| 00:11.53 | kergoth | Pendalar: hey! i reproduced your glibc failure |
| 00:16.41 | kergoth | Pendalar: heh, we're applying a patch that makes an arm glibc build only succeed if you're using 2.5/2.6 kernel headers |
| 00:19.03 | ljp | cool gnome vs. kde |
| 00:25.47 | ljp | I always like the Motif argument in a kde vs. gnome argument |
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| 00:52.55 | treke | there biznitches |
| 00:52.57 | treke | kernel commited |
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| 01:41.21 | kergoth | wtf |
| 01:41.35 | kergoth | they replaced the libnet 1.1 tarball, same filename, but changed configure.in and the source directory name |
| 01:41.38 | kergoth | fuckers |
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| 02:12.02 | kergoth | gawel: re |
| 02:28.37 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:42.18 | chouimat | kergoth: ping |
| 02:42.21 | kergoth | chouimat: pong |
| 02:42.38 | chouimat | kergoth: want another apocalyptica video? |
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| 03:14.46 | kergoth | U familiar/dist/ipkg/C/test/status |
| 03:14.46 | kergoth | tarfn is cvs.handhelds.org_familiar.dist.ipkg_V0-99-84.tar.gz |
| 03:14.58 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:15.16 | kergoth | stores each checkout into a tarball, and passes that filename on to unpack |
| 03:15.28 | treke|home | cool. bought a dvdr for my workstation |
| 03:15.29 | kergoth | nice |
| 03:15.47 | kergoth | hmm |
| 03:15.48 | treke|home | I've been wanting to get one for backing up oe builds |
| 03:15.51 | kergoth | wonder how to handle HEAD checkouts |
| 03:16.06 | treke|home | for mirrong? |
| 03:16.19 | kergoth | guess it should probably date/time stamp the tarball, but theres no way for a head build i do tomorrow to find the tarball from yesterday's checkout |
| 03:16.37 | treke|home | Some kind of unique build id? |
| 03:16.38 | kergoth | itd have to do another checkout again |
| 03:16.50 | kergoth | treke: well, thats the thing, we'd have to *write* an item of metadata out somewhere |
| 03:16.58 | kergoth | but oe's metadata handling doesnt support that |
| 03:17.15 | kergoth | course we could just echo it into a little file |
| 03:17.18 | kergoth | in its WORKDIR |
| 03:17.34 | Pendalar | bah my 2.7mb email got sent back |
| 03:17.40 | Pendalar | filesize too big =-/ |
| 03:17.42 | Pendalar | figures |
| 03:17.43 | kergoth | hehe, we'll collect a shitload of head date/time stamped tarballs in our mirrors |
| 03:18.00 | Pendalar | since you reproduced it, do you still need my log? |
| 03:18.03 | kergoth | Pendalar: nope |
| 03:18.09 | kergoth | Pendalar: repro'd, and about to check in the fix |
| 03:18.26 | kergoth | also fixed e2fsprogs-libs-1.33, which would fail, but only randomly |
| 03:18.29 | Pendalar | cool =-) |
| 03:18.37 | kergoth | have an oemake -a running |
| 03:18.53 | Pendalar | random failures are hard to track |
| 03:19.03 | kergoth | yeah |
| 03:19.16 | kergoth | once i finally encountered it, i checked the log and discovered what was causing it |
| 03:19.21 | kergoth | shouldnt happen now |
| 03:19.21 | Pendalar | so I should just clean out tmp and wait for your push? |
| 03:19.25 | kergoth | yeah |
| 03:19.37 | kergoth | actually, i already pushed that fix |
| 03:19.40 | kergoth | i have other fixes pending |
| 03:19.56 | Pendalar | busy eh? |
| 03:20.10 | Pendalar | about how long til all of them are pushed? |
| 03:20.15 | kergoth | yeah. rewriting the cvs fetch code, running an oemake -a build, etc |
| 03:24.23 | NS-Home | how old a palm does it need to be? |
| 03:25.59 | Captain-Obvious | POS 3.5 or older |
| 03:26.22 | Pendalar | I did have a IIIx with 3.1 but it was stolen =-e |
| 03:26.25 | Pendalar | back in the day |
| 03:27.01 | NS-Home | I have a palm v that I use for diary and stuff while I get used to the zaurus |
| 03:28.01 | Captain-Obvious | the newest pos pda that I've crashed was a handspring visor that was running POS 3.5 |
| 03:28.03 | Pendalar | I learned something about diary's/blogs about 10 years ago, no one cares what you think |
| 03:28.08 | Captain-Obvious | lol |
| 03:28.35 | Pendalar | I had a m505 right before I bought my zaurus 1.5ish yr ago |
| 03:28.41 | kergoth | heh, i've never been interested in even having a personal site |
| 03:28.47 | kergoth | much less a blog |
| 03:28.59 | kergoth | i've never really felt like i had much anyone would want to read, much less regularly |
| 03:29.04 | kergoth | heheh |
| 03:29.07 | NS-Home | diary as in where I need to be and when :) |
| 03:29.10 | Pendalar | my luck some freak would read the blog and hunt me down or something |
| 03:29.13 | NS-Home | not my personal ramblings |
| 03:29.22 | Pendalar | ah that's good |
| 03:29.31 | Pendalar | too many people rambling for anyone to care =-) |
| 03:29.42 | kergoth | fuck |
| 03:29.44 | kergoth | ran out of hd space |
| 03:29.59 | NS-Home | as I have only just got a zaurus about a week ago |
| 03:30.10 | NS-Home | clearly I needed to buy another one 2 days ago |
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| 03:31.16 | Pendalar | kergoth: I imagined you to have about a raid with about 6 120gb'rs |
| 03:31.27 | Pendalar | and some nifty firewire ones on the side |
| 03:31.37 | Pendalar | 4 LCD moniters ;-) |
| 03:32.28 | Pendalar | I've been sitting in #gentoo-embedded for like 4 days now and I have yet to see anyone talk.. despite there being 25 people in the channel |
| 03:34.14 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:34.26 | kergoth | i have a few multichannel raid controllers, but only small drives |
| 03:34.33 | kergoth | i havent spent money on computer hardware in -years- |
| 03:35.11 | Pendalar | neither have I, sadly it hasn't been a choice |
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| 03:36.03 | Pendalar | the only things I've bought within the past year is : zaurus, 256mb CF, 64mb SD, wifi CF, memory card reader, and getting a clearanced GPS unit for christmas =-P |
| 03:36.20 | kestrel | hi to all, has anyone tried building an ipk package successfully? I tried but I kept on getting some error messages |
| 03:36.21 | Pendalar | to make most of that happen I had to sell all my PalmSource crap and other stuff |
| 03:36.53 | Pendalar | I assume plenty of people have built ipkgs... but I'm not to that point yet |
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| 03:37.31 | Pendalar | glibc fails still with a fresh bk pull |
| 03:38.52 | NS-Home | you need to build up patcher first |
| 03:39.00 | NS-Home | and then autoconf / automake |
| 03:39.13 | Pendalar | yeah that's the order it's doing it |
| 03:39.17 | Pendalar | a new problem I think |
| 03:39.20 | kestrel | i tried INHERIT="package_ipk" oebuild apmd/apmd_3.2.0.oe --- and I got error messages |
| 03:39.32 | kestrel | oe-exported/bin/oebuild", line 179, |
| 03:39.32 | kestrel | in ? |
| 03:39.32 | kestrel | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:39.41 | kestrel | File "./oe/build.py", line 258, in exec_task |
| 03:39.41 | kestrel | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:39.43 | NS-Home | I have glibc building here with a bk pull from about 30 mins ago |
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| 03:40.00 | kestrel | TypeError: an integer is required |
| 03:40.02 | kestrel | any clues? |
| 03:40.17 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 03:40.20 | kestrel | I've already built glibc and its dependencies... and I've also build apmd (no ipk) |
