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02:54.14 | TheMasterMind1 | because the kernel hates you |
02:54.25 | TheMasterMind1 | it wants a divorce |
02:56.38 | ljp_laptop_ | heh.. hmmm |
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18:40.47 | chouimat | re |
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18:50.12 | chouimat | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030720&mode=classic |
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19:17.57 | ljp | hey, there's actual work on the dwl-650+ driver |
19:19.56 | cyn2 | orinoco (hermes) ? |
19:20.29 | ljp | uses TI chips |
19:20.45 | ljp | http://acx100.sourceforge.net/ |
19:21.26 | ljp | I really wonder why hardware companies wont release specs to chips. it helps them sell more |
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19:43.52 | ljpzaurus | ibot test |
19:43.53 | | Passed |
19:44.32 | ljpzaurus | hmmm |
19:47.57 | ljpzaurus | ibot test |
19:47.58 | | Failed |
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20:14.47 | treke|home | hmmm |
20:14.53 | treke|home | how did I end up with 3 mmc cards |
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21:00.29 | Twiun | treke|home: you'd thought you'd burned out the first 2? |
21:01.26 | treke|home | Could be. |
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21:01.45 | treke|home | just cleaning my desk and found three |
21:05.24 | Twiun | you just get to store more, erm, things |
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21:20.36 | mickeyl|bbl | now this is cool |
21:20.59 | mickeyl|bbl | no idea if that is known or not, but there is a utility that can decode/encode updater.sh |
21:21.04 | mickeyl|bbl | was news for me |
21:21.54 | Twiun | yeah - simple substition according to kergoth |
21:22.36 | Twiun | mickeyl|bbl: btw, I've thought of a nifty way to support all the JVMs out there with only a small script package |
21:22.43 | mickeyl|bbl | typical sharp... protecting it is stupid enough... but protecting it with _such_ a simple scheme is even more stupid |
21:22.51 | mickeyl|bbl | Twiun: how that? |
21:23.17 | Twiun | mickeyl|bbl: that protection sounded to me more like a pissed off programmer trying to shut management up |
21:23.25 | mickeyl|bbl | aaah lol |
21:23.26 | mickeyl|bbl | could be |
21:23.42 | Twiun | mickeyl|bbl: as for the script... most java proggies call evm or cvm without an absolute path |
21:24.07 | Twiun | mickeyl|bbl: so if we insert a script of the right name in front of the binary on the path... |
21:24.17 | mickeyl|bbl | hah |
21:24.21 | Twiun | mickeyl|bbl: we get to redirect calls to whatever JVM is installed |
21:24.33 | mickeyl|bbl | sounds too easy to work ;) |
21:24.38 | mickeyl|bbl | no really - good idea! |
21:25.09 | Twiun | I'm thinking of the same approach busybox uses... lots of symlinks to a central script that uses $0 to call the right JVM |
21:25.31 | Twiun | of course, there will need to be some translation of the parameters (not all JVMs use the same syntax) but that's minor |
21:25.44 | mickeyl|bbl | yeah |
21:26.42 | Twiun | I've just posted a question up to find out what proportion of java proggies use non-absolute JVM calling |
21:26.55 | Twiun | if they all call it absolutely, it's going to be a pain |
21:28.16 | mickeyl | yep. curious about that percentage. keep me posted, pls. |
21:28.37 | Twiun | will do - and I'll get started on the script anyway |
21:30.05 | Twiun | hmmm... the script will have to do a discovery to find installed JVMs |
21:30.20 | Twiun | run it once on postinst and have an icon for it |
21:32.04 | Twiun | I'll jump that hurdle when I get to it |
21:32.19 | mickeyl | greta |
21:32.21 | mickeyl | great even |
21:32.50 | mickeyl | i love that c750 |
21:32.55 | Twiun | shell heaven :) |
21:33.00 | Twiun | I wanna have one! |
21:33.03 | mickeyl | that display flip trick is pretty cool |
21:34.38 | Twiun | hrmm, any idea what EXPRESSION is in busybox's find usage? |
21:34.40 | Twiun | Usage: find [PATH...] [EXPRESSION] |
21:34.50 | Twiun | other than just -name |
