| 00:07.50 | treke | mickeyAtHome: ping |
| 00:08.01 | mickeyAtHome | treke: pong |
| 00:08.53 | treke | mickeyAtHome: Does wellenreiter work with a socket wireless + the orinoco driver in buildroot? |
| 00:09.12 | mickeyAtHome | treke: yes |
| 00:09.17 | treke | ok. |
| 00:09.54 | mickeyAtHome | talking 'bout wellenreiter... |
| 00:10.02 | mickeyAtHome | I'm working on networksettings |
| 00:10.25 | mickeyAtHome | a small patch which introduces wireless network neighbourhood scanning - powered by Wellenreiter II technology :D |
| 00:10.48 | mickeyAtHome | so you can easily see what nets are available and choose their settings |
| 00:10.56 | mickeyAtHome | does that sound good? |
| 00:11.01 | treke | sounds great |
| 00:11.11 | mickeyAtHome | :D |
| 00:12.22 | mickeyAtHome | it's 02:00 here. gonna get a bit of sleep. i'll commit that tomorrow into HEAD for inclusion into 1.2 - would be nice if it gets testing. |
| 00:12.36 | mickeyAtHome | g'night |
| 00:13.23 | treke | is head starting to get useable again? |
| 00:22.43 | chouimat | night |
| 00:48.48 | ljp | quiet |
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| 00:58.15 | Disconnect | anyone happen to have spectrum_cs for the c760? |
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| 01:15.42 | treke | it's in the orinoco package |
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| 01:39.13 | Disconnect | oh, excellent :) |
| 01:53.39 | Disconnect | its not in pcmcia/config .. which is fixable.. but it shows on ifconfig -a .. (ifconfig eth0 up fails tho.. which is just confusing) |
| 01:53.53 | treke | commit yer X stuff |
| 02:00.04 | kergoth | it isnt supposed to be in pcmcia/config, its in its own .conf. |
| 02:00.07 | kergoth | treke: k |
| 02:01.39 | Disconnect | yah found it. but it still hates me. (presumably the package from opie, for the same kernel, is gonna work..) it acts like its up so long as you don't actually touch it. |
| 02:01.42 | Disconnect | any way to disable powersave? |
| 02:02.07 | Disconnect | (on the card, not the z) |
| 02:02.42 | kergoth | "package from opie"? |
| 02:02.52 | kergoth | opie has nothing to do with your kernel |
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| 02:04.12 | Disconnect | opie has orinoco modules for 2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix |
| 02:05.04 | TheMasterMind1 | eh |
| 02:05.15 | TheMasterMind1 | why would opie have modules for a network card |
| 02:05.23 | Disconnect | grab the ipkg, extract it (yay dpkg) and put the modules in place.. it loads them, they like the card, then nothing .. it shows in ifconfig -a but ifconfig eth0 up returns no such device.. last dmesg is pxa_pcmcia_suspend(0) |
| 02:05.30 | kergoth | what? |
| 02:05.34 | kergoth | opie has nothing to do with drivers. |
| 02:05.36 | kergoth | period |
| 02:07.53 | Disconnect | funny.. if you go here you get precompiled modules. looks a lot like an opie feed.. and regardless, thats not the problem. the problem is that the z won't use the card... [http://opie.handhelds.org/feed/c700-gcc3/1.0/] |
| 02:08.51 | treke | That is a feed on the opie server |
| 02:08.58 | treke | It contains more than an opie feed |
| 02:09.45 | kergoth | if you can ifconfig the device, the Z sees the card just fine. |
| 02:09.58 | kergoth | use iwconfig to confirm the wireless configuration is correct |
| 02:10.12 | Disconnect | frankly, I wouldn't care if it was coming from windowsupdate.. I never claimed it -was- only an opie feed. however, it -is- an opie feed and knowing the source of the modules might be useful. or not. |
| 02:10.34 | Disconnect | kergoth: ifconfig -a .. shows eth0 .. ifconfig eth0 .. shows it (down) .. ifconfig eth0 up .. no such device. |
| 02:10.45 | ljp | hmm, opie on windowsupdate.. |
| 02:12.30 | kergoth | saying 'opie has orinoco modules' is absolutely meaningless. |
| 02:12.38 | kergoth | next time start with useful information, we'll get it fixed faster. |
| 02:12.44 | kergoth | now again, use iwconfig |
| 02:12.58 | Disconnect | dmesg .. "looks like a symbol firmware version [f3.70-27]" .. mac addy, station name, 'eth0 ready' and pxa_pcmcia_suspend(0) .. which (I'm betting) happens right when the light goes out. |
