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| 01:33.01 | jonwil | I hear new RAZR prevents us using selfbuilt kernel on it :( |
| 01:37.53 | SuN | For now! |
| 01:40.46 | jonwil | does this apply to ROKR Z6 also? |
| 01:44.10 | stefan_schmidt | jonwil: Not tested, but I'm pretty sure about this. Same architecture. |
| 01:45.11 | jonwil | I may be getting a new Z6 to replace my L6 |
| 01:45.21 | jonwil | and want to do cool stuff with it |
| 01:45.52 | jonwil | are there things I can do to ezx phone without rendering it useless for phonecalls? |
| 01:46.03 | jonwil | i.e. keep it as a working phone |
| 01:49.33 | jonwil | from some of the stuff I read online though it looks like Moto is trying to lock down EZX phone in the same way as Apple lock down iphone :( |
| 01:50.51 | jonwil | if the FIC NEO phone wasnt so expensive (and was usable as a regular everyday phone for calls, phonebook, browser etc etc) then I would consider that |
| 01:51.23 | stefan_schmidt | jonwil: IIRC one or more of the CGs are not signed. People already enabled the, already installed, telnet server and were able to connect as root. |
| 01:52.03 | jonwil | There is no gaurantee that moto wont close that hole in the next phone |
| 01:52.08 | jonwil | or next firmware for this one |
| 01:52.19 | stefan_schmidt | jonwil: Of course not |
| 01:52.30 | stefan_schmidt | jonwil: Just the actual status |
| 01:52.37 | jonwil | ok |
| 01:52.52 | SuN | Obviously not, but this round is ours, I guess. |
| 01:53.25 | stefan_schmidt | SuN: For some mods in the firmware yes, for selfbuild kernel no |
| 01:53.57 | stefan_schmidt | jonwil: Right |
| 01:54.24 | stefan_schmidt | Oh, already 3am. I need to go sleep. Night all. |
| 01:54.35 | SuN | G'night |
| 01:54.37 | jonwil | Its like the fact that I can only get maybe ONE phone from ANY carrier that has GPS navigation in it |
| 01:54.58 | jonwil | And thats the Nokia N95 |
| 01:55.06 | SuN | Well, the situation is somewhat different here. I can get any phone and use it on any carrier. |
| 01:55.10 | jonwil | I can too |
| 01:55.13 | SuN | But it would cost a fortune. |
| 01:55.14 | jonwil | here in australia |
| 01:55.21 | jonwil | but it would cost me a fortune too |
| 01:55.36 | jonwil | but even if I wanted to, I cant GET the phone with ALL the features I want on it |
| 01:55.47 | jonwil | it doesnt exist |
| 01:56.06 | SuN | Well, I've grown used to that. Technology development is slower than I'd wish :) |
| 01:57.13 | jonwil | The phone I would buy would be a Z6 with GPS and ability to run my own native games and apps. |
| 01:57.25 | jonwil | That or a candybar form factor of the same thing |
| 01:57.40 | jonwil | but moto wont sell me a phone with GPS at all |
| 01:57.42 | jonwil | :( |
| 01:57.55 | SuN | Mine would be an E6 with wifi and a more reasonable interface. |
| 01:58.20 | SuN | Looking forward to the Samsung F700 though. |
| 01:58.26 | SuN | And LG is doing nice stuff as well. |
| 01:58.47 | jonwil | WiFi is not something I need since I dont go places where I can use wifi |
| 01:59.18 | SuN | Wifi is not a hard prereq, but I would like it. |
| 01:59.25 | SuN | But mainly as a replacement for USB :) |
| 01:59.52 | SuN | Oh and 3G |
| 01:59.58 | SuN | Getting tired of GPRS latency. |
| 02:00.24 | jonwil | Both 3G carriers in .au are rip-offs |
| 02:00.57 | SuN | I have EUR 10/month flatrate internet, it's limited to 128Kbit but I'm pretty sure it would benefit from 3G since it's capped at the landline. |
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| 10:06.27 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 14:53.57 | ao2 | hi koen |
| 14:54.18 | ao2 | koen maybe you can close this: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2568 |
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| 18:06.54 | LuitvD | hi all |
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| 22:43.19 | LuitvD | oh my, ROKR E6 schematics :D |
| 22:43.25 | LuitvD | would that be useful? |
| 22:43.35 | LuitvD | for PCAP3 for example? |
| 22:49.15 | alphaone | LuitvD: First of all it would be in the darker shades of grey to look at them... |
| 22:49.57 | LuitvD | alphaone: err... my english fails me here... what exactly do you mean? |
| 22:50.47 | alphaone | LuitvD: White being legal without a doubt and black being something as ruthless and filthy as pirating a game/music/movie |
| 22:51.03 | LuitvD | aha |
| 22:51.05 | LuitvD | right :P |
| 22:52.07 | LuitvD | yeah.... oh well... is it worth it? |
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| 22:52.08 | alphaone | LuitvD: If you use this schematic to write code for openezx then Motorola can probably attack/sue/whatever us. |
| 22:58.26 | LuitvD | let's wait for a wise decision :) |