| 00:00.06 | stefan_schmidt | openezx is the first channel i for more then one question. :) |
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| 00:00.25 | webmind | ok |
| 00:00.28 | webmind | it's very irc generic actually.. it's something of freenode |
| 00:00.33 | stefan_schmidt | I do the most things on ml |
| 00:00.44 | webmind | but you can use that command to get ops |
| 00:00.47 | webmind | ok |
| 00:00.50 | stefan_schmidt | ok |
| 00:01.24 | webmind | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.28 | webmind | might also be of use |
| 00:02.59 | webmind | you also might want to register youtr nick :) |
| 00:03.18 | webmind | but I'm off watching demos again |
| 00:03.19 | stefan_schmidt | i think i'll read some helps and webpages about irc tomorrow. |
| 00:03.20 | webmind | cya |
| 00:03.29 | webmind | ok |
| 00:03.29 | stefan_schmidt | bye |
| 00:03.40 | webmind | if you have any questions.. you can also ask :) |
| 00:03.47 | stefan_schmidt | thanks |
| 00:29.52 | LaF0rge | unfortunately transflash still doesn't work on a780 |
| 00:31.55 | LaF0rge | schade |
| 00:33.48 | stefan_schmidt | Is transflash so different to SD? |
| 00:34.29 | stefan_schmidt | Meaning, is kernel support missed here or other problems? |
| 00:36.20 | stefan_schmidt | If kernel support is missd here we should trigger moto again to release the code _soon_ |
| 00:37.36 | stefan_schmidt | After that we can merge the needed bits into main. |
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| 00:44.31 | LaF0rge | no, it's something hardware related... |
| 00:44.50 | LaF0rge | sd == transflash on an electrical level |
| 00:45.09 | LaF0rge | but there's some sublte difference between a780 and e680 apparently |
| 00:45.15 | stefan_schmidt | ok |
| 00:45.31 | stefan_schmidt | transflash == MicroSD == SD :) |
| 00:45.44 | LaF0rge | == triflash |
| 00:46.13 | stefan_schmidt | whats that? To many marketing names in my opinion |
| 00:48.15 | LaF0rge | but the e680 should be able to mount root on mmc/sd |
| 00:48.24 | LaF0rge | the partitions are recognized |
| 00:48.37 | stefan_schmidt | cool |
| 00:54.53 | stefan_schmidt | I just want remember you to release your tree before leaving to brazil. I like to take a look at it. :) |
| 00:56.48 | LaF0rge | yes |
| 01:07.56 | stefan_schmidt | night |
| 02:06.23 | stefan_schmidt | ysakaed: Can you give me more information? Do you use the libSDL from alebm? |
| 02:07.12 | stefan_schmidt | I tried this some time ago but run into trouble. |
| 02:07.45 | stefan_schmidt | Patches are very welcome :) |
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| 07:20.42 | LaF0rge | re |
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| 08:51.32 | ao2 | good morning |
| 10:08.35 | ao2 | a silly funny thing: the IPv6 prefix of openezx.org starts with 2001:780 <-- :) |
| 10:11.42 | stefan_schmidt | :) |
| 10:11.51 | stefan_schmidt | good morning |
| 10:46.29 | webmind | morning |
| 10:55.55 | LaF0rge | ao2: yes, that's the prefix of my ipv6 prefix ;) |
| 10:57.00 | LaF0rge | we could have it end in 680:760:732:728 ;) |
| 10:58.53 | ao2 | I know :) |
| 11:00.43 | ao2 | one of the many benefits of IPv6 |
| 11:02.19 | ao2 | LaF0rge, did you make any photo of your running 2.6 kernel? |
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| 11:51.45 | LaF0rge | ao: no, i have better stuff to do than taking photos |
| 11:53.54 | LaF0rge | ao: but you can check http://svn.gnumonks.org/trunk/a780/doc/stuart-bootlog-26165.txt |
| 11:57.07 | blkhawk | LaF0rge: looks like you got the 2.6 to partially boot? |
| 12:06.27 | LaF0rge | it's a matter of some device drivers |
| 12:09.03 | LaF0rge | on the e680 i have working mmc/sd support - but not transflash on the a780 |
| 12:16.22 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: You could not see much on such a photo. Tiny font and tuxlogo. I've only had taken photos because of missinf serial console. |
