| 00:01.00 | mascondante | cool |
| 00:01.13 | Weltmeister | I'm hoping someone...someone named mascondante...will take over maintenance of it :) |
| 00:01.44 | mascondante | the secret is out :-o |
| 00:02.47 | mascondante | well I still can't figure out how to get a dang hardware event to work properly so definitely still in the learning stage, but I'm learning other things as I research |
| 00:03.01 | Weltmeister | secret's not really out, but having it in svn will make it easier (it is mentioned in some forum posts, but nobody reads the forums lol) |
| 00:04.10 | mascondante | to include me but I'll take a peak |
| 00:08.22 | mascondante | hmm my forum account doesn't exist anymore x_x |
| 00:11.38 | mascondante | or I thought I made one and didn't but firefox had my username/password saved so... well anyway I've made a new account. |
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| 00:23.10 | MattBnr3 | i think Weltmeister shoudl write upa detailed guide for using glypher/glypher post |
| 00:23.18 | MattBnr3 | :) |
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| 00:31.33 | Weltmeister | documentation isn't my forte, but I hear this Matt guy that hangs out here is good at it |
| 00:31.38 | MattBnr3 | lol |
| 00:34.23 | Weltmeister | that is when he's not busy breaking things ;) |
| 00:34.31 | MattBnr3 | i go with what im good at |
| 00:34.46 | MattBnr3 | ive only written 1 guide so far and taht was the searchui basics guide on the wiki |
| 00:35.19 | Weltmeister | you also wrote the wiki for Glypher |
| 00:36.09 | MattBnr3 | ohyeah |
| 00:36.13 | MattBnr3 | forgot about that |
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| 02:12.29 | Weltmeister | hello Mat_0084 |
| 02:12.46 | Mat_0084 | Hello |
| 02:12.58 | Weltmeister | you are Matricide, right? |
| 02:13.08 | Mat_0084 | yes |
| 02:14.09 | Weltmeister | so Glypher is stopping at 33% on get profitable? |
| 02:15.06 | Mat_0084 | yeah, i redownloaded lil' sparkeys, and it did the same thing as with normal skillet (i auto updated) |
| 02:15.49 | Mat_0084 | and it just stops at 33%, no error report, just quits processing |
| 02:16.08 | Weltmeister | ok, and no error messages in the chat frame or in Swatter? (check to see if Swatter is enabled...you can check in-game by typing "/run foo()" |
| 02:16.51 | Mat_0084 | Swatter is enabled, however, nothing comes of /run foo() |
| 02:17.17 | Weltmeister | ./run foo() is just to cause Swatter to catch an error (foo being a function that doesn't exist) |
| 02:17.37 | Mat_0084 | so, i need to run it while my glypher is at 33%? |
| 02:17.42 | Weltmeister | no |
| 02:17.42 | Mat_0084 | trying... |
| 02:17.45 | Mat_0084 | oh |
| 02:18.18 | Weltmeister | at 33% or thereabouts, Glypher has probably just hit the first glyph in your skillbook (I'm guessing you haven't learned all glyphs, otherwise it might be 16-24%) |
| 02:18.24 | MattBnr3 | ive never had glypher stop |
| 02:18.37 | MattBnr3 | what is your skill level |
| 02:18.49 | Weltmeister | is the toon you're doing it on your scribe? |
| 02:18.49 | Mat_0084 | 450 |
| 02:18.56 | Mat_0084 | yes |
| 02:19.24 | MattBnr3 | and you just did a full ah scan? |
| 02:19.27 | Mat_0084 | and i haven't learned all my glyphs |
| 02:19.28 | Mat_0084 | yes |
| 02:19.50 | MattBnr3 | i havent learned all of them either im still doing northrend reearch |
| 02:19.54 | Weltmeister | you have only Skillet and not ATSW installed, right? |
| 02:20.02 | MattBnr3 | are you getting any errors at all wehn you login ? |
| 02:20.47 | Mat_0084 | i have both installed, i prefer ASTW on my main, but i have it disabled for my insc., and no errors |
| 02:21.08 | Weltmeister | ok...hmmm |
| 02:21.33 | Nechckn | At the chat/command line enter the following /swat show what happens? |
