| 00:00.44 | Twiun | hrmph |
| 00:00.49 | mickeyl | ? |
| 00:00.51 | Twiun | apmd wasn't the culprit |
| 00:01.01 | Twiun | bloody lcd still switches off |
| 00:01.11 | mickeyl | hmm... IIRC this is built in the kernel |
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| 00:01.18 | mickeyl | you can switch it off |
| 00:01.24 | Twiun | already switched off the LCD_BLANK config |
| 00:01.28 | mickeyl | oh you did? |
| 00:01.31 | Twiun | yah |
| 00:01.33 | mickeyl | hmm.... |
| 00:01.39 | mickeyl | strange then |
| 00:01.47 | Twiun | with it on, the green led blinks, with it off, no green led blinking |
| 00:02.01 | Twiun | and off, it seems to take longer to switch the lcd off |
| 00:02.13 | mickeyl | what processes are you running |
| 00:02.14 | mickeyl | ? |
| 00:02.32 | Twiun | kernel or non? |
| 00:02.47 | mickeyl | all |
| 00:02.48 | mickeyl | ps -ef |
| 00:03.02 | Twiun | lemme ssh in |
| 00:03.58 | Twiun | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:03.58 | Twiun | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:03.58 | Twiun | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:04.08 | Twiun | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:04.19 | Twiun | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.22 | Twiun | everything else is sh/sshd/ps |
| 00:04.30 | mickeyl | try setterm -blank 0 |
| 00:04.49 | Twiun | no such file or dir |
| 00:05.30 | mickeyl | hmm... pity. that's how it works on a full-fledged linux console |
| 00:05.41 | mickeyl | it's in the linux terminal code |
| 00:05.47 | Twiun | right |
| 00:06.55 | killefiz | mickeyl: works now - thanks for your patience |
| 00:07.04 | mickeyl | glad |
| 00:07.27 | mickeyl | touchscreen calibration with tslib did work in opie or did you have to use tslib-calibrate? |
| 00:07.57 | killefiz | worked under opie |
| 00:08.02 | mickeyl | very good. |
| 00:08.11 | mickeyl | switches now also work? |
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| 00:08.41 | killefiz | yes - the simpad now has everything i wanted it for |
| 00:09.08 | mickeyl | well... for me there are a few showstoppers left |
| 00:09.35 | mickeyl | sound and microphone is not working properly yet, battery reading, etc. |
| 00:09.38 | killefiz | right - it's not ready for prime time |
| 00:09.42 | mickeyl | but we'll come to that |
| 00:09.46 | killefiz | but wireless browsing works ;) |
| 00:09.51 | mickeyl | cool |
| 00:10.07 | mickeyl | if we are to fix the suspend/resume issues we can release the image. |
| 00:10.18 | mickeyl | if we have even |
| 00:11.25 | mickeyl | Twiun: hmm... setterm belongs to util-linux |
| 00:11.43 | mickeyl | you might want to check if that's in, if not we should add util-linux-setterm to buildroot |
| 00:12.22 | Twiun | mickeyl: ah, no, it wasn't in the image |
| 00:12.29 | mickeyl | we already have a bunch of other util-linux subpackages built |
| 00:12.29 | killefiz | the switches need a repeat function |
| 00:12.49 | mickeyl | killefiz: right |
| 00:13.07 | mickeyl | not a big deal ... |
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| 00:14.18 | mickeyl | killefiz: i suspect they don't work nicely with rotation yet |
| 00:14.35 | mickeyl | also rotation goes in the wrong direction hehe |
| 00:14.38 | mickeyl | will have to change that |
| 00:15.03 | killefiz | hmm - is the direction really wrong? |
| 00:15.25 | mickeyl | killefiz: no idea... but for reading a book i'd rather have the switches below the display not above them |
| 00:15.28 | mickeyl | what do you think? |
| 00:15.52 | killefiz | i'd leave it as it is now - pcmcia slot pointing to the right |
| 00:16.10 | mickeyl | yes? |
| 00:16.31 | mickeyl | hmm... we'll make a vote on that :) |
| 00:17.03 | killefiz | one can use the switches with the right thumb then |
| 00:17.41 | mickeyl | well... best would be to have this customizable |
| 00:18.04 | killefiz | of course |
| 00:19.04 | mickeyl | aah |
| 00:19.14 | mickeyl | now i see why autorepeat is not working |
| 00:19.19 | mickeyl | damn |
| 00:19.22 | mickeyl | will take a bit of work |
| 00:19.29 | mickeyl | but i will do |
| 00:19.41 | killefiz | so it was too easy ;) |
| 00:20.34 | mickeyl | g'night |
| 00:21.14 | Twiun | cya killefiz |
| 00:21.38 | mickeyl | looks like a cut'n'paste job hehe |
| 00:26.08 | mickeyl | Twiun: d'oh. util-linux-setterm already is in buildroot. should be in a feed so |
| 00:27.23 | Twiun | mickeyl: I had just left it out of the image :) |
| 00:27.38 | mickeyl | install it afterwards ? |
| 00:27.41 | Twiun | mickeyl: whilst trying to remove everything I didn't need |
| 00:27.45 | mickeyl | oh |
| 00:27.48 | Twiun | nah, just added it and reflash :) |
| 00:27.52 | mickeyl | hehe good |
| 00:28.19 | Twiun | I should keep track of how many flashes I do :) |
| 00:28.45 | mickeyl | Nah - don't make yourself nervous :) |
| 00:30.34 | Twiun | I'll code a counter in the fbcon code... "999972 flashes left" |
| 00:30.41 | Twiun | in the upper right corner :) |
| 00:31.05 | Twiun | was it 1m or 100k max flashes? |
| 00:31.31 | mickeyl | about 100k iirc |
| 00:32.28 | Twiun | so... "99972 flashes left" |
| 00:32.39 | Twiun | 71.... 70.... 69... |
| 00:32.43 | mickeyl | :) |
| 00:33.18 | Twiun | ok, testing setterm :) |
| 00:33.36 | Twiun | now to read keyboard.c - see if I can finally make sense of this issue |
| 00:40.27 | Twiun | setterm seems to be working :) |
| 00:40.32 | mickeyl | good |
| 00:40.58 | Twiun | keyboard.c wasn't such an interesting read - I still don't know what to modify to change the console keyboard behaviour |
| 00:41.19 | Twiun | and defkeymap.map is... erm... uninformative |
| 00:46.17 | mickeyl | fbcon.c should more informative |
| 00:46.34 | mickeyl | as the distributions are patching these (and maybe something else) to get that behaviour |
| 00:47.20 | mickeyl | but that's no problem - we can patch our kernel also :) |
| 00:47.25 | Twiun | lol |
| 00:47.35 | Twiun | I've put the logo stuff on hold for noe |
| 00:47.39 | Twiun | s/noe/now/ |
| 00:47.56 | Twiun | trying to figure out why the menu button behaves like the power button |
| 00:48.15 | mickeyl | ok, but if you ever try to make that logo stuff i have the link |
| 00:48.21 | mickeyl | http://www.bootsplash.org |
| 00:48.27 | Twiun | thanks :) |
| 00:48.30 | mickeyl | there is everything you need |
| 00:48.31 | Twiun | I'll bookmark that |
| 00:48.31 | mickeyl | :) |
| 00:49.11 | mickeyl | since that is so cool i might try it first on the simpad which has the right display size for that fun stuff :-D |
| 00:49.27 | mickeyl | not that i should do more serious stuff first... |
| 00:49.29 | mickeyl | :D |
| 00:50.11 | Twiun | hehehe |
| 00:50.36 | Twiun | it definately would be _very_ cool |
| 00:50.52 | mickeyl | what do you like more? verbose or standard look? |
| 00:51.00 | mickeyl | verbose or silent event |
| 00:51.01 | mickeyl | even |
| 00:51.16 | Twiun | hmmm. silent, but with progress |
| 00:51.22 | mickeyl | yup |
| 00:51.23 | mickeyl | me too |
| 00:51.42 | Twiun | if I want verbose, I'm happy to go that extra length to enable it |
| 01:02.33 | chouimat|cooking | ? |
| 01:02.56 | Twiun | chouimat|cooking: www.bootsplash.org |
| 01:03.17 | Twiun | right, I'd best be off to bed... g'night guys |
| 01:04.59 | mickeyl | treke: still here? |
| 01:11.07 | chouimat|cooking | bye mickeyl|away |
| 01:13.17 | ljp_laptop | hmm |
| 01:17.32 | sonix` | hmm |
| 01:17.58 | sonix` | how can I install linux on a computer that doesnt have a cdrom or floppy drive |
| 01:18.02 | sonix` | it has windaz on it righ tnow tho |
| 01:18.06 | sonix` | ideas? |
| 01:18.08 | sonix` | anyone? |
| 01:19.03 | ljp_laptop | network? |
| 01:19.23 | ljp_laptop | shove a drive in it that has linux on it |
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| 01:22.39 | Umaro | hmm.. can't get to myzaurus.com. too bad. |
| 01:23.21 | chouimat|eat | mmmmm that breaded salmon is great |
