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| 04:03.38 | WyrM | http://www.motorola.com.cn/a1800/ |
| 04:04.08 | WyrM | CDMA/GSM version of a1200, with GPS. |
| 04:04.32 | WyrM | the UI is identical to EZX linux. |
| 04:06.25 | WyrM | well... not identical, but very similar :) |
| 04:24.24 | SuN | WyrM: have you heard about the A1600? |
| 04:24.50 | WyrM | SuN: never from Motorola. |
| 04:24.57 | WyrM | SuN: I think it is a hoax. |
| 04:25.11 | SuN | Hm, possibly. |
| 04:25.32 | SuN | However, I think there are FCC docs. |
| 04:26.58 | SuN | http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=936822&native_or_pdf=pdf |
| 04:27.02 | SuN | Same thing? |
| 04:28.39 | SuN | I wonder how much longer Motorola can get away with releasing the same old crappy ugly EZX stuff. |
| 04:29.00 | SuN | It looks completely at halt, with less than minimal progress in the interface. |
| 04:29.53 | SuN | Has been for a year now, because I was asking the same thing a year ago when I got my E6. |
| 04:32.54 | SuN | A1600 looks like a US-only version. |
| 04:32.59 | SuN | 850/1900 |
| 04:33.15 | WyrM | SuN: never seen the fcc docs before. a1600 rumours sound legit now ;) |
| 04:34.08 | WyrM | yet another ezx phone. And Guy Martin was saying on opensource.motorola that ezx was dead. |
| 04:34.39 | SuN | Well, it is, in a way. But Motorola is happily flashing corpses onto these handsets. |
| 04:41.55 | WyrM | SuN: Dont think so. It requires a lot of resources to change the ezx platform to GSM+CDMA. It would probably be easier to do this on the newer magx platform if ezx was really dead. |
| 04:42.52 | WyrM | a1800 is definitely EZX: http://www.motorola.com.cn/pcs/service/manuals/A1800c.zip |
| 04:45.19 | SuN | Well they have quite an investment in OpenEZX, I guess. |
| 04:45.24 | SuN | But from a user |
| 04:45.31 | SuN | 's perspective, it hasn't changed in 3 years. |
| 04:46.51 | SuN | The dual mode + dual sim thing is quite interesting, though. |
| 04:47.13 | WyrM | SuN: Quite an investment on EZX. For OpenEZX not even a phone donation. ;) |
| 04:47.46 | WyrM | but i agree. The UI seems the same as a760. from 2002 or so. |
| 04:48.07 | SuN | If only they'd realize they could propel this platform to great heights with help of the community. |
| 04:52.44 | WyrM | SuN: They are too stupid to realize this. |
| 04:53.17 | WyrM | we even have to remember them about the requirement of releasing the source code when they start selling units.. |
| 04:53.22 | WyrM | https://opensource.motorola.com/sf/discussion/do/listPosts/projects.sitewide/discussion.opensource_feedback.topc1748 |
| 04:53.34 | SuN | Of course E6 source is still nowhere to be found. |
| 04:54.48 | WyrM | SuN: i really believe that they really simply "lost" the source code. |
| 04:54.50 | WyrM | hahahaha |
| 04:55.11 | SuN | Heh it's not impossible. |
| 04:55.22 | SuN | Though E6 has had quite a lot of firmware updates. |
| 04:55.33 | SuN | Plus E6E |
| 04:55.44 | WyrM | I dont think that the E6 source code contains any industrial secret or the like.. I see no reason to hold the source code. |
| 04:56.22 | SuN | Yeah, it shouldn't be any different than A1200, I guess. |
| 04:57.28 | WyrM | SuN: the E6 firmware updates may be updates to anything except the kernel, as only the kernel is missing on opensource.motorola |
| 05:01.35 | SuN | It's... amusing but sad. |
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| 07:52.23 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: ao2 * r2147 /branches/kernel-2.6.25.x-patches/a910-mci.patch: |
| 07:52.23 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: * MMC card insertion/removal is now detected on A910, |
| 07:52.23 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: but the card doesn't get recognized yet. |
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| 11:18.20 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: stefan * r2148 /branches/linux-2.6-arm/ (6 files): |
| 11:18.20 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: You need the pxa branch of the linux-2.6-arm tree now. It has some improvements |
| 11:18.20 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: we can use for our patches and will be merged in the next merge window. |
| 11:18.20 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: 2 small generic patches re-diffeed and submitted upstream. For details see |
| 11:18.20 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: series file. |
| 11:30.26 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: Some status updates for you. |
| 11:31.02 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: I forwarded your mail about email address problems to Harald. Hopefully he has some time to look into it. |
| 11:31.08 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: Can you re. |
| 11:31.19 | stefan_schmidt | re-test the tags on the 2.4 git tree? |
| 11:31.52 | stefan_schmidt | if a git pull does not work please try a complete new clone. It is foxed in my tests |
