| 00:00.09 | Firefly | 'allo, everyone. |
| 00:00.15 | SNiLD | most likely ace2 addons are causing the biggest of troubles |
| 00:00.25 | SNiLD | hey filcon |
| 00:00.26 | Firefly | Got a quick question, and it's probably a dumb one... |
| 00:00.28 | SNiLD | .. Firefly |
| 00:00.36 | SNiLD | bring it :S |
| 00:01.27 | Firefly | Its about Auctioneer. With the new patch, even after I get the newest version of it, Auc: ScanData isn't working. And, when I place my cursor over the items, it doesnt tell me Vendor Price, AH Prices, and what Prof the item is used for. |
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| 00:02.27 | Firefly | Any advice? |
| 00:02.50 | SNiLD | what version were you using previously? |
| 00:02.50 | Kandoko | ~help |
| 00:03.12 | Fidern | Can someone tell me how to post a single item, not the 2 or 3 in inventory, from the appraisal tab? |
| 00:03.33 | Nechckn | set the stack size to 1 |
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| 00:04.25 | Firefly | Umm, I'm not sure, SNiLD. I came back from 6 months of being gone. The one is use now is... |
| 00:04.49 | Firefly | AuctioneerSuite-5.1.3625 |
| 00:04.52 | Fidern | ok, thanks. btw. this was a great product... everyone uses it... and now everyone is complaining on my server. you guys need to slow down with the "improvements". two thoughts. if it works, don't fix it, and KISS - Keep It Simple S* |
| 00:04.54 | SNiLD | Firefly: did your previous version have a scan button on the browse page? |
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| 00:05.20 | Chase_0007 | before this new auctioneer .. i used to be able to mouse over and it show what each item was going for with a max amount and min amount .. and it doesnt show that anymore at all .. anyone know how to make this work? |
| 00:05.46 | SNiLD | Chase_0007: http://wiki.norganna.org/Adaptation_from_Auctioneer_Classic_to_Auctioneer_Advanced |
| 00:05.51 | SNiLD | check the part with tooltips |
| 00:06.38 | igeek | crap, i am getting moneyframe errors out the wazoo, and hitting scan button just shows "Auctioneer: Scanning all Weapon auctions." and nothing happens... *cry* |
| 00:06.53 | Chase_0007 | ok thanks |
| 00:06.56 | igeek | I have disabled almost all the other addons. lol |
| 00:07.01 | igeek | oh wait |
| 00:07.20 | igeek | now it is showing something else...like it paused a whgile or something |
| 00:07.32 | igeek | no, its dead |
| 00:07.42 | SNiLD | you killed it, you bastard! |
| 00:07.46 | igeek | lol |
| 00:08.10 | igeek | its running slooowwwwlllyyy, showing 1.24 auctions scanned per second. lol |
| 00:08.23 | SNiLD | really |
| 00:08.37 | igeek | yeah, never moved thgat slow before |
| 00:08.40 | igeek | ever |
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| 00:08.47 | SNiLD | i got 175 auctions/s /flex ;) |
| 00:09.05 | igeek | *throws a large trout and SNiLD* |
| 00:09.11 | igeek | *at |
| 00:09.38 | SNiLD | but it's the load on your server really ;) |
| 00:10.28 | igeek | Earthen Ring |
| 00:10.40 | igeek | proabbaly right, its high volume tonite |
| 00:10.40 | SNiLD | EU-Earthen Ring? |
| 00:10.44 | igeek | US |
| 00:10.48 | igeek | :( |
| 00:10.49 | SNiLD | ah |
| 00:10.57 | SNiLD | i used to play on EU-Earthen Ring |
| 00:11.41 | igeek | its up to 337 auctions scanned. lol |
| 00:11.51 | igeek | and says eta 4 min |
| 00:11.53 | SNiLD | you use the play button? |
| 00:12.06 | igeek | nope, the scan button at bottom. never have hit the play button |
| 00:12.08 | igeek | whats it do>? |
| 00:12.17 | SNiLD | wwwhat |
| 00:12.28 | SNiLD | the scan button is from auctioneer classic |
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| 00:12.33 | igeek | really? |
| 00:12.38 | SNiLD | which shouldn't even work with 3.0.2 anymore |
| 00:12.43 | igeek | oh shit |
| 00:12.48 | igeek | did i do something wrong? |
| 00:12.52 | SNiLD | well there's your problem ;) |
| 00:13.01 | igeek | i still have an auctioneer folder under addons folder |
| 00:13.23 | SNiLD | yeah you have to remove the Auctioneer etc. folders and other folders listed in http://wiki.norganna.org/Auctioneer/Installing |
| 00:13.25 | igeek | its red in my addons list, should i disable it? |
| 00:13.33 | igeek | ahh ok |
| 00:14.19 | igeek | lol, i feel like a complete tool |
| 00:14.50 | igeek | i am the one who always screams "RTFM" at my friends. lol |
| 00:15.00 | SNiLD | :) |
| 00:15.13 | SNiLD | there's been a lot of M lately in the wiki and forums |
| 00:15.51 | igeek | lol |
| 00:16.59 | SNiLD | i think i'll go get some Z though |
| 00:17.02 | SNiLD | it's 3 am ;) |
| 00:17.49 | igeek | later :) |
| 00:17.53 | igeek | and thanks :) |
| 00:17.57 | Firefly | Sorry, SNiLD. Was AFK. Trying to get it to work. And, yes it did. |
| 00:18.15 | Firefly | Had a scan button, but this one apparently doesn't... Not one that helps, anyway. |
| 00:18.53 | SNiLD | Firefly |
| 00:18.54 | SNiLD | http://wiki.norganna.org/Adaptation_from_Auctioneer_Classic_to_Auctioneer_Advanced |
| 00:18.59 | SNiLD | http://wiki.norganna.org/Auctioneer/Installing |
| 00:19.06 | SNiLD | kthxbye -> |
| 00:19.22 | igeek | thanks@! |
| 00:19.44 | Firefly | Thanks! |
| 00:19.50 | Kandoko | ~AC2AA |
| 00:19.51 | purl | Please read the article on upgrading from Auctioneer Classic to Auctioneer Advance at http://wiki.norganna.org/Adaptation_from_Auctioneer_Classic_to_Auctioneer_Advanced |
| 00:20.10 | Kandoko | yay my first purl addition that worked |
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| 00:37.38 | famicom | hey |
| 00:37.45 | famicom | could someone explain to me how the new searcher works |
| 00:37.59 | famicom | i've been having trouble using it to actually buy things |
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| 00:45.34 | cylest | lol well, i figured i would try coming here instead of posting reply after reply on the curse website. I got everything loaded finally and its working, but now i'm getting a bug. I came on this website to report it, but though i have done it before, i can not seem to find the place to report the bug now. |
| 00:54.18 | Nechckn | Awww... I missed Cylest |
| 00:55.20 | Nechckn | famicom first, were you using Auctioneer Classic, Advanced, or Full before updating? |
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| 00:56.19 | Nechckn | only reason I ask is if you did not convert the data from Classic, as per the notices here, on Curse, and on WoWInterface over the last 6 months... you will need to scan the AH for at least a few days to build up some reliable statistics |
| 00:56.42 | Firefly | Alright... For some reason Auc: ScanData on my Auctioneer is still not working. Any advice? |
| 00:56.48 | Nechckn | If you used Full or Advanced... you should be a bit better off.. and only need a day or two of scanning |
| 00:57.02 | Nechckn | Firefly how is it not working? |
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| 00:57.10 | famicom | hmmm |
| 00:57.13 | famicom | let me think |
| 00:57.19 | damacy | Are the price tooltips forever gone from Auctioneer? |
| 00:57.24 | famicom | i think it was advanced |
| 00:57.25 | famicom | but |
| 00:57.43 | famicom | it seems to me that auctioneer is using cached data |
| 00:57.46 | Firefly | Well, I liked the older one, where I could place my cursor over the item, showing its Vendor Price, AH Prices and Proffessions that it can be used for. |
| 00:57.50 | Nechckn | damacy nope- once you scan for a few days, you will be all set with a single "reliable" number in the tooltip |
| 00:58.12 | damacy | So the tooltips will magically reappear when Auctioneer has enough data? |
| 00:58.14 | Nechckn | You can also go into the configuration and activate over 20 different statistics |
| 00:58.37 | Nechckn | Click "Configure" on the Browse or Appraiser frame- then go into the Statistics subsection |
| 00:58.55 | Nechckn | some of the "simple" stats seem popular |
| 00:59.14 | famicom | how do i force auctioneer to remove items from it's cache rather than just deleting my database files |
| 00:59.44 | Nechckn | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:59.56 | famicom | riiight |
| 00:59.58 | Nechckn | the <item> can be the exact name or the link |
| 01:00.13 | famicom | what if i have 700 items and it's only for the searches |
| 01:00.18 | famicom | searcher* |
| 01:00.44 | Nechckn | Firefly did you get that about where to enable the stats? |
| 01:00.53 | Nechckn | same with damacy... |
| 01:01.10 | Nechckn | famicom I don't understand |
| 01:01.20 | famicom | Nechckn |
| 01:01.22 | Nechckn | are these things you have ignored? |
| 01:01.31 | damacy | OK, I've enabled lots of stats -- but not sure how they map to the old ones. |
| 01:01.32 | Nechckn | or things you have in the snatch list? |
| 01:01.36 | famicom | the searcher comes up with auctions of things i have bought out |
