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00:07.08jonwilhi
00:08.24jonwilROKR E2 source is out at https://opensource.motorola.com/sf/projects/rokre2
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05:17.52stefan_schmidtjonwil: thanks
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06:17.26stefan_schmidt132M    R564_G_12.02.31P.zip
06:21.35stefan_schmidthmm, apboot and atamux sounds interesting.
06:23.53stefan_schmidtMODULE_LICENSE("Copyright Motorola 2005");
06:24.02stefan_schmidtWhat a licence. :)
06:24.14stefan_schmidts/licence/license/
06:26.18stefan_schmidtapboot is just a renamed folder with the blob code.
06:30.54stefan_schmidtapboot/include/blob/HW_init.h and apboot/include/blob/SW_init.h are new.
06:32.26stefan_schmidtChanges in apboot/include/blob/arch/lubbock.h
06:33.14stefan_schmidt-#define KERNEL_FLASH_BASE  (0x20000)
06:33.14stefan_schmidt+#define KERNEL_FLASH_BASE  (0xa0800)
06:37.14stefan_schmidtAnd now some real code changes.
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06:39.18stefan_schmidthi _ynezz
06:39.20_ynezzhi, is it possible to buy Rokr E2 somewhere in Europe now? It's not even on ebay so I dunno
06:40.49_ynezzstefan_schmidt: hi
06:41.17stefan_schmidt_ynezz: I don't think so. You need tom import one.
06:41.45stefan_schmidtOr wait some more time and use ebay again.
06:42.20stefan_schmidthmm, HW_init.c and SW_init.c are to long to read during my work. ;)
06:43.09_ynezzwell, do you know some online store in asia from which I could buy one?
06:43.35_ynezzi've read, that laforge has one from GOME store, but couldnt find it online
06:44.08stefan_schmidtSo here are the reason why boot_usb don't work anymore. They removed bl_cmds_handler.{c,h}. As we guessed before.
06:44.39stefan_schmidt_ynezz: LaF0rge was in Shanghai and bought one in a reallife shop. :)
06:44.58stefan_schmidt_ynezz: I've never imported phones from asia, sorry.
06:45.13_ynezzk, thnx
06:45.47stefan_schmidt_ynezz: Perhaps you can make a deal with him to bring you another one from his next tip.
06:45.50stefan_schmidttrip
06:46.26_ynezzwow, this would be cool :)
06:46.32Kangkaimaybe I can buy one for you, I'm a Chinese.
06:47.11stefan_schmidtKangkai: Right, i totaly forgot this. :)
06:47.14_ynezzKangkai: btw. how much is e2 there?
06:47.48KangkaiI'm not quite sure, about 1900 RMB I think.
06:48.02stefan_schmidtIt seems they removed the whole flash code from blob. Again, as we guessed before. :(
06:48.23stefan_schmidtKangkai: What's that in $ or Euro?
06:49.04KangkaiAbout 250 $ I think. But I'm not sure about the exact price.
06:50.03stefan_schmidtKangkai: ok
06:50.03_ynezzhm, sounds very good :)
06:50.34stefan_schmidtapboot/src/blob/boot_modes.c could be interesting
06:50.55stefan_schmidt+/* structure note:
06:50.55stefan_schmidt+ This module includes all non-boot-linux boot modes in blob,
06:50.55stefan_schmidt+ such as flash, pass-through mode...etc*/
06:51.47KangkaiHi, _ynezz, you can find it in GOME. http://www.gome.com.cn/mall/product.jsp?Pid=136742&Area=51523
06:53.10_ynezznice, but i don't speak chinese :) and btw. do they ship to czech republic/europe? :p
06:53.23_ynezzthe price is 2080RMB right?
06:53.33KangkaiYear
06:53.35KangkaiYeah
06:54.17KangkaiAFAIK, E2 will ship to Europe in the future.
06:54.34_ynezzsure
06:55.54stefan_schmidtLaF0rge: BP handshake code from the new blob version. apboot/src/blob/handshake.c
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06:58.10stefan_schmidthi koen
06:58.33koenhey stefan_schmidt
07:00.17_ynezzkoen everywhere :)
07:03.23stefan_schmidt+                /* maybe here should NOT be a break */
07:03.23stefan_schmidt<PROTECTED>
07:03.25stefan_schmidtlol
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07:15.08stefan_schmidthi ao2
07:15.19ao2good morning
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07:25.25blkhawk[work]lo
07:25.59stefan_schmidthi blkhawk[work]
07:34.57jonwilsounds like what my moto contact said is true
07:35.10jonwilin that they use a new propriatory bootloader for ezx now
07:35.15jonwilwith blob on top of that
07:35.37koenso we can safely replace blob with our own version
07:36.07jonwilassuming one can figure out how to run code and unlock the flash and write stuff to it
07:36.28stefan_schmidtkoen: But not boot kernel via usb on the new phones.
