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| 02:56.09 | [g2] | hey guys congrats on the progress |
| 02:56.17 | [g2] | couple of thoughts |
| 02:56.41 | [g2] | 1) there's a bootloader call APEX you may be interestded in running/porting |
| 02:57.01 | [g2] | 2) have you guys looked for the JTAG pins ? |
| 02:57.39 | [g2] | 3) OpenOCD is a JTAG debugger than with a little lov'n may be able to do some xscale debugging |
| 02:57.53 | [g2] | it does arm7/9 now iirc |
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| 05:47.11 | stefan_schmidt | hi |
| 05:48.11 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: there are JTAG Pins on both. AP and BP. |
| 05:59.50 | TimRiker | stefan_schmidt: the Motorola flash tools reflash both the ap and bp over usb. I wonder how they ram based flash tool they use talks to the bp flash. |
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| 07:33.19 | ao2 | hi |
| 07:34.51 | TimRiker | the led utility modifies the top led. is there a tool to change the cursor pad led? |
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| 12:01.42 | jonwil | hi |
| 12:11.47 | webmind | hi |
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| 14:36.50 | stefan_schmidt | ysakaed: You talked about working supertux some time ago. Patches? |
| 14:46.50 | blkhawk | lo |
| 14:49.55 | ysakaed | yap |
| 14:49.56 | ysakaed | done |
| 14:50.00 | ysakaed | played it nicely :P |
| 14:50.05 | ysakaed | with music too :D |
| 14:50.49 | ysakaed | sc i captured yesterday http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/4014/pict04171357443ky.png |
| 14:51.04 | ysakaed | http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/1893/pict04171357201li.png |
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| 14:58.41 | stefan_schmidt | ysakaed: Nice pictures, but where are the patches? :) |
| 14:58.59 | ysakaed | there is not much modification apart from the key tho |
| 14:59.06 | ysakaed | i didn't compile from the original source |
| 14:59.09 | ysakaed | i used the gp3x port |
| 14:59.12 | ysakaed | gp2x i mean |
| 15:00.09 | ysakaed | i can send u the source code if you want it |
| 15:07.31 | stefan_schmidt | ysakaed: source code would be ok. So i can diff myself. |
| 15:07.47 | stefan_schmidt | ysakaed: stefan@datenfreihafen.org |
| 15:07.58 | ysakaed | okay i will send before i go to sleep |
| 15:08.25 | stefan_schmidt | thanks |
| 15:11.49 | ysakaed | sent |
| 15:17.04 | stefan_schmidt | thanks, good night. |
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| 16:06.01 | uwehermann | hi |
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| 16:08.54 | stefan_schmidt | hi |
| 16:19.19 | uwehermann | How do you guys bckup your phones in case you screw up? I have a dd image of the transflash card and one of the internal flash (/dev/sda1 when the phone is attached via USB). Anything else? |
| 16:30.55 | blkhawk | hmmm |
| 16:31.01 | blkhawk | maybe ezlocal? |
| 16:31.10 | blkhawk | where is the Phonebook saved`? |
| 16:38.22 | TimRiker | use flashkit and backup the raw mtd and tff devices |
| 16:38.44 | TimRiker | blkhawk: should be a .db file somewhere in diska |
| 16:39.55 | uwehermann | Thanks. I think there should be some documentation in the wiki about backups... |
| 16:40.50 | uwehermann | is /diska == /dev/sda1? |
| 16:42.36 | blkhawk | yes |
| 16:46.01 | uwehermann | ok, so I'm fine with a dd image of /dev/sda1. anything else which is not in any of the dd images? |
| 16:49.23 | uwehermann | TimRiker: what is flashkit? is it some windows tool from motorola? |
| 16:56.23 | TimRiker | see motfans. pivot_root out of flash so you can reflash from userspace. cool tool. |
| 16:56.38 | blkhawk | ya |
| 16:56.54 | blkhawk | makes swapping out stuff easy |
| 16:57.05 | blkhawk | i used it to change the boot logo |
| 16:57.24 | TimRiker | when I get around to building a rootfs, I'll add a hook to it to just boot that way. copy libs and busybox to ram, pivot root there, start usbnet and telnetd. |
