| 00:00.15 | scanline | written in Verilog, using a 16x16 LED grid as output, and capacitive proximity sensors for input :) |
| 00:00.22 | dscordia | TheMasterMind1: it would be a good way for dell to show support for linux |
| 00:00.26 | dscordia | fwiw |
| 00:00.26 | scanline | The one true pong game with no moving parts |
| 00:01.39 | TheMasterMind1 | dscordia: yep |
| 00:01.56 | TheMasterMind1 | scanline: nice |
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| 00:06.03 | scanline | I'll post pictures and such when it's done :) |
| 00:13.11 | treke | hmmm. buildroot doesnt recommend diif-foo.gz |
| 00:13.44 | kergoth | ? |
| 00:13.55 | kergoth | dont store patches in buildroot compressed, if thats what you mean |
| 00:14.05 | kergoth | cause otherwise the revision control system cant track changes to it |
| 00:14.08 | treke | nope, it should be wgetting it |
| 00:14.16 | kergoth | ah |
| 00:14.28 | kergoth | take a look at scripts/getsource |
| 00:14.32 | treke | I am |
| 00:14.58 | prpplague | kergoth: weren't you working on a new buildroot based on a debian build structure? |
| 00:15.11 | kergoth | yeah, we're working on a new buildroot |
| 00:15.15 | kergoth | for the open embedded project |
| 00:15.22 | prpplague | cool |
| 00:15.26 | kergoth | we had the first brainstorming session on it the other day |
| 00:15.44 | prpplague | great, i need to get something together for the hackkit soon |
| 00:15.53 | prpplague | kergoth: i started on the docs last night |
| 00:16.09 | kergoth | chouimat|away: when you get a chance, update the wiki to clean up the rest of the directly pasted irc log bits |
| 00:16.28 | kergoth | prpplague: openembedded.org's wiki has the page on the buildsystem, not much there yet |
| 00:16.32 | kergoth | prpplague: ah cool |
| 00:17.28 | kergoth | (netsilicon-gdb) step |
| 00:17.28 | kergoth | Cannot access memory at address 0x55752b22 |
| 00:17.30 | kergoth | hmm |
| 00:17.38 | kergoth | who the fuck jumped me out to 0x55752b22? |
| 00:17.38 | kergoth | odd |
| 00:18.06 | prpplague | i still have some stuff i need to ship to you, i'm gonna try to that out monday |
| 00:18.57 | treke | i did |
| 00:19.05 | kergoth | treke: fucker |
| 00:19.09 | kergoth | prpplague: cool |
| 00:19.13 | kergoth | brb |
| 00:22.09 | treke | hmmm getsource should be recognising this |
| 00:23.34 | treke | oops. trailing '.' :) |
| 00:24.16 | ljp | fuk fuk fuk |
| 00:27.11 | treke | ulyx, fortune SP |
| 00:27.12 | ulyx | That movie gets better every time I see it. |
| 00:28.16 | prpplague | ulyx: which one? |
| 00:28.16 | ulyx | *shrug* |
| 00:28.53 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune SP |
| 00:28.54 | ulyx | Dude! That movie was fucking sweet! |
| 00:28.58 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune SP |
| 00:28.59 | ulyx | What would Brian Botano do? |
| 00:29.03 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune drugs |
| 00:29.03 | ulyx | There are more old drunkards than old doctors. |
| 00:30.38 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune drugs |
| 00:30.38 | ulyx | Recipe for a Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster: (1) Take the juice from one bottle of Ol' Janx Spirit (2) Pour into it one measure of water from the seas of Santraginus V (Oh, those Santraginean fish!) (3) Allow 3 cubes of Arcturan Mega-gin to melt into the mixture (properly iced or the benzine is lost.) (4) Allow four liters of Fallian marsh gas to bubble through it. (5) Over the back of a silver |
| 00:30.39 | ulyx | spoon, float a measure of Qualactin Hypermint extract. (6) Drop in the tooth of an Algolian Suntiger. Watch it dissolve. (7) Sprinkle Zamphuor. (8) Add an olive. (9) Drink... but... very carefully... |
| 00:36.49 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune men-women |
| 00:36.50 | ulyx | To our sweethearts and wives. May they never meet. -- 19th century toast |
| 00:36.53 | kergoth | lol |
| 00:37.07 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune men-women |
| 00:37.07 | ulyx | Basically my wife was immature. I'd be at home in the bath and she'd come in and sink my boats. -- Woody Allen |
| 00:37.15 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune men-women |
| 00:37.16 | ulyx | Woman's advice has little value, but he who won't take it is a fool. -- Cervantes |
| 00:37.26 | kergoth | heh. truee that |
| 00:37.28 | ljp | fuk fuk fuk |
| 00:37.33 | kergoth | ljp: ? |
| 00:37.34 | ljp | 0--=[[[[[[[[[ |
| 00:37.37 | ljp | fuk fuk fuk |
| 00:37.39 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune men-women |
| 00:37.39 | ulyx | Youth had been a habit of hers so long that she could not part with it. |
| 00:37.42 | ljp | :) |
| 00:37.50 | ljp | I gicve up |
| 00:37.53 | ljp | give |
| 00:37.53 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune men-women |
| 00:37.54 | ulyx | There is no realizable power that man cannot, in time, fashion the tools to attain, nor any power so secure that the naked ape will not abuse it. So it is written in the genetic cards -- only physics and war hold him in check. And also the wife who wants him home by five, of course. -- Encyclopadia Apocryphia, 1990 ed. |
| 00:37.56 | kergoth | give up what? |
| 00:38.09 | ljp | anything everything |
| 00:38.12 | kergoth | ah |
| 00:38.14 | ljp | it aint worth it |
| 00:38.15 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune men-women |
| 00:38.16 | ulyx | Some men are so macho they'll get you pregnant just to kill a rabbit. -- Maureen Murphy |
| 00:38.17 | ljp | :D |
| 00:38.29 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune men-women |
| 00:38.29 | ulyx | No modern woman with a grain of sense ever sends little notes to an unmarried man -- not until she is married, anyway. -- Arthur Binstead |
| 00:39.14 | treke | hmmm. this patch doesn seem o work :) |
| 00:40.06 | ljp | drunk.. I need a good drunk |
| 00:40.31 | kergoth | ljp: i hear there are lots on the street downtown. go get one |
| 00:41.24 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune homer |
| 00:41.25 | ulyx | We live in a society of laws. Why do you think I took you to all those "Police Academy" movies? For fun? Well, I didn't hear anybody laughin', did you? -- Homer Simpson Marge Be Not Proud |
| 00:42.52 | ljp | hmm |
| 00:43.03 | ljp | I need _me_ a good drunk |
| 00:43.06 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune SP |
| 00:43.07 | ulyx | Fuck dude, I want to be just like Terrance and Philip! |
| 00:43.12 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune SP |
| 00:43.13 | ulyx | Hey, don't call me fat you fucking Jew! |
| 00:44.14 | ljp | thx |
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| 00:51.55 | Cloudchaser | hiya |
| 00:52.31 | treke | ulyx: you cant use the f word |
| 00:52.34 | Cloudchaser | that bot's a little on the ...obnoxious side |
| 00:52.39 | Neo|Work | I swear that JasonNJ has a bot that logs in and says something like 'sup' or 'blah'. :)) |
| 00:52.48 | treke | <ulyx> What Jew? |
| 00:53.28 | SoopaImposter | wtf |
| 00:54.07 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:54.18 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune SP |
| 00:54.19 | ulyx | Well Philip, I hope you've learned something throughg this whole experience. I have Terrance. I've learned that you are a boner biting dick fart fuck face. |
| 00:54.57 | Cloudchaser | not sure i see the charm in that bot |
| 00:55.09 | kergoth | fortune! its the only reason to keep it around |
| 00:55.11 | treke | Cloudchaser: The fortunes database rocks |
| 00:55.13 | kergoth | its larts are too vulgar |
| 00:55.17 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune |
| 00:55.18 | ulyx | I'm going to Iowa for an award. Then I'm appearing at Carnegie Hall, it's sold out. Then I'm sailing to France to be honored by the French government -- I'd give it all up for one erection. -- Groucho Marx |
| 00:55.29 | Cloudchaser | its fortunes aren't too nice either |
| 00:55.40 | kergoth | its from the general fortune database. |
| 00:55.44 | kergoth | which has nothing to do with ulyx. |
| 00:55.53 | treke | fortune sp |
| 00:55.53 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune men-women |
| 00:55.53 | ulyx | Do you think your mother and I should have lived comfortably so long together if ever we had been married? |
| 00:56.07 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune men-women |
| 00:56.07 | ljp | hmmm |
| 00:56.08 | ulyx | Boys are beyond the range of anybody's sure understanding, at least when they are between the ages of 18 months and 90 years. -- James Thurber |
| 00:56.33 | *** topic/#openembedded by ljp -> OpenEmbedded - welcome to the Spam channel |
| 00:56.37 | treke | kergoth: do you know who maintains the pxa patches for the kernel? |
| 00:56.38 | Neo|Work | bah, male humans are so much more logical and understandable then women |
| 00:56.45 | Cloudchaser | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:56.46 | treke | yup |
| 00:56.47 | kergoth | treke: nicolas pitre |
| 00:56.48 | Neo|Work | they have absolutely no logical sense of things. :) |
| 00:56.56 | Cloudchaser | thats a good one ljp |
| 00:57.01 | ljp | :D |
| 00:57.05 | treke | kergoth: thanks |
| 00:57.21 | treke | I guess this is the official patch then :) |
| 00:57.48 | *** topic/#openembedded by kergoth -> OpenEmbedded - Where bots are abused 'round the clock | _dont_ ask kergoth about sd/mmc support | Women are hyperthreaded. |
| 00:57.57 | Neo|Work | so what does, btw, open embedded give over other non-Zaurii distributions with OPIE? |
| 00:58.20 | kergoth | I dont understand the question |
| 00:58.26 | treke | Neo|Work: a working opie distribution |
| 00:58.34 | treke | at least on the ipaq side |
| 01:13.52 | *** topic/#openembedded by ljp -> OpenEmbedded - Where bots are abused 'round the clock | please ask kergoth about sd/mmc support | Women are hyperthreaded. |
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| 01:26.47 | effy-kun | women are hyper-threaded, eh? |
| 01:26.48 | effy-kun | hehe |
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| 02:18.33 | tyranozaurus | :/ still can't get my wcf12 to work in 3.1rc2 |
| 02:19.35 | tyranozaurus | where are the mailing list archives? |
| 02:24.11 | ljp | sf |
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| 02:34.53 | ljp | blah |
