| 00:02.44 | kergoth | wow |
| 00:02.49 | kergoth | schurig's patcher tool is sweet |
| 00:03.30 | treke | hehe today is one of those days you just want to go home :) |
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| 00:04.41 | chouimat | kergoth: where is it? in buildroot? |
| 00:04.51 | kergoth | chouimat: scripts/patcher |
| 00:04.54 | kergoth | play around |
| 00:05.28 | chouimat | how is it working? |
| 00:05.34 | kergoth | well, its very cool |
| 00:05.38 | kergoth | you can apply numerous patches |
| 00:05.43 | kergoth | and revert any of them at any time |
| 00:05.53 | kergoth | and make alterations, and run it to repath |
| 00:05.55 | kergoth | repatch |
| 00:06.02 | kergoth | instead of copying source trees around and diffing manually |
| 00:06.15 | treke | nice |
| 00:06.34 | chouimat | kergoth: that worth keeping in the next build system :) |
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| 00:07.28 | kergoth | chouimat: exactly |
| 00:08.39 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: okay, have us with orinoco 0.11b + spectrum + moustafa/jesus in 2 patches |
| 00:08.46 | chouimat | ibot: seen schurig |
| 00:08.47 | | schurig <~schurig@pD951A7A9.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #openembedded, 4d 7h 49m 30s ago, saying: 'and no, it was not in the year 2001 :-)'. |
| 00:08.52 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: all thats left is your modified monitor mode patch |
| 00:08.53 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: cool |
| 00:10.33 | kergoth | jeeze |
| 00:10.35 | kergoth | okay |
| 00:10.40 | kergoth | adding to buildroot properly |
| 00:11.16 | TheMasterMind1 | sweet |
| 00:11.20 | TheMasterMind1 | send that to shmoo for me |
| 00:11.25 | TheMasterMind1 | stick my name in the code too |
| 00:11.26 | TheMasterMind1 | :) |
| 00:11.30 | kergoth | will do |
| 00:11.39 | chouimat | woohoo! now I know why I'm so tired and I don't feel to do my work |
| 00:11.41 | kergoth | ~/coding/userspace/buildroot-2.95/packages/spectrum$ ls |
| 00:11.42 | kergoth | . SCCS or0.11b-spectrum0.3.7-scan.patch |
| 00:11.45 | kergoth | .. or0.11b-spectrum0.3.7-scan-monitor.patch or0.11b-spectrum0.3.7.patch |
| 00:11.45 | kergoth | heheh |
| 00:12.19 | kergoth | what should we call this? |
| 00:12.22 | TheMasterMind1 | chouimat: any more 20 page emails? |
| 00:12.27 | kergoth | its really an orinoco package that happens to support spectrum_cs |
| 00:12.31 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 00:12.32 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 00:12.37 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm using it on my laptop :) |
| 00:12.42 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: no, I have a mononucleose |
| 00:12.45 | TheMasterMind1 | active scanning is nice |
| 00:12.47 | kergoth | should we split them? orinoco-modules, spectrum_cs-modules |
| 00:12.49 | TheMasterMind1 | chouimat: oofh! |
| 00:12.52 | TheMasterMind1 | that's awful |
| 00:12.53 | kergoth | or one orinoco-modules |
| 00:13.31 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: yup and since I don't miss school it's worst |
| 00:13.55 | TheMasterMind1 | chouimat: how do you know yo uhave it |
| 00:14.12 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: the doctor just called with the results |
| 00:14.28 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: this works on both 2.4.6 and 2.4.19? |
| 00:14.31 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: or just 2.4.19? |
| 00:14.40 | kergoth | re: WE version |
| 00:14.41 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:14.48 | ljp | woot! |
| 00:14.51 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: hmm, it needs we16 |
| 00:15.00 | TheMasterMind1 | all the mustafa/scanning stuff does |
| 00:15.04 | kergoth | right |
| 00:15.06 | kergoth | but its not ifdefed out |
| 00:15.09 | kergoth | on WE version? |
| 00:15.14 | TheMasterMind1 | it is |
| 00:15.17 | TheMasterMind1 | most of it anyway |
| 00:15.23 | kergoth | so does it work on 2.4.6? |
| 00:15.25 | kergoth | i'll build a package |
| 00:15.29 | kergoth | wanna test it out? |
| 00:15.49 | TheMasterMind1 | not right now, but i can do it sometime |
| 00:15.53 | kergoth | we can just yank the scanning bits if need be for the 2.4.6 build |
| 00:15.56 | ljp | guess whom has another job interview |
| 00:15.58 | TheMasterMind1 | i really need to get my Z working again |
| 00:16.00 | kergoth | ljp: nice |
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| 00:17.01 | ljp | and kde 3.1 only took 5 hours to build |
| 00:18.32 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: what are the spectrum package names for sharp rom? spectrum_cs? |
| 00:18.44 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: shoudl Replaces it just in case peopel try to use it in OZ |
| 00:19.00 | ljp | hmm looks alot like rc5 :D |
| 00:19.24 | chouimat | ljp: athleon 2.5? |
| 00:19.39 | ljp | kde |
| 00:20.04 | ljp | athleon? whats that? |
| 00:20.17 | chouimat | ljp: the cpu ? |
| 00:20.44 | ljp | oh no. I had 3 machines p 1000, p500 and p200 |
| 00:20.57 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: probably.. |
| 00:21.22 | ljp | I think thats only a 200 |
| 00:21.38 | chouimat | kergoth: qplus chapter 7: Adding custom application to your project |
| 00:22.15 | ljp | hey! no segfault on exit of kde apps |
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| 00:22.26 | ljp | gosh, I'm going to miss that |
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| 00:28.55 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: |
| 00:28.56 | kergoth | orinoco.c: In function `orinoco_ioctl': |
| 00:28.56 | kergoth | orinoco.c:4182: warning: passing arg 3 of `orinoco_ioctl_getname' from incompatible pointer type |
| 00:28.59 | kergoth | orinoco.c:4501: warning: passing arg 2 of `orinoco_wlansniff' from incompatible pointer type |
| 00:29.02 | kergoth | orinoco.c:4501: too few arguments to function `orinoco_wlansniff' |
| 00:33.02 | TheMasterMind1 | whoa |
| 00:33.08 | TheMasterMind1 | kde3.1 released? |
| 00:33.11 | kergoth | yep |
| 00:33.20 | kergoth | those errors are from your tree :) |
| 00:33.24 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: that's with .6? |
| 00:33.29 | kergoth | yep |
| 00:33.33 | kergoth | probably the ifdef madness |
| 00:33.40 | drw | kergoth/ljp: We need qte-2.3.4-beta4 now to build opie? |
| 00:34.16 | kergoth | drw: yes, due to the inlined function in qpeapplicaation which utilizes a 2.3.4-beta4 specific method |
| 00:34.30 | kergoth | drw: hence the updated Depends in libqpe1.control |
| 00:34.41 | TheMasterMind1 | /home/agupta/linux-arm-2.4-collie/include/asm/semaphore.h:88: unknown register name `ip' in `asm' |
| 00:34.42 | TheMasterMind1 | /home/agupta/linux-arm-2.4-collie/include/asm/semaphore.h: In function `down_interruptible': |
| 00:34.42 | TheMasterMind1 | /home/agupta/linux-arm-2.4-collie/include/asm/semaphore.h:101: unknown register name `lr' in `asm' |
| 00:34.42 | TheMasterMind1 | /home/agupta/linux-arm-2.4-collie/include/asm/semaphore.h:101: unknown register name `ip' in `asm' |
| 00:34.43 | TheMasterMind1 | oof |
| 00:34.49 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: fun |
| 00:34.58 | TheMasterMind1 | didn't used to happen before |
| 00:35.01 | TheMasterMind1 | something changed |
| 00:35.03 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: its trying to build non arm asm |
| 00:35.17 | TheMasterMind1 | but why |
| 00:35.20 | kergoth | sounds like you dont have ARCH=arm in teh root makefile |
| 00:35.22 | kergoth | or something |
| 00:35.25 | kergoth | do a mrproper/distclean |
| 00:35.26 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 00:35.28 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 00:35.40 | drw | kergoth: thanks |
| 00:35.44 | kergoth | drw: np |
| 00:37.42 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm wtf, why won't it build |
| 00:37.51 | TheMasterMind1 | it used to work just fine |
| 00:38.24 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: wheres the patch from ian goldberg for monitor mode for spectrum_cs, but not w/ scanning? |
| 00:38.38 | kergoth | found his page with the package |
| 00:38.39 | kergoth | but not the source |
| 00:38.49 | kergoth | I'm sure we applied it to our in kernel spectrum drivers |
| 00:38.53 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: monitor mode in spectrum is from shmoo |
| 00:38.53 | kergoth | guess i could diff it back out |
| 00:38.57 | TheMasterMind1 | no special patch for it |
| 00:39.01 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: no, ian goldberg altered it |
| 00:39.08 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: oh, that |
| 00:39.10 | kergoth | From this page, you can find socketspecdriver_0.3.4-2_arm.ipk, which is version 0.3.4 of the Spectrum/Socket CF driver by Pavel Roskin. It also has a modified version of Snax's monitor mode patch applied, which will be useful later. |
| 00:39.15 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: its been incorporated into the shmoo patch |
| 00:39.16 | TheMasterMind1 | the latest one |
| 00:39.24 | TheMasterMind1 | it says its for pcmcia but it patches fine |
| 00:39.30 | kergoth | which latest one? |
| 00:39.37 | kergoth | 3.2.1? pcmcia-cs? |
| 00:39.38 | kergoth | k |
| 00:39.43 | ljp | funny ozzy commercial |
| 00:40.08 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: yep, the issue with spectrum and the 8.x orinoco flash were the same |
| 00:40.19 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: ah |
| 00:40.33 | ljp | hmm is it pizza night? |
| 00:40.48 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: the compile errors you're seing, they're in an ifdef for older wireless extensions. easy enough to fix, just change it so its calling the function properly, the function headers all changed |
| 00:40.59 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: ah, cool |
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| 00:46.14 | kergoth | hmm, need to talk to schurig |
| 00:46.17 | kergoth | we should enhance patcher further |
| 00:47.03 | TheMasterMind1 | http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/fbdesk/ |
| 00:47.04 | TheMasterMind1 | sweet! |
| 00:53.30 | angry | now fluxbox can start its quest to be just like the other window managers! ;) |
| 00:53.40 | ljp | icons are for sissies |
| 00:54.04 | treke | we. more icons on your desk that you never see |
| 00:54.30 | ljp | what would be cool is a wm based on a term. complete with ascii icons! |
| 00:54.58 | angry | like them badass DOS menus? |
| 00:55.20 | ljp | better |
| 00:55.34 | ljp | with ascii taskbar and pager |
| 00:55.48 | chouimat|food | ascii art rules!!!! |
| 00:57.21 | kergoth | hmm |
| 00:57.31 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: should I install a hermes.conf with orinoco? |
| 00:57.47 | TheMasterMind1 | i guess |
| 00:57.54 | kergoth | if i do, it'll be earlier than hostap_cs.conf |
| 00:58.06 | kergoth | and it'll get used before hostap for certain cards |
| 00:58.15 | kergoth | which we dont want |
| 00:58.30 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 00:58.33 | treke | grrrrrrrr |
| 00:58.37 | kergoth | you know what would be cool.. is to use update-alternatives to manage a list of config files |
