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| 00:24.31 | CIA-45 | auctioneer: 03Nechckn * r4115 10/branches/BeanCounter_Storage/: Creating branch for modification/testing of Storage and Stats. |
| 00:25.52 | CIA-45 | norganna-libs: 03Nechckn * r206 10/branches/Configator_moveableColumns/: Work complete and merged. |
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| 00:35.16 | ^nbot | Bug 03INF-60 10Nechckn: Tooltip anchoring not re-adjusting correctly; Add ability to allow others to call SetHeight() for the GameTooltip06* (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/INF-60 10 |
| 00:36.18 | ^nbot | Bug 03INF-60 10Nechckn: Tooltip anchoring not re-adjusting correctly; Add ability to allow others to call SetHeight() for the GameTooltip06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/INF-60 10 |
| 00:39.16 | ^nbot | Bug 03ASER-185 10Anaral: Searcher-General Offers Bid/BO of 0c with Realtime Search06 (04Closed/Duplicate) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-185 10Nechckn: See duplicate note, above. |
| 00:39.19 | ^nbot | New Feature 03ENX-112 10ccox: Show material value tooltip for enchant scrolls06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ENX-112 10Nechckn: We have seen more than a few requests for this type of fe... |
| 00:41.17 | ^nbot | Bug 03APPR-258 10normal: Cannot have Bid Only auctions06 (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-258 10Nechckn: Verified in-game, able to set a bid price, nil the sugges... |
| 00:42.18 | ^nbot | Improvement 03ASER-203 10Anaral: Add price per item to the 'Power User' One-Click Buying popup. 06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-203 10brykrys: The tooltip from the prompt should also be changed to inc... |
| 00:43.14 | ^nbot | Improvement 03BCNT-239 10brykrys: Add ability to track and search for Neutral Auctionhouse auctions separately06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-239 10brykrys: Relates to [ASAL-20], which in turn relates to [ADV-124].... |
| 00:44.16 | ^nbot | Improvement 03GATH-116 10loial: Improve the party icon06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/GATH-116 10 |
| 00:45.18 | ^nbot | Improvement 03GATH-116 10loial: Improve the party icon06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/GATH-116 10Nechckn: Anaral, If you would be so kind, we could really use some... |
| 00:47.16 | ^nbot | Improvement 03GATH-119 10loial: Change the HUD Heat feature to use a visually better system06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/GATH-119 10Nechckn: Confirming and awaiting comments from devs as to which tr... |
| 00:48.18 | ^nbot | New Feature 03AAMU-115 10Kalle: MailLoader Milling Rule06 (04Closed/Duplicate) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/AAMU-115 10Nechckn: Added in http://jira.norganna.org/browse/AAMU-111 which s... |
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| 00:49.00 | veix | hey again, heh been gathering some gas clouds :) |
| 00:49.19 | ^nbot | Bug 03GATH-118 10loial: Heat trails glitches when going between maps06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/GATH-118 10 |
| 00:50.58 | Nechckn | I actually do well by grabbing the water motes from the swamp |
| 00:51.20 | Nechckn | in Outlands, that is... seems "forgotten" so it's profitable =) |
| 00:52.17 | ^nbot | Documentation 03ASER-206 10Legorol: Suggestion for tooltip text06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-206 10Nechckn: Makes sense to add these onto the appropriate ASER config... |
| 00:53.15 | veix | im in northrend and sholalzar basin is nice place |
| 00:53.18 | ^nbot | New Feature 03ASER-197 10dinesh: Add click hook to auto-search for item.06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-197 10Nechckn: Makes sense. Believe that Kandoko is looking to clean up ... |
| 00:53.42 | veix | respawn speed seems way faster than usualy herbs atm |
| 00:53.51 | Nechckn | True, it all depends on how many others are lurking |
| 00:54.15 | ^nbot | Improvement 03BCNT-238 10brykrys: Ability to search BeanCounter data for different servers06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-238 10 |
| 00:54.32 | Nechckn | it's usually pretty busy, so I looked elsewhere... but, if it's not farmed well on your server it's likely better to spend time there. |
| 00:55.26 | veix | at this time of night here - i guess none at my realm :P |
| 00:57.16 | ^nbot | Improvement 03APPR-249 10dinesh: Allow posting when less than "num stacks" items are available, when set to specific number06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-249 10Nechckn: There are a few issues all revolving around allowing the ... |
| 00:59.17 | ^nbot | Bug 03LTT-30 10Neikos: LibExtraTip:RemoveCallback(callback) is broken06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/LTT-30 10Nechckn: Confirming, pending input from Tem. |