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| 12:16.46 | stefan_schmidt | Richew: hi |
| 12:17.57 | Richew | may i ask what's the channel dedicated for modding a780?.. like increasing volume, etc. |
| 12:19.38 | Richew | buzz! |
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| 12:21.11 | stefan_schmidt | Richew: The most time we are talking about bootloader and kernel changes to get a system with complete free software. |
| 12:23.53 | ao2 | ok, the bootlog is enough, indeed, I'm reading it |
| 12:24.02 | stefan_schmidt | Richew: http://www.motorolafans.com/ is a good source for "normal system" questions. |
| 12:25.20 | ao2 | LaF0rge, talking about debian, i was looking about udpkg and .udeb packages, do you think this way cold be the one for a tiny debian system on our phones? |
| 12:31.25 | LaF0rge | possibly |
| 13:02.49 | LaF0rge | stefan: http://ganesha.gnumonks.org/~laforge/tmp/2.6.16.5-ezx_patchset.tar.bz2 |
| 13:03.00 | LaF0rge | just use that with vanille 2.6.16.5 and quilt |
| 13:29.45 | blkhawk | LaF0rge: have fun on your trip |
| 13:47.16 | stefan_schmidt | LaF0rge: thanks |
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| 13:52.31 | stefan_schmidt | LaF0rge: I'll take a look in the evening. Hope you find some time on your trip to relax. |
| 13:59.20 | LaF0rge | thanks. relaxation is not the purpose of the trip, though |
| 14:11.16 | stefan_schmidt | fisl, right? |
| 14:15.22 | stefan_schmidt | oh, you've a talk about ezx. Same as 22C3? |
| 14:15.39 | stefan_schmidt | of course updated |
| 14:22.53 | LaF0rge | eys |
| 14:22.54 | LaF0rge | yes |
| 14:25.08 | stefan_schmidt | added to current events in the wiki. Perhaps some brazil guys read the wiki, too. :) |
| 14:26.36 | blkhawk | hehe |
| 14:26.54 | blkhawk | the talk at 22c3 was was pointed me to get an A780 |
| 14:27.02 | stefan_schmidt | :) |
| 14:31.57 | LaF0rge | in india somebody asked me to sign his a780 |
| 14:32.26 | stefan_schmidt | :) |
| 14:32.40 | stefan_schmidt | Perhaps he happy runs your 2.6 now. ;) |
| 14:38.49 | jonwil | Wouldnt it be cool if Motorola decide to use our "port" to 2.6 on ezx phones...? :) |
| 14:39.03 | jonwil | although they might be doing their own 2.6 port |
| 14:39.04 | jonwil | internally |
| 14:45.30 | blkhawk | O_o |
| 14:45.40 | blkhawk | thats extremely nice |
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| 14:58.05 | ao2 | http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cablesonline/usbfemgencha.html |
| 15:02.01 | ao2 | I was trying to boot the 2.6 kernel too, but boot_usb fails, the last text on output was: |
| 15:02.15 | ao2 | TX: 4105 bytes |
| 15:02.15 | ao2 | RX: ACKBIN ( 02 41 43 4b 1e 42 49 4e 00) |
| 15:02.15 | ao2 | TX: ADDRA048F000B3 ( 02 41 44 44 52 1e 41 30 34 38 46 30 30 30 42 33 03) |
| 15:02.15 | ao2 | RX: ACKADDR,A048F000B3 ( 02 41 43 4b 1e 41 44 44 52 2c 41 30 34 38 46 30 30 30 42 33 00) |
| 15:02.15 | ao2 | TX: 1043 bytes |
| 15:02.15 | ao2 | RX: ERR� ( 02 45 52 52 1e 84 00) |
| 15:02.17 | ao2 | TX: JUMPA020000093 ( 02 4a 55 4d 50 1e 41 30 32 30 30 30 30 30 39 33 03) |
| 15:02.19 | ao2 | RX: ACKJUMP,A020000093 ( 02 41 43 4b 1e 4a 55 4d 50 2c 41 30 32 30 30 30 30 30 39 33 00) |
| 15:03.02 | LaF0rge | do you have the latest boot_usb version? |
| 15:03.26 | ao2 | from your svn repository I got it an hour ago |
| 15:10.29 | LaF0rge | strange |
| 15:10.40 | LaF0rge | you tried the zImage from my directory? |
| 15:11.16 | ao2 | I compiled it myself |
| 15:11.23 | ao2 | i will try your image |
| 15:11.32 | ao2 | zImage |
| 15:16.46 | ao2 | dumb me... i was using the uncompressed vmlinux, please pardon me. The kernel boots fine, and also with FLAG value _different_ than 7c7c7c7c |
| 15:18.06 | ao2 | FLAG=0x3c1c3c7c |
| 15:21.46 | ao2 | now I have a strange FLAG=0xc0000000 |
| 15:22.05 | ao2 | and the phone does not boot anymore in nomral more, due to very low battery, i presume |
| 15:22.35 | ao2 | i meant: normal mode |
