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| 17:31.05 | mickeyl | yo ezx guys |
| 17:31.07 | mickeyl | happy new year |
| 17:32.27 | koen | yo |
| 17:33.57 | stefan_schmidt | yeah, happy new year to all of you |
| 17:34.12 | mickeyl | back in Braunschweig? |
| 17:34.13 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: I have the ok for fosdem from my gf. :) |
| 17:34.19 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: yes |
| 17:34.20 | mickeyl | congrats! |
| 17:34.23 | mickeyl | that's cool |
| 17:34.32 | stefan_schmidt | heh |
| 17:35.05 | ao2 | hi everybody, and Hacky New Year |
| 17:35.30 | stefan_schmidt | thanks ao2 |
| 17:35.54 | dion | hi all |
| 17:35.56 | koen | stefan_schmidt: I heard the astrid is a good hotel in brussel :) |
| 17:36.00 | alphaone | Happy new year all of you |
| 17:36.02 | mickeyl | i can confirm that :) |
| 17:36.07 | dion | happy new year too :) |
| 17:36.08 | mickeyl | happy new year, alphaone |
| 17:36.15 | koen | happy new year all |
| 17:36.16 | stefan_schmidt | ah, oe hotel for fosdem? |
| 17:36.41 | stefan_schmidt | what's the price? |
| 17:36.53 | stefan_schmidt | ~lart himself to be a poor student |
| 17:37.18 | koen | €82/night |
| 17:37.22 | koen | including breakfast |
| 17:37.28 | mickeyl | 86 for a double room, which makes it ok for two guys |
| 17:37.48 | alphaone | hmm |
| 17:37.50 | stefan_schmidt | hmm, I guess we will be three. :( |
| 17:37.57 | stefan_schmidt | damn money |
| 17:38.17 | mickeyl | there's a couple of youth hostels in Brussels as well |
| 17:38.18 | mickeyl | check http://fosdem.org/2007/practical/accomodation |
| 17:38.19 | alphaone | It's probably cheapest to fly to Brussel |
| 17:38.35 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: ? |
| 17:38.53 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: You know something I don't? |
| 17:39.16 | stefan_schmidt | We still would need to drive to Hannover first |
| 17:39.41 | alphaone | Which is covered with our student ticket |
| 17:40.20 | stefan_schmidt | ah, that's right |
| 17:42.11 | stefan_schmidt | ok, have to go. Will be back in one hour. |
| 17:42.20 | mickeyl | cu |
| 17:42.23 | alphaone | cu |
| 17:42.31 | mickeyl | talking about prices.... |
| 17:42.37 | stefan_schmidt | And start E2 boot_usb support hacking again then |
| 17:42.38 | alphaone | Okay, maybe I'm wrong about flying.. |
| 17:42.47 | mickeyl | i paid 22€ for a breakfast in the Radisson Sas. That's crazy... |
| 17:42.49 | mickeyl | :/ |
| 17:42.55 | alphaone | Heh |
| 17:43.38 | koen | mickeyl: I usually go to the store/shop opposite a hotel |
| 17:43.48 | mickeyl | ya, i misinterpreted the hotel price |
| 17:43.55 | mickeyl | i assumed breakfast was included |
| 17:44.02 | mickeyl | did see it not before checkout |
| 17:44.16 | mickeyl | *shrug* bad luck |
| 17:45.01 | alphaone | The FOSDEM schedule is not complete yet, is it? |
| 17:45.07 | koen | nope |
| 17:45.18 | koen | you can still register for a talk iirc |
| 17:45.21 | mickeyl | no, the individual rooms have call -for-presentations until mid january IIRC |
| 17:45.42 | dion | stefan_schmidt: boot_usb supports e2? |
| 17:46.08 | mickeyl | dion: it does now. i have seen it demo'ed |
| 17:46.40 | file | go go openezx presentations ^_^ |
| 17:47.04 | mickeyl | if someone wants to talk about openezx, I'm sure that would be accepted in the embedded room |
| 17:48.20 | dion | mickeyl: current openezx svn supports e2? |
| 17:48.39 | mickeyl | dion: no, i think stefan has some patches that are not yet in. |
| 17:48.55 | mickeyl | he just managed to boot it on 23c3 |
| 17:49.36 | dion | currently i have no e2 so i will wait while stefan commit changes |
| 17:51.04 | alphaone | Well, I'll try to push development in one of the other projects I'm involved in. Will be back to hacking EZX end of the week. |
