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| 06:34.11 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 06:34.52 | flo_lap | hi Hopscotch |
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| 08:28.04 | p3t3r | it´s not that i want to spam around, but i found a motorola a732 ad, maybe it´s interesting (can´t hear sound right here..): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUBITQdNZC4 |
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| 08:49.27 | p3t3r | stefan_schmidt: shipped the A910 yesterday |
| 08:50.38 | stefan_schmidt | p3t3r: Great. Thanks. |
| 08:51.08 | p3t3r | cu |
| 08:51.44 | ao2 | p3t3r, http://wiki.openezx.org/A732 it looks like it's not a linux phone |
| 08:51.55 | p3t3r | ok. |
| 08:53.01 | mickeyl | arghs |
| 08:53.05 | mickeyl | someone posted schematics |
| 08:53.06 | mickeyl | *sigh* |
| 08:53.12 | mickeyl | that's not good |
| 08:53.26 | p3t3r | menu doesn´t look like A910, E2... |
| 08:56.59 | p3t3r | (but the fishy screen is funny.. that was way before iPhone, wasn´t it?) |
| 08:58.38 | flo_lap | mickeyl: ezx schematics? |
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| 09:00.44 | mickeyl | flo_lap: ya, for the rokr |
| 09:01.14 | flo_lap | mickeyl: uh |
| 09:01.33 | mickeyl | we should remove this post from the archives |
| 09:01.38 | mickeyl | we don't want to become compromised |
| 09:01.43 | flo_lap | mickeyl: the v8 schematics seems to be available from some forum too |
| 09:01.46 | mickeyl | who has admin privileges? |
| 09:02.15 | flo_lap | right, that should not stay in the archives |
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| 14:14.47 | BadCluster | Hi! guys .. I can boot the stefan's core-only (.23) images on a a1200i and a e2 but I was unable to boot the ezx11 ( e2 and a1200 ) images .. are those images working ? |
| 14:19.58 | ao2 | hi BadCluster AFAIR ezx11 images were tested only on a780 ad e680, so use the latest code for other phones. Well, use latest code for ANY phone I should say :) |
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| 14:25.19 | BadCluster | Ok, thanks , I'll make more test when I finish my "ezx compilation environment". |
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| 14:44.20 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|lunch: Harald takes care about deleting the schematics from the list archiv. |
| 14:44.37 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|lunch: Already requested it from him yetserday. :) |
| 14:45.34 | stefan_schmidt | Good news: The A910 from Peter arrived today. |
| 14:45.50 | florian_ | hi stefan_schmidt |
| 14:46.26 | mickey|lunch | stefan_schmidt: danke |
| 14:46.39 | mickey|lunch | stefan_schmidt: you could tell him to add alphaone to the planet next time |
| 14:46.44 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|lunch: np, I don't like to get compromised either |
| 14:46.46 | stefan_schmidt | hi florian_ |
| 14:46.57 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|lunch: heh, yeah, I should |
| 14:47.04 | stefan_schmidt | florian_: how are you= |
| 14:47.05 | stefan_schmidt | ? |
| 14:48.27 | florian_ | stefan_schmidt: pretty fine, i enjoy the good food in .cn and hope for free time to hack on two new devices |
| 14:48.56 | stefan_schmidt | florian_: heh, food is indeed nice. Even if I only tested the .tw one |
| 14:49.10 | stefan_schmidt | florian_: You still play with your EZX devices from time to time? |
| 14:49.37 | florian_ | stefan_schmidt: a little bit, but time is quite limited |
| 14:49.46 | stefan_schmidt | Great, Harald will review some ezx stuff and work on pcap driver. woot. Good news day today. :) |
| 14:49.56 | stefan_schmidt | florian_: Shame on you. ;) |
| 14:50.25 | koen | has anyone played with images from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/autobuild/a780/ lately? |
| 14:51.04 | florian_ | stefan_schmidt: I have a V8 now too and a shiny new GSM modem eval board |