| 02:13.01 | Disconnect | iwconfig says no wireless extensions. |
| 02:13.05 | Disconnect | on the interface.. |
| 02:13.23 | kergoth | what rom is this? |
| 02:14.04 | Disconnect | and if it will help you get over it, how about "presumably, the package that opie supplies in one of their official but testing feeds, compiled against the exact same kernel, for the exact same devices, although not as part of opie, will contain modules, dispite not being from opie, that will work on this device."... better? |
| 02:14.26 | Disconnect | the english conversion by cacko |
| 02:14.44 | kergoth | I wont bother getting into the various assumptions in that statement |
| 02:14.53 | kergoth | okay, i dont support that rom. good luck. |
| 02:15.08 | treke | so your asking about cacko's rom using openzaurus packages built by the opie team in a channel meant for openembedded development. |
| 02:15.23 | kergoth | yeah, its not like the topic says where one _should_ ask or anything.. |
| 02:16.05 | kergoth | try reading. it helps. |
| 02:20.17 | kergoth | user support doesnt belong here. |
| 02:20.19 | kergoth | period. |
| 02:20.26 | treke | which distribution independent was that? If it's the where are the spectrum packages, that is distribution dependent |
| 02:20.26 | kergoth | regardless of the way you worded your requests for help |
| 02:20.46 | tanq | =0 |
| 02:20.52 | tanq | sup kergoth... is ti hiring |
| 02:20.55 | tanq | heh... |
| 02:21.17 | tanq | i applied for job in las colinas.. |
| 02:21.36 | kergoth | dunno |
| 02:21.48 | tanq | hrmm.. |
| 02:23.22 | Disconnect | because if you are really asking (and I'll keep this short) modules are dist independent, and I had already agreed to put OZ on here and start testing/developing shortly. so getting it working to begin with would be step one.. (and fyi, if job requests are OT then great, I'll go get my resume.. if not, its time for another aha-ing..) |
| 02:24.11 | kergoth | user support is the only thing explicitly stated as OT |
| 02:24.20 | kergoth | which you would almost certainly know had you bothered to read the topic |
| 02:24.47 | kergoth | modules are not distribution independent, because they depend on an exact kernel, as distributed by a distribution. nearly every distribution includes their own patches, which may or may not affect compatibility. |
| 02:27.28 | Disconnect | 'nearly' and 'may or may not' pretty much covers that .. 2.4.18-* (where * != mixed [non]preempt) is likely either fail to insert (no biggie) or to work fine. |
| 02:28.09 | kergoth | and that makes them distribution independent? not even close. |
| 02:28.21 | kergoth | you're assuming a great deal. |
| 02:30.11 | Disconnect | so OZ -doesn't- use 2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3? thats surprising, I could have sworn thats what I'd downloaded. I'll go check in a bit.. |
| 02:31.19 | kergoth | 1) i didnt say that, 2) you're assuming that every build of 2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3 will have compatible modules, which is patently false. |
| 02:31.30 | kergoth | kernel version string is completely arbitrary. |
| 02:32.36 | Disconnect | as compared to the config? yep. but outside of CONFIG_WIRELESS there is very little in the spectrum sources that'll be affected .. regardless, I'm guessing the faq has docco on the oz-supported cross toolchain, yes? (or is it still the CRL one?) |
| 02:33.09 | Disconnect | (and those things that are affected are hit as unresolved symbols by modprobe/depmod.. see above. "no biggie"..) |
| 02:33.10 | kergoth | oh right, its not like changing the modversions option will break module compatibility or something ... oh wait! |
| 02:33.24 | kergoth | ibot: oz toolchain |
| 02:33.25 | | methinks oz toolchain is http://www.openzaurus.org/official/toolchain/, or mkdir /usr/local/arm and extract them in there. |
| 02:33.32 | Disconnect | one flag.. and who doesn't set modversions? |
| 02:33.36 | Disconnect | cool, tx |
