| 00:15.25 | xaffer | I can't samba to the phone from Fedora Core 5 (only support for cifs). Any ideas ? |
| 00:15.58 | xaffer | (p.s) Its been just two weeks since i switched over to linux on my desktop. |
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| 07:16.25 | _bambam | moin |
| 07:21.01 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 07:41.45 | ao2 | good morning |
| 07:48.03 | _bambam | hmm, since there's a CF-interface in the phone, couldn't we be able to use wlan over this? |
| 07:48.13 | _bambam | like on zaurus? |
| 07:58.50 | LaF0rge | CF interface? |
| 07:59.19 | LaF0rge | where do you think that interface is? |
| 07:59.45 | _bambam | # PCMCIA/CompactFlash interface (not used) |
| 07:59.49 | LaF0rge | usb-master mode with wlan-usb-stick seems still the best option for those in need of 802.11 |
| 08:00.07 | _bambam | it's on the wiki |
| 08:00.15 | LaF0rge | bambam: it's just a 'virtual component' inside the PXA270, nothing that has any connector ;) |
| 08:00.36 | _bambam | LaF0rge: k, was jus wonderin as i read it |
| 08:06.52 | LaF0rge | feel free to clarify this in the wiki |
| 08:08.15 | _bambam | hmm, why aren't the module-ipks are merged per dafault? |
| 08:08.21 | _bambam | s/dafault/default? |
| 08:13.12 | stefan_schmidt | gug |
| 08:20.09 | LaF0rge | bambam: because the modules occopy lots of space |
| 08:23.04 | _bambam | /dev/mmcblk0p1 468.4M 51.1M 393.1M 12% /media/mmcblk0p1 |
| 08:23.10 | _bambam | lots of space ;) |
| 08:23.22 | _bambam | modules allready merged now |
| 08:24.34 | _bambam | LaF0rge: from where comes the defconfig-a780, so i can use me own? |
| 08:25.15 | _bambam | or is this the laforge-config.patch? |
| 08:29.02 | LaF0rge | bambam: it's not in that patch. the defconfig is the one that comes with the original motorola sources, adopted for 2.6.x |
| 08:29.12 | LaF0rge | don't think that old defconfig is needed anymore |
| 08:30.16 | _bambam | ah ok, but when i want to build with my own config i jus need to update your config.patch? |
| 08:30.35 | _bambam | in patches-2.6.16-2.6.16.13-exz6-symlink-fix.tar.bz2 |
| 08:34.32 | stefan_schmidt | _bambam: You can just modify .config and build. |
| 08:35.42 | _bambam | stefan_schmidt: hmm, usin bitbake? |
| 08:36.00 | _bambam | stefan_schmidt: isn't workin here, unless i clean the package before |
| 08:36.12 | stefan_schmidt | ah, you are talking about oe |
| 08:36.18 | _bambam | yes |
| 08:36.55 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl and the other oe guys should help you. |
| 08:53.08 | _bambam | stefan_schmidt: <oe-dir>/org.oe.dev/packages/linux/linux-ezx/defconfig-a780 did the trick :) |
| 09:36.50 | _bambam | hmm, wasn't the keypad-module supposed to compile? |
| 09:48.44 | mickeyl | good morning |
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| 10:07.05 | mickeyl | wb stefan |
| 10:08.24 | stefan_schmidt | But no other DSL option in my village. :( |
| 10:08.44 | _bambam | heh, happy-daily-reconnects |
| 10:11.04 | ao2 | mmh, native IPv6, yum yum |
| 10:13.27 | _bambam | ao2: beware this is nothin fi eat ;) |
| 10:15.43 | ao2 | you sure, _bambam ? |
| 10:16.39 | ao2 | geeks can eat almost anything |
| 10:16.59 | _bambam | heh, then enjoy |
| 10:17.56 | ao2 | it's just that 128bit addresses are a bit hard to "digest" |
| 10:22.38 | _bambam | i'll definitly stick with meat ;) |
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| 10:55.01 | AndiM | hi guys! going to test a first rootfs on E680 soon... :) |
| 10:58.55 | stefan_schmidt | AndiM: have fun |
| 10:59.35 | AndiM | but not sure whether there will be a lot of time for development. don't even have a toolchain yet. |
| 11:00.56 | AndiM | hmm, touchscreen results on E680 are broken? oh well, I'll see what happens with an existing kernel plus rootfs... |