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| 03:36.26 | noda | Moo! |
| 03:36.45 | noda | Ooh, I like the topic -- reverse psychology? |
| 03:40.35 | JasonNJ | sup. |
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| 03:41.38 | NeoTron | guess I need to change my channel list somewhat |
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| 03:54.00 | ljp | ibot: kill me |
| 03:54.01 | | ACTION slits ljp's throat |
| 03:55.54 | ljp | fugly |
| 03:58.03 | effy-kun | good one |
| 03:58.19 | effy-kun | I thought the PDF viewer came on the CD with the Zaurus |
| 03:58.39 | ljp | whats a zaurus? |
| 03:58.54 | effy-kun | nm |
| 03:59.00 | ljp | :) |
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| 03:59.18 | ljp | aaawww.. effy does not want to play |
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| 05:18.41 | xyle | hello, anyone here who can help me on some assembly programming? |
| 05:20.56 | ljp | nop |
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| 06:28.23 | TheMasterMind1 | alright |
| 06:28.30 | TheMasterMind1 | how do i do a diff between two dirs |
| 06:39.12 | andersee | diff -urN <dir1> <dir2> |
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| 07:46.07 | chouimat|Zzzz | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg |
| 07:46.18 | Bala | ?? |
| 07:47.56 | chouimat|Zzzz | Bala: nothing just back alone from a bar ... |
| 07:48.17 | chouimat|Zzzz | night] |
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| 09:00.59 | ||ugh | We need a late night channel for when the Europe/EasternUS are snoring and us Pacific Rim folks are awake! |
| 09:02.43 | effy-kun | hehe |
| 09:02.44 | effy-kun | true |
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| 14:35.27 | Freddie | hello everyone |
| 14:35.35 | Freddie | heh |
| 14:35.41 | Freddie | someone is having fun with the topic |
| 14:36.08 | tronical | that's for sure :) |
| 14:36.13 | Freddie | heh, yeah |
| 14:36.13 | Freddie | :) |
| 14:36.24 | Freddie | the crappy thing is |
| 14:36.28 | Freddie | a newbie could join this channel |
| 14:36.30 | Freddie | read the topic |
| 14:36.32 | Freddie | and ask him |
| 14:36.38 | Freddie | which isn't good for either of them |
| 14:36.51 | Freddie | someone with permission to do so should remove that from the topic in my opinion |
| 14:37.00 | Freddie | but then |
| 14:37.02 | Freddie | who am I? |
| 14:37.02 | Freddie | :) |
| 14:37.15 | tronical | it doesn't look +t'ed, so you should be able to, maybe? |
| 14:37.20 | *** topic/#openembedded by tronical -> OpenEmbedded - Where bots are abused 'round the clock | please don't ask kergoth about sd/mmc support | Women are hyperthreaded. |
| 14:37.33 | Freddie | thanks |
| 14:37.43 | Freddie | I guess I just assumed I wouldn't have permission to change it |
| 14:37.57 | Freddie | (often I see bots on channels that will change it back if you change it) |
| 14:38.23 | Freddie | bbiaf |
| 14:40.43 | troffasky | anyone got a Nokia 3310? |
| 14:40.57 | troffasky | I ask because it has a really neat text entry system |
| 14:41.10 | troffasky | that would be cool to have on a handheld computer |
| 14:42.03 | troffasky | you've got the whole alphabet available with 13 keys, and it uses a dictionary to predict what you want to type |
| 14:43.01 | lsmith | iirc opie has that already |
| 14:43.30 | lsmith | pickboard |
| 14:45.26 | troffasky | it's not *quite* the same |
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| 15:14.32 | ciaolinux | ulyx: fortune homer |
| 15:14.32 | ulyx | It could be one of these chemicals here that makes him so smart. Lisa, maybe you should try some of this. -- Homer Simpson Bart the Genius |
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| 17:09.18 | noda | Moo! |
| 17:09.44 | treke | woof |
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| 17:38.47 | kergoth | hey MSpin |
| 17:38.53 | MSpin | heya kergoth |
| 17:39.22 | MSpin | do you know how those linksys routers do their authentication? they must give you cookie after login |
| 17:41.25 | treke | MSpin: isnt it plain old http authentication? |
| 17:44.44 | MSpin | yeah, but what do they do after that? |
| 17:45.12 | treke | dunno. read the apache source :) |
| 17:46.45 | MSpin | the http auth stuff gets passed to the other end in http headers. I'm just wondering what cookie the linksys box gives you back. maybe just a hash of the password? |
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| 17:48.40 | treke | MSpin: dont think its uses cookies |
| 17:48.53 | MSpin | hrm |
| 17:51.00 | treke | MSpin: I'm pretty sure it's just stuff in the headers |
| 17:56.14 | MSpin | k |
| 17:56.16 | MSpin | thanks:) |
| 18:03.05 | kergoth | bleh |
| 18:03.06 | kergoth | hmm |
| 18:08.44 | DaJoker | kergoth: cheer up.. it's friday |
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| 18:20.22 | JasonNJ | blah. |
| 18:21.06 | Neo|Work | JasonNJ: Man, I need to update ibot |
| 18:21.24 | Neo|Work | ibot: be JasonNJ |
| 18:21.25 | | blah. |
| 18:22.01 | tronical | ibot: be ibot |
| 18:22.02 | | tronical: i haven't a clue |
| 18:22.07 | tronical | bleh :) |
| 18:22.52 | mark | ibot: take away my cold |
| 18:22.52 | | mark: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
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| 18:27.39 | kergoth | hey jason, ljp, mark |
| 18:27.41 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune SP |
| 18:27.42 | ulyx | So guys, does it make you nervous to be in America? There are a lot of organizations that want you arrested for destroying children. Oh they'd have to find us first. You're right... NOW! |
| 18:27.57 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune homer |
| 18:27.57 | ulyx | I may just quit my job at the plant to become a full-time stock market guy. -- Homer Simpson Burns Verkaufen Der Kraftwerke |
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| 18:33.34 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune |
| 18:33.35 | ulyx | Q: How many right-to-lifers does it take to change a light bulb? A: Two. One to screw it in and one to say that light started when the screwing began. |
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| 18:38.15 | XavierXeon | strange fortune |
| 18:38.57 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune work |
| 18:38.57 | ulyx | XXVI: If a sufficient number of management layers are superimposed on each other, it can be assured that disaster is not left to chance. XXVII: Rank does not intimidate hardware. Neither does the lack of rank. XXVIII: It is better to be the reorganizer than the reorganizee. XXIX: Executives who do not produce successful results hold on to their jobs only about five years. Those who produce |
| 18:38.58 | ulyx | effective results hang on about half a decade. XXX: By the time the people asking the questions are ready for the answers, the people doing the work have lost track of the questions. -- Norman Augustine |
| 18:39.50 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune work |
| 18:39.51 | ulyx | Hideously disfigured by an ancient Indian curse? WE CAN HELP! Call (511) 338-0959 for an immediate appointment. |
| 18:42.30 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune SP |
| 18:42.31 | ulyx | Aw, ma! He's not even my real brother, he's adopted. |
| 18:42.41 | kergoth | Kick the baby! |
| 18:42.51 | treke | dont kick the baby |
| 18:43.29 | kergoth | I'm juggling 5 projects at work alone, 2 of which are extremely high priority important customer issues |
| 18:43.32 | kergoth | yet |
| 18:43.35 | kergoth | I'm bored |
| 18:44.00 | tronical | hehe |
| 18:44.12 | treke | he |
| 18:44.35 | levi | Alas, high priority doesn't make things any more fun/interesting. |
| 18:44.52 | treke | generally its the opposite |
| 18:45.01 | kergoth | indeed |
| 18:45.07 | XavierXeon | for my boss everything is high priority |
| 18:45.10 | kergoth | this one is interesting, i get to play with an ARM dev board |
| 18:45.16 | kergoth | but it runs NET+OS, which i dont much like |
| 18:45.31 | kergoth | and I cant do anything more until i get email responses from various people,.. so sitting here waiting |
| 18:46.32 | treke | in situations like that, there is only one thing to do |
| 18:46.41 | treke | ulyx: fortune |
| 18:46.41 | ulyx | "Don't let your mouth write no check that your tail can't cash." -- Bo Diddley |
| 18:46.45 | kergoth | hehe |
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| 18:50.04 | icefox | Hey acording to ZUC the speed of light is the same as Warp 10 |
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| 18:50.14 | icefox | But that is wrong |
| 18:50.37 | icefox | warp 1 is the speed of light and wark 10 is so fast that you are everywhere |
| 18:50.38 | icefox | hehe |
| 18:51.15 | icefox | iuc is an interesting app |
| 18:51.30 | treke | zuc is wrong in a lot of ways :) |
| 18:51.55 | treke | at some point it would let you do interesting things like convert from feet to pounds |
| 18:51.59 | treke | or something |
| 18:52.01 | kergoth | hah |
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| 18:52.57 | treke | but it's the app for you if you ever want to know how tall you are in pesos |
| 18:54.12 | icefox | yah but if he can't get the warp converstion right how do you know that the pesos is right? |
| 18:54.23 | kergoth | ulyx: lart icefox |
| 18:54.41 | treke | that is the sound of the joke going right over kergoth's head |
| 18:54.44 | icefox | ulyx: rulette |
| 18:55.12 | icefox | I do think that there should be a conversion application, that one is just a little rusty |
| 18:55.14 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune |
| 18:55.15 | ulyx | Well, see, Joyce, there we were, trapped in the elevator. Now, I had my tennis racquet and the goldfish; she was holding the Crisco. Surely you can imagine how one thing naturally led to another! |
| 18:55.47 | icefox | hahah |
| 18:56.03 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune |
| 18:56.03 | ulyx | Floppy now, hard later. |
| 18:56.07 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune |
| 18:56.07 | ulyx | "A woman is like a dresser ... some man always goin' through her drawers." -- Blind Lemon Pledge |
| 18:56.32 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune work |
