| 00:07.38 | troffasky | arse |
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| 00:17.32 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: done yet? |
| 00:17.52 | kergoth | no, something weird is going on |
| 00:18.09 | TheMasterMind1 | what |
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| 00:18.51 | kergoth | hmm, we aplied that simpad patch |
| 00:18.55 | kergoth | wonder if thats interfering |
| 00:19.03 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: he just saw his boss dancing naked in his office :) |
| 00:19.11 | TheMasterMind1 | again?! |
| 00:19.39 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: the patch or the boss? |
| 00:19.46 | TheMasterMind1 | the boss |
| 00:19.53 | kergoth | you know |
| 00:19.56 | kergoth | that god for ccache |
| 00:19.57 | kergoth | thank |
| 00:19.59 | kergoth | not that |
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| 00:20.05 | dmalloc | hell oh |
| 00:21.09 | chouimat | what is worst than a program that stop compiling? |
| 00:21.18 | kergoth | what? |
| 00:21.52 | chouimat | find out that the nice chick you date for a month like a little too much girls ... |
| 00:22.46 | TheMasterMind1 | what's your native tounge? |
| 00:22.48 | dmalloc | chouimat: are you sure that is not heaven you are describing ;) |
| 00:23.12 | TheMasterMind1 | chouimat: so tell her to bring some of her girl friends with her |
| 00:23.49 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: FRENCH |
| 00:24.14 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 00:25.23 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: it's that I told the friend that told me that about 30 minutes ago .... |
| 00:25.26 | dmalloc | mmm 2 Gbit hard disk access.. yummy |
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| 00:26.16 | chouimat | http://kafka.fr.free.fr/MoreQt/ |
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| 00:36.06 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: are we there yet? are we there yet? |
| 00:36.21 | kergoth | GRR |
| 00:36.44 | billytwowilly | kergoth: is TheMasterMind1 kick/banned yet? is TheMasterMind1 kick/banned yet?;) |
| 00:37.02 | *** kick/#openembedded [billytwowilly!~kergoth@c-66-41-34-199.mn.client2.attbi.com] by kergoth (no) |
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| 00:37.17 | billytwowilly | no sense of humour I swear.. |
| 00:37.40 | kergoth | bad timing |
| 00:37.51 | billytwowilly | ahh, why? what's going on? |
| 00:38.04 | kergoth | long day, and i'm fighting qt/e and its winning |
| 00:38.21 | billytwowilly | you need to take of the gloves and put on the shit kickers;) |
| 00:44.14 | TheMasterMind1 | billytwowilly: eh.. |
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| 00:44.27 | TheMasterMind1 | what were you saying? |
| 00:44.29 | TheMasterMind1 | ;) |
| 00:44.48 | billytwowilly | TheMasterMind1: I slept with your sister. |
| 00:44.54 | billytwowilly | TheMasterMind1: heeheehee. jk |
| 00:45.08 | *** kick/#openembedded [billytwowilly!foobar@h-68-166-73-229.MCLNVA23.covad.net] by TheMasterMind1 (heh) |
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| 00:45.26 | TheMasterMind1 | billytwowilly: :) |
| 00:45.29 | billytwowilly | TheMasterMind1: do you get some sort of prize for getting kicked from the chan the most? |
| 00:45.36 | billytwowilly | ;) |
| 00:45.39 | *** kick/#openembedded [billytwowilly!~kergoth@c-66-41-34-199.mn.client2.attbi.com] by kergoth (you win!) |
| 00:45.40 | treke | time to try doing a new build :) |
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| 00:45.50 | billytwowilly | hurray! |
| 00:45.53 | TheMasterMind1 | rofl |
| 00:46.05 | billytwowilly | what's the prize? another kick?;) |
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| 00:46.10 | TheMasterMind1 | there |
| 00:46.12 | TheMasterMind1 | lucky you |
| 00:46.32 | kergoth | egad |
| 00:46.34 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1, dood |
| 00:46.41 | kergoth | this database for my company's knowledge base/faq system |
| 00:46.45 | kergoth | for categories.. |
| 00:46.53 | kergoth | they have a single 255 text field in the article table |
| 00:46.58 | kergoth | SPACE seperated categories |
| 00:47.02 | TheMasterMind1 | ewww |
| 00:47.14 | kergoth | anyone teach these people how to use a seperate table and an inner join on queries? |
| 00:47.17 | kergoth | disgusting |
| 00:47.25 | TheMasterMind1 | i wouldn't want to try |
| 00:47.35 | kergoth | and i have to get a new frontend for this piece of shit |
| 00:47.39 | treke | kergoth: ick |
| 00:47.44 | billytwowilly | kergoth: isn't that your job? |
| 00:47.57 | billytwowilly | teaching them I mean. |
| 00:48.02 | TheMasterMind1 | need to find someone rich to hire kergoth to work on OE all day long |
| 00:48.06 | TheMasterMind1 | if i become rich, i'll do that |
| 00:48.10 | billytwowilly | I thought you were tech help or something. I can't quite remember. |
| 00:48.17 | kergoth | yeah i'm unix support |
| 00:48.28 | kergoth | aka the dept where every other dept kicks shit at |
| 00:49.01 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: if you don't mind me asking, how much do you make |
| 00:49.04 | kergoth | heh, OE would kick some serious ass if someone paid me to spend time on it |
| 00:49.11 | billytwowilly | heh. so how hard would it be to fix their knowledge base system? |
| 00:49.21 | Neo|Work | fap |
| 00:49.22 | kergoth | i'm making ~$39,000 here |
| 00:49.23 | Neo|Work | HSN sold out |
| 00:49.31 | kenb | :( |
| 00:49.38 | kenb | 19:38|<Neo|Work> HSN sold out |
| 00:49.39 | kergoth | billytwowilly: it just needs to be redone from the gruond up |
| 00:49.40 | TheMasterMind1 | Neo|Work: already?! |
| 00:49.51 | TheMasterMind1 | fuke |
| 00:49.52 | Neo|Work | TheMasterMind1: so it seem |
| 00:49.59 | billytwowilly | kergoth: heh. so leave it for the next poor bastard to grace the presence of the unix help dept;) |
| 00:49.59 | Neo|Work | wonder how many they had |
| 00:50.03 | kergoth | well, what did you expect, it was on slashdot after all |
| 00:50.16 | Neo|Work | at the price I am not surprised really |
| 00:50.19 | kergoth | billytwowilly: I'd like to, cept its on my goals |
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| 00:50.23 | Neo|Work | $170 for such a powerful PDA is quite a damn good price |
| 00:50.42 | billytwowilly | kergoth: that stinks. |
| 00:50.56 | treke | I really think they've have sold a lot more zauruses if they started them at 250 |
| 00:51.10 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: heh, is that that list of goals that you lost and your boss wanted to see? |
| 00:51.26 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: heh, i wish. we have a fucking web based goal tracking system |
| 00:51.31 | TheMasterMind1 | rofl |
| 00:51.44 | kergoth | that they blew immense amounts of money on |
| 00:51.46 | Neo|Work | treke: well, original pricing in the 300s instead of 500 would have been good.. |
| 00:51.47 | kergoth | bleh |
| 00:51.50 | billytwowilly | is sharp still making the sl-5500 or has it stopped now that it's making the 5600? |
| 00:51.54 | Neo|Work | but who knows how much they cost to manufacture |
| 00:52.10 | Neo|Work | billytwowilly: not being made more afaik |
| 00:52.21 | Neo|Work | wonder what the cost is for each product |
| 00:52.26 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: ok, this build has a chance of being happy |
| 00:52.32 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: threw an assload of qWarning()s in |
| 00:52.36 | billytwowilly | I was under the impression that PDA's where a high profit margin field to be in, so they were probably relatively cheap. |
| 00:52.37 | kergoth | so i can see wtf is going on |
| 00:52.43 | Neo|Work | in all honesty they probably should have sold more or less at cost or barely over, perhaps even UNDER, to get market share |
| 00:52.48 | TheMasterMind1 | good good |
| 00:53.01 | kergoth | Neo|Work: they shouldve fscking _advertised_ |
| 00:53.07 | kergoth | and offered spiffs to salespeople |
| 00:53.08 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 00:53.32 | treke | yeah. when sales man actually try talking you out of buying one, it's a bad thing :) |
| 00:54.02 | ljp | they needed to put more time and energy into the apps |
| 00:54.12 | ljp | thats the thing thats killing it |
| 00:54.15 | billytwowilly | I'm still much more impressed with the ipaq 5400 series over the 5600 zaurus.. |
| 00:54.20 | kergoth | they needed to put more time and energy into the whoel fucking thing |
| 00:54.33 | treke | yeah the 5400 has some good things going for it |
| 00:54.50 | treke | I think they dropped the sleeves, but made up for it with a better internal bundle |
| 00:54.54 | Neo|Work | well, in all honesty, it felt more like a trial than a fullblown effort |
| 00:54.55 | kergoth | sharp really needs to sell a unit like the c700 |
| 00:54.57 | kergoth | in the US |
| 00:55.02 | kergoth | people would be all over it |
| 00:55.02 | Neo|Work | and the bad software quality really made it a bad trial I think |
| 00:55.23 | billytwowilly | treke: the 5400 series doesn't allow you to use sleeves anymore? |
| 00:55.29 | treke | billytwowilly: I dont think so |
| 00:55.43 | Neo|Work | kergoth: software still is bad though |
| 00:55.49 | Neo|Work | and it seriously needs more memory |
| 00:55.52 | treke | oh yes it does |
| 00:55.53 | treke | cool |
| 00:55.58 | billytwowilly | I hope not. that would make me change my mind about buying one in the future second hand.. |
| 00:56.00 | Neo|Work | my axim is damned nice |
| 00:56.02 | Neo|Work | too |
| 00:56.03 | chops | www.google.com |
| 00:56.05 | treke | i thought it was built in SD/CF/wireless |
| 00:56.11 | treke | turns out its just built in SD/CF |
| 00:56.17 | treke | er built in SD/wireless |
| 00:56.18 | chops | sorry |
| 00:56.19 | Neo|Work | and the price is so right for the dell's |
| 00:56.38 | billytwowilly | trke: the 5400 series has built in 802.11b and bluetooth... |
| 00:56.41 | TheMasterMind1 | need OE on axim |
| 00:56.50 | billytwowilly | yah, that would be really nice. |
| 00:57.03 | Neo|Work | btw, some of the pocketpc software, such as internet exploder, sucks bigtime |
| 00:57.10 | Neo|Work | I mean, I can't even (afaik) enter a URL to got |
| 00:57.27 | Neo|Work | well, as a metter of fact I haven't been able to create a bookmark either |
| 00:57.30 | kergoth | ARGH |
| 00:57.34 | treke | Neo|Work: actually you can |
| 00:57.36 | Neo|Work | it doesn't allow me to set the url field |
| 00:57.39 | treke | Neo|Work: its really confusing |
| 00:57.48 | Neo|Work | treke: how? |
| 00:57.56 | treke | Neo|Work: you have to tell it to enable a toolbar iirc |
| 00:58.01 | treke | it just hides it by default |
| 00:58.21 | Neo|Work | doh |
| 00:58.24 | Neo|Work | view addressbar... |
| 00:58.26 | Neo|Work | how lame. :P |
| 00:58.35 | Neo|Work | ok, so the ui scuks. :P |
| 00:58.35 | treke | yeah |
| 00:58.39 | Neo|Work | there should be an "open url" button |
| 00:58.56 | billytwowilly | or a "replace withe OE" button;) |
| 00:58.57 | Neo|Work | calendar, for example, is on the other hand quite good |
| 00:59.10 | Neo|Work | like it does all the things qtopia's calendar fucked up on |
| 00:59.22 | Neo|Work | well, one thing at least - it remembers previously entered locations |
| 00:59.23 | kergoth | wtf? |
| 00:59.27 | kergoth | GRR |
| 00:59.47 | kergoth | if i run calibrate from serial |
| 00:59.55 | kergoth | it hoses the output, i get garbage instead of my qWarnings |
| 01:00.52 | Neo|Work | speaking of "famous usability fuckups in the Zaurus", lets talk about the hardware buttons |
| 01:00.57 | Neo|Work | such as CANCEL also meaning TURN OFF |
| 01:01.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:01.05 | Neo|Work | I mean who the fuck thought that one up? |