| 02:21.47 | Weltmeister | I remember this was a problem (stopping when hitting the first glyph) - checking the forums to refresh my ancient memory |
| 02:22.10 | Mat_0084 | it's not a command |
| 02:22.35 | Nechckn | Okay, then you do not have Swatter enabled |
| 02:22.37 | MattBnr3 | if you do /swat shwo it should pop up the swatter window |
| 02:22.42 | Nechckn | at least on your current character |
| 02:23.04 | Nechckn | Log out to the main WoW Character selection screen, click "Addons" and ensure that Swatter has a gold check in the box |
| 02:23.10 | MattBnr3 | how about this- do /run foo() and paste the results at our pastey |
| 02:23.31 | Nechckn | he tried that and nothing was generated. |
| 02:23.32 | Mat_0084 | i'm /rl right now, however, my ACP says i have swatter enabled |
| 02:23.53 | Nechckn | That, coupled with command unknown == Swatter not loaded. |
| 02:23.53 | MattBnr3 | acp can be misleading |
| 02:24.19 | Nechckn | It works, but there could be other errors causing issue before it takes over. |
| 02:25.10 | MattBnr3 | the main problem ive found with disabling certain addons is that it will disable them on all my char rather then jsut the one chat |
| 02:25.18 | Nechckn | Anywhoo.. off for now, will leave you with those tidbits and Weltmeister to track down the issue. Best of luck! |
| 02:25.38 | Weltmeister | thanks :) |
| 02:25.59 | Mat_0084 | i disabled buggrabber, and now /swatter show works, it's saying i have a problem with doubblewide and sexymap |
| 02:26.22 | MattBnr3 | doublewide isnt needed anymore |
| 02:26.32 | MattBnr3 | its part of the default ui now |
| 02:26.32 | Weltmeister | those shouldn't cause problems with glypher - try get profitable to see if you get an error |
| 02:26.48 | Mat_0084 | ok 1 sec |
| 02:26.56 | MattBnr3 | http://norganna.pastey.net if you get a a swatter error you can paste it there |
| 02:27.46 | Mat_0084 | i'm running a scan rq |
| 02:30.02 | Mat_0084 | ok, 2 errors now, 1 with Ace2, and the other with auc, i'm trying to copy it atm |
| 02:30.51 | Mat_0084 | do you guys run a different version of Auc |
| 02:30.55 | MattBnr3 | ace2? do they still use that? i thought everything updated to ace3 |
| 02:31.02 | MattBnr3 | i run from the svn yes |
| 02:31.07 | MattBnr3 | what version are you using |
| 02:31.11 | Mat_0084 | some of my addons are from BC >.< |
| 02:31.13 | Weltmeister | but glypher should work with the latest release of auc |
| 02:31.28 | Mat_0084 | well, i might have auto-updated through curse |
| 02:31.42 | Mat_0084 | becuase this worked for me a week ago. |
| 02:31.45 | MattBnr3 | if your running addosn that old id update them man |
| 02:32.02 | Weltmeister | glypher should complain loudly if the version of auctioneer is too old |
| 02:32.28 | MattBnr3 | your in game correct? |
| 02:32.35 | Mat_0084 | no, like the Ace2, it's been there for years |
| 02:32.41 | MattBnr3 | can you do /run foo() and paste the results at the pastey link? |
| 02:32.44 | Mat_0084 | yes and i'm posting the error message now |
| 02:32.47 | MattBnr3 | ok |
| 02:33.30 | Mat_0084 | language = none, author=me? |
| 02:33.53 | MattBnr3 | just paste it and hit paste |
| 02:34.00 | MattBnr3 | then copy the link and paste that back here |
| 02:34.15 | Mat_0084 | http://norganna.pastey.net/131545 |
| 02:34.18 | MattBnr3 | other stuff dont matter |
| 02:34.22 | Mat_0084 | word |
| 02:34.34 | MattBnr3 | ok you dont ahve beancounter enabled looks like |
| 02:35.18 | MattBnr3 | you need beancounter to glypher work |
| 02:35.25 | Mat_0084 | >.< |
| 02:35.53 | Mat_0084 | i don't remember disabling it. let me see if it's working now |
| 02:38.12 | Mat_0084 | it's working =\ i feel like a tard |
| 02:38.33 | MattBnr3 | no problem. |
| 02:38.34 | Mat_0084 | ty for helping |
| 02:38.39 | Weltmeister | no worries - see why I asked you to come here? |
