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02:39.39ljp_laptop_damn it. why cant I make a kernel that boots
02:54.14TheMasterMind1because the kernel hates you
02:54.25TheMasterMind1it wants a divorce
02:56.38ljp_laptop_heh.. hmmm
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16:12.46nodaMoo!
16:13.43nodaMozilla gets native SVG support -- woo-ee! I might go on with that OE-logo-embedded-in-the-doc page :)
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17:06.20beattieanybody here used ksymoops to debug panics on the PDA ?
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18:50.12chouimathttp://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030720&mode=classic
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19:17.57ljphey, there's actual work on the dwl-650+ driver
19:19.56cyn2orinoco (hermes) ?
19:20.29ljpuses TI chips
19:20.45ljphttp://acx100.sourceforge.net/
19:21.26ljpI really wonder why hardware companies wont release specs to chips. it helps them sell more
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20:14.47treke|homehmmm
20:14.53treke|homehow did I end up with 3 mmc cards
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21:00.29Twiuntreke|home: you'd thought you'd burned out the first 2?
21:01.26treke|homeCould be.
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21:01.45treke|homejust cleaning my desk and found three
21:05.24Twiunyou just get to store more, erm, things
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21:20.36mickeyl|bblnow this is cool
21:20.59mickeyl|bblno idea if that is known or not, but there is a utility that can decode/encode updater.sh
21:21.04mickeyl|bblwas news for me
21:21.54Twiunyeah - simple substition according to kergoth
21:22.36Twiunmickeyl|bbl: btw, I've thought of a nifty way to support all the JVMs out there with only a small script package
21:22.43mickeyl|bbltypical sharp... protecting it is stupid enough... but protecting it with _such_ a simple scheme is even more stupid
21:22.51mickeyl|bblTwiun: how that?
21:23.17Twiunmickeyl|bbl: that protection sounded to me more like a pissed off programmer trying to shut management up
21:23.25mickeyl|bblaaah lol
21:23.26mickeyl|bblcould be
21:23.42Twiunmickeyl|bbl: as for the script... most java proggies call evm or cvm without an absolute path
21:24.07Twiunmickeyl|bbl: so if we insert a script of the right name in front of the binary on the path...
21:24.17mickeyl|bblhah
21:24.21Twiunmickeyl|bbl: we get to redirect calls to whatever JVM is installed
21:24.33mickeyl|bblsounds too easy to work ;)
21:24.38mickeyl|bblno really - good idea!
21:25.09TwiunI'm thinking of the same approach busybox uses... lots of symlinks to a central script that uses $0 to call the right JVM
21:25.31Twiunof course, there will need to be some translation of the parameters (not all JVMs use the same syntax) but that's minor
21:25.44mickeyl|bblyeah
21:26.42TwiunI've just posted a question up to find out what proportion of java proggies use non-absolute JVM calling
21:26.55Twiunif they all call it absolutely, it's going to be a pain
21:28.16mickeylyep. curious about that percentage. keep me posted, pls.
21:28.37Twiunwill do - and I'll get started on the script anyway
21:30.05Twiunhmmm... the script will have to do a discovery to find installed JVMs
21:30.20Twiunrun it once on postinst and have an icon for it
21:32.04TwiunI'll jump that hurdle when I get to it
21:32.19mickeylgreta
21:32.21mickeylgreat even
21:32.50mickeyli love that c750
21:32.55Twiunshell heaven :)
21:33.00TwiunI wanna have one!
21:33.03mickeylthat display flip trick is pretty cool
21:34.38Twiunhrmm, any idea what EXPRESSION is in busybox's find usage?
21:34.40TwiunUsage: find [PATH...] [EXPRESSION]
21:34.50Twiunother than just -name
21:35.25mickeylhmm... check busybox homepage. there are manpages
21:36.51Twiunwow, didn't realise that bb had reached the big 1.00
21:37.26mickeyloh did they?
21:37.27mickeylnice.
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21:38.08Twiunhrmm
21:38.17Twiunright... time to do 'man find' on a proper machine
21:38.49mickeylhehe
21:38.54mickeylwe need a man-page package for Z.
21:39.04mickeylfor people with SD or CF memory.
21:39.38Twiundefinately
21:39.41fdaskthatd be cool
21:39.54fdask:)
21:41.32Twiunmickeyl: I'm not happy about just doing a "find / -name $JVM" though - god knows someone will have their 160GB nfs mp3 repo mounted...
21:42.14mickeylTwiun: hmm... i wonder if we could get that information out of the Qtopia/Opie file extension registry or so
21:42.29Twiunmickeyl: that's it!
21:42.33Twiunmickeyl: just serach the path
21:42.42Twiunmickeyl: if it's not on there it wouldn't work anyway
21:42.46mickeylright.
21:44.05ljp_laptophmm, anyway to delete files when theres not enough space to delete? :)
21:44.18mickeylah pretty tough
21:44.23Twiunmkfs time?
21:44.27mickeylhehe
21:44.33ljp_laptopheh reflash
21:44.43ljp_laptopput too much junk in my 5000d rom
21:44.52Twiunyeah, I get that too
21:45.08Twiunwhy does it take space to erase files though?
21:45.15ljp_laptopcant understand it.. it fits just fine in this c700 ;)
21:45.21Twiunseems a bit counterintuitive
21:46.27ljp_laptopcant even make a swap file without space to write
21:47.19ljp_laptopoh well. heh nothing lost
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21:51.21ljp_laptophi choui
22:02.51Twiunmickeyl: time for some regex magic!
22:02.59mickeyleeek
22:02.59mickeyl;)
22:03.35Twiunlet's hope I don't end up calling sed too often
22:13.15mickeyln8
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22:28.48ljp_laptopwoot!
22:28.55ljp_laptopgot wifi on this c700
22:35.45Twiuncool
22:37.36ljp_laptopya, just need to convience warwick that wireless-tools are the way they should handle things
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23:07.06ljp_laptopanyone ever try to cross compile links web browser?
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23:10.24Twiunnope
23:13.03ljp_laptopwell,... why not?
23:14.21Twiunlife's too short... or I was doing something else
23:15.25ljp_laptopok, well. get on it, then
23:15.29ljp_laptop:)
23:22.09cyn2ljp_laptop: get links2 with the graphical shiz
23:22.13cyn2that'd be sweet
23:23.05Twiunwhat does links2 support? ssl, css, js?
23:23.53treke|laptopssl
23:24.02treke|laptopI think it has some js support
23:24.05treke|laptopno css
23:27.07cyn2no there's a links with full graphics support and stuff
23:27.12cyn2surely it supports plenty of css
23:27.33Twiuncyn2: I wonder how it would cope with the touchscreen though
23:27.37treke|laptopcyn2: nope
23:27.39treke|laptopcyn2: No css
23:27.42Twiunno idea how libts works
23:27.46Twiuntslib even
23:27.55ljp_laptopwell, I am going to try, while this thing compiles.. again....
23:28.10cyn2wow
23:28.25cyn2http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~clock/twibright/links/ and indeed features says no css
23:29.09cyn2but those screenshots have elements that are only accomplishable with css, like hyperlinks w/o underlines
23:29.38cyn2http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~clock/twibright/links/shots/shot9.png - i doubt that dude made big ugly tables 1 pixel larger than all his tables to get borders :P
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