| 18:56.33 | ulyx | XXI: It's easy to get a loan unless you need it. XXII: If stock market experts were so expert, they would be buying stock, not selling advice. XXIII: Any task can be completed in only one-third more time than is currently estimated. XXIV: The only thing more costly than stretching the schedule of an established project is accelerating it, which is itself the most costly action known to man. |
| 18:56.33 | ulyx | XXV: A revised schedule is to business what a new season is to an athlete or a new canvas to an artist. -- Norman Augustine |
| 18:57.01 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune work |
| 18:57.01 | ulyx | Men take only their needs into consideration -- never their abilities. -- Napoleon Bonaparte |
| 18:57.16 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune work |
| 18:57.16 | ulyx | I cannot draw a cart, nor eat dried oats; If it be man's work I will do it. |
| 18:57.35 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune work |
| 18:57.35 | ulyx | The opossum is a very sophisticated animal. It doesn't even get up until 5 or 6 PM. |
| 18:58.45 | icefox | http://www.digitaldutch.com/unitconverter/ |
| 18:58.49 | icefox | bits & bytest |
| 18:58.52 | icefox | cool |
| 18:59.09 | icefox | I can't tell you how many times I forget which one is 1024 and which one is 1000 |
| 19:00.18 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:00.23 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune work |
| 19:00.24 | ulyx | "But don't you worry, its for a cause -- feeding global corporations' paws." |
| 19:03.22 | icefox | http://www.backupbuddy.com/cc/prod_cruisecontrol_details.html |
| 19:03.34 | icefox | Man if we could even _worry_ about stuff like that |
| 19:03.34 | SoopaImposter | hmm.. |
| 19:03.38 | SoopaImposter | testing = sid? |
| 19:03.56 | tronical | testing == sarge; sid == unstable |
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| 19:04.43 | RealUlli | hi |
| 19:06.00 | chouimat | ulyx kergoth |
| 19:06.08 | chouimat | ulyx fortune |
| 19:06.09 | ulyx | A remarkable race are the Persians; They have such peculiar diversions. They make love the whole day In the usual way And save up the nights for perversions. |
| 19:09.46 | bipolar | hahaha |
| 19:10.07 | bipolar | ulyx: that was funny |
| 19:10.09 | mark | oh, hi kergoth :) |
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| 19:11.24 | chouimat | ulyx fortune |
| 19:11.25 | ulyx | To a Real Woman, every ejaculation is premature. |
| 19:11.47 | *** join/#openembedded elkay (~chatzilla@gw-ranch.colemanfamilycamps.com) |
| 19:11.54 | chouimat | hi all |
| 19:12.24 | Twiun | hey Choux |
| 19:14.03 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune |
| 19:14.04 | ulyx | "Not only is God dead, but just try to find a plumber on weekends." -- Woody Allen |
| 19:15.01 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune |
| 19:15.01 | ulyx | A nymph hits you and steals your virginity. |
| 19:15.37 | chouimat | ljp: nice |
| 19:16.11 | chouimat | ulyx fortune |
| 19:16.12 | ulyx | A widow who fancied a man some Was diddled three times in a hansome. When she clamored for more Her young man became sore And exclaimed "My name's Simpson not Samson." |
| 19:16.47 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune |
| 19:16.48 | ulyx | Q: How many right-to-lifers does it take to change a light bulb? A: Two. One to screw it in and one to say that light started when the screwing began. |
| 19:16.50 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune |
| 19:16.50 | ulyx | Conservative, n.: One who admires radicals centuries after they're dead. -- Leo C. Rosten |
| 19:16.57 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune |
| 19:16.58 | ulyx | Q: Why does Helen Keller masturbate with one hand? A: So she can moan with the other! |
| 19:17.13 | chouimat | lol |
| 19:18.33 | chouimat | ulyx fortune |
| 19:18.34 | ulyx | Anxiety, n.: The first time you can't do it a second time. Panic, n.: The second time you can't do it the first time. |
| 19:19.37 | kergoth | ask away. |
| 19:20.34 | elkay | Both MaxMame and zmame print out "Loading of image 'MaximizeButton' is not ideal (either it doesn't exist or an extension was specified)" and then segfault. Is there something I can do about that? |
| 19:20.49 | kergoth | you can debug it so we know why its segfaulting |
| 19:21.01 | kergoth | gdb maxmame ... run .. b00m .. bt |
| 19:21.35 | chouimat | ulyx weather |
| 19:21.35 | ulyx | 31 minutes ago, on Fri Feb 07 19:00:00 UTC 2003, the wind was calm at CYQB. The temperature was -10 degrees Celsius (14 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1011 hPa (29.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 72.4%. There were scattered clouds at a height of 579 meters (1900 feet) and broken clouds at a height of 6096 meters (20000 feet). |
| 19:21.36 | elkay | Sure thing. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't already known. |
| 19:21.45 | kergoth | I havent heard of the beahvior personally |
| 19:21.53 | kergoth | and lorddavon didnt mention it (he maintains maxmame) |
| 19:22.00 | kergoth | what sdl libs are you using? |
| 19:22.38 | elkay | libsdl1.2qte_20021201-7_arm.ipk |
| 19:24.15 | kergoth | what feed? testing? |
| 19:25.39 | elkay | Yes |
| 19:27.07 | kergoth | okay, so use gdb if you would. |
| 19:27.08 | elkay | Oops, will I need to have installed the debug image? All I get out of gdb is 0x0003eca8 in strcpy () |
| 19:27.14 | kergoth | ? |
| 19:27.23 | kergoth | 'all i get out of gdb' doing what? |
| 19:27.59 | elkay | Sorry, I wasn't clear there. "gdb ./MaxMame" followed by "run", and "bt" when it dies: |
| 19:28.05 | elkay | #0 0x0003eca8 in strcpy () |
| 19:28.10 | elkay | #1 0x000245c4 in strcpy () |
| 19:28.18 | elkay | And that's it. |
| 19:28.40 | kergoth | and it says received SIGSEGV when it crashes? |
| 19:28.54 | elkay | Yes. |
| 19:28.55 | kergoth | segfault on strcpy, it must've been passed a NULL Or something |
| 19:31.23 | elkay | Interestingly, those are the only two programs that do this. Though they may be the only SDL programs I've got so far. |
| 19:31.40 | kergoth | try prboom, or try the sdl libs in unstable |
| 19:33.09 | elkay | MaxMame just seg faults before it does anything, no matter what options I give it. Whereas with zmame I can run it with -help and such, and it only segfaults after doing all of its startup, loading the roms, etc. Its backtrace is also different: |
| 19:33.16 | elkay | #0 0x405b34dc in fread () from /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 19:33.23 | kergoth | odd. |
| 19:36.01 | elkay | I see that MaximizeButton message a lot if I start programs from a command prompt. Even running addressbook. Do you know where it's coming from? Maybe I installed something and overwrote an important file. |
| 19:36.16 | kergoth | its harmless |
| 19:36.26 | elkay | Oh, ok. |
| 19:42.28 | chouimat | neeed coooooffffffffeeeeeeee |
| 19:46.18 | elkay | Hm. FWIW, prboom works fine. |
| 19:46.43 | kergoth | good |
| 19:46.49 | kergoth | odd |
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| 19:52.09 | thMachine | is there any word on the next release of oz? |
| 19:53.07 | kergoth | It'll be released when I have time to finish it. |
| 19:53.10 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:53.18 | thMachine | fair enough |
| 19:53.43 | chouimat | kergoth: the right answer is "One day but not today" |
| 19:53.44 | elkay | Upgrading libsdl doesn't seem to have fixed it either. Oh well, it's not all that important. |
| 19:54.03 | elkay | Everything else seems to work great, except for that wlan control panel issue. |
| 19:59.53 | elkay | Are there often problems with the unstable feed, or is it relatively safe to use? |
| 20:00.25 | elkay | (And I'm guessing that if I wanted to do that, I could do an ipkg upgrade to get there?) |
| 20:03.23 | chouimat | ulyx fortune homer |
| 20:03.23 | ulyx | Unlike most of you, I am not a nut. -- Homer Simpson Homer's Odyssey |
| 20:03.48 | elkay | Whee, closing early. |
| 20:06.36 | treke | kergoth: the gcc build works just fine |
| 20:06.57 | chouimat | ulyx fortune homer |
| 20:06.57 | ulyx | Sorry, Mr. Burns, but I don't go in for these backdoor shenanigans. Sure I'm flattered, maybe even a little curious, but the answer is no! -- Homer Simpson Last Exit to Springfield |
| 20:07.16 | treke | gcc3 |
| 20:07.38 | chouimat | ulyx fortune homer |
| 20:07.38 | ulyx | All right. His story checks out. -- Homer Simpson, checking in the encyclopedia under "Bush, George" Two Bad Neighbors |
| 20:07.40 | treke | Everything I tried building built |
| 20:08.02 | treke | obviously gcc2 built apps didnt work :) |
| 20:08.32 | treke | kergoth: maybe we should go the debian route and append c102 to the end of gcc3 built apps |
| 20:09.23 | chouimat | c102? |
| 20:10.01 | tronical | chouimat: C++ ABI version |
| 20:28.06 | cbok | mutmohahahaaaa.. |
| 20:28.22 | chouimat | huh? |
| 20:31.21 | ciaolinux | ulyx: roulette |
| 20:31.22 | ulyx | ciaolinux: chamber 4 of 6 => +click+ |
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| 20:31.49 | ciaolinux | ulyx: roulette stats |
| 20:31.50 | ulyx | roulette stats: 92 games completed, 378 shots fired at 26 players. Luckiest: nofpu (100.0% clicks). Unluckiest: Neo|Work,treke|home (66.7% clicks). Highest survival rate: nofpu (100.0%). Lowest survival rate: Neo|Work (0.0%). Most wins: mr_woody (20). Most deaths: icefox (27). |
| 20:31.51 | teferi | anyone feel like giving me a hand getting Opera to run on OZ 3? I've gotten the opera ipk installed and generated, and I know I need to gank some libraries from the Sharp ROM (I read the FAQ), but the forum post linked to from that specific FAQ appears to be on a forum that's quite down... |
| 20:32.09 | teferi | s/(installed) and (generated)/$2 and $1/; |
| 20:32.42 | JasonNJ | ulyx: roulette |
| 20:32.42 | ulyx | JasonNJ: chamber 5 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 20:32.49 | JasonNJ | ouch. |
| 20:32.50 | Neo|Work | ulyx roulette |
| 20:32.50 | ulyx | Neo|Work: chamber 1 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 20:32.56 | Neo|Work | dammit! |
| 20:33.03 | Neo|Work | what is it with me and roulette. :P |
| 20:33.03 | JasonNJ | ulyx roulette |
| 20:33.04 | ulyx | JasonNJ: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:33.06 | Neo|Work | ulyx roulette |
| 20:33.06 | ulyx | Neo|Work: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:33.08 | Neo|Work | phew |
