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| 15:30.58 | pmw | TheCollector || gram: coming in today? |
| 15:40.31 | TheCollector | pmw: no |
| 15:54.48 | gram | maybe late. |
| 15:54.55 | gram | as in after 10. |
| 15:57.59 | TheCollector | well, that's pretty obvious, as it's almost 11 |
| 15:58.10 | gram | s/10/10pm |
| 16:00.26 | TheCollector | you're seriously thinking about coming in after 10PM? |
| 16:00.37 | gram | yeah. |
| 16:00.52 | TheCollector | that's sick |
| 16:01.01 | gram | i've done it before. |
| 16:01.11 | TheCollector | and just work all night? |
| 16:01.13 | gram | a few weeks ago i stayed until 2 |
| 16:01.20 | gram | not all night... probably 3-4 hours |
| 16:01.31 | TheCollector | ah |
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| 17:47.48 | TimRiker | TheCollector: tye is still holding that sandia rack waiting for a good home. |
| 17:48.04 | TimRiker | he has 3 more racks in various sizes if anyone is interested. |
| 17:48.38 | TimRiker | s/of/off/ |
| 17:53.06 | gram | back to work? |
| 18:41.29 | TimRiker | any forest lane folks coming over for ice cream? or is there a 75th party over there too? |
| 18:58.57 | pmw | Ice cream?? |
| 18:59.19 | pmw | I'm intrigued, sir, and wish to subscribe to your newsletter. |
| 19:00.39 | pmw | BTW, I didn't know that Sonia was a TI employee; I thought she was one of us. |
| 19:01.01 | tsowell | she just finished orientation |
| 19:01.14 | pmw | Was she hired for our team? |
| 19:01.18 | tsowell | yep |
| 19:08.10 | TheCollector | TimRiker: yeah, I missed my opportunity this morning to get it; Hopefully I'll be able to reschedule for later this week |
| 19:15.27 | tsowell | mindfunk: ? |
| 19:24.20 | mindfunk | tsowell: what? |
| 19:24.35 | mindfunk | tsowell: hurry... the baby is stirring |
| 19:25.46 | tsowell | mindfunk: where are you? |
| 19:26.06 | mindfunk | tsowell: home... why? |
| 19:26.16 | tsowell | mindfunk: just wondering |
| 19:26.30 | tsowell | mindfunk: do you like your new baby? |
| 19:26.41 | Wingnut | can you send it back if you don't like it? |
| 19:26.47 | mindfunk | tsowell: yeah... |
| 19:26.55 | tsowell | mindfunk: cool. is it cute? |
| 19:29.39 | mindfunk | tsowell: yeah... she's cute |
| 19:29.46 | tsowell | mindfunk: what's her name? |
| 19:29.52 | mindfunk | all babies kinda look alike though |
| 19:30.00 | mindfunk | maya (magic in hindi) |
| 19:30.06 | pmw | Ooh, good name. |
| 19:30.15 | pmw | Maya in "Just Shoot Me!" was hot. |
| 19:30.26 | Crofton | heh |
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| 19:30.40 | tsowell | mindfunk: that's a pretty name |
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| 19:30.49 | pmw | Heh. |
| 19:30.50 | Crofton | all babies are hideous, except to their parents :) |
| 19:30.58 | Crofton | they get better though |
| 19:34.00 | TimRiker | pmw: oh. there was ice cream between PCN and PCS but they are cleaning up now. |
| 19:34.29 | a-atwood | TimRiker: aye. I managed to ignore it for health reasons. |
| 19:34.47 | *** topic/#OL by TimRiker -> OMAP-Linux || http://eLinux.org/wiki/OmapLinux || news://news.ti.com/ti.comp.os.linux <- for TIers || <tsowell> mindfunk: do you like your new baby? <Wingnut> can you send it back if you don't like it? <mindfunk> tsowell: yeah... |
| 19:41.15 | Crofton | heh, you can sell new babies for good money |
| 19:41.43 | Crofton | but the price drops rapidly over the first few months and becomes negative until they are 18 |
| 19:41.50 | tsowell | I'd rather sell organs. already have more than I need |
| 20:04.06 | TheCollector | tsowell: but babies are a renewable resource |
| 20:09.22 | tsowell | TheCollector: yeah, but I'd have to find someone who wanted to make babies with me |
| 20:10.19 | pmw | tsowell: The hardest find is bootstrapping yourself. Once you produce a female, you can cycle to the beginning. |
