| 00:00.00 | alphaone | sad but yeah |
| 00:00.04 | jonwil | and thats all moto software |
| 00:00.09 | jonwil | so there is no need for it to send AT+CLAC |
| 00:00.10 | alphaone | exactly |
| 00:00.18 | jonwil | that doesnt mean we cant work out what the BP is doing |
| 00:00.27 | jonwil | by listening to tapisrv conversations and trying stuff |
| 00:01.15 | alphaone | That's why we need to find out what programs are talking to tapisrv and what fds they correspond to. |
| 00:01.32 | jonwil | yes] |
| 00:01.43 | alphaone | So we can gues by seing which messages are sent where |
| 00:02.40 | alphaone | Or maybe someone should ask Motorola real nice if they could send us their internal AT command set |
| 00:02.44 | alphaone | :-) |
| 00:03.05 | jonwil | like that would ever happen :) |
| 00:05.34 | alphaone | :-) |
| 00:06.12 | jonwil | we probobly dont need to send every AT command there is anyway, just the ones we need to use to get the items working that we need to get working :) |
| 00:08.40 | jonwil | making and recieving calls is easy enough |
| 00:09.03 | alphaone | Yeah |
| 00:09.09 | jonwil | the hard part will be dealing with some of the funkier AT commands like CHLD and CIEV |
| 00:09.21 | jonwil | what little I know about AT commands suggests those are annoying |
| 00:09.56 | jonwil | I think it might be usefull to take the tapisrv logs we have so far and identify the AT commands being sent |
| 00:10.08 | jonwil | and start documenting on the wiki all commands known to be sent |
| 00:10.25 | jonwil | as we discover who sends them we can expand |
| 00:11.09 | jonwil | especially it may be possible to work out some of the AT+E commands by context |
| 00:11.39 | jonwil | AT+ESPN looks to be the service provider name |
| 00:12.42 | alphaone | Yeah, that is definitely one of the next steps |
| 00:13.19 | alphaone | I think stefan_schmidt has started documenting these |
| 00:13.57 | jonwil | where? |
| 00:15.46 | alphaone | AFAIK just on his laptop. |
| 00:16.14 | jonwil | ok |
| 00:16.21 | jonwil | AT+EBTP may have something to do with bluetooth |
| 00:16.27 | jonwil | BT being bluetooth |
| 00:16.30 | jonwil | and P being maybe power |
| 00:16.57 | alphaone | nope it's in the svn |
| 00:16.59 | alphaone | trunk/doc/ipc/BP-tapisrv-AT-communication.txt |
| 00:19.22 | alphaone | yeah, we specifically tried that |
| 00:19.31 | alphaone | It's in http://people.openezx.org/alphaone/logs/tapisrv-call |
| 00:24.10 | jonwil | once we know who is sending what to tapisrv, we will be in a better position to guess at the different AT commands |
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| 00:24.35 | jonwil | if I knew more about ARM assembly I could disassemble tapisrv itself |
| 00:24.39 | jonwil | but I dont know ARM |
| 00:28.03 | dion | hmm.. i'm trying to mount NFS rootfs.. but after mounting kernel i got message: Unable to open initial console |
| 00:28.05 | dion | any ideas? |
| 00:30.19 | alphaone | hmm |
| 00:30.39 | alphaone | no |
| 00:30.56 | alphaone | without nfs console is okay? |
| 00:32.15 | dion | this is my first attempt to use rootfs |
| 00:32.26 | dion | phone is pingable |
| 00:32.59 | alphaone | does /dev/console exist? |
| 00:33.29 | dion | no :) |
| 00:33.37 | alphaone | even if you use devfs the device should exist on the filesystem itself |
| 00:33.43 | alphaone | There you go :-) |
| 00:34.26 | dion | fixed.. and init started.. but it shows message that there is no inittab.. This is good.. :) |
| 00:35.07 | alphaone | :-) |
| 00:36.14 | dion | hmm.. all my debian packages are not configured because debootstap tries to chroot rootfs and launch binaries.. so looks like i need to configure rootfs using original kerenel and userspace |
| 00:41.58 | dion | i will try to find nfs kernel module for motorola kernel and chroot to rootfs from original firmware |