| 02:33.43 | kergoth | unresolved symbols will catch incompatible abi only in teh modversions case |
| 02:34.22 | kergoth | who doesnt set modversions? familiar doesnt, last i checked. and i dont believe any sharp kernel does either, going from memory. |
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| 02:35.06 | kergoth | configuration is a distribution decision. you already agreed that configuration affects compatibility, therefore module compatibility is distribution dependent. |
| 02:35.09 | kergoth | isnt logic grand? |
| 02:35.13 | kergoth | should try it sometime. |
| 02:35.18 | stigger | where the f is apmd_3.2.0-3.diff.gz |
| 02:35.46 | kergoth | debian probably switched to a newer version. can try switching it yourself |
| 02:35.46 | stigger | take that back |
| 02:36.12 | stigger | tried changing to 6 but the patches wouldn't apply |
| 02:36.34 | kergoth | did you clean and rebuild it, to ensure its reextracted? |
| 02:37.31 | stigger | yeah did make SUBDIRS=packages/$1 clean-sources; |
| 02:37.32 | stigger | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:37.40 | Disconnect | modular compatibility -can be- distribution dependent. which is not the same as 'will be'. the fact that the modules loaded is a sign that in fact, in this case, it is. either way, go grab that drink. maybe it'll relax you. |
| 02:37.44 | stigger | then make SUBDIRS=packages/$1 |
| 02:38.07 | stigger | I think thats right |
| 02:38.11 | kergoth | you assume that a configuration change will break the module symbol resolution? hah. |
| 02:38.15 | kergoth | you're funny |
| 02:38.20 | kergoth | stigger: yeah, thats fine |
| 02:39.07 | stigger | If I change debian revision in the apmd make file that is only set for that package yes?? |
| 02:39.17 | kergoth | yes |
| 02:39.20 | stigger | oops DEBIAN_MIRROR |
| 02:39.42 | kergoth | anything in a package makefile is local |
| 02:43.07 | stigger | cool it builds http://debian.ludost.net/debian/pool |
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| 02:47.53 | kergoth | hey tmm |
| 03:01.27 | ljp | hmmm |
| 03:04.44 | ljp | I officially dont like suse |
| 03:04.48 | stigger | should I do something with this Makefile so that others can get apmd to compil |
| 03:04.59 | kergoth | buildroot is deprecated |
| 03:05.12 | kergoth | if you want it fixed, and its an obvious fix, send the patch to openzaurus-devel@lists.sf.ent |
| 03:05.15 | kergoth | net |
| 03:05.23 | kergoth | ljp: yast and i dont get along |
| 03:05.44 | ljp | I dont like suse' gcc packaging... |
| 03:05.53 | kergoth | how do they do it? |
| 03:06.00 | ljp | not easy to have both 2.95 and 3.3 on the system |
| 03:06.02 | kergoth | ah |
| 03:06.06 | W8TVI | darn... "The job would involve configuring PCs, providing online/phone PC support for approximately 85 off-site PCs and on-site support to approximately 60 users. A+ and Network+ certification are desired. Good written and verbal skills are a must. Good working knowledge of WinNT, Win2000, WinXP. Proven troubleshooting skills required. IIS 5.0 knowledge a plus. A pager is assigned and is operational from 7a-10p." |
| 03:06.08 | stigger | OK I know its depreciated but its the only way to get a image at the moment |
| 03:06.23 | ljp | 3.3 is in /usr 2.95 is in /usr/local/2.95 |
| 03:06.39 | stigger | once I get a workin image I'll switch to oe and look at that |
| 03:06.43 | kergoth | stigger: the point is, we arent spending time on it. so the fix had better be something that wont require developer effort above and beyond applying a patch |
| 03:06.57 | kergoth | so send a patch and itll go in, otherwise it wont get fixed |
| 03:07.27 | ljp | unlessm of couse, you donate something to me paypal account |
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| 03:20.02 | ljp | HEY! |
| 03:20.06 | ljp | whoops |
| 03:23.45 | cyn_ | isn't this *not* the first ever cluster: http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/08/1818203&mode=thread&tid=100&tid=137 |
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| 03:23.58 | cyn_ | like, don't you guys have access to one |
| 03:24.19 | ljp | handhelds.org, kinda |