| 14:51.10 | stefan_schmidt | koen: Not really. Only kernel in the little time a spent on ezx atm. |
| 14:51.34 | stefan_schmidt | florian_: alphaone has an V8, too. You read his mail about it? |
| 14:52.53 | florian_ | stefan_schmidt: yeah, that seems to be even more tough than the a1200. |
| 14:54.18 | koen | stefan_schmidt: could you advertise that url on the openezx website so people stop using that debian rootfs from 2006? |
| 14:54.19 | stefan_schmidt | florian_: yeah |
| 14:54.37 | florian_ | stefan_schmidt: but it would be such a great device for development - its not too expensive, the kernel is not that crappy and the most important: available almost everywhere |
| 14:54.42 | stefan_schmidt | koen: heh, will do |
| 14:55.03 | stefan_schmidt | florian_: Yeah, but moto don't like to play with us. |
| 14:55.15 | stefan_schmidt | koen: In the evening. |
| 14:55.57 | mickey|lunch | stefan_schmidt: isn't it a great day? :D |
| 14:56.02 | mickey|lunch | all that good news |
| 14:56.06 | mickey|lunch | *g* |
| 14:56.41 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|lunch: heh, I think I found my way to handle unnice things in the mean time. Thanks. :) |
| 14:57.25 | mickey|lunch | good :) |
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| 14:59.05 | florian_ | stefan_schmidt: yeah... unluckily. I was contacted by some Motorola guy two times (after I ignored him the first time). He promised to work on improving the situation but as I know these companies I do not see much of hope. |
| 15:00.02 | stefan_schmidt | florian_: Intersting. Seems they stop to contacting me after my bashing. :) |
| 15:01.07 | florian_ | stefan_schmidt: ignore them for a while ;) |
| 15:01.28 | stefan_schmidt | florian_: heh |
| 15:03.00 | stefan_schmidt | Anyway, I need a rest. 5,5 hours of painting a room. Will be back in the evening. |
| 15:04.49 | florian_ | stefan_schmidt: heh, yes I know pretty good... had to do the same lately. enjoy :) |
| 15:16.10 | florian_ | Did anyone try to sue Cellon for the C8000 platforms or Philips for the 968 GPL violations? |
| 15:18.10 | koen | only 968 violations? |
| 15:18.22 | koen | can't somebody try to find 32 more? |
| 15:19.19 | florian_ | hehe |
| 15:19.49 | florian_ | purl: search google for philips 968 linux |
| 15:19.59 | LuitvD | hi there |
| 15:21.01 | florian_ | hi LuitvD |
| 15:21.19 | LuitvD | hi florian_ :) that's a nice phone, that philips |
| 15:22.31 | florian_ | LuitvD: its... colourful! |
| 15:22.53 | florian_ | LuitvD: du you have a debug cable? :) |
| 15:23.07 | LuitvD | florian_: for that philips? or for my own phone? |
| 15:23.32 | florian_ | LuitvD: for that philips... |
| 15:24.06 | LuitvD | florian_: I'm quite sure that I don't have that :) |
| 15:25.09 | florian_ | LuitvD: without that the device is really boring |
| 15:27.55 | LuitvD | florian_: why? |
| 15:29.04 | florian_ | LuitvD: No connectivity except of GSM and USB, crappy software and a bad case. |
| 15:30.26 | LuitvD | florian_: all that except for the case applies to the ROKR too... |
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| 15:36.26 | LuitvD | whoops, which dumbass designed the XChat menus :P |
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| 15:37.06 | LuitvD | ... that wasn't right... |
| 15:37.29 | LuitvD | I guess I insulted XChat ... it crashed |
| 15:38.42 | florian_ | heh |
| 15:39.44 | LuitvD | (the rejoin before that was because of my disability to aim, which made me hit the "Reconnect" item, right above the "Join Channel" item |
| 15:47.13 | ao2 | LuitvD, "/j channelname" :) real men used IRSSI or BitchX before knowing Xchat :P |
| 15:47.47 | LuitvD | ao2: thank you, captain obvious :) |
| 15:48.03 | LuitvD | ao2: can IRSSI use libnotify by the way? |
| 15:48.17 | ao2 | I bet it can in some way.... |
| 15:50.04 | ao2 | wow I didn't know Captain Obvious |
| 15:55.58 | LuitvD | ao2: you didn't? |
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| 17:28.31 | LuitvD | the dutch government is going the right way lately :) they want open-source software and standards :D |
