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08:19.46slapinhi, all!
08:19.47slapinanybody seen drWyrM lately?
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09:08.15floriangood morning
09:08.28LuitvDmornin
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14:52.41slapindrWyrM, hi!
14:53.30slapindrWyrM, as for mail - won't Motorola's lawyers be unhappy with that? I don't want to affect whole project with these...
14:53.32LuitvDhello everyone :)
14:54.18drWyrMhi slapin;
14:54.31drWyrMwell, stefan discussed this here before.
14:55.06drWyrMi think its moto problem if they released files as GPL without some other authorization.
14:55.48drWyrMthey released as GPL, we got it as GPL, we released modifications as GPL . period.
14:55.56slapindrWyrM, hope so
14:56.35stefan_schmidthttps://opensource.motorola.com/sf/discussion/do/listPosts/projects.a780e680/discussion.general_comments.topc1353?_message=1179758511653
14:56.37stefan_schmidtLast item
14:56.51stefan_schmidtI'm to lazy to discuss this again, sorry.
14:57.32drWyrManyway, releasing the camera drivers with any a license other than GPL is illegal in my conception. So its always moto mistake. :)
14:58.26LuitvDisn't LGPL legal then?
14:58.56LuitvD(LGPL still doesn't allow you not to free the sources of that driver...)
14:59.08LuitvDyeah, it's moto's mistake XD
15:01.24slapinstefan_schmidt, so question is still open, as I see, but I'll try to bo on safe side and get drivers from that particular kernel and patch ontop of it. Thanks!
15:01.25stefan_schmidtslapin: The question is *not* open
15:02.29jonwilthe simple fact is Motorola released the camera drivers in a910 kernel source with GPL header
15:02.29drWyrMit may be open internally on moto. For us its closed.
15:02.29stefan_schmidtslapin: I just *informed* them about the status. The driver in A910 have a GPL header. period.
15:02.29ade|deski think we can move forward, we have been open and covered our backs if lawyers do get involved
15:02.29ade|deskplay on!
15:02.30slapinstefan_schmidt, do you mind to update drivers on home page then?
15:02.43stefan_schmidtslapin: Which drivers and which homepage?
15:03.34jonwilso which moto phones are you guys actually hacking at this point? Just a780 and e680 or are other phones being hacked now too?
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15:03.49slapinstefan_schmidt, ah, I see, site was updated since then.
15:04.10stefan_schmidtjonwil: 2.6.21 booted on E2 and E6
15:04.11LuitvDjonwil: the ROKR E6 (E690) is being looked at right now
15:04.16drWyrMjonwil: pmarques is hacking e6. We are needing other hackers for other phones.
15:04.20LuitvDXD
15:04.29jonwilis a1200 being looked at?
15:04.29drWyrMeverebody replied hehehe :)
15:04.36slapinstefan_schmidt, ok, then I will update my version and publish it somewhere.
15:04.38stefan_schmidtslapin: Sorry, I still don't get which site you mean.
15:04.52slapinstefan_schmidt, openezx.org
15:04.54LuitvDjonwil: wiki ;)
15:05.09stefan_schmidtjonwil: Nobody who is hacking right now has one.
15:05.10LuitvDhttp://wiki.openezx.org/A1200
15:05.40drWyrMjonwil: if you intend to start working on a1200 i can support you if you wish.
15:05.44stefan_schmidtslapin: OK, so you mean a camera driver for a780 in the EZX patchset?
15:05.54jonwilno
15:05.56slapinstefan_schmidt, yeah
15:06.00jonwilI dont intend to work on a1200
15:06.12slapinstefan_schmidt, plus PXA part.
15:06.19LuitvDhmm, still concider buying one... I still can't choose between A1200 and E6
15:06.33stefan_schmidtslapin: Ah, drWyrM will work on it though. But you already coordinate yourself, right?
15:06.36slapinstefan_schmidt, I mostly interested in ov9640 though
15:07.01slapinstefan_schmidt, I hope so :)
15:07.06drWyrMslapin: the pxa part is released by intel also, so no problems at all..
15:07.08stefan_schmidtslapin: I'm not hacking on EZX right now. Not enough time.
15:07.09agd5fJust got an e6 last night
15:07.15LuitvDnice
15:07.21stefan_schmidtagd5f: Congrats
15:07.31agd5fyeah.  It's really nice
15:07.36slapindrWyrM, well, it is not fully functional (intel one)
15:07.56agd5fnot sure when I'll have time to hack on it though
15:07.56stefan_schmidtagd5f: btw, I had no time for testing randr branch of radeon and I fear I will not have time this week, too. :(
15:08.20drWyrMslapin: the current camera support on openezx is on .16 only, and is just a quick port to compile/work(?) on 2.6 it uses the same code as the 2.4 version
15:08.21LuitvDagd5f: if you want to run a vanilla kernel on it, talk to pmarques when he's here... I bet he can walk you through it...