| 01:01.07 | kergoth | that was pretty stupid |
| 01:01.20 | Neo|Work | and - boggle this - the 5600 doesn't fix it afaik |
| 01:01.26 | Neo|Work | also menu == backlight is stupid |
| 01:01.37 | Neo|Work | the A300 does this right (what about b500/c700?) |
| 01:01.43 | Neo|Work | it has a, on the side, powerbutton |
| 01:01.48 | Neo|Work | press fast to off/on |
| 01:01.56 | Neo|Work | press+hold = toggle backlight |
| 01:02.33 | Neo|Work | not only does it have the benefit of not loosing unsaved data if you make a mistake, it also doesn't BREAK the usability of two buttons for games. :P |
| 01:02.35 | kergoth | c700 .. on the side, power, OK, cancel, jog dial |
| 01:02.43 | Neo|Work | ok |
| 01:02.58 | Neo|Work | I wonder why Sharp US models are on crack? |
| 01:03.09 | kergoth | openzaurus login: ŖüĪšx~rĪšx~ |
| 01:03.11 | kergoth | wtf? |
| 01:03.13 | Neo|Work | oh and lack of speaker (and to some degree builtin microphone) is also just insane |
| 01:03.16 | Neo|Work | I mean, wtf? |
| 01:03.20 | kergoth | why oh why would calling calibrate hose my serial port? |
| 01:03.47 | Neo|Work | heh |
| 01:04.06 | Neo|Work | calibrate ts? doesn't try to open serial mice does it? |
| 01:04.14 | kergoth | hmm good point |
| 01:04.22 | kergoth | that would do it, and also explain why my TS isnt working |
| 01:04.24 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:04.39 | Neo|Work | just a guess, /me doesn't know. :) |
| 01:04.47 | Neo|Work | strace is your friend here |
| 01:04.57 | kergoth | yeah, check for an open() of /dev/ts |
| 01:05.16 | Neo|Work | strace is mostly useless, but for stuff like that it rocks. :P |
| 01:05.33 | kergoth | i use strace surprisingly often |
| 01:05.38 | kergoth | good for seeing wtf is goin gon |
| 01:05.43 | Neo|Work | to a degree |
| 01:05.48 | kergoth | ltrace is more useful |
| 01:05.52 | kergoth | you used that? |
| 01:05.56 | Neo|Work | it has limited usability if you don't do system calls |
| 01:05.58 | Neo|Work | ye |
| 01:06.01 | Neo|Work | yes even |
| 01:06.05 | Neo|Work | then you get libc calls too |
| 01:06.15 | Neo|Work | I still want a ptrace based tool that does the same on program level. :P |
| 01:06.20 | Neo|Work | so you get all your own method calls too |
| 01:06.23 | kergoth | that would rock. |
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| 01:06.39 | Neo|Work | there was one such project but i never got it ro actually run (keeps faultsegving) |
| 01:06.44 | kergoth | hm |
| 01:06.56 | kergoth | it'd be like running gdb and hitting step repeatedly |
| 01:06.58 | kergoth | :) |
| 01:07.20 | Neo|Work | exactly |
| 01:07.26 | Neo|Work | well no |
| 01:07.27 | Neo|Work | fin |
| 01:07.29 | Neo|Work | or something |
| 01:07.31 | Neo|Work | not step. :P |
| 01:07.42 | Neo|Work | I wouldn't want to see each LINE executed, just each METHOD |
| 01:07.53 | Neo|Work | each line would be too damn verbose. :P |
| 01:08.11 | Neo|Work | imagine a loop for each pixel on the screen for example |
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| 01:09.53 | kergoth | ahaha |
| 01:09.54 | kergoth | found it |
| 01:10.08 | kergoth | Neo|Work: thatd still b ea lot better than an strace of the same thing :) |
| 01:12.15 | kergoth | Neo|Work: you called it man. it was defaulting the mouse type to Auto instead of TPanel |
| 01:13.47 | kergoth | couldve overridden it |
| 01:13.54 | kergoth | but i didnt even know there was a env var for it |
| 01:13.55 | kergoth | :) |
| 01:15.16 | TheMasterMind1 | found it? |
| 01:15.22 | kergoth | yep, rebuilding now |
| 01:15.24 | kergoth | (again) |
| 01:15.40 | TheMasterMind1 | cool |
| 01:16.15 | kergoth | need to adapt the Faq class from the oz faq to this shit category system at digi |
| 01:16.19 | kergoth | bleh |
| 01:20.23 | kergoth | woot |
| 01:20.28 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: works again :D |
| 01:20.31 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: even on the c700 |
| 01:22.01 | chouimat | ok bbl jag on tv ... |
| 01:23.27 | Neo|Work | kergoth: :)) |
| 01:23.37 | Neo|Work | glad I could be of assistance in a small way |
| 01:23.44 | kergoth | and man, do i love ccache |
| 01:23.55 | kergoth | watching a qt build flyyyyyy by is just beautiful |
| 01:24.32 | Neo|Work | yes |
| 01:24.39 | Neo|Work | I just set up distcc the other day |
| 01:24.54 | Neo|Work | cuts almost in half |
| 01:25.02 | kergoth | great tool |
| 01:25.05 | Neo|Work | insert compilation after cuts. :P |
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| 01:27.29 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: works yet? |
| 01:27.40 | kergoth | it does on my c700 |
| 01:27.49 | kergoth | I need to tweak a couple things in buildroot, then i'll push |
| 01:27.52 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 01:27.54 | TheMasterMind1 | sounds good |
| 01:27.59 | TheMasterMind1 | finally, .19 is usable |
| 01:28.02 | TheMasterMind1 | shweet |
| 01:28.32 | kergoth | in theory |
| 01:28.33 | kergoth | :) |
| 01:28.38 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 01:28.40 | kergoth | you'll be doing the final test |
| 01:28.44 | TheMasterMind1 | ya |
| 01:28.46 | TheMasterMind1 | push it |
| 01:29.02 | TheMasterMind1 | need the keyboard stuff too.. |
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| 01:29.54 | TheMasterMind1 | xterm beep = you've got mail |
| 01:30.00 | kergoth | heehh |
| 01:31.53 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: ran opie calibrate, then ts_test, works flawlessly :) |
| 01:31.56 | kergoth | okay pushing |
| 01:33.09 | Neo|Work | kergoth: hey, test ts performance for me will you? :) |
| 01:33.45 | kergoth | how? got something that shows a FPS? |
| 01:35.23 | Neo|Work | hmm. what do you have? :P |
| 01:35.38 | Neo|Work | rocketelite is a good one |
| 01:35.47 | Neo|Work | since it has a visible option you can toggle |
| 01:36.21 | fishy | :D |
| 01:37.33 | kergoth | I own candy cruncher and bust'em. Dont even have time to use my PDA in such a way that i have time to play them, otherwise i'd buy more |
| 01:37.36 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:38.05 | chouimat|tv | my cat attacked the tv when he saw Bush ... |
| 01:38.06 | Neo|Work | demos work fine |
| 01:38.12 | ljp | you need another pda |
| 01:38.13 | Neo|Work | chouimat|tv: smart cat |
| 01:38.14 | kergoth | k |
| 01:38.20 | Neo|Work | flip it works too btw. |
| 01:38.31 | kergoth | well let install opie first |
| 01:38.32 | kergoth | :) |
| 01:38.34 | chouimat|tv | Neo|Work: yup |
| 01:38.38 | kergoth | I split out the opie calibrator for testing, been using that |
| 01:38.41 | Neo|Work | rocketelite demo is probably the best one though |
| 01:38.44 | kergoth | k |
| 01:39.38 | treke | ljp: give him one |
| 01:39.42 | treke | ljp: you've got too many |
| 01:40.59 | ljp | cant |
| 01:41.12 | treke | <ljp> they belong to my cat. not me. |
| 01:41.27 | ljp | haha ya thats it |
| 01:42.06 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: bk pull :D |
| 01:42.19 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: rebuild both qt/e and tslib |
| 01:42.28 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
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| 01:52.33 | chouimat|tv | 4 US president are on a plane that a storm took to Oz. they were brink to the magician: "Who dare came in front of the Great OZ?". Jimmy Carter spoke the first: I want to have more courage. The great oz replied Done. Reagan followed asking to have a brain. The magician give him a brain. George W. Bush asked to have a heart to feels compassion. The Magician said that was a little harder but |
| 01:52.38 | chouimat|tv | manageable. Only Clinton didn't spoke ... he seemed to wait for some one. Oz asked him : What do you want?. Clinton: Dorothea is she here? |
| 01:52.54 | treke | hehe |
| 01:53.14 | chouimat|tv | :P |
| 01:54.31 | ljp | hehehhe.. |
| 01:54.44 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:54.50 | chouimat|tv | treke: that a french joke ... |
| 01:55.31 | treke | chouimat|tv: an englishman, a frenchman and an american are walking along a beach |
| 01:55.51 | chouimat|tv | k |
| 01:56.22 | treke | they notice a lamp half buried in the sand, and the american kneels down, digs it up, and tries to dust off the dirt |
| 01:56.45 | chouimat|tv | treke: I think I know it ... |
| 01:57.03 | treke | the lamp suddenly starts shaking violently, and out of it pops a power genie who says he will grant them three wishes. |
| 01:57.56 | treke | The american tells the genie, "i wish for eternal fertility for the land of america." The genie without hesitation says, "your wish is granted, never again will a crop fail." |
| 01:58.52 | treke | the frenchman says to the genie, " I wish for a strong wall to surround France and protect it and its people from attack." Once again, the genie doesnt even blink, " your wish is granted" |
| 01:59.10 | treke | the english man asks the genie, " tell me about that wall." |
| 01:59.39 | treke | he genie replies, " it's a sturdy wall, 100 feed think and a mile high. Nothing can get in or out" |
| 01:59.53 | treke | The englishman thinks about it for a second and says, "fill it up with water" |
| 02:00.03 | chouimat|tv | treke: hehe |
| 02:05.58 | TheMasterMind1 | Package oz-base wants to install file /home/agupta/buildroot/output/rootfs/etc/host.conf |
| 02:05.59 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:05.59 | TheMasterMind1 | Package oz-base wants to install file /home/agupta/buildroot/output/rootfs/etc/hosts |
| 02:05.59 | TheMasterMind1 | wtf |
| 02:07.02 | kergoth | you're trying to install an old oz-base. |
| 02:07.04 | kergoth | very old |
| 02:07.09 | kergoth | wipe it |
| 02:08.04 | TheMasterMind1 | bleh |
| 02:09.01 | kergoth | I'm fixing the 'opie crashes and i cant login!' bug |
| 02:09.10 | kergoth | so that when it crashes the keyboard isnt hosed |
| 02:09.18 | kergoth | got on my nerves enough finally |
| 02:09.19 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:10.10 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 02:10.30 | TheMasterMind1 | look ma, i built a kernel and initrd |
| 02:10.32 | TheMasterMind1 | finally.. |
| 02:10.34 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:10.44 | kergoth | man, if that works, i'll be so happy |
| 02:10.48 | kergoth | :) |
| 02:10.54 | kergoth | that ts thing bugged us for so long |
| 02:11.47 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 02:11.57 | TheMasterMind1 | we can party |
| 02:12.02 | kergoth | yeah |
| 02:12.12 | kergoth | and we can put in the battery switch handling and start distributing it |
| 02:12.13 | kergoth | :) |
| 02:12.15 | TheMasterMind1 | he we should like an annual OE conference |
| 02:13.12 | TheMasterMind1 | meet up somewhere and party |
| 02:13.20 | kergoth | yea, thatd be cool |
| 02:13.21 | TheMasterMind1 | and by party i mean work on buildroot |
| 02:13.28 | TheMasterMind1 | mass coding party |
| 02:13.38 | TheMasterMind1 | ;) |
| 02:14.02 | ljp | criminy, itd have to be in Mn |
| 02:14.15 | kergoth | mn? fuck that |
| 02:14.29 | DaJoker | vegas |
| 02:15.17 | ljp | ya, then we could at least get laid |
| 02:15.21 | TheMasterMind1 | hah |
| 02:15.25 | kergoth | lol |
| 02:16.49 | TheMasterMind1 | flashing.. |
| 02:17.07 | JasonNJ | we could do the OE conference in concert with Ottawa Linux Symposium |
| 02:17.18 | TheMasterMind1 | heh do it in MN and we could all crash at kergoth's new house |
| 02:17.31 | chouimat|tv | lol |
| 02:17.38 | TheMasterMind1 | notsonewanymore house |
| 02:17.40 | JasonNJ | yeah, but Ottawa has better strip clubs. |
| 02:17.49 | JasonNJ | and cheap beer. |
| 02:17.58 | TheMasterMind1 | damn, too bad i'm underage |
| 02:17.58 | kergoth | yes, and those are always the priorities |
| 02:18.03 | chouimat|tv | Quebec City too and you can touch .... |
| 02:18.08 | JasonNJ | hey. |