| 11:01.34 | AndiM | and how much of a chance of booting E680 do I have anyway? A lot of stuff seems geared towards A780 support. |
| 11:05.00 | stefan_schmidt | E690 should work fine. |
| 11:05.19 | stefan_schmidt | Waht kind of rootfs? Debian or oe? |
| 11:09.05 | AndiM | stefan_schmidt: I'll try the new experimental oe one, I think. |
| 11:09.25 | AndiM | (but indeed, I should also fetch Harald's Debian image) |
| 11:10.43 | stefan_schmidt | IIRC mickey|lunch has had some problems with booting the rootfs from SD card. But he told it works with nfsroot |
| 11:13.37 | AndiM | yup, some IRC log mentioned SD issues on E680 (but I thought it was supposed to work on E680, as opposed to non-working A780!?). Strange... |
| 11:19.24 | stefan_schmidt | We had problems with the A780 transflash at the beginning. Works fine for me now. |
| 11:19.45 | stefan_schmidt | But i don't have an E680, so i can't test atm |
| 11:21.29 | AndiM | but if touchscreen results are broken, then getting that corrected could be a nice little project. |
| 11:23.10 | stefan_schmidt | AndiM: You've done kernel hacking before? |
| 11:31.54 | AndiM | stefan_schmidt: acx100 WLAN, sound drivers, network drivers, misc. |
| 11:36.33 | stefan_schmidt | nice. I think harald like to see some helping hands for kernel devel |
| 11:36.50 | AndiM | but like I said, time... |
| 11:38.09 | stefan_schmidt | :) |
| 12:03.27 | mickeyl | AndiM: yeah, touchscreen is currently broken on e680 |
| 12:04.48 | AndiM | mickeyl: any specifics? |
| 12:05.48 | mickeyl | no |
| 12:06.00 | mickeyl | i didn't look into it in more detail |
| 12:06.18 | mickeyl | it wasn't interesting for me yet as I'm concentrating on drivers atm. |
| 12:06.39 | mickeyl | one could debug it with the debug output |
| 12:06.50 | AndiM | oook. so that's something that I might peek into |
| 12:07.15 | mickeyl | that'd be cool. the ts presses are registered, it's probably just some different values or logics that needs to be added to the routine, since it works fine on a780 |
| 12:07.21 | AndiM | so it's returning values, but those values are distorted? systematically? |
| 12:07.43 | mickeyl | ts up/down is a problem iirc |
| 12:08.27 | AndiM | good. no promises since I need to get up all that basic crap first, but then... |
| 12:09.02 | mickeyl | sure. cool |
| 12:10.01 | [g2] | mickeyl how do you get the TF card out of the phone ? |
| 12:10.18 | [g2] | or am I just being a wus and not pulling hard enough ? |
| 12:10.20 | AndiM | mickeyl: quick hints how to enable ts debug? |
| 12:10.44 | mickeyl | boot the kernel in OE |
| 12:10.56 | mickeyl | s/in/from/ |
| 12:11.09 | mickeyl | that one appends "debug" to the CMDLINE |
| 12:11.14 | mickeyl | which makes the ts debug appear |
| 12:11.23 | AndiM | huuuhaeh!? |
| 12:11.26 | [g2] | Ahhh... it's a push to release |
| 12:11.48 | mickeyl | [g2] yeah, TF is nasty |
| 12:11.58 | mickeyl | i switched to nfsroot for developing |
| 12:12.05 | mickeyl | i don't want to insert/remove the TF anymore |
| 12:12.31 | [g2] | mickeyl I guess I've got the euro firmware as the mode=99 errors |
| 12:12.44 | AndiM | mickeyl: sorry, I'm not too familiar with OE yet, where exactly to boot a new kernel there? does OE include a custom-run bootloader or what? |
| 12:12.46 | [g2] | so I'll need to at least use the TF to get linloader going |
| 12:13.02 | mickeyl | [g2]: ah you want to tinker with the stock firmware |
| 12:13.24 | [g2] | mickeyl no, I'd like to boot the OE rootfs |
| 12:13.37 | mickeyl | [g2]: uhm... why linloader then? |
| 12:14.03 | mickeyl | AndiM: just append "debug" to the kernel CMDLINE. the kernels built using OE already do that |