| 01:00.17 | ^nbot | Bug 03ASER-207 10ScratchMonkey: Disenchant searcher doesn't apply min skill slider from previous session06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-207 10 |
| 01:02.18 | ^nbot | Improvement 03LTT-31 10Nechckn: Tooltip anchoring not re-adjusting correctly; Add ability to allow others to call SetHeight() for the GameTooltip06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/LTT-31 10 |
| 01:03.17 | ^nbot | Task 03LTT-11 10Nechckn: Re-Link the tooltip to the Enh/INF SlideBar Icon06 (04Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/LTT-11 10Nechckn: Configuration added to the modules, where they belong. |
| 01:05.18 | ^nbot | Improvement 03LTT-29 10Nechckn: Disable the display of the tooltip when mousing-over bags in the inventory/bag bar.06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/LTT-29 10Nechckn: Lowered priority. |
| 01:08.19 | ^nbot | Task 03SIMP-17 10brykrys: Modify StatSimple to use serverKey correctly06 (04Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/SIMP-17 10Nechckn: Verified in dev/Trunk - changes go through with no errors... |
| 01:11.17 | ^nbot | Bug 03APPR-231 10AnrDaemon: Error preview batchpost06 (04Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-231 10Nechckn: Verified in dev/Trunk - Error is no longer thrown, functi... |
| 01:11.20 | ^nbot | Bug 03BCNT-228 10Kandoko: Tweak the compression function to prevent lockups and auto purge bad entries that would cause a infinite loop06 (04Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-228 10Nechckn: Verified in dev/Trunk - Compression added, no errors. |
| 01:12.16 | ^nbot | Bug 03APPR-239 10Loxado: Blank Appraiser detail window when changing Locale from deDE to enUS06 (04Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-239 10Nechckn: Verified in dev/Trunk - Tested with enUS, changing to oth... |
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| 01:13.18 | ^nbot | Bug 03ENX-108 10ccox: Add milling data for Fire Leaf and Fire Seed changes in 3.0.806 (04Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ENX-108 10Nechckn: Verified in dev/Trunk - Added and displaying in-game. |
| 01:15.17 | ^nbot | Bug 03ILVL-16 10RockSlice: 3931 FUBARed GetPrice()06 (04Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ILVL-16 10Nechckn: Verified in dev/Trunk - functions appropriately, no errors. |
| 01:15.20 | ^nbot | Task 03APPR-243 10Kandoko: Remove code that used to reset scroll windows if user has scrolled to far down to see results.06 (04Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-243 10Nechckn: Verified in dev/Trunk - Changes as noted, no errors. |
| 01:15.28 | ^nbot | New Feature 03CNFG-73 10Kandoko: Move the scrollframe reset to starting position out of modules and into configator.06 (04Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/CNFG-73 10Nechckn: Verified in dev/Trunk - Conigator now handling resets, no... |
| 01:29.18 | ^nbot | Bug 03APPR-258 10normal: Cannot have Bid Only auctions06 (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-258 10normal: Seems to be due to rounding of the Buyout. Disabled, this... |
| 01:34.21 | ^nbot | Improvement 03ADV-66 10Luke1410: Allow switching the active localization.06 (04Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-66 10Nechckn: Added and functioning. |
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| 04:00.38 | Safiyania | I'm having a weird bug with Auctioneer; with one of my characters I get a "Aborting post request: Item was not found in Inventory" |
| 04:01.04 | Nechckn | likely needs repaired |
| 04:01.05 | Safiyania | The item isn't soulbound, and I'm only posting a 1 item stack, does anyone know what I can do to diagnose the issue? |
| 04:01.14 | Nechckn | what is the item |
| 04:01.29 | Safiyania | Short Bastard Sword of Agility |
| 04:01.47 | Nechckn | check repair, almost guarantee that's it |
| 04:02.06 | Safiyania | ugh, that's a frustrating error message if that's it. :P |
| 04:02.29 | Nechckn | all it knows is there is some reason why it's being rejected |
| 04:02.36 | Nechckn | not the specific reason |
| 04:02.48 | Nechckn | So, it acts as if the item doesn't exist |
| 04:03.10 | Nechckn | Not the best case, but it's what is available. |
| 04:03.15 | Safiyania | Ah, limitation of the feedback then. :-| |
| 04:04.07 | Safiyania | If auctioneer can catch that maybe it would be nice to have some 'more information' button that lists reasons that might happen? |
| 04:04.17 | Safiyania | But thanks, that did the trick |
| 04:09.05 | Safiyania | Anyway, appreciate it; frustrating limitation of Blizzard to not give an exception or something when it fails. Have a great night! |
| 04:09.16 | Nechckn | quite |
| 04:09.20 | Nechckn | have a good one |
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| 04:58.37 | Aeidian | Anyone in here know how to change the scale size of the item box when you mouse over an item? |