| 03:40.24 | kergoth | ipk creation is quirky |
| 03:40.35 | chouimat | kergoth: see you monday ;) |
| 03:40.35 | kergoth | Pendalar: i just built it 5 minutes ago. |
| 03:40.38 | kergoth | Pendalar: oebuild clean it, then build it again |
| 03:40.38 | Pendalar | =-d hm |
| 03:40.50 | kestrel | i also tried rebuilding apmd |
| 03:41.07 | NS-Home | and how do I go about building an installable image for my 750? |
| 03:41.59 | Pendalar | just on glibc's .oe's or all of em? |
| 03:42.13 | kestrel | yup, I keep on getting the same error on apmd --- try it! |
| 03:42.26 | NS-Home | well I have installed 3.3.5 and the kernel and the modules have mismatched symbols |
| 03:42.41 | NS-Home | so I am off to play with a build from scratch |
| 03:42.58 | NS-Home | and wondered how to get from a pile of compiled bits to an image to flash |
| 03:43.09 | kestrel | may I know which packages can be packaged to ipks? |
| 03:45.55 | kestrel | bugs |
| 03:47.41 | kestrel | ha... i guess i'll just use the OZ buildroot's ipks... |
| 03:48.56 | kestrel | to the maintainers of OE: do you have any plans of posting your sources for the tools (i.e. oebuild) ? |
| 03:50.04 | cyn_ | ? |
| 03:50.31 | kergoth | kestrel: uh |
| 03:50.31 | kergoth | kestrel: oebuild is a python script. |
| 03:50.34 | cyn_ | yeah I was gunna say |
| 03:50.36 | kergoth | kestrel: it *is* the source. |
| 03:50.48 | kestrel | oh... not familiar with python... |
| 03:50.54 | kergoth | vi bin/oebuild |
| 03:50.54 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:51.43 | kestrel | i thought it's a binary... |
| 03:52.13 | cyn_ | it is text |
| 03:54.58 | kestrel | hmm, i just tried packaging e2fsprogs --- and i got this error "ipkg-build: command not found" ---- it's looking for this... but i couldn't find it in the OE dir |
| 03:55.35 | kestrel | i've just used the script named env-dev-arm-oe.source |
| 03:55.48 | kergoth | kestrel: build ipkg-utils |
| 03:55.56 | kergoth | ipkg-utils provides ipkg-build |
| 03:56.54 | kestrel | hmm.. ok, oebuild showdata e2fsprogs/e2fsprogs_1.34.oe | grep ^DEPENDS doesn't show that... |
| 03:56.59 | kestrel | thanks! |
| 03:58.13 | kergoth | i know it doesnt, the package_ipk class is supposed to be adding to the depends, but isnt |
| 03:58.16 | kergoth | its a bug |
| 03:58.18 | kergoth | np |
| 03:59.47 | ljp | zap it |
| 04:00.48 | Pendalar | glibc still fails here |
| 04:00.57 | Pendalar | even with clean |
| 04:01.13 | kestrel | Pendalar: what's the error? |
| 04:01.18 | Pendalar | ccache arm-linux-gcc ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm/ioperm.c -c -std=gnu99 -O2 -Wall -Winline -Wst$ |
| 04:01.18 | Pendalar | ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm/ioperm.c: In function `init_iosys': |
| 04:01.18 | Pendalar | ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm/ioperm.c:103: error: `CTL_BUS_ISA' undeclared (first use in this fu$ |
| 04:01.18 | Pendalar | ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm/ioperm.c:103: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only o$ |
| 04:01.18 | Pendalar | ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm/ioperm.c:103: error: for each function it appears in.) |
| 04:01.19 | Pendalar | ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm/ioperm.c:103: error: initializer element is not constant |
| 04:01.21 | Pendalar | ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm/ioperm.c:103: error: (near initialization for `iobase_name[1]') |
| 04:01.23 | Pendalar | ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm/ioperm.c:104: error: initializer element is not constant |
| 04:01.25 | Pendalar | ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm/ioperm.c:104: error: (near initialization for `ioshift_name[1]') |
| 04:01.27 | Pendalar | shit didn't think I copied that much |
| 04:01.29 | Pendalar | surry |
| 04:01.37 | Pendalar | same as before |
| 04:01.49 | Pendalar | init_iosys stuffs |
| 04:02.00 | kestrel | hmmm, i never encountered that error before... |
| 04:02.47 | kergoth | Pendalar: hmm, maybe i didnt push it |
| 04:02.48 | kergoth | hold on |
| 04:05.00 | Pendalar | http://69.40.81.51/log.tar.bz2 if you want it |
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| 04:05.51 | kergoth | Pendalar: k, bk pull |
| 04:06.03 | kergoth | Pendalar: then clean and rebuild glibc |
| 04:06.25 | Pendalar | does clean actually do much more than wack the tmp area? |
| 04:07.01 | kergoth | clean of a single package wipes tmp/base/${PN}-${PV}-${PR} and its stamps from tmp/stamps |
| 04:07.22 | Pendalar | I always rm -rf tmp/* before I try again anyways |
| 04:07.39 | ljp | cant you get those bug zappers to help out? |
| 04:08.25 | Pendalar | I'm just here to create more problems, sorry |
| 04:19.02 | treke|home | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:19.14 | treke|home | since it will obviously fail with most toolchains |
| 04:20.46 | ljp | ya.. who needs a pesky kernel anyway |
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| 04:21.57 | Pendalar | heh |
| 04:22.05 | Pendalar | "kernels are overrated" (tm) |
| 04:24.21 | Pendalar | please make glibc compile faster *grin* |
| 04:24.22 | ljp | they are |
| 04:24.40 | ljp | use teambuilder |
| 04:25.00 | Pendalar | distributed network sort of thing? |
| 04:25.06 | ljp | yes |
| 04:25.16 | ljp | a but like distcc.. but better |
| 04:25.21 | Pendalar | my other box is xp |
| 04:25.29 | Pendalar | sadly, as per wife |
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| 04:25.34 | ljp | tt is working on that |
| 04:26.14 | Pendalar | kinda sucks because it's 400mhz higher and it does nothing but collect dust at least 25 days of the month or so |
| 04:27.22 | ljp | yes. but there is a wife attached |
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| 04:28.41 | Pendalar | again, sadly |
| 04:29.18 | Pendalar | I don't mind it when I'm not compiling.. linux can do what I want with a lot less mhz than what XP needs for generally the same workload |
| 04:35.21 | Pendalar | I don't quite follow.. |
| 04:35.39 | Pendalar | or I don't want to follow, not sure |
| 04:35.49 | Pendalar | either way if you are mocking me, be nice |
| 04:35.53 | Pendalar | ;-0 |
| 04:50.24 | Captain-Obvious | hmmm |
| 04:50.39 | Captain-Obvious | these people want too much for these old PDAS |
| 04:52.13 | Pendalar | I'd give you my IIIx for free if I still had it |
| 04:52.15 | Pendalar | =-( |
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| 05:31.05 | treke|home | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:33.46 | Captain-Obvious | treke: this time last year I had ) pdas |
| 05:33.53 | Captain-Obvious | s/)/0 |
| 05:33.57 | Captain-Obvious | now I have 3 |
| 05:33.58 | treke|home | and... |
| 05:34.17 | Captain-Obvious | and if I find a POS pda, I'll have 4 |
| 05:34.18 | Captain-Obvious | lol |
| 05:34.23 | Captain-Obvious | in less than a year |
| 05:35.42 | Captain-Obvious | hmmm |
| 05:35.56 | Captain-Obvious | hmmm $42 is too much for a P3XE |
| 05:38.34 | Captain-Obvious | I'd like to find POS 3.5 or older palm or handspring pda and be able to keep it less than $40 |
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| 06:15.13 | Pend-Gone | Captain-Obvious: technically it's not POS anymore |
| 06:15.41 | Pend-Gone | that being Palm OS, it's PalmSource (OS) ref'd PalmSource or PSOS |
| 06:15.52 | Captain-Obvious | whatever |
| 06:15.56 | Captain-Obvious | :P |
| 06:16.09 | Pend-Gone | heh I know, just throwing that out there |
| 06:16.16 | Pend-Gone | an old model will say Palm OS though |