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| 15:47.52 | blkhawk | lo TimRiker |
| 15:58.05 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: i had the same effect yesterday. |
| 15:59.07 | stefan_schmidt | same value and no normal boot because of low power. |
| 15:59.39 | stefan_schmidt | i guess the powermanagement did not work propely at the moment. |
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| 16:08.12 | uwehermann | hi |
| 16:10.24 | stefan_schmidt | hi |
| 16:11.03 | stefan_schmidt | LaF0rge: wow, i thought to wait longer for this message. |
| 16:14.35 | uwehermann | ok, I think I have enough time to try usb_boot. Anything I should take care of? I don't want to toast my A780... |
| 16:14.49 | TimRiker | has anyone put up a page on the various CG's? what's in them, where they go, etc? |
| 16:19.20 | stefan_schmidt | uwehermann: Not if you use the precompiled zImages or build the kernel with standard config. |
| 16:19.46 | stefan_schmidt | You only have to be carefull if you like to tweak this config. |
| 16:20.11 | stefan_schmidt | http://www.datenfreihafen.org/~stefan/weblog//archives/2006/04/#e2006-04-10T17_35_04.txt |
| 16:20.45 | stefan_schmidt | TimRiker: What do you mean with CG? |
| 16:24.20 | TimRiker | from the motorola firware updates, the "code groups" contain the various pieces of the flash. |
| 16:24.48 | TimRiker | they also appear to contain the flash partitions for the BP. |
| 16:26.01 | TimRiker | I'm wondering where the "HelloMoto" image on startup is. I see the China Mobile firmware has another startup and shutdown animation, but still has the HelloMoto image on power up. |
| 16:26.41 | TimRiker | I'm wondering if they included this right in the blob image. I can't seem to get anything useful out of the "logo partition" on my phone. |
| 16:27.23 | LaF0rge | timriker: there's a flash partition called 'Logo' ;) |
| 16:27.44 | TimRiker | yes, that's what I refer to. I can't seem to find a logo in that partition. |
| 16:27.51 | LaF0rge | hm |
| 16:28.01 | stefan_schmidt | 126 drivers/video/fbcon.c #define LOGO_ADDR 0x1fc0000 |
| 16:28.18 | TimRiker | I found what appears to be a white image file. but not the hellomoto image I was expecting. |
| 16:28.37 | LaF0rge | 0x1fc sounds like the offset into that flash partition (flash start at 0) |
| 16:39.04 | uwehermann | gaah, my transflash card is broken. looks like dead sectors or something... |
| 16:39.18 | uwehermann | sd 1:0:0:1: SCSI error: return code = 0x8000002 |
| 16:39.20 | uwehermann | sdc: Current: sense key=0x3 |
| 16:39.20 | uwehermann | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:39.20 | uwehermann | end_request: I/O error, dev sdc, sector 494074 |
| 16:40.28 | ao2 | it's "just" a driver problem, from what i understood |
| 16:41.05 | uwehermann | hm, I don't think so. I tried to dd the whole card and got massive problems... |
| 16:41.13 | uwehermann | will try in an SD-card reader now.. |
| 16:41.57 | ao2 | ah, ok |
| 16:42.54 | TimRiker | you trying over the usb link to the phone? or with another reader? |
| 16:43.12 | TimRiker | I've had trouble with some of the readers under linux. |
| 16:44.17 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:45.50 | uwehermann | TimRiker: I got the errors when attaching the phone, which has the transflash card inserted. will try to put it into an external SD card reader now. I used that reader previously, so I know it works. |
| 16:46.04 | TimRiker | k |
| 16:48.11 | stefan_schmidt | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:49.11 | uwehermann | stefan_schmidt: nice :) I was considering writing an article for linux magazine, too... |
| 16:51.17 | uwehermann | aah, strange. Using dd to copy the transflash card in my external reader _does_ work fine. |
| 16:51.21 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:00.14 | stefan_schmidt | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:01.26 | TimRiker | yeah, I don't have much to say yet. :) |
