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| 02:08.20 | Adrobiel | Where might i find the settings to change the default duration for the Post screen? |
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| 02:20.09 | MattBnr | i do believe there is a "remember my settings" on that page mark that and you wont have to change it |
| 02:29.02 | Nechckn_AFK | If you click the "Configure" button at the top of the "Post" frame, you will find the available options for that frame. |
| 02:36.34 | Adrobiel | Ok thanks i'll try it next time i'm at the AH |
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| 06:43.37 | carnophage | are there any addons that will analyze beancoutner data? |
| 06:43.43 | carnophage | like most profitable cuts/whatever? |
| 06:49.15 | ^nbot | Improvement 03INF-53 10Hirsute: Update Informant with 3.0.8 item data06* (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/INF-53 10 |
| 06:50.15 | ^nbot | Improvement 03INF-53 10Hirsute: Update Informant with 3.0.8 item data06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/INF-53 10Hirsute: A lot of data changed with 3.0.8 (like Shovel Tusk Meat n... |
| 06:50.29 | CIA-33 | auctioneer: 03Hirsute * r4024 10Informant/ (Data/InfQuests.lua Data/InfVendors.lua InfData.lua): [INF-53] This updates the Informant data with the 3.0.8 changes and includes data for Inscription now, as well. |
| 06:51.15 | ^nbot | Improvement 03INF-53 10Hirsute: Update Informant with 3.0.8 item data06 (04Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/INF-53 10Hirsute: Data has been updated. |
| 06:54.16 | ^nbot | Improvement 03INF-54 10Hirsute: Re-implement the "additional" field in the informant data window.06* (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/INF-54 10 |
| 06:55.16 | ^nbot | Improvement 03INF-54 10Hirsute: Re-implement the "additional" field in the informant data window.06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/INF-54 10Hirsute: This will wait until I can get an answer about how to fix... |
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| 07:42.28 | Lylie | morning peeps |
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| 08:06.06 | Eviltim66 | what is the slash command to reset auctioneer |
| 08:06.15 | Eviltim66 | my post items button isnt working |
| 08:06.37 | Eviltim66 | ~auctstuff |
| 08:06.38 | purl | I know about the following topics (type one for more info): ~aucdeletesv, ~auctioneerbeta, ~auctioneersvn, ~auctfaq, ~auctdownload, ~auctinstall, ~auctupdate, ~enxstatus, ~norgjira, ~norgbug <nickname>, ~recruitingdrive, ~transferdata |
| 08:07.25 | Eviltim66 | ~auctdownload |
| 08:07.26 | purl | well, auctdownload is Auctioneer can always be obtained at http://AuctioneerAddOn.Com/dl/ . If a beta is available, it will be listed under the "Preview" section. For important information about upgrading, please also type ~AuctUpdate |
| 08:07.43 | Eviltim66 | ~auctioneerbeta |
| 08:07.44 | purl | i guess auctioneerbeta is When needed for testing and feedback, a beta version will be available from http://AuctioneerAddOn.Com/dl/#preview . A beta is not always necessary/available, but if one exists, it will be available there. Bugs or other issues should be expected and, if you would like to help, reported via the Forums or here in IRC; for more, type ~norgbug |
| 08:08.02 | Eviltim66 | ~norbug |
| 08:08.44 | Eviltim66 | ~aucdeletesv |
| 08:08.45 | purl | Did you try deleting (or backing up) the file "/WTF/Account/<account name>/SavedVariables/Auctioneer.lua" while WoW is not running? This can fix various problems, but you will lose your old auction scan data. |
| 08:09.08 | Eviltim66 | ~auctioneersvn |
| 08:09.08 | purl | You can get the Auctioneer SVN from http://svn.norganna.org/auctioneer/trunk (See also ~svn and ~tortoisesvn) |
| 08:09.20 | Eviltim66 | ~auctfaq |
| 08:09.21 | purl | well, auctfaq is The Auctioneer FAQ can be found at http://Wiki.Norganna.Org/AucAdvanced/FAQ or in the "stickied" discussion at the top of http://Forums.Norganna.Org/4/ |
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| 08:53.15 | ^nbot | Bug 03ADV-404 10Nechckn: AucAdvanced.API.QueryImage(\{ itemId = id \}) is currently returning items without a bid value, which it shouldn't be doing06 (04In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-404 10brykrys: After further testing today: Cases found with minBid == 0... |
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| 12:29.24 | Adrobiel | I noticed that the scanfinish option to shut down wow didn't work. Do you need to relogin to save any such features before they work? |
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| 12:47.56 | beetas | Hi. anybody had problems unzipping version 5.2 auctioneer- only 59Kb downloaded? |
| 12:52.11 | beetas | all quiet so will try elsewhere, perhaps 5.3 |
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| 14:35.28 | dinesh1 | test |
| 14:35.33 | dinesh1 | d |
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| 14:47.04 | Leak_0055 | Hi all |
| 14:47.41 | Leak_0055 | im a bt new to wow and i saw the Actioneer addons but i dont realy know how to use it can anybody help me? |
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| 14:48.35 | Leak_0034 | so can anybody help me? |
| 14:55.13 | MattBnr | there are guides you can read that will help on our wiki |
| 14:55.22 | MattBnr | or check the forums |
| 14:55.27 | MattBnr | lots of good info there |
| 14:55.33 | Leak_0034 | can link me the site? |
| 14:55.41 | MattBnr | http://wiki.norganna.org/Main_Page |
| 14:55.54 | MattBnr | http://wiki.norganna.org/Main_Page |
| 14:55.58 | MattBnr | woops |
| 14:56.10 | Leak_0034 | ty :D |
| 14:56.13 | MattBnr | http://forums.norganna.org/discussions/ |
| 14:56.36 | RockSlice | http://wiki.norganna.org/AucAdvanced also has some starter articles, Leak_0034 |
| 14:57.17 | Leak_0034 | ty all |
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| 15:08.16 | Leak_0034 | btw i saw in old versions of actioneer i could check what i wanted to scan is that posible with the V5.2 so yes where can i find that |
| 15:08.47 | Nechckn_AFK | hold Control+Left-Click the category name |
| 15:09.00 | Leak_0034 | ty :F |
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| 17:00.14 | ^nbot | Task 03BCNT-234 10Anaral: Added an apostrophe to TT_SearchBox, to match the localizer.06* (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-234 10 |
| 17:01.27 | CIA-33 | auctioneer: 03anaral * r4025 10BeanCounter/BeanCounterFrames.lua: [BCNT-234] Fix: In localizer TT_SearchBox has an apostrophe at the end of it, so added an apostrophe in the BeanCounterFrames.lua string so the tooltip will display correctly. |
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| 17:10.15 | ^nbot | Task 03BCNT-234 10Anaral: Added an apostrophe to TT_SearchBox, to match the localizer.06 (04Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-234 10 |