15:08.37agd5fstefan_schmidt: :) no worries.
15:08.52slapindrWyrM, I have 'quick port'
15:08.53agd5fLuitvD: will do
15:09.08slapindrWyrM, did not tested it properly though
15:09.21jonwilbtw guys, I dont think Z3 listed on wiki runs linux
15:09.22drWyrMslapin: for .21 i want something cleaner/acceptable (i am waiting the first relase from YOU) to start this. :)
15:09.28slapindrWyrM, been waiting for legal solution
15:09.31LuitvDagd5f: he did this to his phone: http://people.openezx.org/pmarques/pictures/rokr_e6_booting.jpg
15:09.46agd5fLuitvD: yeah, I saw that.  good stuff
15:09.55slapindrWyrM, I'd work on PXA layer fist.
15:10.10jonwilall stuff I have seen for z3 suggests its not linux
15:10.16jonwilshould I update wiki?
15:10.21stefan_schmidtjonwil: If you are sure, remove it and add a notice
15:11.04jonwilI am not 100% positive
15:11.24jonwilbut I dont believe z3 runs linux (having seen the firmware info on a test unit)
15:11.35stefan_schmidtjonwil: At least I have seen nobody talking that he knows it runs linux. :)
15:11.43jonwiltest as in demo unit
15:12.14jonwilz6 has been confirmed as linux by moto though IIRC
15:12.27stefan_schmidtBTW, anybody really know about this new Java/Linux OS (JUIX?) they use on newer phones?
15:12.45LuitvDI wonder about the V8 (razr2)
15:13.03koenI only saw it running on jdubs krzr
15:13.09LuitvDstefan_schmidt: I guess the razr2 does juix
15:13.10WM|lunchbbl.
15:13.20stefan_schmidtkoen: Yeah, that is what I had in mind. :)
15:13.31stefan_schmidtbye WM|lunch
15:13.51stefan_schmidtAt the moment we know nothing about it seems
15:14.23jonwilif its linux based, we will find out more when motorola complies with GPL and publishes whatever source code
15:14.32stefan_schmidtI don't care about the java GUI, but would like to load a new kernel. :D
15:15.07LuitvDstefan_schmidt: lol, now you made me more doubtful about the E6 :P
15:15.18LuitvDnow I want a razr2
15:15.50LuitvDthat razr2 is SOOOOO very very thin... it's absurd
15:16.02stefan_schmidtLuitvD: You are little bit like my GF. Just know what you want one second before you buy.
15:16.29LuitvDI'm a gadgetteer :)
15:16.50jonwilaparently GSM RAZR2 is linux
15:16.58jonwilbut 3G and CDMA are old p2k OS
15:17.20jonwilPresumably motorola doesnt have 3G or CDMA version of EZX/JUIX/linux platform yet :)
15:17.26LuitvDjonwil: yes, the razr2 is either linux like the A1200 and E6, or linux + java
15:18.09LuitvDjonwil: I guess they don't have 3G support in their linux kernel because of it's montavista-ness
15:18.36stefan_schmidtLuitvD: You don't need kernel support for this
15:18.40jonwilactually, the 3G stuff would be handled via BP side
15:18.54jonwiland via whatever changes to AP are required to support features 3G adds to GSM
15:18.55LuitvDhmm, my bad
15:19.01jonwilI believe 3G is GSM with extra bits
15:19.03jonwilor so
15:19.32stefan_schmidtOK, I have to work a bit. I anybody has hard facts about this juix foo let me know.
15:19.36stefan_schmidtbye
15:19.43agd5fhttp://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8879219087.html
15:20.37LuitvDstefan_schmidt: Linux/Java is mentioned in that linuxdevices article ;)
15:20.40stefan_schmidtagd5f: thanks, I'll take a look later. I more hoped about a already-hacked news ;)
15:21.17LuitvDand MotoRizr Z6 is now suddenly the MotoRokr Z6? :|
15:22.53jonwilThat phone (or a similar phone in an L6/L7 candybar form factor) is the phone I would seriously look at buying if I was going to get a new phone
15:23.22agd5fI hate phones with moving parts. they always break
15:23.27LuitvD:P
15:23.34LuitvDthat's why I do like the E6 a lot
15:23.40agd5fme too :)
15:24.01LuitvDthough the RAZRĀ² is mighty thin :)
15:24.08LuitvDand dual-screen
15:25.05LuitvDseriously, that razr2 can well be the thinnest clamshell phone yet...
15:51.44drWyrMif razr2 really runs linux, motorola probably locked it up really hard, it has no BP, everything runs on a single processor. :/
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