| 11:32.25 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: You made the regs-lcd-missing-bitfield-include.patch right? |
| 11:33.07 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: Do you mind if I add a signed-off by you to the patch, test if it still fits for 2.6-arm pxa branch and send it out to the arm list? |
| 11:33.20 | stefan_schmidt | If you like to do this I'm also fine with it |
| 11:41.21 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: stefan * r2149 /branches/linux-2.6-arm/ezx-init.patch: Add Wyrm signed-off-by to the init patch |
| 11:42.17 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: stefan * r2150 /branches/linux-2.6-arm/regs-lcd-missing-bitfield-include.patch: Also fix a whitespace issue in this file |
| 11:54.57 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: stefan * r2151 /branches/linux-2.6-arm/ezx-common.patch: Adjust Kconfig for the use in the pxa branch |
| 11:57.17 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: stefan * r2152 /branches/linux-2.6-arm/ezx-common.patch: Add a select IWMMXT to EZX |
| 12:03.50 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: stefan * r2153 /branches/linux-2.6-arm/ezx-common.patch: Include pxa27x-udc.h for the define of UP3OCR |
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| 13:30.24 | ao2 | stefan_schmidt, it's good if Harald can look at the email problem; the git tree now works fine; ok for the signed-off-by-my on the regs-lcd patch, if it is still needed |
| 13:30.57 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: three acks, great. :) |
| 13:35.19 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: stefan * r2154 /branches/linux-2.6-arm/regs-lcd-missing-bitfield-include.patch: Add Antonios signed-off-by and adjust description |
| 13:48.10 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: stefan * r2155 /branches/linux-2.6-arm/ezx-common.patch: |
| 13:48.10 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: Checkin current status of making ezx use the generic PWM stuff. |
| 13:48.10 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: Status is as following: It compiles, it boots, LCD is turn on, but no |
| 13:48.10 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: backlight. You can see the messages scrolling up if you hold the phone right. |
| 13:48.50 | stefan_schmidt | hmm, no ph5 when I have a pxa question. Well I'll try to catch him later. |
| 13:50.10 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 13:50.40 | stefan_schmidt | That means some fun for the evening. :) |
| 13:50.52 | mickeyl | btw. |
| 13:51.15 | mickeyl | what's the latest state on BP reinit? |
| 13:51.24 | mickeyl | can we now do it without flashing blob2 or is that a prerequisite? |
| 13:51.44 | stefan_schmidt | IIRC it did not work yet. But WyrM has done more work on it. Perhaps he got it working. |
| 13:51.53 | mickeyl | eager to do some MUX testings on a1200 |
| 13:52.26 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: Why not use your A780 until blob for a1200 is ready? |
| 13:52.58 | mickeyl | well |
| 13:53.07 | mickeyl | a780 is in use for call handling tests |
| 13:53.13 | stefan_schmidt | ah, ok |
| 13:53.22 | mickeyl | multiparty handling needs a lot of phones |
| 13:53.24 | mickeyl | *sigh* |
| 13:53.27 | stefan_schmidt | heh |
| 13:53.33 | stefan_schmidt | You need a testlab... |
| 13:53.37 | mickeyl | indeed |
| 13:53.45 | mickeyl | it's absolutely insane to do that alone |
| 13:53.47 | mickeyl | call |
| 13:53.48 | mickeyl | hold |
| 13:53.49 | mickeyl | accept |
| 13:53.52 | mickeyl | hold |
| 13:53.53 | mickeyl | conference |
| 13:53.54 | mickeyl | dial |
| 13:53.55 | mickeyl | foo |
| 13:54.26 | mickeyl | and the qtopia phonesim doesn't really cut it |
| 13:54.29 | stefan_schmidt | hmm, so testlab + assistant |
| 13:54.32 | mickeyl | although it's kinda cute |
| 13:54.46 | stefan_schmidt | Some cute blond ones |
| 13:54.50 | mickeyl | heh |
| 13:55.28 | stefan_schmidt | ok, I send out ao2 patch to review and moving home then. later guys. |
| 13:56.30 | mickeyl | cu |
| 14:09.15 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: wyrm * r2156 /branches/linux-2.6-arm/ezx-common.patch: fix indentation |
| 14:18.35 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: stefan * r2157 /branches/linux-2.6-arm/ezx-maintainers.patch: |
| 14:18.35 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: Make ezx_init return void. Shouts a warning and is how it is used in other |
| 14:18.35 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: machine files. Also revert test use of &ezx_init in MACHINE_CONFIG |
| 14:19.03 | stefan_schmidt | ok, that's it. going home now. |
| 14:19.10 | mickeyl | *nod* cu la8er |
| 14:19.29 | WyrM | stefan_schmidt: Hi! And Bye! :) |
| 14:19.45 | stefan_schmidt | ah, hi WyrM |
| 14:19.58 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: thanks for checking in the blob code |
| 14:20.18 | stefan_schmidt | always feels more easy when cod elands in the repos. :) |