| 20:33.08 | JasonNJ | ulyx roulette |
| 20:33.08 | ulyx | JasonNJ: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:33.11 | JasonNJ | ulyx roulette |
| 20:33.11 | ulyx | JasonNJ: chamber 4 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:33.21 | JasonNJ | teferi: zauruszone is dead |
| 20:33.27 | teferi | I've noticed. |
| 20:33.43 | teferi | Which is unfortunate, because I can't find aforementioned list of libraries that need to be copied anywhere else. |
| 20:33.45 | Neo|Work | ulyx roulette |
| 20:33.46 | ulyx | Neo|Work: chamber 5 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 20:33.55 | Neo|Work | ok, I'm not improving my stats here! |
| 20:33.56 | Neo|Work | ulyx roulette |
| 20:33.56 | ulyx | Neo|Work: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:34.09 | chouimat | ulyx roulette |
| 20:34.09 | ulyx | chouimat: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:34.14 | JasonNJ | I am hoping the posts can be migrated to the new sharp forum, we have all of them, but as I am now no longer at sharp, I'm not in the loop anymore. |
| 20:34.21 | teferi | I see. |
| 20:35.02 | chouimat | Bob can you go sleep in another place than on my keyboard! |
| 20:35.11 | JasonNJ | ulyx roulette |
| 20:35.11 | ulyx | JasonNJ: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:35.14 | JasonNJ | ulyx roulette |
| 20:35.15 | ulyx | JasonNJ: chamber 4 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:35.22 | JasonNJ | ulyx roulette |
| 20:35.22 | ulyx | JasonNJ: chamber 5 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:35.34 | Neo|Work | ok, no way I'm doing that again! |
| 20:35.40 | JasonNJ | lol |
| 20:35.43 | treke | ulyx roulette |
| 20:35.43 | ulyx | treke: chamber 6 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 20:35.43 | JasonNJ | neither am i |
| 20:35.49 | chouimat | ulyx roulette stats |
| 20:35.50 | ulyx | roulette stats: 96 games completed, 391 shots fired at 26 players. Luckiest: nofpu (100.0% clicks). Unluckiest: Neo|Work (60.0% clicks). Highest survival rate: nofpu (100.0%). Lowest survival rate: Neo|Work,treke|home (16.7%). Most wins: mr_woody (20). Most deaths: icefox (27). |
| 20:35.53 | ciaolinux | ulyx: roulette |
| 20:35.54 | ulyx | ciaolinux: chamber 1 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 20:35.56 | treke | ulyx roulette |
| 20:35.56 | ulyx | treke: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:35.58 | Neo|Work | ulyx roulette |
| 20:35.58 | ulyx | Neo|Work: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:36.00 | ciaolinux | ulyx: roulette |
| 20:36.00 | ulyx | ciaolinux: chamber 3 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 20:36.03 | treke | ulyx roulette |
| 20:36.03 | ulyx | treke: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:36.04 | Neo|Work | ulyx roulette |
| 20:36.05 | ulyx | Neo|Work: chamber 2 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 20:36.06 | chouimat | ulyx roulette stats chouimat |
| 20:36.06 | ulyx | chouimat has played 24 games, won 17 and lost 5. chouimat pulled the trigger 31 times and found the chamber empty on 26 occasions. |
| 20:36.06 | ciaolinux | ulyx: roulette |
| 20:36.08 | ulyx | ciaolinux: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:36.10 | treke | ulyx roulette |
| 20:36.10 | ulyx | treke: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:36.12 | Neo|Work | ulyx roulette |
| 20:36.12 | ulyx | Neo|Work: chamber 3 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 20:36.15 | Neo|Work | !!!! |
| 20:36.16 | Neo|Work | ulyx roulette |
| 20:36.16 | ulyx | Neo|Work: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:36.20 | treke | ulyx roulette |
| 20:36.20 | ulyx | treke: chamber 2 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 20:36.21 | ciaolinux | ulyx: roulette |
| 20:36.22 | ulyx | ciaolinux: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:36.22 | chouimat | ulyx roulette stats Neo|Work |
| 20:36.22 | ulyx | Neo|Work has played 10 games, won 3 and lost 6. Neo|Work pulled the trigger 14 times and found the chamber empty on 8 occasions. |
| 20:36.24 | treke | ulyx roulette |
| 20:36.25 | ulyx | treke: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:36.25 | Neo|Work | ulyx roulette |
| 20:36.27 | ulyx | Neo|Work: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:36.29 | ciaolinux | ulyx: roulette |
| 20:36.29 | ulyx | ciaolinux: chamber 4 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 20:36.31 | treke | ulyx roulette |
| 20:36.32 | JasonNJ | neither am i |
| 20:36.33 | ulyx | treke: chamber 1 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 20:36.33 | Neo|Work | ulyx roulette stats |
| 20:36.34 | JasonNJ | ulyx roulette |
| 20:36.36 | JasonNJ | ulyx roulette |
| 20:36.36 | ciaolinux | ulyx: roulette stats |
| 20:36.37 | JasonNJ | ulyx roulette |
| 20:36.37 | ulyx | roulette stats: 103 games completed, 407 shots fired at 26 players. Luckiest: nofpu (100.0% clicks). Unluckiest: Neo|Work (60.0% clicks). Highest survival rate: nofpu (100.0%). Lowest survival rate: treke|home (16.7%). Most wins: mr_woody (20). Most deaths: icefox (27). |
| 20:36.37 | JasonNJ | ulyx roulette |
| 20:36.38 | chouimat | ulyx roulette stats ciaolinux |
| 20:36.38 | JasonNJ | ulyx roulette |
| 20:36.41 | ulyx | JasonNJ: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:36.41 | JasonNJ | ulyx roulette |
| 20:36.43 | JasonNJ | ulyx roulette |
| 20:36.43 | ulyx | JasonNJ: chamber 2 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 20:36.43 | Neo|Work | ulyx roulette |
| 20:36.45 | JasonNJ | ulyx roulette |
| 20:36.47 | ulyx | roulette stats: 104 games completed, 409 shots fired at 26 players. Luckiest: nofpu (100.0% clicks). Unluckiest: Neo|Work (60.0% clicks). Highest survival rate: nofpu (100.0%). Lowest survival rate: treke|home (16.7%). Most wins: mr_woody (20). Most deaths: icefox (27). |
| 20:36.47 | JasonNJ | ulyx roulette |
| 20:36.50 | ciaolinux | ulyx: roulette stats |
| 20:36.51 | ulyx | JasonNJ: chamber 1 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 20:36.51 | JasonNJ | ulyx roulette |
| 20:36.54 | treke | ulyx roulette |
| 20:36.54 | ciaolinux | ulyx: roulette |
| 20:36.55 | ulyx | JasonNJ: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:36.57 | ulyx | ciaolinux has played 11 games, won 5 and lost 6. ciaolinux pulled the trigger 18 times and found the chamber empty on 12 occasions. |
| 20:36.57 | chouimat | ulyx roulette stats JasonNJ |
| 20:37.00 | ulyx | JasonNJ: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:37.02 | ulyx | JasonNJ: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:37.03 | JasonNJ | ulyx roulette |
| 20:37.04 | ulyx | JasonNJ: chamber 4 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:37.04 | JasonNJ | ulyx roulette |
| 20:37.06 | ulyx | JasonNJ: chamber 5 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:37.06 | JasonNJ | ulyx roulette |
| 20:37.06 | Neo|Work | ulyx roulette |
| 20:37.07 | JasonNJ | ulyx roulette |
| 20:37.08 | JasonNJ | ulyx roulette |
| 20:37.16 | JasonNJ | ulyx roulette |
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| 20:37.18 | JasonNJ | ulyx roulette |
| 20:37.18 | ulyx | JasonNJ: chamber 4 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:37.20 | JasonNJ | ulyx roulette |
| 20:37.20 | ulyx | JasonNJ: chamber 5 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 20:37.22 | JasonNJ | lol |
| 20:37.32 | mr_woody | ulyx: roulette stats mr_woody |
| 20:37.32 | treke | ulyx roulette |
| 20:37.32 | ulyx | treke: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:37.33 | ulyx | mr_woody has played 40 games, won 20 and lost 20. mr_woody pulled the trigger 69 times and found the chamber empty on 49 occasions. |
| 20:37.39 | chouimat | ulyx roulette stats JasonNJ |
| 20:37.39 | ulyx | JasonNJ has played 11 games, won 4 and lost 7. JasonNJ pulled the trigger 31 times and found the chamber empty on 24 occasions. |
| 20:37.40 | mr_woody | ulyx: roulette |
| 20:37.40 | ulyx | mr_woody: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:37.42 | treke | ulyx roulette stats treke |
| 20:37.42 | ulyx | treke has played 13 games, won 7 and lost 5. treke pulled the trigger 14 times and found the chamber empty on 9 occasions. |
| 20:37.49 | treke | ulyx roulette |
| 20:37.49 | ulyx | treke: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:37.55 | chouimat | ulyx roulette |
| 20:37.55 | ulyx | chouimat: chamber 4 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 20:37.59 | chouimat | ulyx roulette stats chouimat |
| 20:38.00 | ulyx | chouimat has played 25 games, won 17 and lost 6. chouimat pulled the trigger 32 times and found the chamber empty on 26 occasions. |
| 20:38.07 | Neo|Work | ulyx roulette status |
| 20:38.08 | ulyx | incorrect usage: roulette => play russian roulette - starts a new game if one isn't already running. One round in a six chambered gun. Take turns to say roulette to the bot, until somebody dies. roulette reload => force the gun to reload, roulette stats => show stats from all games, roulette stats <player> => show stats for <player>, roulette clearstats => clear stats (config level auth required) |
| 20:38.09 | Neo|Work | ulyx roulette stats |
| 20:38.11 | ulyx | roulette stats: 111 games completed, 438 shots fired at 26 players. Luckiest: nofpu (100.0% clicks). Unluckiest: Neo|Work (64.7% clicks). Highest survival rate: nofpu (100.0%). Lowest survival rate: treke|home (16.7%). Most wins: mr_woody (21). Most deaths: icefox (27). |
| 20:38.16 | Neo|Work | dammit, I'm still on there |
| 20:38.18 | mr_woody | ulyx: roulette |
| 20:38.18 | ulyx | mr_woody: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:38.20 | treke | ulyx roulette |
| 20:38.21 | ulyx | treke: chamber 2 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 20:38.22 | Neo|Work | ulyx roulette |
| 20:38.23 | ulyx | Neo|Work: chamber 1 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 20:38.25 | treke | ulyx roulette |
| 20:38.26 | ulyx | treke: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:38.30 | chouimat | ulyx roulette stats icefox |
| 20:38.30 | ulyx | icefox has played 40 games, won 13 and lost 27. icefox pulled the trigger 83 times and found the chamber empty on 56 occasions. |
| 20:38.30 | mr_woody | ulyx: roulette |
| 20:38.31 | ulyx | mr_woody: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:38.37 | mr_woody | ulyx: roulette stats |