| 17:26.26 | CIA-33 | auctioneer: 03Hirsute * r4026 10Informant/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [INF-54] Informant now utilizes the Additional field to display an item's sub-type. For example, Scrolls will now display as "Consumable - Scroll". |
| 17:26.44 | Nechckn | claps for mas datazzzz |
| 17:28.15 | ^nbot | Improvement 03INF-54 10Hirsute: Re-implement the "additional" field in the informant data window.06 (04Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/INF-54 10Hirsute: Additional field has been reimplemented. See this (poor) ... |
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| 17:37.15 | ^nbot | Bug 03INF-52 10Elviswind: Informant option "Show inventory icon" still present in "General Informant options" window06 (04Closed/Duplicate) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/INF-52 10Nechckn: This was accomplished during the re-localization of Infor... |
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| 18:13.57 | CIA-33 | auctioneer: 03anaral * r4027 10BeanCounter/ (BeanCounterFrames.lua BeanCounterStrings.lua): |
| 18:13.57 | CIA-33 | auctioneer: [BCNT-234] UnFix: In localizer TT_SearchBox had an apostrophe at the end of it, |
| 18:13.57 | CIA-33 | auctioneer: Hirsute did the logical thing and made a new string, so apostrophe removed has |
| 18:13.57 | CIA-33 | auctioneer: now been removed from BeanCounterFrames.lua and BeanCounterStrings.lua has been |
| 18:13.58 | CIA-33 | auctioneer: updated. |
| 18:14.15 | ^nbot | Task 03BCNT-234 10Anaral: Added an apostrophe to TT_SearchBox, to match the localizer.06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-234 10Anaral: Hirsute did the logical thing and made a new string, so a... |
| 18:15.15 | ^nbot | Task 03BCNT-234 10Anaral: Added an apostrophe to TT_SearchBox, to match the localizer.06 (04Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-234 10Anaral: Hirsute did the logical thing and made a new string, so a... |
| 18:28.49 | CIA-33 | auctioneer: 03brykrys * r4028 10Auc-Advanced/CoreScan.lua: Updates [ADV-404]: Adjust scanned data in certain rare cases, to reduce problems elsewhere |
| 18:30.15 | ^nbot | Bug 03ADV-404 10Nechckn: AucAdvanced.API.QueryImage(\{ itemId = id \}) is currently returning items without a bid value, which it shouldn't be doing06 (04In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-404 10brykrys: r4028: as proposal above |
| 18:32.28 | ScratchMonkey | is there any problem with another addon reading data from CP? I'm using Altoholic and it seems like a duplication of effort to have it keeping its own recipe DB when it can piggyback on CP's |
| 18:32.55 | Anaral | CP? |
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| 18:39.31 | jed1 | I'd like to find out more regarding the QA and Technical Writer positions |
| 18:40.12 | Hirsute | ScratchMonkey: CP? |
| 18:40.33 | Nechckn | The "official" QA positions are currently full. But, for tech writing, basically we need some folks to help add documentation to the Wiki and then, at a later date, help with in-game help and such. |
| 18:41.59 | jed1 | OK. Is there a particular format that is being used? |
| 18:42.38 | Nechckn | Not at the moment, we are keeping it as simple as possible, so that folks can easily load them in-game, etc |
| 18:43.32 | jed1 | Fair enough. Is there a team involved in this or is this a single entry position? What is approval process? |
| 18:44.39 | Nechckn | Unlike many sites with "glitzy" setups where people can barely load if they are running "the game" |
| 18:44.56 | jed1 | My Background is Validation Engineer in Telecom. Including feature documentatioin review from Design, development and execution of test plan, and review and edits of customer visible documentation - creating procedures at times where non exist. |
| 18:45.37 | Nechckn | Well, that is one more reason for the simplicity - we have a number of people that work on them, but it's only when they have time from doing other tasks on the team and then, those evil job things, etc |
| 18:46.01 | Nechckn | http://Wiki.Norganna.Org is the main page, the current focus is on updating the Auctioneer subsection |
| 18:47.08 | jed1 | It sounds very rewarding to me. I play wow for relaxation and fun and have found auctioneer to be one of my prized addons. Would be a pleasure to contribute to its success. |
| 18:47.32 | Nechckn | Oh good, well, the actual technical details are yet to be covered, currently it's the end-user documentation but we would like to move on to more of the 'nuts and bolts' once that is done. |
| 18:48.26 | Nechckn | One area that the information is present, but the format needs help atm is http://wiki.norganna.org/AucAdvanced/Screens |
| 18:48.43 | Nechckn | Are you familiar with wikis at all? |
| 18:48.49 | jed1 | Is there a formal location where information is exchanged or is this the medium of chioce? |
| 18:49.05 | jed1 | Slightly. But can figure it out. |
| 18:49.30 | Nechckn | Well, for most things, here is the "best" place, just because our team tends to monitor it more closely than the forums |
| 18:49.32 | jed1 | There are sites for creating your own wiki...so I can test something there first without risking this site |
| 18:49.42 | jed1 | gotcha |
| 18:50.14 | Nechckn | That said, if it's something very detailed, you can post in http://forums.norganna.org/38/ if you like, too |
| 18:50.50 | Nechckn | that's the actual "documentation" discussion on the forums |
| 18:51.03 | jed1 | ok. Is this open to public or what is the process for acceptance to the community? |
| 18:51.51 | Nechckn | You need an account on http://forums.norganna.org/ to get access to the wiki, Jira, our issue tracker, et cetera |
| 18:52.28 | Nechckn | For now, you can make the changes, then post a message asking me or Anaral to review it... |
| 18:52.35 | jed1 | Not sure how formal or informal the interview is for technical writers on this. So start out by signing up for account on the forum first. |
| 18:52.58 | Nechckn | Nah... we're very easy going, in general |
| 18:53.28 | jed1 | Ok. I'll start by reviewing whats there first and getting familiarized with content before moving to additions and edits. |
| 18:53.43 | Nechckn | that sounds good |
| 18:54.25 | Nechckn | There is usually someone around nearly 24.7 on here, so if you have a question about a specific feature or function, just yell. |
| 18:55.12 | Nechckn | Oh.. you can also do a /join #Norganna-Dev that is our "developer channel" so we don't bug folks with details that they don't care to know =) |
| 18:55.16 | Hirsute | And ping Nechckn repeatedly if no one's answering. He likes it when people wake him up. |
| 18:55.27 | Hirsute | >,> |
| 18:55.30 | Hirsute | <,< |
| 18:55.32 | Nechckn | grr... |
| 18:55.41 | Nechckn | I know where you live, YOU!! |
| 18:55.42 | jed1 | lol |
| 18:55.56 | Hirsute | Nechckn: You do? |
| 18:55.58 | Nechckn | well, at least the general area |
| 18:56.00 | Hirsute | Creepy... |