| 14:21.10 | stefan_schmidt | Plan for the evening is to waoit for feedback about the bitfield include patch from ao2 I send to ALKML and poking pwm backlight more. |
| 14:22.07 | WyrM | stefan_schmidt: about the backlight on linux2.6-arm does anything prevents us to s/GPIO16_PWM_OUT/GPIO16_PWM_MD/ ?? |
| 14:22.49 | WyrM | my guess is that it is the only thing wrong there. :) |
| 14:23.02 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: The later is in 2xx-gpio.h which is deprecated. The former is in mfp-27x... which seems to be the new place for such things |
| 14:23.25 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: hmm, shouldn't they be identical? |
| 14:23.45 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: You can easily test by including the gpio header file and change it. |
| 14:24.06 | stefan_schmidt | would be surprised if this works but it would be a good surprise. :) |
| 14:24.18 | stefan_schmidt | Anyway, I'm back later |
| 14:24.59 | WyrM | stefan_schmidt: no, i think they are identical.. MFP_CFG_OUT(GPIO16, AF2, DRIVE_LOW) AF2 should be alternate function 2, no difference :/ |
| 14:26.57 | WyrM | will check this as soon as i find some proxy stable enough to git-pull :) |
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| 15:43.14 | makbet | hello |
| 15:43.48 | makbet | many thanks to openezx team for showing all the cool things |
| 15:44.07 | makbet | I've got a question about a moto v8 |
| 15:44.58 | makbet | I've installed the linuxmod flash from rasputin |
| 15:45.11 | makbet | and I can telnet and ftp to my moto |
| 15:45.47 | makbet | I'd like to put some software on it |
| 15:45.58 | makbet | but the linuxmod doesn't have a launcher app |
| 15:47.13 | makbet | I can't seem to find a way to launch the software I copied from within the moto |
| 15:47.26 | makbet | any ideas on how to do it easily? |
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| 16:11.35 | Vhadel780 | makbet: have you heard of ipkg update, when you telnet? |
| 16:12.05 | Vhadel780 | i dont know what linuxmod flash rasputin is, i use ssh with the angstrom withj my y780 |
| 16:12.06 | Vhadel780 | a780 |
| 16:13.21 | Vhadel780 | what is your firmware? do you even boot with openezx? i want to try that mod, do you have a link? |
| 16:13.38 | Vhadel780 | opkg or ipkg seems to be the open way of dating up |
| 16:14.21 | Vhadel780 | makbet: from what i heard, (insoweit) |
| 16:17.45 | makbet | ok, I'll check out ipkg |
| 16:18.40 | makbet | I downloaded and flashed something like this: |
| 16:18.43 | makbet | R601_G_80.44.2DR_56.1BR_Linuxmod3_sidebar_LP0039C.rar |
| 16:19.02 | makbet | I found it on modmymoto forums I think |
| 16:19.34 | makbet | It let me telnet, my original firmware had that disabled |
| 16:23.35 | makbet | what do you mean by booting with openezx? |
| 16:29.47 | Vhadel780 | use a opensource Rom |
| 16:31.42 | Vhadel780 | because that is what the channel is about: i'm not sure if someone here is investigating the closed code of that rasputin; but i'm noob |
| 16:32.39 | makbet | rasputin just moded the original firmware |
| 16:32.47 | Vhadel780 | i think you have the motorola mpkg or mpk files, go for them. and come back when you're a pro developer :-) |
| 16:33.43 | Vhadel780 | yea, there are some nice mods out there. do you have some 3G source code? |
| 16:34.11 | makbet | ok slow down :] |
| 16:35.48 | makbet | what's the best way to go if I want to install my own stuff on the moto? |
| 16:36.01 | Vhadel780 | can you boot and charge with mini usb? |
| 16:36.09 | makbet | is it possible to install a completely open distro? |
| 16:36.24 | makbet | yes, I can charge |
| 16:36.35 | makbet | never tried booting with it |
| 16:37.24 | Vhadel780 | java? well, the open distros are not that.... talkative |
| 16:37.58 | makbet | well, java isn't very interesting :] |
| 16:38.07 | makbet | you have that on every phone |
| 16:38.17 | makbet | I was thinking about native linux apps |
| 16:39.35 | Vhadel780 | then maybe you could investigate about cross-compiling for your ... what was your model again? you could see the project status on wiki.openezx.org |
| 16:39.47 | makbet | v8 |
| 16:39.54 | makbet | sure, cross compiling is not a problem |
| 16:40.20 | makbet | but how do I run the software without telneting to the v8 and running from command line? |
| 16:40.48 | makbet | in other words, how do I add my own things to the menus on the phone? |
| 16:41.09 | Vhadel780 | i think, you should look up motorolafans or such, as i find this channel is more about the Motorola EZX models, and isn't yours MAGX? hee am i alone here? |
| 16:41.48 | Vhadel780 | own things??? or DLed things??? livers? hair shampoo? |
| 16:41.58 | Vhadel780 | i dont know what you mean by "own things" |
| 16:42.17 | makbet | my own apps |
| 16:42.17 | stefan_schmidt | Vhadel780: You are not, but I like to give other people a chance to do support. ;) |
| 16:42.30 | Vhadel780 | where do you want to go today? |
| 16:42.47 | makbet | apps that I download or apps that I write myself, no difference |
