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07:41.30ao2good morning
07:43.02webmindgood morning
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08:26.43LaF0rgehi ao2, webmind, jonwil
08:26.50jonwilhi
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08:39.31Hopscotchgood morning
08:42.22blkhawkMOrning
08:54.59stefan_schmidtmoin moin
09:37.08jonwilany news to report?
09:38.54stefan_schmidtif you follow the maillinglist, nothing.
09:39.14jonwilok :)
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10:28.08stefan_schmidtmickey|zzZZzz: Connecting to ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl|130.89.145.130|:80... failed: Connection refused.
10:41.54LaF0rgeSRC_URI ?
10:42.37stefan_schmidthttp://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE.db.bz2
10:42.45stefan_schmidtEO database
10:43.38LaF0rgewhat about it?
10:44.06LaF0rgedoes it contain build fixes compared to the original one?
10:44.37stefan_schmidtNo. I thought you mean me with your SRC_URI question
10:45.15stefan_schmidtI get a connection refused, if i try to download the normal OE database
10:45.39LaF0rgeno, mickeyl said something about "I'll try to fix the SRC_URI tomorrow if laforge cannot fix it upstrea"
10:45.42LaF0rgeor something like that
10:45.52stefan_schmidtah, you are talking about that.
10:46.28stefan_schmidtHe liake to have a fixed verion of ezx6.
10:46.37stefan_schmidtsymlink bug
10:47.09stefan_schmidtI think he will use ezx6 to build automaticly within oe
10:47.25stefan_schmidtSo he chance the SRC_URI to a fixed version
10:48.57stefan_schmidti upload a fixed version for him.
10:54.41stefan_schmidtmickey|zzZZzz: You can use this URI for oe
10:54.44stefan_schmidthttp://people.openezx.org/stefan/patches/patches-2.6.16-2.6.16.13-exz6-symlink-fix.tar.bz2
10:55.14stefan_schmidtit's only a path fixed version. nothing more
11:01.57mickeylyawn
11:01.59mickeylthanks stefan
11:02.25mickeylyes, starting with ezx6 i use the complete patchset instead of manually downloading and putting the individual patches in OE. It's much less maintenance work that way
11:03.05stefan_schmidtmickeyl: Do you guys know that the OE.db.bz2 link has connection refused at the moment?
11:03.32mickeylewi is koen's site. it's a university, i guess there are some problems in between
11:03.50stefan_schmidtk
11:03.56mickeylshould reappear soonish. thanks for noticing
11:08.07LaF0rgelaforge
11:14.17stefan_schmidt?
11:29.47LaF0rgewong keyboard while typing in username ;)
11:29.59LaF0rgethree keyboards on one desk is too much
11:30.33Hopscotchyou noticed it one line too early :)
11:30.43LaF0rgei always do ;)
11:31.20Hopscotchhmmm... bad luck for us :D
11:31.34LaF0rgeanyway, pw authentication is disable from outside ;)
11:32.48HopscotchJust Because You're Paranoid, Don't Mean They're Not After You :)
11:39.44LaF0rgegood luck
11:40.12Hopscotchthis driver is so §$§&$%/&§%$ unreadable...
11:41.08LaF0rgeI already had the pleasure
11:41.23LaF0rgebut you're talking about the 'new' one, not the original hacked prism2-wlan-ng ?
11:42.10Hopscotchthen there are three of them... the wlan-ng thing, one based on the source code from zydas (where i'm working) and the new new one which aims for kernel inclusion
11:42.17Hopscotchthe last one uses softmac
11:43.28LaF0rgeoh, even better
11:44.08Hopscotchyeah, i guess the last one will finally be readable code
11:44.13Hopscotchparty yesterday?
11:44.29LaF0rgehttp://www.schlagstrom.de/
11:45.05mickeylpimp yourself with a bit of caffeine and then it'll go
11:45.56LaF0rgemickeyl: my problem is that I still have way too much caffeine in my system. clubmate overdose ;)
11:45.58HopscotchLaF0rge: oha... schwarz wie die nacht...
11:46.06mickeylLaF0rge: uh oh, i see :)
11:46.28HopscotchLaF0rge: sabine wanted to paint my face for the next time we're in zapfendorf
11:48.05LaF0rgehopscotch: good luck ;)
11:48.34LaF0rgeguess that's apart from "Held Braeu Oberailsfeld" the thing I miss most since moving to Berlin
11:48.45Hopscotchwell - then let's make a date :)
11:50.27LaF0rgehopscotch: 2006-06-24 is goettertanz
11:52.23Hopscotchhmmmm :) - righto...
11:52.27Hopscotchjust let me ask sabine
11:52.42LaF0rgewell, I'm not sure whether I'll really be able to make that
11:52.51LaF0rgebut at least it's tempting
11:53.59Hopscotchsabine doesn't know here "lehrproben"-date yet
11:54.10Hopscotchthat's where it depends on
11:54.21Hopscotch-where +what...