| 01:02.02 | Nechckn | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:02.25 | Nechckn | famicom once you scan again - those will be removed |
| 01:02.36 | famicom | full scan on single scan |
| 01:02.54 | damacy | I read that, and frankly, couldn't make heads or tails of it. :-( I just want to know what the suggested bid and buyout prices are for an item. I miss the simplicity of knowing that. Maybe I should just revert to old WoWEcon? |
| 01:02.58 | Nechckn | whichever works, really |
| 01:03.17 | Nechckn | damacy nope- once you scan for a few days, you will be all set with a single "reliable" number in the tooltip |
| 01:03.28 | Nechckn | That will be the Appraiser value |
| 01:03.42 | damacy | I have scanned for a couple of days. I have an MBO number... |
| 01:03.45 | Nechckn | it is rougly the same as the old recommended buyout- only it's much more accurate |
| 01:03.54 | damacy | ...for some items... |
| 01:04.04 | damacy | ...nothing for others. |
| 01:04.12 | Nechckn | damacy sounds about right |
| 01:04.15 | famicom | eh |
| 01:04.18 | famicom | it really isnt that bad |
| 01:04.20 | famicom | to be honest |
| 01:04.23 | famicom | it's an improvement |
| 01:04.44 | Nechckn | famicom I'd switch between /auc scan or the "play" button on the Browse frame |
| 01:04.55 | Nechckn | and try the "newer" /Auc GetAll |
| 01:05.18 | Nechckn | the getall is limited to once every 15 mins... but should scan most AHes in 5mins or less |
| 01:05.44 | Nechckn | note- it's always been sort of odd, for some folks it works perfectly each time- and a few cannot get it to work at all |
| 01:05.44 | famicom | limited in what way |
| 01:05.53 | damacy | Sigh. |
| 01:06.02 | damacy | What's an MBO number? |
| 01:06.08 | damacy | Something buy out? |
| 01:06.13 | famicom | Minimum buyout |
| 01:06.20 | Nechckn | yep |
| 01:06.20 | famicom | cheapest price you can buy out directly |
| 01:06.22 | damacy | What does that *mean*> |
| 01:06.31 | famicom | read ^^^ |
| 01:06.43 | Nechckn | If you hold the mouse over the selection it will tell you what it is |
| 01:06.52 | damacy | OK, maybe I'm going at this the wrong way. |
| 01:06.57 | Nechckn | That is the minimum price an item has been seen today |
| 01:07.06 | famicom | Nechckn it's kinda pointless dont you think |
| 01:07.27 | famicom | by the time you reach the AH it's sold out allready |
| 01:07.36 | Nechckn | if there were 20 auctions of silk cloth up- and you scanned them... whichever had the cheapest "Buy out" price would be listed as the MBO |
| 01:07.54 | damacy | I am looking at a sample tooltip. It tells me an enormous amount of information. All I want to know is auctioneer's recommended bid/buyout price. Does that information no longer exist? |
| 01:08.00 | Nechckn | famicom The idea is that you scan, then search right after |
| 01:08.22 | damacy | e.g. when I've got 1 bag slot left, is this thing worth picking up? |
| 01:08.31 | Nechckn | Damacy One more time.... After a few days, the Appraiser recommended price will appear |
| 01:08.43 | Nechckn | **that** is the recommended Buyout price |
| 01:08.46 | famicom | damacy scan for a few days |
| 01:08.57 | famicom | and it will appear automagically |
| 01:08.59 | Nechckn | When you go to the AH and click on the Appraiser tab... |
| 01:09.31 | Nechckn | You select the item you want to auction in the left column, then either look at the prices in the upper middle or change them, and then click Post |
| 01:09.35 | famicom | you know what auctioneer really needs |
| 01:09.38 | Nechckn | That's all there is to Appraiser |
| 01:09.41 | damacy | I will. I've been scanning since the patch. I promise I will. When I looked in the wiki at the example, I didn't see what I needed, so I'm wondering if I'll even know it when I see it. :-) |
| 01:10.02 | famicom | a setting called "never price item under purchase price" |
| 01:10.43 | Nechckn | damacy Read http://wiki.norganna.org/AucAdvanced/Tooltip |
| 01:10.58 | damacy | I have that open right now, in fact! |
| 01:11.01 | famicom | and a way to estimate auction cost based on historical relisting data |
| 01:11.02 | Nechckn | See at the top where it says "appraiser" with the price next to it |
| 01:11.08 | Nechckn | that is the price |
| 01:11.16 | Nechckn | the "main, suggested price" |
| 01:11.31 | damacy | BO or bid? |
| 01:11.41 | Nechckn | Buyout |
| 01:11.53 | Nechckn | but the bid price will show when you actually go to auction the item |
| 01:11.56 | damacy | Ah, ok. That's really all I was looking for. :-) |
| 01:12.02 | XThief | but in that case, the Appraiser is (fixed) |
| 01:12.07 | famicom | Appraiser (Market) x 1 |
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| 01:12.11 | XThief | it could be (market) or (medium) |
| 01:12.23 | Nechckn | XThief yep- it depends on the Appraiser pricing |
| 01:12.35 | XThief | which one is the best? |
| 01:12.37 | Nechckn | and, since damacy is using the new install, it's based on Market |
| 01:12.42 | XThief | i put it on median |
| 01:12.52 | damacy | I know lots of people have whined that it's too complicated, but really, it is. :-) There's new language (e.g. the word 'appraiser') with no clear definition of what it is or how it works. Not a gripe, just a suggestion for doc. |
| 01:12.58 | Nechckn | You can pick whichever you find is closer to your market rate |
| 01:13.15 | Nechckn | http://wiki.norganna.org/AucAdvanced |
| 01:13.20 | Nechckn | go there, damacy |
| 01:13.24 | famicom | damacy |
| 01:13.30 | Nechckn | click http://wiki.norganna.org/AucAdvanced/Screens |
| 01:13.31 | famicom | just shut up and figure it out yourself |
| 01:13.32 | famicom | goddamn |
| 01:13.39 | famicom | thats how i learned to use it |
| 01:13.40 | chris_0097 | so, i hate to bug you guys, but i'm having some dificulty with appraiser |
| 01:13.46 | Nechckn | then http://wiki.norganna.org/AucAdvanced/Screens/AppraiserTab |
| 01:13.59 | famicom | chris_0097 is this one of those things that could be solved by reading hte wiki? |
| 01:13.59 | Nechckn | that breaks down the whole Appraiser window for you |
| 01:14.00 | XThief | I usually use median and also see the purchased median |
| 01:14.09 | damacy | Wow. Nice. Sorry that the documentation doesn't make sense to me. Guess I'm not smart enough to use Auctioneer. |
| 01:14.15 | famicom | No |
| 01:14.26 | famicom | you are too fucktarded to read a document and google for the definition of some words |
| 01:14.27 | famicom | god |
| 01:14.29 | chris_0097 | specifically, when i select an item, for example silverleaf, and scan, i'm only seeing one auction out of the 3 pages that are actually there |
| 01:14.37 | damacy | I READ the documentation before I even installed the AddOn. It is not clearly written or organized, at least not in a way that works for me. |
| 01:14.37 | famicom | hmmm |
| 01:14.47 | famicom | chris_0097 same issue here |
| 01:14.57 | chris_0097 | other than that, it'd be fine :D |
| 01:15.08 | famicom | i was just told that you simply run a full scan again |
| 01:15.08 | Nechckn | damacy this is an all volunteer project- if you would like to help with the documentation, you are more than welcome to do so |
| 01:15.12 | famicom | and THEN run it |
| 01:15.34 | chris_0097 | but that was the biggest thing i used last time...i just let it scan existing auctions and it'd calculate the price from there |
| 01:15.47 | chris_0097 | but sicne it's not finding all the auctions, it's not using them in the calculations |
| 01:15.51 | chris_0097 | i'll try to do a full scan again.. |
| 01:16.09 | damacy | Nechckn: I'd love to. I actually write user documentation from tech doc for a living. If I had tech doc that made sense to me, and access to engineers, I could write a kickass "How to migrate from old Auctioneer to new Auctioneer" doc. In fact, I'd love to. |
| 01:16.17 | Nechckn | chris_0097 it may be ignoring them |
| 01:16.22 | damacy | Although I might be too much of a fucktard to pull it off. ;-) |
| 01:16.24 | Nechckn | check the Outlier filter section |
| 01:16.28 | chris_0097 | hmm...ok |
| 01:16.59 | Nechckn | damacy Okay, so what do you want to know Here we are |
| 01:17.35 | Nechckn | all of the settings have pop up help, there is the big ? in the upper right of the windows to provide even more help.. and there is the wiki and here. |
| 01:18.08 | damacy | I think the first and most important question is, how do I make NEW auctioneer do exactly what old Auctioneer did? |
| 01:18.11 | chris_0097 | Nechckn: i disabled outlier filtering altogether, and the same results |
| 01:18.25 | Nechckn | If you look at http://Forums.Norganna.Org there is a http://forums.norganna.org/3/ link |
| 01:18.29 | chris_0097 | it reports the correct number of auctions, but it just isn't taking them into account |
| 01:18.31 | damacy | Learning new Auctioneer is like learning a new language. It's important to be able to compare it to the language you already know. |
