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| 07:41.30 | ao2 | good morning | 
| 07:43.02 | webmind | good morning | 
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| 08:26.43 | LaF0rge | hi ao2, webmind, jonwil | 
| 08:26.50 | jonwil | hi | 
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| 08:39.31 | Hopscotch | good morning | 
| 08:42.22 | blkhawk | MOrning | 
| 08:54.59 | stefan_schmidt | moin moin | 
| 09:37.08 | jonwil | any news to report? | 
| 09:38.54 | stefan_schmidt | if you follow the maillinglist, nothing. | 
| 09:39.14 | jonwil | ok :) | 
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| 10:28.08 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|zzZZzz: Connecting to ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl|130.89.145.130|:80... failed: Connection refused. | 
| 10:41.54 | LaF0rge | SRC_URI ? | 
| 10:42.37 | stefan_schmidt | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE.db.bz2 | 
| 10:42.45 | stefan_schmidt | EO database | 
| 10:43.38 | LaF0rge | what about it? | 
| 10:44.06 | LaF0rge | does it contain build fixes compared to the original one? | 
| 10:44.37 | stefan_schmidt | No. I thought you mean me with your SRC_URI question | 
| 10:45.15 | stefan_schmidt | I get a connection refused, if i try to download the normal OE database | 
| 10:45.39 | LaF0rge | no, mickeyl said something about "I'll try to fix the SRC_URI tomorrow if laforge cannot fix it upstrea" | 
| 10:45.42 | LaF0rge | or something like that | 
| 10:45.52 | stefan_schmidt | ah, you are talking about that. | 
| 10:46.28 | stefan_schmidt | He liake to have a fixed verion of ezx6. | 
| 10:46.37 | stefan_schmidt | symlink bug | 
| 10:47.09 | stefan_schmidt | I think he will use ezx6 to build automaticly within oe | 
| 10:47.25 | stefan_schmidt | So he chance the SRC_URI to a fixed version | 
| 10:48.57 | stefan_schmidt | i upload a fixed version for him. | 
| 10:54.41 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|zzZZzz: You can use this URI for oe | 
| 10:54.44 | stefan_schmidt | http://people.openezx.org/stefan/patches/patches-2.6.16-2.6.16.13-exz6-symlink-fix.tar.bz2 | 
| 10:55.14 | stefan_schmidt | it's only a path fixed version. nothing more | 
| 11:01.57 | mickeyl | yawn | 
| 11:01.59 | mickeyl | thanks stefan | 
| 11:02.25 | mickeyl | yes, starting with ezx6 i use the complete patchset instead of manually downloading and putting the individual patches in OE. It's much less maintenance work that way | 
| 11:03.05 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: Do you guys know that the OE.db.bz2 link has connection refused at the moment? | 
| 11:03.32 | mickeyl | ewi is koen's site. it's a university, i guess there are some problems in between | 
| 11:03.50 | stefan_schmidt | k | 
| 11:03.56 | mickeyl | should reappear soonish. thanks for noticing | 
| 11:08.07 | LaF0rge | laforge | 
| 11:14.17 | stefan_schmidt | ? | 
| 11:29.47 | LaF0rge | wong keyboard while typing in username ;) | 
| 11:29.59 | LaF0rge | three keyboards on one desk is too much | 
| 11:30.33 | Hopscotch | you noticed it one line too early :) | 
| 11:30.43 | LaF0rge | i always do ;) | 
| 11:31.20 | Hopscotch | hmmm... bad luck for us :D | 
| 11:31.34 | LaF0rge | anyway, pw authentication is disable from outside ;) | 
| 11:32.48 | Hopscotch | Just Because You're Paranoid, Don't Mean They're Not After You :) | 
| 11:39.44 | LaF0rge | good luck | 
| 11:40.12 | Hopscotch | this driver is so §$§&$%/&§%$ unreadable... | 
| 11:41.08 | LaF0rge | I already had the pleasure | 
| 11:41.23 | LaF0rge | but you're talking about the 'new' one, not the original hacked prism2-wlan-ng ? | 
| 11:42.10 | Hopscotch | then there are three of them... the wlan-ng thing, one based on the source code from zydas (where i'm working) and the new new one which aims for kernel inclusion | 
| 11:42.17 | Hopscotch | the last one uses softmac | 
| 11:43.28 | LaF0rge | oh, even better | 
| 11:44.08 | Hopscotch | yeah, i guess the last one will finally be readable code | 
| 11:44.13 | Hopscotch | party yesterday? | 