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| 01:43.30 | ljp_laptop | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 01:43.34 | chouimat|tv | ljp_laptop: ? |
| 01:43.52 | treke|home | mickeyl|away: I am now |
| 01:44.05 | treke|home | ljp_laptop: start living on aussie time |
| 01:44.18 | chouimat|tv | fuck! my cat is on the stove eating the salmon left over .... here goes my tomorrow lunch |
| 01:44.19 | treke|home | I believe this is the time of the day they call "get wasted time" |
| 01:44.32 | treke|home | chouimat|tv: two words. |
| 01:44.35 | treke|home | chouimat|tv: roast cat |
| 01:44.52 | chouimat|tv | treke|home: nah! |
| 01:45.34 | chouimat|tv | treke|home: no more fish here |
| 01:46.02 | ljp_laptop | hahahahahaaa |
| 01:46.19 | chouimat|tv | he's two rooms away and I'm hearing him purring |
| 01:46.25 | ljp_laptop | I was zzz'ing cause this dl is taking forever on this modem |
| 01:46.33 | ljp_laptop | hehehehe |
| 01:48.09 | chouimat|tv | ljp_laptop: yup get DSL |
| 01:48.25 | ljp_laptop | oh ya |
| 01:48.44 | ljp_laptop | if I ever get there |
| 01:49.16 | ljp_laptop | 'sorry you cant work here, cause you once owned a 1957 chevy bus' |
| 01:50.14 | chouimat|tv | ljp_laptop: you don't have a criminal record? |
| 01:50.38 | ljp_laptop | nope |
| 01:50.51 | chouimat|tv | ljp_laptop: that will take time but you will have it |
| 01:51.06 | chouimat|tv | just like this download take time :) |
| 01:51.10 | ljp_laptop | i want to go NOW |
| 01:51.32 | ljp_laptop | i need to get a tan before I start working! |
| 01:52.02 | ljp_laptop | 'ahhh. sorry, warwick, I'm at the beach' |
| 01:52.13 | chouimat|tv | ljp_laptop: hehe |
| 01:52.14 | ljp_laptop | 'cant come in today' |
| 01:52.18 | treke|home | <ljp_laptop> I didnt know you still needed one |
| 01:52.53 | ljp_laptop | 'but I have alaptop, cant I work from here?' |
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| 03:01.41 | sonix` | NOTICE: We repeat: Do NOT put questions which are not frequently asked (and most preferably answered) on this page. You are one person -- just because you asked it doesn't mean it's frequently asked. Use your judgemen |
| 03:01.48 | sonix` | Actually, don't use your judgement. It's probably wrong. Be certain that you know you are submitting this to a faq system and not a support forum. If you don't understand something, you don't qualify. |
| 03:02.26 | Speedy2 | Ok, thanks for the warning. |
| 03:03.20 | treke|home | we really do appreciate it |
| 03:03.22 | treke|home | honest |
| 03:04.58 | chouimat | this warning is from? |
| 03:05.08 | sonix` | http://openzaurus.org/oz_website/faq/submit?module=faq&action=edit |
| 03:05.46 | treke|home | and your point was? |
| 03:05.59 | sonix` | who's point? |
| 03:06.01 | sonix` | :p |
| 03:06.07 | treke|home | I thought so |
| 03:06.12 | chouimat | treke|home: me? or sonix`? |
| 03:06.33 | treke|home | sonix |
| 03:06.40 | sonix` | treke |
| 03:10.23 | treke|home | cool |
| 03:10.51 | treke|home | so now you can autologin to opie, hit the logout button, and get a login prompt |
| 03:10.56 | treke|home | instead of autologging in again |
| 03:11.38 | treke|home | or maybe not |
| 03:11.51 | sonix` | O.o |
| 03:21.51 | treke|home | shit |
| 03:22.24 | treke|home | apparently killing qpe and logout out are the same |
| 03:23.14 | treke|home | nm. I had an assignment I should have had |
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| 03:54.05 | absentiaS | re |
| 03:54.51 | absentiaS | ok, just lobotomized my freebsd laptop to put more mem into the winderz so I can run virt pc to run a debian to buildroot. |
| 03:55.44 | absentiaS | I use |
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| 04:14.25 | chouimat|Zzzzz | night |
| 04:14.33 | treke|home | night |
| 04:14.56 | chouimat|Zzzzz | treke|home: fixed autologin? |
| 04:15.05 | treke|home | actually yes. More or less |
| 04:15.23 | treke|home | anything that linux sees as a "normal" termination triggers the login prompt |
| 04:15.33 | chouimat|Zzzzz | ok ... I managed to got a DC linux and DC Kos toolchain |
| 04:15.49 | treke|home | now I need to go and clean |
| 04:15.58 | treke|home | I was going to start that first thing this morning :p |
| 04:16.21 | chouimat|Zzzzz | have fun ... I need to clean my appartment too ::) |
| 04:17.48 | chouimat|Zzzzz | treke|home: for what? |
| 04:18.18 | treke|home | apartment |
| 04:19.15 | chouimat|Zzzzz | treke|home: I had signed for one here, but since I applied to some jobs far away I don't know if I will live there or for how long |
| 04:20.28 | chouimat|Zzzzz | ok I'm off |
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| 06:01.51 | Twiun | mornin' |
| 06:01.58 | treke|home | morning |
| 06:02.16 | treke|home | nice job on the boot screen. the package count is handy |
| 06:02.22 | treke|home | to bad it does them all 3-4 times |
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| 06:04.14 | Twiun | treke|home: aye, the code's in there to remove that duplication but I need to clear it with kergoth first |
| 06:04.25 | Twiun | treke|home: as that's the default behaviour |
| 06:04.35 | treke|home | ah |
| 06:04.52 | Twiun | removing the duplication saves about 30s on average with 91 packages |
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| 06:41.15 | Speedy2 | ibot seen timriker |
| 06:41.15 | | timriker <~timr@c-67-163-110-34.client.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 4h 43m 28s ago, saying: 'cool.'. |
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| 07:43.48 | Twiun | hey zecke |
| 07:44.00 | zecke | hi Twiun |
| 07:45.28 | zecke | hi bipolar |
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| 07:56.52 | Twiun | hey killefiz |
| 07:58.49 | killefiz|simpad | hi twiun |
| 08:00.28 | Twiun | hehe |
| 08:07.53 | djr | killefiz|simpad: you run the killefiz zaurus site? |
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| 08:12.34 | Twiun | hey tmm |
| 08:14.50 | TheMasterMind1 | whats up |
| 08:15.56 | killefiz|simpad | djr: yes i do |
| 08:17.59 | djr | killefiz|simpad: cool, then thanks for the site =) |
| 08:19.38 | killefiz|simpad | you're welcome |
| 08:22.47 | killefiz | ahh - much better |
| 08:22.55 | TheMasterMind1 | hehe |
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| 09:20.30 | Twiun | is there any way of converting busybox's binary dumpkmap output to something human-readable? |
| 09:22.55 | TheMasterMind1 | hm |
| 09:22.59 | TheMasterMind1 | use a hex editor? |
| 09:24.23 | TheMasterMind1 | ouch |
| 09:24.30 | scanline | speaking of human-readable... |
| 09:24.46 | scanline | did anyone decide on an OE logo yet? :) |
| 09:25.03 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 09:25.08 | TheMasterMind1 | dunthinkso |
| 09:25.17 | scanline | that's the impression I got too |
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| 10:19.51 | mickeyl | moinmoin |
| 10:20.21 | carsten | hi |
| 10:20.28 | mickeyl | morsche carsten |
| 10:20.36 | Twiun | hey mickeyl |
| 10:20.39 | killefiz | hi mickeyl |
| 10:21.00 | carsten | in which package is the opie-start-script /etc/init.d/opie ? |
| 10:21.01 | mickeyl | hi all |
| 10:21.02 | Twiun | mickeyl: I'm getting closer... managed to get all the keys in the Z's keybad to output 'b' ;) |
| 10:21.14 | Twiun | carsten: opie-common iirc |
| 10:21.25 | heatxsink | crazy |
| 10:21.26 | mickeyl | carsten: yup, iirc Twiun is right |
| 10:21.35 | mickeyl | Twiun: hehe, that's quite an achievement :-D |
| 10:21.58 | Twiun | s/keybad/keyboard |
| 10:22.24 | carsten | mmh, strange that I can install opie-today but opie-common is not a dep of it ... |
| 10:22.41 | Twiun | bug? |
| 10:26.24 | carsten | ok, I installed more or less everyting including opie-task* and opie-common. I still don't have the opie-start-skript.... |
| 10:27.04 | mickeyl | lemme check |
| 10:27.54 | mickeyl | carsten: it belongs to opie-taskbar |