| 17:56.42 | LuitvD | AND! it looks like I'm finally going to get my money back from my OEM Vista license :) |
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| 20:33.25 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: http://www.openezx.org/index.html |
| 20:33.42 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: Got your A910 today. :) |
| 20:35.41 | ao2 | :) |
| 20:36.18 | LuitvD | oh my, that's nice |
| 20:39.34 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: The outer display shows nothing at all, but everything else is fine. It's one of the second gen phones. Red bootloader. |
| 20:39.54 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: No touchscreen, therefor the same userinterface as E2 |
| 20:40.06 | LuitvD | so, if I'm going to take a look inside my phone, what should I look for, except for a debug connector? |
| 20:40.11 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: Makes sense as the E2 has a TS either. |
| 20:40.31 | alphaone | LuitvD: Got a camera? |
| 20:40.40 | stefan_schmidt | LuitvD: Best would be high relsolution pictures of all aprts |
| 20:40.40 | LuitvD | alphaone: sure |
| 20:40.45 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: :) |
| 20:40.54 | LuitvD | I'll ofcourse take pictures of PCB and connections |
| 20:41.08 | LuitvD | maybe even on millimeter grid paper |
| 20:41.10 | stefan_schmidt | LuitvD: If possible pictures were you can read text on chips, etc.. |
| 20:41.21 | ao2 | good, so I will see one of those 2nd gen. I think I will give try to qtopia on it |
| 20:41.25 | LuitvD | stefan_schmidt: Allright |
| 20:41.31 | stefan_schmidt | LuitvD: That would be all we can ask for. :) |
| 20:41.45 | stefan_schmidt | LuitvD: Atleast until you like to solder on it... ;) |
| 20:42.06 | alphaone | LuitvD: Some of the shielding is removable (without soldering) |
| 20:42.08 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: ok |
| 20:42.38 | alphaone | And I recommend against desoldering the shielding if you want to keep using your phone :-) |
| 20:43.10 | LuitvD | alphaone: thanks, but I'm aware of that :) |
| 20:43.23 | alphaone | LuitvD: Great :-) |
| 20:44.00 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: Like to desolder your V8 :) |
| 20:44.16 | alphaone | stefan_schmidt: I'm sure you would :-) |
| 20:44.34 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: heh, it's just a phone. You have tons of them. |
| 20:44.49 | LuitvD | I only have 2 ATM :P |
| 20:44.53 | LuitvD | I want another one |
| 20:44.55 | LuitvD | another nice one |
| 20:45.00 | LuitvD | XD |
| 20:45.10 | stefan_schmidt | heh |
| 20:45.20 | LuitvD | (my alternative phone is a Siemens M35i) |
| 20:45.24 | LuitvD | (how sad is that) |
| 20:45.34 | alphaone | Hmm, flathead works |
| 20:45.36 | alphaone | Thanks |
| 20:45.39 | alphaone | brb :-) |
| 20:45.49 | ao2 | brrr... |
| 20:45.51 | LuitvD | lol |
| 20:48.21 | alphaone | Okay, tomorrow I'll have pictures of the razr2 interior |
| 20:48.39 | alphaone | And maybe I'll have to use my A1200 as my main phone again |
| 20:48.46 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: :) |
| 20:53.18 | alphaone | Seems I'm setting a good example :-) |
| 20:58.18 | alphaone | Damn.. |
| 20:58.55 | alphaone | I bent a part of the back almost into oblivion just to find that I (almost) missed two screws |
| 21:26.26 | alphaone | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.38 | LuitvD | alphaone: same here |
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| 22:04.14 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: The torx was smaller then the one from GTA, right? |
| 22:04.40 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: I only have T6-T10 here. Normally phones have T6 IIRC |
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| 22:08.57 | alphaone | stefan_schmidt: yeah |
| 22:09.00 | alphaone | damn |