| 01:19.09 | Nechckn | damacy we had a group of 10-14 year olds use it- with the old wiki that was no where near as complete |
| 01:19.23 | Nechckn | so, it's written to that level at least |
| 01:19.46 | damacy | 10-14 year olds have a lot more time to try to figure it out themselves, I guess. |
| 01:19.50 | Nechckn | chris_0097 what do you mean it's not taking them into account, though? |
| 01:20.08 | Nechckn | damacy this was in a 4 hour period |
| 01:20.12 | Nechckn | not days or weeks |
| 01:20.34 | damacy | Like I have four hours to spend on learning how to re-use something I already knew how to use? |
| 01:20.53 | chris_0097 | may have figured it out |
| 01:20.54 | Nechckn | although surely not a scientific test... having 6 of them, 3 of whom do not play computer games be able to get it to work was quite good imnsho |
| 01:21.09 | famicom | damacy |
| 01:21.10 | famicom | hey |
| 01:21.14 | famicom | you write documents? |
| 01:21.22 | damacy | Indeed I do. |
| 01:21.37 | famicom | what kind of tech doc do you need? |
| 01:21.50 | damacy | The kind that maps old features to new features. |
| 01:22.26 | famicom | are you for hire? |
| 01:22.29 | damacy | "The new 'Appraiser' field in the tooltip is equivalent to the old recommended buyout price in the old tooltip." |
| 01:22.58 | damacy | (With an extra 'old') |
| 01:23.21 | damacy | Well, I work full time, so I don't freelance unless the money is good. |
| 01:23.32 | famicom | define "good" |
| 01:24.08 | damacy | $95+/hr for doc, $150+/hr programming |
| 01:25.45 | famicom | you know any X86 assembler |
| 01:25.45 | damacy | (Which is one reason I don't have four hours to spend on learning new stuff unless it's really important to me.) |
| 01:25.45 | Nechckn | Damacy Perfect, place the questions that are not covered in http://forums.norganna.org/3/ and we'll be happy to provide the answers for you to format and write up |
| 01:25.45 | Nechckn | We really appreciate it, this is awesome! |
| 01:26.28 | famicom | anyways |
| 01:26.41 | famicom | I pay people wages like that |
| 01:26.42 | Nechckn | The only thing is we need to start from the beginner perspective... not any sort of "this did that". There are numerous folks who have not played for a while and are returning |
| 01:27.04 | famicom | so my time is even more expensive in regards to answering relatively simple questions |
| 01:27.05 | famicom | :P |
| 01:27.06 | Nechckn | and those who never used Auctioneer at all. |
| 01:27.21 | damacy | s360 assembler...about 30 years ago. |
| 01:28.09 | damacy | Newbie doc might cover the needs of folks like me, too, who just want the basics. |
| 01:28.17 | Nechckn | Yep |
| 01:28.20 | damacy | How do I...? |
| 01:28.32 | Nechckn | and that's what alot of that on the Wiki is |
| 01:28.40 | Nechckn | it needs formatted and compiled |
| 01:28.48 | famicom | uhm |
| 01:28.54 | Nechckn | in a coherent manner |
| 01:28.57 | famicom | yeah |
| 01:29.01 | famicom | i was about to say that |
| 01:29.17 | damacy | Yeah, an FAQish format would serve it well. It's written like tech doc, from an engineering perspective, right now. |
| 01:29.24 | damacy | "Here's what Auctioneer can do." |
| 01:29.32 | damacy | What might help is, "Here's what YOU can do with Auctioneer." |
| 01:29.43 | famicom | its a god awfull kludge that needs to be compiled into something more useful |
| 01:29.47 | famicom | or sane for that matter |
| 01:30.04 | Nechckn | yep, look at the FAQ on the Wiki and the http://wiki.norganna.org/Adaptation_from_Auctioneer_Classic_to_Auctioneer_Advanced document |
| 01:30.09 | Nechckn | they have a lot of that |
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| 01:30.50 | Nechckn | I need to run for a bit.... been on for over 12 hours here, at Curse, and in our forums back later |
| 01:31.22 | damacy | Wow, hadn't seen that doc before. |
| 01:33.14 | damacy | It's really good! |
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| 01:35.10 | Sophiatet | ok, only main question, where is the scan button that used to be at the botom of the AH window? |
| 01:36.20 | damacy | It's the 'play' button at the top now. |
| 01:36.43 | damacy | There's a really great document I just got pointed to... http://wiki.norganna.org/Adaptation_from_Auctioneer_Classic_to_Auctioneer_Advanced |
| 01:38.18 | Sophiatet | ty |
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| 04:18.01 | Hirsute | purl, patchdayblues is <reply> http://forums.norganna.org/discussion/8100/patch-day-blues-an-upgrade-and-new-user-faq/#Item_1 |
| 04:18.02 | purl | Hirsute: okay |
| 04:18.10 | Hirsute | ~patchdayblues |
| 04:18.11 | purl | http://forums.norganna.org/discussion/8100/patch-day-blues-an-upgrade-and-new-user-faq/#Item_1 |
| 04:18.18 | Hirsute | Awesome. |
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| 04:43.42 | Aesir | There was an addon I had once that shows a grid display on screen to assist in aligning UI elements/frames. Someone here modified that addon to colorize the grid and fix something with the original. I can't recall the name of it. If anyone knows of what I speak about, please link me the files or the addon name. TIA |
| 04:47.28 | Aesir | nvm, finally found it. |
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| 06:44.53 | Edan | Hi all |
| 06:46.22 | Edan | Im trying to fugure out how to get the average woth of my stuff, i am searcing and searcing, but only vendor price is coming up (mouseover in bags) |
| 07:02.17 | Edan | Anyone awake? |
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| 09:43.46 | slow_0019 | hallo anyone here ? |
| 09:45.06 | slow_0019 | german or only englisch ? |
| 09:45.27 | Speeddymon | u am |
| 09:45.30 | Speeddymon | what you need |
| 09:45.59 | slow_0019 | i have the new auctineer advanced suite |
| 09:46.47 | slow_0019 | my problem is when i post a item to the ah, there is no "buy now" price |
| 09:47.32 | slow_0019 | so the other can only bid on my items |
| 09:47.37 | Speeddymon | dunno dude im not an author |
| 09:48.50 | slow_0019 | is there an option in auctioneer advynced to do this ? |
| 09:50.31 | Speeddymon | It's gotta be there, you have to set it up tho im sure.. |
| 09:51.16 | slow_0019 | but where i searched in the options for 3 hours, but not found it |
| 09:52.28 | Speeddymon | I just started playing again and havent looked at auctioneer in months, so im not sure. give me a bit to get a character to the ah and ill get back to you. assuming i remember, it is late here |
| 09:53.16 | slow_0019 | oh ok, i go to lunch ^^ |
| 09:53.51 | slow_0019 | thx for your help, i wait here |
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| 10:08.08 | slow_0019 | speedy where can i try version 5.2 ? i cant download it... |
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| 10:13.55 | cybersimo | hi guys |
| 10:14.04 | cybersimo | can any1 help me pls |
| 10:14.43 | cybersimo | i used auctioneer classic cause it had a button to find "competition" undercuts, how do i do that in auc-advanced |
| 10:16.14 | cybersimo | for example i post 20 auctions for 24 hour period, i log after 1 hour, do a full scan, then just tap competition and see if any1 has undercut me |
| 10:17.01 | cybersimo | any1? |
| 10:17.32 | cybersimo | is this chat working? i see only my messages? |
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| 10:57.50 | trubal | hi all! |
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| 11:22.57 | Niktau | Hi all.... |
| 11:23.33 | Niktau | i've some questions about new version of auctioneer, anybody can help me ? |
| 11:37.38 | SNiLD | Niktau: yes? |
| 11:37.51 | SNiLD | ~asktoask |
| 11:37.52 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 11:37.56 | Niktau | hi |
| 11:38.05 | Niktau | ok, no problem ;) |
| 11:38.20 | Niktau | in fact i use auctioneer for few option that it propose |
| 11:39.02 | Niktau | before, i'd a possibility to remeber the price of the elements i put to the selling house (i'm french sorry for my poor language) |
| 11:39.23 | Niktau | and now i don't see this possibility |
| 11:39.36 | SNiLD | Niktau: http://wiki.norganna.org/Adaptation_from_Auctioneer_Classic_to_Auctioneer_Advanced |
| 11:39.54 | SNiLD | it's called "Appraiser" tab now |
| 11:40.30 | Niktau | ok, i go look right now |
| 11:43.25 | Niktau | fat tab lol |
| 11:43.54 | Niktau | there are no option to have the precedent system ? |
| 11:47.32 | SNiLD | the what system? |
| 11:47.50 | SNiLD | oh the old auctioneer classic |
| 11:47.52 | SNiLD | no. |
| 11:50.58 | Niktau | yep, the presentation of the old system, bof, not a problem.. |
| 11:51.17 | Niktau | so, in the appraiser tab, it's possible to add or remove some columns ? |
| 11:51.39 | SNiLD | you can move the columns by holding right mouse button and moving them around |
| 11:51.49 | SNiLD | i'm not sure if you have remove them, probably not |