| 10:29.11 | carsten | thanks :) |
| 10:29.12 | carsten | works now |
| 10:35.48 | mickeyl|flash | unbelievable... it's booting... |
| 10:35.51 | yeiazel | :) |
| 10:36.14 | mickeyl|flash | a kernel panic would have surprised me less given what i had to do to get the patch applied |
| 10:37.37 | yeiazel | now, the question is... do you see any difference (is it faster ?) with the patch ? |
| 10:37.47 | mickeyl|flash | waiting to boot opie.... |
| 10:37.52 | yeiazel | haha, ok :) |
| 10:37.59 | mickeyl|flash | still in progress... |
| 10:38.01 | mickeyl|flash | ah |
| 10:39.01 | mickeyl|flash | damn |
| 10:39.15 | mickeyl|flash | it was impressive for 5 seconds |
| 10:39.16 | mickeyl|flash | then |
| 10:39.18 | mickeyl|flash | boom |
| 10:39.30 | mickeyl|flash | feelt smooth |
| 10:39.32 | mickeyl|flash | but crashed |
| 10:41.16 | yeiazel | :) |
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| 10:44.02 | yeiazel | on your Z ? :) |
| 10:44.10 | scanline | hehe, nope |
| 10:44.18 | Twiun | hey pb_ |
| 10:44.28 | scanline | on my Athlon XP with two 19" monitors connected to a 0.5TB RAID |
| 10:44.34 | yeiazel | :) |
| 10:44.42 | pb_ | Twiun: morning |
| 10:48.20 | heatxsink | crazy scanline |
| 10:48.26 | heatxsink | how ya been scanline? |
| 10:48.32 | scanline | ah, I'm doin fine |
| 10:48.39 | scanline | working on my new build system :) |
| 10:48.45 | heatxsink | sweet |
| 10:49.13 | scanline | it's a layer on top of SCons that handles package downloading and configuration |
| 10:49.24 | heatxsink | I've been distracted by this new bluetooth xmms plugin i've been screwing with... |
| 10:49.32 | heatxsink | cool |
| 10:49.33 | scanline | bluetooth xmms? |
| 10:49.36 | scanline | yikes |
| 10:49.36 | heatxsink | yes |
| 10:49.47 | heatxsink | many people have tried...... |
| 10:49.49 | heatxsink | but.... |
| 10:50.05 | heatxsink | I saw how Apple used bluetooth to control iTunes |
| 10:50.09 | heatxsink | and I have to have it like that... |
| 10:50.16 | heatxsink | so |
| 10:50.16 | Twiun | the collie keymapping is screwed |
| 10:50.21 | heatxsink | I'm almost there.. |
| 10:50.40 | killefiz | heatxsink: including an opie-app as a remote? |
| 10:51.04 | heatxsink | killefiz: the idea is....when I can get the xmms...stuff going..then I can approach my Z and start that sucker up |
| 10:51.25 | heatxsink | killefiz: but I have been stuck trying to complie build-root |
| 10:51.30 | heatxsink | it just won't work on my machine |
| 10:51.40 | killefiz | heatxsink: sounds neat - but why xmms? The downside is that it needs X |
| 10:51.41 | yeiazel | s/fronted/frontend/ |
| 10:51.57 | heatxsink | killefiz: I've always wanted to make a plugin... |
| 10:52.01 | killefiz | ;) |
| 10:52.11 | heatxsink | killefiz: getting it out of my system now! |
| 10:52.12 | scanline | xmms visualization plugins are fun to write =) |
| 10:52.22 | heatxsink | scanline: it seems like it |
| 10:52.31 | killefiz | i'm trying juk right now - but it seems to take a while to import 13000 mp3s |
| 10:52.32 | mickeyl | killefiz: ever tried how far you can get with the simpad's ir transmitter? I heard its pretty strong compared to the Z and iPAQ... |
| 10:52.55 | mickeyl | simpad would make a luxury remote control for my audio/video system :-D |
| 10:53.00 | Twiun | anyone know why although I got the menu key map to say "space", it prints spaces (autorepeat) until eventually, the Z switches off. Because for some bizarre reason, menu-press-and-hold mimics the power button |
| 10:53.05 | heatxsink | probably cause they didn't restrict the power on the simpad |
| 10:53.05 | killefiz | mickeyl: no - i tried installing opie-remote but as there is no lirc package that failed |
| 10:53.19 | killefiz | btw: opera6 runs fine on simpad! |
| 10:53.24 | heatxsink | it's like what they did with the Palm's IR |
| 10:53.25 | mickeyl | does it ? cool |
| 10:54.24 | heatxsink | they use a chip that has the capability to go great distances..but for operating purposes they restrict it |
| 10:54.37 | killefiz | and it's greets you with "Welcome to Sharp PDA World" ;) |
| 10:54.41 | heatxsink | cause of the power consumption... |
| 10:54.43 | heatxsink | cray |
| 10:54.44 | heatxsink | crazyu |
| 10:54.51 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 10:54.56 | killefiz | does opie-remote work on Z? |
| 10:55.13 | mickeyl | never tried |
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| 11:03.15 | killefiz | mickeyl: i hate you - i have to try getting lirc to work now ;) |
| 11:03.39 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 11:03.53 | mickeyl | please do - i'm interested in that |
| 11:04.02 | mickeyl | couldn't get it to compile last time though |
| 11:04.06 | mickeyl | maybe you can |
| 11:04.41 | killefiz | it's not out of the box - lirc from buildroot tries to compile it's modules agains the kernel in /usr/src/linux |
| 11:04.50 | killefiz | but i'll fiddle with it some more |
| 11:05.01 | mickeyl | nice. please send me a bk patch if you got it |
| 11:05.14 | heatxsink | ls |
| 11:05.19 | killefiz | hehe - as if i knew how to generate a bk patch ;) |
| 11:05.55 | Twiun | this damn battery cover's redundant! |
| 11:12.54 | mickeyl | nice. now i have a getty _and_ a serial debug console. no idea how i achieved that but it works :D |
| 11:14.03 | Twiun | why is it everything works for other people, but not for me? |
| 11:14.12 | mickeyl | karma |
| 11:14.17 | mickeyl | :)) |
| 11:14.32 | heatxsink | Twiun: you're not alone! |
| 11:14.33 | heatxsink | hahaha |
| 11:14.36 | heatxsink | I can't even complie |
| 11:14.37 | heatxsink | hahah |
| 11:14.41 | joejoeMcgee | hey does anyone know a good vendor for small lcd screens like 7.5 inch and smaller |
| 11:14.41 | heatxsink | i mean compile |
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| 11:31.21 | mickeyl | a c700 user out there ? |
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| 11:34.10 | tronical | mickeyl: found time to try out prelink, yet? |
| 11:34.40 | mickeyl | no. too busy with OE on SIMpad. you? |
| 11:34.55 | tronical | not, yet :( |
| 11:35.30 | killefiz | what kind of archive are ipks? |
| 11:35.42 | mickeyl | ar |
| 11:35.54 | scanline | arrr! |
| 11:35.55 | mickeyl | tronical: do you know http://66.11.168.23/~tushar/hints/prelink.txt |
| 11:36.13 | heatxsink[zzz] | killefiz: they are tar.gz's |
| 11:36.26 | mickeyl | no |
| 11:36.31 | mickeyl | older ones are tar |
| 11:36.35 | mickeyl | newer ones are ar |
| 11:36.41 | heatxsink[zzz] | there's my knowledge..hahaha |
| 11:36.50 | heatxsink[zzz] | "ar"? |
| 11:37.16 | mickeyl | yes. |
| 11:37.17 | mickeyl | man ar |
| 11:37.18 | tronical | mickeyl: yes, saw it a couple of days ago when I think kergoth posted the url |
| 11:37.25 | mickeyl | k |
| 11:38.52 | heatxsink[zzz] | wow |
| 11:38.53 | heatxsink[zzz] | crazy |
| 11:38.58 | heatxsink[zzz] | back to sleep now |
| 11:38.59 | heatxsink[zzz] | hahah |
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| 11:53.18 | mickeyl | morgen ! |
| 11:53.46 | mickeyl | anyone ever tried the low-latency patches on a rmk-kernel ? |
| 11:54.44 | zecke | mickeyl: preempt? |
| 11:54.51 | mickeyl | no - low-latency |
| 11:54.51 | zecke | mickeyl: yupp liquid felt really smooth |
| 11:54.54 | mickeyl | preempt is another story |
| 11:55.21 | zecke | mickeyl: I think nobody tested it then |
| 11:55.29 | mickeyl | hmm... I was afraid of that |
| 11:55.45 | mickeyl | preempt crashed here because it doesn't play well with rmk7 |
| 11:56.00 | mickeyl | i want to try low-latency now, but have no idea if that supports arm |
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| 12:03.56 | killefiz | mickeyl: ir works well - 6m distance is no problem |
| 12:04.40 | mickeyl | killefiz: great! |
| 12:04.45 | mickeyl | killefiz: how did you got it to compile? |
| 12:05.15 | killefiz | the lirc-package in buildroot is zaurus only. 2.4.6-xxx kernel is hardcoded |