| 02:18.11 | JasonNJ | theres a thought. |
| 02:18.11 | TheMasterMind1 | ohhh |
| 02:18.19 | TheMasterMind1 | whats the age limit in canada? |
| 02:18.28 | JasonNJ | do they even have one? |
| 02:18.30 | TheMasterMind1 | for beer strip clubs and consent |
| 02:18.32 | chouimat|tv | Quebec 18, Ontarion and the rest 19 |
| 02:18.33 | kergoth | heh, never had any problems touching in vegas either.. |
| 02:18.42 | kergoth | but canada works for me |
| 02:19.06 | JasonNJ | OLS in june would be a good time to do it, they have good rates on hotels |
| 02:19.23 | chouimat|tv | JasonNJ: june or july? |
| 02:19.24 | JasonNJ | I can rent an SUV or a van and we can make a day trip to quebec |
| 02:19.30 | JasonNJ | lemme double check |
| 02:19.46 | JasonNJ | July 23-26 |
| 02:19.50 | chouimat|tv | JasonNJ: ottawa - quebec is 5 hour |
| 02:19.59 | JasonNJ | we could come in a day or two before |
| 02:20.11 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 02:20.14 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: no inittab found |
| 02:20.19 | JasonNJ | I thought Ottawa was on the quebec border |
| 02:20.20 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: sysvinit. |
| 02:20.25 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: eithe ryou dont have it, or its old |
| 02:20.32 | TheMasterMind1 | i told it to install it |
| 02:20.41 | TheMasterMind1 | i cleaned and built ozbase |
| 02:20.41 | kergoth | rebuild it |
| 02:20.41 | JasonNJ | http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2003/ |
| 02:20.43 | chouimat|tv | JasonNJ: I though you were speaking of Quebec City |
| 02:20.44 | kergoth | rebuild sysvinit |
| 02:20.46 | kergoth | and modutils |
| 02:20.48 | TheMasterMind1 | hmk |
| 02:21.21 | TheMasterMind1 | jeez, really need to support the switch on the back in .19 |
| 02:21.22 | JasonNJ | http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2003/travel.php |
| 02:21.22 | kergoth | going to have to start pushing our opie patches into cvs again |
| 02:21.24 | JasonNJ | cool. |
| 02:21.35 | JasonNJ | the Les Suites hotels have broadband internet for 10 bucks canadian a night |
| 02:21.40 | JasonNJ | thats like 6 bucks US |
| 02:21.58 | JasonNJ | executive suite is only 189 CAD |
| 02:22.01 | JasonNJ | thats fucking cheap |
| 02:22.02 | TheMasterMind1 | niiice |
| 02:22.03 | kergoth | eh, damn |
| 02:22.11 | JasonNJ | hmm |
| 02:22.14 | JasonNJ | ROAD TRIP! |
| 02:22.18 | chouimat|tv | too expensive for me yet ... |
| 02:22.33 | JasonNJ | I'll let a few people crash in my room if you want |
| 02:22.47 | JasonNJ | long as we dont trash the place, the executive suites are huge in that hotel |
| 02:22.59 | JasonNJ | they have full size couches and stuff |
| 02:23.00 | chouimat|tv | JasonNJ: which hotel? |
| 02:23.09 | JasonNJ | Les Suites |
| 02:23.18 | JasonNJ | in Ottawa |
| 02:23.27 | JasonNJ | I used that during the last OLS |
| 02:23.47 | JasonNJ | two bedroom units for 209 |
| 02:23.50 | Neo|Work | you are a bunch of sad, sad people. :P |
| 02:23.56 | JasonNJ | thats like 70 bucks a person a night |
| 02:24.04 | Neo|Work | feels like it's a bunch of teenage guys drooling around here. :P |
| 02:24.23 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:24.27 | TheMasterMind1 | Warning: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for sysvinit: |
| 02:24.27 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:24.35 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: tinylogin. |
| 02:24.39 | chouimat|tv | JasonNJ: and if you are lucky weed will be legal by then :) |
| 02:24.40 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: rebuild and install tinylogin into the image |
| 02:24.48 | TheMasterMind1 | heh k |
| 02:24.48 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: you'll need util-linux-mount too |
| 02:24.54 | JasonNJ | they are legalizing pot in canada? |
| 02:25.09 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 02:25.22 | chouimat|tv | JasonNJ: they're talking about it, maybe they will decriminilize it |
| 02:25.22 | kergoth | hrm |
| 02:25.41 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: any other crap i probably have old versions of and need to rebuitd? |
| 02:25.44 | kergoth | i used to be that way neo |
| 02:26.13 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: hmmm oz-base, sysvinit, modutils, util-linux, tinylogin, ipkg should be sufficient |
| 02:26.18 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 02:26.20 | TheMasterMind1 | got all those |
| 02:26.23 | chouimat|tv | ljp: hehe |
| 02:26.52 | TheMasterMind1 | no drugs drinking smoking here.. but strip club sounds good |
| 02:27.00 | TheMasterMind1 | heheh |
| 02:27.52 | Neo|Work | I could be single and desperate and still would turn down even the hottest chick if she did drugs or smoked |
| 02:28.10 | Neo|Work | now, if she had tons of cash and was willing to spend it on me, that's a whole other ballpart. ;-) |
| 02:28.26 | chouimat|tv | Neo|Work: hehe |
| 02:28.27 | JasonNJ | neo: aw, whats a little pot |
| 02:28.49 | Neo|Work | stupid, to be with. |
| 02:28.58 | Neo|Work | illegal, wasteful.. uhm. stinky? |
| 02:29.02 | kergoth | heh, i dont mind a chick who does pot once in a while |
| 02:29.02 | Neo|Work | what else? did I mention stupid? |
| 02:29.08 | kergoth | but cigarette smokers, nope |
| 02:29.11 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:29.18 | JasonNJ | I've done plenty of pot and I turned out OK! |
| 02:29.29 | ljp | ya cigs are out |
| 02:29.31 | Neo|Work | JasonNJ: well, that's up for discussion. ;-) |
| 02:29.35 | JasonNJ | really, casual pot smoking is nothing to be worried about |
| 02:29.47 | JasonNJ | a habitual pot smoker I may have a problem with |
| 02:29.47 | chouimat|tv | JasonNJ: they legalized pot for "sick people" and they want to decriminilize it for the rest (small amount) but the senate did a report where the conclusion was " Legalize it man" |
| 02:29.48 | Neo|Work | wtf is the deal here? Can't stand cigarettes but thing pot is ok? where's the world going... |
| 02:29.54 | ljp | sure... ever seen Refer Madness?! |
| 02:30.03 | Neo|Work | the problem is that pot does affect your senses |
| 02:30.20 | JasonNJ | hell yes it does |
| 02:30.20 | kergoth | thats a problem? |
| 02:30.20 | Neo|Work | but people don't "feel" it and believe it doesn't |
| 02:30.20 | kergoth | :) |
| 02:30.41 | Neo|Work | yeah because people smoke pot, get high and feel like driving is smart. |
| 02:30.50 | JasonNJ | well, that is stupid. |
| 02:30.51 | chouimat|tv | Neo|Work: pot calm me down ... or is it the "chicha" |
| 02:30.54 | kergoth | thats stupid. |
| 02:30.57 | kergoth | just as stupid as driving drunk |
| 02:31.01 | kergoth | both affect the senses |
| 02:31.06 | Neo|Work | but if you're drunk you usually notice more |
| 02:31.10 | JasonNJ | the last thing I wanna do when I light up a joint is go drive... |
| 02:31.20 | JasonNJ | I usually order a pizza, chinese food, then I go to sleep. |
| 02:31.25 | kergoth | I notice the affects on me from pot more so than alcohol |
| 02:31.29 | Neo|Work | but again, in the US, people don't get it that a single drink can severely affect your driving abilities even though you "feel" fine |
| 02:31.29 | kergoth | JasonNJ: aha damn right |
| 02:31.31 | JasonNJ | hell I want people to BRING me stuff |
| 02:31.48 | kergoth | ljp: hippie |
| 02:31.54 | chouimat|tv | s/is/his |
| 02:31.54 | ljp | you dont lose complete control like alcohol |
| 02:32.02 | JasonNJ | "hello, yo man, dominos? bring me a pepperoni pizza, no, make it 3, and be quick about it!" |
| 02:32.03 | Neo|Work | it affects you, trust me |
| 02:32.08 | kergoth | JasonNJ: lol |
| 02:32.14 | kergoth | Neo|Work: of course it affects you, but ljp has a point |
| 02:32.40 | ljp | sure it does effect you, but not like alcohol. you dont pass out, you dont completely lose your ability to do things |
| 02:32.46 | chouimat|tv | Neo|Work: true pot affect people and can be dangerous ... just imagine your girlfriend getting the munchies while ... |
| 02:32.46 | TheMasterMind1 | mkfs.jffs2: Skipping '/home/agupta/buildroot/output/rootfs/bin/tinylogin': does not exist! |
| 02:32.47 | TheMasterMind1 | gr |
| 02:32.54 | kergoth | chouimat|tv: haha |
| 02:33.03 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: heh, install tinylogin :) |
| 02:33.04 | TheMasterMind1 | /home/agupta/buildroot/output/staging/i386-linux/bin/update-alternatives: line 104: [: /home/agupta/buildroot/output/rootfs//boot/zImage-*: binary operator expected |
| 02:33.07 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: i did! |
| 02:33.08 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: harmless |
| 02:33.11 | kergoth | uh |
| 02:33.13 | kergoth | no, you didnt :) |
| 02:33.15 | TheMasterMind1 | tinylogin (INSTALL_TINYLOGIN) [N/y] (NEW) y |
| 02:33.17 | kergoth | otherwise you'd have a tinylogin binary |
| 02:33.38 | chouimat|tv | kergoth: and I know it first hand .... |
| 02:33.51 | kergoth | chouimat|tv: ack |
| 02:34.08 | JasonNJ | I have also never seen a person VIOLENT on pot |
| 02:34.14 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:34.15 | kergoth | true that |
| 02:34.23 | Neo|Work | ljp: the fact is that alcohol affects your driving abilities long before you notice |
| 02:34.23 | chouimat|tv | JasonNJ: yup ... |
| 02:34.32 | JasonNJ | "What, did you call me a dick? I LOVE you man!" |
| 02:34.37 | kergoth | Neo|Work: yeah, but ljp was talking about weed |
| 02:34.38 | kergoth | JasonNJ: aha |
| 02:34.42 | kergoth | yep |
| 02:34.49 | JasonNJ | "I just want a hug!" |
| 02:34.52 | ljp | NeoTron: true that |
| 02:34.55 | Neo|Work | kergoth: I know, I'm just saying that because you don't "feel" it much, doesn't mean it's not there |
| 02:34.59 | chouimat|tv | the problem with people driving drunk is they never learn driving drunk |
| 02:35.12 | JasonNJ | Neo: have you ever smoked pot? |
| 02:35.23 | kergoth | the affect is quite different from that of alcohol |
| 02:35.24 | ljp | ummm, most people dont learn driving drunk.. |
| 02:35.25 | Neo|Work | JasonNJ: no and I never plan to. |
| 02:35.32 | kergoth | of course it affects your senses, but differently |
| 02:35.38 | chouimat|tv | ljp: :) |
| 02:36.00 | JasonNJ | ok, well, its very hrd to describe the effect unless you've done it. I can state from experience, alcohol is a much more dangerous drug |
| 02:36.03 | ljp | I have never gotten so stumblinh high on pot to do stupid things and heh, well.. stumble |
| 02:36.25 | JasonNJ | actually, I'll probably be drinking lots of cuban rum |
| 02:36.31 | kergoth | I used to be against drugs.. |
| 02:36.38 | kergoth | but then i started dating a bad girl |
| 02:36.42 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 02:36.43 | JasonNJ | and then kergoth started coding OZ... |
| 02:36.43 | kergoth | who started dealing it |
| 02:36.45 | kergoth | .. |
| 02:36.48 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:37.22 | ljp | living with dealers can be bad |
| 02:37.31 | chouimat|tv | kergoth: I stopped something ago sleeping pills ... feeled a little bit too lonely |
| 02:37.40 | kergoth | ljp: its a little too convenient :) |
| 02:37.57 | JasonNJ | what was she selling, just pot? |
| 02:38.00 | _Psycho | drugs are bad ! |
| 02:38.04 | kergoth | yeah just pot, no biggie |
| 02:38.08 | kergoth | nothing major, thankfully |
| 02:38.11 | JasonNJ | thats nothing |
| 02:38.19 | kergoth | yep |
| 02:38.20 | Neo|Work | http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread9860.shtml |
| 02:38.24 | ljp | drugs arent bad.. you ever had a headache? or a broken bone? |
| 02:38.25 | chouimat|tv | _Psycho: but they're fun too |
| 02:38.34 | JasonNJ | I was actually thinking of growing some pot for personal consumption |
| 02:38.37 | _Psycho | alcohol all the way ! |
| 02:38.38 | kergoth | heh, lots of bad things are fun.. |