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| 01:36.08 | alphaone | good luck |
| 01:36.20 | alphaone | I will get some sleep now |
| 01:36.22 | alphaone | good night |
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| 07:18.52 | proberts | hi |
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| 09:52.33 | jonwil | hi |
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| 11:16.20 | dion | hi all |
| 11:18.47 | jonwil | hi dion |
| 11:20.20 | jonwil | at this rate we will meet the goal (via opentapi plus gnokii or something) of being able to make and recieve phonecalls using only open source software on top of a selfbuilt 2.4 kernel before the end of the year |
| 11:20.34 | jonwil | and if someone can fix the 2.6 USB issue, that will probobly start working right too :) |
| 11:20.55 | jonwil | if I had knowledge of ARM assembler I would disassemble tapisrv and other ezx phone bits |
| 11:21.06 | jonwil | and do the dirty side of a clean room reverse engineering job |
| 11:22.11 | dion | ok.. /me still trying to make debian-way rootfs |
| 11:33.51 | dion | strange... now i can't boot my phone via boot_usb |
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| 11:37.25 | dion | hmm.. http://wiki.openezx.org/Bootloader I got 0xc0000000 |
| 12:04.41 | stefan_schmidt | *yawn* |
| 12:04.58 | stefan_schmidt | More then three hours of sleep are definitly a good idea. :) |
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| 12:08.38 | dion | stefan_schmidt: hey |
| 12:08.55 | dion | stefan_schmidt: any ideas why NFS is mounted read-only? |
| 12:08.56 | stefan_schmidt | hi dion, ao2 |
| 12:09.10 | stefan_schmidt | dion: I add it to the wiki right now. :) |
| 12:10.07 | ao2 | hi |
| 12:11.22 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: Nice work with 2.4 sd root |
| 12:11.32 | stefan_schmidt | dion: http://wiki.openezx.org/Rootfs_on_NFS |
| 12:11.42 | stefan_schmidt | dion: I never tested it. |
| 12:11.57 | dion | ok.. will read |
| 12:12.07 | stefan_schmidt | dion: It's just an example I have stolen from mickey|zzZZzz oe config. |
| 12:12.35 | ao2 | as it happens often, once you did it you realize it was fairly trivial :) |
| 12:12.50 | dion | stefan_schmidt: i flashed 2.6 kernel.. but if i turn phone on just using power key, got kernel panic.. |
| 12:13.22 | dion | stefan_schmidt: but if i just insert charger, kernel boots fine, nfs mounted and i can see login prompt |
| 12:13.26 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: As always. The work is to realize this. :) |
| 12:13.38 | dion | but i should replace Charget with usb cable :) |
| 12:13.43 | stefan_schmidt | dion: hmm, I never seen something like this. |
| 12:14.23 | dion | stefan_schmidt: i use same CMDLine.. but nfs mounts ro :( trying to get shell |
| 12:15.14 | stefan_schmidt | dion: Sorry, I can't help here. Never done nfsroot |
| 12:15.46 | dion | i will do something :). can't get sshd works, because it want rw /var |
| 12:17.47 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: ping |
| 12:17.57 | alphaone | pong |
| 12:18.31 | alphaone | stefan_schmidt: What's up? |
| 12:18.39 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: Like to write a short mail about our progress to openezx-devel? |
| 12:18.56 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: Had some nice hours of sleep. 12 hours. :) |
| 12:19.15 | stefan_schmidt | Some more cloth washing and flat cleanup today. |
| 12:19.21 | alphaone | Yeah, I planned on doing that today ( after it was clear that I wouldn't be doing it yesterday |
| 12:19.39 | alphaone | But first I'll be eating breakfast |
| 12:19.49 | stefan_schmidt | But I hope to do some work in the evening. |
| 12:19.56 | alphaone | And then I might try to improve opentapi |
| 12:19.59 | stefan_schmidt | heh |