| 12:05.24 | killefiz | i changed that to 2.4.19-rmkxxx (hard) |
| 12:05.28 | mickeyl | aah |
| 12:05.34 | killefiz | then there is a /dev/lirc missing |
| 12:05.52 | mickeyl | mknod ? |
| 12:05.54 | killefiz | (i added it with mknod - not sure what to do to make it available the "proper" way) |
| 12:06.00 | mickeyl | which major/minor ? |
| 12:06.10 | killefiz | c 61 0 |
| 12:06.37 | killefiz | and: buildroot compiles a kernelmodule - but it strips it |
| 12:07.45 | mickeyl | which file is that 2.4.6 hardcoded in ? |
| 12:07.48 | killefiz | oh - almost forgot: in buildroot lirc depends on kernel-modules - i don't know why but it's not very clever |
| 12:07.52 | killefiz | mickeyl: Makefile |
| 12:08.02 | killefiz | i only changed Packages/lirc/Makefile |
| 12:09.20 | mickeyl | you mean in $(stamp-rootinstall) ? |
| 12:09.47 | mickeyl | mmh... too much hardcoded stuff in there |
| 12:10.04 | killefiz | yes there are two in there and one in the configure line above that |
| 12:14.05 | mickeyl | done |
| 12:14.45 | killefiz | mickeyl: there is a script zremote that is installed to /usr/bin/zremote and starts the lircd but i cannot figure out when it is supposed to be called - right now you have to start lircd manually |
| 12:15.07 | mickeyl | ok. we will have to add the device in postinst maybe |
| 12:15.24 | mickeyl | eeek |
| 12:15.29 | killefiz | mickeyl: but then it's gone after a reboot, no? |
| 12:15.31 | mickeyl | load_module() |
| 12:15.31 | mickeyl | { |
| 12:15.32 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:15.32 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:15.32 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:15.32 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:15.34 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:15.36 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:15.38 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:15.40 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:15.42 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:15.44 | mickeyl | more hardcoded stuff |
| 12:15.46 | mickeyl | tssss |
| 12:17.43 | killefiz | ok - it's supposed to be called when you want to use the remote |
| 12:17.55 | mickeyl | insmod is also ugly |
| 12:17.59 | mickeyl | modprobe rulez |
| 12:18.00 | mickeyl | :) |
| 12:18.56 | killefiz | i think zremote_gui should be removed - opie-remote is much better |
| 12:20.40 | killefiz | hmm lirc depends on opie - i don't see a reason why it should |
| 12:20.50 | killefiz | how to find out who is responsible for that package? |
| 12:21.02 | tronical | .forward certainly doesn't work anymore ;( |
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| 12:24.28 | joejoeMcgee | do you guys think a strongarm can handel divx playback? |
| 12:24.54 | zecke | tronical: since when is .forward not working? |
| 12:25.04 | zecke | tronical: mail the admins ;) |
| 12:25.48 | tronical | zecke: my .forward points to simon@lst.de but I get opie-devel@hh.org mails to my @kde.org account with Delivered-To: simon@hh.org |
| 12:25.48 | mickeyl | joejoeMcgee: ipkg install opie-mediaplayer2 :-D |
| 12:26.18 | ljp_laptop | ooh new ofileselector? |
| 12:26.41 | zecke | ljp_laptop: bugfix from 1300 lines to roughly 700 |
| 12:27.00 | zecke | ljp_laptop: and it could be used inside the launcher |
| 12:27.05 | zecke | ljp_laptop: and has support for views |
| 12:28.39 | ljp_laptop | nice. I'll check it out today |
| 12:28.47 | ljp_laptop | :D |
| 12:29.44 | joejoeMcgee | do you guys just mostly work with pda's or are any of you guys working with embedded SBCs |
| 12:31.07 | ljp_laptop | sbc? |
| 12:31.44 | yeiazel | sbc ? |
| 12:32.13 | mickeyl | sbc ? |
| 12:32.30 | scanline | heh |
| 12:32.35 | ljp_laptop | Sound Backing Controller? |
| 12:33.22 | ljp_laptop | Sucky Bitmap Confusion? |
| 12:33.30 | mickeyl | Sophisticated Broadcast Chicks |
| 12:33.36 | ljp_laptop | hehehe |
| 12:34.25 | yeiazel | Sucking Bitch Crowd |
| 12:34.28 | yeiazel | Sucking Bitches Crowd |
| 12:34.29 | yeiazel | :) |
| 12:35.43 | ljp_laptop | Scrunti Boot Conflaguration |
| 12:35.45 | joejoeMcgee | single board computer |
| 12:35.50 | ljp_laptop | ohhhhhhh |
| 12:36.08 | yeiazel | :) |
| 12:36.11 | ljp_laptop | send us hardware and we will |
| 12:36.22 | joejoeMcgee | opie's media player looks like it only does us mpeg |
| 12:36.38 | ljp_laptop | theres plugins |
| 12:36.41 | joejoeMcgee | well i think im building one, i just got a dev kit |
| 12:37.01 | ljp_laptop | opieplayer does tremor (vorbis), wav, mp2, mpeg, mod |
| 12:37.37 | ljp_laptop | oe was devised for any platform, I think |
| 12:38.06 | ljp_laptop | opie might need to be patched for specific device |
| 12:38.42 | joejoeMcgee | are you guys running opie on top of debian? |
| 12:39.17 | zecke | joejoeMcgee: developing at least... |
| 12:40.05 | ljp_laptop | I run opie on mandrake ;) |
| 12:40.17 | mickeyl | hey, me too ljp |
| 12:40.51 | ljp_laptop | and gentoo |
| 12:41.44 | ljp_laptop | someone emaile dme about doing midi alarms |
| 12:42.09 | ljp_laptop | too bad there is no midi device on my z |
| 12:42.42 | ljp_laptop | could use timidity, but I think it defeats the purpose of midi |
| 12:44.24 | zecke | ljp_laptop: can't we just use wav ;) |
| 12:44.29 | zecke | ljp_laptop: as you replyied |
| 12:44.54 | mickeyl | ljp_laptop: we could integrated a minimal modplayer in osoundserver - this is pretty small and much better than just playing wav |
| 12:45.43 | ljp_laptop | problem with mod files, is there are several different kinds |
| 12:46.35 | ljp_laptop | uncompressed wavs are easy to shove through the device |
| 12:47.12 | zecke | mickeyl: osoundserver == LSD |
| 12:47.19 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 12:47.21 | joejoeMcgee | hehe |
| 12:47.43 | zecke | no kidding sandman started with LSD long time ago |
| 12:47.54 | mickeyl | where is the code? |
| 12:48.03 | zecke | mickeyl: ask him |
| 12:48.07 | mickeyl | haha |
| 12:48.11 | mickeyl | he is pretty much unavailable |
| 12:48.20 | zecke | mickeyl: he still replies to emails |
| 12:48.22 | joejoeMcgee | im so excited im getting a strong arm sbc and im going to attempt to build a portable media jukebox/ personal server |
| 12:48.38 | mickeyl | zecke: do you know why he's no longer with opie? |
| 12:49.09 | zecke | mickeyl: Ich glaub' seine Firma hat ihn irgendwo hin ausgeliehen |
| 12:49.29 | mickeyl | pity for us |
| 12:49.43 | zecke | mickeyl: will mail him again |
| 12:49.53 | mickeyl | good. greet him |
| 12:50.21 | ljp_laptop | ya, tell him he needs to get back to work with opie and quite fooling around with that chick! |
| 12:50.31 | ljp_laptop | quit |
| 12:50.50 | zecke | tronical: how does it come that konq/e is still not smaller than 500k with safari merged? ;) |
| 12:51.02 | zecke | ljp_laptop: that chick is the reason why he wouldn't work for TT |
| 12:51.13 | tronical | zecke: because there is no safari code merged :) |
| 12:51.19 | tronical | zecke: that's only in HEAD |
| 12:51.43 | zecke | tronical: kleine Anstachelung.. :) |
| 12:51.52 | tronical | ah :) |
| 12:52.10 | ljp_laptop | I know |
| 12:55.36 | ljp_laptop | oh well. If I had one of those, I;d be less visible also ;) |
| 13:01.12 | killefiz | mickeyl: have you finished the lirc changes? |
| 13:04.51 | mickeyl | should build now and the zremote script should work |
| 13:06.08 | killefiz | another thing is that the module should probably be in a seperate ipk? |
| 13:06.44 | killefiz | because it depends on the kernel |
| 13:06.50 | mickeyl | yes - should be splitted |
| 13:12.08 | ljp_laptop | I wish firebird's font selection didnt suck |
| 13:15.39 | mickeyl | firebird is what again? |
| 13:15.52 | mickeyl | damn. low-level-patches also conflict with rmk7. grrrr |
| 13:16.47 | zecke | mickeyl: that shiny new gecko browser |
| 13:16.52 | mickeyl | ahok |