| 00:58.42 | kergoth | and use that to control the order in which they're loaded |
| 00:58.44 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:58.56 | kergoth | then you could manipulate it to up the priority of orinoco or whatever to switch drivers |
| 01:00.14 | chouimat|food | people are morons: they asked them the cost of 1 ton of salt we put on the road in winters, and some of them answered 1000, 500 000$ ..... |
| 01:02.40 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: spectrum/orinoco is in bk, im headin home |
| 01:02.57 | chouimat|food | bye kergoth`bbl |
| 01:09.33 | effy-kun | morning folks |
| 01:24.29 | ljp | hi |
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| 01:28.51 | james_lan-deskto | whats up |
| 01:29.23 | james_lan-deskto | aside from not my wlan card :) |
| 01:39.23 | ljp | notta |
| 01:39.34 | james_lan-deskto | well drat |
| 01:39.39 | effy-kun | sup ljp |
| 01:39.44 | james_lan-deskto | something interesting has to be going on |
| 01:39.46 | ljp | hello |
| 01:40.17 | ljp | compiling is interesting |
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| 01:50.56 | treke | wow. task-opie actually works for once |
| 01:51.32 | james_lan-deskto | it wasn't working? |
| 01:51.47 | treke | james_lan-deskto: No it wasnt |
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| 01:54.15 | james_lan-deskto | btw, I have noticed that opie has a several second (30+ at times) when inserting a particular cf card (with vfat) and sometimes crashes completely. running fsck.vfat results in "bus error" |
| 02:00.44 | ljp | moon song? |
| 02:01.06 | chouimat|food | ljp http://www.rathergood.com/moon_song |
| 02:04.52 | chouimat|food | ljp: so? |
| 02:07.03 | ljp | hmm no flash on this machine |
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| 02:35.57 | kergoth | hey |
| 02:37.21 | ljp | yo |
| 02:42.25 | drw | kergoth: welcome back |
| 02:42.56 | ljp | burp |
| 02:43.13 | chouimat | ulyx: lart ljp |
| 02:45.25 | ljp | fart |
| 02:45.40 | kergoth | drw: thanks |
| 02:46.13 | ljp | where'd ya go? |
| 02:46.31 | kergoth | ? |
| 02:46.32 | kergoth | i went home |
| 02:46.33 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:46.49 | ljp | ahh good place to go |
| 02:46.55 | kergoth | yea |
| 02:47.05 | kergoth | much better than say.. work for example |
| 02:47.27 | ljp | I canactually get work done here at home - less distractions |
| 02:47.59 | drw | yep, same here...much more productive at home |
| 02:48.15 | ljp | :) funny how that works |
| 02:48.26 | kergoth | indeed |
| 02:50.33 | ljp | hmm |
| 02:51.03 | ljp | you need an office to go to to get distracted at so you can go home and be productive |
| 02:51.27 | kergoth | ernel source request |
| 02:51.32 | kergoth | er |
| 02:51.33 | kergoth | mispaste |
| 02:51.38 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:51.54 | ljp | hmm |
| 02:52.07 | ljp | I wonder where thats being emailed too |
| 02:52.07 | chouimat | kergoth: go to sleep |
| 02:52.18 | kergoth | heheh |
| 02:52.54 | kergoth | hm, i gave the hair stylist a 50% tip |
| 02:52.56 | kergoth | damn |
| 02:52.56 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:53.54 | ljp | too bad she made you look like Curly |
| 02:53.58 | treke|home | "hair stylist" |
| 02:54.22 | kergoth | she's cute, but taken |
| 02:54.24 | kergoth | ~lart ljp |
| 02:54.26 | kergoth | ~lart treke|home |
| 02:54.33 | treke|home | hehe |
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| 02:54.55 | ljp | is her name Mike? |
| 02:55.06 | treke|home | of course not. its Joe |
| 02:55.06 | kergoth | ibot: pester ljp |
| 02:55.08 | | ljp: PESTER PESTER PESTER! |
| 02:55.16 | kergoth | Andrea, ya bastards |
| 02:55.19 | kergoth | :D |
| 02:55.27 | kergoth | okay i need a long island, brb |
| 02:55.39 | chouimat | kergoth: here when you order a beer, it's 1$ tip when she's cute ... so last time it cost me 20$ (for 7 beers) so I give her 7$ for tip |
| 02:56.20 | treke|home | driving 30 miles is just too far :) |
| 02:57.25 | kenb | ibot webpal |
| 02:57.26 | | [webpal] a set top box appliance that can run Linux. see http://webpal.bigbrd.com/, or http://www.softwareandstuff.com/h_misc_webpal.html, or only $13 + shipping!, or schematics are available from: http://www.geocities.com/webpalstuff/ |
| 02:57.50 | chouimat | kenb: adding RAM? |
| 02:57.56 | treke|home | term often used for a hair stylist, but technically I believe it is used with regards to someone who does shaves as well |
| 02:58.11 | chouimat | treke|home: I'm bald :) |
| 02:58.23 | treke|home | hehe |
| 02:58.38 | chouimat | treke|home: well actualy I shave my head |
| 02:59.09 | treke|home | although most of my barbers have tended to be very old men I wouldnt want taking a razor anywhere near my neck :) |
| 02:59.42 | ljp | only thing I shave is my back |
| 02:59.50 | ljp | NOT |
| 03:00.19 | kergoth | if i start losing my hair i'll shave my head |
| 03:00.22 | kergoth | until then, no thanks |
| 03:00.23 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:00.56 | treke|home | unfortunatly I look like a killer bald |
| 03:01.03 | kergoth | hah |
| 03:02.05 | chouimat | treke|home: http://ulyx.homeunix.org:12000/picture.jpg |
| 03:03.09 | kenb | chouimat: Nope, haven't even unboxed it yet |
| 03:03.41 | kergoth | kenb: got the serial adapters to put linux on em yet? :) |
| 03:03.42 | cbok | good god trek |
| 03:03.50 | cbok | you look like a mass murderer |
| 03:03.57 | kenb | kergoth: maybe by this weekend |
| 03:04.05 | kenb | my digium card arrived yesterday |
| 03:04.06 | cbok | almost jeffry dahlmer esque |
| 03:04.08 | chouimat | cbok: look at ? |
| 03:04.15 | kenb | which is a bit higher priority for me |
| 03:04.27 | kergoth | kenb: digium? |
| 03:04.38 | kenb | kergoth: yea, PTSN to VoIP/SIP briding card. |
| 03:04.40 | cbok | choimat - the url you pasted |
| 03:04.49 | kenb | basically, with the correct software, a full-on PBX |
| 03:04.56 | kergoth | kenb: heh, cool |
| 03:05.15 | kergoth | cbok: thats probably chouimat's picture, not treke's |
| 03:05.17 | kergoth | hey Piete |
| 03:05.26 | Piete | :) |
| 03:05.27 | kergoth | kenb: very cool actually. how much do those run? |
| 03:05.28 | ljp | hi |
| 03:05.57 | kenb | kergoth: DevKitLite is $150 US |
| 03:06.04 | kergoth | hm, not bad |
| 03:06.10 | cbok | kg - oooh. |
| 03:06.11 | kenb | you get the PCI card, plus a USB -> RJ11 phone adapter |
| 03:06.19 | cbok | kg - then choimat is a big serial killer esque |
| 03:06.42 | kenb | kergoth: using the software, you can use a normal phone connected to your laptop to make VoIP calls |
| 03:07.03 | kergoth | kenb: thats nice.. instead of getting a VoIP usb phone or something.. that you can use a normal phone |
| 03:07.07 | kergoth | spiffy |
| 03:07.23 | kenb | and full programable pci card |
| 03:07.24 | chouimat | cbok: :) |
| 03:07.35 | kenb | make your own IVR, VMBox, etc... |
| 03:07.40 | Piete | you guys know what really sucks? I was emerging kde 3.1 last night, hoping it will be finished by now. But I go to see if its done, and guess what? My local gentoo mirror screwed up, and kept spitting out access-denied errors, so now I still have a huge chunk of kde left over :/ |
| 03:07.42 | kenb | or have it do VoIP ringdown to find you |
| 03:08.14 | chouimat | Piete: ouch |
| 03:08.20 | kergoth | kenb: hm, i have no idea what any of that means. got a url where i can read on this stuff? ;) |
| 03:08.31 | kenb | kergoth: www.asterisk.org is the GPL'd software |
| 03:08.44 | kenb | www.digium.com is the hardware company... closely tied to the OS software |
| 03:09.07 | kenb | and #asterisk on this network is helpful. The lead developer + other cluefull folks hang out there |
| 03:09.18 | kergoth | cool, thanks |
| 03:10.30 | MSpin | asteriskpbx.org |
| 03:10.43 | MSpin | it rocks:) |
| 03:10.43 | ciaolinux | kergoth: are you still working on 2.4.19? |
| 03:11.01 | kenb | MSpin: you use it? |
| 03:11.03 | kergoth | ciaolinux: its on hold pending the OZ3.1 release |
| 03:11.30 | MSpin | kenb: sorta:) I've been following it pretty close for the past year, and helped implement it at work |
| 03:11.32 | ciaolinux | kergoth: when would that happen? |
| 03:11.42 | ciaolinux | kergoth: i mean the release |
| 03:11.45 | MSpin | we're usign cisco 7960 VoIP phones internally |
| 03:11.55 | kergoth | ciaolinux: rc3 within a week or two, final depending on the outstanding bugs in the rc3 release |
| 03:12.04 | kenb | MSpin: nice... |
| 03:12.23 | kenb | MSpin: any idea the pricetag on those phones? |
| 03:13.51 | MSpin | we jsut got 'em on eBay, $100ish I think |
| 03:14.00 | MSpin | TKC has a VoIP phone for the Z:) |
| 03:14.14 | kergoth | i want a opie VoIP app, thatd be smooth |
| 03:14.23 | kenb | kergoth: soon |
| 03:14.27 | kenb | linphone supposedly. |
| 03:14.27 | chouimat | kergoth: write one? |
| 03:14.30 | kergoth | :) |
| 03:14.34 | kenb | the guy wants to do an Opie version |
| 03:14.43 | kergoth | kenb: nice |
| 03:15.10 | drw | kenb: that's cool, just need a plugin headset... |
| 03:15.20 | MSpin | yeah |
| 03:15.36 | kenb | I think(kergoth can confirm) I put libosip into buildroot |
| 03:15.39 | kergoth | naw, get a BT headset and BT card :) |
| 03:15.43 | kergoth | yep, its in |
| 03:15.46 | kenb | but linphone isn't |
| 03:15.53 | kenb | since it wants gthreads |
| 03:16.04 | kenb | which don't appear to be in buildroot yet. |
| 03:17.14 | kergoth | kenb: gthreads? |
| 03:17.29 | kenb | kergoth: yea. new to me too. |
| 03:17.45 | kergoth | heh, i even googled on it and didnt find anything |
| 03:17.50 | kergoth | except for gthread within glib |
| 03:18.03 | kenb | yes |
| 03:18.30 | kergoth | is that what it uses? or is gthreads something independent? |
| 03:18.40 | kenb | In file included from ortp.h:27, |
| 03:18.41 | kenb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:18.41 | kenb | scheduler.h:44: parse error before `GThread' |
| 03:18.41 | kenb | scheduler.h:44: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union |
| 03:18.41 | kenb | scheduler.h:49: parse error before `}' |
| 03:19.01 | kenb | that's my current stumbling block |
| 03:20.13 | chouimat | anyone planning to add the Agenda VR3 in openembedded? |
| 03:20.42 | kergoth | chouimat: scanline had someone in here the other day who was interested, iirc |
| 03:21.27 | kenb | kergoth: http://www.digium.com/astpres/img37.html |
| 03:21.28 | chouimat | kergoth: www.softfield.com |
| 03:21.43 | Piete | http://www.ubergeek.tv/switchlinux/ |
| 03:22.10 | chouimat | ibot change 143 usd to cad |
| 03:23.00 | kergoth | kenb: what libs does linphone link against? |
| 03:23.21 | kenb | kergoth: arm-linux-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"oRTP\" -I. -I. -I.. -I/z/bk/buildroot-oz/output/staging/include -march=armv4 -mtune=strongarm1100 -mapcs-32 -fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -O2 -fpermissive -c rtpparse.c -Wp,-MD,.deps/rtpparse.TPlo -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/rtpparse.lo |
| 03:23.40 | kenb | that's the compile line that fails |
| 03:23.40 | kergoth | na, thats the compile line |
| 03:23.43 | kergoth | yea |
| 03:23.47 | kergoth | whats the link line later on? |
| 03:23.49 | kergoth | LDFLAGS |
| 03:23.53 | kergoth | hah, i like the slides |
| 03:24.20 | kenb | it bombs and never linkes. |
| 03:24.26 | kergoth | "Teleconferencing with your friends allows you to be more lazy/unsocial than you already are" |