07:37.07jonwilif we can replace blob safetly somehow, we can modify blob to boot kernel from memory card I would assume
07:37.43jonwilthe real question will come if they release a phone (if they havent already) containing protection against running unsigned code
07:38.01koenLaF0rge would sue their asses
07:38.19stefan_schmidtkoen: Yes, but this will take time...
07:43.16jonwilSome other interesting things, in sw_init.c of apboot
07:43.26jonwilI see reference to SUMATRA (which is E2 ROKR)
07:43.39jonwilI also see reference to HAINAN (which is A1200/Ming)
07:43.48jonwilplus MARTINIQUE and BARBADOS
07:43.58jonwilWhich I am assuming are unknown phones
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07:44.22stefan_schmidtjonwil: Do you know the codenames for A780/E680?
07:44.29jonwilno
07:44.44jonwilI dont think they even have codenames
07:45.00jonwilEverything I can see doing a search for MARTINIQUE and BARBADOS suggests that they are as yet unknown phones
07:45.07Hopscotchguten morgen
07:45.14koenhey Hopscotch
07:45.27jonwilif nothing else, blob for a1200 and e2 and these other 2 is totally different from blob for a780/e680
07:45.30stefan_schmidthi Hopscotch
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07:45.51koenstefan_schmidt: do we have a transcript of the ab<>bp communication when the phone shutsdown when booting 2.6 from flash?
07:45.55stefan_schmidthi neolynx
07:46.04stefan_schmidtkoen: no
07:46.18neolynxre
07:46.23neolynxhello stefan_schmidt
07:47.22stefan_schmidtkoen: I never looked what's the code status for this in ezx6
07:49.08stefan_schmidtjonwil: Yes. A780/E680 Power -> blob -> kernel, New phones: Power -> new boot code -> blob -> kernel
07:49.39jonwilI wonder what this MBM is that is referenced in e2 rokr code but not a780/e680i code
07:57.56jonwildo we know what the difference between e680(i) and e680g is?
07:58.29stefan_schmidtjonwil: games
07:59.52jonwilok
07:59.59jonwildoes anyone know what the a910 is?
08:00.01jonwilis it out yet?
08:01.02jonwilor the e895 or a732?
08:01.20jonwilare those last 2 current, future, recent or old/dead?
08:01.37stefan_schmidta910 not out yet.
08:01.53jonwilmaybe a910 is one of 2 unknown codenames
08:02.17stefan_schmidtperhaps
08:02.36jonwiland the other 2?
08:02.36stefan_schmidta732 is out. Haralds has one.
08:02.55stefan_schmidtI don't know about e895
08:03.09jonwilis a732 old or new?
08:03.15stefan_schmidtold
08:17.39jonwilWOAH, I just made a major discovery in E2 rokr kernel source. Open drivers\mtd\maps\bulverde.c and scroll down to the #ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_EZX_HAINAN line
08:17.45jonwilNotice the name: "ITUNES", line?
08:17.50jonwilThat implies that they are at least thinking about itunes on EZX
08:17.57jonwilat least thats my guess
08:18.04jonwilalso, check out the #ifdef CONFIG_ITUNES_SIDEBAND stuff in drivers\usbd\storage_fd\storage.c
08:18.11jonwillooks like its something to provide USB mass storage support that itunes can talk to
08:18.47koencute
08:19.13koenstefan_schmidt: does openezx use #ifdef machine or is_machine_e680() checks?
08:20.05koenhaving a multimachine kernel would rock
08:21.15stefan_schmidt#ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_EZX_A780
08:21.16koenor in moto "I have no spell check" speak: 'would RKR'
08:21.46stefan_schmidtwhy multimachine kernel?
08:22.49stefan_schmidtWhy should be we blow up the kernel size for different devices?
08:22.54koen"it work on a780, but not on a680" kind of problems
08:23.46stefan_schmidtperhaps it _can_ only work on a780. :)
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09:33.58koenhey _bambam
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09:44.39_bambamhi @ all
10:08.09LoneStarhi stefan_schmidt
10:08.17LoneStargood afternoon every1
10:21.59jonwilhas anyone heard of an ezx phone with 802.11 support?
10:22.12koenyes
10:22.17stefan_schmidtjonwil: A910 should have b/g
10:22.23koenthe a910
10:22.30jonwilcool
10:23.06jonwilI wonder if it will finally be the device everyones been talking about that can roam between GSM and WiFi without dropping your call
10:24.04koenthat's called mobile-ipv6
10:24.09koenhas been around for years :)
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12:52.18stefan_schmidtbye
13:40.32blkhawk[work]bye
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14:19.09nevolahii
15:02.30nh_workgood morning nevola
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22:24.28stefan_schmidtnight all
22:24.54nevolanight stefan
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