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| 00:17.16 | ekkis | anyone know where I could get arm-elf-gcc in rpm for RH7.3? |
| 00:17.27 | ekkis | or even what the rpm name would be? |
| 00:17.56 | treke|wherever | you probably wont find one |
| 00:18.03 | treke|wherever | just download the tarbal from openzaurus.org |
| 00:18.25 | ekkis | aha... |
| 00:18.29 | ekkis | ok. thx. |
| 00:19.47 | chouimat | ~lart buildroot |
| 00:38.55 | icefox | Neo|Work: playing with KDE and finding a job :) |
| 00:39.42 | TimRiker | Neo|Work: did you get a call today or not? |
| 00:40.47 | icefox | TimRiker: last I was told not till September |
| 00:43.04 | chouimat | hey icefox |
| 00:43.26 | icefox | hey |
| 00:43.53 | chouimat | icefox: managed to have a working version of the palm support for gideon and I got my visa for nove hrady |
| 00:44.06 | icefox | cool |
| 00:44.18 | icefox | I have the pasport forms... hehe |
| 00:44.33 | icefox | might move depending on my next job so I am waiting on filing them out |
| 00:45.05 | chouimat | icefox: where? |
| 00:45.25 | chouimat | TimRiker: any job for a frenchy? |
| 00:45.29 | icefox | I have a few posibilities, but they are all "soon". :) |
| 00:45.44 | chouimat | icefox: I moved out of Quebec City |
| 00:45.50 | TimRiker | chouimat: these are all temp positions so we are not likely to move folks. |
| 00:46.14 | chouimat | TimRiker: ok :( |
| 00:46.18 | TimRiker | some might end up being permanent... who knows. |
| 00:46.44 | icefox | TimRiker: the job you were looking me to do, was that temp or perm? |
| 00:46.46 | chouimat | TimRiker: if you have a telecomute one it's ok for me ;) |
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| 01:47.49 | ljp_laptop | hmmm |
| 02:10.02 | ljp_laptop | *yawn* |
| 02:21.03 | TimRiker | no telecommute openings at present. just dallas contract tester positions |
| 02:21.21 | treke|wherever | how do you test a contract? |
| 02:21.27 | treke|wherever | show up and do no work? |
| 02:27.53 | ljp_laptop | if I ever find a telecommute job, I am moving to Anguilla. |
| 02:28.13 | treke|wherever | cant you telecommute for some of this trolltech shit? |
| 02:28.25 | ljp_laptop | get a beach house, set up wifi and a gazebo.... |
| 02:28.27 | treke|wherever | at least you can do something other than sit on your ass and wait for the australians |
| 02:29.01 | ljp_laptop | dunno. I suppose I could, really. but TT doesn't do that. |
| 02:29.34 | ljp_laptop | I am. I am trying to add qtopia to buildroot, so I can do a c700 image for them |
| 02:29.58 | ljp_laptop | I just want to get it working on 5000d before I puch changes |
| 02:30.02 | ljp_laptop | push |
| 02:31.22 | ljp_laptop | cant get the ts to work |
| 02:33.21 | icefox | Telecommuting works, but it only works for 4 out of 5 days of the week at the most |
| 02:33.24 | icefox | you have to have presense |
| 02:33.38 | icefox | a place where people can come and bug you |
| 02:33.43 | icefox | drag you to meetings etc |
| 02:34.20 | icefox | also you then get to know others there and can bug them and get to know more then just what is said on the mailinglist, but the water cooler rumor of new stuff and when stuff is imploding |
| 02:35.33 | ljp_laptop | depends on the job also. mine will involve communications between everyone, so being there with the developers I will be able to get things to them quicker |
| 02:37.05 | icefox | For me I choose going to work 99 times out of 100 simply because it gets me in the "work" mood. There isn't the fridge, phone, tv, mailman, tivo, wife calling from the other room :) |
| 02:37.24 | icefox | and my work computer only has "work", it doesn't have all my home fun stuff too |
| 02:39.00 | ljp_laptop | where are you working now? |
| 02:39.44 | icefox | I currently am not :) (unless you count hacking on kde and collecting transformers) |
| 02:39.56 | icefox | persuing jobs |
| 02:40.07 | ljp_laptop | ahhh |
| 02:40.13 | ljp_laptop | TI is hiring :) |
| 02:40.20 | icefox | yah, in september |
| 02:40.21 | icefox | ... |
| 02:40.35 | icefox | and if I still don't have a job then |
| 02:40.41 | icefox | it sounds cool |
| 02:40.51 | icefox | but being out of work for 6 months isn't very cool |
| 02:40.59 | ljp_laptop | I have been waiting now 8 weeks to get to my job |
| 02:42.42 | icefox | I have come to expect that it takes 1-2 months to find the job and another 1-2 months to actually get it (interviews, more interviews, contract reviews, etc infinitam) |
| 02:43.51 | ljp_laptop | heh, try an overseas job. you have an added immigration issue |
| 02:46.16 | icefox | another 3 months? |
| 02:46.30 | icefox | ljp_laptop: where are you now? Where are you going to? |
| 02:47.19 | ljp_laptop | colorado. going to Brisbane, Australia to work for trolltech |
| 02:47.41 | icefox | on qtopia? |
| 02:47.42 | icefox | hmm |
| 02:48.00 | ljp_laptop | yes |
| 02:48.12 | icefox | Hopefully you can help them get to qt3 faster :) |
| 02:48.12 | ljp_laptop | 'Qtopia COmmunity Liason" is my title |
| 02:48.21 | ljp_laptop | wont happen. |
| 02:48.28 | ljp_laptop | try qte4 |
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| 02:55.19 | treke|wherever | w00t |
| 02:55.28 | treke|wherever | axim is in transit |
| 03:21.59 | TheMasterMind1 | treke|wherever: you suck |
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| 03:25.17 | ekkis | I have a flexROM loader... what software can I use in linux for it? I'm following docs for loading an image onto a device but the final step just says "load blah.blah at 0x6000" without any explanation as to what that means! |
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| 03:37.34 | ekkis | don't everybody answer all at once! :) |
| 03:40.55 | ljp_laptop | huh? |