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| 18:36.47 | _stefan_schmidt | dion: I was able to use the hacked boot_usb from dotmonkey to boot a 2.4 E680 kernel on it. :) |
| 18:37.41 | _stefan_schmidt | dion: I'm on the last polishing to get the changes merged in our boot_usb, the one from dotmonkey has way to much other changes. |
| 18:38.04 | dion | ok |
| 18:38.23 | _stefan_schmidt | dion: expect in tonight our tomorrow in svn |
| 18:38.41 | dion | ok.. thx |
| 18:39.37 | _stefan_schmidt | I also plan to make a release from boot_usb after this changes. It's somewhat nicer sometimes. |
| 18:40.14 | _stefan_schmidt | mickey|dinner: hmm, talk about oe (openezx ;)) at fosdem? |
| 18:40.51 | _stefan_schmidt | mickey|dinner: I'm more or less fine with my written english, but my spoken one... :( |
| 18:41.49 | _stefan_schmidt | mickey|dinner: I need to think about it a bit more. When was the deadline again? |
| 18:46.25 | koen | commit early, commit often |
| 18:46.37 | koen | it doesn't have to be perfect |
| 18:47.25 | stefan_schmidt | it's a long away from being perfect. :) |
| 18:47.33 | koen | so commit what you have now |
| 18:49.07 | stefan_schmidt | I'll do it tonight. Dinner, work, commit |
| 18:49.28 | koen | instead of needing weeks of harrassing "because it isn't good enough" |
| 18:49.34 | stefan_schmidt | The code i started with is available on the ml. |
| 18:49.56 | stefan_schmidt | Dotmonkey posted it a week ago and i asked people with E2 to test |
| 18:50.01 | stefan_schmidt | Nobody did so far |
| 18:50.45 | koen | makes it much easier to rollback |
| 18:51.11 | stefan_schmidt | yeah, rollback to every working state is fine |
| 18:51.55 | stefan_schmidt | I don't think we can change our opinions here |
| 18:55.28 | koen | ah, well, it seems the whole openezx thing wants to be a cathedral |
| 18:55.43 | koen | fine by me, but don't pretent it's a bazaar |
| 18:56.55 | stefan_schmidt | aargh, we had this some time ago. No cathedral, but I don't start to commit every bit non working code. |
| 18:57.20 | stefan_schmidt | I help everybody, on ml and IRC, to join the team |
| 18:57.36 | stefan_schmidt | Help for user and dev, mostly every question... |
| 18:59.00 | koen | but you refuse to commit the code you have to svn |
| 18:59.06 | koen | sounds like bazaar to me |
| 18:59.18 | mickey|dinner | stefan_schmidt: you have two weeks |
| 18:59.20 | mickey|dinner | see http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org/msg01408.html |
| 18:59.41 | mickey|dinner | heh, are you nuts |
| 18:59.41 | stefan_schmidt | sounds like just make pressure to me |
| 19:00.08 | koen | why do you backup non-working bits? |
| 19:00.19 | mickey|dinner | Philippe De Swert is the contact person |
| 19:00.22 | stefan_schmidt | I backup everything on my hdd |
| 19:00.35 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|dinner: thanks. I'll think about it |
| 19:00.49 | mickey|dinner | k |
| 19:01.58 | stefan_schmidt | koen: http://people.openezx.org/stefan/tmp/foo.patch |
| 19:02.19 | koen | thanks |
| 19:03.48 | dion | hmm. interesting |
| 19:04.35 | koen | that happened *too* many times |
| 19:04.42 | dion | looks like it's 100% same as old boot_usb with only few changes: start address, and some fixes to find e2 endpoints |
| 19:05.17 | stefan_schmidt | koen: Yes, this is right. What's about if I promise to get better with the early(often commit thing? |
| 19:05.31 | stefan_schmidt | dion: Right |
| 19:05.48 | koen | stefan_schmidt: if the source/patch/diff/whatever is online somewhere it is ok |
| 19:06.00 | stefan_schmidt | dion: Only PID, addr and endpoints changed. But it was a mess to find this in the code from dotmonkey |
| 19:07.40 | stefan_schmidt | dion: You can make a diff between the both versions yourself to see it |