| 03:24.29 | kergoth | lol |
| 03:24.31 | kergoth | kenb: yea, but check the makefile |
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| 03:24.46 | kergoth | kenb: tell me what its linking against, that'll tell us what corresponding headers we need |
| 03:25.13 | kergoth | ahah |
| 03:25.13 | kenb | GLIB_CFLAGS = -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include |
| 03:25.14 | kenb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.14 | kenb | GLIB_GENMARSHAL = glib-genmarshal |
| 03:25.14 | kenb | GLIB_LIBS = -lgthread-2.0 -lpthread -lglib-2.0 |
| 03:25.14 | kenb | GLIB_MKENUMS = glib-mkenums |
| 03:25.14 | kenb | GOBJECT_QUERY = gobject-query |
| 03:25.17 | kergoth | i love number 2 on that list |
| 03:25.19 | kergoth | thats beautiful |
| 03:25.48 | kenb | looks like it's retarded and uses hardcoded includes. grr. |
| 03:26.26 | kergoth | yeah, we can override that easy enough |
| 03:26.31 | kergoth | buildroot will pass in CFLAGS externally anyway |
| 03:27.15 | kergoth | alright, i'm adding glib 2.2.0 into buildroot |
| 03:27.19 | kergoth | we'll need it to add gtk2 anyway |
| 03:27.26 | kergoth | brb |
| 03:36.31 | ljp | TRAITOR |
| 03:36.44 | kergoth | ? |
| 03:36.47 | kergoth | oh |
| 03:36.48 | kergoth | lol |
| 03:36.52 | ljp | gtk? |
| 03:37.06 | kergoth | yep, it'll go in the buildsystem |
| 03:37.09 | kergoth | X already is |
| 03:37.26 | ljp | what uses it? |
| 03:37.30 | kergoth | ? |
| 03:37.34 | kergoth | uses what? gtk? |
| 03:37.40 | ljp | ya |
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| 03:39.01 | ljp | gimp? |
| 03:39.05 | ljp | :) |
| 03:39.12 | chouimat | kergoth: why gtk? why not FLTK and FLEK |
| 03:39.26 | kergoth | go ahead and add those too |
| 03:39.43 | kergoth | open embedded should have a comprehensive repository of package information |
| 03:39.53 | ljp | wxembedded? |
| 03:40.08 | chouimat | ljp: that tooo |
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| 04:00.12 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
| 04:09.42 | james_lan-deskto | ibotL |
| 04:09.55 | james_lan-deskto | ibot wxembedded |
| 04:09.56 | | james_lan-deskto: are you smoking crack? |
| 04:10.41 | james_lan-deskto | ^^^^^ EVERY TIME ibot can't find something it asks me that, it's driving me crazy sometimes. |
| 04:10.44 | james_lan-deskto | ibot NO! |
| 04:10.45 | | well, no! is this a bad thing? |
| 04:12.45 | chouimat|Zzzz | ibot webpal |
| 04:12.45 | | i guess webpal is a set top box appliance that can run Linux. see http://webpal.bigbrd.com/, or http://www.softwareandstuff.com/h_misc_webpal.html, or only $13 + shipping!, or schematics are available from: http://www.geocities.com/webpalstuff/ |
| 04:20.39 | ljp | ibot juju |
| 04:20.40 | | ljp: i haven't a clue |
| 04:20.55 | ljp | ibot wxembedded |
| 04:20.56 | | ljp: I give up, what is it? |
| 04:22.21 | ljp | ibot wxembedded is wxWindows for embedded applications, and available from http://www.wxwindows.org/embedded.htm |
| 04:22.22 | | okay, ljp |
| 04:22.33 | ljp | ibot die |
| 04:22.34 | | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
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| 04:43.27 | chouimat|Zzzz | ljp: add based ob wx/Universal |
| 04:56.42 | chouimat|Zzzz | http://www.runix.ru/ |
| 04:56.46 | kergoth | hm |
| 04:57.22 | chouimat|Zzzz | kergoth: ? |
| 04:58.00 | kergoth | bored. |
| 04:58.23 | james_lan-deskto | la la la la |
| 04:58.24 | chouimat|Zzzz | kergoth: nothing yet but they will release an alternate linux kit for the PS2 and one for the PS1 |
| 04:58.30 | kergoth | cool |
| 04:59.26 | chouimat|Zzzz | kergoth: a PS1 + a addon board that made a nice little computer :) |
| 04:59.38 | kergoth | yea |
| 05:01.55 | chouimat|Zzzz | kergoth: ARM ARM is easy to read? |
| 05:02.12 | kergoth | yes |
| 05:02.24 | kergoth | its a reference for the most part. skim half of it and come back to it later |
| 05:02.28 | kergoth | the textual portions are valuable |
| 05:02.42 | kergoth | but it has items like the isntruction set reference that you dont really need to sit and read in one sitting :) |
| 05:02.48 | chouimat|Zzzz | kergoth: ok now I have 125 books to read :) |
| 05:02.56 | kergoth | hah |
| 05:03.14 | chouimat|Zzzz | kergoth: more if you count the ebooks |
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| 06:42.47 | Xentac | I updated to OZ3.1rc2 (doing an ipkg update and ipkg upgrade, as many times as necessary) and now opie won't start... at first I thought it was opie-login, so I removed that... the qpe binary runs but the only message is about missing font directories |
| 06:42.52 | Xentac | ideas? |
| 06:44.11 | Xentac | I looked for messages in dmesg and after running syslogd... nothing there |
| 06:46.30 | Xentac | hmmm... copied the files fonts from my backup and it works now |
| 06:48.50 | Xentac | ah, I think I found the problem... |
| 06:48.51 | Xentac | hmmm.. |
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| 09:01.41 | Horwitz | hi |
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| 11:40.59 | supermatt | hello santa |
| 11:42.21 | supermatt | mickeyl: know the best way to output a QString's value using qWarning()? do I really have to write (const char *)string.local8Bit()? |
| 11:42.27 | supermatt | seems ugly |
| 11:43.02 | tronical | supermatt: qWarning( "foo: %s", thatQString.ascii() ); |
| 11:43.40 | supermatt | tronical: aah - YAY! |
| 11:43.42 | supermatt | thanks |
| 11:45.00 | supermatt | but from http://doc.trolltech.com/2.3/qstring.html: |
| 11:45.05 | supermatt | const char* ascii () const (obsolete) |
| 11:45.10 | supermatt | looks to have been deprecated |
| 11:45.29 | tronical | don't worry, it won't disappear that soon ;-) |
| 11:45.45 | tronical | the problem with ascii() is that when calling it you loose information |
| 11:45.56 | supermatt | yeah |
| 11:45.56 | tronical | (when the text stored in your string is non-ascii) |
| 11:46.20 | supermatt | shame there's not some kind of ios mechanism |
| 11:46.44 | tronical | you'd prefer to write someDebugStream << foo << endl; ? |
| 11:46.50 | supermatt | yeah |
| 11:46.58 | tronical | then you shold start coding for KDE, which has it :) |
| 11:47.06 | tronical | (yeah, I know, not an option here :) |
| 11:47.12 | supermatt | :) |
| 11:47.30 | supermatt | ok - ascii() it is |
| 11:48.43 | supermatt | I've only been coding in Qt for a few months, but ultimately I'd like to get involved in opie and KDE maybe |
| 11:52.24 | mickeyl | supermatt: I prefer the simple qWarning( "%s" (const char*) s ); |
| 11:53.34 | mickeyl | QString overloads (const char*), so this is a perfectly legal construct and not a C-style cast as it may look like |
| 11:53.34 | supermatt | mickeyl: cool, I didnt think that worked |
| 11:56.18 | supermatt | so no const_cast<char *>() or whatever |
| 11:56.33 | supermatt | excellent - thanks mickeyl, tronical |
| 11:57.08 | mickeyl | next generation opielibs will feature a debug stream, so that you can do odebug << string; |
| 11:57.22 | mickeyl | this debug stream can then be watched remotely e.g. |
| 11:57.30 | supermatt | that will be cool |
| 11:57.35 | mickeyl | will ease your debugging a lot |
| 11:57.38 | supermatt | aye |
| 12:34.14 | ||ugh | Ghods I can't take it any more. Can SOMEOME close to the driver turn off the 'blinky' mode of the HostAP driver so that the LED on my Z's netgear stops! :r) |
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| 14:55.42 | icefox | hey |
| 15:02.06 | Piete | heya icefox |
| 15:02.34 | icefox | Hey can you look at something for me? |
| 15:03.01 | Piete | sure |
| 15:03.11 | icefox | http://kaylee.meyerhome.net:81/~ben/ben/ |
| 15:03.13 | icefox | A possible new design for my website |
| 15:03.16 | icefox | not fully finished |
| 15:03.24 | icefox | mainly getting feedback at this time |
| 15:03.48 | Piete | ok, checking |
| 15:04.20 | Piete | icefox: I think it renders wrong in phoenix |
| 15:04.33 | icefox | There might be a few wrong tags |
| 15:04.40 | icefox | havn't checked it in every browser yet |
| 15:04.46 | icefox | will do though |
| 15:05.04 | icefox | all of the icons should form a horizontal line on the top |
| 15:05.39 | Piete | hmm, look here |
| 15:05.53 | Piete | piete.mirrorz.com/screenies/1.jpg to 4.jpg |
| 15:06.44 | scanline | renders differently in galeon |
| 15:06.50 | icefox | different? |
| 15:06.56 | icefox | don't they use the same render engine? |
| 15:07.00 | Piete | heya scanline :) |
| 15:07.09 | scanline | icons horizontally across the top, then several thin columns below that, each with three borders on the top side |
| 15:07.11 | scanline | hi Piete |
| 15:07.36 | icefox | hmm, ok I will try it in mozilla and fix it up |
| 15:07.44 | icefox | should work fine in konq |
| 15:07.48 | icefox | at leaset 3.04 |
| 15:08.10 | Piete | heh, kde 3.1 has been emerging for over 1 day now |
| 15:08.35 | Piete | I keep getting corrupted downloads, so I have to redownload every now and then.. and with ibiblio's legendary |
| 15:08.39 | Piete | 'speed' |
| 15:08.42 | Piete | its going slow |
| 15:08.44 | icefox | bla I see what you mean about the several colums |
| 15:09.30 | Piete | heh, my first site I have made in ages : piete.mirrorz.com |
| 15:09.41 | Piete | but it worked out ok, I guess :) |
| 15:09.48 | icefox | learning css |
| 15:10.02 | icefox | very cool, no more tables |
| 15:10.02 | icefox | hehe |
| 15:10.14 | icefox | Last time I looked a html book was 97. A lot has happened sense then |
| 15:10.56 | Piete | heh, I have never looked at a html book in my life.. I just look at other people's sites for examples on how to do stuff |
| 15:11.06 | Piete | and then I improvise |
| 15:11.55 | Piete | bluefish is a really nice html-editor.. it just seems to screw up the spacing in the code a bit though |
| 15:12.49 | icefox | haha, the 1 icon the i.e. renders correctly mozzila doesn't |
| 15:13.06 | icefox | ah, I hand make everything now |
| 15:13.11 | icefox | and for the most part have |
| 15:13.27 | icefox | had a sting with Frontpage back in 96 before it was called frontpage |
| 15:13.33 | icefox | ting/stint |
| 15:14.31 | Piete | icefox: *very* nice : http://kaylee.meyerhome.net:81/~ben/ben/desktop/works/pics/linuxpoweredBigCopy.jpg |
| 15:14.46 | Twiun | Howdy all'yall |
| 15:14.50 | Piete | yea |
| 15:15.24 | Piete | icefox: you should put that one up on deviantart.com |
| 15:15.59 | Piete | icefox: I like your dragons :) |
| 15:16.20 | Piete | I want a swamp-dragon as a pet :) |
| 15:17.01 | icefox | hehe |
| 15:17.05 | Twiun | are we changing mascotts for OE? |
| 15:17.13 | Twiun | or sticking with Pingi? |
| 15:17.14 | icefox | Twiun: how did it go? |
| 15:17.18 | Piete | don't think so... |
| 15:17.20 | icefox | Pingi is quite cool |
| 15:17.27 | Piete | Pingi is cute |
| 15:17.47 | Twiun | icefox: real smooth - the interviewer even made a slip and said "when we employ you..." instead of "if" :) |
| 15:18.00 | Twiun | I still wanna have Pingi holding a cup of Java! |
| 15:18.05 | icefox | nice |
| 15:18.15 | Piete | Twiun: nice :) |
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| 15:32.12 | ljp_work | kergoth`zzz: ping |
| 15:32.41 | ljp_work | ibot: timriker |