| 06:16.21 | Pend-Gone | pre.. OS5 or something |
| 06:16.34 | Pend-Gone | not sure exactly which version was the switch |
| 06:16.53 | Pend-Gone | I know it was around OS5, and newer than 4.1 |
| 06:22.48 | Pend-Gone | wow this build is going well |
| 06:23.16 | Pend-Gone | I'm close to shocked really |
| 06:23.27 | gawel | heh |
| 06:23.35 | gawel | pend: are you building kernel? |
| 06:23.49 | Pend-Gone | no just helping test building normal packages |
| 06:23.54 | Pend-Gone | I assume that's next |
| 06:24.10 | gawel | pend: kernel just got pushed out |
| 06:24.34 | Pend-Gone | 'just' as in how many minutes ago? |
| 06:25.07 | Pend-Gone | I did a pull ~1.5 hours ago |
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| 06:25.25 | gawel | 200312200046 is the timestamp |
| 06:25.44 | Pend-Gone | what time zone =-p |
| 06:25.55 | gawel | i just did rm -rf of staging for fun and profit. seems like new glibc patches are out too |
| 06:26.08 | Pend-Gone | I always rm tmp |
| 06:26.15 | Pend-Gone | just for consistancy |
| 06:26.34 | Pend-Gone | if I was doing it for some lofty goal (my own build etc) I wouldn't |
| 06:26.43 | Pend-Gone | but to help the OE guys.. I figure this is a better way |
| 06:28.07 | Pend-Gone | is there some file I can look at to easily get a build order? |
| 06:29.02 | gawel | sure, grep for DEPENDS= and parse it yerself 8> |
| 06:29.13 | Pend-Gone | =-P no thanks |
| 06:29.38 | Pend-Gone | was trying to grasp where console-tools is on the list for a full build |
| 06:30.22 | gawel | i'm planning to script dot and graphviz to build a purdy dependency map (http://www.graphviz.org/cgi-bin/man?dot) |
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| 06:30.57 | treke|home | apparently he's refusing to add DVD support to the free version so he can sell more copies |
| 06:31.50 | gawel | treke: oh yeah, i've heard that. isnt that joerg dude? |
| 06:32.14 | treke|home | yup |
| 06:34.30 | Pend-Gone | I just hate not having some sort of progress meter |
| 06:34.42 | Pend-Gone | even if it's "now on package __ out of ___" |
| 06:35.48 | gawel | pend: well, write it 8> |
| 06:35.55 | Pend-Gone | I'm not that smart sadly |
| 06:35.57 | Pend-Gone | working on it |
| 06:36.09 | Pend-Gone | else I'd be doing something a bit higher level to help the OE group |
| 06:38.10 | Pend-Gone | first failure kergoth, qte |
| 06:38.16 | Pend-Gone | if you are still around |
| 06:40.16 | Pend-Gone | enginuitor a new troll? |
| 06:44.13 | Pend-Gone | kergoth leave to go home or something? |
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| 06:59.57 | treke|home | gb2: Apparently his reasoning is he doesnt want commercial vendors to steal the source |
| 07:00.00 | Captain-Obvious | troll |
| 07:00.18 | Pend-Gone | make him go away =-( |
| 07:19.00 | Pend-Gone | at anyrate.. |
| 07:19.33 | Pend-Gone | Kergoth download http://69.40.81.51/log.tar.bz2 for info on why qte failed |
| 07:19.46 | Pend-Gone | noticably it's not using the stddef.h from the toolchain if I'm reading it right |
| 07:20.08 | Pend-Gone | tried to use my normal compiler's one which wasn't at the path it expected |
| 07:20.35 | Pend-Gone | /usr/include/string.h:33:20: stddef.h: No such file or directory |
| 07:22.44 | Pend-Gone | 'night |
| 07:26.51 | ljp | weeeeeee |
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| 08:24.23 | treke|home | cool, that was relativly painless |
| 08:25.34 | ljp | hmmm |
| 08:25.47 | ljp | you mean when I stuck a fork in your side? |
| 08:27.00 | treke|home | ljp: getting linux to burn a dvd |
| 08:27.07 | ljp | ahh |
| 08:27.51 | ljp | its weird. these people think its _supposed_ to be hot at christmas |
| 08:35.26 | Captain-Obvious | heh |
| 08:35.50 | Captain-Obvious | I hope no one else wants this pda that I'm bidding on more than I do |
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| 08:36.58 | Captain-Obvious | "You are bidding on a Palm Vx handheld PDA, cradle (which doubles as a charging base), and hardshell aluminum carrying case. This item is used but in excellent condition thanks to being kept in the aluminum case for most of it's life. The screen does not have any scratches. There is one minor scratch on the lower righthand corner of the PDA." |
| 08:37.15 | Captain-Obvious | and the pda's case is made from aluminum |
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| 08:37.35 | Captain-Obvious | its just the right amount of palm pda that I need |
| 08:39.20 | Captain-Obvious | it has POS 3.3 and can be upgraded to 4.1, or so I have heard |
| 08:39.53 | Captain-Obvious | so after I debug the problem with the biz card, I can upgrade it to 4.1 :) |
| 08:42.22 | Captain-Obvious | heh |
| 08:42.46 | Captain-Obvious | then you can send it to me if you win it |
| 08:42.55 | ljp | nope |
| 08:43.17 | Captain-Obvious | I'm getting it to help out with the zaurus |
| 08:43.22 | ljp | I just want to see how high I can get the price |
| 08:43.36 | Captain-Obvious | with out having to pay for it, right? |
| 08:43.38 | Captain-Obvious | lol |
| 08:43.42 | ljp | riiiight |
| 08:44.06 | Captain-Obvious | dang it... |
| 08:44.12 | Captain-Obvious | I've already been out bid |
| 08:44.26 | ljp | that must be treke |
| 08:44.38 | Captain-Obvious | "ewetherall" |
| 08:45.22 | treke|home | that's my last name |
| 08:46.17 | Captain-Obvious | thats funny, I thought your name was Greg Gilbert (at least I think thats what the first g stands for) |
| 08:47.28 | treke|home | I just use the pseudonym to through people off |
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| 09:04.21 | Captain-Obvious | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3065422451&category=38331 |
| 09:04.49 | Captain-Obvious | I'd bid on that one... but its like the couldnt make up thier mind on what to charge for shipping |
| 09:06.41 | Captain-Obvious | now what do you beleve? |
| 09:07.01 | Captain-Obvious | the text of the discription, or the "Shipping and payment details" part? |
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| 12:06.38 | CIA-4 | repository=03buildroot user=11mickey@allanon.vanille.de |
| 12:06.38 | CIA-4 | 07ChangeSet@1.1405 update Python to Version 2.3.3 |
| 12:07.14 | CIA-4 | repository=03buildroot user=11mickey@allanon.vanille.de |
| 12:07.14 | CIA-4 | 07ChangeSet@1.1406 where's netcat, schurig? ;) |
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| 13:28.23 | jeroen__ | I have a C700, any doc's to get started ? I'm looking for bootable image, just barebones, maybe networking ? |
| 13:29.05 | jeroen__ | or: how do I get a filesystem image on the C700, do I have to make an initial ramdisk ? |
| 13:38.02 | mickeyl | http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT2849522069.html |
| 13:40.16 | jeroen__ | # Applications Blood alcohol calculator, right ! |
| 13:40.31 | jeroen__ | that's what missing in opeszaurus ! |
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| 14:18.57 | gyaro | alguien con una zaurus 5600 y openzaurus ? |
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| 15:22.34 | Pendalar | so what time does kergy usually hop on? |
| 15:22.50 | Pendalar | oh wait it's a weekend.. guess it'll be semi-random then |
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| 16:42.27 | treke|home | it's a weekend, he probably wont get on at al |
| 16:42.28 | treke|home | l |
| 16:42.33 | treke|home | no internet access at home |
| 16:42.40 | Pendalar | I thought he got access this week |
| 16:42.49 | Pendalar | I was needing him to look at the qte .oe |