| 16:57.44 | TimRiker | blkhawk: which logo? the hello moto? or just the animation after that? |
| 17:01.04 | blkhawk | no |
| 17:01.13 | blkhawk | the retarded helomoto logo |
| 17:01.20 | blkhawk | I have a nice tux there now |
| 17:02.47 | blkhawk | the animation is easily changed |
| 17:19.09 | uwehermann | I have created an initial Backups page in the wiki. |
| 17:19.11 | uwehermann | http://wiki.openezx.org/Backups |
| 17:19.28 | uwehermann | Please check if the content is correct and feel free to add more. |
| 17:28.19 | stefan_schmidt | uwehermann: thanks. You are the wiki-man. :) |
| 17:30.07 | uwehermann | Is there any documentation about how to boot your own kernel with boot_usb? As soon as I have figured out that, I'll document it in the wiki ;) |
| 17:31.18 | stefan_schmidt | uwehermann: ./boot_usb zImage |
| 17:31.47 | uwehermann | where both files reside on the phone? |
| 17:31.52 | stefan_schmidt | You need to be in bootloader mode. Press camera and jogdial buttan while pressing power on. |
| 17:32.47 | stefan_schmidt | no, boot_usb is the client tool only. |
| 17:33.22 | stefan_schmidt | It only communicates with blob on the phone to transfer the zImage to ram and execute it. |
| 17:36.40 | uwehermann | OK. So I turn off the phone, attach it to my computer via USB, press camera and jogdial while turning it on, and then run ./boot_usb zImage on my computer. Correct? |
| 17:39.02 | stefan_schmidt | yes, but you could attach the usb cable even after switch into bootloader mode. It's regardless |
| 17:40.26 | stefan_schmidt | btw, you the the bootloader on the lcd. On the first look it seems like a bluescreen. :) |
| 17:43.21 | uwehermann | How do I know that I'm really in bootloader mode? I was asked whether I want to turn on the antenna or not. |
| 17:44.29 | stefan_schmidt | That's wrong. |
| 17:44.59 | stefan_schmidt | The phone did not boot. Press power on only short. |
| 17:45.19 | stefan_schmidt | You get a blue screen with white text very fast. |
| 17:45.23 | TimRiker | blkhawk: so how did you change the hellomoto image? |
| 17:50.39 | uwehermann | stefan_schmidt: ok, thanks. I was pressing the joystick-button instead of jogdial ;) |
| 17:50.55 | uwehermann | stefan_schmidt: I get exactly this: http://www.datenfreihafen.org/~stefan/EZX/photos/a780-bootloader-2.jpg |
| 17:51.05 | uwehermann | stefan_schmidt: now trying boot_usb |
| 17:52.04 | stefan_schmidt | uwehermann: no problem |
| 17:55.14 | uwehermann | stefan_schmidt: ok, nice. your zImage boots, no connection to tapi srv, trying to go into mass storage mode, power off. Need to remove battery before I can turn it on again. |
| 17:55.53 | stefan_schmidt | all right |
| 17:56.21 | uwehermann | I had 7c7c7c7c btw |
| 17:56.59 | stefan_schmidt | ok, but the flags seems to be uninteresting. |
| 17:57.34 | stefan_schmidt | I can boot with different flags without problem. Harald too |
| 18:03.03 | TimRiker | blkhawk: ?? how did you change the hello moto image? |
| 18:04.15 | TimRiker | is the boot/nonboot issue the a780 edge/no-edge difference? |
| 18:04.33 | TimRiker | there are apparently at least two different model units. |
| 18:09.50 | blkhawk | the boot image is its own "partition" on theflash |
| 18:10.00 | blkhawk | it basically a bitmap |
| 18:26.35 | [g2] | TimRiker are you running a 780 ? |
| 18:27.35 | TimRiker | blkhawk: 16 bit 240x320 raw then? |
| 18:27.42 | TimRiker | [g2]: e680i |
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| 18:28.09 | [g2] | TimRiker you're stateside right ? I'm wondering how go get a device |
| 18:28.20 | TimRiker | [g2]: I just bought one on ebay. |
| 18:28.36 | [g2] | wow, what a wild idea :-) |
| 18:28.57 | [g2] | TimRiker did you hookup JTAG to the device ? |
| 18:29.05 | TimRiker | they are all about the same price. look for a good seller, with the extras you want. |
| 18:29.34 | TimRiker | [g2]: no. just using usb flash utilities and root shell access at present. |