| 12:14.05 | [g2] | mickeyl I thought I needed shell to load that |
| 12:14.15 | mickeyl | [g2]: nah. you boot via usb |
| 12:14.22 | mickeyl | enter bootloader |
| 12:14.25 | mickeyl | attach usb cable |
| 12:14.25 | [g2] | with the stock kernel ? |
| 12:14.34 | mickeyl | run "ezx-boot-usb zImage" |
| 12:14.35 | mickeyl | volia |
| 12:15.15 | AndiM | mickeyl: k |
| 12:15.30 | [g2] | mickeyl I'll pull the latest OE stuff and build it all |
| 12:15.36 | [g2] | I'm a couple days old |
| 12:15.41 | mickeyl | hehe, sure |
| 12:15.41 | [g2] | like 2 |
| 12:15.47 | stefan_schmidt | the stock kernel and flash are completely untouched. |
| 12:15.51 | [g2] | mickeyl where is that on the wiki ? |
| 12:15.59 | stefan_schmidt | Only tf is used |
| 12:16.09 | [g2] | I've been looking around the wiki but didn't see that |
| 12:16.24 | mickeyl | http://wiki.openezx.org/Bootloader |
| 12:17.43 | stefan_schmidt | More exactly: http://wiki.openezx.org/Bootloader#Booting_your_own_kernel ;) |
| 12:19.22 | stefan_schmidt | And yes, the wiki needs to updated and clarified. Anybody? |
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| 12:29.12 | AndiM | mickeyl: just added my theory on the bootloader bootup flags values on the wiki ;) |
| 12:34.47 | mickeyl | excellent. more input = good |
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| 12:38.18 | [g2] | mickeyl stefan_schmidt koen I've got a Dapper Livecd that builds openezx |
| 12:40.29 | mickeyl | cool. could you announce that somewhere to download? |
| 12:41.18 | [g2] | mickeyl I'm talking with the nslu2-linux guys right now about putting an ISO on OSU |
| 12:42.34 | [g2] | mickeyl the real question is how do we want the "users" to access the monotone metadata |
| 12:43.11 | [g2] | I suggest we setup a tiny OE setup for openezx and the have ppl SVN/rsync that setup |
| 12:43.48 | mickeyl | LaF0rge wanted to setup a publically available OE build host |
| 12:43.52 | [g2] | the livecd runs the full version and builds openezx, all the nslu2-linux stuff and angstrom |
| 12:44.30 | [g2] | mickeyl I could probably set that up for a couple months |
| 12:44.59 | [g2] | but really it's totally trivial with the Livecd and a persistent root |
| 12:45.10 | [g2] | s/root/home/ |
| 12:48.47 | mickeyl | in the present state of openezx development i think it would be best to just enable people to mt pull && mt update to get updated metadata |
| 12:49.03 | mickeyl | when it slows down, we could use other means |
| 12:49.34 | mickeyl | but until we are updating so fast, it'd be best to directly work with the tree |
| 12:49.37 | [g2] | mickeyl I think that's fine for developers |
| 12:50.07 | [g2] | however the question is about adding users/testers |
| 12:50.27 | mickeyl | in the present state I don't see how a user can be a tester |
| 12:50.39 | mickeyl | later, yes |
| 12:51.49 | [g2] | well here's what I think could be done now |
| 12:52.06 | [g2] | pull the livecd and boot to a persistent home on a disk partition |
| 12:52.16 | [g2] | dl the metadata and build |
| 12:52.21 | mickeyl | right |
| 12:52.33 | [g2] | plug the phone in press the two keys and boot to linux |
| 12:52.52 | [g2] | two keys being jog and capture right |
| 12:53.07 | mickeyl | jog,capture,on |
| 12:53.18 | [g2] | right you need the on for the power up |
| 12:53.53 | [g2] | and the script needs to be running or gets run after that |
| 12:54.34 | [g2] | but really, in my mind ppl could get started that easily |
| 12:54.55 | [g2] | it's really more of a question of develop load from the additional testers/users |
| 12:55.04 | [g2] | and really /developers |
| 12:55.35 | [g2] | as there are plenty of devs interested, but having the full setup totally simplified would help them out |
| 12:55.53 | [g2] | just MHO |
