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| 04:50.35 | ScratchMonkey | what's the downside of not having Auc-Db installed? It seems to be interfering with mail addons |
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| 05:01.01 | MattBnr | i dont think anything. it only does it when you dont have that item seen |
| 05:01.25 | MattBnr | so if you scan before opening the mail it shoudl be ok. i have mine removed as well for that reason norgs hasnt been around to fix it et |
| 05:04.28 | MattBnr | if you dont use the auc-db tool then there is no need for it |
| 05:14.15 | ScratchMonkey | thanks |
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| 07:23.17 | ^nbot | Bug 03ASER-204 10brykrys: Error when mousing over stack column of SearchUI results list06 (04In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-204 10brykrys: The same test is used in AutoMagic ConfirmSellUI.lua line... |
| 07:25.16 | ^nbot | Bug 03ASER-204 10brykrys: Error when mousing over stack column of SearchUI results list06 (04In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-204 10brykrys: I suspect that using GetItemInof here is also the cause o... |
| 07:26.16 | ^nbot | Bug 03ASER-204 10brykrys: Error when mousing over stack column of SearchUI results list06 (04In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-204 10brykrys: I suspect that using GetItemInfo here is also the cause o... |
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| 10:15.35 | LordTicut | hi all |
| 10:16.06 | LordTicut | i got a question.. maybe sumbody can help meh |
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| 12:01.16 | ^nbot | Bug 03ASER-204 10brykrys: Error when mousing over stack column of SearchUI results list06 (04In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-204 10brykrys: I suspect that using GetItemInfo here is also the cause o... |
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| 16:21.23 | CIA-28 | auctioneer: 03brykrys * r4183 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Fixes [AAMU-120][ASER-204]&[AAMU-122]: fixes several problems when clicking on or mousing over lists in AutoMagic and SearchUI. |
| 16:28.16 | ^nbot | Bug 03AAMU-120 10AnrDaemon: "The link is not an item" and unclickable "NIL" entries in AutoSell list.06 (04Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/AAMU-120 10brykrys: r4183 should fix this |
| 16:29.17 | ^nbot | Bug 03ASER-204 10brykrys: Error when mousing over stack column of SearchUI results list06 (04Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-204 10brykrys: r4183 |
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| 16:32.17 | ^nbot | Bug 03AAMU-121 10Palladia: Auto Sell list contains NIL items and generates errors06 (04Closed/Duplicate) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/AAMU-121 10brykrys: Duplicate of [AAMU-120] |
| 16:37.17 | ^nbot | Bug 03AAMU-116 10JJohns: table index is nil06 (04Closed/Duplicate) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/AAMU-116 10brykrys: Actually, [AAMU-120] is a duplicate of this issue, but ei... |
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| 16:50.15 | ^nbot | Bug 03SDEV-16 10brykrys: lib.ClearItem does not handle items with suffixes correctly06 (04In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/SDEV-16 10 |
| 16:50.19 | ^nbot | Task 03SDEV-17 10brykrys: Several minor code fixes and improvements06 (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/SDEV-17 10 |
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| 17:28.56 | taichi | hi guys |
| 17:29.12 | taichi | do your stuff get sold in AH? |
| 17:29.46 | taichi | on my server, people are undercutting like crazy, so auctioneer data is not accurate even I scan multiple times a day |
| 17:32.34 | taichi | anyone here? |
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| 17:37.58 | MattBnr | taichi: if you have your outlier filter in place i really woudlnt worry about the low prices |
| 17:38.41 | MattBnr | and yes my stuff sells like mad actually. i have beancount adjust my prices so if it doesnt sell it lowers my price by 1% |
| 17:38.53 | MattBnr | i use market as the pricing model |
| 17:39.09 | MattBnr | if you find a item that has a price way off set a fixed price of what you think it shoudl be |
| 17:39.38 | MattBnr | set your price, buy up the rest of the market and repost them |
| 17:40.07 | MattBnr | i just post at what ever price really i dotn care about others posting prices. set it at 48 hours and let it go if it sells great if not oh well post it again |
| 17:41.12 | taichi | thank you Matt |
| 17:41.52 | taichi | how do you adjust your price in beancounter? |
| 17:42.52 | MattBnr | i have it set to adjsut by success at 2% and fail at 1% |
| 17:43.17 | MattBnr | go to the matcher section of the options and i have mine set at 300% maximum and 75% below |