| 03:41.41 | ljp_laptop | no ones here at night lately |
| 03:41.55 | ekkis | I noticed |
| 03:42.07 | ekkis | got a clue for me? |
| 03:42.26 | ljp_laptop | once kergoth gets web access at home it will liven up |
| 03:42.31 | ljp_laptop | I have no idea |
| 03:42.41 | ekkis | heh... |
| 03:42.45 | ekkis | he's living in Texas now? |
| 03:45.02 | ljp_laptop | yup |
| 03:45.21 | ljp_laptop | hes been out rustlin the doggies at night |
| 03:45.43 | ekkis | lol |
| 03:45.47 | ljp_laptop | and probably some cow tippin too |
| 03:46.15 | ekkis | well... hope he's happier in his new job (which isn't really so new by now) |
| 03:48.13 | ljp_laptop | I am sure he is. tech support is the bottom of the heap |
| 03:50.04 | ekkis | heh |
| 03:50.08 | ljp_laptop | hmm, the ts patches aren't being applied... dratsab.. |
| 03:50.16 | ekkis | well, I'm off to Zs |
| 03:50.23 | ekkis | thx for hlp |
| 03:50.26 | ekkis | laters! |
| 03:50.47 | ljp_laptop | bye |
| 03:53.48 | treke|wherever | TheMasterMind1: if it makes you feel better, I'll probably only have it couple days |
| 03:55.15 | ljp_laptop | have what? chiggers? |
| 03:56.36 | TheMasterMind1 | treke|wherever: how come |
| 03:57.01 | treke|wherever | TheMasterMind1: it's gonna take a flight to england where pb is gonna try massaging a bootloader on |
| 03:57.22 | ljp_laptop | ehh bootloaders are overrated |
| 04:00.49 | ljp_laptop | my head hurts |
| 04:00.57 | treke|wherever | try more rum |
| 04:01.58 | ljp_laptop | less soda pop |
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| 04:08.16 | ljp_laptop | more ts action |
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| 04:36.03 | ljp_laptop | soo. who is going to port xstroke to opie? |
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| 08:36.35 | cmartin | hi mickeyl |
| 08:37.49 | cmartin | just building a new image from HEAD - when i go to the Communications next week, then I want to have wellenreiter ;) |
| 08:39.23 | cmartin | mickeyl: will the PIM apps from BRANCH run on HEAD? - would be nice to have those PIM fixes on the pad |
| 08:41.32 | mickeyl | cmartin: it all goes down to if the libopie from BRANCH is BC with the libopie from HEAD. If it is not, you will notice and I fill fix HEAD accordingly, ok? ;) |
| 08:47.51 | cmartin | k |
| 08:48.34 | cmartin | are the fixes in BRANCH very noticable or can they only be seen at second sight? |
| 08:49.49 | cmartin | i want to install as much software as i can get on the device, so that those guys at skeye can see as much as possible - maybe they get thursty for more ;) |
| 08:51.09 | cmartin | BTW: check out the KFZ-Halterung for the skeye.pad. it has two serial ports. this would be a perfect wardriving combination - two cards and a GPS on serial - WOW |
| 08:51.53 | cmartin | i'm getting pretty anxious to get my hands on this device |
| 08:52.50 | mickeyl | cmartin: the fixes in BRANCH are mainly to the PIM applications - very much bugfixes. But for demo'ing HEAD will be enough... |
| 08:53.06 | mickeyl | which link to see the KFZ-Halterung? |
| 08:53.46 | cmartin | go to the website www.skeye.de and click on the link for the skeye.pad SL and then "Zubehör" |
| 08:54.44 | cmartin | forget it - there's no Beschreibung there - only a picture |
| 08:55.15 | cmartin | i either read that in the forums or on the handbook i downloaded |
| 08:55.22 | cmartin | s/on/in |
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| 08:56.34 | mickeyl | hi pb_ |
| 08:57.13 | pb_ | hi mickeyl |
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| 08:58.17 | cmartin | mickeyl: no it's in the Produktinformation PDF - it says "zwei serielle Schnittstellen für den Anschluss von Druckern, GPS-Empfängern usw." |
| 08:59.49 | mickeyl | cmartin: that really sounds like _the_ device for wardriving or whatever. if they would have a reasonable price, this could be a killer product. but as it stands, imho it will share the fate of the SIMpad sooner or later. |
| 09:00.36 | mickeyl | aargh... some people... |
| 09:00.48 | mickeyl | I am Using PXA255 for an embedded application.so I kindly request you to provide this information as early as possible. |
| 09:00.59 | mickeyl | nothing more nothing less... |
| 09:01.06 | cmartin | yes, but we shouldn't say that too loud - maybe they don't like us anymore then ;) |
| 09:01.52 | mickeyl | "as early as possible" - this kind of thinking all participants of a mailing list are hired support slaves kills me... grrr |
| 09:01.52 | cmartin | mickeyl: ? |
| 09:01.56 | mickeyl | cmartin: true |
| 09:02.16 | mickeyl | cmartin: (ah that just came in through arm linux kernel mailing list) |
| 09:04.45 | cmartin | mickeyl: do you know if that timezones split is still causing problems - if so then i'll just put in the single ipk right away |
| 09:06.54 | mickeyl | cmartin: no idea - I didn't build HEAD for quite a while... |
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| 09:26.35 | cmartin | timezones split still causes problems for me when running "make image" |
| 09:29.37 | mickeyl | still building here... |
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| 09:39.55 | cmartin | trying to upload a 19MB image - i'll cross my fingers |
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| 09:43.34 | cmartin | mickeyl: FYI - image >14 MB work with the 2.5.3 bootloader and our partitioning !! |
| 09:51.58 | mickeyl | ah nice! |
| 09:53.31 | cmartin | mickeyl: of sorry, wrong - the packages init script seems to write a lot to flash - it runs out of memory and terminates |
| 09:54.26 | mickeyl | hmm... CL4 ? |
| 09:54.39 | cmartin | no SL4 |
| 09:54.51 | mickeyl | hmm... how big was that image? |
| 09:55.19 | cmartin | image was 64/0 and 19 MB in size - it terminated at package 90 (mailit) |