| 20:38.38 | ulyx | roulette stats: 113 games completed, 443 shots fired at 26 players. Luckiest: nofpu (100.0% clicks). Unluckiest: Neo|Work (61.1% clicks). Highest survival rate: nofpu (100.0%). Lowest survival rate: treke|home (16.7%). Most wins: mr_woody (22). Most deaths: icefox (27). |
| 20:38.40 | chouimat | ulyx roulette |
| 20:38.40 | ulyx | chouimat: chamber 3 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 20:38.45 | mr_woody | ulyx: roulette stats |
| 20:38.46 | ulyx | roulette stats: 114 games completed, 444 shots fired at 26 players. Luckiest: nofpu (100.0% clicks). Unluckiest: Neo|Work (61.1% clicks). Highest survival rate: nofpu (100.0%). Lowest survival rate: treke|home (16.7%). Most wins: mr_woody (23). Most deaths: icefox (27). |
| 20:38.49 | mr_woody | ulyx: roulette |
| 20:38.50 | ulyx | mr_woody: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:38.57 | Neo|Work | ulyx roulette |
| 20:38.57 | ulyx | Neo|Work: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:38.59 | treke | cyberlo: then you cant play it :) |
| 20:39.00 | mr_woody | ulyx: roulette |
| 20:39.00 | ulyx | mr_woody: chamber 3 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 20:39.01 | treke | ulyx roulette |
| 20:39.01 | ulyx | treke: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:39.02 | Neo|Work | ulyx roulette |
| 20:39.02 | ulyx | Neo|Work: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:39.05 | mr_woody | ulyx: roulette |
| 20:39.06 | ulyx | mr_woody: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
| 20:39.19 | chouimat | ulyx: fortune homer |
| 20:39.20 | ulyx | All right, I have thought this through. I will send Bart the money to fly home, then I will murder him. -- Homer Simpson Bart on the Road |
| 20:39.32 | chouimat | ulyx: fortune |
| 20:39.32 | ulyx | If clear thinking created sparks, we could safely store dynamite in James Watt's office. -- Wayne Shannon, KRON-TV |
| 20:39.48 | JasonNJ | ulyx: fortune trek |
| 20:39.49 | ulyx | /usr/share/games/fortune/trek-o: No such file or directory |
| 20:39.56 | JasonNJ | ulyx: fortune SP |
| 20:39.57 | ulyx | Fallen one, I am Satan. I am your god now! There is no escape. Now feel the delightful pain. |
| 20:40.32 | chouimat | ulyx: fortune hitchhicker |
| 20:40.32 | ulyx | /usr/share/games/fortune/hitchhicker-o: No such file or directory |
| 20:40.35 | Neo|Work | trek-o? |
| 20:40.45 | Neo|Work | it has only offensive fortunes ? |
| 20:40.47 | chouimat | ulyx: fortune startrek |
| 20:40.48 | ulyx | We have found all life forms in the galaxy are capable of superior development. -- Kirk, "The Gamesters of Triskelion", stardate 3211.7 |
| 20:48.35 | chouimat | ulyx: fortune startrek |
| 20:48.35 | ulyx | To live is always desirable. -- Eleen the Capellan, "Friday's Child", stardate 3498.9 |
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| 20:51.03 | Freddie | hello everyone |
| 20:51.18 | Freddie | anyone know if kergoth is going to craft another news status for the OZ page soon? :)) |
| 20:51.50 | treke | maybe when there is something new to report |
| 20:51.57 | Freddie | ahhh |
| 20:52.01 | Freddie | I was just going by this: |
| 20:52.13 | Freddie | OpenZaurus 3.1rc3 release within 5-7 days, including bugfixes, Opie running as a nonroot user, a password for the root user, and a Samba server setup by default for convience. |
| 20:52.18 | Freddie | no biggie |
| 20:52.20 | Freddie | was just curious |
| 20:52.36 | kergoth | yes, we call that a rough estimate |
| 20:52.44 | kergoth | I've been busy with non-OZ things |
| 20:52.46 | kergoth | aka real life |
| 20:52.54 | kergoth | perhaps you've heard of it ;) |
| 20:52.59 | Freddie | kergoth: I sincerely hope everything is going ok in your real life |
| 20:53.21 | Freddie | and yes, I know everything about rough estimates |
| 20:53.24 | Freddie | honest |
| 20:53.25 | Freddie | :) |
| 20:55.50 | Freddie | anything you guys could use help with? |
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| 20:56.33 | treke | I could use a new ipaq |
| 20:56.38 | Dilb_d-9 | hi |
| 20:56.42 | Dilb_d-9 | tronical: around ? |
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| 20:57.21 | tronical | Dilb_d-9: a bit :) |
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| 21:01.31 | Harlekin | hi * |
| 21:01.34 | Harlekin | ibot: seen microdim |
| 21:01.39 | | microdim <~amd@adsl-64-169-116-197.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 24d 1h 28m 15s ago, saying: 'what is the diff between "konq - snapshot" and "konq - snapshot - full"'. |
| 21:01.39 | Freddie | howdy |
| 21:06.50 | treke | kergoth: What would be your opinion of an 11 meg patch in buildroot? |
| 21:06.51 | treke | :) |
| 21:07.08 | kergoth | ehhh? |
| 21:07.10 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:07.12 | kergoth | what is it? |
| 21:07.35 | kergoth | oh just add tag support to getsources will you :) |
| 21:07.50 | treke | hehe |
| 21:08.01 | kergoth | just copy what is done for date= |
| 21:08.04 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:08.15 | treke | Yeah I did. And somehow I did it wrong :) |
| 21:08.19 | kergoth | ah |
| 21:08.52 | treke | its been a year or so since I last wrote any perl |
| 21:09.01 | treke | I think I screwed up on scoping somewhere |
| 21:09.27 | treke | best case I'm probably stuck here til midnight |
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| 21:34.01 | ||ugh | kergoth, we should try for a group buy of the Sandisk combo 802.11b/FLASH_memory cards and then go for an SD'less release of your shiney new kernel. What thinks? |
| 21:36.33 | kenb | I'm in. |
| 21:39.25 | chouimat | hi kenb |
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| 21:40.52 | kenb | hi chou - get yer webpal? |
| 21:40.57 | kenb | I got my cf2ide adapters today |
| 21:42.20 | chouimat | kenb: not yet |
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| 21:51.42 | Freddie | anyone know if maxmame works with oz 3.0 now? |
| 21:53.10 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:53.14 | kergoth | 3.0 isnt being worked on |
| 21:53.15 | kergoth | its dead |
| 21:53.17 | Freddie | ok |
| 21:53.19 | Freddie | 3.x |
| 21:53.19 | Freddie | :) |
| 21:53.22 | kergoth | maxmame i hear segfautls in 3.1rc2 |
| 21:53.27 | Freddie | ahh |
| 21:53.27 | kergoth | needs looking into |
| 21:53.29 | Freddie | thanks |
| 21:53.33 | kergoth | I'll talk to lorddavon when he logs on |
| 21:53.39 | kergoth | (hes the maxmame maintainer) |
| 21:53.51 | Freddie | it isn't like it is a huge priority in the grand scheme of things |
| 21:53.54 | Freddie | I was just curious |
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| 21:54.04 | noda | Moo! |
| 21:54.41 | kenb | Meow! |
| 21:55.05 | chouimat | hmmm to much beers last night ... |
| 21:55.21 | chouimat | kenb: I have a cf2ide adapter |
| 21:55.22 | kergoth | yo noda |
| 21:55.30 | chouimat | ulyx fortune |
| 21:55.30 | ulyx | Q: If Tarzan was Jewish, and Jane was a princess, what would Cheetah be? A: A fur coat. |
| 21:55.38 | chouimat | hehe |
| 21:55.40 | noda | kergoth: Moo :) |
| 21:55.55 | noda | kergoth: I'm giving GNOME 2.2 a serious consideration as a replacement to openbox :) |
| 21:56.08 | noda | (it's so purdy :P) |
| 21:56.14 | kergoth | bah, kde 3.1 is purdy too :) |
| 21:56.17 | lsmith | enlightment "foreva"! |
| 21:56.39 | noda | Yeah, but the difference is simplicity. The other day I was using konqueror, I right-clicked and... well... big mistake. A menu fills the entire screen, etc, etc. |
| 21:56.47 | chouimat | I'm looking to install gnustep on another box |
| 21:57.04 | noda | I mean seriously, this desktop is SO simple. And gconf is nice :) |
| 21:57.27 | chouimat | noda: it's your opinion |
| 21:57.35 | noda | chouimat: Yeah, it is. |
| 21:57.52 | chouimat | noda: I hate it :) |
| 21:57.53 | noda | I really think GNOME and KDE cater to different audiences. |
| 21:58.03 | noda | chouimat: Have you tried 2.2? Even simpler than evah! :) |
| 21:58.13 | kergoth | bah, I'll stick to fluxbox |
| 21:58.18 | kergoth | i love the window tabs |
| 21:58.18 | lsmith | gnome 2.2 seems to be going the novice route |
| 21:58.24 | chouimat | noda: try this one : www.gnustep.org |
| 21:58.25 | noda | I probably will too, but I like this :) |
| 21:58.30 | noda | chouimat: It's so UGLY though :P |
| 21:58.43 | ||ugh | GNOME-2.2, simple enough for a Bush to use, and about as useful. |
| 21:58.50 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:58.59 | noda | lsmith: Yep, which is a pretty good idea. Consider: KDE tries to do what Microsoft does, but put in more options - more confusion. |
| 21:59.18 | lsmith | yeah KDE needs some human interface guys |
| 21:59.26 | lsmith | but their framework rocks |
| 21:59.30 | noda | And what you end up with is...well... you right-click on an audio file and can't even figure out how to delete it :) |
| 21:59.33 | noda | Agreed :) |
| 21:59.52 | lsmith | the cpu industry must love them though :-) |
| 21:59.57 | noda | rofl |
| 22:00.10 | noda | Well, gnome isn't exactly cpu-friendly, if compared to anything besides kde :) |
| 22:00.11 | ||ugh | So, if I (can) arrange a buy of CF/FLASH/802.11b cards and we can then just ignore the SD, what do folks think? Temp. solution, yea. Still how many folks would go in on it to get the new kernel going on their Zs? |
| 22:00.27 | Neo|Work | This made me think of kergoth: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030130&mode=classic |
| 22:00.38 | kergoth | ||ugh: its a possibility. again I wont be looking into a decision on it until post-3.1 |
| 22:01.02 | Freddie | Hugh, I don't understand what you are suggesting |
| 22:01.05 | noda | Arrange a buy of CF cards? I don't understand |
| 22:01.16 | lsmith | well i think alot of people use sd/mmc cards to extend their z's ram |
| 22:01.24 | kergoth | s/ram/storage/ |
| 22:01.34 | Neo|Work | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030202&mode=classic isn't bad either. :P |
| 22:01.50 | chouimat | Neo|Work: read today's one |
| 22:01.50 | lsmith | kergoth: err .. correct :-) |
| 22:01.59 | Freddie | I use SD so that my CF is free for other things |
| 22:02.05 | Freddie | oh |
| 22:02.10 | lsmith | well i have ext2 on my sd |
| 22:02.15 | lsmith | and keep fat on my cf card |
| 22:02.17 | Freddie | is he talking about the combo flash/802.11 CF cards? |