| 05:08.01 | Nechckn | maybe if you waited... geez... |
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| 05:33.17 | I440r | i would like to request that walking away from the auctioneer and closing down the AH view CANSELS all auctions. |
| 05:33.37 | I440r | because i cannto figure out how to stop auctioneer from selling the rest of my mats when i wanted it to sell ONE ITEM |
| 05:33.49 | I440r | instead i made it sell ALL my items in stacks of 1 |
| 05:35.44 | Nechckn | set stack size to 1, 2, 3, etc |
| 05:36.11 | I440r | errr what? |
| 05:36.23 | Nechckn | also, at the bottom left of the Appraiser frame is a "stop" box that activates while Auc is posting. should you make an error, just press the button |
| 05:36.54 | I440r | err and i was supposed to know that was "STOP" how? lol |
| 05:37.23 | I440r | looks to me like theres plenty of space in that bar to write the letters s t o and p in the button :/ |
| 05:37.48 | I440r | but yea now that i know that button exists i can stop things |
| 05:37.53 | Nechckn | There are 2 boxes/sliders, depending on the posting frame you are using. One for size of the stack aka stack of 1, 2, etc. the other is number of stacks, same possibilities |
| 05:37.55 | I440r | but leaving the auction should also cansel |
| 05:37.59 | I440r | i know |
| 05:38.01 | I440r | i used the wrong one |
| 05:38.19 | Nechckn | It will, when you leave.. and it clears the queue after 5 minutes |
| 05:38.31 | I440r | aha |
| 05:38.41 | I440r | any way to adjust that timeout? |
| 05:38.42 | Nechckn | That was added due to folks having to defend against auctioneer killers, etc |
| 05:38.52 | Nechckn | Not easily, no |
| 05:38.57 | I440r | auctioneer killers? |
| 05:39.06 | Nechckn | Not even sure, off hand, where it's set in the code. |
| 05:39.27 | Nechckn | Yes... where the opposite faction sends rogues or others and they kill the auctioneers |
| 05:39.47 | Nechckn | So that anyone looking to auction is SOL until they re-spawn |
| 05:40.00 | Nechckn | Or if they moved accidentally, etc |
| 05:40.34 | I440r | / |
| 05:40.37 | I440r | oooh |
| 05:41.03 | I440r | they come kill the auctioneers in org on my server regularly lol |
| 05:41.49 | Nechckn | It's worse now with the achievements |
| 05:42.12 | Nechckn | It used to be bad, pre-BC because the 60s were bored... then it stopped, now it's back |
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| 14:07.07 | Linlord94 | Does the latest Gatherer support 3.0.8? |
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| 14:35.17 | ^nbot | Task 03BCNT-240 10Kandoko: Migrate Database over to equal length and equivalent data fields.06* (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-240 10 |
| 14:37.16 | ^nbot | Task 03BCNT-240 10Kandoko: Migrate Database over to equal length and equivalent data fields.06 (04In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-240 10Kandoko: Current commits to this ticket will be to the //branches/... |
| 14:38.18 | ^nbot | Improvement 03BCNT-239 10brykrys: Add ability to track and search for Neutral Auctionhouse auctions separately06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-239 10brykrys: Relates to [ASAL-20], which in turn relates to [ADV-124].... |
| 14:38.23 | ^nbot | Improvement 03BCNT-238 10brykrys: Ability to search BeanCounter data for different servers06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-238 10 |
| 14:38.29 | ^nbot | Task 03BCNT-240 10Kandoko: Migrate Database over to equal length and equivalent data fields.06 (04In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-240 10Kandoko: Current commits to this ticket will be to the //branches/... |
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| 14:52.18 | CIA-45 | auctioneer: 03kandoko * r4116 10/branches/BeanCounter_Storage/ (6 files): |
| 14:52.20 | CIA-45 | auctioneer: Starts [BCNT-240] |
| 14:52.22 | CIA-45 | auctioneer: First draft of new database code. Only for BRANCH SVN users not mainline |
| 14:52.24 | CIA-45 | auctioneer: ****Warning backup, this may or may not destroy your data, kick your dog, and taunt you a second time**** |
| 14:52.27 | CIA-45 | auctioneer: Moves all strings to equal length and layout regardless of DB. Removes <nil> and all 0 entries to save storage space. |
| 14:52.32 | CIA-45 | auctioneer: Updates DB version to 2.07 |
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| 15:54.16 | MaDdCrash | can anyone help me figure out an Auctioneer issue? |
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| 16:12.25 | JoBbZ | don't ask to ask. ask your question. Then wait as long as necessary for an answer. ;) |
| 16:12.55 | MaDdCrash | ok :) |
| 16:13.41 | MaDdCrash | what the hell am i doing wrong :P Auctioneer, wants me to buy Pygmy Suckerfish for "appraiser", however, when i go to re list them, the market price is much lower than what it told me to buy at |