| 12:28.26 | dion | stefan_schmidt: any idea what FLAG=0xc0000000 mean? there is no such flag on wiki page. And i can't boot via boot_usb now |
| 12:30.36 | ao2 | the flag value is the same as MEM_START (from the blob code) |
| 12:31.09 | stefan_schmidt | dion: The FLAG interesting FLAGs are 0x12345678 and some one that indicates sleep sate. |
| 12:31.47 | stefan_schmidt | dion: I always have 0xc0000000 after I have booted a 2.6 kernel. Means that the value the kernel write on the first word in RAM, not more. |
| 12:32.05 | stefan_schmidt | dion: The FLAG should not be related if your kernel don't boot. |
| 12:32.14 | dion | hmm. ok |
| 12:34.21 | ao2 | I was thinking if there is a flag to reset the BP, we can change BP state (like for passthrough mode), so maybe we can put it in normal mode with a similar trick. |
| 12:35.26 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: BP can not read this RAM, it's AP RAM |
| 12:35.57 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: I'm pretty sure it's only a dirty trick for communicating kernel<->Bootloader |
| 12:36.49 | ao2 | bu in blob code is there a reference to BP memory: #define BPSIG_ADDR(SDRAM_BASE_PHYS + 8) |
| 12:37.12 | ao2 | well, maybe it _is_ AP memory but read by BP too? |
| 12:37.56 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: hmm, the define looks indeed interesting. |
| 12:38.17 | ao2 | and the comment above states: add resume support to exiting sleep and user off mode. |
| 12:38.24 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: But I would wonder if the BP can read this RAM. |
| 12:38.52 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: But perhaps you're right. I don't know. |
| 12:39.58 | ao2 | We can try modifying passthroug.S to write different flag value to this address... but I would like to avoid to do that on my phone, since I do not have another one |
| 12:42.35 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: heh |
| 12:42.51 | stefan_schmidt | I add it to my TODO list. But with low priority. |
| 12:43.52 | ao2 | right |
| 12:45.36 | dion | mux devices have same major,minor for 2.6 kernel? |
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| 14:10.24 | dion | hmm. finally i got something like shell with 2.6 kernel |
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| 14:57.07 | dion | hmm.. looks like i can't create lockfiles over NFS |
| 15:00.50 | [g2] | dion is 2.6 staying up now with the tapiserv code ? |
| 15:01.33 | dion | can't check.. my root access is too limited.. i use it over boot_usb now. |
| 15:24.53 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: We had a first, totaly oversleep, test. Did not work. But we think there are still some issues with the usb glue of the mux_cli driver. |
| 15:25.07 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: That is our next step. |
| 15:25.45 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt THX for the update. GL on the progress! You guys are doing great stuff :) |
| 15:26.12 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: thx |
| 15:43.14 | dion | stefan_schmidt: where i can find, which major & minor should have SD card device? |
| 15:46.15 | stefan_schmidt | dion: It's a question how the driver handles this. Use fixed minor/major or use the kernel infrastructure, which is preferred. |
| 15:46.25 | stefan_schmidt | dion: You search for 2.4 or 2.6? |
| 15:52.40 | dion | for 2.6.16-ezx |
| 15:55.04 | stefan_schmidt | dion: In 2.6 we use the kernel infrastructure. But I don't have the minor/major by the hand. Why do you like to know this? |
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| 16:02.30 | dion | oops.. was disconnected |
| 16:06.04 | stefan_schmidt | <stefan_schmidt> dion: In 2.6 we use the kernel infrastructure. But I don't have the minor/major by the hand. Why do you like to know this? |
| 16:08.22 | dion | i want to mount SD card but root is NFS |