| 16:42.52 | treke|home | did it get fixed? |
| 16:43.05 | pb_ | hi treke |
| 16:43.06 | Pendalar | I don't know, just thought he did |
| 16:43.36 | treke|home | mornin pb |
| 16:43.41 | Pendalar | I think I know what's wrong with it sort of |
| 16:43.48 | Pendalar | but it's just a guess =-) |
| 16:47.19 | Pendalar | who else should I pester about it? |
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| 17:00.04 | Bernardo | hi |
| 17:03.13 | Bernardo | mickeyl: you're generating a new release right now? |
| 17:03.41 | mickeyl | so to speak |
| 17:03.51 | mickeyl | christmas release ;) |
| 17:03.56 | mickeyl | only collie |
| 17:04.09 | Bernardo | :) |
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| 17:04.35 | Pendalar | mickeyl: will kergoth be in any this weekend? |
| 17:04.42 | Pendalar | I've got some qte .oe issues |
| 17:04.47 | Bernardo | I just had to do a e2fsck followed by reboot of mine, just to get wifi working, so I thought of checking if there was anything new... |
| 17:04.54 | mickeyl | treke already told you that he doesn't has inet access at home... so that means no |
| 17:05.19 | Pendalar | I thought he implied he got access |
| 17:05.35 | treke|home | he might have. |
| 17:05.41 | mickeyl | Bernardo: see http://openzaurus.org/official/experimental/collie/3.3.6-pre1-2.4.18-gcc3/README.FIRST |
| 17:05.47 | gb2 | he said something about the cable company waving its arms around i think |
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| 17:06.58 | Bernardo | mickeyl: I noticed you had updated hostap and wireless tools... :) |
| 17:07.19 | Bernardo | unfortunately, my problem is the sd card, it seems |
| 17:07.27 | mickeyl | what problem with SD? |
| 17:07.44 | Bernardo | data corruption, from time to time |
| 17:07.54 | mickeyl | d'oh |
| 17:07.55 | Bernardo | I haven't lost anything yet |
| 17:08.01 | mickeyl | never heard about that |
| 17:08.17 | Bernardo | and it might be because I had to do a hard reset the other day, and the fs got inconsistent |
| 17:08.26 | Bernardo | but e2fsck won't run at boot |
| 17:08.47 | Bernardo | and I only noticed when I started having some strange problems with hostap |
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| 17:10.04 | Bernardo | after checking dmesg and seing some complaints that I should run e2fsck, I did a "mount -o ro -o remount /dev/mmcda1", did a "fsck.ext2 /dev/mmcda1" and it found some discrepancies, some deleted inodes with 0 time, etc. |
| 17:10.11 | noda | Moo! |
| 17:10.25 | Bernardo | after that and a reboot, I was able to use my prism 2.5 card again |
| 17:10.46 | Pendalar | sup noda |
| 17:11.28 | Bernardo | I though that adding a 1 at the end of the line in fstab instead of 0 would allow linux to run the fsck if the fs was inconsistent when it was mounted |
| 17:11.35 | noda | Almost Christmas... |
| 17:11.38 | noda | ...must... shop... |
| 17:11.42 | Pendalar | mickeyl: use the pre-0 initrd for pre-1 I assume ..? |
| 17:11.47 | gb2 | i wonder what the easiest way to clone onto my laptop is |
| 17:11.48 | gb2 | hrm |
| 17:12.50 | mickeyl | Pendalar: no |
| 17:12.57 | mickeyl | Pendalar: wait until upload is complete :D |
| 17:13.10 | Bernardo | mickeyl: the strange part are the entries in dmesg claiming that mmcda1 has changed state |
| 17:13.35 | mickeyl | really odd |
| 17:13.46 | mickeyl | the SD driver is flaky |
| 17:13.49 | mickeyl | as is the rest of the embedix code |
| 17:14.06 | mickeyl | can't wait for someone to port the hh.org SD driver to collie |
| 17:14.07 | mickeyl | ... |
| 17:14.07 | Bernardo | it was worst when I had the card formatted ext2, but the part table claimed it was fat |
| 17:14.32 | Bernardo | mickeyl: where can I download it? |
| 17:14.32 | chouimat | anyone with a Mac here? |
| 17:14.42 | treke|home | yes |
| 17:15.04 | Bernardo | mickeyl: I don't have much free time, but I could give it a try... I never saw a link for a sd driver at hh.org |
| 17:15.22 | treke|home | mickeyl: dont forget husky |
| 17:15.25 | treke|home | :) |
| 17:15.27 | mickeyl | it's in the cvs of course |
| 17:16.15 | Bernardo | it's working for what hardware/distribution? |
| 17:16.20 | mickeyl | ipaqs |
| 17:16.23 | treke|home | some of the ipaqs |
| 17:16.24 | mickeyl | familiar/openipaq |
| 17:22.15 | Bernardo | chouimat: you could try porting sourcemage... :) |
| 17:22.28 | chouimat | Bernardo: not really |
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| 17:25.52 | noda | chouimat: Don't you hate that you have to spend $32/year to declare that you're a physical person? :P |
| 17:26.08 | chouimat | noda: huh? |
| 17:26.26 | noda | chouimat: "Declaration Annuelle: Personne Physique" -- got that in the mail :) |
| 17:26.46 | chouimat | noda: never got that one ... |
| 17:29.40 | treke|home | shit, I'd save myself the 32 bucks |
| 17:30.09 | treke|home | "I'm a figment of your imagination" |
| 17:30.58 | chouimat | treke|home: sometime politician and gov employee have too much imagination |
| 17:33.11 | noda | rofl |
| 17:35.03 | Bernardo | here their imagination is more towards sending threatning letters to everyone, just to see who won't contest and just pay what they ask... |
| 17:36.47 | Bernardo | mickeyl: did I tell you the latest mithro compatibility packages are working form me (only a couple incompatible programs yet) |
| 17:37.23 | mickeyl | Bernardo: ah that's good news. do you have the link handy? need to add that to the README |
| 17:38.36 | Bernardo | just a sec |
| 17:39.06 | Bernardo | http://www.mithis.com/zaurus/ipkgs/ |
| 17:39.19 | noda | chouimat: I'm kinda relieved it's only a $32 thing though. I figured I might be getting audited or something :P |
| 17:39.40 | Bernardo | the packages that didn't work were zethereal and scummvm |
| 17:39.56 | Bernardo | but scummvm might be because of the updated sdl libs |
| 17:40.05 | chouimat | noda: hehe ... I'm currently trying to find a linux distro for mac ... want to give my little brother an a xmas gift |
| 17:40.19 | mickeyl | Bernardo: thanks |
| 17:40.37 | noda | chouimat: You could give him a Fink CD... :) |
| 17:40.51 | noda | chouimat: or.... Debian! :) |
| 17:41.02 | noda | ...or do you want to give him a distro he can install himself ;) |
| 17:41.09 | Bernardo | I installed oz-compat_0.5_arm.ipk and oz-compat-opie_0.1_arm.ipk, I don't know what is the last one for, but everything seems to work |
| 17:41.45 | chouimat | noda: 3rd and I need the distro to work on the new ibook g4 ... (I'm planning to get one so ... I will keep a copy here too :) |
| 17:41.57 | noda | lol |
| 17:42.06 | noda | Why not G5? :) |
| 17:42.22 | chouimat | i need a laptop |
| 17:42.48 | noda | Oh. If I were you, I'd put Debian on my laptop :) |
| 17:42.54 | noda | ...Wait, I *did* put Debian on my laptop :) |
| 17:43.24 | chouimat | noda: yah but my brother only have a 56k link ... so I don't feel like downloading 7 CD ... |
| 17:44.01 | noda | Aaaaaaaaack! Another bill from school! Is it Winter semester already! :( |
| 17:44.02 | mickeyl | k, 3.3.6-pre1 fully uploaded. burn it burn it |
| 17:44.05 | noda | ...just finished fall yesterday. |
| 17:44.08 | noda | $1500 :( |
| 17:44.27 | chouimat | noda: and beside I looked at the specs and the ibook g4 is what i need ... not to fast and long battery life ... |
| 17:44.53 | noda | cool |
| 17:45.05 | noda | I got a Dell Inspiron 600m. Great laptop. |
| 17:45.08 | Bernardo | mickeyl: ok, here we go... |
| 17:45.11 | noda | Showed up in the last Alias this year, too :) |
| 17:45.23 | chouimat | noda: and beside having another arch to play with ... |