| 15:32.42 | | bzflag is, like, mailto:Tim@Rikers.org or the former CTO of Embedix, Inc. (Lineo) and maintainer of the 3D internet multiplayer multiplatform (linux, irix, win32, etc) opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game of the same name that you must try at http://BZFlag.org/ or a continual development project with periodic gaming |
| 15:48.58 | Piete | icefox: mind giving me your gpg key's fingerprint? |
| 15:50.25 | ljp_work | isnt that illegal? |
| 15:50.31 | Piete | no |
| 15:50.31 | ljp_work | :D |
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| 15:50.51 | Piete | oh, wait, your americans... |
| 15:50.51 | Piete | :P |
| 15:51.21 | Piete | ljp_work: thats just to make sure the key that I got, is authentic |
| 15:51.43 | Piete | and yes, I know,, s/your/you're |
| 15:59.16 | icefox | Piete: sorry, back |
| 15:59.26 | icefox | how do I get my fingerprint? |
| 16:05.55 | Piete | icefox: gpg --edit-key your-email-addy |
| 16:05.55 | Piete | and then type in 'fpr' |
| 16:05.55 | icefox | pub 1024D/FC980E3B 2002-12-09 Benjamin Meyer <ben@meyerhome.net> |
| 16:05.56 | icefox | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:05.56 | Piete | thanks |
| 16:05.56 | Piete | it matches :) |
| 16:05.56 | Piete | you are my first key on my keyring :) |
| 16:05.56 | icefox | :) |
| 16:05.56 | ljp_work | aaaawww.. ain't that just special |
| 16:05.56 | Piete | lol! |
| 16:05.56 | icefox | The only one on mine is my work pgp key |
| 16:05.56 | Piete | ljp_work: nya, I bet you don't even *have* one :P |
| 16:05.56 | ljp_work | would that be a good pickup line? "hey baby, how would you like to be first on my gpg keyring" |
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| 16:05.57 | Piete | haha |
| 16:05.57 | Piete | heya kergoth :) |
| 16:05.57 | kergoth | hey |
| 16:05.57 | ljp_work | hi kergoth |
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| 16:08.10 | chouimat | morning |
| 16:08.34 | mrz80 | if you say so (* yawn stretch *) |
| 16:09.11 | Piete | morning chouimat |
| 16:09.24 | chouimat | hi Piete |
| 16:09.25 | Piete | hey! its morning here too, but I still have to go to bed ;) |
| 16:09.48 | Piete | heh, this box has been compiling kde for ages now |
| 16:10.19 | mrz80 | define "this box" and define "ages" :-) |
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| 16:10.33 | icefox | 486, eon |
| 16:10.42 | Twiun | kergoth: hiya |
| 16:16.04 | kergoth | ljp_work: http://www.altera.com/literature/lit-exc.html <-under third party manuals, its the ARM ARM PDF |
| 16:16.37 | ljp_work | thanks! |
| 16:16.39 | kergoth | okay i need orange juice or coffee or _something_ |
| 16:16.40 | kergoth | brb |
| 16:19.16 | chouimat | kergoth: good idea |
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| 16:24.43 | Piete | mmmmm,, I want some too |
| 16:31.25 | chouimat | http://slashdot.org/articles/03/01/29/1447203.shtml?tid=134 |
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| 16:31.26 | AndyQ | lo |
| 16:31.27 | chouimat | hi AndyQ |
| 16:31.27 | ciaolinux | hi AndyQ |
| 16:31.27 | ciaolinux | AndyQ: still no screens on killefiz |
| 16:31.27 | AndyQ | ciaolinux: yup - no idea why - submitted them 3 times now |
| 16:31.28 | AndyQ | ping killefiz |
| 16:31.28 | ciaolinux | AndyQ: why not you put them on your homepage |
| 16:31.28 | AndyQ | ciaolinux: I could do - just not got round to doing it |
| 16:31.28 | AndyQ | I will but not sure when |
| 16:32.23 | AndyQ | I've got lots of things to do the website - not enough time :) |
| 16:32.23 | Piete | hey AndyQ!!! |
| 16:32.23 | AndyQ | hey Piete hows things? |
| 16:32.27 | Piete | AndyQ: fine, thanks :) |
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| 16:34.19 | noda | Moo! |
| 16:34.19 | AndyQ | baaaaaaa! |
| 16:34.19 | Piete | Woof |
| 16:34.19 | Piete | er |
| 16:34.19 | chouimat | *BURP* *FART* *SNEEZE* |
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| 16:36.04 | noda | Heehee, the newest cdrecord has a workaround for exactly the problem I'm experiencing with it - woo! :) |
| 16:36.04 | chouimat | kergoth: I scanned ulyx log and that nick ||ugh cause problem |
| 16:40.32 | ljp_work | chouimat: geez, I hope that wasn't all at the very same time |
| 16:40.32 | chouimat | ljp_work: hehe :) |
| 16:43.09 | chouimat | ulyx: pc? |
| 16:43.09 | ulyx | beats me |
| 16:43.09 | chouimat | ulyx: pc? |
| 16:43.09 | ulyx | dunno |
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| 16:45.32 | ljp_work | ibot: lart ulyx |
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| 16:46.55 | ljp_work | 24 hours? |
| 16:48.40 | Twiun | 48? |
| 16:49.18 | ljp_work | now they just need to get kdevelop 3 out the door |
| 16:50.25 | treke | kergoth: I've got a copy of apmd_3.1.0.orig.tar.gz if you need it |
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| 17:00.22 | chouimat | http://www.qnx.com/news/pr/jan28_02_eclipse.html |
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| 17:08.04 | kergoth | damn meetings |
| 17:09.04 | chouimat | kergoth: boring? or useless? |
| 17:10.27 | kergoth | chouimat: both :) |
| 17:10.52 | kergoth | hm, you know a web based system for managing bookmarks? |
| 17:11.02 | kergoth | I'm sick of rebookmarking shit at home, then at work |
| 17:11.11 | kergoth | i mean, something not static, i hate editing html :) |
| 17:11.51 | mrz80 | I keep a non-anonymous ftp server running on my work pc |
| 17:11.57 | chouimat | kergoth: freshmeat? sf.net? |
| 17:12.06 | mrz80 | On my home pc I have a bookmark to my work pc's bookmarks file |
| 17:12.37 | chouimat | kergoth: my work systems and home systems are the sames so ... |
| 17:12.43 | kergoth | chouimat: yeah yeah, bastard |
| 17:12.44 | kergoth | :) |
| 17:14.06 | chouimat | kergoth: wow! PLQ 36%,PQ 32%,ADQ 31% <--- that lead to a "gov minoritaire" |
| 17:19.28 | chouimat | kergoth: any news about the OE logo |
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| 17:21.51 | ljp_work | hmm |
| 17:22.54 | ljp_work | hmmm hmmmmmm |
| 17:23.20 | chouimat | ljp_work: stop eating boobs on IRC |
| 17:23.40 | ljp_work | ohh.. there we go... Conmpression yes |
| 17:24.17 | ljp_work | eatting boobs? chocolate boobs? |
| 17:26.17 | ljp_work | that was it. |
| 17:26.33 | ljp_work | helps to have sshd also use Compression |
| 17:27.12 | kergoth | hey MSpin |
| 17:27.24 | MSpin | heya kergoth |
| 17:28.36 | ljp_work | so.. whats on the agenda for today? |
| 17:28.51 | MSpin | <--- Verilog |
| 17:29.16 | Twiun | <--- chucking Apache+Tomcat and going Tomcat+Templates |
| 17:29.43 | Twiun | all I need now is a way to emulate OPTION INDEXES in tomcat... |
| 17:29.49 | chouimat | <----- Firewall debuging + new build system |
| 17:30.05 | Twiun | then I can swap the entire site over and start doing some templating+ getting my faq into a db |
| 17:30.07 | kergoth | <--- working on 1) glib 2.2 croscompile, 2) c700 bits, 3) my job |
| 17:30.17 | kergoth | checking whether to use the PID niceness surrogate for thread priorities... configure: error: cannot run test program while cross compiling |
| 17:30.20 | kergoth | hmm |
| 17:30.28 | kergoth | wonder what variable that is in the config.cache4 |
| 17:30.37 | kergoth | ah |
| 17:30.38 | kergoth | glib_cv_use_pid_surrogate=${glib_cv_use_pid_surrogate=yes |
| 17:30.40 | kergoth | fun |
| 17:30.51 | kergoth | dontcha just love autoconf? bleh |
| 17:32.01 | kergoth | configure: error: Could not find a glib-genmarshal in your PATH |
| 17:32.03 | kergoth | wtf does that mean? |
| 17:32.39 | ljp_work | it means your not supopsed to be adding any g* libs to oe :) |
| 17:33.01 | chouimat | hmmmmm a woman on tv just said that 3 of his 4 boyfriends she had in her life are now gay |
| 17:33.42 | ljp_work | hehehe |
| 17:34.03 | Twiun | says something about: a) the type of men she likes, or, b) what she does to any man |
| 17:34.20 | MSpin | chouimat: that means she's a fag hag:) |
| 17:36.04 | chouimat | and she not so cute |
| 17:36.23 | Twiun | looks like a cat hit her - whilst being ravaged by a pack of hounds? |
| 17:37.05 | MSpin | lol |
| 17:37.09 | chouimat | Twiun:and she quite dumb too |
| 17:37.19 | treke | chouimat: we already guessed that |
| 17:37.30 | chouimat | brb must reboot |
| 17:37.32 | Twiun | chouimat: were you imitating her just then? |
| 17:37.42 | chouimat | ulyx: lart Twiun |
| 17:37.44 | treke | bright people generally dont go on tv and say that three of four boyfriends are gay |
| 17:38.00 | Twiun | that's right... bright people at least sell their stories to the newspapers |
| 17:38.02 | Twiun | erm... |
| 17:38.06 | chouimat | hold on guys I reboot |
| 17:38.07 | Twiun | ...or don't talk about it |
| 17:38.13 | Twiun | hurry! |
| 17:38.20 | Twiun | or read the logs :) |
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| 17:43.11 | treke | kergoth: -DQT_QWS_EBX is embedix, right? |
| 17:43.12 | ljp_work | hmm odd. I just discovered if I type la I get a ls output |
| 17:43.21 | ljp_work | yes |
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| 17:48.12 | treke | ljp_work: quite a few distros set that alias up |
| 17:48.29 | kergoth | brb |
| 17:48.45 | treke | usually goes to ls -a |
| 17:49.00 | ljp_work | ya, odd one, though |
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| 17:55.56 | treke | oops. init depends on e2fsprogs :) |
| 18:10.38 | kergoth | treke: build an image without init? ;) |
| 18:10.57 | icefox | kergoth: if you use netscape there was an apache module to have 1 bookmark file on the server |
| 18:11.02 | icefox | or just nfs mount the file |
| 18:11.08 | treke | yup. didnt think I needed e2fsprogs :) |
| 18:11.50 | kergoth | icefox: hmm |
| 18:15.43 | mark | treke: whats the date format for you americans? |
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| 18:16.05 | chouimat | ulyx: lart mark |
| 18:16.06 | treke | m/d/y is the standard format |
| 18:16.16 | treke | I prefer y-m-d though |
| 18:16.17 | treke | :) |
| 18:16.56 | kergoth | i prefer y-m-d also |
| 18:17.01 | kergoth | because it works as a version string |
| 18:17.03 | mark | you crazy people |
| 18:17.06 | mark | cheers treke |
| 18:17.13 | kergoth | 20020102 < 20020120 |
| 18:17.15 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:26.12 | nobse | hmm... the available space in /dev/mtdblock4 is shrinking, without doing anything with my Z, its just sitting in the cradle |
| 18:26.31 | nobse | why? |
| 18:26.35 | pb_ | let us know what happens when it reaches zero. |
| 18:26.46 | nobse | heh... |
| 18:27.01 | treke | http://treke.net/images/oz-ipaq.png |
| 18:27.18 | treke | wheee |
| 18:28.23 | chouimat|food | ulyx: praise treke |
| 18:29.36 | kergoth | ulyx: lart glib 2.2.0's buildsystem |
| 18:29.41 | kergoth | piece of shit |
| 18:29.45 | kergoth | uses auto* |
| 18:30.01 | kergoth | and, it doesnt generate the files it needs built for build machine _at all_ when crosscompiling |
| 18:30.06 | kergoth | it expects you already have them in your fucking path |
| 18:30.17 | kergoth | instead of sanely having a CC var for build, vs a CC var for host |
| 18:30.20 | kergoth | fucking idiots |
| 18:30.33 | kergoth | why, oh why, is there not a buildsystem that can easily hadnle crosscompilation? |
| 18:30.38 | kergoth | it really isnt _that_ complicated. |
| 18:31.55 | chouimat|food | kergoth: because that buildsystem was creater by gnomers |
| 18:34.52 | treke | trolltech needs to take some of that money they are making off qtopia and put it into a faster ftp server |
| 18:34.58 | kergoth | no shit |