| 16:42.56 | stefan_schmidt | makbet: OpenEZX is about kernel support for EZX devices atm |
| 16:42.59 | Vhadel780 | grml..... which format? |
| 16:43.04 | ghane | i will get my E6 tomorrow :) |
| 16:43.14 | stefan_schmidt | makbet: We have support for all kind of EZX devices, but no MAGX yet |
| 16:43.32 | stefan_schmidt | makbet: V8 is MAGX, so we don't have anything useful for you yet. |
| 16:43.34 | ghane | no MAGX _YET_ ;-) |
| 16:43.42 | makbet | stefan_schmidt: ok, I see |
| 16:43.50 | Vhadel780 | ghane: you say that since i am idling here |
| 16:44.00 | ghane | Vhadel780: ? |
| 16:44.03 | stefan_schmidt | makbet: Besides some security flaws in the sha computation of the module loading which could lead to loading a selfcompiled kernel. :) |
| 16:44.11 | ghane | I'm playing with MAGX |
| 16:44.29 | ghane | but as of right now only test apps |
| 16:44.40 | stefan_schmidt | jup, it is getter better with the exploit. |
| 16:44.51 | ghane | it sure does |
| 16:44.51 | Vhadel780 | yes, but can't he, if he really wanted, brick his little bling thing with some zImage? |
| 16:45.08 | Vhadel780 | couldn't |
| 16:45.20 | ghane | brick is simple |
| 16:45.21 | ghane | :) |
| 16:45.28 | stefan_schmidt | Vhadel780: No, the bootloader does not accept zImages without the right signature |
| 16:45.32 | ghane | but that isnt really what we want right |
| 16:45.35 | stefan_schmidt | ghane: Well, not really |
| 16:45.53 | ghane | stefan_schmidt: oh yes, you can just write some random data and brick the phone |
| 16:45.57 | stefan_schmidt | ghane: First you need a way to write to the flash at all. :) |
| 16:45.59 | ghane | stefan_schmidt: jonwil did that |
| 16:46.14 | ghane | stefan_schmidt: or at least send the erae cmds |
| 16:46.15 | stefan_schmidt | ghane: what? how should this work |
| 16:46.15 | ghane | :) |
| 16:46.22 | Vhadel780 | naa zImage i working.... but as he could not phone, it wouldn't make sense. makbet: DL more java |
| 16:46.28 | stefan_schmidt | ghane: But bootloader will stay, right? |
| 16:46.30 | ghane | you can flash but it wont boot |
| 16:46.40 | Vhadel780 | s/i/is |
| 16:46.52 | stefan_schmidt | Vhadel780: You talk about different devices here. |
| 16:46.54 | ghane | i am not sure i think you can overwrite bootloader as well, but then the ROM will signcheck the bootloader |
| 16:47.11 | ghane | so you will effectively brick it |
| 16:47.11 | stefan_schmidt | ghane: I wasn't even able to flash |
| 16:47.52 | stefan_schmidt | ah, let me guess, you guys talking about some strange moto software for flashing, I'm talking about boot_usb |
| 16:47.57 | ghane | stefan_schmidt: i've flashed, check jonwils post to the mailing list a couple of months ago, he has a hacked flash-tools wich can read the complete flash and then you can rebuild the squashfs of the unsigned parts and put it back |
| 16:48.12 | makbet | ok, so how much can you do with the original kernel? Is it possible to swap all the userspace software? |
| 16:48.13 | ghane | no the opensource toolkit, check the mailing list, like february-march |
| 16:48.24 | ghane | two CG's are replaceable |
| 16:48.32 | ghane | i did it with GPL software form linux just to enable |
| 16:48.37 | ghane | telnet |
| 16:48.48 | ghane | or youre not talking about that part? |
| 16:49.04 | Vhadel780 | ah k |
| 16:49.12 | stefan_schmidt | ghane: ok, so you used jonwils software. Still I missed that you can flash anything and it checks while booting |
| 16:49.50 | stefan_schmidt | makbet: If you just like to mod the running software openezx is not the right place. Ask on motorolafans |
| 16:50.37 | makbet | stefan_schmidt: ok, I see |
| 16:50.54 | ghane | stefan_schmidt: two codegroups can be changed, so you can do some mods, i enabled engineering mode and a hack that lets opera exec shellscripts as root (so it enables the telnetd) |
| 16:51.00 | ghane | stefan_schmidt: and then you can telnet to it |
| 16:52.11 | ghane | stefan_schmidt: so i've been running some own apps on mine |
| 16:52.11 | stefan_schmidt | ghane: yeah, that stuff I know. Just wasn't aware that you can flash the signed CGs but fail on boot |
| 16:52.11 | ghane | you really cant flash everything but some parts |
| 16:52.11 | stefan_schmidt | ok, so all is fine. My world is good again |
| 16:52.11 | stefan_schmidt | :) |
| 16:52.11 | ghane | ya think you can flash them as well but it will brick it |
| 16:52.11 | stefan_schmidt | ok |
| 16:53.09 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: About your git pull problem |
| 16:53.48 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: The arm git tree is only available via HTTP which is kinda un-easy for GIT |
| 16:54.46 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: But you can pull another kernel git repo, the one from linus for example, and give this one as local reference for the pull of the arm repo. |
| 16:55.10 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: Then he only fetches the differences. That way it is a lot faster. |