| 03:29.02 | cyn_ | "The 4,2,1 loop repeats over and over, so it's usually convenient to terminate the process once it is entered. All numbers tested so far eventually hit this loop, although it has not been proven that all numbers do." |
| 03:29.18 | cyn_ | whats to prove about 3x+1 = 4x's boundary points |
| 03:31.05 | cyn_ | spose that the functions are a series too, so there unlimited ones to prove |
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| 04:16.45 | kergoth | shit, out of laphroaig |
| 04:22.46 | gb2 | kergoth: hrm. i should get some laphroaig tomorrow |
| 04:22.56 | gb2 | so i can sit sipping a glass and watch tomorrow's game |
| 04:23.23 | gb2 | must remember an ID this time |
| 04:23.43 | kergoth | good plan |
| 04:23.46 | kergoth | heh, where ya headed? |
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| 04:24.45 | gb2 | liquor store |
| 04:24.51 | gb2 | i don't have a driver's license :P |
| 04:24.55 | kergoth | ah |
| 04:25.09 | gb2 | my passport is the only valid ID i have at the moment |
| 04:25.13 | gb2 | i should really get a liquor id |
| 04:26.38 | gb2 | i used to have my passport in my laptop bag so i'd stop by the liquor store after work |
| 04:27.01 | gb2 | at some point it migrated out and i kept failing to make it to the store |
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| 04:38.55 | treke | ljp: if it makes you feel better, I never get id'd either, and I'm young |
| 04:39.16 | ljp | no |
| 04:39.26 | ljp | maybe I shold grow my hair long |
| 04:40.41 | treke | do you really want the long hair hippy jokes to come back? |
| 04:41.00 | ljp | dont matter |
| 04:41.27 | ljp | arnold as gov is a sign of the apocalypse |
| 04:42.49 | ljp | probably |
| 04:42.57 | ljp | or gary coleman |
| 04:44.10 | ljp | but not that pron star |
| 04:44.34 | treke | could have made negotiations with energy companies more interesting |
| 04:44.45 | ljp | hahaa |
| 04:44.50 | ljp | true |
| 04:50.31 | gb2 | i usually only get id when it's most inconvenient |
| 04:50.39 | gb2 | when i'm prepared, i don't get id'd |
| 04:50.50 | gb2 | so if i forget my id, i've taken to not trying |
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| 04:52.42 | treke | I think the last time I was id'd was when I bought a 6 pack of root beer, oddly enough |
| 04:53.13 | gb2 | heh |
| 04:53.28 | gb2 | i get id'd more when i use my credit card than i do for booze |
| 04:53.36 | gb2 | probably means i should buy more booze |
| 04:53.52 | W8TVI | if some one tryed to id me for root beer, I'd call them a moron to thier face |
| 04:54.14 | W8TVI | and them make them find where it says it has alcohol in in |
| 04:54.16 | W8TVI | in it |
| 05:01.14 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:02.27 | W8TVI | I use to work as a cashier |
| 05:02.34 | W8TVI | among other things |
| 05:03.02 | W8TVI | I got to find a job soon |
| 05:03.15 | W8TVI | only have 8 weeks left on my unemployment |
| 05:04.01 | kergoth | cashiering.. i remember that.. not fondly.. heh |
| 05:10.58 | W8TVI | theres a tech job open in town... |
| 05:11.07 | W8TVI | they want "Good working knowledge of WinNT, Win2000, WinXP." |
| 05:11.41 | W8TVI | I hate win2000 |
| 05:11.54 | W8TVI | it works nothing like NT and XP |
| 05:12.17 | W8TVI | things that work in XP and NT don't in 2000 |
| 05:12.36 | treke | that describes every version of windows |
| 05:13.27 | W8TVI | I was trying to get something with filesharing to work on a network with mostly win2000 workstations, and they wouldn't share right |
| 05:13.46 | W8TVI | password problems |
| 05:14.17 | W8TVI | you'd enter the username and pass to log on to the share on the remote computer, and it wouldnt give it to you... |
| 05:14.37 | W8TVI | so I gave up and setup a share on the Nt box |
| 05:15.03 | W8TVI | I'd still rather deal with samba |
| 05:15.23 | W8TVI | I spent 1 hour trying to get it to work |
| 05:15.32 | W8TVI | I did what the help files said |
| 05:15.40 | W8TVI | it just WOULDNT work |
| 05:16.12 | W8TVI | this stupid "NT domain" is crap |