| 11:51.50 | Niktau | ok, rught mouse... |
| 11:52.14 | SNiLD | s/have/can/ |
| 11:53.30 | Niktau | reduce larger, perfect ;) |
| 11:53.47 | SNiLD | yeah they were too big for me too |
| 11:53.53 | SNiLD | it's fixed in the next release |
| 11:54.27 | Niktau | in fact, this tab is really greater than precedent system, all are in the same tab |
| 11:54.33 | Niktau | consult and selling tab in one |
| 11:54.44 | SNiLD | yes just takes a little bit getting used to, that's all |
| 11:54.53 | Niktau | yep... that right |
| 11:56.12 | Niktau | so, there's a lot of function, and i don't find this one who write somem comment in the chatroom |
| 11:56.28 | Niktau | how it's possible to mute those information in the chatroom ? |
| 11:57.37 | Niktau | faaaaaat, i love this appraiser tab !!! |
| 12:00.02 | SNiLD | Niktau: is it saying something like: "SearchUI: Resale:buy: Found [Glyph of Sprint] for 7" ? |
| 12:00.56 | Niktau | euh.... no |
| 12:01.02 | Niktau | in fact this is : |
| 12:01.29 | Niktau | auc adv finish scanning : "long result" |
| 12:01.56 | Niktau | but i move one option : |
| 12:02.17 | Niktau | enable the display of post scan summary |
| 12:02.24 | SNiLD | yes |
| 12:02.25 | SNiLD | that's the one |
| 12:03.16 | Niktau | in the appraiser tab, is it possible to see the icons of the items ? |
| 12:03.28 | Niktau | hmmm in fact is useless |
| 12:03.49 | Niktau | because it's not the result of some reseaerch, but the result of the items i placed in the square |
| 12:04.18 | SNiLD | yes |
| 12:04.24 | SNiLD | so they're exactly the same items ;) |
| 12:04.42 | SNiLD | so it's kind of waste of one column to repeat the name of the item you already know is there |
| 12:05.28 | Niktau | so, it(s a really great tab, excellent work |
| 12:05.55 | Niktau | this tab is a part of what subb addons in the auctioneer suite plz ? |
| 12:06.34 | SNiLD | it's in the core |
| 12:06.43 | SNiLD | Auc-Util-Appraiser |
| 12:11.59 | Niktau | if a clic on the refresh button in the appraiser tab after i put something in the square item |
| 12:12.27 | Niktau | why sometime it says "no market price was found" when the refresh give me some result ? |
| 12:13.02 | SNiLD | maybe you don't have enough data to make up good market price for the item yet? |
| 12:13.23 | SNiLD | you could try using different pricing model for that item, "Simple" for example |
| 12:19.16 | Niktau | omg the addon split my stock to sell by unit, unbelievable !!! |
| 12:19.23 | Niktau | faaaaaaaaat |
| 12:20.15 | SNiLD | yes you can control that per item basis |
| 12:20.30 | SNiLD | auctioneer will remember what you used for that item last time and offer to use that again the next time |
| 12:21.46 | Niktau | i use simple view for the moment, how it's possible to clean the left screen (to have no item slectionned in fact) |
| 12:22.17 | Niktau | i don't see a "clear" or "empty screen" button (sorry for the bad word i use) |
| 12:22.30 | SNiLD | hmm i don't know |
| 12:24.02 | SNiLD | Niktau: but in the full view you can just deselect the selected item from the left |
| 12:27.06 | Niktau | yep i see... |
| 12:27.13 | Niktau | but i made a big mistake... |
| 12:27.52 | Niktau | i sell a pack of five object with the price multipled by five |
| 12:28.18 | SNiLD | you always enter the price of single unit in the bid/buyout field |
| 12:28.34 | Niktau | the price is "bid per item" it's possible to have "bid per stack" |
| 12:28.45 | SNiLD | you can see what the total amounts are on the right |
| 12:28.54 | SNiLD | not at the moment |
| 12:28.57 | Niktau | in the sidebar ? |
| 12:29.59 | Niktau | yep, i see, perfect, i will not find ma manual calculator lol |
| 12:31.11 | Niktau | i lost five gold.... i'm gonna die ^^ |
| 12:32.07 | SNiLD | can the archievement points be used for anything? :p |
| 12:34.16 | Niktau | so, it's a really great tools, i'm able to use it perfectly now... really great job by the team and tnx to you for your big help ; |
| 12:34.18 | Niktau | ; |
| 12:44.44 | SNiLD | who stole the % column from appraiser tab? :-( |
| 12:44.52 | SNiLD | it was good, now i have only colors :S |
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| 13:48.27 | Kriss3d | Uhmm anyone able to tell why exactly nothing shows up in auctioneer ?? when i hover an item there is no indication of what things are worth |
| 13:50.26 | MentalPower | is it enabled? |
| 13:50.49 | Kriss3d | where would i check that ? |
| 13:51.02 | Kriss3d | unless you mean if auctioneer is enabled.. in that case its yes |
| 13:51.57 | MentalPower | what happens if you type /aadv about ? |
| 13:52.06 | Kriss3d | hang on |
| 13:52.28 | Kriss3d | version 3604 |
| 13:53.19 | MentalPower | http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/#release |
| 13:53.35 | Kriss3d | my gf who has the problem as well has 3622 |
| 13:54.26 | Kriss3d | uhm in the addon config the auc scandata is colored red.. is that a problem ? |
| 13:54.48 | MentalPower | no, that's a blizzard change |
| 13:54.58 | Kriss3d | ok |
| 13:55.00 | MentalPower | can you go into the config screen and check the settings there to see if the tooltip options are all enabled? |
| 13:55.09 | Kriss3d | sure hang on |
| 13:59.12 | Kriss3d | hmm ok i think i made it work.. is there documentation how to read these numers ? |
| 14:00.49 | Kriss3d | what does that IQR mean ? |
| 14:03.35 | ^nbot | Bug 03ASER-123 10dinesh: row highlight doesn't clear between searches, causing incorrect items to be purchased06* (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-123 10 |
| 14:03.38 | RockSlice | Kriss3d: InterQuartileRange. It's a measure of how spread out the prices are |
| 14:03.58 | RockSlice | http://forums.norganna.org/discussion/8012/statistics-for-dummies/#Item_3 |
| 14:04.32 | Kriss3d | oh thanks |
| 14:08.54 | Kriss3d | will there be a classic auctioneer ever again ?? |
| 14:09.18 | RockSlice | no, but a classic-like post tab is being worked on |
| 14:09.51 | RockSlice | but our code is GPL, so anyone's free to take over the AucClassic code and ressurrect it |
| 14:10.15 | Kriss3d | well to be honest its almost driving us insane here.. according to auctioneer as it is now.. a stack of heavy stone is 12G.. |
| 14:10.35 | Kriss3d | it just takes a major course to get to learn this.. |
| 14:11.20 | Kriss3d | well it was just easy to see what things are worth.. it isnt anymore |
| 14:11.34 | Kriss3d | too many useless info cluttering up everything |
| 14:12.07 | RockSlice | the next build will have a single "marketprice" line |
| 14:12.43 | Kriss3d | its like.. we´re scanning and scanning and we´re gathering alot of info but there is no way to see what the heck the info will do |
| 14:12.51 | Kriss3d | when will the next build be done ? |
| 14:13.12 | RockSlice | when someone gets around to pushing it out |
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| 14:13.21 | Kriss3d | so that could be soon ?? |
| 14:13.33 | RockSlice | it will be Soon(tm) |
| 14:13.54 | Kriss3d | my gf tells me that in curse.com are alot of people who just wishes the classic would be brought back |
| 14:14.58 | RockSlice | we know. A lot of the people demanding AucClassic back are merely reacting to the fact that their interface has changed |
| 14:15.04 | RockSlice | but some have a valid point |
| 14:15.53 | RockSlice | most of the feedback we recieved during the developement process of AucAdv, however, was from people who had given it a chance, and liked it |
| 14:16.01 | Kriss3d | well the current auc has so many tabs its impossible to just find a suggested starting price and suggested BO.. |
| 14:16.49 | Kriss3d | its hard to give somthing a chance when it feels like sitting in a cockpit of a harrier jet in mid air.. youd like to do SOMTHING but have no idea where to start |
| 14:16.53 | RockSlice | the Appraiser module can put a single line in the tooltip for what it would post for (look in appraiser options) |
| 14:17.04 | Kriss3d | thanks |
| 14:17.59 | RockSlice | that's actually a good analogy |
| 14:18.21 | Kriss3d | hehe |
| 14:18.51 | RockSlice | we've got people used to a basic plane now in the cockpit of a harrier |
| 14:19.06 | Kriss3d | exactly |
| 14:19.21 | RockSlice | there's a learning curve, but you can do so much more with the harrier |
| 14:19.28 | Kriss3d | i get the meridian price but i have no idea if its the starting price or the BO price |
| 14:19.43 | RockSlice | BO |
| 14:21.04 | Kriss3d | it doesnt suggest BO prices when trying to put up somthing for sale |
| 14:22.16 | RockSlice | are you using the appraiser tab? |
| 14:22.39 | Kriss3d | yes |
| 14:23.06 | RockSlice | how often have you scanned? |
| 14:23.26 | Kriss3d | 2-3 times a day |
| 14:23.37 | Kriss3d | since auc after patch |
| 14:23.42 | RockSlice | has the item been seen? |
| 14:23.42 | Kriss3d | we ditched all the old data |
| 14:24.08 | Kriss3d | yes |