| 02:38.38 | JasonNJ | using phototron units |
| 02:38.42 | Neo|Work | so the moral of the story is, DEFINITELY don't drive when stoned and drunk. :P |
| 02:38.48 | ljp | alcohol is a drug |
| 02:39.37 | JasonNJ | lol I just remembered a funny story |
| 02:39.49 | chouimat|tv | grrrr ... I'm out of pot ... |
| 02:39.50 | JasonNJ | my grandfather once put a decal of a cannabis leaf on his car window |
| 02:39.55 | JasonNJ | he thought it was a maple leaf |
| 02:40.00 | kergoth | haha |
| 02:40.10 | JasonNJ | he was driving around with it for a few weeks, I had to explain to him what it was |
| 02:40.16 | JasonNJ | it was one of those cool reflective decals |
| 02:40.20 | kergoth | that had to be an interesting conversation |
| 02:41.04 | chouimat|tv | JasonNJ: one of my ex-wife uncle once get caught with two huge pot plants in the windows of his living room ... he told the police that he though that was nice green plant .... |
| 02:41.23 | kergoth | yeahhh |
| 02:41.37 | kergoth | realll nice |
| 02:41.53 | chouimat|tv | kergoth: the problem is the size of his record :) |
| 02:42.00 | kergoth | ah |
| 02:42.12 | JasonNJ | the OZ mascot should be pingi with bloodshot eyes |
| 02:42.32 | chouimat|tv | JasonNJ: yah! latenight coding .... |
| 02:42.36 | JasonNJ | stoned pinizaurus |
| 02:42.37 | ljp | about 20 years ago, someone planted pot in the window flowser boxes at the Boulder police station |
| 02:42.50 | JasonNJ | lol |
| 02:43.08 | JasonNJ | how long did it take them to figure out what it was? |
| 02:43.09 | ljp | funny thing is, they got really big before anyone noticed what they were |
| 02:43.16 | JasonNJ | lol |
| 02:44.51 | JasonNJ | why do you hang out so late at work |
| 02:45.30 | JasonNJ | these days I smoke once or twice a year |
| 02:45.41 | JasonNJ | only in the company of others |
| 02:45.50 | chouimat|tv | ljp: my mother neighbourg once find about 2 lbs of pot in one of his son room and the twit burned it that night ... don't know why but every body at my mother BBQ was having fun |
| 02:46.01 | JasonNJ | its hard to find decent stuff, let alone a safe source |
| 02:46.31 | chouimat|tv | JasonNJ: I know some here |
| 02:47.11 | ljp | i havent smoked in years |
| 02:47.12 | JasonNJ | I got really messed up the last time I went to jamaica, about 2 years ago |
| 02:47.19 | JasonNJ | I got messed up EVERY night |
| 02:47.19 | ljp | hehehe |
| 02:48.07 | chouimat|tv | ljp: I did last week ... really stuff mixed with egyptian tabac |
| 02:48.07 | JasonNJ | and then as soon as I got back from vacation, the wall street firm I was working for started doing random drug checks and asked me to come in like 2 weeks after I came back from vacation |
| 02:48.22 | chouimat|tv | JasonNJ: ouchj |
| 02:48.33 | JasonNJ | I had to buy those drug flushing kits |
| 02:48.52 | JasonNJ | I passed, but I ended up getting laid off a few months later |
| 02:48.58 | JasonNJ | with about 40 others |
| 02:51.15 | ljp | bummer |
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| 03:26.06 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth`bbl: it isn't working! and it starts spewing crap to my screen after i start opie |
| 03:26.09 | TheMasterMind1 | irda0 not loaded and stuff |
| 03:28.41 | kergoth`bbl | TheMasterMind1: well, does ts_calibrate work? |
| 03:29.09 | TheMasterMind1 | klemme try |
| 03:29.52 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 03:29.53 | TheMasterMind1 | ts_open |
| 03:29.56 | TheMasterMind1 | no such file or direcotry |
| 03:29.58 | kergoth`bbl | ah |
| 03:29.59 | kergoth`bbl | ok |
| 03:30.04 | kergoth`bbl | vi /etc/profile.d/tslib.sh |
| 03:30.12 | kergoth`bbl | is export at hte bottom? |
| 03:30.17 | kergoth`bbl | to export the two variables? |
| 03:30.24 | TheMasterMind1 | ya |
| 03:30.32 | kergoth`bbl | hm, maybe dev detection isnt working for collie on 2.4.19 |
| 03:30.34 | kergoth`bbl | yeah, that must be it |
| 03:30.46 | kergoth`bbl | okay |
| 03:30.50 | TheMasterMind1 | they're set though |
| 03:30.51 | TheMasterMind1 | in my ash |
| 03:30.54 | TheMasterMind1 | to /dev/ts |
| 03:30.54 | kergoth`bbl | to what? |
| 03:30.56 | TheMasterMind1 | and cOLLIE |
| 03:30.58 | kergoth`bbl | aha |
| 03:31.00 | kergoth`bbl | thats the prob |
| 03:31.04 | kergoth`bbl | that event type only works for 2.4.6 |
| 03:31.10 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 03:31.13 | TheMasterMind1 | so what change to |
| 03:31.16 | kergoth`bbl | change the event type to .. hold up |
| 03:32.06 | kergoth`bbl | UCB1x00 |
| 03:32.08 | kergoth`bbl | exactly like that |
| 03:33.19 | TheMasterMind1 | same error |
| 03:33.21 | kergoth`bbl | confirm ts_calibrate works, then try opie |
| 03:33.24 | kergoth`bbl | ts_open? |
| 03:33.26 | TheMasterMind1 | yes |
| 03:33.30 | TheMasterMind1 | /dev/ts is right? |
| 03:33.33 | kergoth`bbl | oh |
| 03:33.34 | kergoth`bbl | no, its not |
| 03:33.35 | kergoth`bbl | :) |
| 03:33.36 | kergoth`bbl | hold on |
| 03:33.48 | TheMasterMind1 | eh no |
| 03:33.50 | TheMasterMind1 | its a symlink |
| 03:33.53 | TheMasterMind1 | to /dev/touchscreen/0 |
| 03:33.55 | TheMasterMind1 | which doesn't exist |
| 03:34.02 | TheMasterMind1 | its /dev/touchscreen/ucb1x00 |
| 03:34.13 | kergoth`bbl | just set TSLIB_TSDEVICE to /dev/touchscreen/ucb1x00 |
| 03:34.16 | kergoth`bbl | fuck the link |
| 03:34.54 | TheMasterMind1 | eh wtf |
| 03:34.56 | TheMasterMind1 | i did |
| 03:35.00 | TheMasterMind1 | my screen is flooding |
| 03:35.05 | TheMasterMind1 | when i run calibrate |
| 03:35.11 | kergoth`bbl | heh |
| 03:35.17 | kergoth`bbl | ts_calibrate? |
| 03:35.20 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 03:35.31 | kergoth`bbl | hm, ts_calibrate >/dev/null 2>&1 maybe? |
| 03:35.39 | TheMasterMind1 | heh ok |
| 03:36.07 | TheMasterMind1 | nope |
| 03:36.12 | kergoth`bbl | whats it doing? |
| 03:36.17 | TheMasterMind1 | how do i ctrlc |
| 03:36.20 | kergoth`bbl | 'flooding' doesnt mean anything to me |
| 03:36.20 | TheMasterMind1 | flooding my screen with some text |
| 03:36.23 | TheMasterMind1 | i can't read it |
| 03:36.23 | kergoth`bbl | calander +c |
| 03:36.24 | TheMasterMind1 | scrolling too fast |
| 03:36.33 | kergoth`bbl | er 2.4.19 |
| 03:36.34 | TheMasterMind1 | not working |
| 03:36.35 | kergoth`bbl | its just fn+c |
| 03:36.35 | TheMasterMind1 | tried it |
| 03:36.38 | TheMasterMind1 | tried that too |
| 03:36.56 | kergoth`bbl | well fn is control.. |
| 03:36.59 | kergoth`bbl | heh |
| 03:37.02 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 03:37.04 | kergoth`bbl | iirc |
| 03:37.08 | kergoth`bbl | i havent looked at the keymap in ages |
| 03:37.08 | TheMasterMind1 | maybe ash changed to not get ctrl_c |
| 03:37.16 | TheMasterMind1 | that might be why itsnot working in console |
| 03:37.17 | TheMasterMind1 | konsole |
| 03:37.31 | kergoth`bbl | nah, ljp thinks he pushed the fix for that one |
| 03:37.38 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 03:37.44 | TheMasterMind1 | grr |
| 03:37.49 | TheMasterMind1 | i think its kernel errors |
| 03:37.55 | TheMasterMind1 | when it tries to access that device |
| 03:38.00 | kergoth`bbl | eh, thats odd |
| 03:38.00 | TheMasterMind1 | something in kernel going boom |
| 03:38.05 | kergoth`bbl | dood, i havent touched that shit in so long |
| 03:38.07 | TheMasterMind1 | but i can't read it |
| 03:38.10 | kergoth`bbl | i'll fuck with it |
| 03:38.12 | TheMasterMind1 | its too fast |
| 03:38.45 | kergoth`bbl | TheMasterMind1: cat you cat < /dev/touchscreen/ucb1x00? |
| 03:38.48 | kergoth`bbl | then tap |
| 03:39.25 | TheMasterMind1 | aha |
| 03:39.27 | TheMasterMind1 | i smart |
| 03:39.31 | kergoth`bbl | ? |
| 03:39.38 | TheMasterMind1 | (ts_print &); sleep 5; killall ts_print |
| 03:39.38 | TheMasterMind1 | =D |
| 03:39.45 | kergoth`bbl | hehe |
| 03:39.47 | TheMasterMind1 | page faults |
| 03:39.52 | kergoth`bbl | page faults? |
| 03:39.53 | kergoth`bbl | hmm |
| 03:39.53 | TheMasterMind1 | "unable to find magic value" |
| 03:39.58 | kergoth`bbl | aha |
| 03:39.59 | kergoth`bbl | ok |
| 03:40.02 | kergoth`bbl | its the collie module |
| 03:40.07 | kergoth`bbl | trying to do its mmap() fun |
| 03:40.19 | kergoth`bbl | but remember, we had the collie module _working_! |
| 03:40.24 | kergoth`bbl | remember, we could use tslib to calibrate |
| 03:40.24 | TheMasterMind1 | hm thats only ts_print though |
| 03:40.27 | kergoth`bbl | just not opie |
| 03:40.27 | TheMasterMind1 | ts_calibrate is different |
| 03:40.35 | TheMasterMind1 | and its not workign with that kill thing |
| 03:40.37 | TheMasterMind1 | darn |
| 03:40.51 | kergoth`bbl | ( ts_calibrate 2>&1 | tee log ) & |
| 03:40.59 | kergoth`bbl | oh, it writes to fb directly.. |
| 03:41.00 | TheMasterMind1 | itsnot output of ts_calibrate |
| 03:41.02 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 03:41.20 | TheMasterMind1 | the cat < thing worked |
| 03:41.22 | TheMasterMind1 | nothing happen |
| 03:41.23 | TheMasterMind1 | it didn't die |
| 03:41.31 | kergoth`bbl | see any chars when you tap? |
| 03:41.37 | kergoth`bbl | weird stuff |
| 03:41.39 | kergoth`bbl | garbage |
| 03:41.53 | kergoth`bbl | here, just to make sure the kernel is happy |
| 03:41.56 | TheMasterMind1 | nope |
| 03:41.57 | kergoth`bbl | comment out the collie module in ts.conf |
| 03:42.30 | TheMasterMind1 | module_raw collie xysmap |
| 03:42.32 | TheMasterMind1 | comment it out |
| 03:42.34 | kergoth`bbl | ya |
| 03:42.35 | TheMasterMind1 | with # ? |
| 03:42.37 | kergoth`bbl | yea |
| 03:42.53 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 03:43.24 | TheMasterMind1 | ok now what |
| 03:43.29 | kergoth`bbl | try a tslib app |
| 03:43.39 | kergoth`bbl | ts_print or ts_calibrate |
| 03:43.43 | TheMasterMind1 | hey |
| 03:43.44 | TheMasterMind1 | it works |
| 03:43.50 | kergoth`bbl | okay, whew |
| 03:43.55 | kergoth`bbl | so its just the collie module being a bitch |
| 03:43.56 | kergoth`bbl | i'll fuck with it |
| 03:44.09 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 03:44.24 | TheMasterMind1 | so close |
| 03:44.25 | TheMasterMind1 | and yet so far |
| 03:44.36 | kergoth`bbl | well |
| 03:44.40 | kergoth`bbl | we're just as close as we used to be |
| 03:44.41 | kergoth`bbl | :) |
| 03:44.44 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
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| 04:01.48 | chouimat|tv | kergoth`bbl: someone is flooding #openzaurus |
| 04:03.15 | fishy | lol |
| 04:03.46 | chouimat|tv | :) |
| 04:13.36 | kergoth | chouimat|tv: i was cooking ramen.. |
| 04:13.39 | kergoth | didnt notice :) |
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| 04:19.43 | chouimat|tv | kergoth: I'm on hot stuff this week ... |
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| 04:42.04 | billytwowilly | kergoth: things going better now? |
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| 04:43.27 | kergoth | a bit |
| 04:43.54 | billytwowilly | kergoth: that's good. I hope you figure out that qt problem that was bugging you. |
| 04:44.13 | billytwowilly | kergoth: I just did some spring cleaning. I took a whole garbage bag of crap out of my room... |
| 04:44.14 | kergoth | its much happier now |
| 04:44.17 | kergoth | nice |
| 04:45.00 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: yo |
| 04:45.02 | billytwowilly | didn't beat last years spring cleaning though. I took 4 garbage bags out that time;) This is all in a ten by about 15 foot room too, with a small closet. |
| 04:47.53 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: an ipkg change just broke our packages script :) |
| 04:48.18 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: for some weird ass reason ipkg now says 'install prefer installed' instead of 'install ok installed' in status.. altering packages to be less picky |