| 09:55.57 | cmartin | i removed mailit and the zimage i forgot to remove from /boot - now it is 18MB |
| 09:56.16 | cmartin | try that |
| 09:58.43 | cmartin | i have to hurry - we're having a Kundenevent (starts at 12:30) at work and i want to be wireless ;) |
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| 09:59.42 | cmartin | 18MB image is downloading over net now |
| 10:00.25 | cmartin | now it's writing to flash - this is really much faster over the net than serial ;) |
| 10:01.40 | mickeyl | mmmh... |
| 10:02.16 | mickeyl | but then again, i boot the simpad mostly over usb ;) |
| 10:02.29 | mickeyl | I'm also on bootloader 2.4 yet |
| 10:02.34 | mickeyl | been waiting for redboot |
| 10:02.59 | cmartin | download over net takes ~ 1 minute - serial ~ 25 minutes (write to flash is the same) |
| 10:04.11 | cmartin | 2.4! - then you have never flashed a jffs2 image? |
| 10:04.27 | cmartin | always just updating? |
| 10:04.44 | mickeyl | cmartin: that is true. not over the "regular" way |
| 10:05.05 | mickeyl | i boot via usb and then i flash via command line |
| 10:05.12 | mickeyl | eraseall and then dd |
| 10:05.14 | mickeyl | :) |
| 10:05.55 | cmartin | the real hardcore method |
| 10:06.50 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 10:07.14 | cmartin | packages are being configured now - cmartin crosses his fingers again |
| 10:07.25 | mickeyl | *AlsoCrossing* |
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| 10:11.32 | cmartin | nope |
| 10:11.53 | cmartin | i'll make a smaller image and just install the ipks seperately |
| 10:12.24 | mickeyl | most probably a bootloader problem |
| 10:12.42 | cmartin | yep |
| 10:12.59 | cmartin | memory is enough there i would think |
| 10:13.07 | mickeyl | yes |
| 10:14.15 | cmartin | new image = 13.2 MB with wellenreiter and a couple of others for starters |
| 10:14.52 | cmartin | before you ask - yes libopie2 and libpcap are there ;-) |
| 10:15.04 | mickeyl | good ;) |
| 10:15.19 | cmartin | but i think ipkg would terminated if they weren't though |
| 10:15.26 | mickeyl | yes it would |
| 10:15.44 | mickeyl | as soon as binutils becomes compilable again, i will take a new shot @ compiling a uclibc-based image |
| 10:16.08 | cmartin | how much space do we win with that? |
| 10:16.12 | mickeyl | no idea |
| 10:16.21 | mickeyl | but i hope it to be around 2M |
| 10:16.37 | cmartin | this would be great |
| 10:18.58 | cmartin | booting new image now |
| 10:19.28 | cmartin | 121 packages as opposed to 141 before to be reconfigured |
| 10:20.39 | mickeyl | for debugging purposes it would be good if one could login into the pad already in the configuration phase |
| 10:20.58 | cmartin | yes it would |
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| 11:21.47 | Twiun | afternoon' |
| 11:23.00 | pb_ | hi Twiun |
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| 11:49.17 | Piete | Hey guys |
| 11:50.25 | Piete | whats this? I join and people start quitting.. |
| 11:51.26 | effy-kun | that's right buddy, and you're going to have to learn to like it |
| 11:53.15 | Piete | lol |
| 11:54.31 | Twiun | hehe |
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| 12:11.52 | ljp_laptop | *yawn* |
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| 12:17.06 | mickeyl | do we have a C750 user here? |
| 12:18.21 | Twiun | btw, http://theregister.co.uk/content/68/31688.html |
| 12:18.34 | Twiun | looks like Sharp UK is killing off the Z too |
| 12:19.09 | effy-kun | ? |
| 12:19.16 | Piete | wow.. |
| 12:19.31 | Piete | are there any distributors in Europe left? |
| 12:19.58 | Twiun | effy-kun: Sharp UK and Sharp DE are bailing out of the linux pda market it seems |
| 12:20.15 | Twiun | effy-kun: the 5500 has been discontinued and the *laugh* 5600 has no chance |
| 12:20.30 | mickeyl | well... i have been in contact with the german distributor trisoft.de |
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| 12:20.42 | mickeyl | i will have a c750 next week |
| 12:21.03 | ljp_laptop | well, hmm |
| 12:21.31 | Twiun | mickeyl: how much? |
| 12:21.34 | ljp_laptop | I get a c700 loaner |
| 12:21.46 | Twiun | ljp_laptop: from TT? |
| 12:21.52 | ljp_laptop | yup |
| 12:21.55 | mickeyl | Twiun: 750EUR |
| 12:22.13 | mickeyl | Twiun: (minus a small discount because I'm an opie member ;) |
| 12:22.27 | mickeyl | i know it is pricey... but the unit is too sexy |
| 12:22.50 | mickeyl | I always wanted to have a Psion 5mx or a Revo and now... i soon have something which is better ;) |
| 12:22.51 | ljp_laptop | opie discounts? |
| 12:23.03 | effy-kun | Im still confused as to how Sharo UK is trying to kill off the Z |
| 12:23.08 | Piete | I have a 5500 neener neener |
| 12:23.09 | mickeyl | ljp_laptop: for the german developers. |
| 12:23.18 | ljp_laptop | hmmmm |
| 12:23.25 | mickeyl | ljp_laptop: you might be able to make a discount with an australian distributor? ;) |
| 12:23.31 | ljp_laptop | seems a bit 'country-ist' to me. :) |
| 12:23.32 | mickeyl | (well... trolltech will give you one) |
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| 13:37.55 | *** topic/#openembedded is OpenEmbedded - It Sucks Less!(tm) | News at http://openzaurus.org/ | User support questions in #openzaurus | OE Buildroot devs in #buildroot-oe | http://www.zaurus.com/dev/board/index.php?s=5be76b086a395e018104222ab77fc215&act=ST&f=27&t=3668 <- cheap c7x0 with warranty |
| 13:39.42 | bipolar | bach: yeah... probbly some undocumented 'feature' :) |
| 13:40.10 | bipolar | what version of kismet are you running? |
| 13:40.55 | bach | bipolar: undocumented? what are u talking about? |
| 13:41.05 | bach | 2.8.1_1 |
| 13:41.20 | bipolar | bach: I'm installing it now. |
| 13:41.43 | bach | good luck |
| 13:45.25 | bipolar | bach: what happens when you run kismet_monitor? |