| 05:16.29 | W8TVI | just set a linux box as the firewall |
| 05:16.48 | W8TVI | they had a NT box for the gateway to the internet |
| 05:16.52 | W8TVI | no firewall |
| 05:19.46 | W8TVI | I hate windows... can you tell? |
| 05:23.01 | ljp | no |
| 05:24.53 | W8TVI | screw windows!!! they do everything ass backwards of what it should be and bloat everything far more than it needs to be. they should do like apple and make a gui and call it windows X |
| 05:24.59 | W8TVI | better |
| 05:25.01 | W8TVI | ? |
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| 05:52.28 | ljp | hmmm |
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| 06:10.10 | rick-o | yo |
| 06:10.15 | rick-o | anybody still awake? |
| 06:21.18 | ljp | ya |
| 06:21.36 | W8TVI | no |
| 06:22.28 | stigger | sortof |
| 06:23.55 | ljp | its not even 5pm, how could I be alseep? |
| 06:25.54 | stigger | its always sleeping time somewhere |
| 06:28.45 | ljp | hmmm, perhaps |
| 06:29.03 | ljp | it does get rather quiet in the afternoon here |
| 06:44.11 | W8TVI | its 2:44am here |
| 06:45.56 | ljp | poor guy |
| 06:46.09 | ljp | its 16:43 here |
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| 07:13.21 | W8TVI|z | wireless is fun |
| 07:14.18 | ljp | no its not |
| 07:15.11 | W8TVI|z | yes it is |
| 07:15.19 | ljp | nope |
| 07:15.52 | W8TVI|z | i just shut down my irc proxy from bed |
| 07:16.04 | W8TVI|z | no wires at all |
| 07:16.10 | ljp | thats inconceivable! |
| 07:16.59 | W8TVI|z | and i can shut down my desktop with out being infron of it this way |
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| 07:17.47 | W8TVI|z | lt's |
| 07:17.54 | W8TVI|z | fun |
| 07:18.48 | W8TVI|z | dang its slow using the hand writing on this |
| 07:19.28 | W8TVI|z | jumpx is faster even... |
| 07:20.20 | ljp | use speech to text |
| 07:21.01 | W8TVI|z | on the zaurus? |
| 07:22.24 | W8TVI|z | anyway... |
| 07:22.30 | W8TVI|z | night |
| 07:23.00 | ljp | nope. still day |
| 07:23.21 | W8TVI|z | and your upside down |
| 07:23.28 | ljp | no I'm not |
| 07:23.42 | ljp | you are |
| 07:24.08 | W8TVI|z | ~lart ljp for being an upsidedown aussy |
| 07:24.21 | W8TVI|z | heh |
| 07:24.31 | ljp | hmm |
| 07:24.39 | W8TVI|z | bye |
| 07:24.47 | ljp | wus |
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| 11:49.33 | Twiun | afternoon folks |
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| 12:08.03 | chouimat | morning |
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| 12:33.27 | lsmith | . |
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| 13:32.01 | mickeyl | hey cmartin. |
| 13:33.19 | Twiun | .. |
| 13:48.21 | cmartin | hi mickeyl |
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| 13:55.25 | BBMatthew | morning |
| 13:56.12 | mickeyl | hi BBMatthew. what's new |
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| 14:51.35 | BBMatthew | mickeyl|away, not much still need to do more real work |
| 14:51.42 | BBMatthew | hows the war with the rebels? |
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| 14:59.47 | BBMatthew | mickeyl|away, silly question I wouldn't be able to sync if I installed the opie apps into the sharp rom would I? |
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| 15:35.59 | BBMatthew | am doing a rebuild with the 2.95.3 compiler and buildroot. Need to publish a more stable and fixed system and feed. |
| 15:36.38 | BBMatthew | in theory 3.3 will be superior but I am taking a raincheck and going for reliability |
| 15:55.03 | Twiun | TimRiker: wouldn't happen to know any techies at HP would you? |
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| 15:57.15 | BBMatthew | ibot thursdayt |
| 15:57.16 | | BBMatthew: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 15:57.18 | BBMatthew | ibot thursday |
| 15:57.20 | | Thursday sucks, because it isnt friday (See friday). |
| 15:57.29 | BBMatthew | ibot friday |
| 15:57.30 | | Friday sucks, because it should be the weekend, but you're stuck working anyway. |
| 16:14.54 | BBMatthew | ibot monday |