11:55.00Hopscotchbut i make a provisional note into the calendar
12:47.04mickeylstefan_schmidt: temp. location for a 1h old OE.db snapshot: http://hentges.net/tmp/OE.db.gz
12:48.07[g2-lap]mickeyl is that a full OE ?
12:48.24mickeylshould be all branches, yes
12:48.39[g2-lap]ok thx
12:48.46mickeyl<CoreDump|home> inlcudes .dev .oz354x and the fam fork
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12:49.43mickeylhi zecke
12:50.12[g2-lap]wow zecke too ?
12:50.15mickeylhehe
12:50.20zeckehey, if anyone needs local - as in Berlin - support for OE, X, QtE, Opie just ping me :)
12:50.22mickeylfriendly overtaking :))
12:50.33zeckeI will part now again :)
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14:32.34stefan_schmidtmickeyl: thanks
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15:13.39blkhawkOutlookExpress?
15:14.04blkhawkif you start building that I have to come over there and shooting you :P
15:14.30mickeylstefan_schmidt: pull before building, i just fixed prismstumbler bailing out
15:14.40blkhawk*shoot you
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15:24.46stefan_schmidtmickeyl: ok
15:25.38mickeylif all goes well tomorrow the DPD will deliver my phone
15:25.42mickeylthen i can test "real"
15:26.51stefan_schmidtblkhawk: What's you problem with Outlook express? It's an fantastic mailer. I love the html support.
15:26.51stefan_schmidtscnr
15:40.36stefan_schmidtmickeyl:  checking whether autoconf works... no
15:40.37stefan_schmidt| configure: error: The installed version of autoconf does not work.
15:40.37stefan_schmidt|     Please check config.log for error messages before this one.
15:40.37stefan_schmidt| FATAL: oe_runconf failed
15:40.52stefan_schmidtautoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.59d
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15:41.22stefan_schmidtfailed at automake-native-1.9.3 package
15:42.08mickeylhmm odd
15:42.12mickeylwhat does config.log say?
15:42.21mickeylnever seen it bailing out that early :D
15:43.17stefan_schmidtmoment
15:43.34mickeyldid it build autoconf-native before btw.?
15:44.33stefan_schmidtno. i did not tried it before.
15:45.02stefan_schmidtconfig.log is _long_ but the last entry is only: configure: exit 1
15:45.06mickeylhmm automake-native should depend on autoconf-native
15:45.15mickeylif that didn't build, then there's that's the problem
15:47.33stefan_schmidtThat could be. No autoconf tarball in the source dir...
15:48.51stefan_schmidtmoment, i'm not sure, but i think i saw an 404 error.
15:49.06stefan_schmidtPerhaps autoconf download failed.
15:51.24stefan_schmidtno, the 404 errors had a failback to cvs.
15:51.43stefan_schmidtIt never tried to download autoconf
15:53.13mickeylhmm. ok some prerequisites
15:53.16mickeylbitbake 1.4.3 ?
15:53.23mickeylyou run bitbake from the build directory?
15:53.29mickeylyou have setup conf/local.conf ?
15:55.55stefan_schmidtbitbake from svn. I found no debian package.
15:56.02stefan_schmidtfrom build dir
15:56.32stefan_schmidtand conf/local.conf is setup with machine=a70 and distro ezx
16:01.05mickeylah
16:01.11mickeylyou need to use bitbake 1.4.3
16:01.19mickeylmachine=a780 or a70?
16:01.32stefan_schmidthttp://people.openezx.org/stefan/tmp/local.conf
16:01.35stefan_schmidta780
16:02.05stefan_schmidtsvn co svn://svn.berlios.de/bitbake/branches/bitbake-1.4 bitbake
16:02.16mickeylah, the 1.4 branch
16:02.21mickeylthat should be ok
16:03.05stefan_schmidti do step by step from you GettingStare page in the wiki.
16:03.11mickeyllocal.conf looks ok
16:03.17mickeylhow does BBPATH look?
16:03.44stefan_schmidt/home/stefan/Projekte/OpenEZX/oe//build:/home/stefan/Projekte/OpenEZX/oe/org.openembedded.dev
16:04.22mickeylok
16:04.25mickeylthen please rm -rf tmp
16:04.28mickeyland bitbake -v nano
16:04.31mickeyland show me the log :)
16:04.42mickeylas far as it builds...
16:04.51stefan_schmidtok
16:05.53stefan_schmidthmm, perhaps i should install psco jit to speed up...
16:06.14mickeylthe first parse run is pretty slow, we
16:06.18mickeyl're working on improving that
16:06.23mickeylsubsequent runs go in 2 seconds
16:06.40stefan_schmidtthats better. :)
16:09.03stefan_schmidtIt fails with the same problem.