| 13:45.57 | bach | looks fine |
| 13:46.37 | bipolar | hmm.. my version is really borked. kismet_wireless garbles my screen. I'm running a gcc3 dist though. |
| 13:46.43 | ljp_laptop | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6375275932.html |
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| 15:10.06 | pb_ | morning kergoth |
| 15:10.30 | kergoth | hey |
| 15:12.47 | TheMasterMind1 | hi |
| 15:14.52 | Twiun | Howdydooody-dooodah |
| 15:36.52 | bipolar | kergoth: what make command would I use if I just wanted to checkout the source of a program without trying to apply any of the patches? |
| 15:38.09 | kergoth | rtfm. |
| 15:38.13 | kergoth | doc/BUILD outlines the make targets |
| 15:38.21 | kergoth | docs rather |
| 15:40.55 | bipolar | kergoth: I already checked them. There's nothing there about getting sources, just cleaning them up. |
| 15:41.22 | kergoth | odd |
| 15:41.25 | kergoth | sources obtains sources |
| 15:41.30 | kergoth | sourcetrees extracts & patches |
| 15:41.37 | bipolar | cool, thanks. ;) |
| 15:41.41 | kergoth | np |
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| 15:48.49 | kergoth | ibot: friday |
| 15:48.49 | | Friday sucks, because it should be the weekend, but you're stuck working anyway. |
| 15:49.54 | bipolar | It looks like libavcodec has taken the patch we have in buildroot into the main dist, so it isn't needed anymore. |
| 15:51.36 | kergoth | ~$ . .bashrc |
| 15:51.37 | kergoth | Friday sucks |
| 15:51.37 | kergoth | It should be the weekend, but you're stuck working anyway. |
| 15:51.37 | kergoth | heh |
| 15:51.40 | kergoth | there we go |
| 15:52.53 | pb_ | heh |
| 16:17.00 | Dr_Who | heh |
| 16:17.29 | Dr_Who | o well least the cries from your co-works tends to start to die down in direct relation to the weather on friday |
| 16:20.01 | absentia | did anyone read the paper from mitch kapor on linux on the desktops... he mentioned the zaurus :-) |
| 16:44.34 | bipolar | kergoth: what would cause a package to not get passed the path to the toolchain, etc? libgcc1 won't build unless I put the bin dir in my path. |
| 16:44.48 | bipolar | make[1]: arm-linux-gcc: Command not found |
| 16:45.40 | kergoth | the include of Vars.make is probably happening after it does expansion on that target |
| 16:46.35 | bipolar | kergoth: expansion? I'm not exactly sure what that means, but the Vars.make include is right after the package discription in the makefile. |
| 16:47.14 | kergoth | just move the PATH set outside of the if block based on $(Name) in Vars.make |
| 16:48.32 | bipolar | kergoth: you lost me, sorry |
| 16:48.49 | kergoth | .. |
| 16:48.52 | kergoth | vi Vars.make |
| 16:48.57 | kergoth | find where it sets PATH |
| 16:49.13 | kergoth | its doing so inside of an if block. like ifneq ($(Name),) |
| 16:49.19 | kergoth | move it before the ifneq or after the endif |
| 16:49.24 | kergoth | 'outside the block' |
| 16:50.42 | bipolar | kergoth: ok, I didn't realize you were talking about Vars.make. THought we were still in libgcc1 Makefile. |
| 16:51.28 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:51.28 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:51.30 | kergoth | heh |
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| 16:52.52 | bipolar | kergoth: there is the line: |
| 16:52.53 | bipolar | export PATH:=$(if $(CROSS),$(CROSS_DIR)/bin:)$(SCRIPTS_DIR):$(STAGING_BINDIR):$(PATH) |
| 16:53.04 | bipolar | but it does not seem to be in an if block |
| 16:53.22 | kergoth | are CROSS and CROSS_DIR outside the if block as well? |
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| 16:55.19 | bipolar | CROSS is in an ifeq, I think. this file is confusing. :p |
| 16:56.17 | kergoth | yeah it is |
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| 16:57.01 | bipolar | I just wonder why it would only fail for libgcc1 and not anything else. |
| 16:57.09 | kergoth | because of the way gnu make parses makefiles |
| 16:57.36 | kergoth | I gave you the short explanation which you didnt understand, I dont have the time to go into detail on how gnu parses makefiles |
| 16:57.44 | kergoth | hit up gnu's online docs if you're really that interested |
| 16:58.18 | kergoth | bipolar: and you're wrong |
| 16:58.25 | kergoth | bipolar: PATH is within a 'ifdef Name' block |
| 16:58.30 | kergoth | bipolar: the indentation of this file isnt perfect. |
| 16:58.31 | bipolar | *sigh* |
| 16:58.36 | kergoth | move PATH out of the ifdef name blcok |
| 16:59.31 | mewyn | yay. my memory is going to come in today |
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| 17:04.04 | bipolar | I hate it when I just can't frickin see things |
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| 17:29.17 | ljp_laptop | mmmmm banana popcicle |
| 17:30.17 | bipolar | kergoth`food: ok, I found what you were talking about (ifdef Name). I put the PATH line in front and in back of that block, but it still won't find the toolchain. |
| 17:32.13 | ljp_laptop | in a config.in is it ok to do something like depends on OPIE || QTOPIA |
| 17:40.46 | ljp_laptop | nm |
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| 17:52.39 | ljp_laptop | hmmmm |
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| 18:00.05 | ljp_laptop | how come kinkatta lite isnt in buildroot? |
| 18:07.12 | ljp_laptop | and how about <insert zsi entry here> ? :) |
| 18:07.56 | treke | go ahead and add it |
| 18:08.14 | ljp_laptop | you always say that |
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| 18:14.42 | ljp_laptop | hey kergoth,. how goes it for friday? |
| 18:15.03 | treke | afternoon kergoth |
| 18:15.42 | ljp_laptop | I like compiling... |
| 18:16.12 | mewyn | hey kerg |
| 18:16.37 | treke | hehe |
| 18:20.57 | pb_ | heh |