| 18:29.57 | TimRiker | I'm with t-mobile, so I just moved my sim from my blackberry. |
| 18:30.20 | [g2] | right, I'd like to just use my sim from the cell phone to play |
| 18:30.32 | TimRiker | does the a780 have the same stretching stylus? |
| 18:30.39 | [g2] | until it all _just works right_ :-) |
| 18:31.12 | stefan_schmidt | TimRiker: yes |
| 18:31.13 | TimRiker | pros cons... a780 has quad band, some have edge. cover over the touchscreen, numeric buttons. |
| 18:31.24 | stefan_schmidt | gps |
| 18:31.34 | TimRiker | e680i has stereo bluetooth support and a real sd slot. |
| 18:31.36 | [g2] | a780 has gps ? |
| 18:31.41 | stefan_schmidt | no fm radio |
| 18:31.49 | TimRiker | ah yes, a780 has gps and map software. |
| 18:32.22 | stefan_schmidt | a780 has Transflash/MicroSD only |
| 18:32.23 | TimRiker | ah yes. e680i has fm radio, but you need the headphones to use it. it uses the headphone ground as the antenna. |
| 18:33.24 | TimRiker | looks like the e680 is taller and skinnier by a touch. weight and size are very close. |
| 18:33.26 | [g2] | are they all running the same processors ? |
| 18:33.30 | TimRiker | what's the display size difference? |
| 18:33.33 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: btw, do you had time to look into gpsd port? |
| 18:33.33 | [g2] | pxa25x ? |
| 18:33.39 | [g2] | or pxa27x |
| 18:33.44 | stefan_schmidt | pxa27X |
| 18:34.03 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt congrats on all the great work so far |
| 18:34.25 | stefan_schmidt | display size should be the same. But i'am not sure. |
| 18:34.34 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: thanks |
| 18:35.21 | [g2] | stefan_schmidt speaking of the Transflash any luck with the drivers ? |
| 18:36.07 | uwehermann | stefan_schmidt: I've looked at the SDL patch from alebm. Any reason it's for libsdl 1.2.7? The latest version is 1.2.9... |
| 18:36.19 | uwehermann | stefan_schmidt: I'll try porting a few SDL apps soon. |
| 18:36.21 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: Not at the moment. The standard kernel drivers should work, but don't do. |
| 18:37.05 | stefan_schmidt | I think alebm has started porting some time ago. |
| 18:37.05 | [g2] | anyone know how open the Transflash spec is ? |
| 19:21.19 | ao2 | stefan_schmidt, no, sorry |
| 19:40.46 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: no problem. perhaps i take a look myself. |
| 19:41.50 | stefan_schmidt | hmm, perhaps not. Semester starts agin this week, so i'll be busy the next days. :) |
| 19:44.22 | stefan_schmidt | [g2]: i'am not sure, but transflash is microSD, so i think there are not very big changes against normal SD. |
| 19:52.42 | TimRiker | blkhawk: what's the format of the logo partition then? |
| 20:08.36 | TimRiker | hmm. gunzip < /dev/mtdblock3 > /dev/fb0 at least is a viewable image. upside down and shifted, but viewable. |
| 20:11.15 | stefan_schmidt | Here is thread blkhawk explains some more details: |
| 20:11.18 | stefan_schmidt | http://www.motorolafans.com/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=592&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=logo&start=20 |
| 20:11.50 | stefan_schmidt | Seem to be gzipped framebuffer raw format. |
| 20:13.39 | stefan_schmidt | oh, i see you got it yourself. |
| 20:14.00 | TimRiker | it's got a header on it, but not one I recognise |
| 20:25.55 | TimRiker | hmm. it appears to be a 16 bit windows bmp format that gimp and most other apps don't recognise. |
| 20:35.47 | stefan_schmidt | night folks. |
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| 22:09.45 | TimRiker | http://rikers.org/hellomoto.bmp |
| 22:10.28 | TimRiker | that one's not quite right as the left hand line should be on the right. |
| 22:15.00 | TimRiker | seems that the header on the built in image claims it is 8 bit even though it's 16 bit. |
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