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| 14:19.39 | ljp_laptop | ~lart usb |
| 14:20.43 | tronical | zecke_: hmm, ah, is it likely to be a problem with the usb hardware controller on the desktop side? (problem == complete link instability) |
| 14:21.50 | zecke_ | tronical: ohci vs uhci |
| 14:22.12 | zecke_ | I switched and now usbnet + usbdnet are rock solid for over 8 month now |
| 14:22.43 | zecke_ | I'm using uhci |
| 14:23.41 | tronical | hm, my /proc/bus/usb/drivers talks about uhci-alt and ehci-hcd . any idea what that means? :) |
| 14:24.24 | zecke_ | ehci is the alternative one |
| 14:24.43 | zecke_ | iirc |
| 14:24.51 | tronical | ok, which one is 'good' and which one sucks? :) |
| 14:25.15 | zecke_ | I use uhci and it works ( Intel hardware ) |
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| 15:55.24 | absentiaS | ouch |
| 15:59.05 | treke|home | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:02.19 | mickeyl|steuer | treke: low-latency and preemptible patches don't like rmk7... did you succeed in either one? |
| 16:02.31 | treke|home | Not tried rmk7 |
| 16:02.55 | mickeyl|steuer | what is openIpaq currently using? |
| 16:02.56 | treke|home | I've applied it to rmk6-pxa1-hh12, which needed a slight bit of patching |
| 16:03.27 | chouimat | hi |
| 16:03.32 | treke|home | you can try my patched version, it might work |
| 16:03.53 | mickeyl|steuer | yeah. where can i get it? |
| 16:03.56 | treke|home | http://ring.brooks.edu/~ggilbert/oz-ipaq/preempt-2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh12-rml2.patch.gz |
| 16:03.56 | mickeyl|steuer | from |
| 16:04.13 | treke|home | a label was renamed, so it stopped applying |
| 16:04.16 | mickeyl|steuer | note that i want to apply it to plain rmk7 - without pxa1 _and_ hh12 |
| 16:04.27 | mickeyl|steuer | do_IRQ ==> asm_do_IRQ ? |
| 16:04.32 | treke|home | yup |
| 16:04.50 | mickeyl|steuer | k. I've seen that too - applied it to rmk7 with some patching but got kernel oopses |
| 16:04.54 | mickeyl|steuer | (SIMpad here) |
| 16:05.38 | treke|home | that is all that I've changed in that patch. I havent noticed any oopses though |
| 16:12.03 | SuKoShi | hi |
| 16:16.51 | treke|home | ah cool. that fixes icons not appearing |
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| 17:07.19 | ljp_laptop | http://www.llornkcor.com/screenshots/docs.png |
| 17:07.58 | chouimat | ljp_laptop: ? |
| 17:08.30 | treke|home | ljp_laptop: I love you |
| 17:08.35 | treke|home | oh so pretty |
| 17:08.47 | ljp_laptop | oh thats the old fileselector.. |
| 17:10.55 | ljp_laptop | doesnt work quite yet. |
| 17:11.05 | ljp_laptop | but no scanning |
| 17:11.14 | treke|home | it is still pretty |
| 17:11.17 | chouimat | ljp_laptop: that better than nothing |
| 17:11.41 | ljp_laptop | I have to co 0_99 branch |
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| 17:13.24 | chouimat | ljp_laptop: and on you fast linkk that will take eternity |
| 17:14.17 | ljp_laptop | :) cvs -z9 helps |
| 17:33.37 | chouimat | mickeyl: steuer? |
| 17:33.52 | treke|home | store? |
| 17:34.06 | mickeyl | steuer == tax |
| 17:34.12 | treke|home | ah |
| 17:34.17 | mickeyl | every year i must declare income and stuff |
| 17:34.22 | mickeyl | to get some money back |
| 17:34.26 | chouimat | mickeyl: ok that I was wondering if you were driving :) |
| 17:34.31 | mickeyl | ah hehe |
| 17:34.34 | mickeyl | yeah, same name |
| 17:34.41 | treke|home | mickeyl: lucky bastard :) |
| 17:34.58 | mickeyl | well... actually its only a few bucks... :) |
| 17:35.24 | treke|home | mickeyl: its better than having to declare income and stuff to have to pay more :) |
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| 17:38.03 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 17:38.16 | zecke_ | hi mickeyl |
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| 17:38.45 | chouimat | hi zecke_ |
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| 18:03.19 | ljp_laptop_ | http://www.llornkcor.com/screenshots/docs2.png |
| 18:05.18 | djr | 404 |
| 18:06.08 | TheMasterMind1 | 405 |
| 18:07.12 | ljp_laptop_ | try again |
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| 18:10.15 | chouimat|reading | ljp_laptop: ? |
| 18:11.28 | ljp_laptop_ | docs tab |
| 18:13.46 | chouimat|reading | http://www.cxd3.com//tut/cpp/rev/dec.html |
| 18:15.48 | djr | ljp_laptop_: replacement docs page? |
| 18:16.28 | ljp_laptop_ | yes |
| 18:16.32 | djr | how do you know how to categorize files in the documents? i just put them in the documents directory... but i know things save files in image/png/something.png or so on |
| 18:17.38 | ljp_laptop_ | doclnk files |
| 18:17.50 | ljp_laptop_ | those .desktop files |
| 18:18.09 | djr | hmm ok |
| 18:18.16 | djr | chouimat|reading: looks like a pdf converted to html, hehe |
| 18:21.05 | chouimat|reading | djr: up |
| 18:21.10 | chouimat|reading | s/up/yup |
| 18:22.36 | ljp_laptop_ | interesting |
| 18:28.57 | djr | chouimat|reading: kinda makes me want to do some more assembly... i do mips and x86 assembly for work |
| 18:29.00 | djr | hehe |
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| 18:29.45 | noda | Moo! |
| 18:30.36 | chouimat|reading | djr: the article is quite interessting |
| 18:36.38 | noda | Sheesh. I leave for less than 48 hours and 69 junk mails to *one* of my email accounts. No fun :) |
| 18:36.48 | chouimat|reading | noda: hehe |
| 18:39.05 | djr | i use postfix+courierimap+spamassassin+procmail... its good at stopping spam... really good... i pretty much only get a couple a day now that slip through... before i was getting over 200 a day |
| 18:39.10 | djr | hehe |
| 18:39.33 | noda | I'm using Mozilla's Bayesian filter. It missed 6 total, on this account and another that had about 20. |
| 18:39.38 | noda | No false positives. |
| 18:42.37 | chouimat|reading | spamassassin misses a lot here |
| 18:43.02 | noda | I've seen a couple of false positives, too. Nothing with a score above 10 though... but that means missing a lot of spam. |
| 18:44.27 | chouimat|reading | I think I will reconfigure it |
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| 19:04.22 | treke|home | it misses maybe one a week, and its getting better |
| 19:04.51 | ljp_laptop_ | treke: you see the latest screenie? |
| 19:05.01 | treke|home | no |
| 19:05.54 | ljp_laptop_ | http://www.llornkcor.com/screenshots/docs2.png |
| 19:07.06 | treke|home | nice |
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| 19:08.48 | dash | anybody know of a channel on this net for nokia or symbian development? :) |
| 19:10.21 | treke|home | nope |
| 19:13.19 | mickeyl | ljp_laptop_: column headers would be useful imho for sorting |
| 19:14.46 | ljp_laptop_ | talk to zecke. thats an ofileselector |
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| 19:15.39 | treke|home | what still needs to be done? |
| 19:18.09 | ljp_laptop_ | done to what? new docs tab? |
| 19:18.43 | treke|home | yes |
| 19:19.43 | ljp_laptop_ | well, I need to connect clicking for one. and get every mimetype |
| 19:20.48 | zecke_ | treke|home: you can clone write a different DocView |
| 19:20.54 | zecke_ | show by storage place |
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| 19:24.04 | treke|home | mostly I was wondering what still needs to be done before it can be imported into cvs |
| 19:24.58 | ljp_laptop_ | soon |
| 19:25.09 | treke|home | cool |
| 19:25.12 | chouimat|reading | ljp_laptop_: or just send us the diff :) |
| 19:25.58 | ljp_laptop_ | hahaha |
| 19:26.21 | treke|home | would be good to at least get a patch in for OE before the next release |
| 19:26.33 | chouimat|reading | I'm making a coffee pot does any of you want some? |
| 19:26.48 | treke|home | nah I've already got a pot |
| 19:26.59 | ljp_laptop_ | ya I need some pot |
| 19:27.07 | chouimat|reading | lol |
| 19:27.09 | treke|home | you might want to make some coffee once you finish making the pot |