| 16:09.58 | stefan_schmidt | dion: /dev/mmcblk0p1 don't work for you? |
| 16:10.14 | stefan_schmidt | dion: It's first partition on first sd card. |
| 16:10.33 | dion | i have no such device.. |
| 16:10.53 | dion | i use just debian etch deboostrap for rootfs |
| 16:11.19 | stefan_schmidt | ah, ok. You like to add the dev on your own. |
| 16:12.11 | dion | yeah.. i want to add dev, but i don't know, how.. looks like i should use mknod like on 2.4 kernels, but i should know major and minor |
| 16:12.42 | stefan_schmidt | dion: A quick google search gives me this numbers: 254, 1 2005-11-06 18:00 /dev/mmcblk0p1 |
| 16:13.42 | dion | hmm. will try. so it isn't ezx specific |
| 16:13.50 | stefan_schmidt | http://lists.arm.linux.org.uk/pipermail/linux-arm/2005-August/010369.html |
| 16:14.01 | stefan_schmidt | dion: No, we don't use the mo |
| 16:14.09 | stefan_schmidt | moto sd driver in our 2.6 kernel |
| 16:22.04 | alphaone | dion: Major should show up in /proc/devices |
| 16:23.06 | dion | alphaone: hmm. thanks |
| 16:23.50 | dion | mmc is 254 |
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| 16:46.40 | dion | hmm... i can't read SD card. just got input/output error |
| 16:47.21 | dion | mcblk0: mmc0:b368 SDC 2009600KiB |
| 16:47.24 | dion | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:47.24 | dion | end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 0 |
| 16:47.24 | dion | Buffer I/O error on device mmcblk0, logical block 0 |
| 16:47.27 | dion | stefan_schmidt: any ideas? |
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| 17:10.06 | alphaone | dion, you there? |
| 17:10.48 | dion | yeah.. sometimes |
| 17:10.53 | alphaone | If you want you could comment out +CBC and +CBSM so opentapi just sends AT+USBSTAT and see if that keeps the phone alive |
| 17:11.47 | alphaone | You have to change INIT_STATES and MAX_STATES accordingly |
| 17:13.18 | proberts | Did that AT+ESART(25) command not work to fix the timeout shutdown? |
| 17:14.12 | dion | alphaone: i will do this after 30 mins.. just busy now :) |
| 17:14.25 | alphaone | dion: k, thanks |
| 17:16.05 | alphaone | proberts: That AT+ESATR command is sent much later (after I enter my PIN) and I the phone stays on while it is prompting me for it. |
| 17:17.05 | alphaone | It would be good to know what that ESATR command sends on other phones. But we will have a A780 to play with soon :-) |
| 17:19.53 | proberts | alphaone: Do you have the value for the ROKR? I can try to find it for you if it would help |
| 17:20.50 | alphaone | proberts: No, I don't. Would be good to know, though |
| 17:33.01 | alphaone | Please disturb :-) |
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| 20:55.06 | proberts | Anyone here that's working on the BP shutdown issue? |
| 21:10.11 | SuN | Anyone here that's not working on it is a better question I think :) |
| 21:10.15 | SuN | Well, except for me. |
| 21:15.00 | proberts | Just wondering if they're all not afk. |
| 21:15.30 | proberts | I found a couple of things related to that digging though the source today for something I'm working on. |
| 21:15.47 | nh_home | proberts: a couple of people were talking about it yesterday |
| 21:16.02 | proberts | nh_home: Hey :) How's it going? |
| 21:16.26 | nh_home | proberts: Pretty good, just got back from a 2 day vacation with my wife. :) |
| 21:17.16 | proberts | hn_home: BTW, I found out our E2's max clock (at least as high as Motorola sets is) is 312Mhz. I've also found where we could possibly overclock/overvoltage the phone when we're both ready to brick it :P |
| 21:17.19 | proberts | Go anywhere fun? |
| 21:17.58 | nh_home | proberts: up to Duluth and Two Harbors here in Minnesota. |
| 21:18.25 | proberts | Minnesota... that sounds cold. ;) |
| 21:18.39 | nh_home | proberts: there's a nice hotel on Lake Superior that has good discounts on suites this time of year. :) |
