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| 00:56.50 | CIA-38 | auctioneer: 03Kandoko * r4605 10BeanCounter/BeanCounterMail.lua: Continues [BCNT-289] tweaks function hook workaround to try and avoid coroutine error. |
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| 05:18.11 | zero | hey i need some help |
| 05:18.56 | Guest17533 | can some one help me |
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| 09:08.23 | wakatake | hi |
| 09:08.29 | wakatake | is it possible to do auto buyouts? |
| 09:19.31 | wakatake | hmm anyone?? |
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| 09:51.59 | Nechckn | wakatake nope, no way. |
| 09:52.18 | Nechckn | There sort of was in 1.x but that was completely disabled by Blizzard. |
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| 15:52.38 | Zas | Do users not get timed out on this server? |
| 15:52.58 | Zas | I apear to still be on from over a weekago when my PC crashed! I can't get my username back! LOL |
| 15:54.30 | Zas | Hum... I reply to pings aswel! |
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| 16:46.46 | mascondante | you know how to boot your other self, right? |
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| 17:27.22 | Mike | morning everyone |
| 17:27.55 | Guest37995 | is anyone here |
| 17:34.13 | Guest37995 | hello |
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| 17:39.32 | Guest37995 | hello |
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| 18:05.57 | Weltmeister | hello Guest37995 |
| 18:10.13 | Guest37995 | i am looking for some help |
| 18:13.56 | Guest37995 | hello |
| 18:26.05 | Guest37995 | hello |
| 18:30.23 | kdtresh | hello |
| 18:30.24 | Guest37995 | welt are you there |
| 18:30.37 | kdtresh | if you have a question, just ask, someone will get to it eventually if you're patient ;) |
| 18:31.16 | Guest37995 | im having a scan issue |
| 18:32.21 | kdtresh | gonna need more than that, i'm afraid |
| 18:32.49 | kdtresh | are you getting an error? |
| 18:33.37 | Guest37995 | when i run my scan it iwll get to the begining of stage 2 then lock up in game, then O have to relog in |
| 18:34.06 | Guest37995 | ne error |
| 18:34.06 | kdtresh | does it disconnect you or just freeze? |
| 18:34.11 | Guest37995 | freeses |
| 18:34.17 | Guest37995 | err freezes |
| 18:36.07 | Guest37995 | thats using the fast getall scan |
| 18:36.19 | kdtresh | how long have you left it to process before killing wow and restarting it? |
| 18:36.40 | Guest37995 | tried a full scan and it scans everythomg but never finishes |
| 18:36.51 | Guest37995 | several minutes |
| 18:37.13 | Guest37995 | this just started |
| 18:38.46 | kdtresh | and your whole screen is frozen, nobody running around in the background, can't open anything in wow? |
| 18:38.59 | Guest37995 | that is correct |
| 18:40.12 | kdtresh | http://wiki.norganna.org/AucAdvanced/FAQ#q6_what_is_the_snapshot_and_or_auc_scandata_and_how_and_why_would_i_clear_it_ |
| 18:40.20 | kdtresh | i'd say give that a shot and see if it resolves your issue |
| 18:40.47 | kdtresh | clearing your scandata will not remove your stored statistical data |
| 18:41.12 | kdtresh | just the most recent snapshot, which should repopulate the next time you scan |
| 18:41.36 | Guest37995 | saw someone had posted about it but I didnt see they ever got an answer |
| 18:42.32 | kdtresh | i'd give it a shot clearing the snapshot/scandata |
| 18:45.05 | kdtresh | if you still need help, ask again in here and remember to be patient |
| 18:46.20 | Guest37995 | ok thank you |
| 18:46.25 | kdtresh | np, good luck ;) |
| 18:46.38 | Guest37995 | i dont visit here very often |
| 18:46.51 | Guest37995 | i sun the nil line I am trying it now |
| 18:47.06 | Guest37995 | now I got an error |