| 16:13.44 | JoBbZ | I'm not likely to be able to answer it. ;) I'm just a user, but the devs are here, and generally are around by a few hours from now :P |
| 16:13.52 | MaDdCrash | im thinking, i just havent collected enough data yet ? |
| 16:14.35 | JoBbZ | heh, i had that same problem myself. Because of WoTLK, prices went nuts for a while, and now things have (at least on my server) started leveling out at what I figure will most likely end up being the real market prices |
| 16:15.39 | MaDdCrash | well i manually did a search on the fish.... |
| 16:15.40 | JoBbZ | but auctioneer still had to reconcile what it saw for a while as market price vs what is market price now |
| 16:15.54 | MaDdCrash | and there are like, 10 listings, at 23 silver each |
| 16:16.02 | MaDdCrash | auctioneer had me buy them at 40 silver |
| 16:16.18 | MaDdCrash | do i just need to do a lot more scans over a few days ? |
| 16:17.51 | JoBbZ | well, like I said, I'm not really the one to answer this. I think you can do one of two things. Turn off outliers, or you can re-init your database. I did the latter. ;) But I'd wait for someone else to answer. |
| 16:18.10 | MaDdCrash | what are outliers? |
| 16:19.25 | JoBbZ | well, let's say I scan AH for a few weeks, and I consistently see pygmy suckerfish listed at 2g each |
| 16:19.37 | JoBbZ | Auctioneer will make that my baseline value, because that's what it is going for |
| 16:19.59 | JoBbZ | Then lets say, a lot of people are now able to fish in northrend, and the market price for it crahes down to 23 silver each |
| 16:20.06 | JoBbZ | because there's an abundance of supply |
| 16:20.35 | JoBbZ | because that's such a substantial drop, the new price is really considered an outlier, and the weight of its impact on the data is limited |
| 16:20.45 | JoBbZ | Are you familiar with statistical outliers? |
| 16:20.59 | JoBbZ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlier |
| 16:21.18 | JoBbZ | basically the idea is to try and prevent someone from listing X item at many times its normal price from affecting the market rate |
| 16:21.24 | JoBbZ | most of the time, that works well |
| 16:21.28 | MaDdCrash | im not... i'll have to take a look, but i understand what your saying now |
| 16:21.32 | JoBbZ | :) |
| 16:21.56 | MaDdCrash | helps against the 10902902g linen cloth ? |
| 16:22.06 | JoBbZ | right |
| 16:22.19 | JoBbZ | so, if the market is fairly normal, you overall are well protected |
| 16:22.20 | MaDdCrash | do you use Bottom scanner? |
| 16:22.32 | JoBbZ | I use search UI |
| 16:22.45 | JoBbZ | I tihnk bottom scanner is gone from current auctioneer, replaced wth searchUI, but I coudl be wrong :P |
| 16:22.54 | MaDdCrash | yeah i noticed its not in there any more |
| 16:23.01 | JoBbZ | but when blizzard releases an expansion, and there's a flood of new items, it upsets the market for a while |
| 16:23.02 | MaDdCrash | looks like search does same thing though |
| 16:23.12 | JoBbZ | yeah, that's the new search UI |
| 16:23.45 | MaDdCrash | im finding that when i search, i have to sit and take about 5-10 min to figure out if something is really as profitable as Auctioneer is trying to tell me |
| 16:23.48 | MaDdCrash | usually, its not... |
| 16:23.56 | MaDdCrash | so thats what im trying to figure out how to make it more accurate |
| 16:24.06 | MaDdCrash | the few times it really IS as profitable... someone has already nabbed it :( |
| 16:24.29 | JoBbZ | yeah |
| 16:24.51 | JoBbZ | The majority of things it tells me may be profitable aren't as well |
| 16:25.16 | JoBbZ | people have become quite adept at gaming the system |
| 16:25.42 | MaDdCrash | is that, just how it is... or are there mod tweaks that can make it more reliable ? |
| 16:33.34 | JoBbZ | well, i'd wait on someone else to answer that ;) I'm always learning with auc |
| 16:47.33 | maqr | is it possible to have auctioneer share data between users? so a guild, for example, could all share market data? |
| 16:51.45 | CIA-45 | auctioneer: 03kandoko * r4117 10/branches/BeanCounter_Storage/BeanCounterUpdate.lua: |
| 16:51.45 | CIA-45 | auctioneer: Continues [BCNT-240] |
| 16:51.45 | CIA-45 | auctioneer: Integrity check will now function with new DB format |
| 16:52.51 | Kandoko | maqr: you can use ask price to check for a specific item, but no there is no in game way to share databases. Its just too much traffic/data to attempt |
| 16:54.39 | maqr | Kandoko: that's what i figured, but askprice oddly says "by 1 people using Auctioneer Advanced" on its replies, so i thought maybe there was a way to make that more than 1 people :) |
| 16:55.20 | Kandoko | That means no one else in guild/party/raid at that time has aucadv/askprice running |
| 16:55.47 | Kandoko | Askprice will swarm the data from all guild auctioneers users hence the seen by # |