| 18:56.00 | jed1 | I'm in Dallas Texas - Central time. |
| 18:56.11 | Hirsute | Heh |
| 18:56.14 | Nechckn | Tehre aren't that many people there... I'll just slaughter them all |
| 18:56.22 | Nechckn | Ah.. dallas, cool |
| 18:56.53 | jed1 | If your going to do any slaughtering...leave the cute ones. :P |
| 18:57.04 | Nechckn | Go ahead and join the dev channel, jed1 Just enter /join #Norganna-Dev |
| 18:57.19 | Hirsute | Nechckn: Not that many people? There's at least a couple million. |
| 18:57.35 | jed1 | Its something to do. lol |
| 18:57.38 | Hirsute | Or did you mean on campus proper? |
| 18:57.56 | Nechckn | Pfft.. there were only 2 million at the mall last Tuesday, I could'a taken them out |
| 18:58.10 | brykrys | hmm, think of the xp |
| 18:58.18 | Hirsute | Heh. Well, lunch time. Later all |
| 18:58.25 | Hirsute | skives off to eat |
| 18:58.37 | Nechckn | lol... but they were "mostly" unarmed, I think many would have been grey to me |
| 18:59.36 | jed1 | lol. I get that feeling alot. |
| 18:59.40 | brykrys | just make sure you don't end up pulling the elite guards |
| 19:00.05 | Nechckn | indeed... and there were quite a few who were at least at the silver dragon level =) |
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| 19:10.44 | ScratchMonkey | crap, sorry, was mixing up addons, was thinking CharacterProfiler for WoWRoster, and confusing it with norganna's stuff |
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| 19:16.01 | Checkmate1 | Hi |
| 19:16.09 | Anaral | Allo |
| 19:16.38 | Checkmate1 | Are you still recruiting? |
| 19:17.09 | Anaral | Our official QA positions are full, but we still need technical writers. |
| 19:17.27 | Checkmate1 | And developers? |
| 19:17.40 | Anaral | Essentially people to flesh out our wiki and make it a resourceful as possible. |
| 19:17.46 | Anaral | Developers always |
| 19:17.53 | Anaral | Do you have lua experience? |
| 19:18.31 | Checkmate1 | Not much. I just dig into some of the addons trying to understand them... |
| 19:19.09 | Checkmate1 | mainly to know what to change to allow them to work in Spanish. |
| 19:19.34 | Checkmate1 | I have plenty experience in other languages... |
| 19:20.38 | Nechckn | Lua isn't really that hard to pick up |
| 19:21.09 | Nechckn | what we can do is add you as a junior developer and then go from there |
| 19:21.19 | Checkmate1 | I have read a bit in wiki about it, and doesn't seem too complex |
| 19:22.01 | Checkmate1 | I have experience on object programing, patterns, corba, so this must be much easier. XD |
| 19:22.28 | Nechckn | if you like, enter a /join #Norganna-Dev and we can go over the basics |
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| 19:59.33 | napsilan | hello |
| 20:00.22 | Nechckn | greetings |
| 20:00.41 | napsilan | I'm getting a bug when I try to do the fast getall scan |
| 20:00.57 | Nechckn | ~norgbug napsilan |
| 20:00.58 | purl | Hi napsilan, in order to report your bug here, simply select and copy the text in the Swatter bug details box (use "/swat show" if you've already closed it), and go to http://norganna.pastey.net ; Once you're there, paste your bug into the box, submit and paste the resultant URL into the chat. Thanks! |
| 20:01.06 | Nechckn | Please, =) |
| 20:01.21 | napsilan | past the entire thing into irc? |
| 20:01.39 | napsilan | oh nm, pastey |
| 20:01.40 | Nechckn | no.. into http://norganna.pastey.net |
| 20:02.01 | Nechckn | After you "paste" it there, let us know the URL it assigns here |
| 20:02.33 | napsilan | http://norganna.pastey.net/107243 |
| 20:02.54 | napsilan | I'm guessing that nuking the purchased SV file might fix it |
| 20:03.03 | napsilan | but that's the data I value the most >< |
| 20:03.40 | Nechckn | did you recently /auc clear <item> on anything? |
| 20:03.55 | napsilan | only /auc command I've used is /auc about |
| 20:04.10 | Nechckn | hrm... and you've had Auctioneer installed for a while? |
| 20:04.16 | napsilan | ~2 weeks? |
| 20:04.20 | Nechckn | ok |
| 20:04.38 | napsilan | wiped all the folders on reinstall like the wiki said to |
| 20:05.14 | napsilan | errors out during phase 3 after a fast getall, doesn't happen after a regular slow scan |
| 20:05.52 | Nechckn | First thing... do this... |
| 20:06.20 | Nechckn | in ..\WorldofWarcraft\WTF\Account\<YourWoWAccountName>\SavedVariables |
| 20:06.32 | Nechckn | look for and delete auc-scandata.lua |
| 20:06.49 | Nechckn | then start up wow, try to scan.. see if it works for you then |
| 20:06.52 | napsilan | how much of my past data will that remove? |
| 20:07.00 | Nechckn | nothing |
| 20:07.06 | Nechckn | it's just the current snapshot |
| 20:07.10 | napsilan | ok, doing that |
| 20:07.18 | Nechckn | is hoping it's just corrupt and causing issues elsewhere |
| 20:08.33 | napsilan | yah, I figured that deleing all the auc SV files would fix it, but I'd be stuck dead in the water for a couple days |
| 20:08.53 | napsilan | ok relogging |
| 20:09.01 | napsilan | and running a getall |
| 20:09.05 | Nechckn | Yeah.. hopfully you won't need to |
| 20:09.24 | Nechckn | it could be a couple others, but let's hope that's it |
| 20:09.39 | napsilan | got a warning--overwriting aucscandata with aucadvancedscansimpledata |
| 20:09.50 | Nechckn | that's fine |
| 20:10.12 | napsilan | stage 2 seems to be taking longer after that |
| 20:10.24 | napsilan | probably needs to recalculate everything |
| 20:10.44 | napsilan | are you a dev for the addon? |
| 20:11.15 | Nechckn | All of the folks with the @ (op) thing are on the team |
| 20:11.27 | napsilan | ah. wow that's quite a few |
| 20:12.26 | Nechckn | There are about 20 total, who work on different parts of Auctioneer, Gatherer, Enchantrix, and the rest of the Auc Suite |
| 20:12.42 | napsilan | that's pretty impressive |
| 20:12.55 | Nechckn | we are all volunteers, so work and other stuff usually cuts down the time we have to actually "do" much =) |
| 20:13.13 | napsilan | no errors this time. Phase 3 was only up for half a second |
| 20:13.35 | Nechckn | Cool... did you get the "end of scan summary" |
| 20:13.44 | napsilan | x new items, x filtered items |
| 20:13.45 | napsilan | yah |
| 20:13.49 | Nechckn | okey dokey |
| 20:13.55 | Nechckn | You should be all set, then |
| 20:14.08 | Nechckn | That one file can cause all sorts of havoc |
| 20:14.15 | napsilan | thank you very much. Do you have time for one more quick question? |
| 20:14.25 | Nechckn | so, if you run into issues, zapping it won't really hurt anything else |
| 20:14.39 | napsilan | perhaps having a button in the options someplace to delete it might be useful (with appropriate warnings) |
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| 20:15.33 | Leak | hi al i have a little Question what do i need to use to sell my items Appraiser or Post |
| 20:15.34 | napsilan | more of a bug report really. The resale (maybe just realtime) searcher doesn't seem to like to work when I set it to use the "purchased" price |
