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| 17:24.39 | drag0nius | guys how to enter more than one name in Search UI? |
| 17:24.54 | drag0nius | tried to use all those ands ors / etc but nothing seems to work |
| 17:25.19 | drag0nius | i basically want to exclude Peacebloom/Silverleaf/Earthroot from search |
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| 20:08.29 | Zolan | I actually have a question similar to drag0nius. I keep my search set to regex but I can't seem to do any sort of even simple regex like '(Heavy|Thick) Leather' I haven't delved into the code at all to see what is happening there but perhaps one of you knows off the top of your head? |
| 20:08.51 | Zolan | Perhaps I need to escape the parens? |
| 20:24.57 | Kandoko | Zolan: Its not regex, but luas pattern matching. witch is simplistic and does not support the or option |
| 20:25.12 | Kandoko | http://www.wowpedia.org/Pattern_matching |
| 20:38.42 | Zolan | Thanks Kandoko! |
| 20:40.20 | Kandoko | I was playing around at trying to fake one ie heavy leather|rugged leather |
| 20:40.30 | Kandoko | so so results thou |
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| 22:05.47 | SinusPi | Hello and greetings. Is there a known workaround for the Gatherer HUD sometimes not updating for almost a minute, then just starting working as if nothing happened? |
| 22:07.19 | Nechckn | Have not seen anything like that - perhaps try lowering the number of items displayed |
| 22:07.48 | SinusPi | It can't really be that - it doesn't lower my framerate significantly, and when it "wakes up" it resumes normal display. |
| 22:08.05 | SinusPi | It rotates, but doesn't recognize my movement - until it finally does and everything starts working fine. |
| 22:08.24 | SinusPi | I tinkered with it a bit, managing to actually put node detection blips in it, but I fear I broke something ;P |
| 22:10.03 | Nechckn | Would look to those changes, then - Have not had any other reports of issues, especially something like that we would have surely heard a never-ending stream of 'em. |
| 22:10.18 | SinusPi | Can't be the number of nodes, as it right now "fell asleep" in the middle of Deepholm in which I have a total of maybe 20 herbs scouted. |
| 22:11.08 | SinusPi | That's why I wondered if it has some special bandwidth-throttling routine that would behave like that, me accidentally triggering it. |
| 22:11.42 | SinusPi | I mean, it rotates, smooth and fine, just doesn't notice my movement - until one moment it updates and shows all surrounding nodes as usual. |
| 22:14.08 | Nechckn | Well, in order to show the blips, you are running against a bunch of changes specifically put in place to disallow such functionality, so it is not surprising. |
| 22:14.42 | Nechckn | On the Blizz end, that is - they have been pretty clear about it that it is something they do not like/want. |
| 22:16.43 | SinusPi | Disallow which functionality, you mean..? All I did was clone the minimap and make the tracking dots blink, which of this would attract Blizz attention, you mean..? O.o |
| 22:28.19 | SinusPi | Then I simply overlaid Gatherer on top of that, adding some maths to the gatherer node positioning so that they properly match the minimap scale but keep their "long range" outside it... Does this violate something? O.o |
| 22:33.27 | Nechckn | All depends on exactly how, really. If you look on the main WoW forums, there are a number of items where displaying the "active nodes" in another area has been disallowed - it does not necesarily sound bad, with how you did it, but there is a reason why we have never gone down that path. =) |
| 22:34.14 | SinusPi | In another area?? I can't even begin to imagine how that would be done... |
| 22:34.15 | SinusPi | But, getting distracted here - my question remains: what might cause Gatherer-HUD to stop updating the player location? It keeps displaying the nodes, keeps rotating as I turn, minimap icons (regular Gatherer) work as usual - just that Gatherer-HUD thinks I have not moved from the spot in which I was a minute or two ago... |
| 22:35.09 | SinusPi | (Unless you mean "elsewhere on the screen, rather than the top-right corner"; but then again that would mean disallowing moving or resizing the minimap) |
| 22:35.15 | SinusPi | (searching forums now) |
| 22:36.04 | SinusPi | ((before, I just kept putting Gatherer_HUD around the minimap itself, and it worked just fine there - just wasn't very handy ;P) |
| 22:36.07 | Nechckn | The actual yellow dot aka "This node is active" - and how you determine whether it is active or not - if you just move the minimap, it should not be any big deal - but something to be aware of. |
| 22:36.20 | SinusPi | I don't determine that, either. |
| 22:36.46 | Nechckn | Thought you made them blink if they were active? |
| 22:36.55 | SinusPi | I just created a clone of the minimap, did :SetAlpha(0.1) on it so that the terrain fades and node blips remain, and overlaid G_HUD on top of that |
| 22:36.59 | Nechckn | unless not understandign what you mean |
| 22:37.07 | SinusPi | No, I made the default Blizzard yellow dots blink. |
| 22:37.20 | Nechckn | Ohh... much different |
| 22:37.26 | SinusPi | By changing the minimap blips texture file several times per second. |
| 22:37.30 | Kandoko | Nechckn: there is also a texture API that can be used to make icons blink. including nodes |
| 22:37.55 | Nechckn | Yeah, but not in the HUD itself - I know from the map you can and think carbonite does |
| 22:38.01 | Kandoko | Its not getting around anything since it dosnt know if they are there or not just changing textures in a timer |
| 22:38.36 | Kandoko | Carb steathes out the minimap to provide dots in combined mode. Sounds similair to what he's doing |
| 22:38.39 | Nechckn | Thought he meant that he was having the HUD itself show which node was active at a given time- different thing. |
| 22:39.04 | SinusPi | Well the result is almost that ;P |
| 22:39.46 | SinusPi | when HUD is overlaid on top of a minimap like that, and has node positions corrected so that they perfectly match the minimap nodes, the result is that Blizzard dots start showing on top of Gatherer nodes. |
| 22:40.54 | SinusPi | I'd non-humbly say that's the coolest a HUD can get, even at the obvious cost of the ability to apply perspective to it. ;P |
| 22:42.21 | SinusPi | ... if only HUD didn't fall asleep on me all the time :/ |
| 22:42.35 | Nechckn | As to the actual internals, Esamynn|Away may be able to point out where to look, SinusPi |
| 22:42.59 | Nechckn | Or some idea of what could need adjusting elsewhere |
| 22:42.59 | SinusPi | I shall wait until they become available, then. |
| 22:43.55 | SinusPi | Please forgive my overexcitation, but the fact that the maths fit in properly to make HUD "lens" around the minimap's tracking area made my day. ;P |
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| 23:55.06 | SinusPi | Actually, I may have solved the issue; apparently, if minimum minimap node distance is set too low, Gatherer stops updating its nodes' locations - and HUD is left in the dark. |
| 23:55.50 | SinusPi | There is nothing to display on the minimap, so that might be a valid optimization move, but HUD shows nodes far further than that - and these are no longer updated, until the player is again in the vicinity of one. |
| 23:56.34 | SinusPi | Might just be a wild guess, but I have now set my minimap node range from 150yd to 1000yd and haven't seen one HUD lockup since. |