21:35.25 | mickeyl | hmm... check busybox homepage. there are manpages |
21:36.51 | Twiun | wow, didn't realise that bb had reached the big 1.00 |
21:37.26 | mickeyl | oh did they? |
21:37.27 | mickeyl | nice. |
21:38.05 | Twiun | <PROTECTED> |
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21:38.08 | Twiun | hrmm |
21:38.17 | Twiun | right... time to do 'man find' on a proper machine |
21:38.49 | mickeyl | hehe |
21:38.54 | mickeyl | we need a man-page package for Z. |
21:39.04 | mickeyl | for people with SD or CF memory. |
21:39.38 | Twiun | definately |
21:39.41 | fdask | thatd be cool |
21:39.54 | fdask | :) |
21:41.32 | Twiun | mickeyl: I'm not happy about just doing a "find / -name $JVM" though - god knows someone will have their 160GB nfs mp3 repo mounted... |
21:42.14 | mickeyl | Twiun: hmm... i wonder if we could get that information out of the Qtopia/Opie file extension registry or so |
21:42.29 | Twiun | mickeyl: that's it! |
21:42.33 | Twiun | mickeyl: just serach the path |
21:42.42 | Twiun | mickeyl: if it's not on there it wouldn't work anyway |
21:42.46 | mickeyl | right. |
21:44.05 | ljp_laptop | hmm, anyway to delete files when theres not enough space to delete? :) |
21:44.18 | mickeyl | ah pretty tough |
21:44.23 | Twiun | mkfs time? |
21:44.27 | mickeyl | hehe |
21:44.33 | ljp_laptop | heh reflash |
21:44.43 | ljp_laptop | put too much junk in my 5000d rom |
21:44.52 | Twiun | yeah, I get that too |
21:45.08 | Twiun | why does it take space to erase files though? |
21:45.15 | ljp_laptop | cant understand it.. it fits just fine in this c700 ;) |
21:45.21 | Twiun | seems a bit counterintuitive |
21:46.27 | ljp_laptop | cant even make a swap file without space to write |
21:47.19 | ljp_laptop | oh well. heh nothing lost |
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21:50.51 | chouimat | hey ljp * |
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21:51.21 | ljp_laptop | hi choui |
22:02.51 | Twiun | mickeyl: time for some regex magic! |
22:02.59 | mickeyl | eeek |
22:02.59 | mickeyl | ;) |
22:03.35 | Twiun | let's hope I don't end up calling sed too often |
22:13.15 | mickeyl | n8 |
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22:28.48 | ljp_laptop | woot! |
22:28.55 | ljp_laptop | got wifi on this c700 |
22:35.45 | Twiun | cool |
22:37.36 | ljp_laptop | ya, just need to convience warwick that wireless-tools are the way they should handle things |
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23:07.06 | ljp_laptop | anyone ever try to cross compile links web browser? |
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23:10.24 | Twiun | nope |
23:13.03 | ljp_laptop | well,... why not? |
23:14.21 | Twiun | life's too short... or I was doing something else |
23:15.25 | ljp_laptop | ok, well. get on it, then |
23:15.29 | ljp_laptop | :) |
23:22.09 | cyn2 | ljp_laptop: get links2 with the graphical shiz |
23:22.13 | cyn2 | that'd be sweet |
23:23.05 | Twiun | what does links2 support? ssl, css, js? |
23:23.53 | treke|laptop | ssl |
23:24.02 | treke|laptop | I think it has some js support |
23:24.05 | treke|laptop | no css |
23:27.07 | cyn2 | no there's a links with full graphics support and stuff |
23:27.12 | cyn2 | surely it supports plenty of css |
23:27.33 | Twiun | cyn2: I wonder how it would cope with the touchscreen though |
23:27.37 | treke|laptop | cyn2: nope |
23:27.39 | treke|laptop | cyn2: No css |
23:27.42 | Twiun | no idea how libts works |
23:27.46 | Twiun | tslib even |
23:27.55 | ljp_laptop | well, I am going to try, while this thing compiles.. again.... |
23:28.10 | cyn2 | wow |
23:28.25 | cyn2 | http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~clock/twibright/links/ and indeed features says no css |
23:29.09 | cyn2 | but those screenshots have elements that are only accomplishable with css, like hyperlinks w/o underlines |
23:29.38 | cyn2 | http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~clock/twibright/links/shots/shot9.png - i doubt that dude made big ugly tables 1 pixel larger than all his tables to get borders :P |
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