| 12:56.41 | mickeyl | sure. and monotone pull && monotone update could be added into the script |
| 12:56.52 | mickeyl | i just don't see how not using monotone makes it any eaiser |
| 12:56.55 | mickeyl | easier, even |
| 12:58.05 | [g2] | mickeyl IMHO the OE metadata changes too much for users and even something like devs for openezx |
| 12:58.30 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt LaF0rge _bambam probably don't care about 99% of the changes in OE |
| 12:58.40 | [g2] | as there are nearly 3500 packages |
| 12:58.55 | [g2] | the cut done loft build only uses 109 |
| 12:59.24 | [g2] | i'd imagine the openezx would use about the same or in the range of 100-150 |
| 12:59.41 | [g2] | basically we are talking about 3% of the metadata |
| 12:59.53 | [g2] | or 97% that not needed |
| 13:00.06 | mickeyl | *shrug* fine with me. as long as you don't recommend branching off or something like that |
| 13:00.07 | [g2] | it's a great simplification |
| 13:00.41 | [g2] | no I'm just recommending a stable snapshot |
| 13:00.59 | [g2] | or a current working snapshot |
| 13:01.01 | mickeyl | the problem with stable snapshots is... they're stable |
| 13:01.11 | mickeyl | how are people supposed to keep track with updates? |
| 13:01.33 | [g2] | simple trac server with openezx changes |
| 13:01.55 | [g2] | it's a communication issue however you look at it |
| 13:02.44 | [g2] | mickeyl how about this for a start |
| 13:02.58 | [g2] | we use the full monotone db for now |
| 13:03.27 | [g2] | if few use OE then it doesn't matter or of many use it and want something streamlined then we can do that |
| 13:03.37 | [g2] | sound like a plan ? |
| 13:03.41 | mickeyl | sounds good to me. |
| 13:03.52 | [g2] | it gets even easier too. |
| 13:04.29 | [g2] | I'll put a script on the wiki that ppl can use the default Dapper Livecd and just pull the extra stuff if they wish |
| 13:04.41 | [g2] | they'll have to do that everytime they reboot |
| 13:04.47 | [g2] | or install |
| 13:04.54 | mickeyl | cool |
| 13:08.29 | AndiM | [g2]: "but having the full setup |
| 13:08.34 | AndiM | +totally simplified would help them out" - you bet! |
| 13:14.11 | mickeyl | bbl |
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| 14:28.34 | xaffer | Morning :) |
| 14:39.11 | [g2] | gug |
| 15:21.08 | xaffer | mickeyl. I replied to your post on motorolafans about the LED. please update us if it works. |
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| 17:01.54 | [g2] | mickey|bbiab LaF0rge FYI I think the exz-boot-usb-native-svn is linking to the system libusb instead of the one built by OE |
| 17:11.53 | [g2] | sweetness I'm getting very close |
| 17:12.30 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt when booting the new kernel one needs a new rootfs on transflash by default right ? |
| 17:13.07 | [g2] | I just booted the OE built kernel on the A780, but I don't thing I had the rootfs setup on the transflash |
| 17:13.16 | [g2] | and damn that print is small :) |
| 17:16.07 | [g2] | this is really just too sweet |
| 17:17.07 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: yes, the standard CONFIG_CMDLINE uses SD/TF as rootfs |
| 17:17.58 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt I've got the image built by OE and a TF |
| 17:18.06 | [g2] | so I just need to load that up |
| 17:18.22 | [g2] | I'd guess ext2/3 on the first partition ? |
| 17:19.01 | stefan_schmidt | yes. First partition, ext3 |
| 17:20.01 | stefan_schmidt | i never buld an oe rootfs on my own, just untar's mickey's on the card. |
| 17:35.08 | [g2-build] | did I say SWEET yet ? ;) |
| 17:35.34 | [g2-build] | stefan_schmidt: I've got the a780 login: prompt on the phone |
| 17:36.50 | stefan_schmidt | congrats |