| 17:43.29 | MattBnr | works pretty well for me |
| 17:43.30 | taichi | I've tried to buy off all the things that are lower than me, but then the seller would just post more, they assume the demand of the item is high |
| 17:43.48 | MattBnr | what items are you posting |
| 17:43.58 | taichi | rugged leather |
| 17:47.13 | taichi | so every time I do search eg. resale, using Market Value is more accurate? |
| 17:47.45 | MattBnr | yes market tends to be the safest |
| 17:48.27 | MattBnr | i actually use appraiser on mine which will use what ever pricing model you use in appraiser. i have mine set to use sales, which uses what i sold the item for in the past, then market as secondary if i havent sold the item |
| 17:50.42 | taichi | mine appraiser is defualt using Marekt value tho |
| 17:50.55 | taichi | even alternate pricing is marekt value |
| 17:51.24 | MattBnr | i dont see the point in that really. |
| 17:51.42 | taichi | cuz after the 3.1 patch, AH price changed a lot, I can't use stats: sale anymore |
| 17:51.50 | MattBnr | why? |
| 17:51.56 | MattBnr | it uses what you sold the item for |
| 17:52.06 | taichi | things are getting cheaper and cheaper |
| 17:52.44 | taichi | for rugged leather example, I sold tons of them for 17g last week before the patch, now it's 8g in AH |
| 17:53.38 | MattBnr | so as long as you have your beancount set up it will auto adjust your prices according to the success/fail ratio |
| 17:54.03 | MattBnr | if it doesn sell 10 times it will lower your price by what ever percent you ahve it set to 10 times |
| 17:54.08 | MattBnr | liek 1% it will go down 10% |
| 17:54.18 | taichi | okay, I got it |
| 17:54.37 | MattBnr | it seems to be the most accurate way for me to adjust my prices rather then rely on the other peoples pricing |
| 17:55.52 | taichi | how do you set up your undercut option? |
| 17:56.08 | MattBnr | i dont use undercut |
| 17:56.24 | MattBnr | but when i did i think i had it set to go 150% above market adn 75% below |
| 17:56.32 | MattBnr | maybe 200% above and 50% below |
| 17:56.34 | MattBnr | i had a big range |
| 17:56.42 | MattBnr | set to undercut by 5% |
| 17:57.10 | taichi | ok |
| 17:58.41 | taichi | how do you use beancount to automatic drop price? |
| 17:58.52 | taichi | I don't see any option in post tho |
| 18:00.06 | MattBnr | in the options |
| 18:00.23 | MattBnr | where it says lower price by x% on success or fail |
| 18:00.42 | MattBnr | the top slider shoudl be the sucess one and the bottom one shoudl be the fail one |
| 18:00.56 | taichi | I set that already |
| 18:01.08 | taichi | but there's no option in post |
| 18:01.13 | MattBnr | that is the auto adjust. it uses your beancounter data to adjust your prices |
| 18:01.18 | MattBnr | no no |
| 18:01.27 | taichi | oh, it's automatic |
| 18:01.27 | MattBnr | post? post ab? |
| 18:01.31 | MattBnr | tab* |
| 18:01.37 | MattBnr | it only works with appraiser |
| 18:02.30 | taichi | ok, I got it now, thanks so much |
| 18:02.36 | MattBnr | no problem |
| 18:02.36 | taichi | auctioneer is a so advanced tool |
| 18:02.40 | MattBnr | it is |
| 18:02.41 | taichi | still learning |
| 18:02.44 | MattBnr | but very powerful |
| 18:02.55 | MattBnr | me too and ive been using it for 2 years+ |
| 18:04.46 | taichi | lol, I used it 2 years ago too, but I stopped playing wow because blizzard banned my acct claiming me sharing acct with multiple ppl |
| 18:04.55 | taichi | now I'm back, and auctioneer changed so much |
| 18:05.09 | MattBnr | yeah it has been through a lot of changes |
| 18:05.29 | taichi | I have another question about manipulating the market |
| 18:05.38 | taichi | or monoply, lol |
| 18:06.01 | Nechckn | taichi be sure to check out http://Wiki.Norganna.Org/Auctioneer , too. We have more in-depth help there as well. |
| 18:06.02 | taichi | if you buy too much, you'll give a false high demand to the other players tho |
| 18:06.17 | taichi | I read every single document there |
| 18:06.25 | Nechckn | Not that you cannot ask here or anythinng.. just saying |
| 18:06.30 | Nechckn | Oh- excellent! |
| 18:06.38 | Nechckn | many folks seem to miss it |
| 18:07.13 | taichi | but still learning it, all the documents are for basics, need to learn some advance skills with auctioneer, lol |
| 18:08.31 | taichi | anyone can answer my question about manipulating the market? |
| 18:08.37 | Nechckn | Gotcha... another resource are the forums, too. Use the search up in the right to search through the comments for "undercutting" or other such fun topics. |
| 18:09.03 | Nechckn | What is the question? |
| 18:09.25 | Nechckn | about buying too much? |
| 18:09.31 | taichi | yeah |
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| 18:09.49 | Nechckn | It really depends on the server and your $$ supply. |