| 17:45.29 | noda | chouimat: Oh, I know what you mean :) |
| 17:46.12 | chouimat | noda: and if I can get my hand on an old SGI or sun ... |
| 17:46.43 | noda | Eep... I don't think I can afford an Athlon64 :( |
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| 17:47.35 | chouimat | noda: I want to get one too ... but 5000usd for the one in the november linux mag .... |
| 17:47.56 | noda | chouimat: About $1200 for processor, good mobo and a gig of good ram. |
| 17:48.17 | noda | That's all I'd need. My power supply is already 365 Watts or something. |
| 17:48.24 | chouimat | noda: Girls : what are doing with those 12 computers in the basement? Me: heating the house honey .... |
| 17:48.29 | noda | ...but I've gotta pay this huge tuition... |
| 17:48.33 | noda | lol |
| 17:48.39 | noda | chouimat: 12 computers? |
| 17:48.56 | chouimat | noda: I have already 5 here ... |
| 17:49.08 | noda | Heh. I've got 2 running now :). And my laptop, and my Zaurus. |
| 17:49.52 | noda | Aaaargh, and I've gotta pay for Christmas presents too! |
| 17:49.53 | Pendalar | the initrd finally downloaded.. |
| 17:50.04 | chouimat | noda: 1 P3/667 768MB <-- main box, 1P3/1000 386MB, 1Athlon1.2/512 <--- server and 2 P200MMX |
| 17:50.28 | noda | Geek :P |
| 17:50.31 | Bernardo | I only have 6 machines + the zaurus... |
| 17:50.54 | chouimat | noda: plus zaurus, webpal, palm m125 and the wrt54g |
| 17:51.08 | noda | Aargh, AND I have to pay my VISA! :( |
| 17:51.18 | Bernardo | But I keep my old machines running, so, since I've been building them for the last 10 years... |
| 17:51.24 | chouimat | and I forgot an Amiga 500 and a color computer 3 |
| 17:51.51 | chouimat | Bernardo: those last 2 still works ... and I forgot my Dreamcast too :) |
| 17:52.28 | chouimat | so who need a gf ... with all the eat they produce ... |
| 17:53.32 | chouimat | noda: if i can find an old ultrasparc cheaply on ebay ... |
| 17:53.44 | noda | Ooh, and QST credit... |
| 17:54.29 | noda | OOH, and some Christmas money from my grandparents :) |
| 17:54.48 | chouimat | icefox: little question for you ... I need a linux distro for ppc for some one who is not a computer geek but know how to use linux |
| 17:55.01 | icefox | yellow linux? |
| 17:55.07 | noda | yellow dog :) |
| 17:55.27 | chouimat | icefox: work on the new ibook g4? |
| 17:55.29 | icefox | If there is a debian port.... |
| 17:55.30 | icefox | :) |
| 17:55.47 | icefox | chouimat: oh never tried myself |
| 17:55.52 | icefox | still learning os x |
| 17:56.19 | chouimat | icefox: I want to give that to my little brother ... and if I finaly manage to get an ibook g4 .... |
| 17:56.49 | chouimat | is mandrake good? |
| 17:57.02 | icefox | Will you be setting it up? |
| 17:57.14 | chouimat | icefox: no |
| 17:57.21 | mickeyl | chouimat:; yes |
| 17:57.25 | icefox | oh, hmm yah mandrake is easy from what people say |
| 17:57.33 | chouimat | mickeyl: on ppc to? |
| 17:57.50 | Bernardo | mandrake on x86 is ultra-easy to install |
| 17:57.57 | Bernardo | don't know on ppc. |
| 17:58.21 | chouimat | I have never used it I'm currently using suse and my brother used it too for a while |
| 17:58.40 | Bernardo | mandrake is way easier than suse to install, from my experience |
| 17:58.56 | chouimat | ok I think I will dowload the iso then |
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| 18:08.11 | Pendalar | wow it reconfigures fast |
| 18:08.52 | chouimat | ok it's wget -rnd to get the feed? |
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| 18:16.47 | Pendalar | this image is pretty sweet mickeyl |
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| 18:40.20 | dan2003 | anybody had any luck/experiance using makeqpf ? i can get it to render the fonts i wan but it doesnt save any .qpf files :/ |
| 18:41.48 | dan2003 | i get thisin the condoel for every font i render: Already a ROM font |
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| 19:10.18 | chouimat | mickeyl: where is the pdf reader? |
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| 19:17.38 | mickeyl | qpdf is dead |
| 19:17.42 | mickeyl | ==> qpdf2.sf.net |
| 19:18.53 | chouimat | mickeyl|tv: thanks |
| 19:20.21 | Bernardo | mickeyl|tv: usermanager and oxygen haven't been fixed yet? |
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| 20:06.39 | mickeyl|tv | Bernardo: both have been fixed - but not in BRANCH. BRANCH is dead and I have problems getting HEAD to run on my current images... |
| 20:08.08 | chouimat | hmmm now need to compile qpdf2 .... bah tomorrow |
| 20:08.49 | mickeyl|tv | chouimat: why not try the compat libraries? |
| 20:09.49 | chouimat | mickeyl|tv: don't know |
| 20:12.04 | mickeyl|tv | would be interesting if that works |
| 20:12.11 | mickeyl|tv | mithro for sure likes to know |
| 20:12.35 | mickeyl|tv | commercial break's over... |
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| 20:19.12 | enginuitor | Wow, OZ 3.3.6 is out! |
| 20:19.18 | enginuitor | Less than 2 hours ago |
| 20:19.21 | enginuitor | :D |
| 20:19.30 | enginuitor | And they fixed the Wifi bug... |
| 20:19.33 | enginuitor | And the battery bug... |
| 20:19.40 | enginuitor | So cool! |
| 20:19.47 | enginuitor | I'm flashing right now! |
| 20:20.21 | mickeyl|tv | don't be too happy _before_ you actually tried ;) |
| 20:20.33 | mickeyl | maybe nothing works |
| 20:21.19 | enginuitor | That's true... |
| 20:21.43 | pb_ | mickeyl: heh |
| 20:21.49 | enginuitor | Although somebody I was talking to said the only problem they had was that there was a bunch of annoying debug messages |
| 20:21.51 | mickeyl | hi pb_ |
| 20:22.00 | enginuitor | Well, we shall see... |
| 20:22.03 | chouimat | mickeyl: qpdf2 -2.1.0 work well with compat package |
| 20:22.09 | enginuitor | About 2 minutes of flashing left... |
| 20:22.09 | mickeyl | chouimat: great to knwo! |
| 20:22.22 | mickeyl | chouimat: thanks for confirming. |
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| 20:24.07 | chouimat | mickeyl: the only thing is you need to specify that the application need to use the compat package before running it the first time |
| 20:24.27 | enginuitor | Ah, the lights are out! Here goes the reset... |
| 20:25.57 | mickeyl | enginuitor: my #1 feature for 3.3.6-pre1 is : " - enable to drop off to a console by pressing a key |
| 20:25.58 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:26.07 | enginuitor | !!!! |
| 20:26.11 | mickeyl | no longer having to rename /etc/init.d/opie |
| 20:26.15 | mickeyl | to get a console :) |
| 20:26.16 | enginuitor | Yes!!!! |
| 20:26.38 | enginuitor | That's great, because from 3.3.5 and on, I was never able to get to the terminal by quitting Opie |
| 20:26.54 | enginuitor | it would just hang |
| 20:27.07 | mickeyl | qte fucks with the terminal settings and never resets |
| 20:27.07 | mickeyl | grr |
| 20:27.11 | mickeyl | we'll fix that eventually |
| 20:28.00 | ljp | hmmm |
| 20:28.11 | chouimat | mickeyl: tested with another app ... compat work without flaw so far |
| 20:28.14 | chouimat | ljp: hey |
| 20:28.15 | ljp | I almost actually feel like coding |
| 20:28.49 | enginuitor | Hey, remember when I said it was out like 2 hours ago? Well, turns out today is the 21st... |
| 20:28.49 | mickeyl | ljp: doctab? ;) |
| 20:28.52 | chouimat | ljp take 2 aspirins and that will eventualy pass |
| 20:29.15 | enginuitor | I keep assuming that my computer clock hasn't drifted 25 hours... |
| 20:29.20 | ljp | mickeyl: I looked at that, and the changes from qtopia made it rather difficult |