| 16:55.48 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: Something like git pull --reference path/to/other/git http://path/to/arm/git |
| 16:56.01 | stefan_schmidt | s/pull/clone/ |
| 16:56.38 | ghane | stefan_schmidt: I havent tried but i have heard that doing so will result in non-booting phones, and jonwil actually sent erase cmds so he bricked his phone really bad |
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| 16:57.14 | Vhadel780 | now that is what i call support... and no ones supported :D |
| 16:57.37 | stefan_schmidt | ping WM |
| 16:59.11 | ghane | i'm going to brick E6 tomorrow :) |
| 16:59.17 | WM | stefan_schmidt: pong. |
| 16:59.52 | stefan_schmidt | WM: got my stuff about using references in git clone? |
| 17:00.08 | stefan_schmidt | is not sure how the WyrM vs WM thing is related |
| 17:00.26 | WM | WyrM is at my home, im at work now. |
| 17:00.31 | stefan_schmidt | ghane: As long as you leave the bootloader alive everything is fine |
| 17:00.40 | WM | if you sent to WyrM, i will see it when i get home :) |
| 17:00.43 | makbet | so you can't boot your own kernels with the MAGX because they have to be signed? |
| 17:00.58 | makbet | the EZX doesn't check this or did you go around it? |
| 17:01.05 | stefan_schmidt | WM: Ah, ok. Like me to repost it now, or reading when home again? |
| 17:01.18 | stefan_schmidt | makbet: They don't check. |
| 17:01.25 | WM | makbet: ezx doesnt have any signature checking. |
| 17:01.39 | makbet | ok |
| 17:01.56 | WM | stefan_schmidt: if it is not urgent, i will read when i get home, i cant code for OpenEZX @ work anyway. |
| 17:02.47 | stefan_schmidt | WM: ok, it was just something about your git pulling problem. You can read it later. |
| 17:05.42 | Vhadel780 | automagixally |
| 17:07.54 | ghane | i have to work as well |
| 17:07.54 | ghane | later |
| 17:10.55 | WM | stefan_schmidt: a1800 is out! :) |
| 17:11.10 | WM | stefan_schmidt: its selling on .cn already. |
| 17:13.04 | stefan_schmidt | WM: wow, seems I'm really not on top of the news in this area. |
| 17:13.10 | stefan_schmidt | WM: You know a price? |
| 17:13.24 | stefan_schmidt | thinks whom of his friends is flying to .tw next |
| 17:13.33 | SuN | Being in China, too expensive, I'd guess :) |
| 17:13.38 | SuN | Not sure about Taiwan. |
| 17:13.43 | stefan_schmidt | If it is linux and really has wifi + gps I could be tempted |
| 17:13.49 | stefan_schmidt | Could replace my A1200 |
| 17:13.55 | WM | stefan_schmidt: dont know. But is surelly more expensive than a1200 :) |
| 17:14.00 | WM | stefan_schmidt: and no wi-fi |
| 17:14.12 | stefan_schmidt | hmm, expensive is bad. |
| 17:14.12 | WM | stefan_schmidt: its a cdma+gsm phone with gps. |
| 17:14.19 | SuN | WM: how do you search for it? :) |
| 17:14.20 | stefan_schmidt | bummer, no wifi is even worser |
| 17:15.35 | Vhadel780 | does cdma+gsm mean it could run with no SIM? |
| 17:15.35 | stefan_schmidt | ~seen ph5 |
| 17:15.46 | purl | ph5 <n=ph5@e178222028.adsl.alicedsl.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 22h 54m 33s ago, saying: 'evening woglinde'. |
| 17:15.57 | WM | SuN: at first on motorolafans.com, then on google :) |
| 17:16.16 | stefan_schmidt | Vhadel780: It does mean that you can use it in GSM and CDMA networks. All over the world more or less. |
| 17:16.21 | SuN | Ahh ok, guess I'll find the topic on motorolafans :) |
| 17:16.41 | SuN | stefan_schmidt: and at the same time too, according to the manual. |
| 17:16.55 | SuN | It's pretty neat... if only I had a use for that kind of functionality. |
| 17:17.02 | SuN | But I guess it's relevant in China. |
| 17:17.03 | WM | Vhadel780: it is asian CDMA, it uses a sim card too. in fact it is a dual sim phone. |
| 17:17.09 | stefan_schmidt | ~botmail ph5 I have a question about the new pwm stuff used for pxa now. Perhaps you can bring some light into it. Just ping me. |
| 17:17.47 | stefan_schmidt | SuN: Never been at mainland china, but .tw is GSM |
| 17:18.10 | SuN | Mainland China is mixed, I think. |
| 17:18.26 | WM | here in Brasil we have both, cdma (sim-less, like in USA) and GSM. |
| 17:18.26 | SuN | When I was there, I was on GSM but stores had a lot of CDMA phones. |
| 17:18.36 | Vhadel780 | i once had a cdma phone... couldnt use it, it was some sgh-300 or alike |
| 17:19.52 | Vhadel780 | it had no slot |
| 17:19.52 | Vhadel780 | mine was some korean. |
| 17:19.52 | Vhadel780 | i bought it falsely |
| 17:19.52 | Vhadel780 | i ws young |
| 17:20.10 | SuN | http://gizmodo.com/384205/touchscreen-linux-motorola-a810-smartphone-hits-fcc |
| 17:21.11 | SuN | That, IMO, is rather ugly. |
| 17:21.44 | SuN | Meh I was fixing a chair when this came up, I've been on the ground for 15 minutes now, heh. |
| 17:23.24 | SuN | Interesting, see page 84 in the A810 manual. |
| 17:23.38 | SuN | The phones apparently have a LegalNotices.txt onboard.\ |
| 17:24.04 | SuN | Motorola might ignore all other obligations but at least it's some sort of acknowledgement. |