| 21:18.54 | nh_home | proberts: hah, it's been in the 40s lately, a heat wave. :) |
| 21:19.02 | proberts | brrrrr |
| 21:19.33 | nh_home | proberts: considering that it can get down to -30 or more, that's quite balmy. :) |
| 21:19.57 | nh_home | Still, we stayed inside by the fireplace and jacuzzi most of the time. :) |
| 21:20.49 | proberts | sounds nice. |
| 21:20.49 | proberts | (inside at least) :) |
| 21:20.49 | nh_home | yeah, good food too. |
| 21:21.45 | nh_home | 2 nights in a suite with a lake view, and $60 in restaurant cirtificates for $270. |
| 21:22.58 | proberts | BTW- I've just about got my xze2 lib to a 1.0 release state, if you're interested. It allows an app to grab low-level access to gfx, audio, keypad, and backlight/LCD timeouts on the E2. (Trying to add CPU speed control hoping that's why the LCD fill rate is so bad.) |
| 21:23.03 | proberts | Wow - that's a great price. |
| 21:24.37 | nh_home | yeah, they have trouble getting people into the hotel in November/December because it hasn't snowed enough for skiing and all the pretty leaves have fallen off the trees so no one wants to go hiking. The lake is still pretty though. |
| 21:25.09 | nh_home | proberts: that library sounds great! What's the license? |
| 21:25.24 | proberts | probably immunized zlib/libpng |
| 21:25.43 | nh_home | IO' |
| 21:25.45 | nh_home | doh |
| 21:26.04 | nh_home | I've been wondering how hard it would be to get the xnes9x port for the 680i working on the E2. |
| 21:27.03 | proberts | lol - funny you should ask that :P Yesterday I looked at porting a stripped-down MAME and possibly a GBA emulator |
| 21:27.55 | nh_home | nice! :) |
| 21:28.23 | nh_home | There's a lot of discussion about various emulators for the 680i/a780 phones on motorolafans.com |
| 21:28.59 | proberts | yeah - I've got to get our company's game/app ported first... but I went straight to "emulator" as well. |
| 21:29.59 | proberts | Have people ported any over already? |
| 21:32.14 | nh_home | proberts: not that I've found. The E2 community is quite a bit smaller, and so far you're the only other real developer I know of that has one. :) |
| 21:32.37 | nh_home | Most of the people on the forums seem to be users/tinkerers |
| 21:33.28 | proberts | ok.. in that case we should try talking some of them into bricking their phones before we brick ours with a OpenEZX flash ;P |
| 21:34.14 | nh_home | They make new themes and edit the ini files, but very few seem to actually be trying to port or modify software on the phone. Apparently there's a chinese forum that may have some developers, but I have no idea how to read chinese to check. |
| 21:34.48 | nh_home | proberts: lol, if we released a flash file on the forum they'd probably try it even with big warnings. |
| 21:35.36 | nh_home | So long as we were careful not to *really* brick their phones, they'd probably just switch back to one of the other unofficial firmwares. |
| 21:36.14 | proberts | yeah... I'm sure. I wish Mot would release official firmware files. |
| 21:36.22 | proberts | brb |
| 21:36.46 | nh_home | speaking of which, they released 40p source 4 or 5 days ago. |
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| 21:53.01 | dion | hi.. just back |
| 22:17.04 | jaebird | E6 released in china! |
| 22:17.13 | jaebird | looks pretty sweet |
| 22:17.48 | jaebird | seems to be ~ $450.00 if I remember correctly from my conversion |
| 22:18.04 | jaebird | still no wifi though...argh |
| 22:18.53 | jaebird | if I had to choose...i'd go with the Neo i think |
| 22:19.40 | jaebird | although i like the lnf of the moto better |
| 22:20.23 | jaebird | s/450.00/450.00 US/ |
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| 22:31.04 | proberts | dion: Hi :) Has anyone with a motorola 2.4 build been able to make the bp shut down the ap (like 2.6 does) |