| 18:47.11 | kdtresh | if you did the in-game command, you have to reload first |
| 18:47.16 | kdtresh | as the instructions stated |
| 18:47.28 | kdtresh | From in-game, you can type the following into the chat line, exactly as written, but without the quotes (note the mixed capitalization): "/run AucScanData.scans=nil". Then reload your interface, or log out and then back in again. |
| 18:47.52 | Guest37995 | Doh reloas ui |
| 18:47.59 | Guest37995 | I cant read either |
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| 19:58.17 | ^nbot | New Feature 03ASER-258 10dinesh: Allow snatch prices to by dynamically based on the price of other items06* (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-258 10 |
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| 22:22.17 | jpmorgan | any news on the crashing problem? |
| 22:22.57 | mattbnr | crashing? |
| 22:43.56 | mascondante | jpmorgan: You speaking of this?: [18:39:14] <^nbot> Bug BCNT-289 Kandoko: Add co-routine to mail header retrieval in hopes of working around Blizzards mail crash bug. (In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-289 Kandoko: Personally have never been able to reproduce the issue. B... |
| 22:44.45 | mascondante | I remembered seeing that yesterday. beyond that I've not seen any chatter in chat about anything related to crashing. |
| 22:45.15 | jpmorgan | hmm i browsed the forum and i thought it looked like a few people reporting temp hangs or worse |
| 22:45.58 | jpmorgan | i have had trouble myself but i think its combo prob. my XP seems slightly wonky and if it corrupts a file, like beancounter's savedata, then later BC can lock up hard. til i stablize my machine i have put auctioneer on hold |
| 22:46.39 | mascondante | I used to have an issue of hangs scanning, it still hangs for a few seconds immediately following scan, but it either resumes or disconnects, not ever seen a crash. |
| 22:47.03 | jpmorgan | yah i was getting the brief pause while mousing over stuff before |
| 22:47.14 | jpmorgan | broker was freaking my machine out but a new BC fixed that |
| 22:47.22 | mattbnr | do you get these problems with only auctioneer installed? |
| 22:47.26 | jpmorgan | yes |
| 22:47.39 | jpmorgan | last situation was this. i could login w one of my alts |
| 22:47.44 | jpmorgan | i could open a bag |
| 22:47.50 | mattbnr | hmm ive not seen any of these problems |
| 22:48.01 | jpmorgan | as soon as i moused over any item, it just locked up hard. could tab out, ctrl-alt-del - nothing had to reset |
| 22:48.19 | jpmorgan | so finally i said, lets take down all the auctioneer addons and see if it persists. and it didn't i was fine |
| 22:48.35 | Nechckn | Most often that is a corrupt Scandata file |
| 22:48.37 | mattbnr | hmm sounds like a system problem |
| 22:48.44 | jpmorgan | reason i did this is because ive had similiar probs in the past. |
| 22:48.45 | mattbnr | yeah or a corrupt file is what i menat |
| 22:48.51 | Nechckn | if it hangs when you mouse-over an item |
| 22:48.58 | jpmorgan | yah like i said, when the save data gets hosed somehow. (unrelated crash). the BC starts crashing too |
| 22:49.23 | Nechckn | But... if you are having files becoming corrupt, then there is some other, systemic reason. Since it should be a once every few months happening, if ever. |
| 22:49.25 | mattbnr | do you crash alot? or have to alt f4 or force close your game alot? |
| 22:51.36 | jpmorgan | my machine has been solid as a rock until recently |
| 22:51.51 | jpmorgan | i have had some unexplained problems the last month or so |
| 22:51.59 | jpmorgan | im nearing the point where i will reinstall XP |
| 22:52.12 | jpmorgan | not looking forward to burning all that time tho |
| 22:52.35 | jpmorgan | the good news is a surface scan revealed no bad sectors so its not a partially dead HD hopefully |
