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| 12:24.04 | Crofton | anyone here work with the monta vista stuff? | 
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| 16:12.51 | mindfunk | Crofton: ?? | 
| 16:13.04 | mindfunk | Crofton: what are you asking exactly? | 
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| 16:14.17 | Crofton | hang on | 
| 16:14.25 | mindfunk | kristian: just curious, who are you? | 
| 16:22.24 | mindfunk | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4552742.stm | 
| 16:30.20 | *** topic/#OL by mindfunk -> http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode50/usc_sup_01_50_10_36.html | 
| 16:32.42 | mindfunk | Crofton: ping | 
| 16:33.02 | mindfunk | Crofton: I need an acknowledgement and you are the only person around | 
| 16:33.34 | Crofton | heh | 
| 16:34.44 | mindfunk | Crofton: so, you know how the bush admin (via gonzalez) was arguing that bush had permission to violate the FISA act because congress had given him "necessary and proper" (er, or some such) permissions to conduct a war? | 
| 16:34.58 | mindfunk | I'm not making that up, right? | 
| 16:35.41 | mindfunk | http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002698234_targets22.html | 
| 16:35.59 | mindfunk | Crofton: ping | 
| 16:36.34 | mindfunk | read the last paragraph on page 2 of this: | 
| 16:36.35 | mindfunk | http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fisa/court2005.html | 
| 16:36.46 | mindfunk | which was written by gonzalez | 
| 16:36.56 | mindfunk | er... rather, he answered the questions | 
| 16:39.25 | mindfunk | oops | 
| 16:39.35 | mindfunk | http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fisa/doj102005.pdf | 
| 16:39.47 | mindfunk | I meant the last paragraph on that link | 
| 16:39.58 | mindfunk | er... page 2 that is | 
| 16:41.05 | mindfunk | for some reason, it is marked as page 115 in the doc | 
| 16:41.09 | mindfunk | though, it is page 2 | 
| 16:41.20 | mindfunk | I guess it is a subsection of a larger doc | 
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| 16:43.16 | cheeka | does usb-wlan work on osk | 
| 16:47.01 | cheeka | i am trying to get usb-wlan working on osk. i just wanted to know if it works or anyone has tried it before. i am using 2.6 kernel and osk board | 
| 16:48.35 | Crofton | back to the monta vista question | 
| 16:48.46 | mindfunk | ok | 
| 16:48.56 | Crofton | how bad does it suck? | 
| 16:49.00 | mindfunk | Crofton: can I at least get  a confirmation of the other thing | 
| 16:49.21 | mindfunk | Crofton: well, it sucks a lot in some ways, very little in others | 
| 16:49.34 | Crofton | um the other thing? I've been on the phone | 
| 16:49.44 | cheeka | crofton: i have seen u in oe group. do u work on osk | 
| 16:49.44 | mindfunk | nm | 
| 16:49.59 | Crofton | yeah | 
| 16:50.09 | Crofton | but I haven't tried wlan on usb | 
| 16:50.37 | Crofton | It is likely I will end up doing some work on a Davinci board using monta vista | 
| 16:51.13 | Crofton | and I find the mv website annoying :) | 
| 16:52.16 | Crofton | mindfunk, criminals always claim they are innocent | 
| 16:55.10 | mindfunk | tell that to a-atwood  | 
| 16:55.27 | Crofton | heh | 
| 16:55.57 | Crofton | It is OK to wiretap people will rank up there with I did not have sex with that women | 
| 16:56.28 | Crofton | every new generation has to relearn the lessons learned by the previous generation | 
| 16:56.42 | Crofton | Does Montavista provide kernel 2.6? | 
| 16:57.02 | mindfunk | um... in the newer versions, yeah | 
| 16:57.11 | mindfunk | dunno what platforms are supported though | 
| 16:57.17 | Crofton | particularly for newer processors | 
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| 16:57.28 | Crofton | heh, I am not entirely clear what the platform is | 
| 16:57.36 | mindfunk | Crofton: 2430? | 
| 16:57.40 | Crofton | other than some form of Davinci processor | 
| 16:57.46 | Crofton | I don't know | 
| 16:57.59 | Crofton | I do't think so though | 
| 16:58.10 | Crofton | I suspect you know a lot :) | 
| 16:58.16 | mindfunk | get me the processor name  and I'll find out | 
| 16:58.21 | Crofton | The differences soound marketroid related | 
| 16:58.27 | Crofton | I'll let you know | 
| 16:58.32 | mindfunk | Crofton: 2.6 will be supported on 2430 and 3430 | 
| 16:58.55 | Crofton | We have to get our stuff running on one for some dudes | 
| 16:59.02 | Crofton | quicky | 
| 16:59.17 | Crofton | well, if the $$ are correct that is | 
| 16:59.20 | mindfunk | dudes == al queda??\ | 
| 16:59.27 | Crofton | heh no | 
| 16:59.31 | mindfunk | :) | 
| 16:59.33 | cheekaa | any experts from ti  | 
| 16:59.45 | cheekaa | i need some help regarding wlan on osk | 
| 16:59.50 | mindfunk | ppl from TI, I dunno if we are experts | 
| 16:59.57 | mindfunk | Crofton has an osk | 
| 17:00.03 | Crofton | ChanServ, you may be an expert | 
| 17:00.10 | mindfunk | cheekaa: ask Crofton about his nokia 770 | 
| 17:00.11 | Crofton | but he hasn't tried usb wlan | 
| 17:00.22 | Crofton | that has wireless lan | 
| 17:00.41 | cheekaa | i know it has connextant wlan | 
| 17:00.49 | Crofton | but not usb? | 
| 17:00.49 | cheekaa | but i am trying a usb-wlan | 
| 17:01.10 | Crofton | can you get the usb-wlan running on a normal linux machine OK? | 
| 17:02.00 | Crofton | If I was trying to do that, I would make sure it worked on a "normal" oc | 
| 17:02.03 | Crofton | er oc | 
| 17:02.06 | Crofton | ack PC | 
| 17:02.13 | cheekaa | yes its working | 
| 17:02.20 | Crofton | then see what was different about behavior on the osk | 
| 17:03.45 | Crofton | I have had a USRP working on usb | 
| 17:05.59 | cheekaa | ok i shall try | 
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