| 22:02.19 | noda | Oh, another HUGE reason I don't use KDE is the lack of truly configurable keybindings :P |
| 22:02.39 | ||ugh | There are new cards comming out that are BOTH FLASH memory AND a 802.11b in a single CF card. Thus us 5500 user would NOT need a SD card at all for average usage. |
| 22:02.50 | noda | Oh, that's tempting... |
| 22:02.58 | noda | On the other hand, that would eat more power than a regular flash card. |
| 22:02.58 | Freddie | wouldn't help me |
| 22:03.12 | noda | And we'd have to lug our Z's around with a big lump on 'em. |
| 22:03.13 | Freddie | I use the CF to look at digital camera pics on cf cards |
| 22:03.19 | Freddie | using apps that are installed to SD |
| 22:03.22 | ||ugh | Depends if we can turn the WiFi off when we don't want it. |
| 22:03.27 | Freddie | but you are right, it would help some people |
| 22:03.27 | Neo|Work | chouimat: just did - I just finished reading a few months worth |
| 22:03.42 | noda | It would help some people, but just can't replace SD -- we need two expansion slots :( |
| 22:03.43 | Freddie | besides, I spent a LOT more money on a low power wifi CF card |
| 22:04.05 | Freddie | I am certain that this combo card will use more power than my current card |
| 22:04.31 | teferi | well, isn't that nice. opera crashes. |
| 22:04.32 | ||ugh | It looks like the exact same card as the NetGear, so it's a middle of the road power user. |
| 22:04.42 | Freddie | yeah |
| 22:04.51 | Freddie | my low power card eats my battery alive as it is |
| 22:04.52 | Freddie | :) |
| 22:05.18 | teferi | I guess I'll just go back to konqueror |
| 22:06.07 | chouimat | http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=879 <--- huh? |
| 22:06.47 | gaurdian | How do you tell how much power a wifi card eats...is there a website with that info ? |
| 22:08.38 | treke | usually in the specs for the card |
| 22:08.42 | treke | check your manual or the box |
| 22:08.46 | treke | or the products website |
| 22:08.46 | gaurdian | ok |
| 22:08.55 | chouimat | gaurdian: simple look at your battery life with the card :) |
| 22:09.24 | teferi | -full is even a bit smaller than -snapshot |
| 22:09.30 | kenb | gaurdian: someone did a comparison |
| 22:09.30 | treke | ha |
| 22:09.32 | gaurdian | well I was looking for more of a comparison as to how mine does compared to others really |
| 22:09.35 | treke | teferi: features |
| 22:09.36 | kenb | I remember that page... |
| 22:09.38 | kenb | lemme go fid it |
| 22:09.40 | kenb | find |
| 22:09.40 | teferi | like what? |
| 22:09.42 | gaurdian | thanks |
| 22:09.52 | treke | teferi: ssl support, javascript. dont remember what else |
| 22:09.55 | teferi | ah. |
| 22:10.08 | killefiz | chouimat: strange - i don't want to see anyone pulling their zaurus to calculate my gcs in an emergeny |
| 22:10.12 | treke | full should be larger |
| 22:10.46 | teferi | ...ah, it is. |
| 22:10.48 | kenb | http://www.trowcom.co.uk/Z-Batt.htm |
| 22:11.00 | kenb | ibot: 802.11b comparison is at http://www.trowcom.co.uk/Z-Batt.htm |
| 22:11.00 | | kenb: okay |
| 22:11.02 | gaurdian | Thanks |
| 22:11.19 | chouimat | killefiz: it's as usefull as the contraction calculator :) |
| 22:11.38 | killefiz | chouimat: there is a contraction calculator? |
| 22:11.51 | chouimat | killefiz: yup |
| 22:11.59 | killefiz | chouimat: ahh - expecting |
| 22:12.06 | killefiz | veryy useful |
| 22:12.45 | chouimat | killefiz: hehe ... what useful apps we need? |
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| 22:13.07 | carsten | tach tach |
| 22:13.42 | chouimat | killefiz: any interess in a gaydar for the zaurus? |
| 22:14.02 | treke | gaydar would rock |
| 22:14.04 | Harlekin | chouimat: a real good mailer is needed |
| 22:14.04 | killefiz | chouimat: what is a gaydar? |
| 22:14.24 | chouimat | killefiz: a little palm app |
| 22:14.35 | kenb | http://hannu.daug.net/letters/letters061.htm |
| 22:14.52 | chouimat | Harlekin: I was talking about very usefull apps :) |
| 22:16.06 | chouimat | kenb: huh? |
| 22:29.58 | ||ugh | kenb, that page was nothing but useless pageporn, I get white. Why bother even telling your worst friends about such fools? |
| 22:30.28 | chouimat | ||ugh: I got nothing |
| 22:31.42 | ||ugh | I define 'pageporn' as use of java, javascript, flash and shockwave for titilation rather then information. Oh no, I did not TM all that PROPERTY of big corps! |
| 22:37.10 | chouimat | ||ugh: ok i installed flash and that page is useless |
| 22:37.10 | ulyx | can do! |
| 22:37.23 | chouimat | ulyx: ||ugh? |
| 22:37.23 | ulyx | you best check yo'self |
| 22:37.49 | chouimat | ||ugh: I think you nick cause problem with my bot |
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| 22:41.32 | Dessimat0r | lo all |
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| 22:42.32 | Dessimat0r | lo all |
| 22:42.50 | Dessimat0r | just using a console client while KDE compiles |
| 22:42.53 | Dessimat0r | hehe |
| 22:43.07 | Dessimat0r | can you see this? ;) |
| 22:43.23 | noda | Nope :) |
| 22:44.04 | kergoth | treke: added tag support |
| 22:44.18 | Dessimat0r | can you see this? (without the '/say' prefix |
| 22:44.22 | treke | cool |
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| 22:45.00 | Dessimat0r | bloody hell, the KDE compile just failed |
| 22:45.12 | Dessimat0r | while making 'kde-base' |
| 22:45.49 | Dessimat0r | I've got my bloody CPU and memory underclocked and a fan blowing into the PC! ;) |
| 22:47.16 | Dessimat0r | would enabling the L2 cache ECC check help prevent compilation errors? |
| 22:47.42 | treke | why is open source licensing so fricken hard :) |
| 22:47.46 | kergoth | define 'compilation errors' |
| 22:47.54 | Dessimat0r | segmentation faults |
| 22:47.55 | chouimat | treke: because |
| 22:48.04 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: in what? |
| 22:48.07 | kergoth | treke: bk pull |
| 22:48.09 | noda | segmentation fault? Uh... gcc segfaults? |
| 22:48.20 | Dessimat0r | yup |
| 22:48.34 | noda | Wow, that could be a hardware problem... |
| 22:48.37 | Dessimat0r | underclocking seems to have helped prevent it happening so much |
| 22:48.54 | Dessimat0r | but it still occurs, like just now... *bangs pc* |
| 22:53.45 | Dessimat0r | hrm, seeems that there was a permission denied error with writing to /root/.kde, or something |
| 22:53.56 | Dessimat0r | create .kde, and gave it chmod of 777 |
| 22:54.00 | Dessimat0r | *created |
| 22:58.16 | noda | Dessimat0r: Um. root? |
| 22:58.24 | noda | KDE and root should be as far away from one another as possible :) |
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| 22:58.56 | noda | TheMasterMind1: Moo |
| 22:59.26 | TheMasterMind1 | hey |
| 22:59.28 | TheMasterMind1 | long time no see |
| 22:59.30 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: around? |
| 22:59.32 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: whats that wget command you always tlel people ot use |
| 22:59.41 | noda | rtfm :) |
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| 23:00.33 | Dessimat0r | noda: KDE isn't installed atm, its compling ;) |
| 23:00.43 | noda | Dessimat0r: You compile stuff as root? |
| 23:01.00 | Dessimat0r | well.. yeah |
| 23:01.01 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 23:01.16 | noda | Dessimat0r: Some day you'll learn the error of your ways, and it'll involve a complete reinstallation :P |
| 23:01.38 | Dessimat0r | can emerge cope with being another user? |
| 23:01.53 | noda | It must be able to. |
| 23:02.01 | noda | After all, geeks use that distro :P |
| 23:02.04 | Dessimat0r | hehe |
| 23:02.44 | Dessimat0r | I'm using ircII atm, as my client |
| 23:02.56 | Dessimat0r | its... disconcerting |
| 23:02.57 | Dessimat0r | hehe |
| 23:03.51 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: wget -m -r -np |
| 23:04.23 | kergoth | ircii? ew, use bitchx or irssi.. or even epic for gods sake |
| 23:04.36 | Dessimat0r | it is epic, epic is a mod of ircII |
| 23:04.41 | Dessimat0r | hehe |
| 23:05.05 | kergoth | i know it is |
| 23:05.12 | kergoth | half the existing irc clients are based on ircii :) |
| 23:05.17 | noda | kergoth hangs out on IRC all day, I think he'd know these things :) |
| 23:05.18 | Dessimat0r | aha ;) |
| 23:05.40 | kergoth | ulyx: lart noda |
| 23:05.43 | kergoth | :) |
| 23:05.46 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 23:05.46 | noda | AAAAAAH! |
| 23:05.56 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:05.57 | treke | not gonna let ulyx have all the fun |
| 23:06.04 | kergoth | never look like you're asking to get beaten up in this channel |
| 23:06.08 | kergoth | we're violent bastards, we'll do it |
| 23:06.09 | kergoth | :) |
| 23:06.24 | noda | Wow, you can't see much with 40x24... |
| 23:06.27 | Dessimat0r | we live in gangland, come near us and die :P |
| 23:06.28 | Dessimat0r | hehe |
| 23:06.50 | treke | ulyx roulette |
| 23:06.50 | ulyx | treke: chamber 4 of 6 => +click+ |
| 23:06.54 | Dessimat0r | jiggin' it up me homiez |
| 23:07.16 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 23:07.31 | noda | Wow, my processor is 102% in use (according to this gnome panel applet) |
| 23:08.11 | Dessimat0r | rofl |
| 23:08.16 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:08.21 | kergoth | i just got an email from guylhem aznar |
| 23:08.38 | kergoth | mr idiodic opie article with little basis in fact |
| 23:08.56 | chouimat | kergoth: and? |
| 23:09.15 | Dessimat0r | give us some extracts, kergoth ;) |
| 23:09.29 | kergoth | asking for the xscale optimization flags, busybox and ipkg for c700, and asking my opinion on some ideas to improve the syncing situation |
| 23:09.33 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:10.15 | Dessimat0r | If we held Trolltech to raandson, they might build us a better syncing tool |
| 23:10.15 | chouimat | kergoth: better syncing apps |
| 23:10.43 | treke | Dessimat0r: no |
| 23:10.44 | Dessimat0r | how the hell do you spell ranson |
| 23:10.45 | Dessimat0r | hehe |
| 23:10.50 | noda | ransom |
| 23:10.51 | treke | Dessimat0r: We dont want to force trolltech to write more apps |
| 23:10.53 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 23:10.56 | Dessimat0r | rofl |
| 23:11.00 | Dessimat0r | thats a point. |
| 23:11.03 | kergoth | we definately dont want trolltech writing apps |