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| 04:53.45 | gaurdian | new nmap out, going to compile for the arm and see if it stops the bus errors |
| 04:53.59 | kergoth | whats the version? i'll update the OZ buildsystem |
| 04:54.05 | gaurdian | 3.2 |
| 04:54.07 | kergoth | k |
| 04:54.20 | gaurdian | let me see if it compiles and runs without bus errors first |
| 04:54.23 | kergoth | k |
| 04:54.31 | gaurdian | no use going to that trouble if it doesnt |
| 05:01.07 | kergoth | ahaha |
| 05:01.24 | kergoth | my opie started in a little 320x240 window in the center of hte 640x480 display :) |
| 05:01.38 | kergoth | stupid thing |
| 05:01.41 | kergoth | hmm |
| 05:01.46 | kergoth | calibrate didnt do that, only opie itself |
| 05:01.51 | kergoth | interrresstingg |
| 05:09.25 | NeoTron | kergoth: gotten opie to work yet then? |
| 05:09.35 | NeoTron | actuall, I should just flash my zaurus with it |
| 05:10.45 | kergoth | hrm |
| 05:12.06 | gaurdian | kergoth , what is libstdc in ? |
| 05:12.22 | kergoth | we dont have a libstdc++ package handy |
| 05:12.25 | kergoth | grab one from familiar |
| 05:12.49 | gaurdian | ok...nmap compiled but missing this library libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 |
| 05:13.34 | gaurdian | I would get that lib where ? |
| 05:14.14 | kergoth | .. |
| 05:14.18 | kergoth | ipkgfind.handhelds.org |
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| 05:19.39 | gaurdian | ok, the new nmap works but you need the packager from the familiar feed |
| 05:19.44 | kergoth | k |
| 05:19.47 | kergoth | I'll update our buildsystem |
| 05:19.57 | kergoth | wtf, the opie launcher cant start calibrate.. |
| 05:19.58 | kergoth | but.. |
| 05:20.07 | kergoth | calibrate gets compiled into the binary of the launcher! |
| 05:20.09 | kergoth | wtf? |
| 05:20.25 | gaurdian | and no bus error |
| 05:21.13 | gaurdian | heh contributed to my first OS project :) see, I aint all that bad :) |
| 05:21.49 | kergoth | hm, and something is hardcoding our resolution to 320x240 |
| 05:21.52 | kergoth | hmm |
| 05:22.17 | kergoth | ah |
| 05:22.26 | kergoth | its acting like QT_QWS_EBX didnt get defined |
| 05:23.14 | gaurdian | libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2_2.95.4-100407-fam1_arm.ipk <<-- is the package with that library |
| 05:23.21 | kergoth | k |
| 05:23.39 | kergoth | ah ha! |
| 05:23.45 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:23.51 | kergoth | whew |
| 05:23.53 | gaurdian | works like a charm, just ran the same scans that would crash the other one |
| 05:23.57 | kergoth | i was worried it was something tough |
| 05:24.00 | kergoth | great |
| 05:25.46 | gaurdian | also, fwiw, I compiled that on that ipaq site you mentioned a few days ago |
| 05:25.54 | kergoth | cool |
| 05:26.11 | gaurdian | yea, been useing that a bit lately....its a nice service |
| 05:26.23 | kergoth | indeed |
| 05:26.35 | kergoth | compiles are too slow for my tastes though, i get impatient |
| 05:26.36 | kergoth | :) |
| 05:26.53 | chouimat | kergoth: buy more cpu |
| 05:27.05 | kergoth | chouimat: talking about the skiffcluster |
| 05:27.07 | gaurdian | yea well...it works for me |
| 05:27.08 | kergoth | chouimat: native |
| 05:27.12 | kergoth | chouimat: slowww |
| 05:27.14 | kergoth | chouimat: ;) |
| 05:27.37 | gaurdian | well, considering I dont always have access to my X-Compiler |
| 05:28.15 | gaurdian | I compiled up ncftp also.... |
| 05:29.01 | kergoth | ah nice |
| 05:29.06 | kergoth | thatd be a good one to add to the feeds |
| 05:29.10 | kergoth | i'll add it to our todo |
| 05:29.19 | gaurdian | Yea.....compiled with no probs ythere and runs great |
| 05:29.22 | kergoth | nice |
| 05:29.24 | kergoth | we need sudo too |
| 05:29.25 | chouimat | kergoth: skiffcluster? |
| 05:29.32 | kergoth | ibot: skiffcluster |
| 05:29.33 | | hmm... skiffcluster is at http://handhelds.org/projects/skiffcluster.html |
| 05:29.34 | kergoth | chouimat: ^^ |
| 05:29.42 | gaurdian | let me give sudo a shot now.... |
| 05:31.15 | chouimat | kergoth: ok |
| 05:35.04 | gaurdian | compiles and runs fine far as I can see |
| 05:39.53 | gaurdian | kergoth , is there a VNC client for the Z ? |
| 05:40.01 | fishy | yes there is |
| 05:40.01 | gaurdian | I know there is a vnc server |
| 05:40.08 | fishy | theres both |
| 05:40.09 | gaurdian | where fishy |
| 05:40.14 | fishy | !explain killefiz |
| 05:40.19 | fishy | ohh |
| 05:40.23 | gaurdian | I have been there |
| 05:40.24 | fishy | !ibot: killefiz |
| 05:40.28 | fishy | sdfe4[0q5 |
| 05:40.31 | kergoth | gaurdian: its in the oz feeds also |
| 05:40.35 | kergoth | gaurdian: opie as a vnc client |
| 05:40.35 | gaurdian | I know what and where that is |
| 05:40.45 | kergoth | ibot: tell fishy about help |
| 05:40.55 | fishy | lol |
| 05:42.27 | gaurdian | ok, hmm..... |
| 05:46.20 | gaurdian | wonder if irssi would compile |
| 05:46.50 | kergoth | we have that in our buildroot |
| 05:46.54 | kergoth | just isnt in the feeds yet |
| 05:47.00 | gaurdian | ahh ok |
| 05:48.05 | gaurdian | well, I am a BitchX fan mostly |
| 05:48.19 | kergoth | ah, i used to be too |
| 05:55.15 | gaurdian | heh, a nmap scan with the -O option tends to suck mem :) |
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| 06:00.52 | kergoth | hey treke|home |
| 06:01.03 | treke|home | yo |
| 06:03.46 | treke|home | how goes it? |
| 06:04.02 | kergoth | not bad, hacking on the c700 |
| 06:04.13 | kergoth | merging some of our local opie patches into cvs |
| 06:04.19 | kergoth | you? |
| 06:04.31 | treke|home | doing well |
| 06:04.38 | treke|home | thinks are starting to shape up |
| 06:05.24 | kergoth | nice |
| 06:06.14 | treke|home | trying a game of ut2k3 while installing in vmware to test performance :) |
| 06:14.41 | redfenix | kergoth: what do I need to do to get a zImage and initrd.bin out of buildroot? |
| 06:14.53 | kergoth | make |
| 06:14.56 | kergoth | make image_menuconfig |
| 06:14.59 | kergoth | *pick stuff* |
| 06:15.00 | kergoth | make image |
| 06:15.13 | redfenix | kergoth: ah, make image... thanks. |
| 06:15.22 | kergoth | redfenix: read docs/* |
| 06:16.00 | kergoth | man the opie cvs checkout is flying |
| 06:16.10 | kergoth | handhelds.org get more bandwidth or something? |
| 06:16.42 | redfenix | kergoth: ah... in docs/BUILD ... didn't look there, just looked at INSTALL and stuff. |
| 06:17.01 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
| 06:17.08 | kergoth | night chouimat|Zzzz |
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| 06:20.16 | redfenix | nite. |
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| 09:06.21 | kergoth | aha |
| 09:06.28 | kergoth | i wiped and rebuilt opie _4_ times |
| 09:06.34 | kergoth | before i realized i hadnt updated the cvsdate |
| 09:06.39 | kergoth | so it was pulling an old tree over and over |
| 09:08.05 | kergoth | i wonder if thats a sign i should go to bed |
| 09:10.35 | tronical | hehe |
| 09:14.00 | kergoth | aman tried it earlier |
| 09:14.07 | kergoth | and my collie module freaked and page faulted |
| 09:14.13 | tronical | oh :} |
| 09:14.16 | kergoth | the same module that you and i tested and confirmed _worked_ back then |
| 09:14.18 | kergoth | so i dunno what changed |
| 09:14.24 | kergoth | I'll look into it |
| 09:14.39 | tronical | yeah, /me remembers (it worked) |
| 09:14.57 | kergoth | yea, even ts_calibrate + ts_test worked, just not opie |
| 09:15.03 | kergoth | i'll dig tomorrow |
| 09:15.05 | kergoth | er, today |
| 09:15.06 | kergoth | whatever |
| 09:15.10 | tronical | :) |
| 09:22.18 | kergoth | well, the qt/e tslib patch is behaving perfectly in general |
| 09:22.23 | kergoth | works good on the c700 |
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| 11:01.31 | Piete | heya kergoth |
| 11:01.37 | kergoth | hey |
| 11:02.27 | Piete | argh.. I just spilled water all over myself.. |
| 11:03.04 | yeiazel | yeah ! wet t-shirt time ? |
| 11:03.42 | Piete | hahah, beleive me, you don't want to see *that* :P |
| 11:04.07 | yeiazel | :)) |
| 11:04.40 | pb_ | kergoth: crumbs, bit early for you isn't it? |
| 11:05.30 | kergoth | s/early/later/ |
| 11:05.33 | kergoth | er late |
| 11:05.42 | pb_ | ah. heh. |
| 11:06.23 | kergoth | damnit I really want to get this working |
| 11:06.32 | kergoth | I hate leaving something in a half completed state, you know? |
| 11:06.32 | kergoth | heh |
| 11:06.43 | Piete | hehe, we just thought with the "kergoth is now known as kergoth`zzz" and all that you went to sleep :P |
| 11:06.53 | kergoth | well, i was.. |
| 11:07.04 | pb_ | kergoth: what ya working on? |
| 11:07.07 | kergoth | then i thought of something to try |
| 11:07.13 | kergoth | the c700 opie support |
| 11:07.23 | kergoth | keyboard is mostly done, and ts works, but there are quirks |
| 11:07.32 | kergoth | liek the right side of the screen, theres a silkscreened buttonbar |
| 11:08.06 | pb_ | aha |
| 11:08.28 | kergoth | so the ts digitizer goes outside the visable lcd |
| 11:08.35 | kergoth | and qt/e is freaking out on me |
| 11:09.08 | kergoth | taps on the far right of the visable lcd are registering as taps about 40 pixels to the left |
| 11:09.11 | kergoth | for no apparent reason |
| 11:09.22 | kergoth | quite annoying. |
| 11:09.55 | kergoth | hmm |
| 11:11.21 | kergoth | Now I'm assuming mallum didnt run into this when he started hacking with tinyx, so it must be something qt/e is doing to fuck with the values |
| 11:11.34 | kergoth | also, tslib's test apps work flawlessly. |
| 11:11.37 | kergoth | must be in qt/e somewhere |
| 11:15.18 | Piete | good luck kergoth :) |
| 11:32.18 | kergoth`zzz | later |
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| 11:45.34 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth`zzz: |
| 11:45.38 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 11:45.39 | TheMasterMind1 | wtf |
| 11:45.47 | TheMasterMind1 | you just went to sleep |
| 11:45.52 | TheMasterMind1 | i just fucking woke up |
| 11:46.39 | schurig | TheMasterMind1: Hi! There is one more bug in ipkg |
| 11:46.48 | pb_ | ah, the last bug! |
| 11:46.50 | schurig | TheMasterMind1: spelling error, offline_root became ofline_root |
| 11:46.59 | Piete | pb_: you will *never* find the last bug :P |
| 11:47.55 | schurig | TheMasterMind1: also, "ipkg -o /tftpboot/ramses2 install xxx ; echo $?" returns 0 when package xxx does not exist, it should return some error value |
| 11:48.47 | schurig | TheMasterMind1: hmm, I just saw that the ipkg-x86/Makefile for OE has a CVSdate of 20030318, so that might already be fixed ... |
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| 14:37.47 | numatrix | anybody around? Someone I work with has a pretec card and I built him the ipk from the buildroot that was supposed to fix the problem, and he says he still can't get it to work. |
| 14:38.47 | schurig | I'm around |
| 14:40.52 | numatrix | Sourceofge search sucks. |
| 14:41.13 | numatrix | schurig: Here's a question then; any idea how to get the manfid from a card? |
| 14:41.23 | pb_ | cardctl ident, usually |
| 14:41.28 | numatrix | schurig: I'm thinking maybe my friend's pretec card has a different manfid. |
| 14:41.32 | numatrix | pb_: muchas gracias |
| 14:45.27 | TheMasterMind1 | pretec wifi/ |
| 14:48.57 | TheMasterMind1 | who's bflong |
| 14:49.01 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:49.36 | TheMasterMind1 | bipolar_nothere: hello? |
| 14:54.02 | schurig | TheMasterMind1: did you read my 2 cents on ipkg? |
| 14:54.23 | TheMasterMind1 | yea its fixed |
| 14:54.25 | TheMasterMind1 | mrproper ipkg |
| 14:54.39 | schurig | TheMasterMind1: thanks |
| 14:54.43 | TheMasterMind1 | np |
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| 15:02.25 | schurig | TheMasterMind1: sure? I did a CVS co without a date and "build/ipkg-x86/C/ipkg list 2>&1 | head -1" gives "ipkg_conf_set_option: Unrecognized option: offline_root=/tftpboot" |