| 17:37.41 | [g2-build] | well one last thing with is logging in :) |
| 17:37.51 | [g2-build] | s/with/which/ |
| 17:40.42 | [g2-build] | need to take down the 192.168.1.x net to log in bb soon |
| 17:43.02 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt LaF0rge mickey|bbiab koen congrats on your great work |
| 17:43.08 | [g2] | I'm ssh'ed in |
| 17:43.25 | [g2] | from the "build box" |
| 17:44.25 | [g2] | LaF0rge which device is the internal flash mtdblock(0-n) ? |
| 17:46.26 | LaF0rge | g2: the intel strataflash, included in the pxa270 package |
| 17:56.35 | [g2] | LaF0rge I was looking to fully backup tghe intel strataflash |
| 17:56.51 | [g2] | I was expecting to find something like /dev/mtdblock0 |
| 17:57.09 | [g2] | but it appears the on-board flash is not mapped in |
| 17:57.55 | [g2] | or you may just be saying it's accessed by the pxa270 package |
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| 18:22.05 | simonnei | hi! my a780 is dead. I would like to know if the whole phone is dead or yust the akku. but it doesnt boot, with or without akku. What is the normal behavior without akku? does the phone work if connected to 230V? |
| 18:24.08 | stefan_schmidt | simonnei: Moment, i test it for you. |
| 18:25.02 | [g2] | simonnei my battery ran out while I was testing |
| 18:25.20 | [g2] | plugging it in "brought it back" |
| 18:25.52 | stefan_schmidt | simonnei: boots fine without akku. |
| 18:26.03 | stefan_schmidt | :( |
| 18:26.11 | simonnei | stefan_schmidt: thank you. |
| 18:26.44 | stefan_schmidt | np |
| 18:27.19 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt there's nothing special in the boot-ezx that's related to the IP add right ? |
| 18:27.39 | [g2] | meaning I can change /etc/network/interfaces on the TF and boot to a different subnet |
| 18:28.26 | [g2] | simonnei I'm sorry to hear about the phone not being well |
| 18:28.53 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: never tries, but should work |
| 18:29.32 | simonnei | i write an wiki article about the exact behavior. |
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| 18:33.14 | [g2-build] | ah.. that's better |
| 18:33.28 | [g2-build] | now the A780 is on a different subnet |
| 18:34.58 | [g2-build] | stefan_schmidt: I didn't reboot but did an ifdown usb0; ifup usb0 with /etc/network/interfaces changed |
| 18:35.15 | [g2-build] | then I just reconfigued on the host side |
| 18:35.21 | [g2-build] | and I'm back in |
| 18:35.43 | [g2-build] | I imagine it'll work fine from coldboot |
| 18:37.37 | [g2-build] | after a shutdown -h do you have to pull the battery ? |
| 18:43.11 | [g2-build] | maybe a shutdown -r would have been better |
| 18:48.13 | stefan_schmidt | most of the time i run out of battery before i can halt. :) |
| 18:48.36 | simonnei | http://wiki.openezx.org/DeadPhones |
| 18:50.50 | simonnei | I bought the phone on 2006-05-20, so I should be able to return the phone, I hope. |
| 18:51.23 | [g2-build] | the -r works much better |
| 18:52.40 | stefan_schmidt | simonnei: You should have luck with the warranty. Just tell them the phone want boot. |
| 18:54.01 | [g2-build] | simonnei: what part of the world are you in ? |
| 18:54.11 | simonnei | Switzerland |
| 18:54.20 | stefan_schmidt | But it is not nice that this happened during use of ezx |
| 18:54.44 | simonnei | stefan_schmidt: doesnt have to be related... |
| 18:55.03 | [g2-build] | stefan_schmidt: no it's not, but many things could have happened |
| 18:55.20 | simonnei | stefan_schmidt: and at this point, the phone was still running, yust the akku was empty. |
| 18:55.21 | stefan_schmidt | [g2-build]: of course |
| 18:56.09 | [g2-build] | what is the akku btw |