| 20:16.02 | napsilan | appraiser |
| 20:16.05 | napsilan | post is the older one |
| 20:16.11 | Nechckn | Well, it doesn't happen often, is the thing. If you remove it, you won't get good purchased data, so we don't want folks doing it all too often. |
| 20:16.49 | Leak | but when i did Appraiser it says to sell Bronze bars for 1.19g when there up from 6g to 15g |
| 20:16.59 | napsilan | ok so i won't get purchased data for the next day or two? |
| 20:17.05 | Nechckn | If you have been working with it for about 2 weeks.. you'll need more time to get much out of that, and to scan twice a day |
| 20:17.15 | napsilan | yah I do that |
| 20:17.21 | Nechckn | Well, purchased works by watching what has been removed from the AH |
| 20:17.28 | napsilan | Leak, what does it say the market price is? |
| 20:17.39 | napsilan | yup I read about that |
| 20:17.48 | Nechckn | So, if you only go once per day, then it really can't tell if it's "gone" or not. |
| 20:18.06 | napsilan | Leak, do you have the price matching option checked as well? |
| 20:18.32 | Leak | dont realy know just used actioneer 3days ago |
| 20:18.37 | Leak | been scanning since |
| 20:18.44 | Nechckn | As napsilan says, you can use either one. Most folks tend to lean toward Appraiser since it provides a bit more information/functionality |
| 20:19.05 | napsilan | have you been scanning the AH the last couple days while you had it? |
| 20:19.09 | Nechckn | If you only installed then, you should really not use any of the values suggested, unless it is for veery high volume items |
| 20:19.10 | Leak | yea |
| 20:19.17 | Nechckn | like cloth or enchanting materials... |
| 20:19.25 | Leak | yea |
| 20:19.26 | Leak | all of it |
| 20:19.31 | Leak | takes arround 10/15mins |
| 20:19.34 | napsilan | mouse over the bars, what does it say the market value is? |
| 20:19.43 | Nechckn | We normally recommend 2 scans per day for a week before you give much thought to the suggested prices |
| 20:20.05 | Leak | 1.56 |
| 20:20.15 | napsilan | Personally, I trust the "purchased" prices the most, but that requires twice daily scanning |
| 20:20.29 | napsilan | sounds like the prices just changed quickly when you don't have a lot of data points |
| 20:20.41 | napsilan | in the "appraiser |
| 20:20.47 | napsilan | interface, check "enable price matching" |
| 20:20.48 | Leak | but the lowest of a 20stack = 6.80g and highest = 15g |
| 20:21.13 | napsilan | how many do you have in your stack? |
| 20:21.24 | Leak | 20 lol |
| 20:21.44 | napsilan | ok, what happens to the suggested price when you enable price matching? |
| 20:22.16 | Leak | where can i click that? |
| 20:22.22 | napsilan | the appraiser tab |
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| 20:22.32 | napsilan | right above the suggested prices |
| 20:22.54 | eobet | how can I get back the standard Blizzard auction list look while using auctioneer? |
| 20:22.56 | Leak | k1 sec |
| 20:23.07 | napsilan | disable "compact ui" in the options |
| 20:23.33 | napsilan | @eobet |
| 20:23.41 | Leak | now it says 0.38g... |
| 20:24.00 | napsilan | that's per item |
| 20:24.15 | Leak | how do i see my total than? |
| 20:24.22 | napsilan | so 20x.38=7.6g per stack of 20 |
| 20:24.30 | eobet | napsilan: lovely, thanks! I was getting worried that I had to find a replacement for auctioneer there for a while :) |
| 20:24.43 | Nechckn | Leak The total really doesn't matter, since Auc will give you all of the pricing as per item in the tooltips, etc |
| 20:24.56 | Leak | so 1bar price |
| 20:25.02 | napsilan | the extra "auction detail" window on the right side will show the numbers for the total stack |
| 20:25.03 | Nechckn | But... if you "really" want to know, look in the right-hand window of Appraiser, it will show the "stack" price |
| 20:25.51 | Leak | okay but i thought before it was all good and i sold it than i got my mail with the gold and it was only 1.19 so what happend there? |
| 20:26.05 | Leak | dint i had the matching pirce checked? |
| 20:26.07 | napsilan | did you have price matching enabled? |
| 20:26.39 | napsilan | also, in the options window for the "undercut" match module, you can set just how far you will let the price match raise or lower the price |
| 20:27.25 | Leak | k i think i got it now :D |
| 20:27.32 | Leak | ty for ur help ,# |
| 20:27.34 | Leak | <3 |
| 20:27.37 | napsilan | you're welcome |
| 20:27.39 | Nechckn | The defaults are pretty conservative, and usable, only change those once you are sure you want to go lower or higher. |
| 20:27.56 | napsilan | I have mine set at -40% markdown and 30% markup, and I'm content with it |
| 20:28.06 | napsilan | the market price estimates are always a little high |
| 20:29.26 | Nechckn | which statistics do you have enabled? |
| 20:29.45 | napsilan | I have all except ilvl and wowecon. But I only show the purchased stats in the tooltip |
| 20:29.56 | napsilan | oh, you were talking to leak, woops |
| 20:30.02 | MattBnr | i have yet to even use purchased or sales i done even knwo what they do |
| 20:30.04 | Nechckn | Okay, that will give you the most well rounded Market PRice |
| 20:30.19 | Nechckn | Nah.. that was to you napsilan |
| 20:30.22 | Nechckn | =) |
| 20:30.50 | Cera | the beancount matcher can help a lot with adjusting the prices to what they actually sell for and then the undercut matcher helps make sure that you're pricing it similar to the competition |
| 20:30.56 | Nechckn | The markets keep going up and down with these small patches and such... so the prices are more volatile |
| 20:31.09 | MattBnr | i love beancount |
| 20:31.19 | napsilan | yah, enchant scrolls have been dropping quite a bit on my realm |
| 20:31.26 | Nechckn | That was going to be my next question for you napsilan if you use the Beancount Matcher |
| 20:31.56 | Nechckn | If so, in the basic Auctioneer settings, ensure that it goes Matcher Beancount and then Matcher Undercut |
| 20:32.04 | napsilan | yes I use beancount. think I have it set at like +3% for sales and -4% for expirations |
| 20:32.28 | Nechckn | check that order, if it's the opposite, you can see "odd" pricing |
| 20:32.35 | MattBnr | i woudl think you shoudl have your success higher or your prices are gonan contiually drop |
| 20:32.45 | Cera | you'll have to play with those numbers depending on the market |
| 20:32.59 | napsilan | I have undercut as first priority, then beancount second |
| 20:33.07 | MattBnr | benacount first always |
| 20:33.09 | Nechckn | Yeah.. change those |
| 20:33.24 | napsilan | really? I've been pretty happy so far as is |
| 20:33.25 | Nechckn | That is likely why your prices are coming out "not quite right" |
| 20:33.50 | Nechckn | Well- it's really up to you, but in general, it's best to have them so that they function as Cera mentioned a moment ago |
| 20:34.06 | Nechckn | if it's backwards, you can get some prices that don't look right |
