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06:58.39stefan_schmidtmorning
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07:12.52LaF0rgehi
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07:56.39blkhawk[work]lo
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08:46.46LaF0rgehi stefan
08:47.40stefan_schmidthi
08:48.15stefan_schmidtwill spend some of my wotk time to fix my rootfs in after lunch. :)
08:49.21LaF0rge;)
08:50.51Hopscotchgood morning
08:51.05stefan_schmidtHopscotch: morning
09:54.34blkhawk[work]Hopscotch: mmorning
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10:16.49ysakaedmorning :)
10:22.44blkhawk[work]morning
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11:48.39jonwilhi
11:49.46blkhawk[work]lo
11:52.52stefan_schmidthi
11:56.29jonwilFYI, the CD being sent to the people in germany who provided the address (I forget who it was) is being delivered soon
12:00.25stefan_schmidtjonwil: They promised me to send me the track id once it is on the way. Just releax. :)
12:00.47jonwilI have the track ID for that CD
12:00.51jonwilthe one sent to "maintech"
12:01.04Hopscotchah, good
12:01.21jonwilacording to FedEx, it is "on fedex vehicle for delivery"
12:01.26Hopscotchthat was thomas and me
12:01.41Hopscotchas soon as it arrives we'll upload it to maintech.de
12:01.46jonwilcool
12:01.59jonwilit might be the same as the CD already uploaded
12:02.05Hopscotchwe'll see :)
12:03.50jonwilonce we get this CD (and any others still in transit) we will see what they havent yet given us that they are required to
12:04.07Hopscotchif it is complete this time
12:04.07jonwilI know for a fact that the CD they sent before is msising stuff
12:05.27Hopscotchsounds pretty good :)
12:09.53TommyMTjonwil: I just received the CD
12:09.59Hopscotchhuch
12:10.17jonwilok, cool
12:12.49jonwilok, whats on it? :)
12:13.19TommyMTHopscotch: The IRC server won't let me send PMs
12:13.44HopscotchTommyMT: create an account and register your nick
12:13.52TommyMTjonwil: looks like pretty much the same as on the other CD someone received a few days ago
12:14.05TommyMTjonwil: im uploading, but it'll take a couple of minutes
12:14.09jonwilok, cool
12:14.21jonwilif there are any differences, it should be easy to spot
12:15.53jonwilsounds like everyone is getting the same CD, the one uploaded at http://novalis.org/gpl/motorola
12:16.45TommyMTyeah, the filesizes are a exact match to my cd
12:17.12jonwilok, I will contact my motorola contact again, mention the CD and mention what is still missing
12:17.17stefan_schmidtSo i think i'll get the same, too.
12:17.28TommyMTjonwil: what is missing?
12:18.23jonwilConfirmed as being on the phones but not that CD as far as I can tell:
12:18.25jonwilsed
12:18.28jonwilnetkit-telnet
12:18.31jonwilnetkit-base
12:18.34jonwilsamba
12:18.36jonwilppp
12:18.39jonwilzlib
12:18.43jonwildosfstools
12:18.43TommyMTsamba?!
12:18.46jonwilfakelogin3
12:18.49TommyMTwow...
12:18.50jonwilfastjar
12:18.53jonwildnsproxy
12:19.14jonwilI have seen all those programs in one or more of the 3 rootfs images I have examined
12:20.04jonwilAlso, if they are using any different versions of stuff or changed stuff on other phones, we dont have that (e.g. we dont have kernel, blob etc for anything other than e680(i) and a780)
12:20.12jonwileven though there are other motorola phones out now
12:20.14jonwilthat use ezx
12:20.16jonwiland linux
12:20.55jonwiltommymt, the CD you have recieved contains exactly the same stuff as what was uploaded at that other URL?
12:21.25TommyMTjonwil: looks pretty much like that, yes
12:21.28jonwilok
12:21.55jonwilI was hoping that maybe we would get more (e.g. kernel for a1200 or binutils source RPM)
12:24.23stefan_schmidtLaF0rge: rootfs should work now, but i've problems with the usbnet. dmesg on host pc
12:24.26stefan_schmidtusb 2-2: device not accepting address 44, error -71
12:24.26stefan_schmidtusb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 45
12:24.26stefan_schmidtusb 2-2: device not accepting address 45, error -71
12:26.59jonwilI am emailing my contact again to ask about the missing stuff
12:27.04jonwilto either get copies of it
12:27.11jonwilor to get information on its status/licence
12:32.46jonwilok, mail sent
12:33.40jonwilBasicly the list of missing items I mentioned covers everything that we dont have source to yet that either definatly is open source or appears to be/contain open source
12:33.48jonwile.g. things where the licence is unclear
12:34.02jonwilmost of the motorola stuff is clearly propriatory
12:34.21jonwilfor example, the kernel modules of a1200 definatly say licence=gpl inside
12:35.00jonwilif in fact they are not GPL, setting licence=gpl is probobly going against the spirit if not the letter of the rules that allow for binary-only kernel modules
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12:38.12stefan_schmidtagd5f: hi
12:55.14agd5fstefan_schmidt: hey
13:08.36stefan_schmidtLaF0rge: any idea about this? I tested it on another system with same result.
13:13.32TommyMTContents of the CD I received are now available for download on http://wiki.openezx.org/downloads/
13:13.56TommyMTWe don't pay traffic on that box - so you may publish that link :)
13:14.39Hopscotchperhaps we're gonna get our slashdot-test this way :)
13:18.55jonwilthat definatly looks like the same as the other CD
13:22.07LaF0rgestefan_schmidt: mh.  I'll put a copy of my current kernel tree online shortly, maybe some slight difference in the source
13:22.18LaF0rgedid you try unplug/replug of the usb cable?