| 16:56.33 | maqr | oh, i didn't even know it worked through guildchat, i thought it was message only |
| 16:56.36 | maqr | that makes sense now :) |
| 16:57.06 | Kandoko | can be guild, party, raid or whisper triggered I believe |
| 16:57.55 | MaDdCrash | Kandoko, how long do i need to let scans run, before I can relie on auctioneer to be reasonably accurate ? |
| 16:58.12 | maqr | btw, any idea what "min discount" means on the "disenchant" serachui page? |
| 16:58.21 | MaDdCrash | my example i posted earlier, it told me to buy suckerfish at 40 silver... when, there are numerus listed at 23 silver |
| 16:59.21 | Kandoko | MaDdCrash: usually once a day, for about a week is good enough to get a baseline. What seracher were you using and what profit margins and % |
| 16:59.50 | JoBbZ | Kandoko: The problem is his baseline price is already set to something much higher. My guess would be the new market price is beign seen as an outlier |
| 17:00.05 | MaDdCrash | pretty much the out of the box defaults |
| 17:00.36 | MaDdCrash | in the searcher, i did a search for disenchant stuff also, it showed me what it thought would be profitable, but a manual search, showed it to be wrong |
| 17:00.45 | Kandoko | maqr: The searchers have two valuations % discount (how far below average price the item is) and fixed gold amount (if I can't make at least this don't show) |
| 17:01.03 | Kandoko | it has to match both settings to prompt for purchase. |
| 17:01.12 | MaDdCrash | in the searcher UI, i told it to only show what i can make 1g or more on |
| 17:01.36 | MaDdCrash | whats the difference between Appraiser, and Resell evaluator ? |
| 17:01.58 | MaDdCrash | I only want to buy to re list higher, should I use one specifically instead of the other? |
| 17:02.08 | maqr | Kandoko: what price does it base those two calculations on? 'market price'? |
| 17:02.27 | Kandoko | This stop things like a 10000g item selling for 9995 promting you. Cause yes it could make 5 gold, but the % diffrence is sooo low the risk would not be worth it |
| 17:03.29 | Kandoko | mad what version are you running? resale has not been in release in aloong time |
| 17:03.35 | MaDdCrash | i THINK, i have it at 35% below |
| 17:03.56 | MaDdCrash | i just downloaded what was on auctioneeraddon.com |
| 17:04.15 | MaDdCrash | 5 something |
| 17:04.26 | Kandoko | ok, where are you looking |
| 17:04.30 | maqr | Kandoko: yeah, it makes sense, but if i could base the profit on the would-list-for-with-undercut price that appraiser is going to list my mats for, and the 'min discount' on the 3 day histogram... that'd be great, i'm not sure how to tell it do that though |
| 17:04.49 | MaDdCrash | OHHHHHhhh... ok, i went into archives and dug up BtmScanner :) |
| 17:05.19 | Kandoko | sorry :)not a clue on btmscanner havnt used it in ages |
| 17:05.26 | maqr | MaDdCrash: you probably want the latest aucadv with searchui |
| 17:05.39 | MaDdCrash | i have that |
| 17:05.43 | MaDdCrash | i also have btmscanner |
| 17:06.13 | MaDdCrash | do they not play nice together? |
| 17:06.27 | maqr | i'm pretty sure you're supposed to click the search icon thing at the top of the auctioneer window, and that replaces bottomscanner |
| 17:06.34 | MaDdCrash | seems to be working, i was just thinking i dont have enough data collected yet or something... |
| 17:06.35 | maqr | that's just what i read though, i've never tried bottomscanner |
| 17:06.39 | MaDdCrash | well its a 1 time search right ? |
| 17:06.42 | MaDdCrash | not continuous |
| 17:06.57 | Kandoko | mad its both. |
| 17:07.07 | maqr | if you look at the 'realtime' tab on searchui, you can set which filters it should scan for in real time |
| 17:07.08 | Kandoko | ~learn2sui |
| 17:07.17 | Kandoko | bah what was that command |
| 17:07.29 | MaDdCrash | oh wow... ok I didnt know it was real time |
| 17:07.32 | Kandoko | ~lart purl |
| 17:07.32 | purl | says "boot to the head" and knocks kandoko over |
| 17:07.45 | maqr | MaDdCrash: it's only realtime if you click the magnifying glass thing at the top of the auctioneer window |
| 17:07.46 | MaDdCrash | it still wont auto buy though right |
| 17:07.52 | maqr | it can, yeah |
| 17:07.57 | maqr | well, you'd have to click 'yes' to make it buy anyway |
| 17:08.04 | MaDdCrash | you have to click yes though yeah |
| 17:08.13 | maqr | check the searchui realtime options |
| 17:08.16 | Kandoko | maqr: I think if you ser the Price valuation method to appraiser you can then change the appraiser evaluation for that item to what you want |
| 17:08.22 | MaDdCrash | there was a macro for BtmScanner, is there one for clicking yes in searchui ? |
| 17:08.24 | Kandoko | anyways I need to run |
| 17:08.39 | maqr | Kandoko: ty, take care :) |
| 17:08.40 | Kandoko | mad yes check the wiki/forums |