16:09.12stefan_schmidtI upload the log. moment
16:18.39stefan_schmidthttp://people.openezx.org/stefan/tmp/bitbake-v-nano.log
16:19.39mickeyld'oh
16:19.44mickeylsomething fishy going
16:19.53mickeyltry bitbake autoconf-native
16:20.07mickeyland then again bitbake automake-native
16:21.06mickeylerr no i got it wrong
16:21.21mickeylautoconf-native seems to depend on automake-native
16:21.32mickeylso we should find out why your autoconf isn't good enough
16:22.07mickeylI'm an autotools illiterate but I can try to look into config.log
16:22.13stefan_schmidtbitbake autoconf-native, don't work
16:22.31mickeylyeah it needs automake-native
16:22.32mickeylbitbake is honoring the depends
16:22.38mickeylit's just that automake-native doesn't build for you which we need to debug
16:22.38stefan_schmidt:)
16:22.53stefan_schmidtyes
16:24.09stefan_schmidtautomake-native is now completed.
16:24.14mickeyloh
16:24.16mickeylhow's that?
16:24.58stefan_schmidtonly bitbake automake-native
16:25.22mickeylhmm... perhaps it used our (halfbuilt) autoconf-native now.
16:25.24stefan_schmidtstrange
16:25.40mickeylin general, -native packages failing indicate something with your local environment
16:26.05stefan_schmidthmm
16:26.21mickeylwhich distro are you running?
16:26.30stefan_schmidtdebian unstable
16:27.16mickeylshould be fairly common among OE devels and users
16:30.34stefan_schmidtok, same problem again.
16:31.17mickeylgood. then it's definitly your autoconf. our tool are getting preferred due to PATH manipulation the moment they're built, that would explain why it works the 2nd time after starting autoconf-native
16:31.35mickeyllet's have a look at config.log
16:36.49stefan_schmidthttp://people.openezx.org/stefan/tmp/config.log
16:38.16mickeylah
16:38.18mickeylautom4te: cannot open /dev/null.tmp: Permission denied
16:38.28mickeylthat could be a problem
16:38.39mickeylalthough i never seen that
16:39.06mickeylhttp://sourceware.org/ml/automake/2003-12/msg00017.html
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16:41.02stefan_schmidtSounds good, but i have autoconf 2.59d
16:41.39mickeylhmm yeah
16:42.35stefan_schmidtok, but the eroor is a good starting point
16:43.01blobsterhmm... got the exact same error, but I don't remember how I solved it :(
16:47.28stefan_schmidtblobster: think, think, think,...
16:47.43stefan_schmidt;)
16:47.49blobster:)
16:48.45blobsterI'm not entirely sure that it was with automake... But somehow I think that it was something with m4-scripts..
16:53.15blobsterI think it was that it tried reading m4-scripts from the wrong place...
16:54.09blobsternot sure though even that this was the same problem :D
16:58.16LaF0rgemickeyl: I had exectly those problems, too
16:58.25LaF0rgemickeyl: in exactly the same order
16:58.43LaF0rgestefan: I chowned /dev to the user that runs bitbake
16:58.51LaF0rgestefan: and then restored the old settings
16:59.02LaF0rgestefan: OE insists on renaming and then deleting /dev/null, for whatever reason
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17:01.20stefan_schmidtLaF0rge: thanks, i try this
17:02.42blobsterheh, or might just have been that I build it as root :D
17:03.10blobsters/build/built/
17:23.16stefan_schmidtLaF0rge: thanks a lot. With chown this step works fine.
18:38.15mickey|dinnerLaF0rge: i noticed you compile obligatory stuff as modules (i.e. touchscreen) - i guess this is because of your testing right? in "production" system we will like build these into the kernel won't we?
19:12.43stefan_schmidtmickey|dinner: After changed the owner for /dev and /dev/null, as suggested by LaF0rge, i was able to build the whole task-bootstrap.
19:12.54mickey|dinner*puh* good to hear :)
19:13.09mickey|dinneri'm pushing a more complete defconfig in the next few hours
19:13.36stefan_schmidtmickey|dinner: But i'm still interested, why this change is needed.
19:13.45mickey|dinnerme too
19:13.57mickey|dinnertry to mail automake mailing list
19:14.21stefan_schmidtDo you build OE as root?
19:14.25mickey|dinnernever!
19:14.34mickey|dinnerthis is not advised
19:14.52stefan_schmidtof course
19:15.20koensince stupid buildsystems might install in hardcoded /usr/lib or /usr/bin locations
19:15.37stefan_schmidtyes, that is a real pain
19:17.31koenmount -o user is also a cute bug to chase down with OE
19:18.32koenin case you want to build opie you will need to adjust permission on /dev/console as well
19:20.33koenhas anyone tried booting 2.6 on a a1200 yet?
19:23.00stefan_schmidtkoen: Why i have to change the permissions on dev files? They should be right.
19:23.34stefan_schmidtThere is no A1200 in germany at the moment. We wait for it.
19:23.44koenstefan_schmidt: qt/e is braindead and messed up
19:24.46stefan_schmidthmm, not nice.
19:27.35koenI recommend not using or building anything qt/e related
19:28.01koenwell, when I get one, that is
19:29.01Hopscotchwaiting for enlightenment? :D
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