| 19:08.12 | dion | i just look to source from mailing list but never tried to diff it :) |
| 19:08.23 | stefan_schmidt | dion: good choice |
| 19:08.34 | dion | maybe :) |
| 19:08.55 | stefan_schmidt | dion: He changed coding style, ported to windows and added E2 support. All in one |
| 19:09.13 | dion | LOL :) |
| 19:11.07 | stefan_schmidt | koen: I used Lindent for it. :) |
| 19:11.17 | stefan_schmidt | btw, it should also work with A1200 |
| 19:11.22 | stefan_schmidt | testers? |
| 19:11.54 | stefan_schmidt | anyway, gf is calling. cu |
| 19:54.57 | dion | :) |
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| 20:48.45 | stefan_schmidt | OK, is is in svn now. |
| 20:49.00 | stefan_schmidt | Works fine for A780 and E2 here. |
| 20:49.06 | stefan_schmidt | nh_work: ping |
| 20:50.05 | stefan_schmidt | Let me see if I can put together some README and make a 0.1 release before announcing this on website and ml |
| 21:02.59 | ao2 | stefan_schmidt, does any openezx developer have write access to the svn repository? |
| 21:04.02 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: Yes, as soon as you write your svn passwd in the file in your $HOME I add you to the svn.authz list. :) |
| 21:06.54 | stefan_schmidt | http://svn.openezx.org/tags/boot_usb-0.1.0/ |
| 21:07.58 | koen | is there a tarball for that? |
| 21:08.56 | stefan_schmidt | I prepare one right now and upload it |
| 21:09.04 | stefan_schmidt | Also a news on the website about it |
| 21:09.14 | stefan_schmidt | Send a link in some minutes |
| 21:16.06 | ao2 | stefan_schmidt, I have a patch for fbgrab-viewer, so we are ready for openmoko live presentations ;) |
| 21:16.31 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: heh, fine |
| 21:16.55 | koen | [22:16] CIA-4: koen org.oe.dev * rdad83638... / (3 files in 2 dirs): ezx-boot-usb: update to svn rev 1922 which adds supports for the ROKR E2 (motorola should get a better spellchecker) |
| 21:16.58 | ao2 | please let me know the details for obtain write permissions |
| 21:17.22 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: give me a moment to finish the maintain stuff |
| 21:17.37 | stefan_schmidt | koen: nice |
| 21:17.58 | ao2 | koen's open embedded nature (a recursive acronym for koen ...) |
| 21:18.00 | koen | I'll make the tarball the default for the poor people behind firewalls |
| 21:18.07 | koen | ao2: :) |
| 21:24.05 | stefan_schmidt | koen: http://www.openezx.org/download/boot_usb-0.1.0.tar.bz2 |
| 21:25.32 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: Write your svn passwd in $HOME/svn-passwd.txt |
| 21:25.57 | ao2 | Do I have to chose an arbitrary password? |
| 21:26.35 | stefan_schmidt | I would choose a random one |
| 21:26.43 | stefan_schmidt | As svn stores it anyway |
| 21:27.21 | ao2 | ok |
| 21:27.56 | koen | [22:27] CIA-4: koen org.oe.dev * r49a2d8df... / (1 packages/ezx/ezx-boot-usb-native_0.1.0.bb): ezx-boot-usb: add 0.1.0 release |
| 21:27.58 | koen | there you go |
| 21:29.04 | stefan_schmidt | koen: fine |
| 21:30.51 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: It should work now |
| 21:31.22 | ao2 | fine, you already did everything needed? Fast! |
| 21:31.44 | dion | stefan_schmidt: does anybody works with mux_cli for 2.6 now? |
| 21:31.48 | ao2 | almost like koen... :) |
| 21:31.55 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: It's a one liner. Just add you to the htpasswd for svn |
| 21:32.17 | ao2 | I see, thanks. |
| 21:32.25 | stefan_schmidt | dion: We work on it again at the end of the week. |
| 21:32.39 | dion | oh.. ok :) |
| 21:32.58 | alphaone | dion: There will be another hacking session after I'm back in Braunschweig |
| 21:33.04 | alphaone | I hope :-) |