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| 20:00.00 | chouimat|reading | di 3.9 rocks |
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| 20:04.08 | ljp_laptop_ | thx |
| 20:04.13 | treke|home | man long weekends rock |
| 20:04.25 | chouimat|reading | treke|home: week off too :) |
| 20:04.40 | zecke_ | beeing too sick for skool but ok for hacking is the best |
| 20:06.03 | chouimat|reading | http://www.gentoo.com/di/ <-- that df replacement rocks |
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| 20:10.04 | zecke_ | ljp_laptop_: may you smoke pot at Brisbane? |
| 20:10.27 | ljp_laptop_ | hehehe. dunno. probably not. I get exported if I get caught |
| 20:10.38 | treke|home | deported |
| 20:10.44 | zecke_ | lol |
| 20:11.21 | zecke_ | in Germany you musn't buy it.. but as a gift it would be ok... and up to 6 gramm in Berlin is ok to have... |
| 20:11.38 | ljp_laptop_ | no, deported means you get put on plane. exported means you get put on slow boat |
| 20:11.45 | ljp_laptop_ | nice |
| 20:11.46 | treke|home | hehe |
| 20:12.08 | zecke_ | ljp_laptop_: and we need a supreme court ruling on the amount you may have... |
| 20:12.12 | ljp_laptop_ | alaska used to have laws like that. you could grow it, 4 plants, but not sell it |
| 20:12.23 | chouimat|reading | zecke_: with the new canadian it wouldn't be a criminal offence if you get caught with 15 grams or less, you will just pay a 150 $ fine |
| 20:12.29 | zecke_ | ljp_laptop_: every state has different amount what is legal and this is illegal ;) |
| 20:12.46 | zecke_ | chouimat|reading: and your dope is taken away :( |
| 20:13.07 | ljp_laptop_ | I havent smoked in a long time. |
| 20:13.23 | chouimat|reading | zecke_: I think the fine are for 15 grams or more |
| 20:13.52 | zecke_ | ljp_laptop_: everyone I know smokes pot.. it's like drinking bear... |
| 20:14.22 | zecke_ | even the German Government were pot dudes back in the 60 |
| 20:14.59 | chouimat|reading | zecke_: ewww bear (bär) |
| 20:15.25 | zecke_ | chouimat|reading: my fscked up spelling gets worse when I'm tired |
| 20:15.42 | chouimat|reading | zecke_: I never drink that ... I wonder what the taste is ? :) |
| 20:15.51 | zecke_ | we even smoked pot during breaks... |
| 20:15.57 | ljp_laptop_ | it used to be like that when I was younger. |
| 20:15.57 | zecke_ | chouimat|reading: Bärenstark |
| 20:16.20 | ljp_laptop_ | I was a pizza cook, and eveyone used pot |
| 20:16.25 | ljp_laptop_ | and in the ski industry |
| 20:16.53 | ljp_laptop_ | all those ski list attendants are stoned |
| 20:16.54 | killefiz | damn - i played with netconfig and now dhcp ceased working - can anyone tell me where the network-config app stores its conf-files? |
| 20:16.54 | ljp_laptop_ | lift |
| 20:16.57 | chouimat|reading | zecke_: I don't find "Bärenstark" in my german-french dict |
| 20:17.02 | treke|home | killefiz: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 20:17.42 | zecke_ | chouimat|reading: if something is really good and poweful.. |
| 20:17.48 | chouimat|reading | zecke_: ok |
| 20:17.50 | ljp_laptop_ | here in Boulder, every saturday at 4:20 ( 4-20 being Police code for pot smoking going on), there's a huge get together in a park and eveyone smokes up |
| 20:18.05 | zecke_ | lol |
| 20:18.08 | chouimat|reading | ljp_laptop_: lol |
| 20:18.16 | killefiz | hmm - iface wlan0 inet dhcp |
| 20:18.22 | killefiz | is there anything wrong with that? |
| 20:18.28 | treke|home | depends |
| 20:18.35 | treke|home | is the interface wlan0? |
| 20:18.39 | killefiz | ;) |
| 20:18.41 | killefiz | yes |
| 20:19.22 | killefiz | if works if i use ifconfig to assign an ip- but it doesn't work with dhcp anymore - since i tried adding a profile |
| 20:20.25 | ljp_laptop_ | I keep getting my branches mixed |
| 20:20.25 | ljp_laptop_ | up |
| 20:20.35 | zecke_ | tete |
| 20:20.40 | ljp_laptop_ | :) |
| 20:20.45 | zecke_ | have two dirs with different names help |
| 20:20.57 | zecke_ | s |
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| 20:21.12 | Speedy2 | ibot seen timriker |
| 20:21.12 | | timriker <~timr@c-67-163-110-34.client.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 18h 23m 25s ago, saying: 'cool.'. |
| 20:22.22 | cmartin | killefiz: how's the new bootloader for simpad? |
| 20:22.30 | ljp_laptop_ | I know I definetely could not smoke if I was working at TI, they have drug tests |
| 20:22.30 | cmartin | it works for me |
| 20:22.36 | killefiz | cmartin: working |
| 20:23.04 | killefiz | i'm happy. I have a fully working simpad - wlan / opie / switches / resume / suspend |
| 20:23.21 | chouimat|reading | ljp_laptop_: yup :( |
| 20:24.10 | killefiz | cmartin: have you found a safe solution for using a jffs2-image withouth the new bootloader? |
| 20:24.24 | cmartin | killefiz: do you use switchd for switches or does mickeys work? |
| 20:24.24 | treke|home | mickeyl|tv: new images are finally uploading |
| 20:24.45 | killefiz | cmartin: mickeys qte-patch |
| 20:25.00 | killefiz | key repeat doesn't work yet |
| 20:25.12 | treke|home | mickeyl|tv: for once I have a decently working image and the patience to wait on a 70 meg upload :p |
| 20:25.12 | cmartin | killefiz: does it compile automatically or do i have to apply it myself? |
| 20:25.34 | treke|home | man I need a faster upstream |
| 20:25.39 | killefiz | cmartin: it's in buildroot - so it compiles automatically if you update the opie cvs |
| 20:25.53 | cmartin | killefiz: no no other way to work with jffs without first erasing flash |
| 20:26.21 | killefiz | cmartin: too bad - so there won't be an oe-release until a bootloader with erease functionality is officially released :( |
| 20:26.27 | cmartin | killefiz: the padding issue Nils mentioned isn't good - you would have to upload a ~32MB image everytime |
| 20:26.43 | chouimat|reading | treke|home: 70 mb upload? |
| 20:27.02 | treke|home | chouimat|reading: yes. feed+images |
| 20:27.04 | killefiz | cmartin: that can be worked around be gzipping the image |
| 20:27.19 | killefiz | but my impression was that flashing images bigger than 16MB would not work? |
| 20:27.22 | cmartin | killefiz: i think so - but i think juergen and walti will release it to the public soon |
| 20:27.41 | chouimat|reading | treke: ok |
| 20:27.44 | killefiz | cmartin: oh - lirc and opie-remote work now too |
| 20:27.45 | cmartin | killefiz: yes that's right |
| 20:27.52 | treke|home | a 32mb image is annoying, but far from the worst thing in the world :) |
| 20:28.09 | killefiz | the ir-range is very good. The simpad makes a great remote-control. |
| 20:28.21 | killefiz | opie-remote needs some work though |
| 20:28.58 | treke|home | I dont think anyone actually uses it |
| 20:29.05 | treke|home | since most devices have shit range |
| 20:29.28 | killefiz | treke|home: right - maybe it's a good way for me to finally learn proper qt and c++ |
| 20:29.35 | cmartin | treke|home: that's true, but as i mentioned once before padding the image didn't work anyway - and an image >16MB won't install |
| 20:29.58 | treke|home | killefiz: its written in bourne shell I think |
| 20:30.29 | killefiz | treke|home: no - you might be referring to zremote |
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| 20:30.50 | treke|home | hrm. Thought opie-remote used opie-sh also |
| 20:31.43 | cmartin | killefiz: what's the default orientation on your simpad? mine is 600x800 and a rotate rotates in the wrong direction |
| 20:32.41 | killefiz | mine is 800x600 |
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| 20:32.55 | killefiz | i had that problem too - it's fixed in buildroot |
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| 20:33.05 | cmartin | k |
| 20:33.05 | killefiz | (no more upside-down) |
| 20:33.17 | Speedy2 | What is a simpad? |
| 20:33.25 | killefiz | mickeyl has done a lot on everything over the last couple of days |