| 18:56.22 | simonnei | is it normal that the akku gets empty, connectet to usb and running 2.6.16? |
| 18:56.29 | simonnei | akku = battery |
| 18:56.36 | [g2-build] | ahh |
| 18:56.44 | simonnei | (I'm not a nativ english speaker) |
| 18:56.55 | stefan_schmidt | simonnei: Yes, the BP charge the battery. |
| 18:56.57 | simonnei | I will change that in the wiki |
| 18:57.34 | stefan_schmidt | atm we are not able to let him carge the battery. |
| 18:58.07 | stefan_schmidt | Also there is know powermanagement running |
| 18:58.32 | simonnei | hmm... yust bougt the phone, I charged the battery in the bootloader. |
| 18:58.49 | simonnei | I never fully booted the original firmware |
| 18:59.22 | simonnei | (when I forgot to hold the blob-keys, I turned off the phone before it finished booting) |
| 19:02.00 | stefan_schmidt | I wondering why it should die during 4 days of doing nothing. strange. |
| 19:02.48 | simonnei | some sort of "underpowering"? |
| 19:03.26 | simonnei | is there any memory that needs power when turned off? |
| 19:06.07 | stefan_schmidt | I don't think so. |
| 19:06.51 | stefan_schmidt | The only problem i run into was, that you are not able to charge from your usb port if the battery is total empty. |
| 19:07.17 | stefan_schmidt | Charging from car/230V works fine. |
| 19:40.58 | simonnei | It's party time. |
| 19:41.09 | simonnei | the phone is charging now. |
| 19:41.27 | file | A780 for sale... A780 for sale... |
| 19:41.27 | file | :D |
| 19:41.41 | simonnei | I tried another socket. |
| 19:41.45 | stefan_schmidt | simonnei: yeah |
| 19:42.05 | simonnei | I already tried another socket before, without success. |
| 19:42.19 | simonnei | no idea why its working now. |
| 19:43.06 | simonnei | other electrical things work on all both sockets, i tried it to ensure the sockets work correctly. |
| 19:43.21 | stefan_schmidt | hmm |
| 19:43.28 | simonnei | maybe the charger has a broken wire or something like that. |
| 19:44.25 | stefan_schmidt | simonnei: Do you use an adapter for the switzerland socket system? |
| 19:44.48 | simonnei | no, it fits correctly in the socket. |
| 19:44.53 | stefan_schmidt | ok |
| 19:45.05 | simonnei | it doesnt have "protection earth". |
| 19:45.17 | file | oh, a ground |
| 19:45.27 | stefan_schmidt | ah, i forget this. |
| 19:45.40 | simonnei | apart from protection earth, Switzerland sockets and German Sockets are the same, I think. |
| 19:46.58 | stefan_schmidt | file: I've seen a bounty of 300$ for a working AIX client on the phone. at motofans. ;) |
| 19:47.13 | file | you mean IAX? |
| 19:47.20 | stefan_schmidt | ups, yes |
| 19:47.28 | file | coooooool |
| 19:47.49 | stefan_schmidt | So perhaps you are to fast to sell your phone. ;) |
| 19:47.58 | file | meh |
| 19:48.47 | simonnei | I make a bounty of 3000$ if IBM ports AIX to A780 ;-) |
| 19:49.04 | simonnei | thank everyone for your great help. |
| 19:49.09 | stefan_schmidt | simonnei: It would be interesting what happened. But the most important thing is your phone is still alive. |
| 19:49.22 | simonnei | yes, definitely. |
| 19:50.20 | simonnei | I was yust about to package everything together to send back, and then I gave it a last try. |
| 19:50.32 | file | it actually wouldn't be too hard to make an IAX phone for the A780 |
| 19:50.34 | simonnei | (tied it a dozen of times before...) |
| 19:50.50 | [g2-build] | the A780 rocks |
| 19:51.03 | [g2-build] | with open-source of course :) |
| 19:51.50 | [g2] | I've been looking at the wiki and imagining it'd be pretty easy to play audio from flac file out to speakers connected by the headset plug |
| 19:52.13 | [g2] | or actually stream audio over BT to the phone from another BT device |