| 18:20.59 | ljp_laptop | does tslib work with 5000d as well? |
| 18:21.03 | kergoth | yeah |
| 18:21.14 | kergoth | set the ts device env var to COLLIE |
| 18:21.26 | ljp_laptop | hmm |
| 18:21.52 | kergoth | it should grab the proper tslib sh script and stuff it into /etc/profile.d/ in the tslib ipk creation |
| 18:21.55 | kergoth | so it should 'just work' |
| 18:22.01 | treke | ljp_laptop: Well. Figure out when hell will freeze over, then add a week |
| 18:22.58 | ljp_laptop | well, I think hell must be freezing, then |
| 18:23.18 | Neo|Work | hrm |
| 18:23.32 | Neo|Work | given byte[] is there a finished way in JAva to get a hex encoded string from that? |
| 18:24.10 | ljp_laptop | kergoth: where do I set that? or is it set by the build? |
| 18:24.55 | ljp_laptop | nm, I see |
| 18:25.04 | kergoth | ljp_laptop: the build puts the tslib script into place so that it gets sourced by a login shell and the vars get set |
| 18:25.07 | kergoth | k |
| 18:25.20 | Twiun | Neo|Work: yup |
| 18:25.58 | Twiun | Neo|Work: although you may need to it byte by byte - are you doing this to output something? |
| 18:26.33 | Neo|Work | I want a MD5 digest in hexadecimal format |
| 18:26.35 | Neo|Work | simply |
| 18:27.48 | Neo|Work | and by the way, doing it byte per byte is not really a "finished way" but rather a low level hack |
| 18:28.07 | Neo|Work | stupid java |
| 18:28.17 | Twiun | I wasn't suggesting otherwise ;) although I think there's a java.security class for md5 hashes |
| 18:28.18 | Twiun | one sec |
| 18:28.57 | ljp_laptop | hmm, konq e compile doesnt like me. oh well. |
| 18:29.13 | Neo|Work | well, I have the hash but a digest is typically binary |
| 18:30.43 | Twiun | the problem really is that you can't easily swap from a byte[] representation to another |
| 18:31.18 | Neo|Work | uh |
| 18:31.24 | Neo|Work | byte == 0-255 no? |
| 18:31.33 | Neo|Work | I mean, like always |
| 18:32.17 | Twiun | byte[] not byte |
| 18:32.50 | Twiun | converting an array of bytes into something else invariably needs iterating through each member |
| 18:32.53 | Twiun | unlike C/C++ |
| 18:33.47 | Neo|Work | byte[] is just an array of byte... |
| 18:34.06 | Neo|Work | and of course, to convert to hex SOMETHING has to iterate through it, just like in C/C++ |
| 18:34.15 | Neo|Work | however I wondered if that SOMETHING already existed |
| 18:34.30 | Twiun | you were looking for something that operated on the whole array - I couldn't find something in the existing apis |
| 18:34.38 | Neo|Work | i.e String hex = MagicClass.ByteArrayToHexString(bytearr); |
| 18:34.47 | Neo|Work | nothing more than that |
| 18:34.55 | Neo|Work | basic functionality if you work with message digest |
| 18:34.56 | Neo|Work | s |
| 18:35.15 | Twiun | only if you need the digest output somewhere for a human to read, surely? |
| 18:35.38 | Neo|Work | or need to transport it with higher safety or.. |
| 18:35.44 | Neo|Work | it's a very basic function to have, really |
| 18:36.10 | Neo|Work | anyhow, I am skipping it using urlencoding instead |
| 18:36.29 | Twiun | lol |
| 18:36.51 | Neo|Work | it's used in a cookie value |
| 18:37.01 | Neo|Work | URL encoding is pretty much it except with extra % in there |
| 18:38.01 | Neo|Work | sometimes the lack of basic functionality in Java still baffles me |
| 18:38.16 | Neo|Work | the fact that there's no (standard) sprintf type functionality is mindboggling |
| 18:38.26 | Neo|Work | or sscanf for that matter |
| 18:38.34 | Twiun | true - the TextFormat stuff is too clunky |
| 18:39.21 | Neo|Work | to say the least |
| 18:39.32 | Neo|Work | a lot of stuff in Java, even when it's actually there, is clunky |
| 18:39.33 | Twiun | it gets worse with ChoiceFormat, much worse |
| 18:40.02 | Twiun | I'm still not completely won over by the "design-by-committee" approach |
| 18:40.48 | Twiun | I'm getting into C++ anyway - going to de-emphasise java |
| 18:41.38 | ljp_laptop | what!?! |
| 18:41.57 | ljp_laptop | but.. you're the java guy!! |
| 18:42.12 | Twiun | correction... I'm a _jobless_ java guy |
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| 18:42.21 | ljp_laptop | who am I going to send people too that ask for java help? ;) |
| 18:42.29 | Twiun | ljp_laptop: how about we swap? |
| 18:42.31 | Neo|Work | I'm sure rnwk would hire you. :P |
| 18:42.45 | Twiun | rnwk? |
| 18:42.57 | ljp_laptop | the only thing I know about java is that it tastes best with lots of cream |
| 18:43.09 | ljp_laptop | real networks |
| 18:43.40 | Twiun | ahhh |
| 18:44.04 | Twiun | Neo|Work: funny thing is, I'm a company director - but still jobless |
| 18:46.22 | kergoth | sharp writes some pretty shitty shell scripts |
| 18:47.27 | Twiun | that's not news! |
| 18:47.39 | Twiun | Now, if they'd written something well... |
| 18:47.57 | kergoth | thatd definately be news |
| 18:49.23 | Twiun | so anyway... what did you find in the script? |
| 18:50.13 | kergoth | pretty much what was expected, it just parses /proc/mtd and calls out commands to write the bits into flash |
| 18:50.29 | kergoth | hardcoded values for the device in question |
| 18:50.46 | kergoth | brb |
| 18:55.24 | kergoth | k |
| 18:59.20 | Neo|Work | kergoth: you got a decoded version of it? |
| 18:59.32 | kergoth | Neo|Work: he wrote a decoder/encoder |
| 18:59.40 | kergoth | sashz in #zaurus |
| 18:59.41 | Neo|Work | useful eh? |
| 18:59.52 | Neo|Work | how was it encoded? |
| 19:00.13 | kergoth | he didnt know, i havent bothered to look. he just has a table of values to do the translation |
| 19:00.22 | kergoth | didnt actually discover any algorithm |
| 19:00.40 | Neo|Work | so it's a fixed this char -> this char type decoding? |
| 19:01.09 | Twiun | that's pretty weak security |
| 19:01.24 | Twiun | also completely unnecessary |