| 20:10.50 | tsowell | pshah, I don't have time to take care of breeding populations |
| 20:10.57 | tsowell | I'll just sell livers. I can make tons of those |
| 20:11.04 | pmw | Once of the advantages of living in Texas is that it *is* "the south". |
| 20:11.32 | TheCollector | pmw: fsck that, it's the west |
| 20:11.38 | pmw | Alternately, find a market for starfish. |
| 20:11.40 | tsowell | midwest |
| 20:11.50 | TheCollector | don't compare me w/ some redneck from missouri |
| 20:11.59 | prpplague | hehe, yea well, if you have an iq over 85 in north and east texas, your chances of finding a woman are slim to none |
| 20:12.29 | pmw | Notice: we have a Linux ITR team board observer. |
| 20:12.37 | pmw | ...who just left. |
| 20:12.54 | prpplague | ITR? |
| 20:13.20 | pmw | Never mind; I seem to have confused the simple minds. |
| 20:13.28 | pmw | ACK. |
| 20:13.32 | pmw | Not you, prpplague. |
| 20:13.34 | TheCollector | prpplague: integration, testing & release |
| 20:13.51 | prpplague | TheCollector: ahh |
| 20:14.06 | pmw | ...yeah, that. I was referring to tsowell. |
| 20:15.20 | prpplague | pmw: hehe, i'm famliar with some of the operations there, but i didn't recognize that acronym |
| 20:18.16 | tsowell | yeah, we usually call it IT&R |
| 20:18.27 | tsowell | but that most have been too long for pmw to remember |
| 20:21.02 | TheCollector | anyone have one they want to part with? |
| 20:21.33 | tsowell | oh that reminds me.. I need to get my Nomad unborrowed |
| 20:21.38 | tsowell | that thing rocks |
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| 20:48.59 | gram | it's a eunuch |
| 20:51.05 | TheCollector | heh |
| 20:51.12 | TheCollector | ~lart TestQuest |
| 20:51.41 | prpplague^2 | anyone have experience using gpios for a 8x8 keypad matrix? |
| 20:54.12 | tsowell | theoretical experience |
| 20:54.22 | tsowell | with a 4x4 matrix |
| 20:54.46 | prpplague^2 | tsowell: hmm, theoretical? |
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| 20:57.26 | prpplague | richardw: hey hey boss man |
| 20:57.27 | tsowell | prpplague: yeah, meaning I've thought about using gpios for a 4x4 matrix |
| 20:57.32 | richardw | Anyone know a of a good example for compiling a relocatable section of C code. I want to write a bit of code in C, and relocate it to SRAM. |
| 20:57.43 | richardw | prpplague: hi'a. how goes things. |
| 20:57.48 | prpplague | richardw: not too bad |
| 20:57.48 | gram | relocatable? as in relative addressing? |
| 20:57.56 | richardw | gram: yes |
| 20:58.06 | gram | richardw: -fPIC? |
| 20:58.13 | gram | though how that works varies from arch to arch |
| 20:58.20 | richardw | you need more than that... |
| 20:58.26 | gram | what do you mean? |
| 20:58.39 | prpplague | iirc you might look some sections blob, seems like it has some code |
| 20:59.07 | richardw | i've cheated in u-boot before by careful coding...ie use a switch statment and your dead, use an if statment things are ok. |
| 20:59.37 | richardw | the end goal is to relocate all code and global data references, then do a stack switch so I can use locals. |
| 20:59.44 | gram | wouldn't -fPIC and some code to set the base register in asm work? |
| 21:00.02 | gram | will the address in sram always vary? |
| 21:00.11 | richardw | -fpic -FPIC, maybe I've been reading the man pages but I'm not completely sure its enough. |
| 21:00.46 | richardw | there is a nice xillinx ap note which shows you how to define special sections in your linker map, and then how to manually copy... |
| 21:01.17 | richardw | I've have examples and know how to copy and write safe assembly sequences.... |
| 21:01.51 | richardw | I am tired of hand coding a pile of assembly, and think its about time to try and use the compiler. |
| 21:02.47 | gram | what do you mean by relocateable? |