| 20:29.33 | mickeyl | ah. |
| 20:29.45 | mickeyl | well... gotta rework the whole doc paradigm anyway... |
| 20:29.59 | ljp | personally, I dont think its that bad |
| 20:30.11 | ljp | but.. I never use it |
| 20:30.14 | chouimat | ok I'm out of here ... need to get some food to last to wednesday ... |
| 20:30.16 | ljp | :) |
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| 20:31.30 | mickeyl | trust me - most people aren't using it. and it's bothering the majority. the doclnk stuff was braindead. too much like windows .lnk files. to have a document model as a file abstraction is good, but the way it was implemented was... uhm... questionable. |
| 20:31.34 | chouimat | mickeyl: make it more palm like |
| 20:32.10 | mickeyl | how's it on palm? |
| 20:32.24 | chouimat | mickeyl: there is none :) |
| 20:32.28 | mickeyl | ahaha |
| 20:32.30 | mickeyl | :D |
| 20:32.53 | chouimat | ok really need to go ... before there is too much people at the grocery store ... |
| 20:33.44 | enginuitor | Aww man... |
| 20:33.50 | enginuitor | Not a good first impression here... |
| 20:34.25 | enginuitor | Uh oh... |
| 20:34.31 | mickeyl | ? |
| 20:34.32 | enginuitor | Today /isn't/ the 21st! |
| 20:34.44 | enginuitor | not related to my first impression comment... |
| 20:34.57 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 20:35.01 | enginuitor | thank you |
| 20:35.39 | enginuitor | Can somebody confirm what day it is today? |
| 20:35.48 | enginuitor | I can't seem to figure it out |
| 20:35.52 | ljp | 21/12 |
| 20:35.58 | enginuitor | oh |
| 20:35.58 | mickeyl | 20/12 |
| 20:36.01 | enginuitor | ? |
| 20:36.04 | ljp | :) |
| 20:36.11 | mickeyl | timezones suck |
| 20:36.13 | enginuitor | yeah |
| 20:36.32 | enginuitor | I was thinking of putting all my clocks on UTC... |
| 20:36.42 | enginuitor | But I decided it would make things even more complicated |
| 20:36.44 | ljp | use swatchtime, man |
| 20:37.12 | ljp | the clock applet needs a swatchtime mode |
| 20:38.10 | enginuitor | "What time is it?" It's 23:55, I mean, 15:55, I mean, 3:55 PM... |
| 20:38.30 | mickeyl | ljp: oh, btw. you have a regression bug in advancedfm |
| 20:38.44 | ljp | ya.. probably |
| 20:38.47 | mickeyl | ljp: try renaming a file... nothing happens when pressing "enter" |
| 20:38.55 | ljp | hmm |
| 20:39.02 | mickeyl | that worked in oz 3.2 |
| 20:39.09 | mickeyl | well... opie 0.9.3 |
| 20:39.12 | enginuitor | yes! I have that problem too!! |
| 20:39.16 | ljp | there's a few bugs since I changed to the osplitter |
| 20:39.31 | ljp | I had to redo several functions |
| 20:39.53 | mickeyl | shouldn't be too hard to figure this rename thingy out... and since you're in coding mood today ;) |
| 20:39.57 | ljp | is there a bug ticket for that? |
| 20:40.03 | ljp | yep. I'm on it |
| 20:40.21 | mickeyl | ljp: good question. no idea. mantis is overfull with trash entries. |
| 20:40.35 | mickeyl | btw., any idea when one of the three linux phones will be actually available to buy? |
| 20:41.19 | ljp | well, the recently announced ones I believe are in the chinese/asian market |
| 20:41.37 | mickeyl | mmh... sucky. i want to have such a thing |
| 20:41.38 | ljp | they use qt/e and not qtopia phone |
| 20:41.48 | enginuitor | Ok, now, relating to the "first impression" comment... |
| 20:41.54 | mickeyl | the samsung looks spiffy imho |
| 20:42.00 | mickeyl | 320x240 pix |
| 20:42.09 | enginuitor | I stuck my WiFi card in, and it came up as "Anonymous Memory" |
| 20:42.20 | ljp | qtopia phone has yet to be released to any manufactures that may be interested |
| 20:42.22 | enginuitor | Ejected and put back in... |
| 20:42.31 | enginuitor | Recognized, but nothing loaded... |
| 20:42.40 | mickeyl | enginuitor: odd. hostap? |
| 20:42.43 | enginuitor | E.G. WiFi applet didn't come up... |
| 20:42.57 | enginuitor | No entry in the network settings program... |
| 20:43.09 | enginuitor | What about hostap? |
| 20:43.17 | mickeyl | is this a hostap-driven card? |
| 20:43.22 | enginuitor | Oh, |
| 20:43.23 | enginuitor | hmm |
| 20:43.24 | mickeyl | e.g. prism2, prism2.x |
| 20:43.26 | CAMCAM | enginuitor: What run on this Linux PDA from Samsung ? QTE ? |
| 20:43.35 | enginuitor | yes |
| 20:43.49 | enginuitor | camcam: I have no idea... |
| 20:43.56 | mickeyl | CAMCAM: yes |
| 20:43.59 | enginuitor | camcam: I think you have the wrong person |
| 20:44.09 | CAMCAM | X11, Qte,Qtopia. They give no info |
| 20:44.26 | CAMCAM | mickeyl: you have one ? |
| 20:44.30 | mickeyl | enginuitor: too bad. i though that had been fixed. and i can't test, since i no longer have a hostap card |
| 20:44.39 | mickeyl | CAMCAM: no |
| 20:44.47 | mickeyl | <mickeyl> btw., any idea when one of the three linux phones will be actually available to buy? |
| 20:44.56 | CAMCAM | Who have tested it ? |
| 20:45.00 | enginuitor | mickeyl: Is there a way to specify which driver to use for the card? |
| 20:45.20 | mickeyl | enginuitor: /etc/pcmcia/*.conf |
| 20:45.25 | enginuitor | mickeyl: ...'cause back in 3.3.5 it had two different drivers that it would use randomly |
| 20:45.34 | mickeyl | enginuitor: uninstall one |
| 20:45.40 | mickeyl | e.g. ipkg remove orinoco-modules |
| 20:45.41 | mickeyl | and reboot |
| 20:45.44 | mickeyl | gotta go |
| 20:45.44 | mickeyl | bbl |
| 20:45.45 | enginuitor | mickeyl: One started with "Senao", and one was the intersil reference one |
| 20:45.50 | ljp | ya the recent phones announced use qte |
| 20:45.50 | enginuitor | mickeyl: k |
| 20:46.36 | CAMCAM | Someone know what is running on the Sansung CDMA Linux Smartphone? |
| 20:47.13 | enginuitor | Lol, dare I ask why there's an ieee1394.conf in the /etc/pcmcia/ directory? |
| 20:47.23 | enginuitor | That might be neat... |
| 20:47.38 | enginuitor | I wonder if there's a CF FireWire adapter out there... |
| 20:47.54 | enginuitor | oh wait |
| 20:48.17 | enginuitor | it was ieee1394.opts |
| 20:48.19 | enginuitor | not conf |
| 20:48.34 | enginuitor | but there's also a binary called ieee1394... |
| 20:50.04 | enginuitor | Ooh, here's a good bugfix in 3.3.6... |
| 20:50.37 | enginuitor | "/etc/init.d/pcmcia restart" actually works now |
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| 21:00.13 | Bernardo | I have a hostap card, still need help? |
| 21:00.52 | Bernardo | enginuitor: for starters, what make/model is your card? |
| 21:06.58 | enginuitor | OK, it's a generic Prism2 card |
| 21:07.02 | enginuitor | Intersil reference design |
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| 21:07.38 | Bernardo | should work... Mine is a prism 2.5 card (sandisk connect) and is working well. |
| 21:07.53 | enginuitor | hmmmm |
| 21:07.59 | enginuitor | OZ 3.3.6? |
| 21:08.25 | Bernardo | but probably you need to edit the hotplug scripts so that it knows what driver to load... what is shown when you insert the card? |
| 21:08.30 | Bernardo | yes, oz 3.3.6 |
| 21:09.06 | enginuitor | The little blue box (card applet) pops up saying the card was inserted |
| 21:09.23 | Bernardo | and what is shown as the description of the card? |
| 21:09.35 | enginuitor | ? |
| 21:09.40 | enginuitor | by cardctl? |
| 21:09.59 | Bernardo | or on the applet - it's probably the same string |
| 21:11.30 | Bernardo | here is the output of cardctl info on mine: |
| 21:11.42 | Bernardo | nph-spinnerproxy.cgi |
| 21:11.55 | Bernardo | oops, wrong paste |
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| 21:11.58 | masticator | hey dudes. |
| 21:12.00 | Bernardo | # cardctl info |
| 21:12.02 | Bernardo | PRODID_1="SanDisk Corporation" |