| 19:01.25 | kergoth | Neo|Work: from what i can see, yeah |
| 19:01.28 | kergoth | Twiun: exactly |
| 19:01.30 | kergoth | there's no motivation |
| 19:01.41 | kergoth | i mean my god, do you want to hide your calls to expr and nandcp and shit? |
| 19:01.51 | kergoth | idiocy |
| 19:02.31 | absentia | h0h0h0 |
| 19:03.21 | Neo|Work | l00k, it's l33t santa! |
| 19:03.41 | Twiun | kergoth: seems to me to be purely a "management wants everything secured" -> "developer doesn't give a shit, makes them happy with least possible effort" |
| 19:04.19 | cyn | he should've just named the c source files .jpg |
| 19:04.28 | cyn | when they double clicked it it would error and they'd nod approvingly |
| 19:04.39 | cyn | ah, script, same thing tho |
| 19:05.23 | Twiun | management does all kinds of weird things |
| 19:05.32 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 19:05.35 | TheMasterMind1 | Twiun should know |
| 19:06.06 | Twiun | TheMasterMind1: not yet - the company doesn't employ me |
| 19:07.08 | Twiun | TheMasterMind1: payroll, taxes, insurance are way too much hassle to get into atm |
| 19:08.54 | pb_ | mmm. inland revenue sent me another tax bill yesterday. suck. |
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| 19:23.30 | kergoth | hmm |
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| 20:42.46 | kergoth | grr. |
| 20:43.08 | TheMasterMind1 | what |
| 20:43.14 | pb_ | he said "grr." |
| 20:43.28 | TheMasterMind1 | why |
| 20:43.45 | pb_ | because nobody responded to his earlier "hmm", I suppose |
| 20:43.58 | kergoth | pb_: would you happen to know what the beginning of an arm zimage looks like? |
| 20:44.05 | kergoth | initial bytes of the file |
| 20:44.46 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm just guessing, but maybe its 3 4 2 4 3 6 5 9 5 2 3 5 2 |
| 20:45.10 | pb_ | kergoth: the thing that identifies it as a zImage is 0x16f2818 at offset 0x24. |
| 20:45.49 | pb_ | they generally start with eight nops (0xe1a00000) and then a branch (0xea000002) |
| 20:46.11 | TheMasterMind1 | wow |
| 20:46.35 | pb_ | then the word at 0x28 is the address it wants to be loaded at (which I think is always zero nowadays) and the word at 0x2c is the length. |
| 20:47.00 | pb_ | you get bonus points for guessing where 0x16f2818 comes from. |
| 20:48.26 | pb_ | TheMasterMind1: so your guess was close |
| 20:48.44 | TheMasterMind1 | wow, it was? |
| 20:48.52 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:49.23 | kergoth | pb_: thanks, I appreciate it. I suppose I should get around to reading about the kernel's initial boot stuff one of these days |
| 20:49.57 | pb_ | kergoth: you're welcome. |
| 20:51.48 | pb_ | out of interest, why did you want to know? |
| 20:55.40 | kergoth | pb_: needed to figure out where in the c750's flash the zimage resides. |
| 20:57.28 | pb_ | aha |
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| 20:59.10 | kergoth | :) or more specifically, if the address i had for it was correct. it was. |
| 21:02.53 | pb_ | heh |
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| 21:06.29 | funkyjoe | hello, I have a question about sysvinit in buildroot-oz. could somebody help me? |
| 21:08.20 | kergoth | dont ask to ask, ask. |
| 21:08.53 | funkyjoe | ok |
| 21:09.28 | funkyjoe | so got most of the things compiled in the buildroot-oz. except sysvinit |
| 21:09.55 | funkyjoe | the problem is that it gets the sysvinit_2.84.orig.tar.gz |
| 21:10.04 | kergoth | thats a problem how? |
| 21:10.46 | funkyjoe | but cant get sysvinit_2.84-3.diff.gz, it looks like that only the newer 2.85 version is available. |
| 21:11.08 | funkyjoe | thats the prob. |
| 21:11.49 | kergoth | yeah, that happens regularly |
| 21:11.51 | funkyjoe | in google etc. were a lot of 2.84-3.diff's listed but they're not downloadable. |
| 21:12.10 | kergoth | go ahead and bk vi packages/sysvinit/Makefile and s/2.84/2.85/, and chagne teh debian revision appropriately |
| 21:12.17 | kergoth | then mrproper sysvinit and try it againm |
| 21:13.23 | funkyjoe | i played around with the makefile, it tried too. set it to 2.85 and revision 4.1 but with no success. it downloads the files,but than i get stuck with compiler errors. |
| 21:13.48 | kergoth | dunno what to tell you then. |
| 21:13.54 | kergoth | wait for someone to fix it, or fix it yourself. |
| 21:13.57 | kergoth | there are your options. |
| 21:14.39 | funkyjoe | and how do you get a new running version??? could perhaps someone here send me the "old" source files? |
| 21:16.37 | kergoth | hm? |
| 21:16.44 | kergoth | if it fails to compile, someone will figure out why and fix it. |
| 21:16.47 | kergoth | (2.85) |
| 21:17.22 | kergoth | anyone know what 'logical' means in context of nand flash? sharp has two tools for writing a file into flash in their initial ramdisk, one is nandcp, one is nandlogical |
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| 21:26.30 | ljp_laptop | hmmmm |
| 21:26.42 | kergoth | hrm |
| 21:26.59 | kergoth | the c750 wont boot this kernel, and i have no idea why |
| 21:27.07 | kergoth | and i cant debug, because i forgot my serial cable in minnesota |
| 21:27.11 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:27.13 | cyn | hehe |
| 21:27.21 | cyn | the c7x0's use the same connector?/ |
| 21:27.25 | kergoth | yeah, its identical |
| 21:27.30 | cyn | wow that i knew not |
| 21:27.39 | ljp_laptop | anyway to tell if ts is getting anything on the console? |
| 21:27.50 | kergoth | ljp_laptop: if you're using tslib, use ts_print or ts_print_raw |
| 21:27.55 | kergoth | ljp_laptop: if not, cat < /dev/ts |
| 21:28.01 | cyn | I just assumed the normal connector was bigger and bulkier than the c7x0s |
| 21:28.10 | ljp_laptop | how can I tell which runtime I am booted into? |