| 17:27.00 | stefan_schmidt | So many new devices. So we need people which have them and do some basic tests to check how our tools work for them. |
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| 18:35.38 | SuN | Ooh |
| 18:35.40 | SuN | http://www.motorola.com/motoinfo/product/details.jsp?globalObjectId=232 |
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| 19:03.04 | ghane | Z6w when will they start selling? |
| 19:03.07 | ghane | me want |
| 19:03.32 | ghane | hope they increased the clockspeed a bit, the Z6 is so slow |
| 19:03.36 | ghane | lol only 532mhz |
| 19:04.08 | stefan_schmidt | thinks they will only sell it over providers with UMA/GAN infrastructure. Like the A910 |
| 19:05.16 | ghane | :( |
| 19:05.35 | stefan_schmidt | We will see. More a feeling then fact |
| 19:05.49 | ghane | i want z6w, was considering getting another z6 if i brick the one i have |
| 19:05.57 | ghane | its a pretty nice piece of hardware |
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| 19:25.56 | stefan_schmidt | just added lots of Z6's, V8's and U9's to his ebay watchlist. :) |
| 19:26.07 | stefan_schmidt | hi pH5 |
| 19:26.15 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: Did you got the botmail? |
| 19:29.09 | pH5 | hi stefan_schmidt, I didn't |
| 19:29.20 | stefan_schmidt | hmm |
| 19:29.25 | stefan_schmidt | ~slap purl |
| 19:29.26 | purl | ACTION slaps purl, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 19:29.50 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: ok, I have a question about using the new pwm stuff on PXA27x |
| 19:29.58 | pH5 | ok, shoot |
| 19:30.14 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: mom, let me get my things sorted |
| 19:30.57 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: I'm working with some patches on top of the 2.6-arm pxa branch |
| 19:31.17 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: Trying to use the new pwm suff for backlight handling |
| 19:31.25 | stefan_schmidt | https://svn.openezx.org/branches/linux-2.6-arm/ezx-common.patch |
| 19:32.17 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: you can see the old backlight power functions with the ifdef araund and my try to use the platform device below it |
| 19:32.59 | pH5 | great, I see |
| 19:33.28 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: Question 1) From where get the value brightness? |
| 19:33.44 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: Nice but not working yet. :) |
| 19:34.12 | stefan_schmidt | 2) How to calculate the pwm_period_ns value? |
| 19:36.03 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: 3) What is needed to enable it? For now I have pxa_gpio_mode(GPIO16_PWM0_OUT); in my init function and I have it in my platform_device struct which I register |
| 19:36.32 | stefan_schmidt | I think that's it. :) |
| 19:36.41 | pH5 | stefan_schmidt: ok :) |
| 19:36.46 | pH5 | 1) I don't understand that question |
| 19:37.07 | stefan_schmidt | heh |
| 19:37.28 | pH5 | 2) look at pwm_config in arch/arm/mach-pxa/pwm.c. the pwm->clk rate is 13MHz, you want to get from period_ns to your 0x3ff value for pv. |
| 19:37.45 | stefan_schmidt | I can find different max_brightness values. Where can I calculate it from for my device? |
| 19:38.37 | stefan_schmidt | Then my value should be ok as it was stolen from another machine also using 0x3ff :) |
| 19:39.05 | pH5 | stefan_schmidt: brightness is your choice, basically. just decide in how many steps would you like to configure |
| 19:39.34 | stefan_schmidt | Ah, cool. Makes sense when using PWM. |
| 19:39.59 | stefan_schmidt | Some answers are getting obvious after you get them from someone else. :) |
| 19:40.01 | pH5 | of course it would make a certain sense to set that value to whatever turns up in pv or something that you can divide it through so that there are no rounding errors |
| 19:40.52 | pH5 | 13000000*78770/1000000000 = 1024 |
| 19:41.00 | stefan_schmidt | That is the reason why you have chosen ~270 for magician |
| 19:41.02 | pH5 | -> prescale = (1024-1)/1024 = 0 |
| 19:41.16 | pH5 | -> pv = 1024 / (0 + 1) - 1 = 1023 (0x3ff) |
| 19:41.24 | pH5 | yup, seems to be the right ns value :) |
| 19:41.48 | pH5 | magician is a bit strange because I have a second "brightness boost" gpio |
| 19:41.57 | pH5 | the wince values set pv to 200, so brightness should be 200 |
| 19:42.38 | stefan_schmidt | hmm, so ns is right, brightness can be chosen and pwm_id should also be right. Why does it not work then. :) |
| 19:42.42 | pH5 | but I can get an additional range of brightness when I turn on the second gpio and lower the duty cycle a bit |
| 19:43.18 | stefan_schmidt | oh, indeed a strange setup |
| 19:43.46 | pH5 | it feels like they added it as an afterthought late during product development |
| 19:43.57 | pH5 | it's just used to extra brighten up the screen when the camera is enabled in wince |
| 19:44.21 | pH5 | do you use the right pwm? |
| 19:44.35 | stefan_schmidt | hmm, I have the platform_pwm_backlight_data and the ezx_backlight_device using it which itself is in the platform_devices which gets added during init |