| 21:12.04 | Bernardo | PRODID_2="Wireless LAN Card" |
| 21:12.06 | Bernardo | PRODID_3="" |
| 21:12.08 | Bernardo | PRODID_4="" |
| 21:12.10 | Bernardo | MANFID=d601,0005 |
| 21:12.12 | Bernardo | FUNCID=6 |
| 21:12.14 | masticator | anyone know of some good simple graphics optimization tools for KDE? |
| 21:12.14 | Bernardo | PRODID_1="" |
| 21:12.16 | Bernardo | PRODID_2="" |
| 21:12.18 | Bernardo | PRODID_3="" |
| 21:12.20 | Bernardo | PRODID_4="" |
| 21:12.22 | Bernardo | MANFID=0000,0000 |
| 21:12.24 | Bernardo | FUNCID=255 |
| 21:13.20 | Bernardo | hi masticator |
| 21:13.23 | Bernardo | no... |
| 21:13.25 | enginuitor | k, first, here is my /etc/pcmcia/hostap_cs.conf file: |
| 21:13.33 | enginuitor | device "hostap_cs" |
| 21:13.40 | enginuitor | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.46 | enginuitor | card "Generic Intersil PRISM2 card" |
| 21:13.47 | ljp | hmmm |
| 21:13.54 | ljp | hey masticator |
| 21:13.56 | enginuitor | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.02 | enginuitor | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.12 | ljp | masticator: did you see bens 'editorial' |
| 21:14.37 | enginuitor | I edited it, obviously |
| 21:14.37 | Bernardo | should load the hostap_cs modules... |
| 21:14.47 | enginuitor | And when I insert, it says "New Card: Generic Intersil PRISM2 card |
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| 21:15.04 | enginuitor | so I know it's at least recognizing it |
| 21:15.14 | Bernardo | ok, here is mine: |
| 21:15.26 | Bernardo | card "Zcomax XI-325H 200mW" |
| 21:15.28 | Bernardo | # version " ", "IEEE 802.11 Wireless LAN/PC Card" |
| 21:15.30 | Bernardo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.32 | Bernardo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.43 | masticator | ljp, which one, on how to build a linux pda? |
| 21:16.33 | Bernardo | what is the manfid you get when doing a cardctl info? |
| 21:16.52 | enginuitor | brb |
| 21:17.31 | enginuitor | 0156,0002 |
| 21:17.36 | ljp | ya, "The Perfect Linux PDA" |
| 21:18.23 | enginuitor | prodid's are "INTERSIL","HFA384x/IEEE","Version 01.02","" |
| 21:20.27 | Bernardo | ok, try adding the line "manfid 0xd156, 0x0002" below the "card..." line |
| 21:20.39 | enginuitor | okeydokey... |
| 21:20.50 | enginuitor | although I think it is recognizing the card ok... |
| 21:20.51 | Bernardo | and do a cardctl insert |
| 21:21.00 | enginuitor | ok |
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| 21:22.14 | enginuitor | gotta reboot it now... pcmcia stopped working |
| 21:22.24 | enginuitor | won't even restart properly... |
| 21:22.36 | Bernardo | :( |
| 21:22.40 | Bernardo | wait |
| 21:22.51 | Bernardo | try just a "modprobe hostap_cs" before |
| 21:23.07 | Bernardo | and see if it loads properly and detects the card |
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| 21:25.22 | enginuitor | uh-oh... |
| 21:26.01 | Bernardo | ? |
| 21:26.26 | enginuitor | I rebooted the Z... |
| 21:26.34 | enginuitor | And left it on the desk... |
| 21:26.42 | Bernardo | and? |
| 21:26.43 | enginuitor | 30 seconds later i looked back at it |
| 21:26.48 | enginuitor | and it hadn't rebooted |
| 21:27.09 | Bernardo | ? |
| 21:27.11 | enginuitor | the screen drivers had stopped - there was a line pattern across the screen and the image was slowly melting |
| 21:27.15 | enginuitor | but it hadn't reset |
| 21:27.18 | enginuitor | creepy |
| 21:27.27 | enginuitor | ok, it just finished rebooting |
| 21:28.14 | enginuitor | k, did you want me to type the modprobe thing before or after I insert? |
| 21:28.34 | Bernardo | if you just rebooted, try inserting it first |
| 21:29.05 | enginuitor | yay, found the problem I guess... |
| 21:29.29 | enginuitor | I'm gonna copy it to CF so I don't have to type it all by hand... |
| 21:29.50 | Bernardo | I've just found that there are two cards with the same identifier in /etc/pcmcia/hostap_cs.conf |
| 21:29.58 | Bernardo | is that what you found? |
| 21:30.24 | Bernardo | a Level-One WPC-0100, and a Senao SL-2011CD/SL-2011CDPLUS |
| 21:30.48 | enginuitor | Well, I deleted most of the crap in my hostap_cs.conf |
| 21:31.02 | enginuitor | But the intersil seemed to be the generic one |
| 21:31.07 | enginuitor | because no id's were specified |
| 21:31.56 | enginuitor | and it is obviously choosing that entry correctly because it displays that name in the card applet |
| 21:32.06 | enginuitor | rrrrrgh, can't copy text from konsole... |
| 21:32.23 | Bernardo | the Senao seems closer to me: |
| 21:32.32 | Bernardo | card "Senao SL-2011CD/SL-2011CDPLUS" |
| 21:32.34 | Bernardo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:32.36 | Bernardo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:32.38 | Bernardo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:32.39 | enginuitor | and I /really/ don't want to type all these errors.... |
| 21:32.46 | enginuitor | k, well I'll add the id's |
| 21:32.57 | enginuitor | But I don't think that's where the problem is |
| 21:33.10 | enginuitor | I am getting errors trying to modprobe hostap_cs |
| 21:33.16 | Bernardo | what irc client are you using? with kvirc I can paste from konsole |
| 21:33.53 | enginuitor | I'm using Trillian, on my windows box |
| 21:34.07 | Bernardo | I had some hw errors loading hostap_cs when the card wasn't inserted properly |
| 21:34.32 | enginuitor | Is there a way to run a console on the Z's serial port? |
| 21:34.37 | enginuitor | That would make things a lot easier |
| 21:34.54 | enginuitor | Just use, like, hyperterminal or something |
| 21:35.15 | enginuitor | Then I could stop having to copy text onto a CF card, load it, and paste it from there |
| 21:36.47 | Bernardo | :) It would be easier, yes, but I've never tried it. What kind of errors are you getting? |
| 21:36.59 | enginuitor | huh boy, I'll type them... |
| 21:37.25 | enginuitor | first one is... |
| 21:38.27 | enginuitor | dammit |
| 21:38.44 | enginuitor | I just typed the whole thing and forgot that IRC wouldn't like it because there was a slash at the end.... |
| 21:39.21 | ljp | might be able to hit the up button |
| 21:39.45 | enginuitor | DAMMIT |
| 21:39.48 | enginuitor | did it again |
| 21:39.51 | enginuitor | right after I complained about it |
| 21:39.58 | enginuitor | I hate my life |
| 21:40.11 | enginuitor | ljp: I'm running trillian |
| 21:40.20 | enginuitor | ljp: Windoze :( |
| 21:40.37 | enginuitor | ok, here goes... last time.... |
| 21:41.38 | enginuitor | "/lib/module/2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix/net/hostap.o: unresolved symbol wireless_send_event |
| 21:41.52 | enginuitor | that should be /lib/modules |
| 21:41.59 | enginuitor | not "module" |
| 21:42.55 | enginuitor | The second error has the exact same beginning except the unresolved symbol is "request_module" |
| 21:43.00 | Bernardo | that seems like you have the wrong modules installed. as a fast solution, you can try installing again (forcing reinstall and overwrite) the hostap-modules package from the feed |
| 21:43.23 | Bernardo | if you installed 3.3.6, the feed is already defined in ipkg.conf as default |
| 21:43.36 | enginuitor | there's a bit of a problem... |
| 21:43.42 | enginuitor | no network connectivity... |
| 21:43.51 | Bernardo | sorry. forgot... |
| 21:43.55 | enginuitor | :) |
| 21:44.08 | enginuitor | I think I'll just copy the whole feed onto my CF card |
| 21:44.13 | Bernardo | You can still download it with your windows machine, and copy it to cf and install it from there |