| 21:28.23 | kergoth | from the commandline it wont matter |
| 21:28.28 | kergoth | if you have tslib installed, use its tools |
| 21:28.29 | kergoth | its easier |
| 21:31.24 | ljp_laptop | hmm. look slike qtopia/calibrate isnt receiving anything |
| 21:31.34 | kergoth | does ts_print show the events? |
| 21:31.42 | ljp_laptop | yes |
| 21:32.16 | ljp_laptop | I am going to rebuild qte/qtopia without ts, though |
| 21:32.24 | ljp_laptop | till I can calibrate |
| 21:38.27 | kergoth | ljp_laptop: do me a favor, do a ts_calibrate, then a ts_test. make sure the cross follows your cursor |
| 21:41.12 | ljp_laptop | ts_calibrate failed.. determinant too small |
| 21:41.21 | kergoth | odd |
| 21:41.24 | ljp_laptop | and its rotated |
| 21:41.31 | kergoth | yeah, rotation is to be expected |
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| 21:43.14 | kergoth | hrm. |
| 21:48.35 | ljp_laptop | might be nice to be able to compile opie apps for qtopia.. |
| 21:48.55 | ljp_laptop | like an opie-apps package |
| 21:49.24 | kergoth | hrm |
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| 21:51.00 | ljp_laptop | hrm |
| 21:51.41 | kergoth | I hate it when something is going wrong, and you know it must be something incredibly simple you're missing, and yet it continues to waste your time |
| 21:52.39 | ljp_laptop | I know the feeling |
| 21:53.00 | ljp_laptop | good news is I get a c700 loaner. woot! |
| 21:53.13 | kergoth | nice. tt? |
| 21:53.18 | ljp_laptop | yup |
| 21:53.39 | ljp_laptop | 'uhh, Aron, I bricked your c700. can I keep it?' |
| 21:53.49 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:55.18 | ljp_laptop | I am lucky I have two z's. it has saved me many times. |
| 21:55.40 | ljp_laptop | suppose I could have gotten a cf reader |
| 21:56.48 | tiptone | exit |
| 21:57.02 | tiptone | oops, good weekend all... |
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| 22:15.54 | ljp_laptop | bbl |
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| 22:25.38 | treke|wh1rever | afternoon kergoth |
| 22:28.33 | kergoth | what the .. |
| 22:28.35 | kergoth | okay get this |
| 22:28.39 | kergoth | i run this tool on the initrd on the c750 |
| 22:28.50 | kergoth | nandlogical /dev/mtd1 WRITE 882696 1294336 /mnt/cf/zimage.bin |
| 22:28.52 | kergoth | now |
| 22:29.07 | kergoth | that zimage ends up in the mtd1 alright, at location 0x5F7790 |
| 22:29.19 | kergoth | tell me, how the fuck does that work? |
| 22:29.52 | W8TVI | Hey kergoth: the the Is the 24/40 split the best to use? |
| 22:30.04 | kergoth | W8TVI: its a personal decision, and #openzaurus would be the place to ask |
| 22:30.20 | W8TVI | I askedd there... |
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| 22:30.33 | W8TVI | No one answered |
| 22:31.22 | W8TVI | Let me ask you this: how much free space is left in the flash after a fresh install? |
| 22:31.59 | mickeyl | depends on your device |
| 22:32.25 | W8TVI | Oh.. duh |
| 22:32.30 | W8TVI | Its the sl-550 |
| 22:32.35 | W8TVI | 0 |
| 22:32.36 | mickeyl | iirc approx. 3MB then |
| 22:32.59 | W8TVI | Hmm... that might be enough then |
| 22:33.42 | W8TVI | Do they have top and things like that on there? I couldn't find anything that said what was included |
| 22:34.07 | mickeyl | yes. a lot of normal shell stuff is already in. others can be installed later. |
| 22:34.16 | mickeyl | a list is missing, you're right. |
| 22:34.24 | W8TVI | Ok.. |
| 22:34.46 | W8TVI | I had to install a bunch of stuff to bring the sharp one up o snuff |
| 22:36.11 | kergoth | son of a bitch |
| 22:36.17 | kergoth | hmm |
| 22:36.24 | mickeyl | ? |
| 22:36.42 | kergoth | my mtd1 had a ton of shit overwritten, if i'm not careful i'll have a bricked c750 on my hands here |
| 22:37.00 | mickeyl | damn... caution |
| 22:37.24 | mickeyl | how's c750 progressing? i just ordered one which will be there next week |
| 22:40.01 | Neo|Work | kergoth: uh oh. :P |
| 22:40.17 | Twiun | re |
| 22:41.20 | mickeyl | kergoth: could you please reserve update the OZ news page before you leave for weekend? I'm getting pestered with questions re. future oz releases or if the project is dead or what etc... a small news entry stating "it's in progress - have patience" would be nice. especially for the 5600 and c7x0 users which are really longing to get away from Sharp OS ;)) |
| 22:43.35 | kergoth | yeah, i'm sure the sharp press release re: european support makes people want an upgrade path, as well |
| 22:43.46 | mickeyl | exactly. t'would be important |
| 22:44.05 | mickeyl | for them to get an official statement from you as the project leader |
| 22:46.55 | Twiun | ..." When it's ready dammit!" |
| 22:47.15 | Twiun | I fondly remember the queries leading to the 3.2 release |
| 22:47.20 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:47.52 | mickeyl | mmh... but frankly, during the 3.1 series there was a lot more "visible" activity in the project |
| 22:47.58 | Twiun | you should start keeping a blog, kergoth |
| 22:48.16 | kergoth | yep, we're in a definate dead zone right now wrt OZ, due to my focus on the new build infrastructure and lacking internet at home |
| 22:48.29 | kergoth | these tools can kiss my ass |
| 22:48.35 | kergoth | stupid fucking .. grr |
| 22:48.42 | Twiun | it's also the summer and a lot of developers are on holiday too |
| 22:48.51 | Twiun | seeing as most of them are in Uni |
| 22:49.04 | kergoth | yeah |
| 22:50.45 | Twiun | I don't suppose there's any interest in TI to take credit for supporting the continuing development of the oz/oe stuff? |
| 22:51.58 | kergoth | brb |
| 22:53.07 | Twiun | mickeyl: You could also get some info about opensimpad up on the oz news site |
| 22:53.17 | Twiun | mickeyl: show that the community is also still alive |