| 22:52.53 | Nechckn | have you checked the memory, all drivers, et cetera? |
| 22:53.30 | jpmorgan | there are more diagnostics i could probably do. this machine is quite stable in that it doesnt change much |
| 22:53.34 | mattbnr | i use to crash when i had bad video drivers |
| 22:53.41 | jpmorgan | so new behaviour was not likely induced by adding new s/w or drivers or whatever |
| 22:54.11 | mattbnr | virus scan lately? |
| 22:54.16 | jpmorgan | yah |
| 22:54.25 | jpmorgan | nothing out of the ordinary afaik |
| 22:54.26 | mascondante | In my personal experience SystemMechanic Pro trial does a lot of the dirty work making further troubleshooting a lot easier after all the junk is cleared up. You might want to give it a try http://www.iolo.com/system-mechanic/pro/download.aspx You should only need to run it once and then just take care of your machine, so the trial thing wouldn't be a huge issue. |
| 22:54.44 | jpmorgan | worth a look i will check it out thx |
| 22:54.57 | mascondante | that's just my personal experience, I can't speak for anyone else |
| 22:55.43 | mattbnr | comboofix |
| 22:55.46 | jpmorgan | the problems im having w my machine really arent worth your time tho. the main thing norganna should worry about is this. if alot of people are reporting problems that go away when they dump auctioneer. its possible that you guys have found a bug in blizzards code, and thats where the hard crash is from. |
| 22:55.48 | mattbnr | greatest thing ever made |
| 22:56.01 | mascondante | and I'd suggest doing a chkdsk c: /f |
| 22:56.06 | mattbnr | then its a blizzard problem not ours |
| 22:56.16 | mattbnr | we cant fix bliz code |
| 22:56.26 | mascondante | chkdsk c: /f /r if you suspect physical corruption. |
| 22:56.26 | mattbnr | and they always blame addosns o its a round and round thing |
| 22:56.31 | SNiLD | bliz can't fix their code either if they don't know about the issue |
| 22:56.32 | jpmorgan | mas - http://www.dtidata.com/windowssurfacescanner/ reports no problems w disk surface scan |
| 22:56.59 | mattbnr | we shwo them a problem they say " uninstall the addon that is causing problems" we say that doesnt fix it but just makes theproblems go away |
| 22:57.07 | jpmorgan | i know u cant fix blizz code. but if a way can be found to avoid inducing the hard crash until they do, that would be good for keeping people from blaming auctioneer? |
| 22:57.33 | SNiLD | mattbnr: have you provided a proof-of-concept block of addon code? |
| 22:57.50 | mattbnr | i dont talk to bliz im sure nikk or mp or norgs does though |
| 22:57.53 | SNiLD | it's easier for the developers to fix if they can see what the real problem is |
| 22:58.08 | mascondante | jpmorgan: cool. I try to stay away from excessive third-party software usage, though. I've found it to in some cases make the problem worse. |
| 22:58.28 | SNiLD | instead of saying "addon xxx with 20000 lines of code is causing my system to hang when i do this and that with the addon..." |
| 22:58.42 | Nechckn | The main thing is that with over a million active users, we are no where near seeing anything that would point to a possible Blizz issue. |
| 22:58.46 | mattbnr | i suggest combofix it will reset your machien to almost defaulsts plus it scans for viruses, spyware, registry erros |
| 22:59.02 | jpmorgan | i was worried that a bad sector was sending my machine into space periodically but the drive seems ok |
| 22:59.03 | Nechckn | Other than for those running under Linux, which Blizz basically could care less about. |
| 22:59.14 | mascondante | mattbnr: that sounds pretty tasty. |
| 22:59.17 | mattbnr | http://www.combofix.org/ |
| 22:59.27 | Nechckn | could *not* care less about, rather... |