| 22:31.57 | dion | hmm. i think, that if we will not start tapisrv, it will shutdown |
| 22:33.22 | dion | btw i never check this |
| 22:33.26 | alphaone | proberts: Yes. If tapisrv is not started at boot it shuts down |
| 22:33.40 | dion | alphaone: was it checked? |
| 22:34.27 | proberts | dion/alphaone: There's a ioctl hook to reset the bp in ezx. Do you think there's any point in doing a test to kill tapisrv, reset the bp, and see if it shuts down? |
| 22:34.48 | proberts | dion/alphaone: There's also a powermngt ioctl to 'ignore bp'. |
| 22:34.54 | dion | proberts: ioctl to what device? |
| 22:35.08 | proberts | dion: apm_bios |
| 22:35.57 | dion | i think that there should be ioctl to turn off/turn on bp or to something like this, (when we turn off/on antenna) |
| 22:36.10 | dion | possible suspend it |
| 22:36.45 | proberts | dion: I haven't found one to power down the bp, just suspend. |
| 22:37.52 | dion | i don't understand why 2.6 kernel can't read my SD card. rootfs over nfs is not so good |
| 22:38.12 | stefan_schmidt | proberts: That sounds really interesting. Where did you found this ioctl's? |
| 22:38.31 | stefan_schmidt | You are sure they are also inside the E680/A780 kernel? |
| 22:38.56 | stefan_schmidt | proberts: It would be great if you can put the infos in a mail and send it to the ml. :) |
| 22:39.29 | stefan_schmidt | s/this/these/ |
| 22:40.23 | dion | stefan_schmidt: any ideas about my SD card issue? 2.6 kernel can't read it |
| 22:40.52 | dion | i got a lot of i/o errors to syslog |
| 22:41.20 | proberts | sorry - tending my 3yo while trying to irc |
| 22:42.21 | stefan_schmidt | dion: hmm, I have seen your post. But I have no idea about it. |
| 22:42.43 | stefan_schmidt | dion: Only used the sd directly as rootfs |
| 22:43.02 | dion | stefan_schmidt: it shows IO errors _before_ mounting rootfs |
| 22:43.14 | stefan_schmidt | dion: oh |
| 22:43.25 | stefan_schmidt | dion: You are sure your card is fine? |
| 22:43.28 | proberts | There's a user-space front-end for the bp ignore in libezxpm.so as int PM_setupIgnoreBpSignal(int); |
| 22:43.53 | dion | yes.. 2.4 kernel can read it as well as my PC + cardreader |
| 22:44.01 | stefan_schmidt | hmm |
| 22:45.01 | stefan_schmidt | I heard about problems with some SD cards and the in-kernel sd driver, but never had problems myself. |
| 22:45.08 | stefan_schmidt | :( |
| 22:45.11 | proberts | The reset is in the apm_biod device ioctl as APM_IOC_RESET_BP |
| 22:45.48 | proberts | and it does this: |
| 22:45.58 | proberts | GPCR(GPIO_BB_RESET) = GPIO_bit(GPIO_BB_RESET); |
| 22:45.58 | proberts | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:45.58 | proberts | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.19 | proberts | ...if that means anything to you hw guys |
| 22:46.21 | proberts | :P |
| 22:46.34 | proberts | (apm_bios device) |
| 22:47.02 | stefan_schmidt | proberts: OK, that is the GPIO Harald also tried to use some time ago. |
| 22:47.30 | proberts | proberts: If you want me to test it, I have module code created I can use to hijack any of the single instance misc devices. |
| 22:47.36 | proberts | oops..lol |
| 22:47.59 | stefan_schmidt | heh |
| 22:48.23 | stefan_schmidt | Would be interesting if it works for you. |
| 22:49.04 | stefan_schmidt | Harald tried to use this some time ago to get from flash mode into regular mode but it never worked for him. |
| 22:49.38 | stefan_schmidt | Would still be great to get this working. |
| 22:51.37 | proberts | Hmmm... There's reference in the pm code to poweroff the AP while waiting for a BP_RDY signal. |
| 22:51.48 | dion | stefan_schmidt: after uploading orginal bootloader using boot_usb, something happens and USB device will became device with 2 interfaces. I'm not sure but looks like BP interface accepts RESTART command |
