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| 03:25.11 | johanbr | WyrM: Could I bother you about something? Do you know the status of bug fixes for the X server on 2nd gen phones? |
| 03:25.39 | johanbr | Is it supposed to be fixed? |
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| 06:19.04 | silenc | sweet I didnt know there was an IRC room for the openezx |
| 06:19.08 | silenc | anyone awake? |
| 07:13.09 | sabrod | Hello |
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| 13:12.26 | WM | hi. |
| 13:12.46 | sabrod | wm Hi |
| 13:15.51 | yang | hi |
| 13:23.33 | WM | sabrod, yang, hi! |
| 13:23.41 | WM | any news? :) |
| 13:25.26 | sabrod | I rtfm of oe..., nothing more impressive :/ |
| 13:26.26 | sabrod | How are you, btw? |
| 13:29.28 | sabrod | Did you test yaffs for a root fs in nand? |
| 13:29.50 | sabrod | On ezx devices? Anyone? |
| 13:36.52 | WM | also thinks that OE is counter-productive some times... but it is still the best tool available. |
| 13:37.06 | WM | sabrod: we cant use nand at all. |
| 13:37.22 | WM | there is no driver for the nand on any ezx phones. didnt you mean nor? |
| 13:37.48 | WM | rootfs on nor, is relativelly easy. |
| 13:38.18 | WM | it is supported by mainline on gen1 devices, without any complications, and on gen2 there is a patch on my people.openezx dir. |
| 13:38.44 | sabrod | Ah, no i thought about a rootfs in place of the original one... |
| 13:39.03 | WM | the original one is on nor. |
| 13:39.10 | WM | in fact there is no NAND on gen2. |
| 13:39.34 | WM | only on e680/a780, there is a m-systems disk on chip. |
| 13:39.38 | sabrod | Ahn didn't know :) |
| 13:41.25 | WM | also, i dont see a big advantage on using nor vs the mmc card. |
| 13:41.51 | sabrod | Yes it perhaps because I just read the "take max. advantage of the e680" ... It new to me... |
| 13:42.32 | sabrod | it's a good modding guide from Abubakar A. Khalid |
| 13:42.46 | WM | link? |
| 13:43.19 | sabrod | But i realize It don't speak about nand ... too, I must be drunk! :( |
| 13:44.23 | sabrod | http://www.mobilelinuxfans.com/doku.php?id=guide_-_maximum_advantage_of_e680i |
| 13:44.42 | WM | reading. |
| 13:44.51 | sabrod | But there is a pdf also on motofans |
| 13:45.01 | sabrod | (it's not new) |
| 13:48.01 | sabrod | Perhaps for the cyph flashkit "howto", you'll keep the link .. But I don't think you will learn a lot... exept it's a well written guide :) |
| 13:48.39 | WM | not really interesting for me ;) |
| 13:48.42 | sabrod | except that |
| 13:49.09 | sabrod | Yeah, far from, but there is no nonsense, IMHO... |
| 13:49.26 | WM | even cyph´s flashkit, its obsolete now, as i can flash any ezx phone using mtd and 2.6 kernel :) |
| 13:49.42 | WM | but i used it in the past. :) |
| 13:49.59 | sabrod | Oh...yeah ! |
| 13:50.55 | sabrod | (ok, it's possible with 2.4 kernel..but : berk! ) |
| 13:51.10 | sabrod | :) |
| 13:52.41 | sabrod | Oh, that would require much tweak, perhaps...for a rootfs...working system? |
| 13:53.00 | WM | what? |
| 13:53.04 | WM | rootfs on nor? |
| 13:53.11 | sabrod | To flash with a 2.4 |
| 13:53.56 | WM | the bigger problem with using 2.4 to flash is that you need a temporary rootfs (if you are going to flash the rootfs itself) |
| 13:54.00 | sabrod | Well, I've no experience of such things |
| 13:54.36 | WM | but its not hard. ahh, another inconvenient of using the original kernel to flash is that motorola locks the nor chip, so it cant be erased. |
| 13:54.59 | WM | but cyph found a way to bypass this locking, hijacking some mtd functions. |
| 13:55.02 | sabrod | Ok, but what we have with 2.6? I think it's temporary as well :) |
| 13:55.19 | WM | regarding mtd? |
| 13:55.47 | WM | no its not temporary, its not openezx nor motorola code. |
| 13:56.04 | WM | its mainline code, considered stable and used on many other platforms. |
| 13:56.39 | sabrod | No, I don't think it's agood idea to speak about 2.4 kernel hacking with you..let's stop...you are too much implicated :) |
| 13:58.25 | WM | 2.4 kernel hacking is a loss of time. :) |
| 13:58.41 | WM | altough, i do a lot of 2.4 kernel hacking myself ;) |
| 13:58.51 | sabrod | I was sure you wanted to go here... |
| 13:58.57 | sabrod | ;) |
| 13:59.35 | WM | not for modding the phone, but 95% of our 2.6 code is based on 2.4. |
| 14:00.04 | sabrod | Hey, you have a good debuging kernel, on people.openezx.org |
| 14:00.19 | WM | 2.4 debugging kernel? |
| 14:00.28 | sabrod | Yes ? |
| 14:00.40 | WM | i have some, dont know if they are on people.openezx. |
| 14:01.00 | WM | i ususally add code to the 2.4 kernel source depending on what i am working on 2.6 |
| 14:01.01 | sabrod | I thought it was... |
| 14:01.16 | WM | so i have some for sound work, another image for pcap, etc... |
| 14:08.00 | sabrod | And you can make them mount a rootfs where you want or you are obligated to use the NOR ? |
| 14:08.30 | sabrod | (note, now I say nor, like if I always knew it was ;)..) |
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| 14:32.20 | sabrod | 03 |
| 14:32.56 | sabrod | .oops |
| 14:52.27 | WM | i can change the cmdline, and try to mount the rootfs from another place. but i never tried it. :) |
| 14:53.36 | sabrod | :) |
| 14:58.37 | sabrod | Where can I found the flash (nor...) infos? |
| 14:58.58 | sabrod | Is there a usefull command? |
| 14:59.31 | WM | cat /proc/mtd |
| 14:59.33 | WM | :) |
| 14:59.55 | sabrod | Ah, i can remember there is intel strataflash, no ? |
| 15:00.03 | sabrod | 32meg, |
| 15:01.18 | sabrod | Well, perhaps 64? motofans must have thouthand of answers I'll search! |
| 15:02.24 | sabrod | I'm just a bad curious guy... :) |
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