| 15:03.37 | schurig | my /etc/ipkg.conf on my x86 has "option offline_root /tftpboot" at the end |
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| 15:17.10 | treke|ho1e | morning schurig |
| 15:17.17 | schurig | moin! |
| 15:17.26 | schurig | (4:17pm here) |
| 15:17.34 | treke|ho1e | hehe :) |
| 15:17.41 | chouimat | hi treke|ho1e |
| 15:18.32 | treke|ho1e | schurig: just curious, is moin a reall word, or is it just slang? |
| 15:19.33 | schurig | treke|ho1e: it's slang. Northern german slang for "good morning". Originally, that is. But they say it at every time. |
| 15:19.58 | treke|ho1e | cool |
| 15:23.32 | ljp_work | they will probably outlaw slang here in the us |
| 15:24.25 | chouimat | ljp_work: and pass a law like the one they want to pass here: The law that tell people when they're allowed to go to pee |
| 15:24.51 | bipolar_nothere | TheMasterMind1: I'm just now leaving for work. need something? |
| 15:25.00 | ljp_work | "sir, can I see your permit fopr that thing?" |
| 15:25.23 | treke|ho1e | "I'm going to have to confiscate it" |
| 15:26.13 | TheMasterMind1 | bipolar_nothere: ipkg in unstable needs to be updated |
| 15:26.17 | chouimat | " according to your permit you're allowed to do that between 4h14am and 4h17am" |
| 15:27.11 | bipolar_nothere | TheMasterMind1: I'll do that as soon as I get to the office. |
| 15:29.26 | TheMasterMind1 | sounds good |
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| 16:01.43 | ljp_work | time for some van 'ungettin stuck in more than a foot snow and slush' bbl |
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| 16:06.06 | bipolar | TheMasterMind1: I just uploaded ipkg built yesterday. If you need a newer one let me know. I'll be doing a completly fresh build today. |
| 16:06.37 | yeiazel | I need a suggestion |
| 16:07.29 | yeiazel | I've got a 256 MB SD card, want to install packages on it. Is it better to keep it as is, and select 'sd' when installing, or to make links as explained in the FAQ, to install packages in 'root' ? |
| 16:07.50 | bipolar | yeiazel: use ipkg to install to SD. |
| 16:08.23 | yeiazel | and the fatal question : why ? because it's cleaner ? |
| 16:09.14 | bipolar | yeiazel: yes. and if you reflash your Z, you only need to run ipkg-link mount /mnt/card and all your apps are back. |
| 16:10.19 | lsmith | bipolar: i am getting some odd errors when running ipkg upgrade from unstable |
| 16:10.30 | yeiazel | bipolar: ok |
| 16:10.33 | lsmith | konquorer cant upgrade because of permission problems |
| 16:10.39 | XavierXeon | if you have /opt /home and /root moved to the sd card you need to make youtr own initrd.bin when reflashing |
| 16:10.46 | lsmith | fbvncserver says it has been replaced by fbvncserver |
| 16:11.10 | lsmith | and another module has a failed dependecy on some kernel version |
| 16:11.25 | lsmith | do you need a detailed report or is this known? |
| 16:11.32 | bipolar | lsmith: there is some sillyness going on there. I'll look into it. |
| 16:11.49 | lsmith | i could send you one tonight (dont have my cradle at work) |
| 16:11.54 | yeiazel | where is xmms !? I need xmms !!! ;) |
| 16:11.58 | bipolar | lsmith: If you could email me the details, that would be great. |
| 16:12.01 | lsmith | k |
| 16:12.11 | lsmith | yeiazel: have you tried the version from zsi? |
| 16:12.22 | bipolar | yeiazel: I did not build it. I was told it required X... |
| 16:12.41 | bipolar | yeiazel: or is this a diffrent version? |
| 16:13.34 | yeiazel | X ? I don't think it's the version for X |
| 16:13.57 | yeiazel | lsmith: I will, but it would be cool to have it in the official feeds |
| 16:14.07 | lsmith | of course |
| 16:14.14 | lsmith | i am pretty sure i saw it on the todo list |
| 16:14.19 | yeiazel | :) |
| 16:14.45 | yeiazel | it was just to let you know that one more person needs it ;) |
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| 16:15.28 | lsmith | you do know that kergoth is a violent man? :-) |
| 16:16.00 | yeiazel | I know |
| 16:16.02 | kergoth | aww shucks |
| 16:16.04 | kergoth | ~kill lsmith |
| 16:16.06 | | ACTION slits lsmith's throat |
| 16:16.16 | lsmith | correction ibot is :-) |
| 16:16.54 | kergoth | okay, time to figure out why opie+qt/e is being a bitch |
| 16:17.19 | icefox | Pepsi CEO's Wife Buys Coke When She's Mad At Him |
| 16:17.20 | icefox | haha |
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| 17:27.29 | bipolar | kergoth: are there any reasons why I should wait to build a new feed? any changes coming shortly? |
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| 17:37.35 | bipolar | treke_: hiya |
| 17:37.47 | treke_ | mornin |
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| 17:40.01 | bipolar | TheMasterMind1: were you able to upgrade ipkg? |
| 17:40.31 | TheMasterMind1 | bipolar: hmm? |
| 17:40.33 | TheMasterMind1 | bipolar: the packages file doesn't have permissions |
| 17:40.35 | TheMasterMind1 | so i didn't |
| 17:40.37 | TheMasterMind1 | if you can chmod it |
| 17:40.39 | TheMasterMind1 | i will |
| 17:40.48 | bipolar | huh? thats strange... |
| 17:41.05 | TheMasterMind1 | its 611 |
| 17:41.44 | bipolar | TheMasterMind1: thats readable by everyone though... right? |
| 17:42.28 | bipolar | TheMasterMind1: I can open it via web browser here. |
| 17:42.34 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 17:42.35 | bipolar | TheMasterMind1: what error are you getting? |
| 17:42.37 | TheMasterMind1 | i need to write to it |
| 17:42.53 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 17:42.58 | TheMasterMind1 | did you update ipkg in unstable? |
| 17:42.59 | bipolar | TheMasterMind1: oh... Are you uploading something? |
| 17:43.08 | bipolar | TheMasterMind1: yes, I updated the ipkg |
| 17:43.11 | TheMasterMind1 | ah ok |
| 17:43.13 | TheMasterMind1 | i thought you wanted me to do it |
| 17:43.16 | TheMasterMind1 | thats fine then |
| 17:43.17 | TheMasterMind1 | thanks |
| 17:43.17 | kergoth | ~lart bipolar for not setting his umask properly |
| 17:43.32 | bipolar | I uploaded the ipkg I built yesterday. |
| 17:43.45 | bipolar | ~lart kergoth for doing the same thing |
| 17:43.51 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:44.17 | bipolar | :) |
| 17:45.06 | ljp_work | just dont strip kernel modules, ok? |
| 17:45.16 | TheMasterMind1 | why not |
| 17:45.27 | ljp_work | ask kergoth |
| 17:45.55 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:45.57 | bipolar | does buildroot strip kernel modules by default? |
| 17:46.07 | kergoth | fuck no |
| 17:46.11 | bipolar | good |
| 17:46.15 | kergoth | uh, kernel modules are useless when stripped |
| 17:46.18 | kergoth | that'd be pretty stupid |
| 17:46.22 | kergoth | :) |
| 17:46.22 | bipolar | heh |
| 17:46.38 | kergoth | technically buildroot is pretty stupid about stripping. it does what rpm does |
| 17:46.44 | kergoth | strips anything thats executable *g* |
| 17:46.44 | ljp_work | hmm, I wonder if anyone has ever stripped kernel modules, eh? |
| 17:46.53 | kergoth | someone should update it to obey file type magic |
| 17:46.56 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:46.59 | kergoth | what version was that? |
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| 17:47.06 | kergoth | 1.x or 2.x |
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| 17:48.46 | bipolar | ok... file permissons are now 664 on the unstable feed :) |
| 17:49.43 | *** mode/#openembedded [+o TheMasterMind1] by ChanServ |
| 17:50.48 | kergoth | yay |
| 17:51.03 | TheMasterMind1 | this stupid guy the other day way saying linux sucks "because its going away from unix standards" |
| 17:51.10 | TheMasterMind1 | with color ls and stuff |
| 17:51.18 | bipolar | lol |
| 17:51.19 | TheMasterMind1 | and i'm like wtf, do you have any clue what GNU stands for |
| 17:52.37 | troffasky | TheMasterMind1: can you furnish with an exact quote? I'd love to have that kind of genius in my .sig |
| 17:52.38 | chouimat | kergoth: can you send a email to chouimat@videotron.ca, just for testing purpose |
| 17:54.17 | ljp_work | ya, I hate color ls, it makes it too easy to distinguish files and stuff |
| 17:54.51 | kergoth | chouimat: k |
| 17:55.14 | chouimat | ljp_work: turn it off then :) |
| 17:55.34 | TheMasterMind1 | troffasky: nope, no logs.. sorry |
| 17:55.51 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: any luck with that tslib stuff? |
| 17:56.28 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: was playing on my c700, didnt try 2.4.19 |
| 17:56.43 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: found a really annooying bug with the tS handling in qt/e on my c700, its driving me nuts |
| 17:57.43 | chouimat | ok isp mail server is down |
| 17:57.50 | chouimat | again |
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| 18:02.38 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: yea i read aboutthat |
| 18:02.56 | kergoth | so I'm determined to find this bug |
| 18:02.59 | kergoth | then i'll hack on my 5500 some |
| 18:03.50 | treke_ | kergoth: how goes the opie port? |
| 18:04.06 | kergoth | well, it runs |
| 18:04.15 | kergoth | found like 42 different bugs related to the larger display |
| 18:04.17 | kergoth | but.. |
| 18:04.18 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:04.22 | treke_ | ha |
| 18:04.48 | treke_ | all of the opie apps probably need the 640x480 flagg added to their .desktops |
| 18:04.51 | kergoth | stuck on this TS quirk atmm |
| 18:04.55 | kergoth | nah, they run in 640x480 fine |
| 18:05.03 | kergoth | but some use hardcoded bits instead of layouts |
| 18:05.04 | treke_ | oh? |
| 18:05.10 | treke_ | hehe |
| 18:05.11 | kergoth | so they dont scale properly |
| 18:05.16 | ljp_work | ya |
| 18:05.21 | kergoth | and our icons are too low rez, they look like shit scaled up in 640 |
| 18:05.21 | ljp_work | like mediaplayer |
| 18:05.32 | kergoth | basically opie looks crappy |
| 18:05.33 | kergoth | but |
| 18:05.35 | kergoth | qtopia looked worse |
| 18:05.37 | kergoth | so its all good |
| 18:05.48 | treke_ | and opie will eventually get fixed |
| 18:05.51 | ljp_work | you can try this all out with qvfb |
| 18:05.51 | kergoth | yep |
| 18:06.15 | kergoth | first thing i want |
| 18:06.25 | kergoth | is a launcher settings option to disable background tiling |
| 18:06.35 | ljp_work | I reckon I might be persuaded to get my apps looking better for larger displays |
| 18:06.50 | kergoth | mickeyl: you like my fix the broken keyboard hack eh? ;) |
| 18:06.52 | ljp_work | someone needs to shoot me with iunspiration |
| 18:06.59 | treke_ | ~shoot ljp_work |
| 18:07.01 | | ACTION shoots his ionized meson gun at ljp_work |
| 18:07.08 | kergoth | er |
| 18:07.16 | kergoth | ibot: no, shoot $nick is <action> shoots $nick in the head. |
| 18:07.17 | | kergoth: okay |
| 18:07.23 | treke_ | ~shoot ljp_work |
| 18:07.25 | | ACTION shoots ljp_work in the head. |
| 18:07.25 | kergoth | I like the deaths simple, to the point |
| 18:07.29 | treke_ | much better |
| 18:07.29 | kergoth | none of this fancy meson gun crap |
| 18:07.31 | mickeyl | kergoth: hehe, yep... however, that was before I read you 2nd commit :-D |
| 18:07.37 | kergoth | mickeyl: hehe |
| 18:07.49 | treke_ | yup. nothing like the good ole fashion lead allergy |
| 18:08.08 | ljp_work | vercel has some patches related to the landscape mode screen |
| 18:08.18 | kergoth | ljp_work: we should get OE on the vercel |
| 18:08.33 | treke_ | kergoth: for all two of them that exist? :) |
| 18:08.39 | ljp_work | hehehe |
| 18:08.41 | kergoth | i added the tuxscreen kernel last night, so we can fold in all the patches and nifty bits from the tux and uclibc buildroots |
| 18:09.12 | ljp_work | I need to get my vercel fired back up and the keyboard driver reverted |
| 18:09.47 | ljp_work | I emailed Brett at lineo a week ago about vercel. no reply |