| 19:45.11 | pH5 | hm, of course you do, the old code worked |
| 19:45.12 | stefan_schmidt | I think so. We had pxa_gpio_mode(GPIO16_PWM0_OUT); before which suggests me PWM0 |
| 19:45.27 | stefan_schmidt | yup, old code worked fine on 2.6.25 |
| 19:45.46 | stefan_schmidt | My problem is that I can't really debug without backlight. :) |
| 19:46.11 | stefan_schmidt | The LCD is on, I can see the messages scrolling with good light conditions |
| 19:46.23 | stefan_schmidt | But I prefer to don't debug this way. :) |
| 19:47.40 | pH5 | stefan_schmidt: I think the pxa_gpio_mode might be wrong |
| 19:48.13 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: hmm, which one should I use instead? |
| 19:48.14 | pH5 | could you try replacing that with the pxa2xx_mfp_config call? |
| 19:48.32 | stefan_schmidt | digs into the header file |
| 19:48.38 | pH5 | because the constants you use here (the new ones, like GPIO42_BTUART_RXD) are for the mfp call, not for pxa_gpio_mode |
| 19:48.43 | stefan_schmidt | you mean pxa27x_mfp_config? |
| 19:48.56 | pH5 | eh yes, sorry |
| 19:49.00 | stefan_schmidt | hmm, ok, worth a try |
| 19:49.49 | pH5 | also you could replace the PWER/PFER/PRER/PGSRx setup with a table fed into pxa27x_mfp_config, but that's a different story |
| 19:50.21 | pH5 | I think that should be it. because pxa_gpio_mode eats the old pxa2xx-gpio.h parameters like GPIO16_PWM0_MD |
| 19:50.36 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: GPIO16_PWM0_OUT is the one from mfp |
| 19:50.49 | stefan_schmidt | I already changed this to the new one. Totally forgotten. |
| 19:51.22 | stefan_schmidt | Or better, it is the only PWM0 I found in the mfp header |
| 19:52.14 | stefan_schmidt | stefan@fairlight:~/Projekte/OpenEZX/kernel-tree/linux-2.6-arm$ grep -ir PWM0 include/asm-arm/arch-pxa/ |
| 19:52.14 | stefan_schmidt | include/asm-arm/arch-pxa/mfp-pxa25x.h:#define GPIO16_PWM0_OUT MFP_CFG_OUT(GPIO16, AF2, DRIVE_LOW) |
| 19:52.14 | stefan_schmidt | include/asm-arm/arch-pxa/mfp-pxa27x.h:#define GPIO16_PWM0_OUT MFP_CFG_OUT(GPIO16, AF2, DRIVE_LOW) |
| 19:52.14 | stefan_schmidt | include/asm-arm/arch-pxa/mfp-pxa300.h:#define GPIO17_PWM0_OUT MFP_CFG(GPIO17, AF1) |
| 19:52.15 | stefan_schmidt | include/asm-arm/arch-pxa/mfp-pxa320.h:#define GPIO11_PWM0_OUT MFP_CFG(GPIO11, AF1) |
| 19:52.19 | stefan_schmidt | include/asm-arm/arch-pxa/pxa2xx-gpio.h:#define GPIO16_PWM0 16 /* PWM0 output */ |
| 19:52.21 | stefan_schmidt | include/asm-arm/arch-pxa/pxa2xx-gpio.h:#define GPIO16_PWM0_MD (16 | GPIO_ALT_FN_2_OUT) |
| 19:52.22 | stefan_schmidt | include/asm-arm/arch-pxa/pxa2xx-regs.h:#define CKEN_PWM0 (0) /* PWM0 Clock Enable */ |
| 19:52.24 | stefan_schmidt | include/asm-arm/arch-pxa/pxa3xx-regs.h:#define CKEN_PWM0 32 /* < PWM[0] clock enable */ |
| 19:52.26 | stefan_schmidt | ups, sorry |
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| 19:53.26 | pH5 | yes. just try to remove all pxa_gpio_mode calls and replace them with as few as possible pxa27x_mfp_config calls. that should be the right thing for upstream. |
| 19:53.34 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: Takle the PWER/PFER/... stuff is the next on my list. After backlight is working again and I can at least debug via printk |
| 19:53.52 | pH5 | :) everybody likes debug printks |
| 19:54.29 | stefan_schmidt | As long as I have no serial console, I love them |
| 19:55.33 | stefan_schmidt | But back to the mfp_config thing. You mean I should replace the pxa_gpio_mode function with it? Not only chnaging to the new defines from the new header? |
| 19:56.01 | stefan_schmidt | is a bit slow due to much sun today |
| 19:56.53 | pH5 | exactly. |
| 19:57.04 | pH5 | so do this: |
| 19:57.14 | pH5 | unsigned long my_pin_cfg[] = { |
| 19:57.22 | pH5 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.33 | pH5 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.42 | pH5 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.43 | pH5 | }; |
| 19:58.08 | pH5 | and then pxa27x_mfp_config(ARRAY_AND_SIZE(my_pin_cfg)); instead of all the pxa_gpio_mode calls |
| 19:59.44 | stefan_schmidt | Will do. |
| 19:59.54 | stefan_schmidt | I'll come back to you after testing it. |
| 20:01.55 | pH5 | keeps fingers crossed |
| 20:03.06 | stefan_schmidt | keeps them crossed while compiling |
| 20:04.00 | pH5 | as long as you don't keep them crossed while writing the code.. |
| 20:04.54 | stefan_schmidt | No luck |
| 20:05.03 | pH5 | :( |
| 20:05.06 | stefan_schmidt | Compiles fine, but does not work |
| 20:05.45 | stefan_schmidt | hmm, strange. The setup seems to be quite common |
| 20:08.21 | pH5 | does it work if you put the old BL code back in but keep the mfp_config? |
| 20:09.22 | stefan_schmidt | pxa_set_cken() is gone |
| 20:10.06 | pH5 | ah, right. |
| 20:11.47 | pH5 | stefan_schmidt: next idea: I think you have to select HAVE_PWM in Kconfig for PXA_EZX |
| 20:12.16 | pH5 | all boards that use pwm backlight select that config option |
