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| 08:07.33 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 09:10.58 | florian | good morning |
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| 12:20.04 | drWyrM | good morning. |
| 12:22.45 | stefan_schmidt | hi drWyrM |
| 12:23.08 | stefan_schmidt | drWyrM: Already read my mail about the camera driver licences? |
| 12:23.50 | drWyrM | yes, just replied. |
| 12:24.06 | drWyrM | its great. Looks like they forgot to remove the drivers. |
| 12:26.10 | stefan_schmidt | koen: heh |
| 12:26.44 | stefan_schmidt | drWyrM: Yeah, was a nice surprise to find them all gpl'ed |
| 12:27.06 | stefan_schmidt | Perhaps some other projects could use them as datasheet as well |
| 12:27.07 | koen | probably a surprise to motorola as well ;) |
| 12:27.24 | stefan_schmidt | koen: Perhaps :) |
| 12:27.45 | drWyrM | 2 other people contacted me about these drivers, ive already warned them. :) |
| 12:28.13 | drWyrM | i do think it was a mistake from moto. But.. too late now. Lets spread the news :) |
| 12:28.16 | stefan_schmidt | drWyrM: Great. So you have some more fighters on your side. |
| 12:28.55 | stefan_schmidt | drWyrM: btw, what is your feeling about using the current 2.6.21 branch as ezx within this week? |
| 12:29.24 | stefan_schmidt | drWyrM: go or wait? |
| 12:30.58 | drWyrM | Nice idea. I think it already implements everything from .16 and seems quite stable. |
| 12:31.13 | drWyrM | sound will take some more time anyway. Not worth waiting. |
| 12:32.58 | stefan_schmidt | drWyrM: OK, so I'll prepare something in the next days |
| 12:33.45 | drWyrM | stefan_schmidt: thanks :) |
| 12:34.28 | stefan_schmidt | drWyrM: btw, you can also do changes to the website, new, etc and make releases if you like |
| 12:36.06 | koen | [14:34] CIA-4: ospite org.oe.dev * r7b9f8326... / (1 packages/linux/linux-ezx_2.6.21.bb): linux-exx 2.6.21: For now the code for serial console is disabled in compress.c |
| 12:36.07 | drWyrM | Thanks, i will take a look on how to do it later :) |
| 13:15.51 | ade|desk | if motorola release code that is not their code to release does it still make it valid as GPL ? |
| 13:17.42 | koen | isn't that largely motorola's problem? |
| 13:18.55 | ade|desk | probably, but it could also backfire on us later, we could be forced to remove that code and re implement it differently |
| 13:18.57 | stefan_schmidt | ade|desk: Exactly what koen said. We have source files with gpl header everything else is Motorolas problem |
| 13:19.28 | stefan_schmidt | ade|desk: I doubt that. With what reason? |
| 13:19.37 | ade|desk | if the GPL header is slapped on code that belongs to someone else does not make it GPL code |
| 13:20.09 | stefan_schmidt | ade|desk: It is not sure if it slapped or if it placed carefully |
| 13:20.23 | koen | it's in kernel code anyway |
| 13:20.39 | ade|desk | i'd still get real clarification that it is really GPL'd |
| 13:20.40 | koen | people saying that isn't GPL should be jailed |
| 13:21.01 | stefan_schmidt | ade|desk: We try that for months now. |
| 13:21.34 | stefan_schmidt | ade|desk: I see no problem with this driver. |
| 13:21.45 | ade|desk | who wrote the code for motorola, ask them if Motorola asked if they could GPL it |
| 13:23.10 | stefan_schmidt | ade|desk: I don't see why we should make the problem to ours. We *have* the source under GPL |
| 13:24.05 | koen | the burden is on moto to proof it is gpl |
| 13:26.53 | ade|desk | my point is that if we storm ahead we could lose out in the long run with motorola closing up ranks an not releasing other code under gpl, it's a gamble |
| 13:27.27 | ade|desk | its better to work with than against |
| 13:27.50 | stefan_schmidt | ade|desk: oh, that is what trying for nearly two years now. |
| 13:28.06 | stefan_schmidt | ade|desk: It's just hard if only one party want to play the game |
| 13:28.18 | ade|desk | true |
| 13:28.28 | stefan_schmidt | ade|desk: I had a lot of mails with them |
| 13:28.38 | stefan_schmidt | ade|desk: Even before opensource.motorola.com |
| 13:29.05 | stefan_schmidt | ade|desk: Some engineers are really understand it, but it's a big company |
| 13:29.11 | stefan_schmidt | ... with lawyers |
| 13:30.07 | stefan_schmidt | ade|desk: But my point is that we should not spread fear and wait month for a problem that is not ours |
| 13:30.26 | ade|desk | at the end of the day (sic) lawyers will always win.. lets hope that they have an epiphany and believe the devs |
| 13:31.38 | stefan_schmidt | ade|desk: Would be a surprise imho ;) |
| 13:31.51 | stefan_schmidt | ade|desk: There is process, but really slow |
| 13:32.37 | ade|desk | which reminds me, i need a new battery for my a780, know anywhere to get them ? |
| 13:32.54 | stefan_schmidt | ade|desk: hmm, I got mine from ebay |
| 13:33.51 | stefan_schmidt | ade|desk: btw, I'll add a note about my findings into the opensource.moto.com forum thread about the problem. So moto is informed |
| 13:34.35 | ade|desk | good plan, keep ezx clean and above board. |
| 13:34.52 | stefan_schmidt | ade|desk: That was always the goal |
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| 13:38.50 | ade|desk | hence *keep* |
| 13:46.58 | stefan_schmidt | https://opensource.motorola.com/sf/discussion/do/listPosts/projects.a780e680/discussion.general_comments.topc1353?_message=1179755034856 |
| 13:47.01 | stefan_schmidt | Last entry |
| 13:51.13 | ade|desk | good post |
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| 14:33.40 | drWyrM | runs linux :) |
| 14:43.01 | ade|desk | does it ? with windows media 11 ..oooooh fun, it says linux OS support though |
| 14:45.21 | drWyrM | not linux. |
| 14:45.45 | drWyrM | but it looks good. 2 qvga displays. |
| 14:46.18 | SuN | If it's not confirmed to run Windows, it probably is Linux. |
| 14:46.44 | SuN | Since I've never seen Opera Mobile (not mini) run on anything but Linux, Symbian or WinCE. |
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| 16:28.22 | ao2 | hi Maybelline, are you the Jeremy behind mkphone? |
| 16:28.49 | Maybelline | nope sorry. I'm just a lurker |
| 16:29.10 | ao2 | ah ok, sorry :) |
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