| 23:11.07 | treke | Dessimat0r: Maybe if we held troll tech ransom they'd stop writing them :) |
| 23:11.08 | noda | lol |
| 23:11.11 | kergoth | they need to stick to qt/e maintainance |
| 23:11.24 | kergoth | and leave qtopia in the hands of the opie devs |
| 23:11.38 | treke | they make a wonderful toolkit... but their apps all suck |
| 23:11.48 | Dessimat0r | hehe |
| 23:11.51 | kergoth | well, libqpe blows goats too |
| 23:12.05 | noda | That'd be very neat, if they actually depended on the open-source community for their code to succeed... |
| 23:12.06 | kergoth | libqte is nice tho :) |
| 23:12.15 | treke | kergoth: maybe they should just close trolltech australia |
| 23:12.18 | kergoth | treke: hehe |
| 23:12.22 | noda | Guess they wouldn't be able to do that though, since they need to be able to license binaries. |
| 23:12.30 | treke | and kill everyone who works there |
| 23:12.35 | kergoth | noda: the lib could be lgpl. |
| 23:12.36 | Dessimat0r | The Australian code is upside-down? |
| 23:12.48 | kergoth | noda: but i see your point.. they'd lose money |
| 23:12.55 | kergoth | noda: so they should just focus on the lib then, fuck the apps |
| 23:13.10 | noda | But they need that embedded environment or they have nothing to offer :) |
| 23:13.16 | kergoth | ? |
| 23:13.20 | kergoth | the lib is what they offer |
| 23:13.24 | kergoth | they can include the opie apps. |
| 23:13.29 | noda | No company is going to BUY the library, only to have to get the apps with GPL. |
| 23:13.33 | kergoth | they just cant licenset he opie app source for users alterations |
| 23:13.36 | kergoth | why? |
| 23:13.43 | kergoth | so the company has to release changes to the opie apps |
| 23:13.45 | kergoth | big deal |
| 23:13.49 | treke | noda: they do it with the kernel |
| 23:13.56 | noda | Oh, I guess :) |
| 23:14.13 | noda | Well I dunno, I've never been quite clear on why companies buy any licenses when there are gpl versions available :P |
| 23:14.17 | kergoth | the lib is what they're paying for. being able to tweak the apps without releasing is just a small extra bit. |
| 23:14.28 | kergoth | the lib is gpl. |
| 23:14.32 | treke | noda: Because it's easier to pay the developers to fix bugs than to have to do it yourself |
| 23:14.35 | kergoth | you cant link commercial closed source apps against a gpl library. |
| 23:14.42 | kergoth | therefore they _must_ pay for libqpe. |
| 23:14.46 | noda | Ah |
| 23:14.54 | noda | kergoth: Um. You sure? |
| 23:15.00 | treke | noda: yes |
| 23:15.02 | kergoth | yes. |
| 23:15.12 | kergoth | you cannot llink a closed source app against a gpl library without gpl infecting the app |
| 23:15.21 | kergoth | and you'd then be in violation of the GPL for not releasing the source to the app. |
| 23:15.22 | noda | s/uses/used |
| 23:15.27 | treke | noda: nope |
| 23:15.32 | kergoth | nope. they cant. not legally. |
| 23:15.34 | treke | noda: crossover is lgpl |
| 23:15.41 | kergoth | GPL is infectious. LGPL is not. |
| 23:15.42 | noda | Oh, I get it, they use the lgpl ones like glibc... |
| 23:15.53 | treke | noda: last i checked, the source was on their website |
| 23:16.12 | Dessimat0r | man, the GPL is complicated |
| 23:16.21 | chouimat | Dessimat0r: yup |
| 23:16.25 | treke | that and codeweavers gives wine whatever code they want to take :) |
| 23:16.27 | kergoth | its not _that_ complecated. |
| 23:16.31 | noda | treke: Crossover plugin and crossover office? No, they're closed. |
| 23:16.39 | treke | noda: Last I checked they are open. |
| 23:16.42 | kergoth | its a simple license with some ambiguities and some far reachign consequences. |
| 23:16.55 | noda | They ARE? Hell, I didn't know that :) |
| 23:17.03 | treke | I'm looking for the source right now |
| 23:17.15 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 23:17.21 | kergoth | treke: test that tag= support when you get a chance |
| 23:18.08 | treke | I will. doing the work thing right now :) |
| 23:18.38 | kergoth | ah yeah |
| 23:18.40 | Dessimat0r | I think that gcc may have segfaulted before due to the the fact I was building EPIC4 as well as kdebase at the same time |
| 23:18.41 | treke | actually doing the licensing thing right now :) |
| 23:18.42 | kergoth | me too, but out of calls |
| 23:19.47 | treke | trying to figure out what has to be gpl and what has to be lgpl, and what we can do what we want with :) |
| 23:20.30 | Neo|Work | man, 'icc' kicks ass in performance |
| 23:20.36 | kergoth | yup |
| 23:21.41 | Neo|Work | some artificial benchmarks of Pike, on P4, shows 8-29% increase in performance |
| 23:21.49 | Dessimat0r | yeah, but I have an AMD processor, will it still work? |
| 23:21.50 | Dessimat0r | hehe |
| 23:21.57 | Neo|Work | non-P4 has some losses but in general is better |
| 23:22.06 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 23:22.20 | Dessimat0r | I'm compliling with many optimisation flags |
| 23:22.39 | Dessimat0r | -O3 -fomit-frame-pointers, many others |
| 23:22.44 | Neo|Work | right |
| 23:22.58 | Neo|Work | of course I'm sure you know that "many others" usually are included in -OX |
| 23:23.08 | Neo|Work | meaning, -march might help |
| 23:23.38 | Neo|Work | one nice thing with icc is that it can compile processor specific code for multiple cpu's including 386 fallback in the same binary, automatically |
| 23:23.58 | Dessimat0r | nice |
| 23:24.24 | Dessimat0r | But how much bloat does that add onto a binary? |
| 23:24.31 | Neo|Work | I don't know how that extra choice makes, runtime |
| 23:24.35 | Neo|Work | not a heck of a whole lot |
| 23:24.38 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 23:24.40 | Neo|Work | since most code is shared |
| 23:24.47 | Dessimat0r | I see |
| 23:25.40 | Neo|Work | well, significant I guess |
| 23:25.56 | Neo|Work | 1502864 (gcc) 2166940 icc |
| 23:26.05 | Neo|Work | 30% roughtly |
| 23:26.25 | Neo|Work | but binary size differs otherwise too, so it might not at all be that specific optimization |
| 23:26.37 | Neo|Work | also, this is a pure C program - in C++ icc is apparently much better |
| 23:26.49 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 23:26.55 | Neo|Work | C++ on P4 is where it shines. :P |
| 23:27.03 | Neo|Work | but alas, no benchmarks on that |
| 23:27.15 | Dessimat0r | Has AMD ever made a C compiler? |
| 23:27.31 | Neo|Work | not afaik |
| 23:27.39 | Dessimat0r | ah, they should ;) |
| 23:27.51 | kergoth | no they shouldnt |
| 23:28.00 | kergoth | they should have a couple people work on the gcc project |
| 23:28.06 | kergoth | then they'd get a good rep in the community as well |
| 23:28.10 | Neo|Work | sure |
| 23:28.11 | Dessimat0r | yeah, a better idea |
| 23:28.27 | Neo|Work | looks like gcc is getting some new cool stuff though |
| 23:28.33 | Neo|Work | new C++ parser and precompiled headers |
| 23:28.38 | kergoth | yeah |
| 23:28.39 | Neo|Work | which will be in 3.4 I think |
| 23:28.45 | Dessimat0r | cool ;) |
| 23:28.49 | chouimat | Neo|Work: and new frontend too |
| 23:28.54 | kergoth | 3.2.2 is out, right? |
| 23:28.57 | Neo|Work | yes |
| 23:29.05 | kergoth | cool |
| 23:29.19 | kergoth | should rebuild our 3.2 toolchain on the site once simon cleans up the build failure |
| 23:29.54 | Neo|Work | which reminds me, I never did get that gcc 3.2 build env so I can make 3.2 / opie binaries of games. :P |
| 23:30.02 | treke | neo just needs to rebuild his apps with 3.2 and i can say bye bye gcc 2 :) |
| 23:30.08 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:30.27 | Dessimat0r | You know Tony Blair's wife? She came to our college today ;) |
| 23:30.31 | kergoth | Neo|Work: i have the gcc3 toolchain, just not the x86/sharp opie sdk, figured i'd teach the opie buildsystem to produce an sdk instead |
| 23:30.51 | Neo|Work | I don't need x86 really, just arm |
| 23:30.57 | chouimat | kergoth: good idea :) |
| 23:31.04 | Neo|Work | but I get what you mean |
| 23:31.12 | kergoth | chouimat: its just about ready to roll, but harlekin wanted me to hold off on it for a couple weeks |
| 23:31.45 | Neo|Work | wonder why mhy apt-get downloads from kernel.org keep stalling |
| 23:31.50 | Dessimat0r | How do you increase the resolution of the linux console? |
| 23:31.52 | chouimat | kergoth: just send my the diff I will patch my buildsystem here |
| 23:32.08 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: vga= on the kernel commandline, or use a vga console on FB |
| 23:32.16 | Dessimat0r | ah, thanks ker ;) |
| 23:32.29 | kergoth | chouimat: opie already has 'make install', but each of the .pro files need altering to put the files in the right places |
| 23:32.46 | Dessimat0r | vga=1280x1024 ? |
| 23:32.52 | kergoth | no |
| 23:32.55 | kergoth | go rtfm |
| 23:32.59 | kergoth | Documentation/ in the kernel tree |
| 23:33.00 | Dessimat0r | alright |
| 23:33.01 | Dessimat0r | hehe |
| 23:33.06 | chouimat | Dessimat0r: /usr/src/linux/Documentations/fb |
| 23:33.11 | kergoth | yeah, that |
| 23:33.17 | kergoth | you cna either use fb, or a vga text console |
| 23:33.19 | kergoth | either way |
| 23:33.30 | Dessimat0r | thanks ;) |
| 23:34.53 | Neo|Work | man, wish I had a dollar |
| 23:35.21 | *** join/#openembedded carsten (~cniehaus@p508211B6.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:38.31 | Dessimat0r | hrm, it just segfaulted on scrnsave.cpp |
| 23:39.02 | Dessimat0r | I'm off to see if i can tweak my bios for stability any more |
| 23:39.04 | Dessimat0r | hehe |
| 23:39.05 | Dessimat0r | brb |
| 23:40.43 | Neo|Work | be over already!!! |
| 23:41.12 | Neo|Work | perhaps I should take an early friday |
| 23:41.15 | kergoth | heheh |
| 23:41.19 | kergoth | i'm stuck here for another hour & 20 mins |
| 23:41.36 | Neo|Work | I should be here for another time period along those lines |
| 23:41.41 | chouimat | damn! my head hurt |
| 23:42.38 | ljp | feel any better? |
| 23:42.39 | Neo|Work | i just don't WANT to |
| 23:43.04 | chouimat | ljp: just drank too much last night |
| 23:43.37 | ljp | hahaha |
| 23:43.58 | ljp | drink a bloody mary |
| 23:43.59 | chouimat | ljp: about 45$ |
| 23:44.36 | kergoth | I'm out of tequila, sour mix, brandy & cognac, and scotch |
| 23:44.38 | kergoth | bleh |
| 23:45.01 | ljp | bummer |
| 23:45.11 | chouimat | need to go to the grocery, need food |
| 23:45.13 | kergoth | no kidding, i hate spending money on alcohol |