| 11:44.29 | LaF0rge | http://www.schlagstrom.de/ | 
| 11:45.05 | mickeyl | pimp yourself with a bit of caffeine and then it'll go | 
| 11:45.56 | LaF0rge | mickeyl: my problem is that I still have way too much caffeine in my system. clubmate overdose ;) | 
| 11:45.58 | Hopscotch | LaF0rge: oha... schwarz wie die nacht... | 
| 11:46.06 | mickeyl | LaF0rge: uh oh, i see :) | 
| 11:46.28 | Hopscotch | LaF0rge: sabine wanted to paint my face for the next time we're in zapfendorf | 
| 11:48.05 | LaF0rge | hopscotch: good luck ;) | 
| 11:48.34 | LaF0rge | guess that's apart from "Held Braeu Oberailsfeld" the thing I miss most since moving to Berlin | 
| 11:48.45 | Hopscotch | well - then let's make a date :) | 
| 11:50.27 | LaF0rge | hopscotch: 2006-06-24 is goettertanz | 
| 11:52.23 | Hopscotch | hmmmm :) - righto... | 
| 11:52.27 | Hopscotch | just let me ask sabine | 
| 11:52.42 | LaF0rge | well, I'm not sure whether I'll really be able to make that | 
| 11:52.51 | LaF0rge | but at least it's tempting | 
| 11:53.59 | Hopscotch | sabine doesn't know here "lehrproben"-date yet | 
| 11:54.10 | Hopscotch | that's where it depends on | 
| 11:54.21 | Hopscotch | -where +what... | 
| 11:55.00 | Hopscotch | but i make a provisional note into the calendar | 
| 12:47.04 | mickeyl | stefan_schmidt: temp. location for a 1h old OE.db snapshot: http://hentges.net/tmp/OE.db.gz | 
| 12:48.07 | [g2-lap] | mickeyl is that a full OE ? | 
| 12:48.24 | mickeyl | should be all branches, yes | 
| 12:48.39 | [g2-lap] | ok thx | 
| 12:48.46 | mickeyl | <CoreDump|home> inlcudes .dev .oz354x and the fam fork | 
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| 12:49.43 | mickeyl | hi zecke | 
| 12:50.12 | [g2-lap] | wow zecke too ? | 
| 12:50.15 | mickeyl | hehe | 
| 12:50.20 | zecke | hey, if anyone needs local - as in Berlin - support for OE, X, QtE, Opie just ping me :) | 
| 12:50.22 | mickeyl | friendly overtaking :)) | 
| 12:50.33 | zecke | I will part now again :) | 
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| 14:32.34 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: thanks | 
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| 15:13.39 | blkhawk | OutlookExpress? | 
| 15:14.04 | blkhawk | if you start building that I have to come over there and shooting you :P | 
| 15:14.30 | mickeyl | stefan_schmidt: pull before building, i just fixed prismstumbler bailing out | 
| 15:14.40 | blkhawk | *shoot you | 
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| 15:24.46 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: ok | 
| 15:25.38 | mickeyl | if all goes well tomorrow the DPD will deliver my phone | 
| 15:25.42 | mickeyl | then i can test "real" | 
| 15:26.51 | stefan_schmidt | blkhawk: What's you problem with Outlook express? It's an fantastic mailer. I love the html support. | 
| 15:26.51 | stefan_schmidt | scnr | 
| 15:40.36 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl:  checking whether autoconf works... no | 
| 15:40.37 | stefan_schmidt | | configure: error: The installed version of autoconf does not work. | 
| 15:40.37 | stefan_schmidt | |     Please check config.log for error messages before this one. | 
| 15:40.37 | stefan_schmidt | | FATAL: oe_runconf failed | 
| 15:40.52 | stefan_schmidt | autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.59d | 
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| 15:41.22 | stefan_schmidt | failed at automake-native-1.9.3 package | 
| 15:42.08 | mickeyl | hmm odd | 
| 15:42.12 | mickeyl | what does config.log say? | 
| 15:42.21 | mickeyl | never seen it bailing out that early :D | 
| 15:43.17 | stefan_schmidt | moment | 
| 15:43.34 | mickeyl | did it build autoconf-native before btw.? | 
| 15:44.33 | stefan_schmidt | no. i did not tried it before. | 
| 15:45.02 | stefan_schmidt | config.log is _long_ but the last entry is only: configure: exit 1 | 
| 15:45.06 | mickeyl | hmm automake-native should depend on autoconf-native | 
| 15:45.15 | mickeyl | if that didn't build, then there's that's the problem | 