| 20:12.43 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: bummer, I thought about that while driving home. |
| 20:12.46 | stefan_schmidt | Trying now |
| 20:16.03 | stefan_schmidt | YAY |
| 20:16.18 | stefan_schmidt | The only problem was that the pwm_bl was not enabled at all |
| 20:16.19 | stefan_schmidt | duh |
| 20:16.25 | pH5 | ahh :) |
| 20:16.35 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: Thanks for this nice debugging session. :) |
| 20:16.41 | pH5 | gerne |
| 20:17.17 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: Do you have some more time to talk about replacing the PWER stuff? |
| 20:17.36 | pH5 | sure. |
| 20:17.44 | pH5 | <-- looking forward to see openezx in mainline |
| 20:18.08 | stefan_schmidt | me too, me too |
| 20:18.17 | stefan_schmidt | It's time |
| 20:18.33 | pH5 | I still have to figure that part out, though |
| 20:19.05 | pH5 | basically you just have to or WAKEUP_ON_EDGE_RISE/FALL/BOTH onto the GPIO definitions in your mfp_config list |
| 20:19.07 | stefan_schmidt | As you can see I'm working on it. Some small patches are already in the patch system. Just one or two more burdens and I submit this basic stuff for review |
| 20:19.38 | stefan_schmidt | Any good example? Some machine file? |
| 20:20.01 | pH5 | right now, tosa is the best. dmitry is doing good work. |
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| 20:21.17 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: OK, I'll take a look. But first I cleanup my mess here and commit my changes. |
| 20:21.51 | stefan_schmidt | I'm really seeing the light at the end of the tunnel for the first patchset now. :) |
| 20:21.59 | pH5 | aye, commit early and commit often. git-rebase -i is our friend. |
| 20:22.06 | stefan_schmidt | One review round before the merge window would be great |
| 20:22.21 | stefan_schmidt | For now I still use quilt and svn |
| 20:22.48 | stefan_schmidt | Was thinking a lot about git in the last two weeks, but that is another story. :) |
| 20:22.54 | pH5 | nothing wrong with that |
| 20:23.04 | pH5 | learning new tools takes time too |
| 20:23.28 | stefan_schmidt | It's mostly because stgit can not be used together like a patchstack we have qith quilt |
| 20:24.11 | stefan_schmidt | I'm using git on a lot other projects and migrating all my private stuff to it, still I see some problems for the openezx use case. |
| 20:24.29 | stefan_schmidt | I'd love to use it here. Perhaps I find a good way later. :) |
| 20:28.07 | pH5 | stefan_schmidt: one way is to drastically reduce the patch stack by pushing upstream as much as possible :) |
| 20:29.06 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: That's the plan. Once we just have a small patchstack I can live with rebase -i easily |
| 20:29.30 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: stefan * r2158 /branches/linux-2.6-arm/ (ezx-common.patch series): |
| 20:29.30 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: PWM backlight is working now. Just make sure you have the driver built-in if you |
| 20:29.31 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: like to use it. duh. select HAVE_PWM is your friend. |
| 20:29.31 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: Thanks to Philipp Zabel for the debugging session. |
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| 20:32.02 | stefan_schmidt | hmm, something is fishy here |
| 20:33.13 | stefan_schmidt | ah, the "strength" of quilt. Having some hunks in the wrong patch because you were not on the right patch while hacking. |
| 20:33.24 | stefan_schmidt | sigh, all techniques seems to have problems. |
| 20:33.48 | pH5 | urgh. but such things already happened to me with git, too. (squashing a patch onto the wrong one while rebasing) |
| 20:34.03 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: stefan * r2159 /branches/linux-2.6-arm/ezx-maintainers.patch: This hunk is wrong here. |
| 20:35.50 | stefan_schmidt | yeah, could happen there, too. |
| 20:36.06 | stefan_schmidt | So, no local changes and a working kernel with backlight. |
| 20:36.16 | stefan_schmidt | This give me time for a shower. :) |
| 21:14.11 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: stefan * r2160 /branches/linux-2.6-arm/ezx-common.patch: |
| 21:14.11 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: Allow 1024 different brightness levels. Perhaps we should lower this value |
| 21:14.11 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: again, but it is for sure better then only on or off. |
| 21:26.16 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: stefan * r2161 /branches/linux-2.6-arm/ezx-common.patch: |
| 21:26.16 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: Remove write to the LCCR0 register. pxafb does not allow this anymore and it |
| 21:26.16 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: should not be needed at all. |
| 21:27.42 | CIA-25 | OpenEZX: stefan * r2162 /branches/linux-2.6-arm/ezx-common.patch: Just cosmetic. Fix indentation. |
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