| 22:09.07 | alphaone | thanks anyways |
| 22:09.20 | alphaone | Im frustrated enough to solder off the shielding... |
| 22:09.25 | alphaone | no singn of jtag |
| 22:09.37 | alphaone | and the pcb is tiny! |
| 22:09.47 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: wow, no solder yet please. |
| 22:10.02 | alphaone | too late |
| 22:10.05 | LuitvD | XD |
| 22:10.11 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: heh |
| 22:10.20 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: At least I hope you are joking |
| 22:10.28 | alphaone | you wish |
| 22:10.59 | alphaone | two more shields to go |
| 22:11.04 | LuitvD | lol |
| 22:13.00 | stefan_schmidt | A910 codename is martinique |
| 22:16.34 | stefan_schmidt | ok, A910 booted |
| 22:16.39 | alphaone | https://totalueberwachung.de/~alphaone/openezx/gallery/ |
| 22:16.41 | stefan_schmidt | Nice green text. :) |
| 22:16.56 | alphaone | that's still with the shielding |
| 22:17.12 | alphaone | And yes. It seems that little pcb there is all there is... |
| 22:17.23 | alphaone | OpenMoko has a long way ahead |
| 22:18.07 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: Oh dear. 5 years until we will get there. :) |
| 22:18.21 | LuitvD | alphaone: it's more PCB then the iPhone has... |
| 22:18.55 | LuitvD | even though the iPhone actually has 3 pieces stacked up on top of eachother |
| 22:19.29 | LuitvD | I can recognize the bluetooth part there :P |
| 22:38.11 | alphaone | LuitvD: There probably is something in the flip part of the phone |
| 22:38.30 | alphaone | But for these screws I need torx |
| 22:39.56 | LuitvD | I need torx too, tomorrow |
| 22:40.16 | LuitvD | couldn't find a fitting flathead, so I tried to grind one down to the right size |
| 22:40.22 | LuitvD | but I failed :) |
| 22:41.06 | alphaone | hehe |
| 22:45.48 | LuitvD | we had a torx kit here somewhere... but it has disappeared |
| 22:46.13 | alphaone | update |
| 22:46.24 | alphaone | stefan_schmidt: Find out if I was joking or not |
| 22:46.31 | LuitvD | wow, nice :) |
| 22:47.20 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: heh, you are crazy hommie |
| 22:47.40 | LuitvD | alphaone: did you use litze or a solder sucker? |
| 22:47.47 | alphaone | stefan_schmidt: And the last one shows it's still working |
| 22:48.15 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: :) |
| 22:48.20 | alphaone | LuitvD: More a solder iron and a little force to separate the shielding |
| 22:48.42 | LuitvD | alphaone: I realised that when I saw the final picture of the shields... |
| 22:48.44 | LuitvD | XD |
| 22:49.58 | LuitvD | alphaone: on IMG 2956, what's that ? |
| 22:51.39 | alphaone | LuitvD: https://totalueberwachung.de/~alphaone/openezx/gallery/IMG_2958_Or.jpg.5.html |
| 22:51.48 | alphaone | Broadcom |
| 22:51.58 | alphaone | Baseband? |
| 22:52.24 | LuitvD | on a seperate peice of PCB |
| 22:52.38 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: I think broadcom is the Bluetooth chip |
| 22:52.55 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: They used one on all EZX phones |
| 22:53.04 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: Of course they could have switched. |
| 22:53.06 | alphaone | http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu5BBZmBHknMAo6ZXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE5MjRhMWNoBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA0Y5NDVfMTE0BGwDV1Mx/SIG=13io5k6rv/EXP=1197586369/**http%3a//www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM2045 |
| 22:53.08 | alphaone | jup |
| 22:53.17 | alphaone | it is |
| 22:53.21 | stefan_schmidt | ok |
| 22:53.58 | LuitvD | hmm, maybe I should do the same to my laptop, may make supporting my BT module a bit easier :P |
| 22:54.28 | LuitvD | alphaone: damn, you really should have used some Litze |
| 22:55.14 | alphaone | LuitvD: Yeah, that's the next thing on my electronics to-buy list |
| 22:55.26 | LuitvD | alphaone: =) |
| 23:08.16 | LuitvD | I'm going to sleep |