| 16:14.55 | | [monday] when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems it takes you until friday to get back to normal. a good reason to want to go out and kill people, or a day that no work should be performed due to this phenomenon, or a day requiring the use of large amounts of drugs, or http://engrish.com/recent_detail.php?imagename=deadfriend.jpg&category=Clothing&date=2003-08-25 |
| 16:15.58 | BBMatthew | ibot tuesday |
| 16:15.59 | | Tuesday sucks, because it follows Monday (see monday). |
| 16:16.09 | BBMatthew | ibot wednesday |
| 16:16.10 | | Wednesday sucks, because it is only half way through the week. |
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| 16:17.06 | Twiun | BBMatthew: enough already ;) if you want them all do them in /query window ;) |
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| 16:25.03 | BBMatthew | Twiun, fair enough - I am sorry I didn't realize anyone was listening |
| 16:30.01 | Twiun | BBMatthew: I log everything ;) |
| 16:30.20 | Twiun | BBMatthew: but seriously... I do keep an eye on here - just busy at work |
| 16:44.33 | TimRiker | Twiun: just the CRL folks on handhelds.org |
| 16:44.42 | Twiun | CRL? |
| 16:52.48 | TimRiker | cambridge reasearch labs |
| 16:57.45 | Twiun | ahh |
| 16:58.02 | Twiun | I'm looking to see if there's any expertise left for really old HP-UX kit ;) |
| 16:58.11 | Twiun | trying to help a kaffe developer |
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| 17:01.38 | treke | I'd recommend asking pb about it |
| 17:02.17 | TimRiker | Twiun: some of my test staff here used to be on hpux testing. |
| 17:02.44 | Twiun | TimRiker: want me to forward you the guy's problem description? |
| 17:02.53 | Twiun | treke: good idea |
| 17:03.04 | Twiun | pb_: how's your HP-UX anthropology? |
| 17:03.10 | pb_ | Twiun: shaky |
| 17:03.29 | pb_ | we have an hp-ux cluster at work but I avoid it like the proverbial plague. |
| 17:03.35 | Twiun | lol |
| 17:04.04 | Twiun | the hardware is an "hp 9000/720 (Snake, 50Mhz)" |
| 17:04.22 | Twiun | treke: why not, pb is omniscent ;) |
| 17:04.28 | treke | fair enough |
| 17:08.21 | TimRiker | Twiun: we don't have any systems here to try anything out. |
| 17:09.24 | Twiun | TimRiker: do they recognise the hardware or is it truly ancient? |
| 17:16.22 | TimRiker | no idea. |
| 17:19.44 | Twiun | must be _really_ old then ;) |
| 17:28.16 | Twiun | Hometime for me! |
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| 18:11.45 | BBMatthew | hmm |
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| 18:14.47 | BBMatthew | since debian have helpfully pulled their .diff.gz for libtool 1.4.3 should I repoint to libtool 1.5 or 1.4.3 without the diff? |
| 18:15.00 | treke | no |
| 18:15.23 | BBMatthew | thx :) |
| 18:16.01 | BBMatthew | what would you recommend, googling up the diff.gz and dumping it in src? |
| 18:16.09 | treke | yes |
| 18:16.21 | BBMatthew | libtool 1.5 not good? |
| 18:16.22 | treke | touch libtool as little as possible, it barely works as it is |
| 18:16.28 | BBMatthew | oh ok |
| 18:17.10 | BBMatthew | I know just enough to hate what it tries to do |
| 18:17.19 | treke | there is a reason he does :) |
| 18:17.36 | BBMatthew | hehe it bites me on the ass everytime I need to build xine_lib |
| 18:18.03 | BBMatthew | my libtool ver from gentoo pulls in /usr/include from the build host EVERY time |
| 18:18.29 | BBMatthew | requires a bit of niffy hacking |
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| 18:37.31 | W8TVI | Someone asked if I had patched against MSBlast; I said yes, I installed Linux. |
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| 19:08.12 | BBMatthew | anyone know where I can get libxine from? the sourceforge server is down |
| 19:10.31 | treke | you can wait for sourceforge to come back up |
| 19:11.52 | BBMatthew | fair enough, can't seem to get the source from someone else |
| 19:14.41 | BBMatthew | back on now |
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| 19:52.05 | Disconnect | BBMatthew: when in doubt, for vendor sources at least, the debian mirrors carry them. |
| 19:54.06 | BBMatthew | cheers |
| 19:54.58 | BBMatthew | good thing the buildroot is being outmoded |