| 15:47.33 | stefan_schmidt | That could be. No autoconf tarball in the source dir... | 
| 15:48.51 | stefan_schmidt | moment, i'm not sure, but i think i saw an 404 error. | 
| 15:49.06 | stefan_schmidt | Perhaps autoconf download failed. | 
| 15:51.24 | stefan_schmidt | no, the 404 errors had a failback to cvs. | 
| 15:51.43 | stefan_schmidt | It never tried to download autoconf | 
| 15:53.13 | mickeyl | hmm. ok some prerequisites | 
| 15:53.16 | mickeyl | bitbake 1.4.3 ? | 
| 15:53.23 | mickeyl | you run bitbake from the build directory? | 
| 15:53.29 | mickeyl | you have setup conf/local.conf ? | 
| 15:55.55 | stefan_schmidt | bitbake from svn. I found no debian package. | 
| 15:56.02 | stefan_schmidt | from build dir | 
| 15:56.32 | stefan_schmidt | and conf/local.conf is setup with machine=a70 and distro ezx | 
| 16:01.05 | mickeyl | ah | 
| 16:01.11 | mickeyl | you need to use bitbake 1.4.3 | 
| 16:01.19 | mickeyl | machine=a780 or a70? | 
| 16:01.32 | stefan_schmidt | http://people.openezx.org/stefan/tmp/local.conf | 
| 16:01.35 | stefan_schmidt | a780 | 
| 16:02.05 | stefan_schmidt | svn co svn://svn.berlios.de/bitbake/branches/bitbake-1.4 bitbake | 
| 16:02.16 | mickeyl | ah, the 1.4 branch | 
| 16:02.21 | mickeyl | that should be ok | 
| 16:03.05 | stefan_schmidt | i do step by step from you GettingStare page in the wiki. | 
| 16:03.11 | mickeyl | local.conf looks ok | 
| 16:03.17 | mickeyl | how does BBPATH look? | 
| 16:03.44 | stefan_schmidt | /home/stefan/Projekte/OpenEZX/oe//build:/home/stefan/Projekte/OpenEZX/oe/org.openembedded.dev | 
| 16:04.22 | mickeyl | ok | 
| 16:04.25 | mickeyl | then please rm -rf tmp | 
| 16:04.28 | mickeyl | and bitbake -v nano | 
| 16:04.31 | mickeyl | and show me the log :) | 
| 16:04.42 | mickeyl | as far as it builds... | 
| 16:04.51 | stefan_schmidt | ok | 
| 16:05.53 | stefan_schmidt | hmm, perhaps i should install psco jit to speed up... | 
| 16:06.14 | mickeyl | the first parse run is pretty slow, we | 
| 16:06.18 | mickeyl | 're working on improving that | 
| 16:06.23 | mickeyl | subsequent runs go in 2 seconds | 
| 16:06.40 | stefan_schmidt | thats better. :) | 
| 16:09.03 | stefan_schmidt | It fails with the same problem. | 
| 16:09.12 | stefan_schmidt | I upload the log. moment | 
| 16:18.39 | stefan_schmidt | http://people.openezx.org/stefan/tmp/bitbake-v-nano.log | 
| 16:19.39 | mickeyl | d'oh | 
| 16:19.44 | mickeyl | something fishy going | 
| 16:19.53 | mickeyl | try bitbake autoconf-native | 
| 16:20.07 | mickeyl | and then again bitbake automake-native | 
| 16:21.06 | mickeyl | err no i got it wrong | 
| 16:21.21 | mickeyl | autoconf-native seems to depend on automake-native | 
| 16:21.32 | mickeyl | so we should find out why your autoconf isn't good enough | 
| 16:22.07 | mickeyl | I'm an autotools illiterate but I can try to look into config.log | 
| 16:22.13 | stefan_schmidt | bitbake autoconf-native, don't work | 
| 16:22.31 | mickeyl | yeah it needs automake-native | 
| 16:22.32 | mickeyl | bitbake is honoring the depends | 
| 16:22.38 | mickeyl | it's just that automake-native doesn't build for you which we need to debug | 
| 16:22.38 | stefan_schmidt | :) | 
| 16:22.53 | stefan_schmidt | yes | 
| 16:24.09 | stefan_schmidt | automake-native is now completed. | 
| 16:24.14 | mickeyl | oh | 
| 16:24.16 | mickeyl | how's that? | 
| 16:24.58 | stefan_schmidt | only bitbake automake-native | 
| 16:25.22 | mickeyl | hmm... perhaps it used our (halfbuilt) autoconf-native now. | 
| 16:25.24 | stefan_schmidt | strange | 
| 16:25.40 | mickeyl | in general, -native packages failing indicate something with your local environment | 
| 16:26.05 | stefan_schmidt | hmm | 
| 16:26.21 | mickeyl | which distro are you running? | 
| 16:26.30 | stefan_schmidt | debian unstable | 
| 16:27.16 | mickeyl | should be fairly common among OE devels and users | 
| 16:30.34 | stefan_schmidt | ok, same problem again. | 