| 20:33.45 | cmartin | killefiz: as i've noticed |
| 20:34.01 | killefiz | Speedy2: a webpad with hardware similar to a z or ipaq |
| 20:34.16 | killefiz | it was a flop so it's sold for ~300 EUR now |
| 20:34.20 | Speedy2 | killefiz: Where'd you get it? |
| 20:34.22 | cmartin | killefiz: i'm thankful, since i don't have much time and knowledge to get all this working |
| 20:34.25 | killefiz | see http://www.opensimpad.org |
| 20:34.42 | killefiz | Speedy2: it's only available in europe |
| 20:34.45 | Speedy2 | <-- is seeking an LCD 5-7" |
| 20:34.49 | Speedy2 | Hrm |
| 20:35.09 | killefiz | Speedy2: i think it's 8.4" |
| 20:35.15 | Speedy2 | killefiz: This looks cool. |
| 20:35.28 | killefiz | Speedy2: it is really cool - esp. for the price |
| 20:35.29 | Speedy2 | killefiz: 300 EUR is ~$150 USD? or like ~180 USD? |
| 20:35.40 | treke|home | Speedy2: its like 300 USD :) |
| 20:35.41 | Speedy2 | StrongARM processor? |
| 20:35.45 | chouimat|reading | Speedy2: more like 325 USD |
| 20:35.48 | zecke_ | Speedy2: 320$ |
| 20:35.55 | Speedy2 | Damn. Kinda expensive. |
| 20:35.55 | treke|home | Sugar What is 300 EURO in USD? |
| 20:35.59 | Sugar | 300 EUR is 351.28806 US$ |
| 20:36.00 | killefiz | wow |
| 20:36.16 | chouimat|reading | sugar what is 300 eur in cad |
| 20:36.18 | Speedy2 | killefiz: Processor is StrongARM? |
| 20:36.18 | Sugar | 300 EUR is 474.59015 CAD |
| 20:36.22 | killefiz | Speedy2: yes |
| 20:36.32 | Speedy2 | (The value of money shouldn't be fluctuating...that sux) |
| 20:36.39 | ljp_laptop_ | when is canada going to switch to the euro? |
| 20:36.55 | killefiz | ljp_laptop_: australia is first ;) |
| 20:36.58 | zecke_ | ljp_laptop_: the day after Texas switches |
| 20:37.03 | Speedy2 | Heh |
| 20:37.18 | Speedy2 | killefiz: So is Siemens dumping them or how are you buying these? |
| 20:37.32 | killefiz | yep - they're selling em out |
| 20:37.43 | killefiz | i'm already thinking of buying a 2nd one |
| 20:38.00 | chouimat|reading | ljp_laptop_: when Canada will be a member of the European union |
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| 20:38.08 | noda | Moo! |
| 20:38.21 | Speedy2 | Hrm. $325...800x600 LCD? |
| 20:38.21 | zecke_ | does anyone know why automounting cf cards isn't working? |
| 20:38.39 | treke|home | in familiar? |
| 20:38.46 | treke|home | probably because it sucks :p |
| 20:38.46 | zecke_ | no OZ |
| 20:38.53 | ljp_laptop_ | doesnt work here either |
| 20:38.59 | noda | Works for me |
| 20:39.36 | Speedy2 | killefiz: Did the Simpad run Linux already or was there a port involved? |
| 20:39.54 | zecke_ | rebuild buildroot today and it still isn't working |
| 20:40.00 | killefiz | Speedy2: it comes with windows ce |
| 20:40.17 | Speedy2 | Hrm |
| 20:40.19 | killefiz | some people at siemens-ch have ported the kernel (last year) |
| 20:40.34 | treke|home | zecke_: dunno. Works For Me |
| 20:40.52 | Speedy2 | Ugh. I wish I could get one of those cheaply. |
| 20:41.03 | killefiz | then cmartin started building an opie image based on familiar and has integrated it into the oe-buildroot together with mickeyl |
| 20:41.14 | Speedy2 | I need an LCD with touchscreen purty cheaply |
| 20:41.21 | killefiz | Speedy2: what for? |
| 20:41.34 | Speedy2 | For a kinda crazy project I'm working on |
| 20:41.51 | Speedy2 | Basically I just need to run VNC on this thing so WinCE or Linux would be fine. |
| 20:42.11 | Speedy2 | (Simpad) |
| 20:42.18 | ljp_laptop_ | Speedy2: walgreens has very cheap pim handlelds |
| 20:42.24 | ljp_laptop_ | like $20 |
| 20:42.32 | Speedy2 | ljp_laptop_: Yeah, but I need a largish LCD, like 6-7" |
| 20:42.34 | Speedy2 | Color, etc |
| 20:42.36 | ljp_laptop_ | hehe ooh |
| 20:42.50 | Speedy2 | Maybe get one of those Lucent phone things Riker had? |
| 20:42.55 | Speedy2 | What were they called? |
| 20:42.55 | ljp_laptop_ | I have an old laptop I can send you |
| 20:43.02 | treke|home | tuxscreen |
| 20:43.09 | Speedy2 | Yeah |
| 20:43.15 | ljp_laptop_ | hmm, dont know of its color |
| 20:43.15 | Speedy2 | But the LCD on that is dual-scan if I recall correctly. |
| 20:43.28 | Speedy2 | That == tuxscreen |
| 20:44.49 | killefiz | cmartin: plus opera6 works well on simpad |
| 20:45.13 | cmartin | killefiz: where do you get opera6? - from your Z |
| 20:45.37 | killefiz | cmartin: yes |
| 20:46.26 | cmartin | killefiz: too bad, then i can't get opera on my simpad |
| 20:47.03 | killefiz | ibot: zsi operacreator_for_linux |
| 20:47.18 | cmartin | killefiz: i'll be busy the next couple of days, so if mickeyl looks for me tell him i'll be back on irc tuesday - o.k.? |
| 20:47.27 | killefiz | cmartin: will do |
| 20:48.32 | cmartin | killefiz: thanx |
| 20:48.50 | cmartin | killefiz: for the url |
| 20:49.02 | killefiz | cmartin: that's what i built the site for ;) |
| 20:49.04 | Speedy2 | killefiz's site rox |
| 20:49.13 | Speedy2 | Should be like the first site in any Zaurus FAQ |
| 20:49.27 | cmartin | yep |
| 20:49.46 | cmartin | and for openipaq, opensimpad ..... |
| 20:50.16 | treke|home | maybe some new organization would be handy |
| 20:50.58 | treke|home | a way to browse based on the device you have |
| 20:51.13 | killefiz | and a rating system, comment system, a way to delete screenshots |
| 20:51.15 | killefiz | ... |
| 20:51.38 | Speedy2 | ugh |
| 20:51.40 | Speedy2 | Gotta jet |
| 20:51.41 | Speedy2 | bbl |
| 20:52.01 | treke|home | 30 minutes left to a new ipaq image |
| 20:52.21 | killefiz | anyone interested in helping with approving changes / new apps on zsi? |
| 20:52.39 | cmartin | mickeyl: hi, man you sure have put in the turbo... - fantastic work |
| 20:53.28 | cmartin | mickeyl: i'll be pretty busy the next couple of days, but i'll be back to work on the simpad on tuesday |
| 20:54.07 | killefiz | cmartin: if there is any work left by then |
| 20:54.16 | killefiz | ;) - kidding |
| 20:54.17 | cmartin | hehe |
| 20:54.51 | killefiz | cmartin: how does switchd work? does it "emulate" keypresses to the kernel? |
| 20:55.12 | mickeyl | cmartin: okay |
| 20:55.22 | cmartin | killefiz: if mickeyl keeps it up then you may be right, but i think his marriage would be in danger ;) |
| 20:55.46 | mickeyl | no joke - very true that! :) |
| 20:56.09 | mickeyl | was a tough weekend... did more work than planned... but you know... once you get started achieving something its pretty fun |
| 20:57.05 | cmartin | mickeyl: that's true, but the wife can be pretty fun too ;) |
| 20:57.09 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 20:57.31 | mickeyl | cmartin: i have to get back to my other opie projects (camera,wellenreiter,network applet) soon - so i wanted to get a usable SIMpad state before doing that :) |
| 20:57.53 | cmartin | gotta go take care of my wife ;) |
| 20:58.38 | mickeyl | c'ya |
| 20:58.52 | cmartin | by |
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| 21:00.10 | mickeyl | killefiz: do you like the default key mapping? (upper switch is ESCAPE, lower switch is OK) |
| 21:00.23 | mickeyl | i think its pretty good to open/close applications with this mapping |
| 21:00.31 | mickeyl | the winCE mapping was just pure braindead |
| 21:00.47 | killefiz | i think i would prefer it the other way around |
| 21:01.00 | mickeyl | really? hmm.... maybe make that customizable... |
| 21:01.01 | mickeyl | later |
| 21:01.17 | killefiz | no - rather not |
| 21:01.32 | killefiz | i'm used to the current setup now ;) |
| 21:01.36 | mickeyl | hehe good. |
| 21:01.48 | killefiz | have you fixed the key-repeat already? |
| 21:02.13 | mickeyl | no - but i know how to do it so it is just a matter of one or two free hours next week. |
| 21:02.31 | mickeyl | no idea when though - will have a busy week preparing lessons for my prof |
| 21:03.15 | killefiz | good - it's not very convenient for browsing now |
| 21:03.15 | mickeyl | suspend and resume pcmcia works nicely if i manually eject my wlan card before suspending |