| 14:24.39 | Kriss3d | well its just pretty tough when there is no manual for it yet.. |
| 14:25.43 | RockSlice | can you upload a screenshot showing the appraiser frame and the item's tooltip to up.norganna.org, then post a link? |
| 14:25.55 | Kriss3d | sure |
| 14:27.10 | Kriss3d | its like the tooltip says one market value for somthing and the auctioneer appraiser window says another value |
| 14:27.20 | Kriss3d | one is 46G the other is about 50G for the same thing |
| 14:27.51 | RockSlice | ah. that's because of marketprice |
| 14:28.11 | RockSlice | AucAdv takes all the stats' prices, and combines them into one "marketprice" |
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| 14:29.33 | Kriss3d | then why does it show two prices for the same item ? |
| 14:29.39 | Kriss3d | ill just upload.. takes a bit |
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| 14:34.56 | Mckeznak | Hey is it true that you are implementing a simple post thing like the classic one? |
| 14:35.09 | RockSlice | one is being worked on, yes |
| 14:35.18 | Mckeznak | awesome |
| 14:36.02 | Mckeznak | i'll check back in a bit, sorry i tried appraser for a week it just doesn't work well for me |
| 14:36.23 | Kriss3d | [URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/4018/wowqh9.jpg[/IMG][/URL] |
| 14:36.23 | Kriss3d | [URL=http://g.imageshack.us/img519/wowqh9.jpg/1/][IMG]http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/wowqh9.jpg/1/w1024.png[/IMG][/URL] |
| 14:36.43 | Kriss3d | sorry about the spamcrap.. things isnt working for me right now |
| 14:40.31 | RockSlice | Kriss3d: if you want Appraiser to match up with the Histogram stat, you need to set Appraiser to use it rather than market value |
| 14:43.12 | Kriss3d | ah.. hmm another thing.. you have to sidescroll to see the relevant info.. the prices are all to the right side |
| 14:43.30 | Kriss3d | and the tooltip still doesnt show the start and bo prices.. |
| 14:44.22 | Kriss3d | RockSlice would it be THAT hard to go back to the classics ?? i know im far from being the only person actually cursing at my auctioneer since classic stopped |
| 14:44.56 | RockSlice | yes. please read the forum stickies for more information |
| 14:45.59 | Kriss3d | RockSlice exacly WHAT does the appraiser (histogram ) price in the tooltip represent ? |
| 14:48.25 | RockSlice | the appraiser(<stat>) price represents the buyout price that appraiser will post at. the <stat> indicates what it takes its price from |
| 14:50.34 | Kriss3d | if you look at the picture.. the appraiser in the tooltip says 46G.. that would be a buyout.. but the "total buyout" in the auctioneer window says 50G |
| 14:52.15 | RockSlice | right. because in the screenshot you gave, appraiser was using marketprice |
| 14:52.30 | RockSlice | http://wiki.norganna.org/Market_Price |
| 14:53.32 | Kriss3d | yeah.. but so does the tooltip.. |
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| 14:54.05 | Kriss3d | it displays same diffrence in the prices when using histogram |
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| 14:55.03 | RockSlice | i see what you're confused about. the tooltip doesn't include the "matcher" (undercut) calculations |
| 14:56.39 | Kriss3d | shouldnt the auctioneer then use the undercut calculations instead of the tooltip ? |
| 14:56.51 | Kriss3d | afterall thats the one setting the selling price |
| 14:59.30 | Kriss3d | the problem is when the tooltip and appraiser isnt showing same price.. its confusing since you have no idea which of them is representing the value of the item |
| 15:00.38 | RockSlice | the tooltip represents the value of the item. What you post at may be above or below value, depending on the competition |
| 15:01.16 | Kriss3d | ahhhh that makes more sense.. thank you |
| 15:02.42 | SNiLD | hey RockSlice |
| 15:02.46 | SNiLD | did you see this earlier: |
| 15:02.48 | SNiLD | [13:14:33] <cybersimo> i used auctioneer classic cause it had a button to find "competition" undercuts, how do i do that in auc-advanced |
| 15:03.05 | SNiLD | how DO you do that in advanced? :/ |
| 15:03.58 | sag_ich_nicht | the download link for the 5.2 preview on the auctioneer website is broken |
| 15:04.01 | sag_ich_nicht | 8< |
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| 15:04.46 | RockSlice | SNiLD: you look down the itemlist in appraiser for any items with blue (or green) numbers in the competition |
| 15:05.02 | RockSlice | sag_ich_nicht: no it's not. we just don't have anything there |
| 15:05.06 | SNiLD | but as you've posted your item into the auction you don't have it anymore |
| 15:05.34 | sag_ich_nicht | RockSlice: then don't display it |
| 15:05.38 | RockSlice | SNiLD: that's what the "auctions" checkbox is for |
| 15:06.04 | SNiLD | ah yeah thanks! |
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| 15:14.56 | SNiLD | how come __TOC__ is not working on the forums? |
| 15:15.02 | SNiLD | s/forums/wiki/ |
| 15:15.40 | SNiLD | have the settings been put so that there can't be toc, or? :/ |
| 15:16.35 | SNiLD | RockSlice: hmm and where is the pct column from the appraiser tab? ;) |
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| 15:24.02 | DragonSifu | can anyone help with an Auctioneer question? |
| 15:24.21 | RockSlice | ~asktoask |
| 15:24.22 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 15:25.09 | DragonSifu | lol - I used Auctioneer's capability of auto-selecting the market value of items and posting the auction... |
| 15:25.16 | DragonSifu | but now that seesm to be gone |
| 15:25.27 | DragonSifu | I just DLd the new Acutioneer Suite and installed |
| 15:26.00 | DragonSifu | got a message saying that beancounter 202 was in place and should be beancounter 204 |
| 15:26.24 | DragonSifu | the tab for Post Auction is not there, and when I try to post, just get same old Auctioneer boredom |
| 15:26.35 | DragonSifu | what am I missing? |
| 15:26.52 | RockSlice | ~patchblues |
| 15:26.59 | RockSlice | ~patchdayblues |
| 15:27.00 | purl | http://forums.norganna.org/discussion/8100/patch-day-blues-an-upgrade-and-new-user-faq/#Item_1 |
| 15:27.09 | RockSlice | there you go, DragonSifu ^^^ |
| 15:30.53 | DragonSifu | ok, I am obtuse - that link is not clickable or copyable, and I cannot read the whole URL |
| 15:31.03 | DragonSifu | what comes after new-user- |
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| 15:32.42 | RockSlice | faq |
| 15:32.46 | Tolerant | Hi guys.. |
| 15:33.04 | RockSlice | DragonSifu: try http://forums.norganna.org/discussion/8100 |
| 15:33.09 | Tolerant | anyone reported: Date: 2008-10-18 11:22:30 |
| 15:33.20 | RockSlice | ~norgbug Tolerant |
| 15:33.21 | purl | Hi Tolerant, in order to report your bug here, simply select and copy the text in the Swatter bug details box (use "/swat show" if you've already closed it), and go to http://norganna.pastey.net ; Once you're there, paste your bug into the box, submit and paste the resultant URL into the chat. Thanks! |
| 15:33.33 | RockSlice | yup. it's the 18th! |
| 15:33.38 | RockSlice | :) |
| 15:34.10 | DragonSifu | lol thx, had a typo in the url |
| 15:34.54 | Tolerant | seems like the utils mod is "outdated" as well cause it shows up in red.. i had to close wow its eating my cpu so I cant give more details.. |
| 15:35.40 | RockSlice | Tolerant: please check out our patchdayblues faq |
| 15:35.47 | RockSlice | http://forums.norganna.org/discussion/8100 |
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| 15:37.00 | gonzai | anybody else experiencing stubby related errors and the error money type messages...and know the fix? |
| 15:37.24 | RockSlice | blizz bug |
| 15:37.39 | gonzai | kills mny chat window too |
| 15:37.41 | RockSlice | (though might be triggered by outofdate ace mods |
| 15:37.54 | gonzai | i can kill then and see |
| 15:37.55 | Tolerant | well wasnt that nice of blizzard to make things red :P |
| 15:38.04 | gonzai | i got a lot of red |
| 15:38.19 | gonzai | all of meta map is and half of cartographer |
| 15:40.45 | Tolerant | http://norganna.pastey.net/98716-4drx |
| 15:41.16 | RockSlice | Tolerant: that will be fixed in the next build |
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| 15:41.53 | Tolerant | any eta, when I try to get the beta build it just gives a message no download link? |
| 15:42.16 | ^nbot | Bug 03ASER-125 10dinesh: RTS popup goes to welcome page06* (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-125 10 |
| 15:42.49 | RockSlice | soon(tm) |
| 15:42.49 | Nechckn_AFK | Tolerant there is no beta right now. There will likely be a new release later today. |
| 15:43.07 | Tolerant | great, life sucks without a working auctioneer |
| 15:44.14 | ^nbot | Bug 03WECN-7 10dinesh: Wowecon.lua line 195: attempt to compare number with nil06* (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/WECN-7 10 |