| 20:34.08 | napsilan | I think Leak was the one asking about that, the only thing I mentioned was that my market value estimates tended to just be a tad high |
| 20:34.29 | Cera | if you sell stuff that is rare then it may fail to sell for weeks even though eventually it will sell high as an example |
| 20:35.00 | Nechckn | napsilan Well, this is all about when you place the items up for sale, the price Auc will recommend |
| 20:35.26 | Nechckn | if you have it as Beancount then Undercut - they are usually spot-on. |
| 20:35.35 | napsilan | I'll give that a try |
| 20:36.15 | Nechckn | Prices, overall, have been dropping, so it's not all the odd, right now, for the Market Price to be a bit high |
| 20:36.15 | Leak | what does beancount doe |
| 20:36.27 | napsilan | keeps track of all the stuff you bought and sold |
| 20:36.35 | Nechckn | but those matchers will help get the prices in-line as they even out |
| 20:36.36 | Cera | it keeps track of your sales/fails |
| 20:37.15 | Leak | do i need to check: Enable auc-match-beancount to let it work or does it auto work |
| 20:37.23 | napsilan | I'm still up a couple thousand over 2-3 weeks, so I can't be screwing it up too badly |
| 20:37.30 | Cera | it has to be enabled |
| 20:37.51 | Cera | for the matcher to work |
| 20:37.53 | Leak | and what i do with the Failur and Succed % |
| 20:38.03 | Nechckn | napsilan Gotcha - and it is just a suggestion, try it for a couple of days, if the prices seem way off, change it back |
| 20:38.19 | napsilan | really dumb question, how do you do private messages like that? |
| 20:38.19 | Leak | like a few % less when it dint sell and a % up when it got selled? |
| 20:38.20 | Nechckn | Leak all of the defaults should be fine |
| 20:38.21 | Cera | the matcher will adjust the prices you post auctions based on your sales/fails for the item |
| 20:38.31 | MattBnr | private message |
| 20:38.32 | MattBnr | ? |
| 20:38.46 | Nechckn | napsilan type the few first letters in the name, then hit tab |
| 20:38.51 | napsilan | or does it just highlight anything with my name first? |
| 20:38.58 | Nechckn | it isn't a PM, it just "addresses" it |
| 20:38.59 | MattBnr | its jsut that your name has been said |
| 20:39.21 | Nechckn | for MattBnr, type mat then hit tab, for instance |
| 20:39.26 | napsilan | ah, ok. I don't use IRC much |
| 20:39.37 | MattBnr | ahh a yellow line |
| 20:39.47 | MattBnr | smacks Nechckn with a stick |
| 20:39.57 | MattBnr | ~whalecrit Nechckn |
| 20:39.58 | purl | ACTION crits Nechckn with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Nechckn dies |
| 20:40.14 | Nechckn | yawns... stay away, young one. |
| 20:40.45 | napsilan | Nechckn thank you very much for your help with all that. I'll try to stick around and pay it forward for a while |
| 20:40.53 | Anaral | Aww, it doesn't autogenerate an emotion if you leave the /me blank. |
| 20:40.59 | Nechckn | hehehe np, napsilan |
| 20:41.04 | Nechckn | happy to help |
| 20:41.10 | Leak | whats Batch Post |
| 20:41.21 | Leak | if read it on the wiki but dont quit understand it |
| 20:41.49 | MattBnr | you enable it on the items you sell alot. |
| 20:41.56 | Cera | it's to help post all the things that you always put up |
| 20:42.03 | MattBnr | then you hit ctrl alt shift and hit batch post and it will auto post all your items for you |
| 20:42.20 | Anaral | Like tradegoods of cloth, leather, metal, etc. |
| 20:42.22 | Cera | VERY handy for inscription and enchanting |
| 20:42.30 | MattBnr | enchant mats |
| 20:42.31 | Leak | sweet |
| 20:42.53 | napsilan | from my experience, the market price estimate for enchant mats is high because they don't have a listing fee |
| 20:43.11 | Leak | but does it auta like (reminds) it when i jsut hit post items |
| 20:43.42 | MattBnr | what |
| 20:43.44 | napsilan | oh, is there a way to get automagic to automatically grab all the items from the mailbox? manually looting 2 pages of mail is annoying |
| 20:43.56 | MattBnr | autmagic no. i use postal for that |
| 20:44.01 | Cera | napsilan that's what the matchers are for, they'll help reduce the price to what the current competition is |
| 20:44.04 | napsilan | ah, I'll look into that |
| 20:44.26 | napsilan | yah, but the enchantrix estimates for DE'ing might be off if you use it |
| 20:44.31 | napsilan | I'm not an enchanter so I don't know for sure |
| 20:44.39 | Leak | easy mail i use |
| 20:45.17 | MattBnr | i use to use easy mail but postal is faster i think plus you can change the speed it opens mail |
| 20:45.35 | MattBnr | and you can have it only open certain kinds of mail |
| 20:47.24 | Nechckn | You can set Enchantrix to use the Auctioneer data - which we recommend. The "default database" is only very general and never changes. |
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| 20:47.54 | Nechckn | But Enchantrix is mighty handy if/when you have an Enchanter =) |
| 20:51.22 | napsilan | I meant the auctioneer market price estimates for enchanting mats |
| 20:51.44 | Leak | so |item value calculation from| needs to be on market? |
| 20:51.48 | napsilan | still a bit high since people can pollute the AH with really high prices for free |
| 20:54.09 | Nechckn | napsilan oh, yeah.. they usually go up and down quite a bit(usually up) since there is not that "deposit penalty" for listing high |
| 20:54.18 | Leak | when i buy stuff out like Linnecloth and bought them for 40s when the are for 1.5/2g do i need to rescan AH so i get the prices? |
| 20:54.28 | Nechckn | Leak It doesn't "have" to be, but that is usually the smartest bet |
| 20:54.30 | MattBnr | i use appraiser for enchantrix |
| 20:54.56 | napsilan | hit the "refresh" button on appraiser, it will update the prices for just that item |
| 20:55.14 | MattBnr | or alt refresh will do all your bags |
| 20:55.43 | Nechckn | In general, you should scan the AH when you get onto whichever realm/faction for the day - use the "getall" scan, the "fast forward" button at the top of the Browse Frame |
| 20:56.09 | Nechckn | That will get you pricing for every item currently on the AH |
| 20:56.12 | MattBnr | and i recomend a scan before you log out also |
| 20:56.44 | Nechckn | If it is over a half hour or so between when you scanned and when you are posting, then you can use the Refresh to get the most current pricing |
| 20:57.26 | Nechckn | Then, as MattBnr said, during your first week or 2, be sure to scan at least one other "full" scan while you play |
| 20:57.45 | Nechckn | It's usually best just before you log off, to ensure you scan the most items possible |
| 20:58.35 | Nechckn | As you are doing this, watch those prices for the lower/mid level items, so then you get a feel for what is a "decent" price |
| 20:59.03 | Nechckn | That way, you are in a better position to make decisions about what is worth buying and what is worth passing by. |
| 20:59.13 | napsilan | I actually check the wowhead AH price estimate if I need more info as well, it seems to be fairly accurate |