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| 17:10.01 | Kandoko | maqr: one last think /auc clear [itemlink] can be used to purge bad single items if they have gotten posioned |
| 17:10.15 | maqr | MaDdCrash: ^^^ i think that's for yoU :) |
| 17:10.35 | Kandoko | or set a fixed price for the item in appraiser, tou can use itemlinks from chat so you don't have to physically buy it to make settinsg for it |
| 17:10.35 | maqr | Kandoko: i'm just trying to fine tune how searchui does its math to make sure i'm buying effeciently :) |
| 17:11.04 | MaDdCrash | same here :) i think i just dont have enough data collected yet |
| 17:11.09 | MaDdCrash | only did 1 scan hah |
| 17:11.18 | maqr | Kandoko: so you think that searchui uses whatever appraiser has the item set to calculate as? |
| 17:11.38 | maqr | because i can work with that, but i don't know exactly how to verify it |
| 17:12.04 | Kandoko | use the fast scan (fast forward buuton) make scann AH far quicker 2-5 min... may nned to do it in exodar or darnassus (ie slow city) |
| 17:12.26 | MaDdCrash | ALLIANCE!!!!! ewwwwww |
| 17:13.15 | Kandoko | Resale has a valuation method to use drop box |
| 17:13.41 | MaDdCrash | im searching for the macro button to buy the deals it finds, in RTS |
| 17:13.46 | MaDdCrash | ./run if (BtmScan.Prompt:IsVisible()) then BtmScan.Prompt.Yes:Click() end |
| 17:13.51 | MaDdCrash | thats what I have that works for BtmScanner |
| 17:14.06 | maqr | Kandoko: yeah, that's what i thought was odd, because Disenchant and the rest dont' have that valuation method for selection |
| 17:14.15 | maqr | MaDdCrash: i'm really pretty sure you shouldn't be using btmscanner at all |
| 17:14.48 | MaDdCrash | well, right... since SearchUI does the same thing right? |
| 17:14.54 | maqr | yeah |
| 17:15.04 | MaDdCrash | 2 questions, when SearchUI finds a deal, will it do what BtmScanner did, and show me a pop up ? |
| 17:15.10 | maqr | MaDdCrash: yes |
| 17:15.17 | MaDdCrash | and 2) is there a macro command to Accept the offer |
| 17:15.18 | maqr | MaDdCrash: see the 'realtime' option in searchui |
| 17:15.23 | maqr | probably, that i don't know |
| 17:15.39 | maqr | looks like it'd be very similar to what your btmscan macro is, but i don't know exactly what it'd be |
| 17:15.50 | maqr | i think there's api documentation you could use to write it |
| 17:18.03 | MaDdCrash | how does Arbitrage determine if you can sell soemthign on Neutral AH for more? |
| 17:18.09 | MaDdCrash | do you have to scan both AH's ? |
| 17:18.12 | maqr | probably |
| 17:18.50 | MaDdCrash | what do you do Maqr? just list stuff you farm on an AH toon, or do you AH farm ? |
| 17:19.30 | maqr | well, i'm still learning, but right now i shard stuff with the disenchant scanner, and i list herbs that i fly around and collect |
| 17:19.48 | MaDdCrash | ahh... yeah i'm doing a bit of buying / DE'ing.. |
| 17:19.56 | MaDdCrash | im looking to just AH farm while I work |
| 17:20.02 | maqr | what server are you on? :p |
| 17:20.11 | MaDdCrash | Kel'Thuzad :) U ? |
| 17:20.16 | maqr | lol, alterac mountains |
| 17:20.32 | MaDdCrash | i had to change the level of DE item to 325 because it wanted me to buy a bunch of lvl 19 stuff |
| 17:20.44 | MaDdCrash | i suppose, if the lvl 19 stuff sold well it might not be a bad idea |
| 17:20.45 | maqr | nothing wrong with buying level 19 stuff, people still need the mats to level enchanting |
| 17:21.03 | MaDdCrash | hmm.. yeah maybe i should turn it back on lol |
| 17:21.10 | JoBbZ | plenty of twinks |
| 17:21.18 | MaDdCrash | i guess i shouldn't care what level it is, as long as its selling |
| 17:21.22 | maqr | you can just sit at AH with the scanner on and it'll make a noise when you should alt tab and click 'yes' |
| 17:21.26 | JoBbZ | If I find a good blue item that's level 19, for example, I can usually sell it for a good price |
| 17:21.33 | JoBbZ | lol maqr |
| 17:21.50 | MaDdCrash | well yeah, but thats what the macro is for :P |
| 17:22.02 | maqr | yeah, i don't know what the macro is, i guess i can write one |
| 17:22.12 | maqr | next time i go back to ah, i'll try to do it |
| 17:22.20 | MaDdCrash | well, i have it for BtmScanner hah... but not the searchui |
| 17:22.31 | maqr | just delete btmscanner |
| 17:22.32 | maqr | you don't need it |
| 17:22.47 | maqr | it's not even being developed anymore, afaik |
| 17:22.51 | MaDdCrash | so I hear it dinging away while im at my work PC... i can look over and see what its buying |
| 17:22.59 | maqr | searchui does that |
| 17:23.00 | MaDdCrash | yeah, i'm gonna get rid of it, i didnt realize it was replaced |
| 17:23.28 | maqr | all the buttons in aucadv are named somehow, so you should be able to 'click' them with a macro like that |
| 17:23.29 | JoBbZ | yeah, bottom scanner is dead :P |
| 17:23.54 | MaDdCrash | dead but works heh... bought me 2x Eter Belt Buckles for 1c |
| 17:24.02 | MaDdCrash | but apparently searchUI will do the same |