| 17:02.15 | LaF0rge | tim: do you also have an ezx phone? |
| 17:02.42 | TimRiker | I have an e680i |
| 17:03.05 | LaF0rge | tim: oh, great |
| 17:03.33 | TimRiker | I might pick up an a780 at some point too. |
| 17:04.16 | stefan_schmidt | TimRiker: If you like to investigate some time in this project, i like to see you help out with the reblob problem. |
| 17:04.20 | stefan_schmidt | :) |
| 17:07.33 | LaF0rge | i'm very confident that some friends of mine will get the TF working while I'm gone |
| 17:07.58 | TimRiker | gone? |
| 17:08.17 | TimRiker | what about gprs nfsroot? ;-) /me is kidding. |
| 17:08.46 | LaF0rge | timriker: I'm travelling to FISL and the GPLv3 conf in Porto Alegre |
| 17:08.52 | TimRiker | LaF0rge: are you really looking for nfsroot over usb or would pivot_root be enough? |
| 17:09.35 | TimRiker | LaF0rge: ah. have fun. |
| 17:10.33 | TimRiker | LaF0rge: what's the plan for gprs etc with the 2.6 kernel? do we have enough info to replace the non-gpl kernel modules? |
| 17:12.12 | TimRiker | also, could we put root on sd/mmc for now? once booted usbnet can give you remote access to the fs. |
| 17:13.05 | stefan_schmidt | TimRiker: You are on openezx dev list? |
| 17:13.21 | stefan_schmidt | http://lists.gnumonks.org/pipermail/openezx-devel/2006-April/000223.html |
| 17:13.36 | stefan_schmidt | On e680 SD/MMC should work. |
| 17:15.20 | LaF0rge | timriker: yes, we can replace the modules. mux_cli and gprsv are both not very complex |
| 17:15.43 | LaF0rge | however, first we need to get other stuff working. as it seems, userspace doesn't really work yet |
| 17:15.59 | LaF0rge | and transflash/a780 as well as usb-device support is important, too |
| 17:16.10 | uwehermann | oh great. if the phone is attached via usb and powers off because of low power, it hangs so bad that you have to remove the battery before you can turn it on again. |
| 17:16.15 | LaF0rge | then we can look into camera/sound/... |
| 17:17.12 | LaF0rge | also, most of the mtorola code really really deserves a cleanup :) |
| 17:17.44 | ao2 | LaF0rge, the user space problems with your debian/arm system can be caused by lack of FP emulation in your kernel config? |
| 17:17.52 | uwehermann | this may have been aswered before, but: is there a chance to get usb host working? |
| 17:18.04 | LaF0rge | yes |
| 17:18.27 | LaF0rge | even otg seems possible with the hardware |
| 17:19.31 | uwehermann | great. I'm looing forward to WLAN via an USB dongle :) |
| 17:21.26 | LaF0rge | i think it will draw too much power |
| 17:21.53 | uwehermann | yes, sure, but it's nice nevertheless. |
| 17:24.57 | blkhawk | LaF0rgE: i'm sure a nice external power source can be rigged ;) |
| 17:25.33 | ao2 | a car battery in the knapsack... |
| 17:25.53 | blkhawk | ya ;) |
| 17:26.14 | blkhawk | but seriously li-ion cellphone batterys are a dime a dozend |
| 17:26.47 | blkhawk | why not use a bit of duct tape to stich the wlan stich to its powersource |
| 17:28.28 | blkhawk | playing Farcry with my brothers friends == fun |
| 17:28.34 | blkhawk | i came in second |
| 17:28.42 | blkhawk | wrong channel ;) |
| 17:35.50 | TimRiker | I've used a powered usb hub on other OTG systems. so that the pegasus or other usb ethernet card draws power from the hub. |
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| 18:52.31 | uwehermann | LaF0rge: is boot_usb GPL'd? There's no license note in the code... |
| 19:02.13 | TimRiker | uwehermann: yes. the web page and annoucement said it was. |
| 19:03.04 | uwehermann | TimRiker: ok, thanks. the code should say so, too, though. |
| 19:03.55 | TimRiker | agreed. |
| 19:40.11 | LaF0rge | uwe/tim: yes, will add it |
| 19:41.08 | LaF0rge | done |
| 19:42.06 | uwehermann | thanks |
| 20:50.07 | webmind | gnite |
| 21:09.55 | blkhawk | night |
| 21:13.26 | ao2 | bye |
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| 22:38.27 | jonwil | hi |
| 22:40.03 | blkhawk[zzz] | lo |