| 20:59.23 | MattBnr | there is a addon for that now |
| 20:59.32 | MattBnr | goingprice wowhead and going price alahazah |
| 20:59.37 | napsilan | really? |
| 20:59.38 | MattBnr | alakazham |
| 20:59.43 | MattBnr | yeha i sue it its awesome |
| 20:59.46 | Nechckn | Yeah.. Wowhead, Thottbott, and Allakhazam all have "okay" pricing. |
| 20:59.46 | MattBnr | use* |
| 21:00.05 | napsilan | does it have it's own executable that need to be run to update it? |
| 21:00.11 | MattBnr | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/SearchResults.aspx?q=going |
| 21:00.15 | MattBnr | nope |
| 21:00.19 | Nechckn | Those are updated every so often |
| 21:00.26 | MattBnr | every day actually |
| 21:00.43 | napsilan | interesting |
| 21:00.53 | MattBnr | you have to have the bottom one as that is the main program then either of the other 2 i use them both |
| 21:01.15 | MattBnr | wowhead is alot closer to prices then the other its way the hell off most of the time |
| 21:01.27 | MattBnr | alla is junk IMHO |
| 21:02.57 | Nechckn | Well, I know our push to get folks to help by using the addon has to have helped gather more "current" prices |
| 21:03.04 | Nechckn | for the wowhead one, anyway |
| 21:03.12 | napsilan | you work with wowhead as well? |
| 21:03.24 | Nechckn | Thottbott used to be nearly spot on, then sort of died becuase Cosmos went away |
| 21:03.31 | Nechckn | and the updater was part of it |
| 21:03.43 | Leak | i mosly scan just before i go to school and when i gotta eat and when i go to sleap |
| 21:03.45 | Nechckn | We have a data sharing agreement with them, yes, napsilan |
| 21:04.06 | Nechckn | That's a good start, then, Leak |
| 21:04.10 | napsilan | guessing that's how you get the vendor prices? |
| 21:04.19 | Nechckn | After a few more days, you should have some decent pricing |
| 21:04.30 | Leak | hope so :D |
| 21:04.32 | Nechckn | napsilan right now, yes |
| 21:05.31 | Leak | so goingprice is also a good addon to add to my list :p |
| 21:06.10 | Nechckn | and if you plan to do any crafting.. go to Wowace.com and get Little Sparky's Workshop and Skillet |
| 21:06.17 | Nechckn | ^^ both of those |
| 21:06.31 | Nechckn | They will make your crafting experience amazingly easy |
| 21:06.45 | napsilan | even as a tailor or smith? don't seem to sell much |
| 21:07.04 | Leak | got mining and enchanting |
| 21:07.06 | Nechckn | They'll help to show you which items can make $$ and which to avoid |
| 21:07.17 | Nechckn | also, which ones are the cheapest for "leveling" |
| 21:07.39 | MattBnr | curse has thsoe as well |
| 21:08.05 | Nechckn | yes, but not always the latest, only those marked "release" get pushed over to Curse |
| 21:08.38 | MattBnr | 11/23 is when lil sparkys workshop was last updated on curse |
| 21:08.59 | MattBnr | exact same on wowace |
| 21:09.20 | Nechckn | didn't say it wasn't |
| 21:09.38 | Nechckn | just that any betas/alphas do not get pushed to Curse |
| 21:09.42 | MattBnr | and skillet is the same too i think i cant find a date on it |
| 21:09.46 | Nechckn | they stay on WoWAce |
| 21:10.11 | napsilan | thought wowace wasn't hosting files anymore |
| 21:10.32 | Nechckn | It is, they are just subleased to Curse |
| 21:10.36 | Nechckn | =) |
| 21:11.12 | Nechckn | Basically, WoWAce or CurseForge are more for 'authors' while Curse is more for 'users' |
| 21:12.01 | Nechckn | betas and alphas do not get pushed to Curse, which, in general, is good... but if you want the latest and greatest, then you need to go all manual and check 'em at Wowace or CurseForge |
| 21:13.07 | MattBnr | i just dont like the layout of wowace |
| 21:13.23 | Anaral | Except Curse and CF aren't very user friendly, and whoever thought that font large enough nrrds to be shot. |
| 21:13.28 | MattBnr | i liek how curse has it all seperated by liek warrior, druid, death knight, buffs, action bars etc |
| 21:13.46 | Anaral | MattBnr: It's better than CF/Curse |
| 21:13.47 | Nechckn | Well, for categories, I like WoWInterface |
| 21:14.06 | Anaral | Aye WowI got it right |
| 21:14.07 | MattBnr | Anaral: no way |
| 21:14.15 | MattBnr | wowi i never liekd either |
| 21:14.30 | Nechckn | they take a bit more time or something about categorizing in a logical manner |
| 21:14.49 | Anaral | MattBnr: Youre just insane, that must be why |
| 21:15.04 | MattBnr | well yeah i am but i liek stuff seperated so its easy to find |
| 21:15.30 | Nechckn | The only thing I have ever missed on Wowace was pictures!!! |
| 21:15.32 | Anaral | so what wrong with wowinterface? |
| 21:15.43 | MattBnr | im sure i fi use it might liek it |
| 21:15.44 | Nechckn | It's hard to judge an addon without seeing what it does |
| 21:15.49 | MattBnr | i just dont liek it right now |
| 21:16.09 | Anaral | MattBnr: Why don't you? |
| 21:16.17 | MattBnr | cant put my finger on it |
| 21:16.23 | Anaral | Nechckn: Agreed |
| 21:16.37 | Leak | when im in |Search| mode right i see Profit | Buyout | bit - does the Profit means that if i buyout/bid the action i can resell it for the number that says in the |Profit| |
| 21:17.00 | Nechckn | Most likely not if you have only been scanning for 2-3 days |
| 21:17.00 | MattBnr | in a perfect world yes |
| 21:17.03 | Leak | like Buyout + Profit = sell = profit |
| 21:17.14 | Nechckn | You need to scan for longer before you trust the values |
| 21:17.35 | Leak | yea i know but i want ot know as much as there is so im ready when i got inough data |
| 21:18.31 | Leak | but i bid on a epic :D for 2g so (dont realy think so) when i winn it its a good deal right |
| 21:18.32 | Nechckn | Purchased Price - (Sales Price+Auction Fees) = Profit |
| 21:18.33 | MattBnr | plus i like the auto update feature of curse. |
| 21:18.44 | MattBnr | im lazy i dont want to search through 150 addosn to update |
| 21:18.56 | napsilan | I'm paranoid about running programs like that |
| 21:19.12 | MattBnr | curse? why |
| 21:19.15 | Nechckn | napsilan the folks behind it are very trustworthy |
| 21:19.22 | napsilan | yah I know |
| 21:19.26 | MattBnr | now wowmatrix on the other hand..... EVIL |
| 21:19.35 | napsilan | ./tinfoilhat |
| 21:19.37 | Nechckn | Just saying... though it is smart to be careful |
| 21:19.47 | Nechckn | in this case, you are pretty much okay. |
| 21:21.08 | Anaral | napsilan: Heck some of the people behind it are in this channel. ;) |
| 21:21.22 | MattBnr | ok on wowi i want stuff that will rate my gear where do i look? |
| 21:21.25 | napsilan | I didn't mean to offend |
| 21:21.35 | MattBnr | stuff liek geardps or tankpoints |
| 21:21.46 | Nechckn | napsilan nah, in general that is a good attitude |
| 21:22.01 | Anaral | Nah, just pointing out that there is noone behind the curtain |
| 21:22.15 | Nechckn | addons are red haired step children of the development world, so they are usually touchy as it is. |
| 21:22.47 | MattBnr | ohh and i jsut got a pop up from wowi that is a fail right there |