| 22:53.09 | stefan_schmidt | proberts: Yes, you need to hold the power button until the kernel enter step two. |
| 22:53.20 | proberts | stefan_schmidt: Ah - ok. |
| 22:53.49 | stefan_schmidt | proberts: We have observed that BP and AP turn on even if you turn in the battery or press the button short |
| 22:54.17 | stefan_schmidt | proberts: The kernel will boot but shutdown as the signal don't arrive. |
| 22:55.18 | stefan_schmidt | dion: OK, I check this. |
| 22:55.56 | stefan_schmidt | s/this/it/ |
| 22:56.31 | dion | also possible it will accept RESTART command after uploading BP loader from shx |
| 22:57.09 | proberts | BTW- I added EZX hardware family names to the wiki in "EZX Platform Overview" ... I'm not 100% sure of my understanding... so if anyone's bored and wants to check what I wrote... |
| 23:04.24 | stefan_schmidt | proberts: family names are fine. |
| 23:04.57 | proberts | stefan_schmidt: Any idea which models are which? |
| 23:06.24 | stefan_schmidt | proberts: When I have found me notes I'll ass them to the wiki. |
| 23:06.34 | proberts | cool. |
| 23:06.43 | proberts | I'll help with the source |
| 23:08.34 | proberts | have you guys tried or been able to clock your CPU under 2.6 any higher than 208Mhz? In the PM src, Sumatra and Hainan max clock at 312, everything else to 208, but Harald's docs say max is 400 (guessing actuallly 416Mhz) |
| 23:09.24 | stefan_schmidt | never tried |
| 23:09.50 | stefan_schmidt | first get a working phone, optimizations afterwards. ;) |
| 23:10.48 | proberts | Can I do any perm damage if I tinker with the clock speeds? (I also found where to set voltage... guessint that would be bad) |
| 23:11.05 | proberts | s/guessint/guessing |
| 23:11.17 | blkhawk | proberts: why? |
| 23:11.28 | blkhawk | proberts: can you set it dangerously high? |
| 23:11.56 | stefan_schmidt | proberts: I don't think you can damage your hardware with it. But I never work with such stuff myself yet. :) |
| 23:11.56 | proberts | Let me see what the validation rtn looks a for max... |
| 23:12.03 | nh_home | proberts: I'd be careful with the voltage. Clockspeed probably isn't as dangerous but if you set it to high it may not boot. |
| 23:12.53 | blkhawk | oh? is the voltage set permanently or just until the next reboot? |
| 23:15.05 | proberts | Well, according to the source, you can set the core voltage anywhere from 0v-2v, but at max power, the preset is 1.3v (1.35 for sumatra) |
| 23:15.24 | nh_home | oh, I had assumed permanently. Nevermind me. :) |
| 23:15.40 | proberts | So I'm guessing 2v could really screw something up. |
| 23:16.34 | proberts | looks like the memory bus is fixed at 104Mhz |
| 23:19.05 | proberts | You can set the "turbo" clock multiplier as high as 6, which would be 624Mhz |
| 23:21.25 | blkhawk | 2v sounds high ya |
| 23:21.45 | blkhawk | but i would try up to 1,6 |
| 23:22.59 | proberts | oops... actually mem bus is fixed at 206Mhz, not 104. The LCD looks like it's fixed at 104Mhz. |
| 23:23.08 | proberts | s/206/208/ |
| 23:23.42 | proberts | there's a "fast_bus_mode" option on the Sumatra hw |
| 23:24.05 | florian | good night |
| 23:24.52 | proberts | blkhawk: Would you agree that the settings are reset on power cycle? |
| 23:25.11 | proberts | (at least mhz) |
| 23:26.00 | stefan_schmidt | night florian |
| 23:26.20 | proberts | bbl |
| 23:26.27 | stefan_schmidt | night all |
| 23:26.33 | proberts | stefan_schmit: later |
| 23:32.37 | dion | stefan_schmidt: bb |
| 23:47.20 | alphaone | dion: power off without tapisrv was checked |
| 23:47.44 | dion | ok |
| 23:51.15 | alphaone | dion: To turn antenna on or off tapisrv sends AT+FUN=1/0 to the bp |
| 23:51.55 | dion | hmm. so bp will be powered on |
| 23:59.29 | alphaone | Yes, bp will stay powered on |
| 23:59.39 | alphaone | Only the RF stuff will shut off. |
| 23:59.57 | alphaone | BP is needed for Battery info and other things |