| 21:03.29 | richardw | gram: I mean, I'll compile a .o into the kernel, and at init time of my module, I will copy the code into SRAM, then fill in some function pointers so I can call it. |
| 21:03.46 | richardw | There is do dynamic linker loader to help me out. |
| 21:03.46 | gram | the address in sram is constant? |
| 21:03.54 | richardw | yes... |
| 21:04.24 | richardw | perhaps more position dependent... |
| 21:04.35 | richardw | or it can be. |
| 21:05.54 | richardw | http://www.xilinx.com/bvdocs/appnotes/xapp642.pdf |
| 21:06.04 | richardw | seems to be the nicest bit for ppc. |
| 21:07.30 | gram | what arch do you need it for? |
| 21:07.36 | richardw | ARM |
| 21:08.17 | gram | will the example they have work? with assembly changed of course? |
| 21:09.20 | richardw | I think it may, though it uses -mrelocatable-lib for a compiler option, and i've only found references for that in PPC land. |
| 21:10.19 | gram | the man page seems sparse on the details as to how that works |
| 21:10.51 | richardw | yea, thats why I thought i'd ask... |
| 21:11.25 | richardw | i think i can probably create some code given a specific version of the compiler which does what i want, but i'd rather it not be breaking every time an update comes out. |
| 21:11.51 | richardw | assembly, while tedious is very controllable...but a pain to extend. |
| 21:11.52 | gram | http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0406.0/0648.html |
| 21:12.59 | richardw | i suppose i should just compile with -fpic and -fPIC and see the differneces. |
| 21:13.14 | richardw | one is susposed to try and generate a shorter offset table... |
| 21:13.43 | gram | i thought they used addressing relative to an address in a base register (%ebx on x86) |
| 21:14.26 | richardw | probably, the mans around these seem to say for arm r9 or rsomething can be used to store you global pointer. |
| 21:14.42 | richardw | ... if you code simply enough, the data just gets coded in as pc relative loads. |
| 21:14.50 | TimRiker | http://uploads.ungrounded.net/206000/206373_numanuma.swf - what some people do in their spare time. |
| 21:17.44 | richardw | TimRiker: what is that...some guy singing? |
| 21:18.23 | TimRiker | just another thing hoping around the net. like the badger badger and all your base stuff. |
| 21:18.35 | TimRiker | er hopping.. not hoping. |
| 21:19.28 | richardw | prpplague: what coutry are you in now? seems like the one in the news these days... |
| 21:20.22 | prpplague | richardw: i'm in barbados, the one in the news is aruba |
| 21:21.10 | richardw | ah, both islands... is it close :) (lazy to look). |
| 21:27.26 | prpplague | richardw: close is relative |
| 21:27.32 | prpplague | richardw: its about 300 miles |
| 21:28.22 | richardw | prpplague: both in caribbean anyway. isn't the equator starting to get bit close? seems like it might get a bit steamy there. South still, by ? 500mi, must be warmer than tx, ... or does the water keep it all temperate.. |
| 21:29.12 | prpplague | richardw: it stays around 88F but the humidity is high |
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| 22:12.54 | tsowell | ~date |
| 22:12.55 | jbot | Tue Jun 14 22:12:55 2005 |
| 22:15.18 | TimRiker | 300 miles is very close from a texas perspective. ;-) |
| 22:18.50 | TheCollector | 300 miles? bah, that's just the drive from Houston to Dallas |
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| 23:36.50 | gram | pmw: still there? |
| 23:37.26 | gram | Wingnut: what testing needs to be done for the live cd? |
| 23:38.13 | Wingnut | 2.4 touchpad and keypad |
| 23:38.20 | Wingnut | and run through the demo scripts |
| 23:39.40 | Wingnut | I'll send them to you in just a min |
| 23:39.44 | gram | thanks |
| 23:46.13 | Wingnut | you can also find the environments on the underbox, that may be an easier way of testing (either VNC in or use my desk) |
| 23:50.40 | gram | ok |