| 21:23.01 | Anaral | MattBnr: Combat mods |
| 21:23.19 | Anaral | Get AdBlock Pluss |
| 21:23.43 | MattBnr | i have a ad blocker im just saying i hate pop ups |
| 21:23.54 | Anaral | I've never seen an ad or popup from any addon site |
| 21:24.33 | Anaral | Do you have AB enabled? How are you getting popups? |
| 21:24.41 | napsilan | adblock plus is absolutely amazing |
| 21:24.45 | Nechckn | MattBnr type in "gear" in the "search" box |
| 21:25.04 | Nechckn | If you want something that specific |
| 21:25.33 | Nechckn | I don't use the blockers on the main sites I visit often |
| 21:25.58 | Nechckn | Just because I know that they need the revenue to continue providing such services and that it's not cheap. =) |
| 21:26.42 | Anaral | But I'll never click the ads, having them up, doesn't help them |
| 21:27.04 | Nechckn | It all depends on their contracts |
| 21:27.10 | MattBnr | yeah dont you actually have to visit the sites for them to get paid? |
| 21:27.14 | Nechckn | with many, it's based on the simple display |
| 21:28.07 | Nechckn | And for those that I "really" like, I'll actually click through and click around a bit |
| 21:28.10 | MattBnr | hee should we pull 5.00 auctioneer form wowi |
| 21:28.26 | Nechckn | again, not a guaranteed payment, but that's good enough for alot of them. |
| 21:28.55 | Nechckn | Click it, MattBnr |
| 21:29.31 | MattBnr | why not jsut remove it form the site? |
| 21:29.34 | MattBnr | from* |
| 21:29.52 | Nechckn | for those that have that as the "favorite" and use it to get to the current one |
| 21:30.03 | MattBnr | instead of hacing it redirect to another page to click to go to another page |
| 21:30.09 | MattBnr | oh lol |
| 21:31.07 | MattBnr | if wowi had a way to search for death knight specific addons i woudl use it but it dont so i wont |
| 21:31.21 | Nechckn | Um... |
| 21:31.33 | Nechckn | Click the "Class specific" addons |
| 21:31.58 | Nechckn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat39.html |
| 21:32.03 | MattBnr | found it |
| 21:32.05 | Nechckn | then click "Death Knight" |
| 21:32.08 | napsilan | I'm heading out. Thank you very much again Nechckn |
| 21:32.21 | Nechckn | napsilan np, we are all happy to help |
| 21:32.25 | Nechckn | Best of luck!! |
| 21:33.24 | Leak | what does Snatch do? |
| 21:33.30 | MattBnr | people need to stop making new rune displays. its annoying having liek 50 addons but there all about rune displays |
| 21:33.39 | MattBnr | its a like a grocery shopping list |
| 21:33.48 | Leak | cool xD |
| 21:33.49 | MattBnr | you put items and the price you want to pay for them and it look sfor those |
| 21:35.08 | Leak | well g2g all thnx for the info its a big help :P |
| 21:35.14 | Leak | Cya all |
| 21:35.16 | Anaral | Okay there are just some items that Alla and WoWHead need to wipe out their data... I have a lvl 60 DM priest quest book. WoWHead says 5g, somewhat believable, Alla says between 20-33g. |
| 21:35.34 | MattBnr | yeah |
| 21:36.09 | Nechckn | Anaral I have put in more than one suggestion that they simply combine their pricing into 1 stat |
| 21:36.27 | Anaral | It's only been seen once in the last 30ish days on my server for 1g |
| 21:36.43 | Nechckn | from allakhazam, wowhead, and thottbott but they don't like making $$, I guess. |
| 21:37.02 | MattBnr | yeah that reminds me to uninstall alla addon.... |
| 21:37.28 | Anaral | Yeah I've wondered why they're different, then again, in a historical kind of way, it's kind of neat to see what an item roughly went for in its prime. |
| 21:37.43 | Nechckn | were they to combine the info from all of their "updaters" they'd have a good price that people would "want" to see. |
| 21:39.43 | Anaral | Honestly, would it be that good? The average of the three combined for that priest book, for example, would be 17g, which is probably still way above what I'll be able to get for it. |
| 21:40.21 | Nechckn | Well, their data for other items is usually spot-on |
| 21:40.29 | Nechckn | so they have quite a few people running them |
| 21:40.47 | Nechckn | even when "changes" happen, they are usually reflected quite quickly |
| 21:41.13 | Nechckn | Besides all of that, how hard is it to run a /getall for each server once per day and then up that info yourself, right? |
| 21:42.06 | Nechckn | Reaching over 17 million users per month - per the Zam site |
| 21:42.24 | Nechckn | if they have even 1% that run the updater(s) then they should have great pricing |
| 21:42.51 | MattBnr | wow has 17 million users? |
| 21:44.25 | Nechckn | That's total visitors for their network of sites |
| 21:45.03 | Nechckn | if you wanted to break it down into how many are WoW people, it's probably quite a few, since they also have other languages for their sites, etc. |
| 21:45.19 | Nechckn | So, 1% is quite a safe guess |
| 21:46.57 | MattBnr | so zam basicly just has links going to other websites? |
| 21:48.31 | MattBnr | http://www.farpointforums.com/showthread.php?tid=822 sweet a wow movie |
| 21:51.52 | Nechckn | Um... zam owns wowinterface, allakhazam, thottbott, et cetera |
| 21:52.26 | MattBnr | oh ok |
| 21:52.37 | MattBnr | so they own those sites that why they have the links got it |
| 21:53.49 | Anaral | Nechckn: time for some "idiot type questions" If I have Processing Priority at 50% and Market Error at 0.080%, my prices should be pretty solid, correct? |
| 21:54.22 | Nechckn | meh... that's relative =) |
| 21:54.33 | Nechckn | but, they should be pretty good, yes |
| 21:54.40 | MattBnr | i have mine set at 100 and .001% |
| 21:56.33 | Anaral | How come everytime I go through my options most seem to have reset, especially the Outlier Options |
| 21:57.30 | MattBnr | did you hit the reset button? |
| 21:57.34 | MattBnr | i did that |
| 21:57.56 | Anaral | Not recently, no. ;) |
| 21:58.22 | Nechckn | We need the norgs to sit down and do some tweaking of the system anyway... |
| 21:58.26 | Nechckn | for the profiles |
| 21:58.35 | Nechckn | It's just sort of "odd" right now |
| 21:58.47 | Nechckn | Not saying that is your issue... |
| 21:59.00 | Nechckn | I've not seen any of mine changing |
| 21:59.13 | MattBnr | i dont use profiles at all never had the need for it |
| 21:59.28 | Nechckn | If you play on multiple servers, you should |
| 21:59.31 | Anaral | MattBnr: What do you have your Auc-Match-BeanCount setting at? |
| 21:59.49 | Nechckn | otherwise all of your manually-set APPR prices will be the same on every server. |
| 22:00.13 | MattBnr | i dont set prices manual |
| 22:00.24 | Anaral | Nechckn: I just use the Default. And I created one when I needed to test something on another server |
| 22:00.55 | MattBnr | http://up.norganna.org/index.php/vldUKrB/WoWScrnShot_012909_155948.jpg |
| 22:01.04 | Anaral | Some prices I do set manually, depending on how poorly they've not been selling using Auc's data. |
| 22:01.15 | MattBnr | i dont care enough |