| 21:03.23 | killefiz | same for me |
| 21:03.26 | zecke_ | nite |
| 21:03.31 | mickeyl | night zecke! |
| 21:03.56 | zecke_ | mickeyl: the header is not hidden anymore |
| 21:04.05 | mickeyl | zecke_: great. thanks - makes that more usable. |
| 21:04.10 | killefiz | n8 |
| 21:05.01 | killefiz | mickeyl: i haven't managed to power my pad off with the "off" button |
| 21:05.20 | mickeyl | good. did anything special or just so ? |
| 21:05.24 | mickeyl | ah |
| 21:05.26 | mickeyl | sorry |
| 21:05.29 | mickeyl | haven't |
| 21:05.39 | killefiz | does it work for you? |
| 21:05.42 | mickeyl | that's strange - it works here. did cmartin say anything about it ? |
| 21:05.51 | killefiz | no - forgot to ask him |
| 21:06.19 | mickeyl | killefiz: thing is, I even can't access this switch because its connect in kernel. aaah ... |
| 21:06.26 | mickeyl | check your kernel config |
| 21:06.35 | mickeyl | maybe you accidantly forgot SA1100 switches = y |
| 21:06.48 | killefiz | that's bad - i was thinking that it might be nice to have the switch configurable as a 3rd "key" |
| 21:06.48 | mickeyl | this would explain the behaviour |
| 21:07.13 | mickeyl | killefiz: it's not set in stone. we can patch it to act as a customizable key |
| 21:07.22 | mickeyl | will have to talk with juergen about that |
| 21:07.31 | mickeyl | the whole power management issue must be reworked. |
| 21:07.42 | mickeyl | but that's their job. /me stays away from doing more kernel work |
| 21:07.59 | killefiz | another problem with the keyhandling is that e.g. sdl-apps wont be able to access the keys |
| 21:08.26 | killefiz | CONFIG_SWITCHES_SA1100=y |
| 21:08.28 | mickeyl | that's normal. sdl must be patched for every new supported device |
| 21:08.38 | mickeyl | ok, then it is not that |
| 21:08.57 | killefiz | oh - i thought it would be using normal kernel keyboard-handling on the z |
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| 21:37.37 | AndyQ | hi |
| 21:37.45 | mickeyl | hi AndyQ - how are things going? |
| 21:38.08 | AndyQ | good - had a nice weekend and a bank holiday tomorrow - bit of a rest :) |
| 21:38.21 | AndyQ | mickeyl: hows things? |
| 21:39.00 | mickeyl | pretty cool. OE + Opie on SIMpad is nearly ready for public consumption. Opie 1.0 appearing in only a couple of weeks |
| 21:39.24 | AndyQ | yeah - things seem to be happening quite a bit |
| 21:39.53 | AndyQ | don't seem to be able to keep up at the moment - too much other stuff happening |
| 21:39.53 | mickeyl | yes - it's always in kinda wave-style... you know... some weeks nothing is happening, then some weeks pretty much |
| 21:40.12 | mickeyl | you will always be welcome as soon as you have more time to spend :) |
| 21:41.54 | ljp_laptop_ | how bout me? am I always welcome too? ;) |
| 21:41.59 | AndyQ | ta - I feel a bit bad at the moment - just don't have time to even turn my Z on most days let alone consider coding :( I wish life would slow down for a bit ! |
| 21:42.16 | AndyQ | ljp_laptop_: heh - don't think you would stay away anyways :) |
| 21:42.17 | ljp_laptop_ | flow with it, dude |
| 21:42.38 | AndyQ | ljp_laptop_: have to - no other choice really |
| 21:42.39 | ljp_laptop_ | yes, cause I have no life |
| 21:42.43 | AndyQ | lol |
| 21:43.01 | ljp_laptop_ | soon, though, I will |
| 21:43.24 | AndyQ | ljp_laptop_: got a girl/new job/?? |
| 21:43.29 | ljp_laptop_ | job |
| 21:43.37 | AndyQ | ljp_laptop_: TI? ot TT? |
| 21:43.47 | ljp_laptop_ | in brisbane australia, for TT |
| 21:43.59 | ljp_laptop_ | waiting for work visa |
| 21:44.01 | AndyQ | ljp_laptop_: WELL DONE! I'l love to work in Aus! |
| 21:44.07 | ljp_laptop_ | :) |
| 21:44.13 | ljp_laptop_ | i cant wait, actually |
| 21:44.21 | AndyQ | ljp_laptop_: Yeah - I bet |
| 21:44.30 | ljp_laptop_ | I cant believe they are hiring me also |
| 21:44.36 | AndyQ | ljp_laptop_: doing what? Coding? |
| 21:44.44 | ljp_laptop_ | 'qtopia community liason' |
| 21:44.55 | ljp_laptop_ | a bit of everything, believe |
| 21:45.09 | AndyQ | ljp_laptop_: does that mean you can influence any design decisions? |
| 21:45.09 | ljp_laptop_ | first job is to set up a community web site |
| 21:45.18 | ljp_laptop_ | perhaps. |
| 21:45.20 | ljp_laptop_ | yes |
| 21:45.28 | AndyQ | :) at last |
| 21:46.05 | ljp_laptop_ | depends though, I am sure they have their own ideas about how things should be |
| 21:46.17 | ljp_laptop_ | better comm between opie and qtopia, though |
| 21:46.34 | AndyQ | ljp_laptop_: that would be good |
| 21:46.54 | ljp_laptop_ | I just want to get there already |
| 21:47.11 | AndyQ | ljp_laptop_: how long til you get yor visa? |
| 21:47.30 | ljp_laptop_ | dunno, they said they have seen it take 2 weeks or 16 vweeks |
| 21:47.51 | ljp_laptop_ | http://www.llornkcor.com/screenshots/docs2.png |
| 21:47.57 | AndyQ | and how long have you been waiting> |
| 21:47.57 | ljp_laptop_ | new docs tab |
| 21:48.06 | ljp_laptop_ | will be two weeks |
| 21:48.13 | AndyQ | new docs looks nice |
| 21:48.18 | ljp_laptop_ | had to wait for my passport |
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| 21:48.25 | AndyQ | hey TheMasterMind1 |
| 21:49.17 | TheMasterMind1 | hey AndyQ |
| 21:49.19 | TheMasterMind1 | sup |
| 21:49.42 | chouimat | re |
| 21:49.46 | AndyQ | hey chouimat |
| 21:53.58 | chouimat | hi AndyQ |
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| 23:03.11 | Lazerdye | Hello, I can't find this in a FAQ, is there a way to change the boot logo, the instructions I found (change /opt/QtPalmtop/pics/Startup_screen.bmp) did not work for me. |
| 23:04.27 | treke|home | it is part of the kernel |
| 23:05.07 | Lazerdye | treke|home: Aha, needs a recompile, then? |
| 23:05.15 | treke|home | yes |
| 23:05.23 | Lazerdye | treke|home: Thank you. |
| 23:07.37 | ljp_laptop_ | that was easy |
| 23:07.53 | ljp_laptop_ | leem try that one the next question |
| 23:08.35 | treke|home | how do I make opie player work? |
| 23:09.39 | ljp_laptop_ | its in the kernel |
| 23:09.50 | ljp_laptop_ | hmm |
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| 23:09.57 | ljp_laptop_ | you didnt go away |
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| 23:10.04 | ljp_laptop_ | hehehe |
| 23:12.52 | treke|home | man we have some great todo items for opie 1.1 |
| 23:13.02 | treke|home | "Fix minesweeper" |
| 23:13.13 | ljp_laptop_ | hmmm |
| 23:13.14 | treke|home | "Make everything work on the zaurus." |
| 23:13.38 | ljp_laptop_ | 'make it run on wince' |
| 23:14.27 | treke|home | "Timezone support for Arizona (MST in winter, PDT in summer)" |
| 23:14.44 | treke|home | sure are aiming for the stars |
| 23:14.51 | ljp_laptop_ | ;) |
| 23:19.10 | treke|home | " |
| 23:19.12 | treke|home | This screenshot showcases PicoGUI's new compatibility layer for running Xview apps with the OpenLook interface. This ensures that PicoGUI users will always have access to the latest OpenLook-enabled desktop applications." |
| 23:19.40 | treke|home | I was really worried about missing out on all those new openlook apps that are coming out |
| 23:19.57 | ljp_laptop_ | whats openlook? |
| 23:22.11 | treke|home | a gui |
| 23:23.30 | chouimat | treke|home: new openlook (xview) application?? I thought that was dead when sun switched to motif |
| 23:23.46 | treke|home | chouimat: humor is lost on you |
| 23:23.48 | ljp_laptop_ | theres a bug in the hacked 3.1 rom for 5000d, its unplugged but the battery applet still shows it charging |
| 23:24.20 | chouimat | treke|home: especialy when I didn't sleep the night before |
| 23:27.09 | ljp_laptop_ | maybe it has wireless power transmission |
| 23:28.20 | ljp_laptop_ | man, those icons are really japanese styled |
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| 23:37.32 | chouimat | http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/05/25/MN309974.DTL |
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