| 18:37.58 | mickeyl | kergoth: hi ho. what target is responsible for the actual root install in 'make image' mode? |
| 18:39.13 | kergoth | 'install' |
| 18:39.13 | kergoth | its a target in each package makefile |
| 18:39.13 | chouimat|food | takepatch: patch left in PENDING/2003-01-29.02 huh??? |
| 18:39.13 | kergoth | see Rules.make for details |
| 18:39.13 | kergoth | chouimat|food: bk resolve |
| 18:39.13 | kergoth | chouimat|food: or you need to bk ci something |
| 18:39.13 | kergoth | chouimat|food: probably an edited file un ci'd |
| 18:39.13 | chouimat|food | bk resolve |
| 18:39.13 | chouimat|food | Using :0 as graphical display |
| 18:39.13 | chouimat|food | resolve: can't find RESYNC dir, nothing to resolve? |
| 18:39.13 | mickeyl | kergoth: ah ok, so if I don't use this target, the package will be ignored on make image |
| 18:39.13 | kergoth | you must ci all files prior to pull |
| 18:39.13 | kergoth | mickeyl: read Rules.make |
| 18:40.09 | chouimat|food | kergoth: bk clone url please |
| 18:40.13 | kergoth | chouimat|food: http://openzaurus@openzaurus.bkbits.net/buildroot |
| 18:40.42 | mickeyl | ok. by the way, busybox asks for user options during the build. |
| 18:40.54 | kergoth | then they added new options |
| 18:41.08 | kergoth | we'll just need to update the defconfig |
| 18:41.16 | Neo|Work | morning |
| 18:41.27 | chouimat|food | hi Neo|Work |
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| 18:45.26 | chouimat|food | ibot: openzaurus bk |
| 18:45.27 | | chouimat|food: I give up, what is it? |
| 18:45.35 | chouimat|food | kergoth: bk co ? |
| 18:45.42 | kergoth | ? |
| 18:45.44 | kergoth | um |
| 18:45.46 | kergoth | i just gave it to you. |
| 18:46.01 | kergoth | http://openzaurus@openzaurus.bkbits.net/buildroot if you have write access, http://openzaurus.bkbits.net/buildroot if you dont |
| 18:46.16 | chouimat|food | kergoth: after that |
| 18:46.24 | kergoth | huh? |
| 18:46.38 | kergoth | the second commandline argument is whatever you want to call your local dir |
| 18:46.41 | kergoth | blah |
| 18:46.42 | kergoth | buildroot |
| 18:46.43 | kergoth | buildroot-oz |
| 18:46.44 | kergoth | whatever you want |
| 18:46.55 | chouimat|food | no to have the files |
| 18:47.02 | kergoth | huh? |
| 18:47.03 | kergoth | oh |
| 18:47.05 | kergoth | bk -r co -q |
| 18:47.12 | icefox | ok, can please try this site and simply tell me if it seems to render correctly? |
| 18:47.13 | icefox | http://kaylee.meyerhome.net:81/~ben/ben/ |
| 18:47.33 | kergoth | ? |
| 18:47.39 | kergoth | its hard to check rendering without a username and password |
| 18:47.42 | kergoth | ;) |
| 18:47.44 | icefox | hit cancle |
| 18:47.48 | kergoth | ah |
| 18:47.52 | chouimat|food | icefox: not with konq |
| 18:48.01 | icefox | what ver? |
| 18:48.10 | kergoth | looks fine in phoenix |
| 18:48.27 | icefox | Thanks |
| 18:48.43 | chouimat|food | 3.1.0 with kdelibs 3.1.90 |
| 18:48.54 | icefox | grrr |
| 18:48.59 | icefox | 3.04 renders it fine |
| 18:49.30 | chouimat|food | icefox: first articles look like 12 lines are printed on one line |
| 18:49.52 | icefox | hit refresh |
| 18:50.21 | chouimat|food | same |
| 18:50.28 | icefox | ok |
| 18:50.31 | icefox | will wait till debian gets 3.1 |
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| 18:52.57 | mickeyl | kergoth: hmm... we should think about mirroring packages soon... it's annoying to catch up with debian every day, because packages are no longer available... e.g. apmd_3.1.0 has been vanished, because apmd_3.2 is out. I'll bump the version up |
| 18:53.32 | kergoth | mickeyl: yeah, good point.. we should have a local cache of packages |
| 18:53.42 | kergoth | mickeyl: on the plus side, this keeps us up to date.. we always have the latest :) |
| 18:54.14 | mickeyl | kergoth: true that, best system however would be a fallback to a known good package which is mirrored somewhere. |
| 18:54.21 | kergoth | agreed |
| 18:54.31 | kergoth | buildroot needs mirror handling |
| 18:54.36 | kergoth | thats been on the todo for some time |
| 18:54.54 | mickeyl | and the more packages we include in buildroot the more urgent this gets |
| 18:55.01 | MSpin | ibilio should be able to mirror |
| 18:55.05 | kergoth | mickeyl: indeed |
| 18:55.26 | MSpin | or maybe, just use them, and don't depend on the debian ftp sites |
| 18:55.34 | kergoth | we need debian's patches |
| 18:55.38 | kergoth | for a lot of our packages |
| 18:55.42 | kergoth | not just sources. |
| 18:56.09 | MSpin | yeah, but basically 'mirror' what we need in a location like ibilio |
| 18:56.19 | MSpin | or however you spell it |
| 18:57.48 | mickeyl | d'oh! apmd_3.2.0-1.diff.gz doesnt't apply to apmd_3_2_0.orig |
| 18:57.58 | mickeyl | 3 out of 5 hunks failed... |
| 18:58.02 | kergoth | hmm |
| 18:58.05 | kergoth | thats odd |
| 18:58.43 | treke | MSpin: debian updates what? once a year :) |
| 18:58.53 | treke | shouldnt be too big a burden |
| 18:58.57 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:59.04 | kergoth | the main usntable package pool updates constantly |
| 18:59.29 | treke | ah, apm is coming from unstable/testing |
| 18:59.32 | kergoth | we get a broken package or something that needs upgrade on a regular basis, generally at least one or two a month |
| 18:59.42 | kergoth | and it's going to get more frequent |
| 18:59.44 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:59.58 | treke | sourceforge :) |
| 19:00.03 | treke | make your own mirror |
| 19:00.13 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:00.19 | pb_ | yeah, there is enough package churn in unstable to keep two or three arm autobuilders occupied pretty much full time. |
| 19:00.20 | kergoth | you have any idea how much space we're going to need :) |
| 19:00.41 | treke | kergoth: Let VA worry about that :) |
| 19:00.46 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:01.18 | mickeyl | kergoth: aah it wasn't the debian diff, it was 'workaround.patch" which no longer applies |
| 19:01.23 | kergoth | ah |
| 19:01.28 | kergoth | what are we working around? :) |
| 19:01.37 | mickeyl | hehe, no idea... never looked into this |
| 19:01.41 | mickeyl | checking... |
| 19:02.09 | mickeyl | + if (signal(SIGUSR1, SIG_IGN) != SIG_IGN) |
| 19:02.09 | mickeyl | + signal(SIGUSR1, sig_usr1); /* ntp */ |
| 19:02.13 | kergoth | ohh |
| 19:02.14 | mickeyl | + /* ntp */ |
| 19:02.14 | mickeyl | + if (sleep_now) { |
| 19:02.14 | mickeyl | + sleep_now = 0; |
| 19:02.14 | mickeyl | + apmd_suspend(APM_USER_SUSPEND, &apminfo); |
| 19:02.14 | mickeyl | + } |
| 19:02.15 | mickeyl | + |
| 19:02.17 | kergoth | _that_ workaround |
| 19:02.18 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:02.21 | mickeyl | is this stuff still needed? |
| 19:02.23 | kergoth | yes |
| 19:02.25 | kergoth | absolutely |
| 19:02.38 | kergoth | if you run apmd normally, a call to a kernel suspend via apm -s will cause your Z to never wake up |
| 19:02.44 | kergoth | so we do something evil and have apmd do the work for us |
| 19:02.49 | kergoth | heheh |
| 19:03.07 | mickeyl | aah yeah. mmh... you are more familiar with that, so i leave this for you :-D |
| 19:03.14 | kergoth | k |
| 19:05.58 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:06.17 | kergoth | whee |
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| 19:10.34 | RealUlli | hi |
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| 19:22.06 | icefox | Completly offtopic but!!! http://www.transfandom.net/armada/images/caps/armadaunicron4.jpg |
| 19:22.10 | icefox | :-D |
| 19:22.41 | icefox | <neo speak>woooh</new speak> |
| 19:27.09 | chouimat|food | ulyx: lart icefox for being a kid |
| 19:27.14 | icefox | hehe |
| 19:28.07 | icefox | hey I am doing compatibility testing on the 5600 all day every day. This was the highlight of my day. |
| 19:28.27 | ljp_work | hmmm |
| 19:29.16 | mark | icefox: want my address? ;) |
| 19:29.32 | icefox | sorry, jason and I have only 1 each |
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| 19:32.53 | Dessimat0r | lo all |
| 19:33.00 | Dessimat0r | now on 1mbit connection ;) |
| 19:33.07 | RealUlli | lo des |
| 19:33.30 | icefox | lucky you |
| 19:33.47 | Dessimat0r | lol |
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| 19:35.22 | RealUlli | hmm.. what's better for wlan: ad-hoc or infrastructure mode? |
| 19:35.36 | kergoth | 'better'? |
| 19:36.42 | RealUlli | kergoth: well... i' just trying to get my wlan to run.. |
| 19:36.51 | RealUlli | ...sucessfully now! :-) |
| 19:37.14 | kergoth | neither is 'better' than the other. they're used in different environments. |
| 19:37.20 | kergoth | its like comparing apples and oranges |
| 19:37.49 | ljp_work | donkeys and horses |
| 19:38.27 | RealUlli | kergoth: i c ... can you point me to some website where the diffrence is explained? |
| 19:38.30 | chouimat|food | lol .. computer sciences students from my old university are on tv for a press conferences to unveil the best networking technology available today, it's fast, secure, and cheap: SNICKER-NET |
| 19:39.22 | kergoth | ;) |
| 19:41.04 | RealUlli | kergoth: okok.. i'm quiet.. ;-) |
| 19:42.51 | RealUlli | hmm.. another question... my AP wants for 128 bit WEP 26 hex digits. how are shared wep keys entered in the network conf? |
| 19:43.23 | kergoth | hex |
| 19:44.18 | RealUlli | kergoth: ok, thanks. :-) |
| 19:44.26 | kergoth | np |
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| 19:46.37 | noda | Moo! |
| 19:47.09 | icefox | MoooOOo |
| 19:47.16 | icefox | RealUlli: in plain text |
| 19:47.16 | ljp_work | bam!.. oh.. sorry I thought you were a deer.. |
| 19:47.28 | kergoth | hey noda |
| 19:47.42 | kergoth | icefox: i think he meant is it supposed to be netered in ascii or hex |
| 19:47.44 | kergoth | icefox: :) |
| 19:47.55 | icefox | RealUlli: try just entering it and if it doesn't work then put s: in front of it |
| 19:48.07 | kergoth | icefox: we should improve that input.. add ascii/hex selection that autoappends s: for ascii |
| 19:48.14 | icefox | yah on my todo |
| 19:48.25 | RealUlli | icefox: seems to work :-) |
| 19:48.32 | icefox | the s:? |
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| 19:51.25 | ljp_work | took realnetworks 7 months to 'helixize' their code to release it |
| 19:52.08 | Neo|Work | they've worked really hard on that |
| 19:52.42 | ljp_work | yep. still parts they need to do, though |
| 19:53.00 | ljp_work | Neo|Work: what dept do you work in? |
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| 19:53.28 | ljp_work | they need to release their fixed point stuff. like the mp3 codecs |
| 19:53.51 | noda | They're not *going* to release codecs, though, are they? |
| 19:54.09 | ljp_work | real's? not for opensource |
| 19:54.39 | ljp_work | but I am going to sign an agreement, and try porting them to arm |
| 19:54.51 | Neo|Work | ljp_work: one that works with backend coding and such for websites |
| 19:55.02 | ljp_work | oh. |
| 19:55.12 | Neo|Work | noda: depends on what codecs you're talking about |
| 19:55.20 | Neo|Work | as ljp_work said, no source for RNWK codecs |
| 19:55.49 | ljp_work | problem we are running into is floats.. |
| 19:57.49 | ljp_work | but the good thing is the other arm platforms will also need the fpixed point code |
| 19:57.54 | Neo|Work | there's been A LOT of work on integerizing codecs |
| 19:58.00 | Neo|Work | and it's not easy work in general |
| 19:58.02 | ljp_work | so I hear |