| 19:52.49 | simonnei | linux 2.4, compiled from motorola sources, does the communication with the BP work? Or is that part of the kernel code not included in the source provided by motorola? |
| 19:53.38 | stefan_schmidt | Moto offered the source for mux_cli now. |
| 19:53.48 | simonnei | [g2] I didnt tried flac, but i was able to play ogg with libtremor. |
| 19:53.58 | stefan_schmidt | But i think nobody have tried to build a fully working 2.4 kernel from source. |
| 19:54.26 | [g2] | simonnei neat |
| 19:54.33 | stefan_schmidt | simonnei: How was the performance with ogg? |
| 19:54.52 | simonnei | playing real-time. |
| 19:55.03 | simonnei | I didnt made any benchmarks. |
| 19:55.20 | [g2] | simonnei do you know if libtremor uses the fixed point assemblly routines ? |
| 19:55.21 | stefan_schmidt | ok, real-time is a good start point |
| 19:55.37 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt is there a performance page on the wiki at all ? |
| 19:55.54 | simonnei | but a A780 playing penguinplanet.ogg is nice ;-) |
| 19:56.55 | simonnei | libogg/libvorbis work too, but ways to slow. |
| 19:56.58 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: No. First get it work, optimize afterwards. |
| 19:57.13 | simonnei | libogg uses fpu, whereas libtremor uses only int |
| 19:57.18 | simonnei | thats the difference. |
| 19:57.47 | simonnei | [g2] libtremor doesnt use the fpu. |
| 19:58.32 | simonnei | [g2]: hmm... do you meen fixed point or floating point? |
| 19:58.51 | [g2] | simonnei fixed point |
| 19:59.24 | [g2] | simonnei some others have run on the IXP42x XScale using those libs for audio and it may a huge difference |
| 19:59.51 | [g2] | simonnei you're running stuff built with OE right ? |
| 20:00.15 | simonnei | [g2] apart from the ogg stuff, yes. |
| 20:00.32 | simonnei | [g2]: this is my second a780 |
| 20:00.34 | [g2] | ok |
| 20:01.22 | simonnei | [g2] libtremor and libmad i tried on the first one a half year ago, on the motorola kernel. |
| 20:01.53 | simonnei | [g2]: I was using buildroot at this time. |
| 20:02.28 | simonnei | [g2]: The Tremor decoder library is an integer-only fully Ogg Vorbis compliant |
| 20:02.31 | simonnei | software decoder library. |
| 20:02.41 | simonnei | http://www.freshports.org/audio/libtremor |
| 20:02.57 | simonnei | thats everything I know about it. |
| 20:03.10 | [g2] | looks like the iwmmx instructions would be well suited for the audio encode/decode and codecs |
| 20:03.16 | simonnei | I yust compiled the lib, dont know how it works internalyl. |
| 20:03.33 | [g2] | simonnei np thanks for all the info |
| 20:04.05 | [g2] | there are lots of ppl out there and between us all amazing things happen |
| 20:09.57 | [g2] | mickey|bbiab it looks like OE tunes for XScale armv5te but now iwmmx on the a780 machine, correct ? |
| 20:10.04 | [g2] | s/now/not/ |
| 20:26.23 | simonnei | how do I delete http://wiki.openezx.org/DeadPhones ? The Article doesnt makes sense anymore now. |
| 20:27.13 | [g2-build] | exit |
| 20:27.16 | [g2-build] | heh |
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| 20:27.49 | stefan_schmidt | simonnei: Only admins can delete pages. Hopscotch and LaF0rge are admins. |
| 20:31.33 | stefan_schmidt | simonnei: You can start with delete the references. |
| 20:31.45 | simonnei | stefan_schmidt: done,. |
| 20:32.44 | simonnei | I wrote in http://wiki.openezx.org/Talk:DeadPhones "I wrote this article a bit to fast. The phone is working again (still I dont know the reason), so there is no need for this Article anymore. Please delete it." |
| 20:33.27 | stefan_schmidt | Hopscotch, LaF0rge: Can a wiki admin please delete http://wiki.openezx.org/Talk:DeadPhones? |
| 21:21.45 | stefan_schmidt | night |
| 21:33.37 | simonnei | bye |
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