| 17:24.07 | maqr | i'd really like a way to track my Disenchant purchases/sales better |
| 17:24.24 | maqr | like if i buy an item for X gold, shard it, resell it for Y, i wish beancounter could track that somehow |
| 17:24.52 | MaDdCrash | not going to get rid of BtmScanner untill I find a way to press the YES button for SearchUI |
| 17:25.09 | maqr | i'm sure you can figure it out |
| 17:25.15 | MaDdCrash | instead of clicking, i just press the #1 key |
| 17:25.24 | maqr | it's a 2 line macro |
| 17:25.49 | MaDdCrash | yeah... prolly simple... |
| 17:26.10 | MaDdCrash | wondr how to find out what the name of the buttons are ? |
| 17:26.22 | maqr | http://forums.norganna.org/discussion/8910/ |
| 17:26.26 | maqr | looks like someone already asked and figured it out |
| 17:26.35 | MaDdCrash | BtmScan.Prompt = SearchUI.Prompt ? |
| 17:26.38 | MaDdCrash | oh... let me look |
| 17:27.33 | MaDdCrash | woot |
| 17:27.35 | MaDdCrash | TY! |
| 17:28.05 | MaDdCrash | im thinking of buying out all the Abyss Crystals in preps for 3.1 |
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| 17:28.19 | maqr | it's probably gonna be months before 3.1 drops |
| 17:29.31 | JoBbZ | really? |
| 17:29.36 | JoBbZ | the just sent out the pre-patch for it |
| 17:29.40 | JoBbZ | I figured it couldn't be too long |
| 17:29.41 | maqr | i think so, ulduar isn't really close to done, afaik |
| 17:29.47 | maqr | i think that was just the big content |
| 17:29.55 | maqr | like the new textures and models and stuff |
| 17:32.00 | MaDdCrash | they said April... is their goal |
| 17:32.05 | maqr | word |
| 17:32.14 | MaDdCrash | mid april ish i would guess |
| 17:32.20 | maqr | could be, it's blizz though :p |
| 17:32.26 | MaDdCrash | yeah |
| 17:32.36 | MaDdCrash | when it does release, prices on Abyss Crystals should go through the roof though |
| 17:33.14 | MaDdCrash | there arent any new enchanting mats being released right? The new chants and such will require Abyss ? |
| 17:33.31 | maqr | i'm not sure |
| 17:33.49 | maqr | i'd assume that's right though |
| 17:34.16 | maqr | i wouldn't try to guess the price though |
| 17:34.23 | maqr | i mean lots more people will have naxx on farm by then |
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| 17:34.37 | MaDdCrash | well abyss crystalls are cheap now with nax on farm by like, everyone |
| 17:34.47 | MaDdCrash | cheap on our server being 100g each |
| 17:35.06 | MaDdCrash | according to wowhead, there are no new enchanting mats... |
| 17:35.18 | MaDdCrash | so all the new gear from Ulduar, that people want enchanted, will require abyss |
| 17:35.32 | maqr | yeah but more people are constantly farming epics |
| 17:36.00 | MaDdCrash | i'm thinking it will be the same as when new arena season hits, and everyone goes nuts for enchanting the new welfare epics |
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| 17:36.15 | maqr | dunno |
| 17:36.46 | MaDdCrash | i've noticed that ever wed / thurs abyss prices are low ( they just got done farming nax ) and then about sunday / monday they go up when the supply goes down lol |
| 17:36.47 | maqr | i wish i could look at the wow market like stock prices |
| 17:36.55 | MaDdCrash | wowecon.com |
| 17:37.03 | maqr | *for free |
| 17:37.11 | MaDdCrash | can look at prices and stuff for free |
| 17:37.17 | MaDdCrash | i dont have a paid account |
| 17:38.03 | maqr | well it'd be more useful if you could choose the server |
| 17:38.07 | maqr | and even then, their data looks kinda iffy |
| 17:38.23 | MaDdCrash | you can choose server |
| 17:38.27 | MaDdCrash | and faction |
| 17:38.39 | MaDdCrash | go to wowecon.com and at teh very top, select yoru server and faction |
| 17:38.47 | MaDdCrash | then type in something to search for... |
| 17:39.02 | MaDdCrash | looks fairly accurate for our server... |
| 17:39.07 | maqr | oh, i see |
| 17:39.24 | MaDdCrash | apparently if you have a premium, they can send you txt msgs or emails when a price goes above or below your defined threshold |
| 17:39.38 | MaDdCrash | auctioneer apparently can use wowecon's pricing too |
| 17:40.59 | maqr | yeah, i don't know how i feel about that though |
| 17:41.39 | maqr | i wonder how they're getting their data too |
| 17:41.47 | maqr | it doesn't really say how often they're scanning |
| 17:43.26 | maqr | i don't think aucadv even stores data points though, just statistics |
| 17:43.30 | maqr | because it'd be too unweildy |
| 17:43.44 | maqr | *unwieldy |
| 17:44.33 | maqr | i don't think buying/selling stuff for resale is very good though |
| 17:44.44 | maqr | we don't really have a good way of keeping track of the inflation in wow, for example |
| 17:44.58 | JoBbZ | or deflation :P |
| 17:45.08 | maqr | yeah, that |
| 17:45.16 | JoBbZ | 99% of what resale tells me is a "good buy" is bogus |