| 18:09.55 | kergoth | s/lineo/metroworks/ |
| 18:09.59 | kergoth | does he still work there? :) |
| 18:10.05 | ljp_work | dunno |
| 18:10.09 | ljp_work | I assumed so |
| 18:10.23 | kergoth | hey! i havent larted lineo yet today |
| 18:10.24 | kergoth | ~lart lineo |
| 18:10.29 | kergoth | now i feel better |
| 18:10.34 | ljp_work | last I talked to him was after Tim got laid off |
| 18:10.53 | ljp_work | best to make that a cron job |
| 18:11.00 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:11.10 | kergoth | no, that wouldnt make me feel better |
| 18:11.19 | kergoth | I need to have the personal touch of issuing the larting myself, you know? |
| 18:11.20 | icefox | hmmm http://www.vercel.com/ still works |
| 18:11.26 | kergoth | not that cold, impersonal cron'd lart |
| 18:12.11 | chouimat | kergoth: that sound sexy |
| 18:12.17 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:12.21 | kergoth | decent industrial band |
| 18:12.32 | icefox | You can listen to thunder after lightening and tell how close you came to |
| 18:12.32 | icefox | getting hit. If you don't hear it you got hit, so never mind. |
| 18:12.32 | kergoth | hm, warmi's zsurface class is pretty damn cool |
| 18:12.36 | ljp_work | only thing asbout dev for the vercel, I have to boot up redhat for the lineo bsp thingy |
| 18:12.53 | chouimat | ljp_work: crap |
| 18:13.07 | kergoth | heh, is lineo's bsp as much of mess as i think it is? |
| 18:13.09 | chouimat | ljp_work: install redhat in vmware :) |
| 18:13.35 | ljp_work | actually, their dev thing is quite nice |
| 18:13.51 | kergoth | really/ |
| 18:13.55 | ljp_work | except you need redhat |
| 18:14.02 | kergoth | thats a big negative |
| 18:14.03 | kergoth | :) |
| 18:14.17 | ljp_work | its a bit like the oe build, except with a gui, and more options and such |
| 18:14.20 | chouimat | guys one word: VMWARE |
| 18:14.30 | ljp_work | Tim had to working with debian I heard |
| 18:14.57 | ljp_work | but it wont install on gentoo (although it works once installed) or mandrake at all |
| 18:15.01 | kergoth | cool. I'm betting the new OE infrastructure will kick its ass, and be GPL |
| 18:15.02 | kergoth | :D |
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| 18:15.21 | ljp_work | perhaps |
| 18:15.21 | chouimat | kergoth: any work on that front? |
| 18:15.30 | kergoth | chouimat: not much. schurig has been busy and so have I |
| 18:15.45 | kergoth | I need to find some time to hash out some more of the implementation details |
| 18:16.05 | ljp_work | maybe I will go home early and dust off my vercel, and find that old keyboard driver |
| 18:16.18 | chouimat | kergoth: ok ... my gui stuff for my bsd projects are getting a good shape ... |
| 18:16.43 | kergoth | cool |
| 18:16.48 | ljp_work | bastards refused to send me the new keyboard |
| 18:17.05 | chouimat | kergoth: If I have time I will do a gideon <--> buildroot bridge |
| 18:17.35 | ljp_work | I'll take some screenies of the Lineo bsp wizard thingy |
| 18:17.53 | chouimat | ljp_work: they use which widget? |
| 18:18.22 | ljp_work | hmmm, cant remember off ahnd, |
| 18:18.31 | ljp_work | gtk or qt :) |
| 18:19.09 | chouimat | ljp_work: ok ... ecos use wxwindows :( |
| 18:19.26 | ljp_work | I let you know once I get back home |
| 18:21.53 | ljp_work | kergoth is that 32 bit display? |
| 18:22.06 | kergoth | is what 32bit display? |
| 18:22.22 | ljp_work | c700 |
| 18:22.50 | ljp_work | 32bit color that is |
| 18:23.04 | kergoth | dunno off the top of my head |
| 18:23.08 | mickeyl | 16 bit IIRC |
| 18:23.50 | ljp_work | does your background tile on the c700? |
| 18:24.05 | kergoth | yes, it tiles |
| 18:24.09 | mickeyl | d'oh! someone fscked up packages/fbvncserver/fbvncserver-0.3.patch |
| 18:24.12 | kergoth | we need a launcher settings option to disable the tiling |
| 18:24.18 | kergoth | mickeyl: er? |
| 18:24.38 | ljp_work | eeegad, the opie menu icon looks like crappo |
| 18:24.39 | kergoth | whats wrongw ith the patch? |
| 18:24.41 | mickeyl | hmm.... it's no longer a patch file but a depends file |
| 18:24.43 | kergoth | ljp_work: yes, ikt does |
| 18:24.54 | kergoth | mickeyl: ahah wtf? |
| 18:25.31 | kergoth | mickeyl: oops :) |
| 18:25.39 | ljp_work | maybe we need different iconsets |
| 18:26.29 | kergoth | probably |
| 18:26.51 | kergoth | mickeyl: lol.. i cant figure out how that happened |
| 18:27.06 | mickeyl | kergoth: hehe... strange things happen... |
| 18:27.07 | ljp_work | wow, there's enough realestate for advancedfm to have side by side lists |
| 18:27.43 | mewyn | stealin' stealin', stealin' a car for moe. da dah da da dah da dah da da dah, insurance fraud today! |
| 18:29.18 | kergoth | hey, nice to see schurig doing ramses updates to adapt to all the shit i keep changing |
| 18:29.21 | kergoth | *g* |
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| 18:32.19 | mewyn | http://msnbc.com/news/870749.asp?0cv=CA01&cp1=1 this is gonna be an easy war |
| 18:37.08 | treke_ | hmmm. wonder how safe 03 is on glibc :) |
| 18:37.16 | treke_ | er -O3 |
| 18:37.29 | kergoth | heh, dont do that |
| 18:37.31 | kergoth | use -O2 |
| 18:37.44 | treke_ | hehe. bad mojo? |
| 18:37.50 | kergoth | -O3 it'll make its own decisions on inlining instead of following your inline keywords |
| 18:37.51 | mickeyl | if you want initrd respawning too fast, then use -O3 ... |
| 18:37.57 | kergoth | I trust the devel more than I trust gcc |
| 18:38.01 | mickeyl | init even |
| 18:39.10 | treke_ | thinking of rebuild my glibc and xfree86 packages with some athlon tuning |
| 18:39.25 | kergoth | treke_: use apt-build |
| 18:39.30 | treke_ | kergoth: yup :) |
| 18:39.31 | kergoth | your handy dandy pakage rebuilder w/ opts |
| 18:39.33 | kergoth | :) |
| 18:39.37 | kergoth | gotta love debian's tools |
| 18:39.39 | treke_ | I like apt-build |
| 18:39.50 | treke_ | looking up all the nifty flags to use |
| 18:40.27 | kergoth | theres a good gentoo site on opts i usually hit up when i need em |
| 18:45.19 | treke_ | found it |
| 18:45.36 | treke_ | they recommend o3, but I trust you a bit more than them :) |
| 18:47.20 | treke_ | bipolar: be careful opening it |
| 18:47.29 | treke_ | bipolar: things are a bit delicatly placed in there |
| 18:47.40 | bipolar | treke_: so I've noticed.... :) |
| 18:53.41 | mickeyl | hmm... qte234-for-opie091-sigsegv.patch doesn't apply here |
| 18:53.55 | mickeyl | "no file to patch"... maybe wrong pnum |
| 18:55.19 | mickeyl | ah yes, it has to be pnum 1. |
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| 19:37.44 | bipolar | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.12 | mickeyl | remove the ipks from output/ipk |
| 19:38.19 | mickeyl | and remove stamps/.opie.ipk |
| 19:39.13 | bipolar | mickeyl|tv: thanks |
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| 19:47.28 | bipolar | kergoth_: wb |
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| 19:56.28 | Dessimat0r | lo all |
| 19:57.12 | Dessimat0r | ibot seen AndyQ |
| 19:57.14 | | andyq <~AndyQ@pc-62-31-42-4-hy.blueyonder.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #openembedded, 1d 20h 9m 9s ago, saying: 'night all'. |
| 19:57.22 | Dessimat0r | ibot seen Onyx4 |
| 19:57.22 | | onyx4 <onyx4@adsl-63-194-216-219.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #openembedded, 42d 22h 57m 7s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 19:58.47 | bipolar | Dessimat0r: hiya |
| 19:59.08 | Dessimat0r | yo ;) |
| 19:59.47 | bipolar | well... my ipaq is completely dissassembled and on my desk here, and it still boot's. Touchscreen and all work. :) |
| 20:01.43 | kergoth | bipolar: .. why? |
| 20:01.43 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:02.08 | bipolar | kergoth: I'm going to make an in dash computer + mp3 player for my Fiero. :) |
| 20:02.14 | kergoth | oh nie |
| 20:02.16 | kergoth | nice |
| 20:02.20 | kergoth | document it, will you? :P |
| 20:02.29 | bipolar | kergoth: you bet. :) |
| 20:03.11 | bipolar | heh... |
| 20:03.14 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 20:03.28 | bipolar | If you do, and if you can, get an '88 |
| 20:03.28 | icefox | in apache how do you set it up so that someoen can browse a dir? is that Options MultiViews? |
| 20:03.43 | bipolar | icefox: Indexing? |
| 20:04.10 | icefox | yah |
| 20:04.56 | bipolar | kergoth: is 'make ipk' what you use to generate ipks for the target? |
| 20:05.03 | kergoth | or 'make' |
| 20:05.04 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:05.12 | kergoth | default target is 'package' if you've enabled a package output form |
| 20:05.19 | kergoth | which then calls ipk assuming thats the selected output form |
| 20:05.28 | bipolar | kergoth: 'make' is not working for some reason after a make clean. |
| 20:05.40 | kergoth | then you dont have ipkg building enabled |
| 20:05.59 | kergoth | the name of the package changed |
| 20:06.07 | kergoth | ipkg-build is now in ipkg-utils in handhleds.org cvs |
| 20:06.10 | kergoth | so its a seperate build now |
| 20:06.16 | kergoth | so your .config doesnt have it enabled |
| 20:06.18 | bipolar | kergoth: 'make ipk' works until it gets to building konq, then it bombs looking for ipkg-build in the wrong spot. |
| 20:06.21 | kergoth | make menuconfig and go eanble it |
| 20:06.26 | bipolar | ok.. let me check that. |
| 20:06.39 | kergoth | make ipk is forcing it to try building ipks even if it cant |
| 20:06.40 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:06.49 | kergoth | configuration affects defaults, not what targets you _can_ call |
| 20:06.51 | bipolar | kergoth: ahh... IC |
| 20:07.26 | kergoth | mmm peppered beef jerky |
| 20:07.29 | kergoth | and amp energy drinks |
| 20:07.33 | kergoth | what a healthy lunch |
| 20:07.35 | kergoth | hehe |
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| 20:08.15 | bipolar | kergoth: cool. I think I get it now. ;) |
| 20:08.49 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:09.24 | bipolar | kergoth: ok... I've got a packaging error. Does this make sense: |
| 20:09.25 | bipolar | *** package size: 2298948 |
| 20:09.25 | bipolar | installing preinst |
| 20:09.25 | bipolar | *** building package (ipkg-build) |
| 20:09.26 | bipolar | ../../../konq-embed/ipkg/mkipkg: /mnt/smb_home/bflong/arm/buildroot-oz/build/ipkg-x86/util/ipkg-build: No such file or directory |
| 20:10.29 | kergoth | ah |
| 20:10.31 | kergoth | okay |
| 20:10.33 | kergoth | fix the path :) |
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| 20:11.12 | Harlekin | hi * |
| 20:11.25 | bipolar | Harlekin: hello |
| 20:11.32 | bipolar | kergoth: ok. Where? :) |
| 20:11.53 | Harlekin | hey bipolar |
| 20:12.17 | bipolar | kergoth: packages/konqe/Makefile? heh |
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| 20:13.08 | Dessimat0r | kergoth: some stuff is missing from the 3.1 rc3 feed ;) eXMMS, mplayer, SFCave SDL version, etc |
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| 20:14.17 | kergoth | it should be just calling 'ipkg-build' |
| 20:14.18 | kergoth | which ends up in the PATH implicitly |
| 20:14.26 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: and? |
| 20:14.28 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:14.37 | Dessimat0r | kergoth: well, these are popular packages ;) |
| 20:14.41 | kergoth | and? |
| 20:14.43 | kergoth | no shit |
| 20:14.59 | kergoth | they'll be added when we have a chance to do so |
| 20:14.59 | Dessimat0r | kergoth: they were in the RC2 feed..? |
| 20:15.01 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 20:15.04 | Dessimat0r | thanks ;) |
| 20:17.23 | bipolar | kergoth: cool! it built them all now. :) |
| 20:17.34 | kergoth | bipolar: good good |
| 20:17.58 | kergoth | bipolar: remember to enable those packages Dessimat0r mentioned :) |
| 20:18.34 | bipolar | kergoth: I'll build them as soon as I update the feed. |
| 20:18.41 | kergoth | k |
