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| 04:12.00 | tlwoerner | zeddii: if i want to "build up" a kernel config using config fragments but starting with a relatively empty kernel, is there a path for doing this? |
| 04:12.52 | tlwoerner | zeddii: currently i'm starting with the in-kernel "defconfig", which is massive, and creating a fragment to "turn off all platforms" then a fragment to "turn on the one i want" |
| 04:13.21 | tlwoerner | doing this for networking, audio, usb, ⦠is getting tedius :-/ |
| 04:14.54 | zeddii | yah. there's a few things to do. I was just about to call it quits after an annoying day fighting with both my infrastructure and perf reproducibility fixes. I can follow up with you tomorrow during the day to get a better understanding. |
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| 12:21.22 | marex | JaMa: thanks |
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| 17:40.00 | leon-anavi | A couple of weeks ago submitted a patch for meta-python2 to support some legacy code and systems but it never got picked in master-next. Any chance to add it? |
| 17:40.01 | leon-anavi | https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-devel/message/89728?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Created,,meta-python2,20,2,0,80884272 |
| 17:48.14 | smurray | leon-anavi: I think that's a JaMa question, last few commits since moto-timo stepped down as maintainer of it seem to be from him |
| 17:49.14 | smurray | leon-anavi: adding a new module at this point might be less appealing. Plus Kodi 19 switched to python3, I thought... |
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| 18:43.07 | tlwoerner | zeddii: hey, let me know if you feel like taking a poke at something other than infrastructure and perf ;-) |
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| 19:11.28 | armpit | tlwoerner, he should try poking a bear |
| 19:26.21 | tlwoerner | lol |
| 19:30.45 | tlwoerner | armpit: actually the questions i have for zeddii are a result of my trying to make my BSP layer as nice as yours (i.e. using kernel config fragments and scc files etc) |
| 19:57.58 | zeddii | tlwoerner: here |
| 19:59.08 | tlwoerner | currently my BSP layer is using the in-kernel multi-defconfig for configuration |
| 19:59.24 | tlwoerner | zeddii: this works just fine, the boards all boot, not a problem |
| 20:00.21 | tlwoerner | however⦠the resulting kernel is 11MB in size and including everything *and* the kitchen sink. every conceivable platform is enabled, and a vast number of drivers that could never be needed |
| 20:00.51 | tlwoerner | zeddii: i was thinking of using kernel fragments to trim down the config and, ideally, customize them for each board |
| 20:01.17 | tlwoerner | but creating the fragments to turn off vast swaths of kernel config is getting tedious |
| 20:01.53 | zeddii | nods. tearing down is harder than building up. |
| 20:02.00 | tlwoerner | i was wondering if you had a recommendation for a way of starting with a very small, minimal, config (and then adding to it)? |
| 20:02.15 | tlwoerner | is there a "make smallconfig" or something? |
| 20:03.44 | tlwoerner | also, is the ordering of the fragments significant? i was thinking of spreading the fragments out between various config files in the BSP layer |
| 20:04.01 | zeddii | I have a script that has bit rotted a bit that can take a defconfig and yank out fragements from it. That in theory, can then be applied on top of a allnoconfig and you'll get a small, but booting config. |
| 20:04.12 | zeddii | let me go and find that script and see what it looks like. |
| 20:04.28 | zeddii | the ordering does matter, in the sense that the last fragment will set the value. |
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| 20:21.18 | tlwoerner | zeddii: interesting. how does the script work? i'm guessing it's more than just grepping for a CONFIGF_ value? |
| 20:21.28 | tlwoerner | s/CONFIGF_/CONFIG_ |
| 20:26.11 | JaMa | leon-anavi: I've just overlooked it, but adding new module and in older version than what is already there (recipes-devtools/python/python-pygobject_3.34.0.bb) is indeed less appealing (if LibreELEC settings is the only user which needs that, then I would leave it in the layer with this add-on) |
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| 20:31.17 | leon-anavi | JaMa, it is up to you. version 2.28.7 is without GI because of this in my opinion it makes sense to have it for backward compatibility. Anyway python2 is OEL and meta-python2 is kept for backward compatibility so I think another version of python-pygobject in there won't hurt anyone. I guess Kodi 18 plugins and older are not the only use cases. |
| 20:33.48 | zeddii | tlwoerner: yah. it runs some iterative configuration runs of the kernel and looks for what you do/don't need. I'm sure i can make it better now, so I'm trying to wrap my head around it at the moment. |
| 20:35.43 | tlwoerner | zeddii: or you could make it available to me and i'll take a look? i really appreciate the advise, but i don't want to keep you from other things. |
| 20:35.45 | leon-anavi | *sorry EOL (on OEL) :) |
| 20:35.50 | leon-anavi | not |
| 20:36.25 | leon-anavi | oh man, I am making a typo on every line :) |
| 20:36.36 | tlwoerner | my other thought is to do a menuconfig and disable all the drivers, platforms, and other non-core things manually, turn that into a defconfig, and build from there |
| 20:42.26 | zeddii | That can work as well. The problem is that my script is using my old audit output, I need to tweak it a bit at least. I'll try for a bit, and if not, I can explain/writeup what it is doing. |
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| 20:56.19 | JaMa | leon-anavi: won't hurt except me to maintain it :) I have also volunteered to maintain only python-native and possibly move it to separate layer while letting the rest rot away (as python-native is still unfortunately used by many projects during build like chromium etc) |
| 21:05.59 | JaMa | leon-anavi: if it's needed by other projects, then where they were getting it since 2016 when this older version was removed from oe-core? https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=12d61ac95b6bfae60dd4a7c7239bc8b8b0bcafbb |
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