| 19:58.11 | ljp_work | true that |
| 19:58.34 | Neo|Work | for mpeg however, there already are integerized versions |
| 19:58.53 | Neo|Work | so rather than trying to port the RNWK fp codec, make a plugin for the existing fixed point one |
| 20:01.15 | ljp_work | I think its a matter of a build define, or will be |
| 20:06.54 | treke | this kinda sucks, a whole processor being unused :) |
| 20:08.46 | kergoth | hm |
| 20:09.41 | ljp_work | thats not good! wasted cycles! |
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| 20:11.01 | treke | a little hax0ring of the Makefile ad we seem to be ok |
| 20:11.28 | ljp_work | is that allowed? |
| 20:11.51 | treke | not gonna break anything for you, so why not :p |
| 20:13.26 | ljp_work | suppose some 4 year old kid tries that!? |
| 20:13.44 | ljp_work | :D |
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| 20:20.47 | icefox | Ever sense I got a red stapler everyone wants to see it and take it. I feel like morton trying to keep it to myself |
| 20:21.00 | treke | hahaha |
| 20:21.38 | lsmith | The cradle has ports for AV out ( to display the screen on a TV) and a USB port to connect to a compatible printers, enabling one to print directly from the handheld. Both AV and USB cables are included with the device. |
| 20:21.43 | lsmith | this is on the latest sony pda |
| 20:25.51 | Dessimat0r | wow |
| 20:25.52 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 20:26.19 | Dessimat0r | its a pity that Sony's handhelds are weak as shit, in the performance department |
| 20:26.34 | Dessimat0r | with 8mb of RAM *spit* |
| 20:26.49 | Dessimat0r | I'd like to see DivX on that |
| 20:27.36 | Dessimat0r | I can't believe that they can still get away with selling such underpowered machines |
| 20:27.59 | Dessimat0r | for that price |
| 20:29.46 | lsmith | sony's have 200mhz xscale these days |
| 20:29.47 | icefox | Dessimat0r: I can't believe what they can _do_ with that underpowered machine with a wicked long battery |
| 20:30.10 | icefox | all in a smaller sleaker form facter then the z |
| 20:30.10 | lsmith | the sony is insanely packed |
| 20:30.12 | icefox | sigh |
| 20:30.20 | ||ugh | Why even bother considdering _any_ Sony product? For me it's a simple choice, Freedom or support Sony and manditory drug tests in the work place. Simple choice... |
| 20:30.31 | lsmith | just sucks that they have the memory stick |
| 20:30.54 | lsmith | palm os is alright ... still prefer linux though |
| 20:31.03 | lsmith | especially once opie 1.0 is out |
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| 20:32.46 | chouimat | lsmith: memory stick are fun is digital camera |
| 20:32.59 | icefox | eh, I prefur microdive simply for the speed |
| 20:33.25 | icefox | writing 3MP, 4MP... 12MP images takes some time |
| 20:33.29 | lsmith | memory stick is large, klunky, pricey and have small storage |
| 20:33.39 | lsmith | so summarize: memory stick is a bad idea |
| 20:34.13 | chouimat | lsmith: not more than CF card |
| 20:34.18 | lsmith | ha! |
| 20:34.42 | lsmith | cf is much cheaper and with higher capacity |
| 20:34.46 | lsmith | and its a standard |
| 20:35.03 | lsmith | whereas memory stick is a sony (and acer) thing |
| 20:38.21 | treke | kergoth: is there no elseif for gmake? |
| 20:39.26 | kergoth | treke: dunno :) |
| 20:39.31 | chouimat | treke: I'm checking that |
| 20:39.45 | kergoth | treke: noticed the if/!if in include.pro in opie? i wanted an else.. |
| 20:39.46 | kergoth | eheh |
| 20:40.08 | kergoth | ah |
| 20:40.11 | kergoth | you said gmake not qmake |
| 20:40.17 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:40.23 | kergoth | i dont believe theres an elsif |
| 20:40.27 | treke | grrr |
| 20:40.44 | kergoth | if .. else.. if.. else.. if.. else.. endif.. endif.. endif.. |
| 20:40.49 | kergoth | tends to be the logic |
| 20:40.50 | kergoth | fun stuff |
| 20:41.04 | treke | kergoth: thats what i was thiking was going to happen :) |
| 20:41.06 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:41.15 | treke | nasty nasty nasty |
| 20:41.17 | chouimat | ljp_work: why we just move too cook instead |
| 20:41.59 | ljp_work | hehe ok |
| 20:43.25 | chouimat | http://today.cs.berkeley.edu/tos/ |
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| 20:46.15 | ljp_work | here even |
| 20:49.20 | chouimat | ljp_work: I need a new fridge here, just to keep more beer cold ... wait I will put them in outside |
| 20:50.26 | ljp_work | I knew someone in Marquette, Michigan that put his fridge on the poarch in the winter to save electricity |
| 20:50.47 | chouimat | ljp_work: hehe |
| 20:51.21 | chouimat | ljp_work: last time I did that, my beers bottle frozed so ... |
| 20:52.25 | chouimat | http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/29034.html |
| 20:52.40 | ljp_work | well, in the fridge they are protected from the cold |
| 20:52.53 | ljp_work | you have to unplug the fridge |
| 20:54.17 | Dilb | hi |
| 20:58.41 | kergoth | hey dilb |
| 21:01.23 | kergoth | ljp_work: we arent using ucb1x00, we're using a tc35143af.. the question is whether or not the problem you saw was the same bug |
| 21:01.32 | kergoth | ljp_work: I contacted denes (pnis) regarding it, he's going to check it out |
| 21:02.33 | ljp_work | I havent tried this on oz lately, does rc2 use the new audio stuff? |
| 21:04.31 | kergoth | ljp_work: nope, but rc3 will. |
| 21:04.46 | kergoth | ljp_work: denes pushed the changeset to add it to our 2.4.6 build the day after i released rc2 |
| 21:04.50 | kergoth | heeh |
| 21:04.55 | ljp_work | hehehe |
| 21:04.58 | ljp_work | ok |
| 21:05.12 | ljp_work | and its compatible with sharp? |
| 21:05.26 | kergoth | the sharp_buz comptabiility is there |
| 21:05.34 | kergoth | but theres also the dsp for buzzer |
| 21:05.41 | kergoth | and the other driver has the full OSS implementation |
| 21:05.43 | kergoth | no missing ioctls |
| 21:05.50 | ljp_work | oh, so I'll need to change the dev/dsp |
| 21:06.05 | kergoth | ? |
| 21:06.19 | ljp_work | doesnt /dev/dsp go to buzzer? |
| 21:06.28 | kergoth | you mean the dsp vs dsp1 ordering thing? |
| 21:06.32 | ljp_work | and /dev/dsp1 go to headphones |
| 21:06.38 | kergoth | we can probably make sure they get loaded in the right order so the devices are the same |
| 21:06.42 | kergoth | they're modules |
| 21:06.47 | kergoth | just a matter of loading them in teh right order :) |
| 21:07.36 | ljp_work | is there no windows distributed compiling?!? |
| 21:08.11 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:08.15 | kergoth | use cygwin gcc |
| 21:08.17 | kergoth | and build distcc |
| 21:08.19 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:09.09 | ljp_work | ehh thats not native |
| 21:09.27 | ljp_work | but I think thats it for windows... |
| 21:09.33 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:09.50 | tronical | ljp_work: m$ vc++ is fast enough to not need distributed compilation ;-} |
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| 21:10.08 | treke | hehe |
| 21:10.17 | kergoth | ~fishslap treke |
| 21:10.18 | | ACTION slaps treke up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 21:10.18 | ljp_work | kind of |
| 21:10.20 | kergoth | ~fishslap tronical |
| 21:10.21 | | ACTION slaps tronical up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 21:10.21 | kergoth | i missed |
| 21:10.24 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:10.28 | midway | ah cool |
| 21:10.34 | midway | Party ^^ |
| 21:10.57 | chouimat | hmmm M$ VStudio 7 --> 123hrs on kazaa |
| 21:11.13 | ljp_work | still, you would think there would be some for of it |
| 21:11.16 | tronical | kergoth: it's a loooooot faster and less memory hungry than gcc. (but of course full of bugs :( |
| 21:11.21 | chouimat | ulyx slap kergoth |
| 21:11.23 | ljp_work | dont use v7, get 6 |
| 21:11.40 | kergoth | i was killed by a chello? |
| 21:11.45 | kergoth | ~dict chello |
| 21:11.48 | chouimat | ljp_work: I have VC++ 6 student edition here |
| 21:11.50 | ljp_work | ha |
| 21:11.50 | kergoth | hm |
| 21:12.01 | ljp_work | I like vc++6 |
| 21:12.16 | kergoth | giounix.c:182: `SSIZE_MAX' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 21:12.17 | Dessimat0r | I'll get vc++ warez edition - for students |
| 21:12.17 | kergoth | fun |
| 21:12.41 | Dessimat0r | for college ;) |
| 21:12.41 | chouimat | Dessimat0r: get vstudio 6 |
| 21:12.45 | Dessimat0r | Getting a laptop soon |
| 21:12.49 | Dessimat0r | when i get my £5,000 |
| 21:12.53 | chouimat | kergoth: it's cello not chello |
| 21:12.56 | treke | chouimat: there was a student edition? I think the only difference was the license |
| 21:13.01 | kergoth | chouimat: ah yeah, i knew it looked wrong |
| 21:13.03 | Dessimat0r | for birthday |
| 21:13.05 | Dessimat0r | hehe |
| 21:13.16 | chouimat | treke: exactly, I can't use it anymore |
| 21:13.21 | Dessimat0r | The university I'm goping to has a wireless LAN |
| 21:13.25 | treke | chouimat: Why not? :) |
| 21:13.25 | Dessimat0r | goping = going |
| 21:13.34 | Dessimat0r | and the fastest connection in the country |
| 21:13.40 | chouimat | treke: yes why not :) |
| 21:13.44 | Dessimat0r | Liverppol Uni ;) |
| 21:13.48 | Dessimat0r | *Liverpool |
| 21:14.00 | treke | chouimat: as far as anyone can tell its a regular vc++. just burn the receipt :) |
| 21:14.17 | chouimat | huh? piscine de foie?? |
| 21:14.22 | Dessimat0r | ljp_work: what about the Voyager and Defiant editions? |
| 21:14.30 | ljp_work | cant do static builds, unless you have the macro I wrote |
| 21:14.55 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: saw that coming |
| 21:14.58 | Dessimat0r | hehe |
| 21:15.23 | Dessimat0r | I'm too predictable ;) |
| 21:15.41 | midway | Trekkie? |
| 21:15.45 | Dessimat0r | yup |
| 21:15.55 | tronical | ljp_work: hehehe |
| 21:16.01 | midway | Did you see the new movie? |
| 21:16.03 | chouimat | Dessimat0r: no, I want the Stargazer edition |
| 21:16.08 | Dessimat0r | yeah, it was shite |
| 21:16.11 | Dessimat0r | hehe |
| 21:16.31 | Dessimat0r | the new movie was total garbage compared to the others |
| 21:16.40 | tronical | ljp_work: you tr4d3? got a h4x0red kde in exchange, the professional version |
| 21:16.52 | Dessimat0r | stuff happened that was 'out of place' in the Star Trek universe |
| 21:17.02 | ljp_work | hehe |
| 21:17.29 | ljp_work | no thanks, I have access to the secret kde cvs |
| 21:17.33 | Dessimat0r | Wonder what KDE4.1 will be like? o_O |
| 21:17.41 | tronical | ljp_work: damn :) |
| 21:17.54 | midway | uh ok..but its a must go for me ^^ |
| 21:18.04 | Dessimat0r | hehe, the university I'm going to uses nothing but Linux |
| 21:18.13 | treke | Dessimat0r: a week long build :) |
| 21:18.19 | chouimat | Dessimat0r: javascript/php based :) |
| 21:18.25 | Dessimat0r | hehe |
| 21:18.27 | kergoth | ulyx: lart chouimat |
| 21:18.56 | chouimat | ulyx: lart kergoth |
| 21:19.10 | Dessimat0r | KDE4.0 - Made from Java! Slow as shite! |
| 21:19.35 | Dessimat0r | Java is teh past |
| 21:19.39 | Dessimat0r | sucks. |
| 21:20.27 | Dessimat0r | hrm.. wonder if it is possible to make a GUI out of Flash o_O |
| 21:20.47 | ljp_work | kde4 only only server on kde.org, and you only get a client that uses mono |
| 21:22.15 | ljp_work | and you rent the client |
| 21:22.33 | treke | Dessimat0r: KDE is already slow as shit :) |
| 21:23.20 | kergoth | treke: thats what prelink is for |