| 20:18.43 | kergoth | thanks |
| 20:19.01 | bipolar | kergoth: BTW... make feedupdate still does not work. It keeps thinking the packages are old and moving them. |
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| 20:19.47 | kergoth | bipolar: not surprising. I havent touched feedupdate in a very very long time |
| 20:19.51 | kergoth | I'll look into it |
| 20:20.10 | carsten | moin moin |
| 20:20.20 | bipolar | carsten: hello |
| 20:20.27 | kergoth | hey carsten |
| 20:25.17 | kergoth | woo! there isnt too much blood in my caffeinestream anymore |
| 20:27.05 | kergoth | man am i glad i dont get jitters or anything when on caffine |
| 20:31.02 | Dessimat0r | w00t :D |
| 20:32.26 | Dessimat0r | Anyone here using the new 2.5.65 kernel on Linux? |
| 20:33.13 | bipolar | ok, the unstable feed is updated... now for the missing packages |
| 20:33.47 | Dessimat0r | heh |
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| 20:41.05 | bipolar | Shit! |
| 20:41.07 | bipolar | make[1]: Entering directory `/mnt/smb_home/bflong/arm/buildroot-oz/packages/libavcodec' |
| 20:41.07 | bipolar | cvs -z4 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.ffmpeg.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/ffmpeg co ffmpeg/libavcodec |
| 20:41.07 | bipolar | cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) |
| 20:41.07 | bipolar | CVS returned an error |
| 20:41.25 | kergoth | that would be SF being a bitch. |
| 20:41.47 | TheMasterMind1 | bitchy sf |
| 20:42.15 | bipolar | kergoth: and now it's working.... bitchy sf |
| 20:42.45 | kergoth | yup |
| 20:43.06 | bipolar | and now for something completely diffrent.... |
| 20:43.26 | bipolar | the ipaq can run completely detached from it's battery... :) |
| 20:43.39 | bipolar | with a/c pluged in, of course.... |
| 20:44.19 | bipolar | shit again.... build error in libavcodec... pos |
| 20:49.20 | TheMasterMind1 | probably didn't cvs co propelry |
| 20:54.00 | bipolar | hmmm... I just manualy cvs up'ed the source. It's got the same error. Perhaps the code is busted in their cvs? |
| 20:54.13 | kergoth | arent we using a cvsdate? |
| 20:57.09 | bipolar | can anyone else build it? |
| 20:57.35 | bipolar | It's giving me a parse error in mpegvideo.c and then it snowballs from there. |
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| 21:18.27 | kergoth | hey treke |
| 21:18.54 | Dessimat0r | lo |
| 21:19.20 | treke|home | yo |
| 21:24.06 | treke|home | maybe using gcc 2.95 will help |
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| 21:26.57 | nagROM | how come i can't get a changelog for oz3.1 rc3.1 |
| 21:27.49 | nagROM | anyone home? |
| 21:27.54 | kergoth | no |
| 21:28.10 | nagROM | there you are. |
| 21:28.27 | kergoth | noda attempted to fix the changelog, but i never tested it |
| 21:28.34 | kergoth | if its still broken, drop him an email |
| 21:28.40 | nagROM | oh. can do. |
| 21:28.43 | kergoth | remember that most changes occured in the rc3 release, not 3.1 |
| 21:28.51 | kergoth | 3.1 only contained the mtdram mount fix |
| 21:29.02 | nagROM | oh really. |
| 21:29.07 | kergoth | yes, i released 3.1-rc3 |
| 21:29.13 | kergoth | then quickly released a 3.1-rc3.1 |
| 21:29.34 | kergoth | changelog contains entries between this release and the last one, so it wont show much |
| 21:29.35 | nagROM | oh i thought i had rc3. mabey i don' |
| 21:29.37 | nagROM | t |
| 21:29.46 | kergoth | does changelog let you see previous releases on a givne branch? |
| 21:29.51 | nagROM | last time i updated was about a month ago. |
| 21:29.57 | nagROM | yeh. my fault. |
| 21:29.58 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:30.11 | kergoth | a month ago? i released -rc3 about a week ago |
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| 21:30.21 | kergoth | you'll want to flash, most likely |
| 21:30.29 | kergoth | our upgrade path is currently fairly borked |
| 21:30.48 | kergoth | god will this day never end? |
| 21:30.55 | nagROM | no. |
| 21:31.01 | kergoth | bastard! |
| 21:31.01 | nagROM | i'm feelin it wont |
| 21:31.15 | nagROM | i'm stuck in middle michigan with no car and a dialup |
| 21:31.23 | kergoth | hmm |
| 21:31.27 | kergoth | why? |
| 21:31.59 | treke|home | poor nagrom |
| 21:32.02 | nagROM | went to see a friend of mine in michigan and she ended up having to work every day that i'm here. |
| 21:32.09 | treke|home | nothing worse than being stuck in the midwest |
| 21:32.10 | nagROM | and she has no car. |
| 21:32.15 | nagROM | i agree. |
| 21:32.56 | nagROM | i'm going to start drinking. it seems to be all that everybody my age does out her. |
| 21:33.03 | nagROM | e. |
| 21:33.11 | treke|home | thats about all there is to do in the midwest |
| 21:33.17 | treke|home | drink. and molest farm animals |
| 21:33.36 | nagROM | oh and everybody keeps calling me gay because i dress in nice clothing. |
| 21:34.00 | treke|home | ha |
| 21:34.11 | nagROM | and i wondered why i moved from here. |
| 21:34.43 | kergoth | hah |
| 21:35.30 | nagROM | hey. if i need a new battery do i need to buy that stupid 50 dollar sharp one? |
| 21:36.01 | nagROM | or does someone make a compatable one. |
| 21:36.08 | nagROM | compatiable |
| 21:36.13 | nagROM | comatose. |
| 21:37.11 | nagROM | hah. i'm running 3.1rc1 guess i should pay more attention |
| 21:37.22 | treke|home | ~lart linux |
| 21:37.33 | icefox | ~lart self |
| 21:37.50 | icefox | ~lart my parents son |
| 21:37.51 | treke|home | actually no |
| 21:37.57 | treke|home | ~lart aterm |
| 21:38.28 | nagROM | have fun guys. |
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| 21:44.56 | kergoth | AHHHH |
| 21:46.24 | Harlekin | kergoth: ? |
| 21:46.28 | Harlekin | hey treke|home |
| 21:49.35 | kergoth | Harlekin: I'm operating on 2 hours of sleep, zero food, and extremely large amounts of caffeine, and am dealing with gross stupidity both inside my company and outside. |
| 21:49.57 | kergoth | not a good day |
| 21:50.24 | treke|home | ok. so its definitly ide activitiy thats grinding this machine to its knees |
| 21:53.02 | Harlekin | dipidolor rectal |
| 21:58.42 | NetNut404_work | kergoth: you mean that's not how everybody lives every day? |
| 21:58.55 | kergoth | today is worse than the usual shitty days |
| 21:59.04 | NetNut404_work | ahh |
| 21:59.04 | kergoth | today is the proverbial MONDAY |
| 21:59.21 | chouimat|reading | kenb: k |
| 21:59.34 | chouimat|reading | s/kenb/kergoth |
| 22:00.45 | kergoth | ibot: mondays |
| 22:00.45 | | Sounds like _somebody_'s got a case of the Muhhndays! |
| 22:01.21 | NetNut404_work | LOL |
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| 22:10.21 | nagROM | wee i'm back. |
| 22:10.33 | nagROM | is there any way to download oz via ftp |
| 22:10.39 | kergoth | nope |
| 22:10.43 | kergoth | sf doesnt have ftp access |
| 22:11.19 | nagROM | mac ie doesn't seem to be sending something to make the download page work. |
| 22:11.26 | nagROM | it keeps saying file not found. |
| 22:14.57 | nagROM | any ideas on how i could get this to work? |
| 22:17.38 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: sup |
| 22:17.52 | kergoth | shitty day |
| 22:22.13 | nagROM | is there any way i can access the sourceforge type releases page? |
| 22:22.25 | nagROM | or is there only the oz.org one? |
| 22:22.32 | kergoth | h/win 13 |
| 22:22.34 | kergoth | er damn h |
| 22:22.41 | kergoth | we dont use sf's files area |
| 22:23.11 | nagROM | hrmm. do any of the mirrors have ftp? |
| 22:23.48 | kergoth | dunno |
| 22:23.59 | kergoth | try referencing them directly |
| 22:24.03 | kergoth | rather than via our downloads wrapper |
| 22:24.09 | kergoth | http://openzaurus.org/official/ |
| 22:24.16 | nagROM | ok. |
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| 22:26.50 | nagROM | buhh 4 minutes to download 900k |
| 22:27.06 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:28.03 | treke_ | doh. no wonder ide works fine at work, but not at home. Different chipset :) |
| 22:30.07 | TheMasterMind1 | hm |
| 22:30.58 | tux_mike | hrm... |
| 22:31.10 | tux_mike | USB 8051-based MCU |
| 22:31.12 | tux_mike | sweet |
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| 22:38.02 | treke_ | kergoth: so i go poking about lkml in hopes of seing a fix for my IDE-DMA hangs. The solution is to use a PS2 mouse :) |
| 22:38.17 | kergoth | aha, wtf? |
| 22:38.56 | treke_ | kergoth: looks like errata that happens to be triggered by not using the ps2 mouse port |
| 22:39.12 | treke_ | http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0209.3/0382.html |
| 22:39.47 | treke_ | found a few other postings saying that using ps2 mice fixed the hang |
| 22:40.12 | kergoth | thats pretty fscking weird |
| 22:40.20 | kergoth | whats the hang behavior? box hangs completely/ |
| 22:40.28 | treke_ | kergoth: yup |
| 22:40.37 | kergoth | ouch |
| 22:40.38 | treke_ | although in some cases I've seen it recover |
| 22:40.42 | kergoth | my system pauses |
| 22:40.48 | kergoth | hangs solid for 5-30 seconds |
| 22:40.50 | kergoth | then returns |
| 22:40.51 | treke_ | same |
| 22:40.57 | kergoth | i'm not using ide! |
| 22:40.58 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:41.01 | treke_ | it does that and sometimes it just hangs completly |
| 22:41.02 | kergoth | :\ |
| 22:41.08 | kergoth | yeah, i've see that too |
| 22:41.08 | treke_ | kergoth: you have a 768> |
| 22:42.14 | kergoth | hm, i think i have that via chipset |
| 22:42.15 | treke_ | tempted to return the board and get one of the tyans that use the 766 south bridge |
| 22:42.20 | kergoth | via8233 and the other |
| 22:42.28 | kergoth | whose model i cant recall off the top of my head |
| 22:44.52 | treke_ | kergoth: kinda surprising though. They were aiming for the server market |
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| 22:58.46 | kergoth`bbl | where, oh where, did my motivation go |
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| 22:59.28 | chouimat|reading | kergoth`bbl: iraq ? |
| 22:59.56 | treke_ | kergoth`bbl: to unmotivated to go outside? :) |
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| 23:02.21 | kergoth`bbl | treke_: no i went outside, and didnt want to come back in |
| 23:02.44 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 23:03.15 | treke_ | understandable |
| 23:03.18 | kergoth`bbl | and i really dont want to do this fucking php kbase |
| 23:03.23 | kergoth`bbl | i hate this shit |
| 23:03.34 | treke_ | I went to lunch and didnt want to come back :) |
| 23:05.02 | TheMasterMind1 | great idea |
| 23:05.17 | kergoth`bbl | thing is, its on my goals, so i wouldnt have completed it |
| 23:05.21 | TheMasterMind1 | so? |
| 23:05.25 | kergoth`bbl | i doubt itd be an excuse to can me, but i'm already walking on thin ice |
| 23:05.29 | kergoth`bbl | boss has it in for me |
| 23:05.30 | TheMasterMind1 | hack the goals db |
| 23:05.47 | kergoth`bbl | for that one time when I explained exactly why he was an inept manager in front of the rest of the dept |
| 23:05.53 | TheMasterMind1 | lol |
| 23:06.00 | TheMasterMind1 | ouch |
| 23:06.06 | kergoth`bbl | it was fun though |
| 23:11.56 | treke_ | particularly since your roommate just move out :) |
| 23:20.04 | kergoth`bbl | yes yes i know, its not like i'm going to get canned intentionally |
| 23:20.13 | kergoth`bbl | but i need to get out of this php shit |
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| 23:22.24 | treke_ | bah tdprime@inreach needs to step the fuck back |
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| 23:34.32 | treke_ | kergoth`bbl: hmmm, good news is alan cox seems to be doing an asslode of work on the 760mpx/768 |
| 23:55.52 | treke_ | "No, I am still not happy. |
| 23:55.54 | treke_ | " |
| 23:57.50 | treke_ | I'm trying to resist the urge to respond sarcastically |
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