| 17:45.36 | JoBbZ | I have to very carefully look at the values. Lots of people on my server post stuff at prices that will never sell |
| 17:45.47 | JoBbZ | and those generally end up as the baseline |
| 17:45.54 | maqr | yeah, it should really only track transactions |
| 17:46.01 | maqr | but i don't know if there's code for that (yet?) |
| 17:46.01 | MaDdCrash | doesnt it? |
| 17:46.07 | maqr | i thought it just tracked listings |
| 17:46.17 | MaDdCrash | it says like, 95% buy out 3g |
| 17:46.31 | MaDdCrash | does that mean 96% had a buyout of 3g, but not necessarily that they sold ? |
| 17:46.45 | maqr | actually, i'm not sure |
| 17:46.54 | MaDdCrash | thought that is supposed to be a good indication, that if you found an item for 1g, with 96% BO being 3g, you should buy it |
| 17:47.30 | maqr | well at first i looked at the 3 day averages |
| 17:47.40 | maqr | now i just look at my previous sale prices, since i sell the same mats every day |
| 18:36.31 | MaDdCrash | in SearchUI, how do i close the config text, so i can once again see the items listed in the searchUI results??? |
| 18:41.06 | maqr | there's a little plus or minus icon on the bottom left of the frame |
| 18:46.52 | lucky | hmm, are there any plugins/addons/utilities which will produce a chart-over-time of the market price? |
| 18:51.53 | maqr | there's a histogram as part of aucadv, but i don't know how to read it, it doesn't seem very useful to me |
| 19:33.44 | Kandoko | auctionDB which is a offline WIP that imports auctioneer data into a SQL database |
| 19:35.00 | Kandoko | http://auctioneerdb.com/ still not out of beta thou, ie little more than simple offline reporting |
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| 20:04.12 | MaDdCrash | is there a converter, to check cloth combines? |
| 20:04.22 | MaDdCrash | 5x netherweave, vs 1 Bolt of Netherweave ? |
| 20:18.14 | Kandoko | Not atm, unless its in the converter seracher. But I think that only handles things like chant mats and motes |
| 20:33.40 | JoBbZ | yeah, I'd like to see it handle bars vs raw ore too |
| 20:39.12 | MaDdCrash | how does the ItemAuctionHistory work with data points? |
| 20:52.35 | CIA-45 | auctioneer: 03kandoko * r4118 10/branches/BeanCounter_Storage/ (3 files): |
| 20:52.37 | CIA-45 | auctioneer: Continues [BCNT-240] |
| 20:52.41 | CIA-45 | auctioneer: Failed bids now store seller and stack info. Will properly remove matched postedDB entries. |
| 20:52.47 | CIA-45 | auctioneer: Fixes display bug with auction house frame |
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| 21:14.20 | MaDdCrash | is Resale a PITA to config, or is it just way non reliable ? |
| 21:18.53 | MattBnr | i have no problems with mine. |
| 21:19.03 | MattBnr | whats up |
| 21:34.52 | MattBnr | or no |
| 22:00.21 | JoBbZ | MattBnr: quite frankly for me, resale pretty much always tells me things that are invalid |
| 22:00.28 | JoBbZ | it's very rare it has good info (but it does happen occasionally) |
| 22:00.33 | JoBbZ | that's even after resetting my database |
| 22:00.46 | JoBbZ | Like I should buy out 50 instances of some thread because they are all below market value |
| 22:00.56 | JoBbZ | I think 50 instances of it gives a pretty good clue the market value must be way off |
| 22:04.55 | MattBnr | lol |
| 22:05.04 | MattBnr | well block the item at that price |
| 22:05.11 | MattBnr | hit the ignore price button |
| 22:05.23 | MattBnr | or if its a vendor item jsut ignore it |
| 22:05.28 | MattBnr | liek rune thread |
| 22:06.02 | MattBnr | what are your outlier filters set to. |
| 22:06.16 | ^nbot | Bug 03ASER-210 10Xit: Real Time Search sends wrong item position to Searchers06* (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-210 10 |
| 22:06.21 | MattBnr | FYI resale searcher is jsut a tool if someone else has poisioned the market it cant help that |
| 22:08.01 | MattBnr | i woudl make sure your filters are all set and tthen clear the item price |
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| 22:09.18 | JoBbZ | MattBnr: whatever the defaults are ;) |
| 22:09.34 | JoBbZ | but I'll try ignore price |
| 22:15.39 | lucky | i'm always surprised how many auctions there are which have vendor sale profits :D |
| 22:16.06 | MattBnr | i love it. i make alto of money that way |
| 22:16.10 | MattBnr | alot* |
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| 22:17.59 | I440r | is there a way to make the NAME field of the AH wider so i dont have to keep reading "Enchant blah Major x....." and have to keep pointing at EVERY item to find the one im looking for? |
| 22:33.46 | MattBnr | yep right click the header and drag it over |
| 22:34.10 | MattBnr | or maybe its alt then right click |
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| 23:56.04 | MaDdCrash | i dont know if my filters are set correctly, but, its wanting me to buy stuff for resale, that, makes no sense to buy |