| 21:23.21 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:23.41 | treke | too bad it doesnt work with opie :) |
| 21:23.58 | tronical | too bad it doesn't work with arm ;( |
| 21:24.01 | ljp_work | what.. prelink? |
| 21:24.03 | tronical | or the Z at least :} |
| 21:24.14 | ljp_work | you never got that working? |
| 21:24.30 | kergoth | tronical: yeah, i still wonder what makes it explode. |
| 21:24.30 | tronical | kergoth: /me too |
| 21:24.35 | kergoth | ljp_work: if you prelink the libs in /lib and /usr/lib, ever executable in the system segfaults |
| 21:24.38 | kergoth | ljp_work: hehe |
| 21:24.47 | ljp_work | fun |
| 21:24.53 | ljp_work | nice april fools joke |
| 21:24.58 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:26.02 | kergoth | WOOT |
| 21:26.03 | kergoth | finally |
| 21:26.07 | Dessimat0r | ? |
| 21:26.09 | kergoth | got glib 2.2.0 to crosscompile |
| 21:26.13 | Dessimat0r | w00t |
| 21:26.13 | kergoth | that was a pain in the ass |
| 21:26.16 | Dessimat0r | hehe |
| 21:26.24 | kergoth | I had to extend buildroot's staging area |
| 21:26.25 | kergoth | bleh |
| 21:26.37 | ljp_work | you going to also add gpe to your oe build? |
| 21:26.40 | kergoth | eventually |
| 21:26.42 | kergoth | not today |
| 21:26.44 | kergoth | definately not todya |
| 21:26.55 | Dessimat0r | Check this out: o_O http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~CS8K-CYU/java/noiz2_applet_e.html |
| 21:28.57 | treke | grrrr |
| 21:31.12 | Dessimat0r | this game is perfect for the Zaurus |
| 21:31.16 | Dessimat0r | its even in the Z's res |
| 21:40.04 | chouimat | arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg |
| 21:42.34 | ljp_work | ? |
| 21:45.05 | Dessimat0r | ulyx lart chouimat |
| 21:45.12 | ljp_work | kergoth: are you going to have a minimal download to get the build config going, and then dl as needed? |
| 21:45.35 | ljp_work | or are people going to have to bk everything |
| 21:45.56 | treke | ulyx: lart bk |
| 21:46.13 | chouimat | wow!! |
| 21:46.19 | kergoth | ljp_work: what do you mean? |
| 21:46.37 | ljp_work | helix' build uses python ,and cvs' only whats needed to compile the target |
| 21:46.58 | Dessimat0r | we're leaving together, and still we stand tall |
| 21:47.15 | ljp_work | say you want o build only one thing.. are you going to have to have the whole tree? |
| 21:47.20 | kergoth | ljp_work: ? |
| 21:47.25 | kergoth | ljp_work: um, the bk tree only contains makefiles. |
| 21:47.27 | kergoth | ljp_work: thats it. |
| 21:47.33 | kergoth | ljp_work: everything is downloaded on the fly, only when needed. |
| 21:47.40 | ljp_work | ahh ok |
| 21:47.53 | treke | less than 2 megs right now |
| 21:48.22 | treke | and man does it balloon up :) |
| 21:48.58 | ljp_work | oe.org is pretty bare |
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| 21:50.00 | jsmanrique | hello |
| 21:50.05 | tronical | heh, just realize, the cool thing about the openembedded name is that germans can just say ö instead :) |
| 21:50.12 | treke | ha |
| 21:51.26 | ljp_work | haha |
| 21:51.34 | treke | silly foreigners |
| 21:53.21 | Dilb | treke: define foreigner :p |
| 21:53.34 | treke | Dilb: you |
| 21:53.50 | treke | :p |
| 21:54.00 | tronical | Dilb: everyone one not living in the us is a foreigner...err, wait :) |
| 21:54.15 | treke | more or less :) |
| 21:54.29 | treke | ah shit |
| 21:54.34 | Dilb | tronical: and the US citizens wonder why nobody likes them :) |
| 21:54.42 | treke | rebuilding the kernel forces glibc to rebuild |
| 21:56.28 | treke | hopefully ccache works |
| 21:58.43 | kergoth | treke: hm, rebuilding the kernel shouldnt cause glibc to rebuild, unless you're directly putting the kernel stamp in the glibc prerequisites for one of its targets |
| 21:59.02 | treke | dont think so, but that could be it |
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| 22:00.33 | kergoth | treke: thats why we dont do dependencies by depending on other apps stamps.. |
| 22:00.42 | kergoth | treke: because it'll rebuild an app if its dpendencies get rebuilt |
| 22:01.02 | kergoth | treke: make oesnt have a way to ignore datestamp on a prerquisite, which is one of the many gnu make limitations that drive me nuts |
| 22:02.05 | treke | make seems a bit nasty to me :) |
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| 22:06.38 | jsmanrique | hello |
| 22:06.53 | jsmanrique | what is main idea for openembedded? |
| 22:07.32 | chouimat | jsmanrique: wait you will see |
| 22:07.43 | jsmanrique | chouimat: what? |
| 22:07.48 | moray | chouimat: hm, that's not terribly concrete ;) |
| 22:08.10 | jsmanrique | chouimat: I'll see, when? |
| 22:08.10 | chouimat | moray: I know, we are working on that |
| 22:08.30 | jsmanrique | chouimat: is it just software project? |
| 22:08.50 | moray | chouimat: well, I saw ljp_'s message on the GPE mailing list, so came over from GPE to see what's going on - reading the site didn't make things much clearer to me |
| 22:09.25 | jsmanrique | moray: so do I |
| 22:11.20 | chouimat | ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG! fucking Visula c++ |
| 22:12.04 | Dessimat0r | Har raH |
| 22:12.05 | moray | the comment about CML2 in the Wiki suggested something along lines similar to http://www.emdebian.org/ , but I'm not sure what the scope of the project is meant to be / what distinguishes it from others in the same area |
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| 22:12.24 | kergoth | kenb: glib 2.2.0 is in buildroot |
| 22:12.28 | kergoth | kenb: it was a fucking pain in the ass |
| 22:12.31 | kergoth | kenb: but its in |
| 22:12.58 | chouimat | kergoth: answer moray and jsmanrique your english is better than mine :) |
| 22:13.09 | Dessimat0r | talking about pains in the arse, Design Technology is another |
| 22:13.29 | chouimat | Dessimat0r: any visual studio 6 iso image handy? |
| 22:13.33 | RealUlli | night folks! :-) |
| 22:13.39 | Dessimat0r | chouimat: no, sorry :/ |
| 22:13.47 | Dessimat0r | chouimat: only Delphi 7 |
| 22:14.05 | kergoth | moray, jsmanrique: Open Embedded is a generally useful infrastructure for embedded system development. Which includes a sane buildsystem which handles both package builds and image creation for any arbitrary target. It will also consist of a single package information repository which contains the necessary steps to build any number of packages, for multiple versions of said packages. |
| 22:14.07 | chouimat | Dessimat0r: Ok I'm going to kazaa it then |
| 22:14.13 | Dessimat0r | hehe, k |
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| 22:14.44 | kergoth | moray, jsmanrique: said infrastructure will be both distribution and OS agnostic. It could quite easily produce a complete build for a linux/ipaq distribution, as well as a netbsd/zaurus.. or what have you |
| 22:15.04 | kergoth | moray, jsmanrique: it will support numerous package output forms, including but not limited to: .ipk, .deb, .rpm, .tgz |
| 22:15.31 | chouimat | kergoth: when can we do a discussion about the build system, like a brain storiming |
| 22:15.55 | kergoth | chouimat: good question.. |
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| 22:16.22 | jsmanrique | kergoth: numerous package forms? |
| 22:16.35 | kergoth | yes. |
| 22:16.42 | jsmanrique | kergoth: what kind of software could admin packs in that way? |
| 22:16.53 | chouimat | ibot sen prpplague |
| 22:16.54 | | chouimat: wish i knew |
| 22:16.55 | kergoth | I just said, it could produce rpm, tgz, ipk, deb |
| 22:17.16 | chouimat | jsmanrique: or any package you may need |
| 22:17.19 | kergoth | its distribution agnostic. it could easily produce a rpm based redhat like distribution, as easily as it could product a openzaurus/familiar distribution |
| 22:17.28 | Dessimat0r | ulyx chouimat |
| 22:17.32 | Dessimat0r | ulyx lart chouimat |
| 22:17.33 | kergoth | right. its a generally useful package build system, that also happens to cover image creation |
| 22:18.12 | midway | good night you all |
| 22:18.41 | chouimat | Dessimat0r: what I did? |
| 22:19.19 | kergoth | moray, jsmanrique: basically, this is a central repo of information that will easily allow multiple embedded distributions and projects to easily collaborate |
| 22:19.38 | kergoth | moray, jsmanrique: example, a patch i produce to make something crossompilable could easily be utilized for any given distribution |
| 22:19.50 | kergoth | prior to pushing said patches up to the maintainers of course |
| 22:22.47 | Dessimat0r | chouimat: becoming op ;) |
| 22:23.01 | chouimat | Dessimat0r: :P |
| 22:23.05 | chouimat | ls |
| 22:23.10 | Dessimat0r | rofl |
| 22:23.34 | Dessimat0r | Contents of [/] - 1 files |
| 22:23.35 | Dessimat0r | </lart> |
| 22:24.03 | chouimat | ulyx: lart Dessimat0r |
| 22:24.57 | Dessimat0r | http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/pierrat103/images/rat1.jpg |
| 22:25.10 | Dessimat0r | ulyx: lart chouimat |
| 22:25.15 | Dessimat0r | ulyx: lart chouimat |
| 22:25.34 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 22:25.44 | Dessimat0r | ulyx: lart treke |
| 22:26.29 | kergoth | moray, jsmanrique: is it clear to you guys? |
| 22:28.26 | moray | kergoth: clearer than it was anyway, thanks |
| 22:28.49 | jsmanrique | kergoth: thanks |
| 22:30.25 | kergoth | moray: np. its still largely in teh conceptual stage, so even we dont have everything laid out yet :) |
| 22:30.46 | chouimat | kergoth: huh? we have a layout? |
| 22:31.44 | sandtrip | for the sharp zaurus sl-5000 - which SD chips do you folks recomend? |
| 22:32.02 | mickeyl | mmc |
| 22:32.18 | kergoth | chouimat: in my head ;) |
| 22:32.33 | kergoth | sandtrip: avoid sandisk like the plague |
| 22:33.06 | sandtrip | so kingston or lexar? |
| 22:33.39 | dscordia | sandtrip: lexar works fine for me |
| 22:33.41 | sm | yes, bad sandisk |
| 22:33.41 | chouimat | kergoth: an idea for the buildsystem: PLUGIN ... so I can use it for my proprietairy products |
| 22:33.57 | sandtrip | i might be able to convince the firm to sping for the 1 gig microdrive but i'm not sure yet |
| 22:34.02 | dscordia | kergoth: why no sandisk? |
| 22:34.15 | sm | my 64MB is screwy |
| 22:34.45 | dscordia | that sucks...especially since sandisk is probably the most recognized name |
| 22:34.57 | chouimat | I have a 64MB CF (sandisk) and a 32MB SD (sandisk), and 3 16MB CF (butterfly) no problems here |
| 22:35.34 | sandtrip | my main issue is that i want to use the CF for the wifi card so i need a larger sd |
| 22:35.53 | chouimat | sandtrip: MMC |
| 22:36.06 | sandtrip | chouimat - MMC? |
| 22:36.26 | sandtrip | multimedia card? |
| 22:36.31 | chouimat | yes |
| 22:36.43 | sandtrip | you're saying go with that over sd? |
| 22:36.57 | chouimat | sandtrip: if you can |
| 22:37.15 | sandtrip | why? |
| 22:37.24 | kergoth | SD isnt open |
| 22:37.35 | kergoth | you cant have an open source sd driver |
| 22:38.07 | sandtrip | ah! does that mean openembedded doesn't support sd? |
| 22:38.41 | kergoth | OZ supports sd on 2.4.6 on the zaurus |
| 22:38.41 | treke | open embedded is probably a bit to general to say what hardware it supports |
| 22:38.51 | kergoth | yep |
| 22:39.15 | treke | while oi doesnt support sd |
| 22:39.28 | kergoth | sandtrip: we have a binary only driver for the zaurus only, for 2.4.6 only |
| 22:40.01 | sandtrip | gotcha - i grok then. |