| 23:45.22 | kergoth | yeah me too |
| 23:45.22 | ljp | I need to teach my cat how to clean the house, cook for me, and make me drinks |
| 23:46.00 | chouimat|away | ljp: tried that with mine and his coffee is undrinkable |
| 23:46.16 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:46.17 | ljp | hmmm |
| 23:46.27 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune |
| 23:46.28 | ulyx | Champagne don't make me lazy. Cocaine don't drive me crazy. Ain't nobody's business but my own. -- Taj Mahal |
| 23:46.29 | ljp | use Folger's eh? |
| 23:46.35 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune |
| 23:46.36 | ulyx | Our [softball] team usually puts the other woman at second base, where the maximum possible number of males can get there on short notice to help out in case of emergency. As far as I can tell, our second basewoman is a pretty good baseball player, better than I am, anyway, but there's no way to know for sure because if the ball gets anywhere near her, a male comes barging over from, say, right field, to |
| 23:46.36 | ulyx | deal with it. She's been on the team for three seasons now, but the males still don't trust her. They know, deep in their souls, that if she had to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she probably would elect to save the infant's life, without ever considering whether there were men on base. -- Dave Barry, "Sports is a Drag" |
| 23:46.57 | chouimat|away | ljp: just bought 4 kg of folger's yesterday |
| 23:47.11 | ljp | oh man, I hate that crap |
| 23:47.19 | ljp | get the good stuff |
| 23:47.52 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune |
| 23:47.53 | ulyx | An egg has the shortest sex-life of all: it gets laid once; it gets eaten once. It also has to come in a box with 11 others, and the only person who will sit on its face is its mother. |
| 23:47.58 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune |
| 23:47.59 | ulyx | If the American dream is for Americans only, it will remain our dream and never be our destiny. -- Ren'e de Visme Williamson |
| 23:48.05 | chouimat|away | ljp: it's better than the chien d'or we have here .... and I'm tired of maxwell house ... so I won't buy coffee for the next for months |
| 23:48.34 | chouimat|away | ulyx fortune homer |
| 23:48.34 | ulyx | There are perfectly good answers to those questions, but they'll have to wait for another night. -- Homer Simpson Homers Barbershop Quartet |
| 23:48.40 | chouimat|away | ulyx fortune |
| 23:48.41 | ulyx | "Dear Mr. Seldes: I cannot remember the exact wording of the statement to which you allude; but what I meant was that ... a man who calls himself a 100% American and is proud of it, is generally 150% an idiot politically. But the designations may be good business for war veterans. Having bled for their country in 1861 and 1918, they have bled it all they could consequently. And why not?" -- George |
| 23:48.41 | ulyx | Seldes, "The Great Quotations" |
| 23:48.57 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune |
| 23:48.57 | ulyx | If Reagan is the answer, it must have been a VERY silly question. |
| 23:48.59 | ljp | I cant drink that canned stuff. not the good kind of beans |
| 23:49.04 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune |
| 23:49.05 | ulyx | Republicans tend to keep their shades drawn, although there is seldom any reason why they should. Democrats ought to, but don't. |
| 23:49.09 | ljp | too acidic |
| 23:49.57 | chouimat|away | ljp: i used to buy coffee beans but the place closed so |
| 23:50.05 | chouimat|away | ulyx fortune |
| 23:50.05 | ulyx | Statisticians do it with 95% confidence. |
| 23:50.09 | chouimat|away | ulyx fortune |
| 23:50.09 | ulyx | "I've had one child. My husband wants to have another. I'd like to watch him have another." |
| 23:50.14 | chouimat|away | ulyx fortune |
| 23:50.15 | ulyx | All a hacker needs is a tight PUSHJ, a loose pair of UUOs, and a warm place to shift. |
| 23:50.25 | chouimat|away | ulyx fortune |
| 23:50.26 | ulyx | "White House carpenters have reworked the master bedroom, remodeling it so that Ronnie can sleep with his head in the hall. That way, by the time he wakes up, somebody will have already shined his hair." |
| 23:50.36 | Neo|Work | ulyx shut up |
| 23:50.41 | Neo|Work | grr |
| 23:50.45 | kergoth | ulyx: pester Neo|Work |
| 23:50.57 | chouimat|away | ulyx lart Neo|Work |
| 23:51.06 | kergoth | ibot: pester Neo|Work |
| 23:51.07 | | Neo|Work: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? |
| 23:51.25 | Neo|Work | ulyx needs to die die die |
| 23:51.26 | Neo|Work | and die |
| 23:51.34 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune SP |
| 23:51.35 | ulyx | You bet your fucking ass it was! |
| 23:51.52 | chouimat|away | kergoth: I will add pester to ulyx, just need to hack lart |
| 23:51.57 | chouimat|away | ulyx fortune |
| 23:51.58 | ulyx | A nymph hits you and steals your virginity. |
| 23:52.11 | ljp | pizza |
| 23:52.18 | chouimat|away | ulyx fortune |
| 23:52.18 | ulyx | "Tom Hayden is the kind of politician who gives opportunism a bad name." -- Gore Vidal |
| 23:52.28 | chouimat|away | ulyx fortune chalkboard |
| 23:52.28 | ulyx | SPITWADS ARE NOT FREE SPEECH SPITWADS ARE NOT FREE SPEECH SPITWADS ARE NOT FREE SPEECH SPITWADS ARE NOT FREE SPEECH Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode 8F01 |
| 23:53.39 | chouimat|away | ulyx fortune chalkboard |
| 23:53.39 | ulyx | I WILL NOT CARVE GODS I WILL NOT CARVE GODS I WILL NOT CARVE GODS I WILL NOT CARVE GODS Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode 8F11 |
| 23:53.57 | treke | ulyx fortune SP |
| 23:53.57 | ulyx | Suck my balls! |
| 23:54.11 | chouimat|away | ulyx fortune SP |
| 23:54.12 | ulyx | Suck my balls! |
| 23:54.18 | chouimat|away | ulyx no |
| 23:54.24 | chouimat|away | ulyx fortune SP |
| 23:54.24 | ulyx | Dude! That movie was fucking sweet! |
| 23:54.50 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune SP |
| 23:54.51 | ulyx | Blame Canada! |
| 23:54.53 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune SP |
| 23:54.53 | ulyx | You're a fucking faggot, dude. |
| 23:54.55 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune SP |
| 23:54.55 | ulyx | Aw, ma! He's not even my real brother, he's adopted. |
| 23:55.00 | chouimat|away | ulyx fortune homer |
| 23:55.00 | ulyx | I saw weird stuff in that place last night. Weird, strange, sick, twisted, eerie, godless, evil stuff. And I want in. -- Homer Simpson Homer the Great |
| 23:55.09 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune SP |
| 23:55.09 | ulyx | You'd fuck your uncle! |
| 23:55.10 | chouimat|away | ulyx fortune hitchiker |
| 23:55.11 | ulyx | /usr/share/games/fortune/hitchiker-o: No such file or directory |
| 23:55.13 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune SP |
| 23:55.13 | ulyx | You shitfaced cockmaster. |
| 23:55.16 | chouimat|away | ulyx fortune hitchhiker |
| 23:55.16 | ulyx | "...[Arthur] leapt to his feet like an author hearing the phone ring..." - Who says that the character of Arthur isn't autobiographical? |
| 23:55.30 | chouimat|away | ulyx fortune hitchhiker |
| 23:55.31 | ulyx | "`What's been happening here?' he demanded. `Oh just the nicest things, sir, just the nicest things. can I sit on your lap please?'" "`Colin, I am going to abandon you to your fate.' `I'm so happy.'" "`It will be very, very nasty for you, and that's just too bad. Got it?' `I gurgle with pleasure.'" - Ford and Colin the robot. |
| 23:55.58 | chouimat|away | ulyx fortune ascii-art |
| 23:55.59 | ulyx | SANTA IS BRINGING GOOD WISHES FROM ALL THE MICRO ARTISTS GANG! MAY 1988 BE A HAPPY YEAR! \__\_ :. ___/ ..\ /-- :.______ : .:* : . _ .: :.. . : . . : ()_ .: (( \. :./(__ :._O_)________:______,____:____/ *\_o ====(( \: (****) (***) :. ...: .. . ()_______/\\ __-' \____(( \ ()oo()_/ /.: : ..________/_____ll -/.: .. ( (( \(())))__/ . .. \\.: ..( |
| 23:55.59 | ulyx | ) ll ( l_.: ( / (( \__*__)___:___ : : )) .) /--------\ \ \ ( / ((_____________) .. // . / / /..:: . )_)_\ (____/_____________________\__// : /_/_/ :.. :/_/ \_\ /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ /_/_/ |
| 23:56.16 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune SP |
| 23:56.17 | ulyx | Fuck my ass and call me a bitch! |
| 23:56.19 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune SP |
| 23:56.20 | ulyx | Dude! That movie was fucking sweet! |
| 23:56.21 | Neo|Work | for crying out loud! |
| 23:56.25 | kergoth | lol |
| 23:56.28 | *** part/#openembedded Neo|Work (~neotron@207.188.30.40) |
| 23:56.45 | kergoth | we scared off neo with fortune |
| 23:57.51 | chouimat|away | ulyx fortune bofh-excuses |
| 23:57.51 | ulyx | BOFH Excuse #423: It's not RFC-822 compliant. |
| 23:57.57 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune hitchhiker |
| 23:57.58 | ulyx | "What are you talking about? " "Never mind, eat the fruit. " "You know, this place almost looks like the Garden of Eden. " "Eat the fruit. " "Sounds quite like it too. " |
| 23:58.07 | chouimat|away | ulyx rfc 822? |
| 23:58.07 | ulyx | rfc 822 is Standard for the format of ARPA Internet text messages. D. Crocker. Aug-13-1982. (Format: TXT=109200 bytes) (Obsoletes RFC0733) (Updated by RFC1123, RFC1138, RFC1148, RFC1327) (Also STD0011) (Status: STANDARD) |
| 23:58.19 | chouimat|away | ulyx fortune bofh-excuses |
| 23:58.20 | ulyx | BOFH Excuse #140: LBNC (luser brain not connected) |
| 23:58.39 | chouimat|away | ulyx fortune bofh-excuses |
| 23:58.39 | ulyx | BOFH Excuse #253: We've run out of licenses |
| 23:59.02 | kergoth | LBNC, i like that |
| 23:59.20 | kergoth | ulyx: fortune hitchhiker |
| 23:59.21 | ulyx | "Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mindboggingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as the final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God. "The argument goes something like this: `I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, `for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.' "`But,' says Man, `The Babel fish |
| 23:59.21 | ulyx | is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.' |
| 23:59.33 | chouimat|away | kergoth: why neo|work left? |
| 23:59.43 | kergoth | chouimat|away: i think he got tired of fortune |
| 23:59.50 | chouimat|away | ulyx fortune bofh-excuses |
| 23:59.50 | ulyx | BOFH Excuse #354: Chewing gum on /dev/sd3c |