| 21:33.11 | ao2 | make it portable, as fist step, please, so we can experiment with pass through mode :) |
| 21:33.25 | stefan_schmidt | dion: It has still highest priority. I just like to give some E2 hackers a tool to work with. |
| 21:33.27 | koen | [22:33] CIA-4: koen org.oe.dev * rf80ec3fe... / (1 conf/machine/a780.conf): a780: include opentapi in the default rootfs. opentapi does still need an initscript to start on boot, though |
| 21:33.36 | koen | thanks to dion for reminding me of that |
| 21:33.49 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: You don't need to hope. I will already wait in your flat. ;) |
| 21:34.33 | dion | koen: just want to ask, what target i should build to use openembedded for ezx? |
| 21:34.36 | stefan_schmidt | right, initscript. We prepare one next session. |
| 21:34.56 | koen | dion: MACHINE="a780" DISTRO="angstrom-2007.1" |
| 21:35.24 | koen | then 'bitbake angstrom-bootstrap-image" |
| 21:35.40 | dion | and what "package" i should build to get rootfs? |
| 21:35.44 | dion | oh.. ok |
| 21:35.54 | dion | will try tomorrow |
| 21:36.22 | dion | currently i have just bootstraped debian/arm rootfs |
| 21:36.33 | koen | or use an image from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/20070101/a780/ |
| 21:38.20 | dion | thx |
| 21:38.29 | dion | i will try to build it at first |
| 21:38.30 | alphaone | stefan_schmidt: Did I tell you that marek will bring his Wii? ;-) |
| 21:39.23 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: No, but I was sure he will do. :) |
| 21:39.41 | alphaone | koen: Improving opentapi and initscript is one of the next things on my todo list |
| 21:41.19 | koen | alphaone: http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/ezx/opentapi_svn.bb |
| 21:41.20 | alphaone | Being able to send message to the different mux devices will really increase usefulness. |
| 21:41.23 | koen | patches welcome :) |
| 21:41.23 | ao2 | if you really want to hack on openezx, leave the wii at home :) just joking. |
| 21:42.09 | alphaone | ao2: It's not me bringing it, it's a friend :-) |
| 21:42.18 | alphaone | That's is essentially the problem |
| 21:43.02 | alphaone | koen: We'll see :-) |
| 22:07.24 | ao2 | OT: did you ever used workrave http://www.workrave.org/welcome/ ? It is a quite useful software |
| 22:18.55 | koen | yeah, it was mandatory for that job |
| 22:28.46 | mickey|tv | fbgrab-viewer patch? what for and where is that? |
| 22:36.05 | ao2 | mickey|tv, Harald coded fbgrab-viewer, a client to use fbgrab network mode, but I do not know if such network mode is a native feature of fbgrab or an addition made by Harald himself |
| 22:36.16 | ao2 | fbgrab here: http://svn.openezx.org/trunk/src/userspace/fbgrab/ |
| 22:36.22 | mickey|tv | oh that one |
| 22:36.28 | ao2 | patch here: http://people.openezx.org/ao2/fbgrab-viewer_create_image.diff |
| 22:36.31 | mickey|tv | that was Haralds addition |
| 22:36.54 | ao2 | I'll test the patch and commit |
| 22:36.59 | mickey|tv | cool, thanks |
| 22:42.02 | ao2 | is there an openembedded package for fbgrab? |
| 22:42.20 | koen | for the unpatched version, yes |
| 22:42.36 | koen | http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/fbgrab/fbgrab_1.0.bb |
| 22:43.06 | ao2 | mmh, so no network mode |
| 22:51.57 | ao2 | a diff between openezx version and upstrem code http://people.openezx.org/ao2/fbgrab_network_mode.diff , just in case _someone_ (hemm...) wants to update openembedded package. |
| 22:53.32 | ao2 | I'll try to ping the upstream author to see if he wants to integrate the changes, what do you think? |
| 22:54.45 | mickey|tv | sounds like a good plan |
| 23:57.03 | LaF0rge | the fbgrab-viewer was never 100% completed |
| 23:57.44 | LaF0rge | first have a viewer finished, then contact the author. this is completely untested |