| 02:38.41 | MattBnr3 | np |
| 02:38.50 | MattBnr3 | you can get rid of doueble wide its not needed anymore |
| 02:38.56 | MattBnr3 | get rid of one of your errors at least |
| 02:39.07 | MattBnr3 | make sure all your others are fully up to date |
| 02:39.14 | Mat_0084 | lol =D thx again, i'll bounce from your channel and leave you guys alone, and i will glad to know now |
| 02:39.25 | MattBnr3 | np happy hunting |
| 02:39.33 | Mat_0084 | i use wowmatrix, that's why i had to get redo skillet |
| 02:39.41 | MattBnr3 | yuck |
| 02:39.44 | Mat_0084 | =( |
| 02:39.55 | MattBnr3 | wowmatrix= fail |
| 02:39.56 | Weltmeister | Mat_0084 is the one I'm turning my business over to on my server |
| 02:39.57 | Mat_0084 | aight i'll get curse =\ |
| 02:40.04 | MattBnr3 | cure or wowinterface is the only way to update |
| 02:41.02 | Mat_0084 | thanks again, i might have another tard moment and need assistance again! |
| 02:41.07 | Mat_0084 | bye =D |
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| 11:18.19 | ^nbot | New Feature 03ADUP-11 10Maniac302: Searching for market opportunity06* (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADUP-11 10 |
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| 14:26.44 | Leifarn | Welt? |
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| 16:40.18 | Praetorius | Hi |
| 16:42.25 | Praetorius | Anyone here? |
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| 16:59.54 | zujnbhgtr | http://www.pandamailer.de/?bettel=pimbolli |
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| 17:58.20 | Riorick17 | does market price treat my auctions like any other auction to do its calculations? I'm trying to think of a way to fix my prices which have been massively poisoned to the point I might as well start over (?) I was thinking if I /auc clear [item link], set outlier seen count to 1, post my item at (what I consider) a reasonable price, then do a scan... i can at least have a starting point |
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| 18:18.45 | Adhara | I'm having a weird bug with Gatherer. anyone know if there's an ETA for the next version? |
| 18:20.38 | Adhara | Gatherer still works just fine, but for some reason, if I open the world map with Gatherer loaded, I don't see the little yellow ping centered on my location |
| 18:21.10 | Adhara | it also happens to my brother, who also uses Gatherer, but we both use Macs and I haven't tested to see if this happens on Windows |
| 18:21.35 | Adhara | anyone else have this issue? |
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| 18:35.01 | Adhara | should I be submitting a bug report instead? I didn't see an e-mail address or contact information on the website2026 |
| 18:40.46 | Riorick17 | I think talking to someone here is your best bet...just a matter of time before one of the techies comes along |
| 18:43.53 | Adhara | OK |
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| 18:57.45 | leifarn | weltmeister? :) |
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| 19:04.04 | Adhara | any techies on? |
| 19:07.08 | Weltmeister | leifarn, hello |
| 19:07.25 | Weltmeister | welcome Adhara - feel free to ask :) |
| 19:08.29 | Weltmeister | I see from before it was an issue with Gatherer - I don't work with it, but maybe someone else will have an answer for you; if not, you can try posting on the forums ( http://forums.norganna.org/ ) |
| 19:21.33 | Riorick17 | correction, I don't have to do a complete scan..simply browsing the item will set market price |
| 19:47.53 | Adhara | somebody's working on a version of Gatherer for WoW 3.3, right? |
| 19:48.04 | Grum | why? doesnt it work? |
| 19:55.19 | Adhara | there's a weird bug |
| 19:55.47 | Adhara | Gatherer works fine, but if I have it enabled, I get no little yellow ping on my character's position when I open the world map |