| 22:01.30 | MattBnr | if they dont sell i just repost them after 10-15 times of not selling i vendor them |
| 22:01.40 | MattBnr | if vendor dont take them they get desroyed |
| 22:02.15 | Nechckn | Well, the pricing dbs are different per server but not that APPR data, which leads to alot of confusion |
| 22:03.07 | Nechckn | Good lord, son... you post the same item at a given price for up to a month?? |
| 22:03.18 | Anaral | Lol |
| 22:03.27 | Anaral | He's persistent. ;) |
| 22:03.28 | MattBnr | what? |
| 22:03.43 | MattBnr | oh yeah |
| 22:03.49 | Nechckn | coughs allowbiggercutsbymatcherBCNT coughs |
| 22:03.50 | Anaral | Then again, I figure he has 10times what I do now, so he must be doing something right. ;) |
| 22:04.19 | Nechckn | bbiab |
| 22:04.23 | MattBnr | Nechckn: those are the settings you told me to use *coughs up a plegm wad* |
| 22:04.57 | Nechckn | never would I tell anyone to post items for a month =) |
| 22:04.59 | Hirsute | So... I just got out of a lab where we were looking at lungs from people who died with/of Emphysema, COPD, Lung Cancer.... |
| 22:05.19 | Nechckn | That's the point of the manual setting.. if it's been a few reposts and it hasn't sold, drop that price. |
| 22:06.02 | MattBnr | it does that is the point of beancount. if it does sell it keep lowering the price |
| 22:06.07 | MattBnr | doesnt* |
| 22:07.01 | MattBnr | allow bigger cuts where? the under market, the fail number |
| 22:07.10 | Anaral | Hirsute: I imagine those things will make anyone think twice about smoking... |
| 22:07.14 | MattBnr | the minimum or the fail markdown |
| 22:07.30 | Hirsute | Anaral: And yet, we have 4 or 5 smokers in my class. |
| 22:07.33 | Anaral | My guess, MattBnr would be the Minimum, or last slider. |
| 22:07.48 | Hirsute | Time to see if Informant can live without embedded slidebar |
| 22:08.00 | Nechckn | MattBnr either that or just pay attention to the items that are not selling a bit better. |
| 22:08.15 | Nechckn | I know if I have something that doesn't sell twice, it "sticks out" |
| 22:08.18 | MattBnr | i have enough gold right now |
| 22:08.29 | Anaral | Hirsute: Hence why I said 'think', since most that smoke are stubburn mules who think they're the ones that don't need to quit. |
| 22:08.30 | MattBnr | i only play the ah for something to do |
| 22:08.48 | Hirsute | *nod* |
| 22:09.06 | Nechckn | MattBnr I gotcha, it just is wasting your cash on those things, that's all |
| 22:09.10 | MattBnr | ok fine ill lower it to 80% |
| 22:09.28 | MattBnr | i deal in enchant mats so no it dont :) no deposit |
| 22:09.29 | Hirsute | Granted, the demographics are far bettin in my class than the national average. 5 out of 110 is <5%. |
| 22:09.39 | Hirsute | National average is something like 30% |
| 22:09.39 | Nechckn | obviously, if it is moving too many, then just re-up it. |
| 22:09.54 | Hirsute | And that's lower than most of the rest of the world. |
| 22:10.18 | Nechckn | In many 3rd world countries that number is huge, Hirsute |
| 22:10.31 | MattBnr | and my auctions rarely get down to the 90% mark anyway |
| 22:10.43 | Anaral | Okay, the other idiot user question I have is, how do I decide ItemSuggest Recommendation Bias? |
| 22:10.48 | Nechckn | heck, the EU is just now finally dropping a big... it is usally extremely "smokey" there. |
| 22:10.54 | Hirsute | Nechckn: Highest in Asia, most Asian countries are 50-60% |
| 22:11.03 | MattBnr | move the sliders Anaral |
| 22:11.07 | Anaral | lol |
| 22:11.33 | Anaral | I don't mean how do I change their values, but how do I determine their bias. |
| 22:11.49 | Nechckn | Hirsute yeah, I'd believe that... especially the less developed ones. Most folks from teens to ancient are all walking around with one. |
| 22:11.52 | MattBnr | like as in you want vendor to have first shot at pricing a item? |
| 22:12.08 | Hirsute | *nod* |
| 22:12.15 | MattBnr | i guess i dont understand the question |
| 22:12.21 | Nechckn | Don't know on that one... I don't use AUIS, myself. |
| 22:13.13 | MattBnr | i jsut move the sliders around till it does what i want |
| 22:13.13 | Nechckn | simply because I would end up leaving them all at 100% on each server I'm on. |
| 22:13.13 | Nechckn | because I can D/E and all on each one |
| 22:13.13 | MattBnr | i have them all set at 100% but have vendor set a bit higher liek 105% so if i can make more on vendor then on resale ill vendor it |
| 22:13.13 | Anaral | *nods* |
| 22:13.27 | Nechckn | I had one where the D/E was down by 100%, then 90, 80, etc as my Enchanter moved up |
| 22:14.01 | MattBnr | i liek itemsuggest but dont entirely undersand hwo it works |
| 22:14.07 | Anaral | I've just noticed that items I could DE, where their DE value is more than the buy price that it still tells me to play |
| 22:14.13 | Anaral | MattBnr: Agreed |
| 22:14.20 | Nechckn | See... if we were to get Lilsparky to plug LSW data into something like IS, **then** it would be the AWESOME! |
| 22:14.31 | Anaral | Lol |
| 22:14.48 | MattBnr | well Anaral woudl you rather DE a item or try to resale it? |
| 22:14.50 | Nechckn | because then you could tell if each item is better to make stuff from it, toss it, D/E it, et cetera |
| 22:15.04 | MattBnr | i normally knwo that armor will not sell for shit so i ahve my relisting up to liek 10X |
| 22:15.32 | MattBnr | so it takes the 10 depostit cost in to account so 9/10 times it will suggest to DE a item |
| 22:15.44 | Anaral | Depends on how much the resale is. Some of these items, would only sell for 1-5g more |
| 22:16.28 | MattBnr | i guess it goes down to this: woudl you rather take the chance to resale a item if so how many times do yo normally have ot relist that item move the relisting slider to that area. |
| 22:16.47 | Anaral | MattBnr: 10x? Really? I had it 5x... before it reset, of course. |
| 22:17.06 | MattBnr | i lean toward the sure fire money so my vendor is my highest % followed by DE followed by resale with my relisting at 10X |
| 22:17.32 | MattBnr | i hate resale so i rarely want to do that so if it suggest even after all that i knwo its a godo deal to resale it |
| 22:17.49 | MattBnr | good* |
| 22:18.02 | Anaral | Lol |
| 22:18.32 | Anaral | I'll try 7.5%x, see where that takes me. How you get a half relisting, I'm not quite sure. |
| 22:18.47 | MattBnr | http://up.norganna.org/index.php/vPLfiba/WoWScrnShot_012909_161814.jpg my settings |
| 22:18.55 | MattBnr | cancels maybe? |
| 22:19.20 | MattBnr | but that still loses your deposit cost so yeah .5 is kinda pointless i think |
| 22:23.21 | MattBnr | gotta reboot |
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| 22:40.38 | Anaral | You know, the vendor searcher is a great way to get great resale items by bidding. Obviously works better when the auctions are short, but still. |
| 22:42.44 | Anaral | I keep wanting to lengthen the AH SearchUI window just like LilSparky's Skillet window |
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