| 22:40.35 | sandtrip | i'm still not up to running oz quite yet - still running the sharp based rom until next week when i'll have more time to move over |
| 22:40.57 | sandtrip | seems to be a large price difference bwteen the MMC cards and the SD cards... |
| 22:41.11 | dscordia | kergoth: is there anything you think we could do to help convince sharp to build a module for us? |
| 22:41.24 | dscordia | kergoth: like an email campaign-type of thing? |
| 22:41.46 | kergoth | dscordia: possibly. its on hold for now. we'll see what our options are after the 3.1 release |
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| 22:42.06 | noda | Moo! |
| 22:42.06 | dscordia | kergoth: cool. |
| 22:42.25 | kergoth | dscordia: i dont have the time to both get a release out the door in short order and do the kernel dev as well :) |
| 22:42.27 | chouimat | pooooo! |
| 22:42.29 | kergoth | dscordia: so one gets delayed :) |
| 22:42.32 | noda | kergoth: Have you heard of "the Linux Progress Patch"? I think it'd be pretty neat in OZ :) |
| 22:42.44 | kergoth | yes |
| 22:42.47 | kergoth | i know of it |
| 22:43.31 | TheMasterMind1 | sup |
| 22:43.37 | noda | Bah, thought I was gonna show you something unbelievably new and exciting :P |
| 22:43.39 | noda | TheMasterMind1: Moo |
| 22:43.46 | mickeyl | hiho tmm |
| 22:43.47 | noda | Oh well, I'll just do engineering homework instead :) |
| 22:43.54 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i added glib 2.2.0 to buildroot |
| 22:43.58 | dscordia | kergoth: no problem with that. im sure everyone appreciates how much work you do |
| 22:44.06 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: it was a bitch. i nominate you to add gtk 2.2.0 :) |
| 22:44.24 | mickeyl | nah, don't tempt people :-D |
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| 22:46.03 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:46.08 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: eh, no thanks :) |
| 22:46.12 | TheMasterMind1 | did you get that orinoco mess figured out? |
| 22:46.16 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i already did the hard part |
| 22:46.19 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: yeah, orinoco is in |
| 22:46.21 | TheMasterMind1 | cool |
| 22:46.23 | TheMasterMind1 | email shmoo? |
| 22:46.28 | kergoth | naw, didnt have time |
| 22:46.32 | TheMasterMind1 | alright |
| 22:46.32 | kergoth | feel free, the patches are in bk |
| 22:46.35 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:46.35 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 22:46.56 | kergoth | hmm, i need to buy a couple old boxes for servers and firewalls at my house |
| 22:46.57 | mickeyl | kergoth: any improvments for the symbol driver in conjunction with the orinoco base? last version i tried still freezes in monitor mode |
| 22:47.06 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm, i'm trying to figure out why these goddamn imagemaps won't work with netscape or opera |
| 22:47.16 | TheMasterMind1 | mickeyl: freezes? |
| 22:47.16 | kergoth | mickeyl: I believe tmm pulled in the fix for that when he did his work on the drivers |
| 22:47.18 | TheMasterMind1 | works fine for me |
| 22:47.22 | kergoth | ah |
| 22:47.23 | treke | this one should actually work :) |
| 22:47.27 | kergoth | treke: hehe |
| 22:47.32 | mickeyl | tmm: do you have a symbol card? |
| 22:47.34 | kergoth | treke: you know how many times i've said that testing oOZ? |
| 22:47.37 | kergoth | ;) |
| 22:47.56 | TheMasterMind1 | mickeyl: i have the socket low power wlan |
| 22:48.20 | kergoth | that reminds me |
| 22:48.33 | kergoth | i forgot to yank the socket patch from kernel-modules, increase its revision.. |
| 22:48.42 | kergoth | treke: send me a buildroot patch, i want to split our kernel modules |
| 22:48.44 | kergoth | treke: :) |
| 22:48.50 | mickeyl | tmm1: hmm... i have the [supposedly identical] symbol and can reproduce a total freeze when using monitor mode with channel hopping |
| 22:48.51 | kergoth | treke: or tar up your packages/ dir |
| 22:48.53 | kergoth | packages/blah that is |
| 22:49.12 | treke | kergoth: thats what I'm still working on. I've gotten the system to boot just fine, been having problems with the split packages though :) this one should fix it though |
| 22:49.20 | kergoth | treke: ah |
| 22:49.22 | kergoth | treke: cool |
| 22:49.33 | kergoth | treke: let me know, i want to get em split for the 3.1 OZ release |
| 22:49.47 | TheMasterMind1 | mickeyl: which driver are you using |
| 22:50.18 | mickeyl | TheMasterMind1: last time i checked a stock OZ 3.1rc1 release |
| 22:50.28 | TheMasterMind1 | mickeyl: hmm, it should work in 2.95+ |
| 22:50.33 | TheMasterMind1 | since i fixed it in 2.95 |
| 22:50.40 | TheMasterMind1 | without channel hopping itsfine? |
| 22:51.02 | mickeyl | TheMasterMind1: yes. but as soon as channel hopping starts... a few seconds... and boom - soft reset time |
| 22:51.31 | kergoth | i should put soft reset back into 2.4.19 |
| 22:51.32 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:52.14 | treke | hmmm. maybe I should have packaged 2.4.19 :p |
| 22:52.23 | treke | oh well, that should be a trivial change |
| 22:54.14 | TheMasterMind1 | mickeyl: that's interesting, i don't see why it would happen |
| 22:56.46 | mickeyl | TheMasterMind1: yeah, no idea here too. and it's not my hardware - we have three Z with symbol cards which all show the same behaviour. |
| 22:57.22 | kergoth | ah, |
| 22:57.28 | TheMasterMind1 | and you're using the latest kernel modules ipk and oz kernel right |
| 22:57.30 | mickeyl | maybe some timing differences of symbol versus spectrum HW? |
| 22:57.46 | mickeyl | TheMasterMind1: yes, just reproduced the freeze on a fresh 3.1rc2 :( |
| 22:58.18 | mickeyl | symbol versus socket even |
| 22:59.23 | treke | chouimat: thanks for recommending Dune, been reading it and enjoying it |
| 22:59.34 | TheMasterMind1 | mickeyl: hmmf |
| 22:59.36 | kergoth | mm dune |
| 22:59.36 | chouimat | treke: which one of the serie? |
| 22:59.38 | kergoth | good stuff |
| 22:59.47 | treke | chouimat: first one, I think |
| 22:59.56 | TheMasterMind1 | mickeyl: might be, though the cards are supposed to be the same |
| 23:00.30 | chouimat | treke: the black cover? |
| 23:00.31 | treke | chouimat: the one where the Atreides go to Arrakis and Harraken tries to kill off the family |
| 23:00.37 | mickeyl | TheMasterMind1: yep. nothing nice to debug even... no kernel panic but just a fscking freeze |
| 23:00.42 | treke | chouimat: dunno, I'm reading it in opie-reader :) |
| 23:00.48 | kergoth | treke: the first one is great |
| 23:00.50 | kergoth | treke: best, imho |
| 23:01.02 | treke | need to order a copy so i dont feel guilty :) |
| 23:01.22 | chouimat | kergoth: the problem is you begin to understand the imperium correctly in the fourth :) |
| 23:02.30 | chouimat | need to finish House Harkonnen, House Corrino and Butlerian Jihad |
| 23:03.10 | kergoth | In file included from e_idea.c:66: |
| 23:03.10 | kergoth | ../../include/openssl/idea.h:63: #error IDEA is disabled. |
| 23:03.11 | kergoth | hmm |
| 23:06.11 | treke | ok. _this_ time it will work |
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| 23:09.01 | treke | hmmm. somehow I doubt this image should be 11 megs |
| 23:09.03 | treke | er patch |
| 23:14.02 | chouimat | wow! the Quebec solution to help urban transport .... a new taex of 0.015$ per gas litre .... |
| 23:32.54 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: hey, i have a list of words and i wanna remove all duplicates |
| 23:32.58 | TheMasterMind1 | bash script |
| 23:33.23 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:33.38 | kergoth | is the list newline seperated or space seperated? |
| 23:33.41 | TheMasterMind1 | newline |
| 23:33.44 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 23:33.48 | TheMasterMind1 | grep isn't working though |
| 23:33.49 | TheMasterMind1 | bleh |
| 23:33.49 | kergoth | cat list | sort -u |
| 23:33.52 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:33.56 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm, cool |
| 23:33.58 | TheMasterMind1 | the problem is this |
| 23:34.00 | kergoth | cat list | sort | uniq |
| 23:34.01 | TheMasterMind1 | someone is DDOSing us |
| 23:34.04 | TheMasterMind1 | with a short list of ips |
| 23:34.05 | kergoth | fun |
| 23:34.10 | TheMasterMind1 | and its flooding the error_log |
| 23:34.24 | TheMasterMind1 | so i guess i'll stop apache, get a unique list |
| 23:34.27 | TheMasterMind1 | iptables magic |
| 23:34.30 | TheMasterMind1 | and restart again |
| 23:34.30 | TheMasterMind1 | :) |
| 23:34.40 | kergoth | ulyx: lart openssl's buildsystem |
| 23:35.07 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: put ipkg-build in ipkg cvs ;) |
| 23:36.40 | TheMasterMind1 | bah |
| 23:36.41 | TheMasterMind1 | i will |
| 23:37.02 | pb_ | isn't it there already? |
| 23:37.07 | kergoth | er |
| 23:37.12 | kergoth | s/ipkg-build/ipkg-link/ |
| 23:37.18 | kergoth | sorry, its 5:37pm |
| 23:37.24 | pb_ | ah |
| 23:37.29 | pb_ | heh |
| 23:37.29 | kergoth | :) |
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| 23:40.20 | TheMasterMind1 | grep USER error_log | cut -d[ -f4 | cut -d' ' -f2 | cut -d] -f1 | sort -u | less |
| 23:40.21 | TheMasterMind1 | hehe |
| 23:40.47 | TheMasterMind1 | now to ip block them all |
| 23:47.07 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:47.09 | kergoth | script that too |
| 23:47.13 | kergoth | grep USER error_log | cut -d[ -f4 | cut -d' ' -f2 | cut |
| 23:47.25 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:47.28 | kergoth | ;) |
| 23:47.53 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 23:47.53 | TheMasterMind1 | nice |
| 23:48.01 | TheMasterMind1 | `cat` |
| 23:48.03 | TheMasterMind1 | that makes sense |
| 23:48.06 | TheMasterMind1 | i was wondering how to do that |
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| 23:50.26 | treke | hmmm touchscreen doesnt work |
| 23:54.51 | Neo|Work | anyone here watch 'Alias'? |
| 23:54.51 | chouimat | kergoth: www.rtems.com |
| 23:54.58 | chouimat | Neo|Work: yup me |
| 23:55.22 | kergoth | treke: use the correct options in the qt build? |
| 23:55.49 | Neo|Work | Seen the last episode (Phase One" I believe? |
| 23:56.05 | chouimat | Neo|Work: yes |
| 23:56.17 | ljp_ | I love when bugs are not my stupidity or fault |
| 23:56.33 | treke | kergoth: maybe. I'll double check it. After I figure out the zImage symlink, it will be smooth sailing through the more minor details |
| 23:56.47 | kergoth | treke: excellent |
| 23:57.00 | Neo|Work | chouimat: Must say it was an amazing episode where they more or less changed the entire premise of the series |
| 23:57.12 | Neo|Work | I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like that before. |
| 23:57.28 | chouimat | Neo|Work: exactly ... |
| 23:58.05 | Neo|Work | it's potentially risky but refreshing |
| 23:58.23 | chouimat | Neo|Work: was way better than the previous show on abc |
| 23:59.12 | Neo|Work | it'll be interesting to see where it leads too |
| 23:59.32 | Neo|Work | The "killing of the friend part and replacing her" was also interesting |
| 23:59.43 | Neo|Work | although doubtful it would work in reality |
| 23:59.54 | ljp_ | wow kde3 is fast |
| 23:59.56 | Neo|Work | even if you did find / make someone that looked identical to the subject |