| 19:56.16 | Adhara | I've determined it's ONLY with Gatherer enabled, and one of my brothers has the same problem. We both play WoW on Macs. I don't know if this happens on Windows. |
| 20:00.18 | Grum | why would you ever get a ping on the map? O.o |
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| 20:00.32 | Adhara | it's always done that |
| 20:00.38 | Grum | mmmmyeah you are right it does indeed hehe |
| 20:00.41 | Grum | never even noticed it |
| 20:00.43 | Adhara | you open your world map and there's a little ping to draw your eye to the arrow that shows your position |
| 20:01.30 | Adhara | are you playing WoW under Windows, do you have Gatherer enabled, and do you have the map-ping when you hit M? |
| 20:01.52 | Grum | nah i dislike gatherer :) |
| 20:02.19 | leifarn | Well, weltmeister. isnt it smart to add minstock if i do this so i never have less then 5 glyphs? |
| 20:02.33 | leifarn | else i got no glyphs to post, the only glyphs i have is the one that have been undercutted |
| 20:07.47 | Riorick17 | I don't get no ping |
| 20:09.07 | Weltmeister | min stock would be good, leifarn, the (somewhat hidden) hardminstock may or may not be needed (I don't turn it on myself, because I'd prefer to run out of glyphs that are selling very, very slowly) |
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| 22:17.04 | Riorick17 | it doesn't appear that auctioneer updates the market price of identical items with different stats |
| 22:19.43 | mattbnr | why do you say that? |
| 22:21.34 | Riorick17 | i did /auc clear [item link] because the market price was wacked..then rescanned and the tooltip says not available on one item but shows up on the other |
| 22:25.07 | mattbnr | it takes more then 1 scan to get a market price for a item |
| 22:34.10 | ccox | "of the bear", "of the eagle" are kept as different items |
| 22:34.26 | ccox | yes, if they have different stats, they also have different item info, and different prices |
| 22:34.59 | kdtresh | and occasionally "of the bear" or whatnot can have multiple versions |
| 22:35.09 | kdtresh | with slightly different values of the same stats |
| 22:35.16 | Riorick17 | its the same "of the" , just different stats |
| 22:35.45 | mascondante | ~trout mattbnr |
| 22:35.46 | purl | ACTION slaps mattbnr around a bit with a large trout! |
| 22:36.20 | mattbnr | different stats= different itme all together |
| 22:36.29 | mattbnr | s/itme/item |
| 22:38.34 | Riorick17 | well, it only has one link though so I cant reset based on stats, just item link |
| 22:40.36 | kdtresh | both versions will have separate links |
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| 22:46.55 | Riorick17 | well, my market prices are wacked...I need a way to reset them or I'll have to start from scratch |
| 22:50.54 | mattbnr | only way is to do the /auc clear itemlink or jsut wipe your SV data. |
| 22:51.10 | mattbnr | takes like a week to build up a decent database now so |
| 22:54.24 | Riorick17 | i need a starting point for outlier or I will just get poisoned again |
| 22:54.30 | mattbnr | anytime my prices get whck i jsut start over. no biggy to scan 2x a day for a week |
| 22:55.13 | mattbnr | no outlier adjsuts automatically when you scan. if you see a item posted at 100g for the ifrst time it doesnt use that it has to see the same prices before it gives it a market value |
| 22:55.33 | mattbnr | so 100g 50g 50g 50g 50g 50g 50 60g 70g it will give it a 50g value |
| 22:57.54 | Riorick17 | http://majiksunshine.com/images/AuctioneerTooltip1.jpg |
| 22:59.18 | mattbnr | ok looks about right to me |
| 23:00.05 | Riorick17 | no, outlier should have filtered out the 200 g's..but the seen count was set too high so it passed through the first 10 it say |
| 23:00.09 | Riorick17 | saw |