| 16:31.17 | mickeyl | good. then it's definitly your autoconf. our tool are getting preferred due to PATH manipulation the moment they're built, that would explain why it works the 2nd time after starting autoconf-native | 
| 16:31.35 | mickeyl | let's have a look at config.log | 
| 16:36.49 | stefan_schmidt | http://people.openezx.org/stefan/tmp/config.log | 
| 16:38.16 | mickeyl | ah | 
| 16:38.18 | mickeyl | autom4te: cannot open /dev/null.tmp: Permission denied | 
| 16:38.28 | mickeyl | that could be a problem | 
| 16:38.39 | mickeyl | although i never seen that | 
| 16:39.06 | mickeyl | http://sourceware.org/ml/automake/2003-12/msg00017.html | 
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| 16:41.02 | stefan_schmidt | Sounds good, but i have autoconf 2.59d | 
| 16:41.39 | mickeyl | hmm yeah | 
| 16:42.35 | stefan_schmidt | ok, but the eroor is a good starting point | 
| 16:43.01 | blobster | hmm... got the exact same error, but I don't remember how I solved it :( | 
| 16:47.28 | stefan_schmidt | blobster: think, think, think,... | 
| 16:47.43 | stefan_schmidt | ;) | 
| 16:47.49 | blobster | :) | 
| 16:48.45 | blobster | I'm not entirely sure that it was with automake... But somehow I think that it was something with m4-scripts.. | 
| 16:53.15 | blobster | I think it was that it tried reading m4-scripts from the wrong place... | 
| 16:54.09 | blobster | not sure though even that this was the same problem :D | 
| 16:58.16 | LaF0rge | mickeyl: I had exectly those problems, too | 
| 16:58.25 | LaF0rge | mickeyl: in exactly the same order | 
| 16:58.43 | LaF0rge | stefan: I chowned /dev to the user that runs bitbake | 
| 16:58.51 | LaF0rge | stefan: and then restored the old settings | 
| 16:59.02 | LaF0rge | stefan: OE insists on renaming and then deleting /dev/null, for whatever reason | 
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| 17:01.20 | stefan_schmidt | LaF0rge: thanks, i try this | 
| 17:02.42 | blobster | heh, or might just have been that I build it as root :D | 
| 17:03.10 | blobster | s/build/built/ | 
| 17:23.16 | stefan_schmidt | LaF0rge: thanks a lot. With chown this step works fine. | 
| 18:38.15 | mickey|dinner | LaF0rge: i noticed you compile obligatory stuff as modules (i.e. touchscreen) - i guess this is because of your testing right? in "production" system we will like build these into the kernel won't we? | 
| 19:12.43 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|dinner: After changed the owner for /dev and /dev/null, as suggested by LaF0rge, i was able to build the whole task-bootstrap. | 
| 19:12.54 | mickey|dinner | *puh* good to hear :) | 
| 19:13.09 | mickey|dinner | i'm pushing a more complete defconfig in the next few hours | 
| 19:13.36 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|dinner: But i'm still interested, why this change is needed. | 
| 19:13.45 | mickey|dinner | me too | 
| 19:13.57 | mickey|dinner | try to mail automake mailing list | 
| 19:14.21 | stefan_schmidt | Do you build OE as root? | 
| 19:14.25 | mickey|dinner | never! | 
| 19:14.34 | mickey|dinner | this is not advised | 
| 19:14.52 | stefan_schmidt | of course | 
| 19:15.20 | koen | since stupid buildsystems might install in hardcoded /usr/lib or /usr/bin locations | 
| 19:15.37 | stefan_schmidt | yes, that is a real pain | 
| 19:17.31 | koen | mount -o user is also a cute bug to chase down with OE | 
| 19:18.32 | koen | in case you want to build opie you will need to adjust permission on /dev/console as well | 
| 19:20.33 | koen | has anyone tried booting 2.6 on a a1200 yet? | 
| 19:23.00 | stefan_schmidt | koen: Why i have to change the permissions on dev files? They should be right. | 
| 19:23.34 | stefan_schmidt | There is no A1200 in germany at the moment. We wait for it. | 
| 19:23.44 | koen | stefan_schmidt: qt/e is braindead and messed up | 
| 19:24.46 | stefan_schmidt | hmm, not nice. | 
| 19:27.35 | koen | I recommend not using or building anything qt/e related | 
| 19:28.01 | koen | well, when I get one, that is | 
| 19:29.01 | Hopscotch | waiting for enlightenment? :D | 
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