| 22:59.30 | mattbnr | http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/combofix/how-to-use-combofix |
| 22:59.45 | mascondante | I am a fan of AIO tools |
| 23:01.08 | jpmorgan | u want to hear a sad story. one of the crashes took my game wide prefs with it. so i knew was in trouble when i logged into to the EULA acceptance page |
| 23:01.11 | jpmorgan | and my ui was gone |
| 23:01.14 | jpmorgan | macros were gone |
| 23:01.16 | jpmorgan | etc |
| 23:01.19 | mattbnr | wow |
| 23:01.21 | jpmorgan | so.. i fixed what i could |
| 23:01.40 | jpmorgan | and then i listed some auction items with QA but i forgot to recofigure that addon |
| 23:01.45 | mascondante | Nechckn: true. You'd think blizzard would look at linux. If I wasn't so afraid of the pains of switching, I would. I've had duel boot set up but that's as far as I've cared to go. |
| 23:01.48 | Nechckn | http://wiki.norganna.org/Backup |
| 23:02.01 | jpmorgan | so i dumped my entire inventory of darkmoon cards at a loss of ~10k |
| 23:02.14 | jpmorgan | and wow admins wont help me undo my terribad mistake /wrists |
| 23:02.19 | Nechckn | ^^ wukk save you many, many headaches with any AddOn |
| 23:02.40 | Weltmeister | mascondante, WoW runs perfectly in Wine (other than the BC mail crash, but the latest BC seems to have worked around it) |
| 23:02.46 | jpmorgan | the good news im still up 100k so who cares :) |
| 23:04.03 | Nechckn | I think he means more of a native client where it would be more accessible, Weltmeister |
| 23:04.15 | Weltmeister | ah |
| 23:04.16 | Nechckn | As it is, it still is not user friendly to set up and run |
| 23:05.13 | Weltmeister | true - on FreeBSD I have to manually apply a patch to wine to get it to work properly, and another one for memory > 3GB |
| 23:05.15 | jpmorgan | i just built a ubuntu box and its a nice change from XP going tweaky on me for no apparent reasons |
| 23:07.19 | mattbnr | the next pc i get is gonna be linux based. im getting tired of windows |
| 23:07.30 | mattbnr | maybe win 7 will be better |
| 23:09.58 | mattbnr | i wnat this http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_can_series.do?storeName=computer_store&category=desktops&a1=Category&v1=All-in-One+PCs&series_name=600xt_series&jumpid=in_R329_prodexp/hhoslp/psg/desktops/All-in-One_PCs/600xt_series |
| 23:10.09 | mattbnr | all in 1 touchscreen |
| 23:21.44 | jpmorgan | so the latest BC on svn has a workaround? |
| 23:24.15 | Weltmeister | it seems to work for me - disabled UBI/postal/mailopener and got no crash in wine |
| 23:24.33 | mattbnr | i got a spam when i opened mailbox |
| 23:24.48 | mattbnr | i posted it for Kandoko |
| 23:24.58 | Weltmeister | I've seen that error too, mattbnr, but I didn't look further into it |
| 23:25.00 | mattbnr | i had to revert back till its fixed |
| 23:25.37 | mattbnr | i dotn like getting spammed from addosn. |
| 23:27.38 | jpmorgan | i think i will chill out a few days then before attempting to reestablish my auctioneering biz |
| 23:32.01 | mattbnr | im up to 14k im happy. |
| 23:32.07 | mattbnr | im just starting to make glyphs again |
| 23:32.14 | mattbnr | Weltmeister: you still around? |
| 23:32.18 | Weltmeister | yes |
| 23:32.47 | mattbnr | if i have my glypher set to look at the last 7 days of sells and i havent sold anything or made anything new in lets say 10 days will it treat every glyph as brand new? |
| 23:33.32 | Weltmeister | no, for "new" glyphs, if you've had even one sale or expired auction in history, it won't treat it as new |
| 23:33.49 | Weltmeister | but you should probably have it look further back in your sales history for now at least |
| 23:36.34 | mattbnr | ok |
| 23:47.52 | jpmorgan | lol from system mechanic pro - "System STatus is Poor" - no really? hah |
| 23:52.58 | jpmorgan | neat app tho thanks for the pointer |