| 15:48.19 | Tolerant | not to be a pest, but would anyone happen to have a working line 411 in the meantime? |
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| 15:53.05 | smash | having a problem with beancounter says it needs 2.04 but it wont update??? |
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| 15:59.16 | ^nbot | Bug 03WECN-7 10dinesh: Wowecon.lua line 195: attempt to compare number with nil06 (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/WECN-7 10 |
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| 16:01.49 | no1rogue | whats the word on the new update? |
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| 16:02.33 | no1rogue | does anyone know what the word is on the new update? |
| 16:05.10 | Tolerant | http://norganna.pastey.net/98721-3g8r |
| 16:06.10 | SNiLD | Tolerant: i get that sometimes too |
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| 16:07.46 | Tolerant | i had just posted stuff, got mail, went back to post more and got it when opening auc house |
| 16:08.29 | Tolerant | anyone else having WoW use all your CPU when minamized? |
| 16:09.00 | SNiLD | only similar addons you have to mine are Fubar, FactionsFu, FriendsFu, GuildFu, MailFu, MoneyFu, Omen :p |
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| 16:11.16 | ^nbot | Bug 03BCNT-215 10kandoko: Improve DB integrity check to catch improper itemstrings06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-215 10 |
| 16:14.13 | ^nbot | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:14.19 | ^nbot | Bug 03BCNT-215 10kandoko: Improve DB integrity check to catch improper itemstrings06 (04In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-215 10 |
| 16:21.15 | ^nbot | Pollution 03auctioneer r3634 10kandoko: BeanCounter/BeanCounterUpdate.lua has a new global variable: itemStringNew at line 483 |
| 16:28.21 | Tolerant | freaking awesome, I found a fix for high cpu when tabbed out |
| 16:28.29 | Tolerant | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.00 | XThief | what does that command do? |
| 16:34.14 | Tolerant | stops the cpu from maxing out when u alt-tab out of wow |
| 16:34.23 | XThief | cool |
| 16:34.24 | Tolerant | now i can actually use my PC again |
| 16:34.40 | XThief | i cant log in wow... |
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| 16:42.19 | ^nbot | Bug 03BCNT-215 10kandoko: Improve DB integrity check to catch improper itemstrings06 (04Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-215 10kandoko: Cleans the improper itemlink changes made by linked ticke... |
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| 16:48.16 | unrak | Hi - is anyone available to answer a swatter support issue? |
| 16:50.03 | SNiLD | like? |
| 16:50.31 | unrak | every time i log into wow swatter has disappared and i have to redownload it |
| 16:50.42 | sag_ich_nicht | windows vista? |
| 16:50.46 | unrak | xp |
| 16:50.52 | SNiLD | wowmatrix? ;) |
| 16:50.59 | unrak | er...yes |
| 16:51.06 | SNiLD | tell it not to FUCK UP ;) |
| 16:51.14 | Nechckn_AFK | That's your issue, then |
| 16:51.24 | unrak | thank you :) |
| 16:51.30 | Nechckn_AFK | If you download from http://AuctioneerAddOn.com/dl |
| 16:51.34 | Nechckn_AFK | you won't have the issue |
| 16:52.01 | unrak | time to delete wowmatrix by the sounds of ity |
| 16:52.11 | SNiLD | yay! |
| 16:52.17 | ^nbot | Improvement 03BTMS-138 10alcaras: FilterItemAuctionHistory - Filter items based on BeanCounter sale/fail history.06 (04In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BTMS-138 10 |
| 16:52.26 | unrak | thanks for your help :)_ |
| 16:52.32 | Tolerant | man, fix one problem (cpu) and now got a toon that only loads halfway and stops |
| 16:53.21 | ^nbot | Improvement 03ASER-126 10alcaras: FilterItemAuctionHistory - Filter items based on BeanCounter sale/fail history.06 (04In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-126 10 |
| 16:54.15 | SNiLD | Tolerant: you mean the load bar goes only half way and then you get message you got disconnected? |
| 16:55.12 | ^nbot | Pollution 03auctioneer r3637 10alcaras: Auc-Util-SearchUI/FilterItemAuctionHistory.lua has new global vars: s at line 114; f at line 115; target_ratio at line 117; min_scan_filter at line 118; actual_ratio at line 120 and actual_ratio at line 127 |
| 16:55.34 | SNiLD | >:/ |
| 16:55.41 | SNiLD | global variable s and f? :p |
| 16:55.53 | SNiLD | sound dangerous |
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| 17:06.08 | Tweeker | is there a way to BATCH POST without having to click he check box for EVERY SINGLE ITEM ?? |
| 17:06.21 | alcaras_ | Tweeker: You only check the box once for each item, ever. |
| 17:06.34 | alcaras_ | Tweeker: So you only need check the box the first time you see an item |
| 17:06.44 | alcaras_ | Tweeker: Later, when you AH that same item, the box will be pre-checked. |
| 17:06.57 | Tweeker | Yes, but since there are hundreds of thousands of items in the wow database... |
| 17:07.19 | alcaras_ | Tweeker: Right, but you probably aren't auctioning hundreds of thousands of items |
| 17:07.19 | Tweeker | is there now way to have it ON by default? |
| 17:07.46 | Tweeker | no, but none the less it would still take me several weeks till i form enough items catalogged |
| 17:07.49 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: 03kandoko * r3634 10BeanCounter/ (BeanCounter.lua BeanCounterUpdate.lua): |
| 17:07.49 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: Fixes BCNT-215 |
| 17:07.49 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: Hopefully fixes corruption issues arising from users who tried the 3601 revisions release. Corrects itemLinks that contain [itemname]:80|h|r. Corrects truncated itemstrings to proper length. |
| 17:08.07 | alcaras_ | Well, what are you auctioning? |
| 17:08.13 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: 03kandoko 075.1 * r3636 10BeanCounter/ (BeanCounter.lua BeanCounterUpdate.lua): |
| 17:08.13 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: Fixes BCNT-215 Commits changes to 5.1 branch |
| 17:08.13 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: Hopefully fixes corruption issues arising from users who tried the 3601 revisions release. Corrects itemLinks that contain [itemname]:80|h|r. Corrects truncated itemstrings to proper length. |
| 17:08.15 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: 03kandoko * r3635 10BeanCounter/BeanCounterUpdate.lua: |
| 17:08.26 | alcaras_ | are you really auctioning thousands of different items? |
| 17:08.34 | Tweeker | with all 9 of my chars, i mail everytihng to my 10th, and daily i do over 300 NEW auctions |
| 17:08.43 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: Fixes BCNT-215 |
| 17:08.43 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: Corrects global pollution |
| 17:08.43 | alcaras_ | I routinely list 1,000-1,500 auctions at a time and I haven't been annoyed with batch posting |
| 17:08.48 | Tweeker | from all differnet zones, and levls |
| 17:09.15 | alcaras_ | Alright, how long have you been using Batch Post to do this? |
| 17:09.37 | alcaras_ | Or you're telling me that every day you'll have 300 new items you've never auctioneed before? |
| 17:09.49 | Tweeker | So far since patch went live... and every single time, i end up with half my items in the mail, needing to be flagged "Okay to post" |
| 17:10.17 | alcaras_ | Give it another week; you'll find most things are checked by then |
| 17:10.25 | alcaras_ | And -- anything that isn't checked -- it's nice to confirm the check |
| 17:10.32 | alcaras_ | Since that way you know you really want to batch post it |
| 17:10.34 | Tweeker | just wondering, is there a way to toggle it "ON" by default? |
| 17:10.39 | alcaras_ | Not as far as I know |
| 17:11.02 | Tweeker | since 100% of the items on my AH character is intended to sell. |
| 17:11.06 | alcaras_ | I'm not sure how you're seeing so many new items |
| 17:11.24 | alcaras_ | There's cloth, various tradeskills; all greens convert to enchanting mats... |
| 17:11.29 | Tweeker | like i said, i loot with 9 characters all different zones, and levels |
| 17:11.53 | alcaras_ | Right, but if you're DEing everything, it all reduces to a smaller subset of enchanting mats, which you'll only need to check once |
| 17:12.03 | Tweeker | i dont DE anything |
| 17:12.13 | alcaras_ | I think we found our problem :) |
| 17:12.20 | Tweeker | I sell it as is... |
| 17:12.28 | alcaras_ | Then I can see why you'd get annoyed at having to check every single random green |
| 17:12.31 | Tweeker | problem? it sells for more if not DE'd |
| 17:12.39 | Tweeker | exactly |
| 17:13.03 | alcaras_ | Sorry I can't help you, I don't know of an option to check batch on by default |
| 17:13.07 | Tweeker | can you look into it some, help me find a fix? |
| 17:13.11 | alcaras_ | Have you tried searching the forums? |
| 17:13.14 | Tweeker | yes |