| 23:01.14 | mattbnr | debug is seprerate from market price if i remember correct its mainly for the devs information |
| 23:01.41 | mattbnr | jsut using the simple prices and doing simple math i came up with a average price of 64g for that item |
| 23:02.14 | Riorick17 | so its about 60g wacked then... |
| 23:02.39 | mattbnr | why is that? |
| 23:03.30 | mattbnr | if its messed up to someone posting too high clear it out |
| 23:03.36 | mattbnr | what are your outlier settings |
| 23:04.17 | Riorick17 | now outlier is %175 with seen 1 |
| 23:05.30 | mattbnr | hmm |
| 23:05.40 | mattbnr | that coudl mess up your prices too |
| 23:05.49 | mattbnr | your filtering everything after the first time you see it |
| 23:06.06 | mattbnr | so if its posted at 1000g the first time then anything other then taht will get filtered. |
| 23:06.22 | mattbnr | let me see if i can find a dev that underrstands the workings of outlier |
| 23:06.35 | Riorick17 | then i will have to reset it again |
| 23:06.57 | mattbnr | i use the default values for outlier and i ahve no price problems at all |
| 23:08.13 | Riorick17 | you are probably not getting a mass of poison posts then |
| 23:08.38 | mattbnr | well i scan 10 times a day too so i have a mass of info to go off of |
| 23:08.53 | Weltmeister | you can ignore by user if you know the names of the poisoners |
| 23:09.09 | Riorick17 | but I just installed this addon, i have to get a foothold somehow...or just use fixed prices |
| 23:09.23 | mattbnr | how long ahve you been scanning? |
| 23:09.51 | Riorick17 | if I knew their name before they made the post yeh |
| 23:10.16 | Riorick17 | less than a month |
| 23:10.31 | mattbnr | and how often do you scan? |
| 23:10.48 | Riorick17 | at least twice a day |
| 23:11.03 | mattbnr | are you in game right now? |
| 23:11.08 | Riorick17 | yeh |
| 23:11.54 | mattbnr | can you do /run foo() and go to http://norganna.pastey.net and paste the results |
| 23:15.34 | Riorick17 | you need the link ? |
| 23:15.42 | Weltmeister | yes |
| 23:15.46 | mattbnr | i got it |
| 23:15.52 | mattbnr | http://norganna.pastey.net/131591 |
| 23:16.09 | mattbnr | i see your running a dev version |
| 23:16.17 | Riorick17 | of course |
| 23:16.26 | Riorick17 | doesn't everyone ? |
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| 23:17.43 | Weltmeister | am I seeing a bunch of 5.1's in there? or am I just not awake yet? |
| 23:18.10 | mattbnr | dev versions are all 5.1 for some reason |
| 23:18.15 | Weltmeister | ah ok |
| 23:18.25 | Weltmeister | I'm not in game so I couldn't check mine |
| 23:18.30 | mattbnr | let me post mine |
| 23:18.44 | mattbnr | http://norganna.pastey.net/131592 |
| 23:18.59 | Weltmeister | ah I see |
| 23:20.45 | mattbnr | bry said he was gonan work on the version stuff when he gets time |
| 23:34.46 | mattbnr | im getting tired of these wow application has encountered a critical error bullshit |
| 23:34.55 | mattbnr | memory coudl not be read |
| 23:35.00 | mattbnr | blah bah every time i log out |
| 23:35.46 | Riorick17 | you can log out of wow ? |
| 23:36.07 | mattbnr | yeah i get it everytime i log out of wow its getting annoying |
| 23:38.07 | mattbnr | maybe its the dirt ill clean my pc see fi that helps. |
| 23:38.49 | Riorick17 | never clean your pc, it won't work without dirt |
| 23:39.03 | mattbnr | lol |
| 23:39.06 | razoruk` | yeah, you should keep your PC outside underneath some manure |
| 23:39.19 | mattbnr | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=108323600&sid=1 |
| 23:39.28 | mattbnr | yep dirt ok off to clean my pc heatsinks woot |
| 23:39.32 | mattbnr | late rall |
| 23:40.30 | razoruk` | people like that, should just give them LinX and make their computer explode, errors like that are usually overheating ones thesedays anyway |
