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| 05:10.56 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 13:16.21 | blkhawk[work] | hey - where is buying an a780 the ceapest? |
| 13:31.56 | mickeyl | ebay |
| 13:32.06 | mickeyl | there are also some selling new devices on ebay |
| 13:33.00 | stefan_schmidt | blkhawk[work]: ca. 280 Euro |
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| 14:37.43 | LaF0rge | if anyone needs phones, I think I can import some :) |
| 14:52.47 | stefan_schmidt | Perhaps. Do you have an idea aboput the prices? |
| 14:53.47 | [g2] | blkhawk[work] I got my A780 in the US for $262 |
| 14:54.40 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt I |
| 14:54.44 | [g2] | doh... |
| 14:55.14 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt I've been toying with kicking off a fund-raising program |
| 14:56.39 | [g2] | IMHO, with these phones for easily be 1 phone-top for every 3 children |
| 14:56.46 | [g2] | at $100 now |
| 14:56.46 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: For companies or people which like to donate? |
| 14:57.04 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt I'm more of a grass-roots guy |
| 14:57.21 | [g2] | I think people (like you and LaF0rge ) make a much bigger difference |
| 14:57.48 | [g2] | On nslu2-linux I think we raised something like 3-5K US over the last two years |
| 14:58.02 | [g2] | and we didn't really try hard at all |
| 14:58.08 | stefan_schmidt | Interesting |
| 14:58.31 | stefan_schmidt | Sorry, i have to leave now. (Date with girlfriend). |
| 14:58.37 | [g2] | hey np |
| 14:58.43 | koen | stefan_schmidt: enjoy |
| 14:58.45 | stefan_schmidt | I'll be back in some hours. We can discuss then. |
| 14:58.52 | stefan_schmidt | koen: Of course. :) |
| 14:59.03 | [g2] | girlfriends are good |
| 14:59.19 | [g2] | until they turn into wives |
| 14:59.32 | [g2] | then they get better :) |
| 15:11.09 | [g2] | ok it was around $3900 in the first year http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/DonationList |
| 15:11.25 | blkhawk[work] | oki works done :) |
| 15:26.49 | LaF0rge | old address is nat'ed, so everything should work as expected. |
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| 18:38.15 | stefan_schmidt | Ah, own /24. Fine. :) |
| 18:39.14 | koen | did anybody test the new mux_cli yet? |
| 18:40.03 | stefan_schmidt | koen: LaF0rge already released the started port for 2.6? |
| 18:40.41 | koen | iirc he did: http://svn.openezx.org/trunk/src/kernel-2.6/mux_cli/ |
| 18:43.30 | stefan_schmidt | koen: IIRC this is the version he started to reverse engineer. Before moto released the the 2.4 driver code. |
| 18:43.39 | koen | ah |
| 18:43.43 | koen | that explains the stubs |
| 18:45.07 | stefan_schmidt | yes. Once we have a patchset release with integrated mux_cli we should remove the old stuff. |
| 18:45.18 | stefan_schmidt | Or at least comment it. |
| 18:49.12 | koen | I'm curious if the new mux_cli is going to aid us in the ap<>bp shutdown problem |
| 18:50.07 | blkhawk | hmmm - just hada thought |
| 18:50.43 | blkhawk | wouldn't it be good is the BP would detect if the ap crashed - so maybe the bp is missing a keepalive signal from the ap? |
| 18:50.49 | blkhawk | just a thought :P |
| 18:51.25 | koen | if it does, it is not doing its job |
| 18:51.44 | koen | my phone crashes if I plug it in the my powerbook and try to access the tf card |
| 18:51.57 | blkhawk | ah |
| 18:52.00 | koen | I'd expect the BP to reboot it |
| 18:52.05 | blkhawk | as i said i could be wrong |
| 18:52.08 | blkhawk | ya |
| 18:52.12 | koen | could be it isn't completely crashed |
| 18:52.28 | blkhawk | and the keepalive is still send? |
| 18:52.50 | blkhawk | possible |
| 19:09.36 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: How does the whole paypal thing work? |
| 19:10.16 | stefan_schmidt | Setting up account, who gets the donated money? |
| 19:10.39 | symlink | stefan_schmidt: George W. Bush |
| 19:11.30 | stefan_schmidt | symlink: Perhaps, but luckily wrong country. |
| 19:12.09 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: Just a developer who is trusted by the project? |