| 19:55.54 | BBMatthew | soo many packages don't acknowledge CFLAGs (at a guess the ./configure is to blame ) |
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| 20:24.51 | treke|ho1e | BBMatthew: oe doesnt fix that :) |
| 20:26.45 | BBMatthew | true, true, its just hating the autobuild stuff doesn't solve anything as there is nothing better to use out there |
| 20:27.23 | BBMatthew | its a pain in the rear. Unless you replaced CC with 'gcc <optimizations>' |
| 20:27.27 | BBMatthew | which is mank |
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| 20:47.59 | kergoth | BBMatthew: ./configure picks up CFLAGS from the environment |
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| 20:49.32 | BBMatthew | kergoth, in that case it must be a few holes in the buildroot - not worth fixing as most seem hardwired to armv4 and strongarm |
| 20:49.44 | kergoth | yep, most likely |
| 20:50.02 | BBMatthew | it will all run on the 5600 |
| 20:50.24 | BBMatthew | I will test this feed and then push to unofficial |
| 20:50.34 | BBMatthew | experimental, sorry |
| 20:50.51 | kergoth | cool |
| 20:51.48 | BBMatthew | got annoyed at the gcc3.3.x messing about. Push this, help convert packages to oe and then look at the 3.3.x problems. You never know it might be able to build a kernel by then |
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| 21:01.53 | kergoth | BBMatthew: what might be able to build a kernel? |
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| 21:25.24 | pb_ | ljp: sounds like a nightmare |
| 21:31.49 | ljp | it is |
| 21:44.06 | treke | BBMatthew: Making oe build a kernel takes 10 minutes |
| 21:44.26 | treke | kergoth: you going to commit those x packages? :) |
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| 21:52.47 | ljp | scary... our acting 'sys admin' was asking around yesterday at lunch for advice on setting up his firewall at home |
| 21:52.58 | treke | nice |
| 21:53.25 | ljp | good thing someone in oslo knows what they are doing |
| 21:53.46 | treke | good thing qt is already open source or you'd be screwed |
| 21:54.59 | ljp | perhaps |
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| 23:28.06 | noda | Moo! |
| 23:28.14 | noda | TheMasterMind1: Quick! What's your paypal email address? |
| 23:28.29 | noda | TheMasterMind1: We've been donated $35 each -- but the person who donated sent them both to me by mistake :) |
| 23:28.48 | noda | ibot: TheMasterMind1 |
| 23:28.51 | | methinks themastermind1 is Aman Gupta, OE developer and ipkg maintainer, and can be reached at agupta@themastermind1.net |
| 23:29.21 | noda | Hrm. Anybody know TheMasterMind1's paypal address? |
| 23:29.44 | noda | ibot: seen TheMasterMind1 |
| 23:29.44 | | themastermind1 is currently on #opie (20h 43m 15s) #gct (20h 43m 15s) #uclibc (20h 43m 15s) #gpe (20h 43m 15s) #zaurus (20h 43m 15s) #elinux (20h 43m 15s) #openembedded (20h 43m 15s) #handhelds.org (20h 43m 15s) #openzaurus (20h 43m 15s) |
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| 23:31.49 | noda | Is ANYBODY here? :) |
| 23:31.50 | TheMasterMind1 | noda: |
| 23:31.54 | noda | TheMasterMind1: Woo! :) |
| 23:31.54 | TheMasterMind1 | noda: paypal@themastermind1.net |
| 23:31.57 | noda | TheMasterMind1: Thanks :) |
| 23:32.02 | TheMasterMind1 | i think anyway |
| 23:32.02 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 23:32.30 | TheMasterMind1 | yep |
| 23:32.37 | noda | Isn't that awesome, $35 dollars! :) |
| 23:32.40 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 23:32.40 | TheMasterMind1 | nice |
| 23:32.41 | TheMasterMind1 | who was it |
| 23:32.54 | noda | Jonathan Jacobs -- he sent us all an email... |
| 23:33.29 | noda | Subject: oz |
| 23:33.42 | noda | The kind of user who makes it all worth it :) |
| 23:34.52 | TheMasterMind1 | yea.. yea i got his email |
| 23:35.49 | noda | Sent |
| 23:42.07 | noda | TheMasterMind1: You might want to put a paypal link in your 'credits' information like kergoth and I did :) |
| 23:42.20 | noda | TheMasterMind1: (easy money) |
| 23:59.30 | fdask | wow |
| 23:59.50 | mickeyl|tv | argh |