| 17:14.26 | alcaras_ | Sorry then, can't help :-/ |
| 17:14.38 | alcaras_ | Maybe someone else will read scrollback and provide advice. Good luck. |
| 17:14.55 | Aesir | You're asking for multiple auction to be created with a single user input. Blizzard doesn't allow that through their API. |
| 17:15.16 | Tweeker | http://forums.norganna.org/discussion/6465/batch-posting-can-it-be-set-to-default/#Item_0 |
| 17:16.09 | Tweeker | with auctioneer classic, i would go to the auctions tab, and hol down alt & shift while clicking on any item in my bags, and it would then auto post it |
| 17:16.44 | Tweeker | i dont mind clicking every item in my bags, i could run thru 180 auctions in under 20 seconds that way |
| 17:17.08 | Tweeker | i just wish those keys were the same with advanced |
| 17:17.29 | Aesir | I misunderstood what you were driving at. |
| 17:19.14 | Tweeker | but do you under stand now? |
| 17:21.13 | Aesir | I wouldn't have anything to add to the topic you linked - but yes, I think that you are looking for a way to enable batch processing as a default option. The implementation has to be worked out in more detail though. |
| 17:22.16 | Tweeker | what would you do as a work-around? |
| 17:22.31 | Tweeker | since igor's mass auction is not compatable |
| 17:24.24 | Aesir | I'm not sure there is a work-around, or where the change would sit in terms of priority. |
| 17:25.49 | Tweeker | ugh |
| 17:25.54 | Tweeker | preciate yer time |
| 17:26.15 | Tweeker | i wonder if auc classic will work with new patch |
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| 17:28.02 | alcaras_ | it won't. |
| 17:28.22 | Tweeker | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/igors-mass-auction-for-tbc.aspx |
| 17:29.27 | alcaras_ | Tweeker: Why not just batch post everything, then quickly check everything left over, and then batch post again:? |
| 17:29.46 | alcaras_ | That way you'll quickly get everything batch post checked with minimal aggravation |
| 17:30.22 | alcaras_ | Embrace the new and wonderful world of Auctioneer Advanced :) |
| 17:33.36 | Nechckn | Tweeker no, AuctioneerClassic does not work, that is much of the reason for the change to the current Auctioneer Suite. |
| 17:34.20 | Tweeker | I dont like to embrace repetative work :) |
| 17:34.29 | Tweeker | i want my ba ba! |
| 17:34.32 | Tweeker | hehe... |
| 17:34.35 | Nechckn | As for enabling batch posting by default, that won't happen- too many folks don't use it. |
| 17:35.03 | Nechckn | Are you the Tweeker from WoWInterface? |
| 17:35.37 | Tweeker | i was sooooo very happy with waiting the 15 minutes per day to scan the AH, then run to my mail box, pick up a load, run back to AH and post everything in under 30 seconds |
| 17:35.39 | Nechckn | I'm assuming so... I was going to reply to you there, too.. but I see the reference to IMA too. |
| 17:35.46 | Tweeker | yes, i am that Tweeker |
| 17:35.49 | Tweeker | my name is Rodger |
| 17:36.16 | Nechckn | cool, cool... here's the thing, you can put in a request- do you have a forum acct for our site? |
| 17:36.20 | ^nbot | New Feature 03UCUT-15 10RockSlice: Add Tooltip Line for undercut status06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/UCUT-15 10 |
| 17:36.32 | Nechckn | it actually may be in already -- hold on a moment |
| 17:36.35 | Tweeker | No sir, i do not |
| 17:37.18 | Tweeker | was hoping, through this chat, and 30 minutes to explain my requests in detail, that someone could pass the word on |
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| 17:39.09 | Tweeker | would be very nice to have a .bat file made... just for me... that would turn on by edfault |
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| 17:42.25 | Danny | Hi all |
| 17:42.37 | Tweeker | hi |
| 17:42.47 | Danny | so you guys like the new auctioneer? |
| 17:43.20 | Danny | i so miss the old full - AuctioneerFullSuite-5.0. |
| 17:44.10 | Nechckn | Tweeker I don't see that in there- if you sign up right quick on http://Forums.Norganna.Org then you can post on http://Jira.Norganna.Org - put the request in under the "Appraiser" project to have a setting to default the Batch Post selection to "on" |
| 17:44.45 | Nechckn | Danny it's different, but the changes were really needed- the old Auctioneer was a nightmare to keep working |
| 17:44.59 | Nechckn | we are all volunteers, so there are only enough hours in a day to do so much |
| 17:46.06 | Danny | yeah - i bet - over all great job tho |
| 17:46.14 | Danny | =) |
| 17:46.20 | Nechckn | maintaining Auctioneer, Gatherer, and Enchantrix would be a full-time job for a solid 5 people. We don't have that luxury though- so we had to make changes. There will be a "just post the stuff to make me money" type posting frame sometime relatively soon |
| 17:46.25 | Nechckn | so keep an eye out |
| 17:46.52 | Danny | Can i ask a question on posting auctions? |
| 17:47.23 | Danny | when i try to post a mutiple stacks of something.. with the new auctioneer. i can only put price / item? |
| 17:47.46 | Danny | and not price / stack? it gets really hardto caclulate the price in your head vs the market |
| 17:48.42 | SNiLD | Danny: you see everything as price/item |
| 17:48.53 | SNiLD | in the right hand window of appraiser you see the price of the whole post |
| 17:49.55 | Danny | yea, i see. Is there a way for me to enter price / stack as the price? This way, user doesnt have to calculate (or look around) for the total price of the stack |
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| 17:50.21 | Danny | or maybe a option to do that (selectable) |
| 17:57.07 | Nechckn | Not right now, no |
| 17:57.42 | Nechckn | That's part of the "just post the stuff to make me money" type posting frame that will be arriving relatively soon. |
| 18:01.35 | Danny | great! thx |
| 18:01.45 | Danny | now i know its coming =) |
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| 18:06.11 | Spartagus | I updated my auctioneer but it still shows out of date in my addons list. Anyone else have this? |
| 18:06.55 | Nechckn | For some unholy reason Blizzard changed all "load on demmand" AddOns to display in red in the Main AddOn Control Panel. They actually work fine, unless you see "out of date" or "dependency missing" in text in the second column. |
| 18:07.12 | Spartagus | ahh thats nice of them |
| 18:07.18 | SNiLD | isn't there purl for that yet? ;D |
| 18:07.58 | Nechckn | Yeah.. it's macro 22 on my machine |
| 18:08.14 | Nechckn | poor purl gets too cluttered =) |
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| 18:11.21 | Bangoskank | Greetings |
| 18:11.58 | Bangoskank | I'm I the only clueless noob who can't get the new Auctioneer to work with the new patch? |
| 18:12.23 | SNiLD | no, you're the 32423546th :) |
| 18:12.42 | Bangoskank | OK now I don't feel so bad... .heh heh |
| 18:13.07 | SNiLD | also as many number of people have not read these: |
| 18:13.08 | SNiLD | http://wiki.norganna.org/Installing |
| 18:13.12 | SNiLD | http://wiki.norganna.org/Adaptation_from_Auctioneer_Classic_to_Auctioneer_Advanced |
| 18:13.20 | Nechckn | SNiLD just for you... "RedOnLoad" |
| 18:13.23 | Nechckn | is added |
| 18:13.26 | SNiLD | :S |
| 18:14.00 | Bangoskank | By the way.. You know the "errror" window that pops up? It says to select all and copy/past for feedback, but right click is disabled. Some other way to copy/paste? |
| 18:14.18 | SNiLD | ctrl+c |
| 18:14.24 | SNiLD | oh |
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| 18:14.32 | SNiLD | how come they quit so fast |
| 18:14.38 | SNiLD | ctrl+c |
| 18:14.45 | Nechckn | he hates you... that's why |
| 18:14.53 | SNiLD | i knew it! |
| 18:14.53 | Bangoskank | Ki9cked myself.... sigh |
| 18:15.06 | SNiLD | Bangoskank: you did it just because you hate me? :( |
| 18:15.11 | Bangoskank | Because I got fat, fumble fingers...heh heh |
| 18:15.12 | Nechckn | It is all because of that one time when you gave that dog the dirty look. |
| 18:15.27 | Bangoskank | Naaaa.... I didn't believe them I told them you were OK. |
| 18:15.37 | SNiLD | ... how do you know about THE DOG? >:/ |
| 18:15.52 | Bangoskank | Ve have our VAYS..... |
| 18:16.01 | Nechckn | knows many, not-so-useful facts. |
| 18:16.12 | SNiLD | that's it, i'm auctioning my dog pet... |
| 18:17.02 | Bangoskank | Anyways, as I was noobily saying... how to copy/paste from the error pop-up when right click is disabled? |
| 18:17.32 | Nechckn | on windows you highlight with Ctrl+A then Ctrl+C copies |
| 18:17.41 | Nechckn | then Ctrl+V pastes |
| 18:17.53 | Bangoskank | ahhhh thankee-si. |
| 18:18.21 | Nechckn | If it's an error for us, use http://Norganna.Pastey.Net then let us know the URL assigned to the report. |
| 18:18.39 | Bangoskank | OK got that thanks. |
| 18:18.47 | Nechckn | IRC will boot you if you try to paste that much directly |
| 18:18.52 | Nechckn | =) |