13:24.44stefan_schmidtyes
13:24.50stefan_schmidtsame result
13:25.13LaF0rgetry adding a         emu_switch_to(EMU_SWITCH_TO_USB);
13:25.23stefan_schmidtwhere?
13:25.33LaF0rgeto a780_init in arch/arm/mach-pxa/ezx.c
13:25.42stefan_schmidtok
13:25.51LaF0rgejust below the ssp_pcap_init() line that should be below the pxa_set_*_info calls
13:26.29LaF0rgeusb/telnet/transflash/keyboard is now working fine on my phone here
13:26.40LaF0rgetransflash/a780 even seems more stable than sdmmc/e680
13:26.46stefan_schmidtcool
13:26.57LaF0rgemaybe the voltage on the e680 mmc is a bit too low for the card
13:27.14LaF0rgewith the keyboard working, you can even unblank the screen again
13:27.27stefan_schmidt:)
13:27.31LaF0rge(and actually scroll the history using the scrollwheel and press enter)
13:27.47Hopscotchwow
13:28.13LaF0rgethe only big issue are still the architectural decisions with regard to spi.
13:28.38LaF0rgeI'm now using the motorola driver, but with the controller rather than bitbanging. my new code has yet to be tested.
13:29.02LaF0rgei'll see whether my quilt patchset actually corresponds to the working tree and put it online
13:31.53stefan_schmidtLaF0rge: after ssp_pcap_init() folows directly
13:31.56stefan_schmidt<PROTECTED>
13:32.05stefan_schmidtShould i comment this out?
13:32.19LaF0rgestefan: ouch, that explains
13:32.24Hopscotchlol
13:32.26LaF0rgeyou're switching the EMU port to serial instead of usb
13:32.40LaF0rgejust change UART to USB and it should work
13:33.00stefan_schmidthmm, i think i don't touch this bits...
13:33.20LaF0rgestefan: yes, I think my patch was probably missing some bits, or that change was made in yet another patch...
13:34.19stefan_schmidtBut my phone and laptop still works :)
13:35.00LaF0rgeyes, I also did that once
13:35.34LaF0rgeactually the phone even seems to survive it when you tell it to power the USB bus while being connected to the usb-powering host
13:35.38LaF0rgeat least for a couple of minutes
13:36.14LaF0rgethere's lots of protection circuitry, although I'm not sure whether that works without software (getting interrupted for overcurrent and changing pcap bits)
13:36.14stefan_schmidt:)
13:39.01TommyMTLaF0rge: Protection stuff might be handled by the Neptune CPU as it is able to override most of the parameters in the PCAP.
13:39.01LaF0rgetommyt: makes sense, ye
13:39.01LaF0rgeyes
13:39.12TommyMTLaF0rge: Im wondering if and how the Neptune firmware is updated
13:40.14LaF0rgetommy: look at blob
13:40.31LaF0rgetommy: they 'passthrough' usb stuff from the EMU connector to the neptune
13:40.41TommyMTLaF0rge: aaaaah...
13:41.11LaF0rgetommy: even on your A780, the neptune should currently be in update mode
13:41.28LaF0rgetommy: if you boot the 2.6.x kernel and load ohci, then you get one usb device (which is the neptune) in flash update mode
13:41.31LaF0rgetommy: http://wiki.howardforums.com/motorola/index.php/SHX_File_Modding_Guide
13:41.58TommyMTLaF0rge: do we have a Neptune firmware image?
13:42.17LaF0rgetommy: sure
13:42.27TommyMTLaF0rge: where?
13:42.30LaF0rgetommy: there are even dsp firmware images
13:42.44LaF0rgetommy: obviously don't we have them. but you can find them on the net
13:43.36TommyMTLaF0rge: ok
13:45.48stefan_schmidtLaF0rge: still no luck
13:45.51stefan_schmidtusb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 64
13:45.51stefan_schmidtusb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices
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13:52.02stefan_schmidthmm, on the phone i get something like that:
13:52.07stefan_schmidtudc: USB reset
13:52.53stefan_schmidtusb0: full speedconfig M1: 100 mA, Ethernet Gadget, using CDC Ethernet subset
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21:03.15Hopscotchhave a good trip
21:04.09filethanks
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21:22.12stefan_schmidthi
21:22.29stefan_schmidtsomething interesting in the last hours?
21:23.47fileyay diving
21:24.30stefan_schmidtwas fun
21:38.20blkhawknot really
21:38.34stefan_schmidtblkhawk: why not?
21:38.52stefan_schmidttons of water over you. ;)
21:41.19blkhawki was talking about interesting
21:41.33blkhawkinteresting stuff only happens when i'm at work and cannot even look
21:41.53stefan_schmidtah, ok
21:42.09stefan_schmidt:)
21:43.01stefan_schmidtHopscotch: Biergarten was good?
21:44.13Hopscotchyeah
21:44.22Hopscotchwarm, sunny, good food :)
21:44.59stefan_schmidtHopscotch: food!? :)
21:45.34Hopscotchyeah, picked up some dinner :)
21:45.41Hopscotch"spargeltoast"
21:46.04stefan_schmidtsounds good.
21:46.21stefan_schmidt"Spargel" time begins, right.
21:47.24Hopscotchi'm located in würzburg which is near to the ochsenfurter gau
21:47.39Hopscotchthat's where a lot of good asparagus comes from :)
21:55.09stefan_schmidtlower saxony her. We also have good asparagus. :) Mostly we buy direct from the farmer.
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