| 18:10.07 | Nechckn | um.. one second, norgs actually made a really good post recently about that. |
| 18:10.19 | taichi | really? on the forum? |
| 18:10.24 | taichi | I definitely need to read it |
| 18:11.50 | Nechckn | http://forums.norganna.org/discussion/10290/ |
| 18:12.35 | Nechckn | Also, when you use the search... there is an "advanced" link in the upper right, so you can target the search to a specific subcategory, user, etc. |
| 18:12.43 | taichi | thank you, really appreciated! |
| 18:13.26 | Nechckn | So, you may find more use from those items under Auctioneer -> Discussion than Auctioneer -> Technical or Support |
| 18:13.44 | taichi | okay, I'll dig it |
| 18:13.54 | Nechckn | again- just saying =) |
| 18:16.24 | MattBnr | http://forums.norganna.org/discussion/10340/white-in-appraiser-when-first-opening-ah/#Item_2 |
| 18:17.58 | taichi | it's so useful, you guys are the best |
| 18:19.37 | MattBnr | ok |
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| 18:26.17 | Dao | how do i get the gatherer addon for mac? |
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| 18:28.33 | Dao | How od i get the gatherer addon for mac? |
| 18:32.25 | Nechckn | Well.. waiting for a few minutes helps, too... ./ends current grumble |
| 18:59.21 | taichi | hi, Nechckn, I have another question |
| 18:59.50 | taichi | why all the search does not really reflect the recent scan? |
| 19:00.26 | taichi | I use search right after scan, but the search results seem the same |
| 19:00.59 | taichi | many information is not updated, like the auction ending time, bid price, etc. |
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| 19:06.11 | Nechckn | Not sure exactly what you mean. So, you run a Searcher, bid or whatever, then run a full scan and try re-running the Searcher? |
| 19:07.27 | Nechckn | Note that the ending times are very weird, for each bid on an item, it extends the auction by around 7 minutes, so that could make some auctions not fall as you would expect. |
| 19:10.25 | Nechckn | add to that, the only times that are reported to the client are Less than 2h, Less than 8h (or 6, I forget), Less than 12h, or More than 12h |
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| 19:22.32 | taichi | okay, thanks Nechckn, I guess it's not my configuration. It is made like that |
| 19:23.54 | Nechckn | Also, we still keep items until they are basically "missed" twice by scanning. |
| 19:24.40 | Nechckn | It's not needed if folks use only the "fast" getall scan, but for those who have to use the "slow", regular scan it is needed to help ensure that items are not deleted when they still are on the AH. |
| 19:25.26 | Nechckn | basically, the slow scan pages through the AH, just as a user would and the busy AHes place "new" items at the end. So, it can push items to different pages, while the user is scanning. |
| 19:41.42 | taichi | I see. |
| 19:42.15 | taichi | thanks for the explanation |
| 19:44.16 | Nechckn | no problem- just saying that it shows information based on what we are able to get from Blizz. So, we do what we can on our end, but it would be better if we had direct access of some sort, too. That will likely never happen, so we are sort of stuck with what we have. |
| 19:44.46 | Nechckn | It's surely helpful and all, but there are ways we'd like to improve that are just not possible. |
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| 19:56.31 | Nechckn | Get outta town |
| 19:57.35 | Nechckn | pets the nice kitty. |
| 19:57.56 | Nechckn | realizes we need to put a lock in that doggie door. |
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| 20:01.40 | Gilles | Hey guys, I have been looking across the site and I am guessing since it is not working and i can find no info about it that Auctioneer does not run on a mac |
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| 20:07.27 | ScratchMonkey | I hate hit and run IRC posters |
| 20:07.45 | ScratchMonkey | just saw that swagdog finally got around to armory scraping for t-shirt designs |
| 20:07.54 | ScratchMonkey | would have saved me a ton of time buying shirts for my guild at xmas |
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| 20:44.31 | Nechckn | Why does anyone think that Auc, Gatherer, Enx, etc will not run on a Mac? No where do we say it does not and the one time we mention OSes, in the install, there are notes for MS Win, OS X, and even a tiny bit of linux. |
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| 21:23.48 | ScratchMonkey | maybe sarcastic marketing is in order: on addon websites, add "Now with Mac support!" |
| 21:25.18 | Nechckn | In a big 60's Batman "WoW" "BaM!" "Now supporting OS X!" |
| 21:25.28 | Nechckn | Hrm... I like that idea |
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