| 21:44.24 | enginuitor | yup |
| 21:44.29 | Bernardo | you can try first just with the modules... |
| 21:44.34 | enginuitor | For a while I had the whole feed on cf... |
| 21:44.47 | Bernardo | btw, you did remember to rename zImage... to zImage before flashing, right? |
| 21:44.48 | enginuitor | The problem with only having the ipks I think I need |
| 21:45.16 | enginuitor | is that usually there's a hell of a lot of stupid dependencies that have to be filled |
| 21:45.36 | enginuitor | yes, I remembered to rename the zImage |
| 21:45.47 | enginuitor | oh wait |
| 21:45.50 | enginuitor | uh-oh |
| 21:45.57 | enginuitor | DON'T FREAKIN' TELL ME |
| 21:46.21 | Bernardo | you forgot? Ok, I won't tell you. |
| 21:47.28 | enginuitor | I was running the 3.3.6 file system with the 3.3.5 kernel |
| 21:47.30 | enginuitor | rrrrrgh |
| 21:47.48 | enginuitor | I thought it wasn't supposed to even let you flash if it didn't find both files? |
| 21:47.55 | Bernardo | that would explain why the modules would fail loading... |
| 21:48.15 | Bernardo | no, it will assume you only want to flash one or the other |
| 21:48.52 | Bernardo | well, now you only need to flash the kernel, should be fast... :) |
| 21:48.55 | enginuitor | lol |
| 21:48.58 | enginuitor | okeydokey... |
| 21:49.14 | enginuitor | wait, isn't the kernel image stored as a file somewhere in the root fs? |
| 21:49.23 | enginuitor | Can't I just copy over the file? |
| 21:49.36 | enginuitor | I remember aqpkg once deleted my kernel-image... |
| 21:49.50 | Bernardo | I don't think so - check the mailing list, there was a argument about that last week |
| 21:50.10 | Bernardo | anyway, it is faster just to flash the kernel then go checking... :) |
| 21:50.21 | enginuitor | Well, all I know is that when aqpkg deletes kernel-image and crashes before reinstalling it.... |
| 21:50.43 | enginuitor | You get a nice blinking cursor on next reboot! |
| 21:50.44 | enginuitor | :) |
| 21:51.00 | enginuitor | That was a particularly bad day... |
| 21:51.10 | Bernardo | I can imagine... |
| 21:51.44 | enginuitor | Allrighty, here goes... |
| 21:51.56 | enginuitor | I like to flash from the D+P menu... |
| 21:52.06 | enginuitor | it's easier than trying to hold C+D correctly |
| 21:52.23 | Bernardo | you can flash from there? I find it a lot easier to hold c+d than d+p... |
| 21:52.51 | enginuitor | with D+P you can use your middle and pointer finger.... |
| 21:52.54 | enginuitor | really easy to hold |
| 21:53.01 | enginuitor | with C+D... |
| 21:53.17 | enginuitor | I have to try to mash my thumb between them so it presses C and D but not any other keys |
| 21:53.30 | enginuitor | And then get the stylus into the reset button |
| 21:53.47 | enginuitor | Really f***ing annoying |
| 21:54.04 | enginuitor | Anyway, it's flashing now |
| 21:54.10 | Bernardo | I usualy mash the keys with my thumb, and hold the z with that hand, so I have a free hand to press the reset |
| 21:54.24 | enginuitor | Wow, it flashed in about 5 sec's |
| 21:55.05 | enginuitor | heh, I was a bit freaked out there for a sec... |
| 21:55.11 | Bernardo | 800k instead of 16Mb... |
| 21:55.17 | enginuitor | It wouldn't power up |
| 21:55.24 | enginuitor | Turns out the keyboard wasn't extended all the way |
| 21:55.33 | enginuitor | so the sliding contacts weren't touching |
| 21:56.02 | enginuitor | YES!!! |
| 21:56.12 | enginuitor | Drivers are up, and the applet is working |
| 21:56.29 | Bernardo | cool! |
| 21:56.30 | enginuitor | I hope all that fscking around I did in the conf files didn't mess anything up... |
| 21:56.39 | Bernardo | Well, got to go now... see you tomorrow |
| 21:56.42 | enginuitor | k |
| 21:56.44 | enginuitor | thanks |
| 21:56.48 | Bernardo | np |
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| 22:15.17 | noda | Moo! |
| 22:16.21 | Captain-Obvious | m00 |
| 22:20.40 | treke|home | mornin noda |
| 22:20.46 | noda | morning? Bah |
| 22:20.53 | treke|home | noda: kergoth tell you oz.org is moving |
| 22:21.01 | noda | oz.org? I thought it was just oe.org |
| 22:21.41 | treke|home | I think both. |
| 22:21.46 | noda | Oh. Then no :P |
| 22:21.50 | pb_ | I only set up a vhost for oe.org. |
| 22:21.58 | treke|home | ah, then just oe |
| 22:22.25 | pb_ | :-} |
| 22:22.59 | noda | Ooh, cool... I've had 49 hits to my site through Safari and 38 through Galeon in the past 15 days. |
| 22:23.16 | noda | ...and none through Epiphany. Odd. |
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| 22:43.29 | noda | Ooh ooh ooh! "Subversion is now in the Beta stage of development." |
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| 22:49.53 | enginuitor | With the WiFi problem fixed in OZ 3.3.6, I can finally fulfill my greatest dream... |
| 22:50.14 | enginuitor | Running a web server from my pants pocket! |
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| 23:16.18 | enginuitor | OK, say I wanted to compile a library and a command-line program to work on the zaurus... |
| 23:16.38 | enginuitor | Is it as simple as just compiling it... |
| 23:16.58 | enginuitor | Or will there be code changes needed? |
| 23:17.28 | ljp | usually just a cross compile |
| 23:17.51 | smashie | I needed to adapt code |
| 23:18.19 | enginuitor | Long story... I want to run gphoto2 on my Z so that I can connect it to my Barbie Digital Camera (don't ask, ok? it was only $2 at a thrift store) and use it as a roaming webcam!! |
| 23:18.48 | enginuitor | And of course, I took off all the pink flowery casing |
| 23:19.04 | enginuitor | So now it's just a PC board assembly with a camera on it |
| 23:19.26 | Captain-Obvious | USB? |
| 23:19.52 | enginuitor | RS232 |
| 23:20.01 | enginuitor | Which makes it really neat to play with |
| 23:20.07 | enginuitor | You can control it from a serial terminal |
| 23:20.24 | enginuitor | You can even tell it to take a picture |
| 23:20.36 | enginuitor | just 2-byte hex codes if I remember |
| 23:20.53 | enginuitor | I played with it from hyperterminal a lot |
| 23:20.58 | enginuitor | (in my windows days) |
| 23:21.05 | enginuitor | oh wait |
| 23:21.17 | enginuitor | Actually, the control codes are ASCII |
| 23:35.18 | enginuitor | Ah, I found the protocol doc! |
| 23:36.38 | enginuitor | How can I compile for the Zaurus on my big box? |
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| 23:37.58 | enginuitor | cool, it turns out you can write to the camera's RAM too... |
| 23:42.44 | enginuitor | How do I compile for the zaurus's ARM processor? |
| 23:42.45 | NS-Home | the short answer is that you need to download the cross tool china form openembedded/zaurus and use that |
| 23:42.52 | enginuitor | Can I use gcc or g++? |
| 23:43.02 | enginuitor | oh ok |
| 23:43.11 | enginuitor | thanks |
| 23:43.38 | NS-Home | http://openembedded.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/GettingStarted |
| 23:43.46 | enginuitor | thanks |
| 23:43.52 | NS-Home | I having problems getting glibc to build on it |
| 23:44.10 | NS-Home | there may be a toolchina for the current openzaurus release someplace |
| 23:44.12 | NS-Home | but I am not sure |
| 23:44.18 | NS-Home | best off to ask some of the other folks here |
| 23:44.22 | enginuitor | k |
| 23:44.24 | enginuitor | Thanks |
| 23:45.04 | NS-Home | the glibc problem appers to be an issue with kernel headers being slightly too old |
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| 23:54.04 | enginuitor | Gotta go, finally booting back to linux! |
| 23:54.20 | enginuitor | C'yall in 5 minutes... |