| 19:12.09 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt you setup an account and ppl send money :) |
| 19:12.46 | [g2] | well we had a trusted developer and accounted for all the money recieved and spent |
| 19:13.23 | [g2] | s/recieved/received/ |
| 19:13.34 | [g2] | kinda like open source :) |
| 19:13.41 | stefan_schmidt | :) |
| 19:14.46 | stefan_schmidt | Sound like a good idea. LaF0rge any objections? |
| 19:16.56 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt the other fund raising idea I had was doing a development DVD that's got everything on it |
| 19:17.39 | [g2] | basically, a ubuntu livecd with all the stuff to run OE and all the metadata and prebuilt images |
| 19:18.22 | [g2] | I've got that now for the A780 building bootstrap-image, gpe-image, opie-image and opie-image under qemuarm |
| 19:18.41 | [g2] | gpe-image under qemuarm isn't happy yet |
| 19:19.28 | [g2] | but basically for $9 to $19 US depending one could the a DVD that runs everything out-of-the-box and doubles as a backup |
| 19:19.57 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: I don't think it is a good idea to let developer sponsor the project with money. They should sponsor code. :) |
| 19:19.58 | [g2] | I was thinking about sending some money to OE |
| 19:20.40 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt sure, but really there's about 1000 levels of developers |
| 19:21.17 | blkhawk | for instance me.... I'm at the cannot be bothered to boot linux and install OE level |
| 19:21.22 | blkhawk | :P |
| 19:21.31 | [g2] | blkhawk right |
| 19:21.42 | [g2] | or there are windows users than don't have a linux machine |
| 19:22.15 | [g2] | actually we could torrent the thing too |
| 19:22.24 | blkhawk | if i knew i could start up bochs or vmware and have everything ready to compile i would probably work on porting stuff a bit each day |
| 19:22.34 | blkhawk | there are a few apps i would like to see ported |
| 19:22.49 | blkhawk | and a few tools i would like to be created |
| 19:23.18 | [g2] | blkhawk nod, that's the point of being an enabler for others from my perspective |
| 19:24.04 | [g2] | basically, pushing down the barrier to entry or allowing ppl to focus more on what they need/want to do |
| 19:24.15 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: The idea with the livd cd is good, but of course donationes should be done only, if people like to donate. |
| 19:24.24 | blkhawk | right now I am so busy with other off-work jobs that I don't have the energy left to spend 5 hours or so til i get a toolchain running |
| 19:24.54 | [g2] | blkhawk right this would all be pre-built or you could built automatically overnight |
| 19:25.03 | blkhawk | i probably schould stop wining and just do it |
| 19:25.23 | blkhawk | heh since i run gentoo u'm familiar with that procedure ;) |
| 19:26.35 | [g2] | blkhawk this is a reference from the openezx wiki I put up there: http://www.giantshoulderinc.com:8001/wiki/wiki/OpenEmbeddedOnDapper |
| 19:26.58 | [g2] | I've been remastering Ubuntu LiveCDs with the extra bits on it |
| 19:27.14 | [g2] | it'd be pretty trivial to do the whole she-bang |
| 19:27.29 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt it's my turn to run :) |
| 19:27.39 | [g2] | but thanks for chatting (others too) |
| 19:27.39 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: cu later |
| 19:27.53 | [g2] | you know I'm in here often |
| 19:27.54 | blkhawk | heh bye [g2] |
| 19:28.06 | blkhawk | the channel is pleasantly full now |
| 19:28.22 | blkhawk | In the biginning i worried a bit about it |
| 19:28.53 | [g2] | this was about the size when I was in #openwrt |
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| 19:29.19 | [g2] | now there's > 200 in that channel |
| 19:31.13 | blkhawk | so you are like a lucky talisman :P |
| 19:33.56 | [g2] | heh, no I'm just often early :) |
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| 19:51.48 | mickey|bbl | i need to find time to add WRT support into OE |
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