| 22:54.10 | mickeyl | Twiun: yeah, right. that sounds good. however the 5600 and c7x0 users have been waiting really long now... |
| 22:54.20 | mickeyl | and considered that i'm soon among them ;)) |
| 22:55.42 | Twiun | mickeyl: ok then, just get a one-liner at the bottom of kergoth's quick post ;) |
| 22:55.56 | mickeyl | oh did he already post something? |
| 22:56.09 | mickeyl | Twiun: what's the status of that libfb stuff btw.? |
| 22:57.19 | Twiun | mickeyl: stagnant at the moment |
| 22:57.41 | mickeyl | still busy with that server? |
| 22:57.47 | Neo|Work | aha |
| 22:57.51 | Twiun | mickeyl: yup |
| 22:57.53 | Neo|Work | <KergothWillMurderCustomers> cube borgs |
| 22:57.53 | Neo|Work | <KergothWillMurderCustomers> i hate cubicles |
| 22:57.54 | Neo|Work | :-) |
| 22:58.09 | kergoth | hah |
| 22:58.11 | kergoth | when's that from? |
| 22:58.13 | Twiun | mickeyl: alsp, Daniele isn't happy about the performance hit the rotation code added to libFB so that probably won't get added any time soon |
| 22:58.27 | Twiun | mickeyl: and the other patches aren't really quality code ;) |
| 22:58.42 | Twiun | mickeyl: but yeah, the server is still occupying my attention |
| 22:59.00 | Neo|Work | kergoth: Tim's Henry's irc log |
| 22:59.02 | mickeyl | Twiun: i see. did you ever take a look into directFB? this is a helluva library... fast and capable... and did i say alphablending? :D |
| 22:59.06 | Neo|Work | http://henrylyon.rikers.org/henryirc.txt |
| 22:59.16 | Neo|Work | so my kids were 10 months old at the time - quite a while ago |
| 22:59.33 | Twiun | mickeyl: I've spent 3 days evaluating different website content management tools/framework lately and I'm getting to the stage that I think I'm going to have to roll my own |
| 23:00.03 | mickeyl | Twiun: hmm... yeah i know this situation... nothing really fits |
| 23:00.04 | Twiun | mickeyl: yeah, I had a quick look at directFB - it seemed big last I checked, but considering how much we were adding to libFB, I think I'll revesit it |
| 23:00.31 | Twiun | mickeyl: it's amazing that I can't find a simple tool for creating corpporate public sites |
| 23:00.47 | Twiun | mickeyl: it's not as if it's all that complicated |
| 23:01.15 | Twiun | mickeyl: but I'd rather spend time tweaking a solution than writing one from scratch |
| 23:01.30 | Twiun | mickeyl: and even better if I can give it to my web designer without tweaking |
| 23:01.32 | mickeyl | Twiun: yes.... if the times are really comparable |
| 23:01.50 | Twiun | mickeyl: true, it's a time/effort compromise |
| 23:04.12 | kergoth | argh. |
| 23:04.14 | kergoth | hmmmm |
| 23:04.19 | kergoth | what am i missing. |
| 23:04.29 | kergoth | its gotta be something simple |
| 23:05.09 | W8TVI | Did you guys use the ipk creator of jeode and opera b4 upgrading to Oz? |
| 23:06.30 | *** join/#openembedded LordVan|Mobile (~lordvan@62.218.218.165) |
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| 23:07.24 | *** join/#openembedded fishy (fishy@adsl-81-164-82.asm.bellsouth.net) |
| 23:07.44 | kergoth | ahhhh |
| 23:07.48 | kergoth | what the fuck is going on here |
| 23:08.33 | Neo|Work | something fishy |
| 23:09.01 | Twiun | hopefully not at work |
| 23:09.36 | Twiun | W8TVI: nope - don't use Opera on OZ and Sharp's 3.10 ROM has an application zip which includes a jeode ipk |
| 23:09.49 | fishy | something fishy eh? |
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| 23:10.10 | Neo|Work | fishy: indeed. Now it talks too |
| 23:10.16 | Neo|Work | :) |
| 23:10.30 | *** join/#openembedded _fishy (~fishy@cae532e54542.ssl.walledcity.de) |
| 23:11.42 | W8TVI | Twiun: what browser do you use? and does it work better than opera? |
| 23:12.03 | Neo|Work | fishy: indeed. and now it talks too |
| 23:12.07 | Neo|Work | in case you missed that |
| 23:12.09 | Neo|Work | :) |
| 23:12.24 | Neo|Work | btw, I completely failed to "remotely" launch embedded konq with a specified URL |
| 23:12.31 | _fishy | wtf |
| 23:13.20 | Neo|Work | TLA! |
| 23:13.37 | Twiun | W8TVI: My Z isn't connected to the web, so no web browser |
| 23:14.09 | Twiun | konq/e's command line support is severly crippled |
| 23:14.19 | Twiun | configuration oops? |
| 23:20.58 | W8TVI | Flashing to OZ rom :) |
| 23:22.21 | W8TVI | Its not easy to pres those 3 keys all at once! |
| 23:22.30 | W8TVI | But I guess thats the udea |
| 23:22.33 | W8TVI | Idea |
| 23:22.34 | W8TVI | Lol |
| 23:23.06 | W8TVI | The lights want off, press the fullreser buttont now? |
| 23:23.13 | W8TVI | Want = went |
| 23:23.16 | kergoth | yes |
| 23:23.18 | kergoth | #openzaurus |
| 23:23.43 | *** join/#openembedded ljp_laptop (~ljp@tq0110.peakpeak.com) |
| 23:23.43 | kergoth | this channel is for developer discussion and offtopic BS, not user support |
| 23:24.08 | ljp_laptop | dratsab |
| 23:24.17 | kergoth | dratsab |
| 23:24.18 | ljp_laptop | ts hates me |
| 23:24.23 | kergoth | nand flash hates me |
| 23:24.25 | ljp_laptop | hates me! |
| 23:24.34 | W8TVI | Well.. when I asked a question in ther before no one answered... and I knew that you were here |
| 23:24.36 | ljp_laptop | so I flashed tkc rom |
| 23:24.40 | W8TVI | Thanks kergoth |
| 23:26.05 | kergoth | jeeze, doing a nanddump of mtd1 takes a long fucking time |
| 23:26.50 | ljp_laptop | I am really wondering why ts isnt working. |
| 23:27.21 | ljp_laptop | I wonder if qtopia needs-a-fixin' |
| 23:28.38 | ljp_laptop | hmmmpft |
| 23:31.43 | Neo|Work | we all know Qtopia sux0rs!!! ;-) |
| 23:31.59 | ljp_laptop | \hmm |
| 23:32.17 | ljp_laptop | more like the rom guy thats trying it sux0rs |
| 23:33.51 | ljp_laptop | hmm, maybe time for tempest game |
| 23:34.43 | kergoth | I need to time the next nanddump i do |
| 23:42.51 | kergoth | bbl |