| 18:19.04 | Bangoskank | "Pastey" .... hmmmm! Don't they usually come in pairs? |
| 18:20.13 | Bangoskank | Telling my age, I guess..... |
| 18:20.47 | Nechckn | only the better ones come in pairs |
| 18:21.11 | Bangoskank | heh heh |
| 18:22.09 | Bangoskank | Since I booted myself, I missed the URL you posted to fix the auctioneer install I'm screwing up? |
| 18:22.50 | SNiLD | ~ac2aa Bangoskank |
| 18:23.00 | SNiLD | ~AC2AA Bangoskank |
| 18:23.09 | SNiLD | doesn't it support that? :/ |
| 18:23.14 | SNiLD | ~AC2AA |
| 18:23.14 | purl | Please read the article on upgrading from Auctioneer Classic to Auctioneer Advance at http://wiki.norganna.org/Adaptation_from_Auctioneer_Classic_to_Auctioneer_Advanced |
| 18:23.33 | SNiLD | http://wiki.norganna.org/Installing |
| 18:23.36 | Bangoskank | Ahhh.. thank you thank you (bow scrape) |
| 18:25.42 | Bangoskank | I'll go try this now. Thanks again. |
| 18:29.58 | Tweeker | i liked classic cause if there was no items to compare to, it would mark it at 300% above vendor value |
| 18:30.17 | Tweeker | i just sold 80 items for nohitng |
| 18:30.30 | Tweeker | oh well, there goes an easy 500 gold in my learning attempt |
| 18:31.06 | Nechckn | Tweeker you can set that |
| 18:31.12 | Tweeker | oh? |
| 18:31.16 | Tweeker | im all ears :) |
| 18:31.19 | Nechckn | look in the options, under utilities, Appraiser |
| 18:31.28 | Nechckn | set the secondary statistic to "Vendor" |
| 18:32.18 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: 03RockSlice * r3639 10Auc-Match-Undercut/Undercut.lua: Adds UCUT-15: Adds color-coded Tooltip line for undercut status |
| 18:32.36 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: 03RockSlice 075.1 * r3640 10Auc-Match-Undercut/Undercut.lua: Adds UCUT-15: (5.1 branch commit) Adds color-coded Tooltip line for undercut status |
| 18:32.39 | Tweeker | Alternate Pricing Model ? |
| 18:33.12 | ^nbot | New Feature 03UCUT-15 10RockSlice: Add Tooltip Line for undercut status06 (04In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/UCUT-15 10 |
| 18:34.14 | ^nbot | New Feature 03UCUT-15 10RockSlice: Add Tooltip Line for undercut status06 (04Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/UCUT-15 10RockSlice: added in r3639 and r3640(for 5.1) |
| 18:35.36 | Tweeker | how do i change hte % of vendor mark up? it's trying to sell level 67 green armor for 15 silver |
| 18:35.49 | Tweeker | that can't be 300% |
| 18:36.49 | Nechckn | Hmm... |
| 18:38.05 | Tweeker | i see where to change it.. and it was already at 300 |
| 18:38.11 | Tweeker | but wow... |
| 18:38.15 | Nechckn | Ok.. so on the Appraiser frame - when you select the item, is that what it lists as the price? |
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| 18:40.28 | Tweeker | yes |
| 18:40.44 | Tweeker | increditble, i will be bought out by all the enchanters and make nothing |
| 18:41.25 | SonyX | Hello all |
| 18:42.13 | SonyX | anyone have a link to why bottem scanner is not on the new release? |
| 18:44.19 | SonyX | nm |
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| 18:50.23 | Tweeker | an item that sells to vendor for 3 silver, is about to be postedddd using vendor mark up at 300% for only 8 silver, can someone explain? |
| 18:50.28 | lahare | hey, i have a problem and i would like to know if someone can help |
| 18:50.53 | lahare | after the patch i cant get scanner to work, i've already redownloaded auctioneer |
| 18:51.40 | Tweeker | works for me |
| 18:51.51 | Tweeker | delete and reinstall |
| 18:51.57 | Tweeker | variables too |
| 18:52.00 | lahare | sigh... tried that... like 3 times |
| 18:52.05 | Tweeker | not a pro, just standard advice |
| 18:52.06 | lahare | are the variables stored seperately? |
| 18:52.13 | Tweeker | heck im a noob |
| 18:52.45 | SNiLD | lahare: how is the scanner not working? |
| 18:52.51 | lahare | where are the variables? |
| 18:52.57 | lahare | it doesn't even show up |
| 18:53.05 | lahare | in the addon screen it shows up as red |
| 18:53.07 | SNiLD | ~AC2AA |
| 18:53.07 | purl | Please read the article on upgrading from Auctioneer Classic to Auctioneer Advance at http://wiki.norganna.org/Adaptation_from_Auctioneer_Classic_to_Auctioneer_Advanced |
| 18:53.20 | lahare | but it doesn't say it's outdated |
| 18:53.36 | SNiLD | ~RedOnLoad |
| 18:53.37 | purl | from memory, redonload is For some unholy reason Blizzard changed all "load on demand" AddOns to display in red in the Main AddOn Control Panel. They actually work fine, unless you see "out of date" or "dependency missing" in text in the second column. |
| 18:54.08 | lahare | oh... well, it still doesn't work, lol |
| 18:54.39 | SNiLD | did you read the url? |
| 18:55.18 | lahare | yeah... |
| 18:55.25 | lahare | that was it, lol, now i feel like a noob |
| 18:55.46 | lahare | obviously the one i had before was classic, and this one has a play button, i was looking for the scan button |
| 18:55.56 | lahare | -_- i sry |
| 18:55.59 | SNiLD | thus i gave you the url ;p |
| 18:56.25 | lahare | man, if I'd have known that I may not have deleted my memory, lol |
| 18:57.20 | lahare | thanx guys |
| 18:59.42 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: 03RockSlice * r3641 10/branches/5.1/ (Auc-Util-Appraiser/AprSettings.lua Informant/InfMain.lua): |
| 18:59.42 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: merging 3623-3636,3638-HEAD |
| 18:59.42 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: Does not include new SearchUI filter |
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| 19:06.39 | New_Auc_Guy | hey ya everyone |
| 19:06.51 | lilymage_0048 | hi all |
| 19:07.11 | New_Auc_Guy | is anyone having problems with stubby not being updated |
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| 19:09.34 | lilymage_0048 | i did the play again and resale search after the play stops, but i still cant purchase anything shown in the window |
| 19:10.06 | New_Auc_Guy | mine is working ok, except I cannot use chat while auctioneer is running |
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| 19:14.04 | New_Auc_Guy | mine is a soild column of errors but the auctioneer works ok but keeps referenceing to stubby |
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| 19:17.27 | ccox | New_Auc_Guy: the latest release includes stubby |
| 19:17.45 | ccox | New_Auc_Guy: and you should not be getting many errors (there are a few in blizzard code that they are still fixing) |
| 19:19.37 | New_Auc_Guy | when I DL the 5.1.3625 it didnt install because I removed the origional stubby folder from my filder |
| 19:23.23 | Kandoko | ~AC2AA |
| 19:23.24 | purl | Please read the article on upgrading from Auctioneer Classic to Auctioneer Advance at http://wiki.norganna.org/Adaptation_from_Auctioneer_Classic_to_Auctioneer_Advanced |
| 19:23.46 | Kandoko | ~ thanks purl needed the link |
| 19:24.19 | Tolerant | btw, whoever doesnt like appraiser.. is clueless.. its great! |
| 19:24.33 | New_Auc_Guy | i removed all my acutioneer stuff and started over but I am not seeing a stubby folder extract |
| 19:24.45 | New_Auc_Guy | yes the new version is great |
| 19:24.53 | New_Auc_Guy | just have to get all my bugs worked out |
| 19:25.21 | Tolerant | did u download it from www.auctioneeraddon.com ? |
| 19:25.38 | lilymage_0048 | i did the scan first and then i did a resale scan and i hit purchase and i couldnt buy anything |
| 19:26.42 | lilymage_0048 | please hel me |
| 19:26.42 | Kandoko | New_Auc_Guy: mine is working ok, except I cannot use chat while auctioneer is running? Why? |
| 19:27.01 | New_Auc_Guy | not sure thats the same problem I am having |
| 19:27.29 | lilymage_0048 | di u guys run resale ? |
| 19:27.39 | Tweeker | resale? |
| 19:27.41 | New_Auc_Guy | i ran all of the scans |
| 19:27.52 | Kandoko | lilymage_0048: Did the item dissappear of the resale list ad aucioneer did nothing? |
| 19:28.08 | Kandoko | No messages about failing or buy promot? |
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| 19:29.34 | Lupin_0050 | what is with auctioneer sucking now? |
| 19:29.39 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: 03ccox * r3642 10Enchantrix/EnxAutoDisenchant.lua: (fixes ENX-64) fix the genericize link function in trunk |
| 19:29.54 | SNiLD | Rupan: you ::) |
| 19:29.58 | Rupan | i use to love this addon |
| 19:30.00 | Rupan | now its bloated |
| 19:30.07 | Rupan | lost a lot of options |
| 19:30.11 | ^nbot | Bug 03ENX-64 10Kinesia: Auto-DE seems to require ignoring the same type of item multiple times.06 (04In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ENX-64 10ccox: yeah, our genericize link function is no longer correct -... |
| 19:30.15 | SNiLD | like? |
| 19:30.16 | Rupan | is someone making like a classic version of Auctioneer? |
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| 19:30.20 | SNiLD | Rupan |
| 19:30.23 | SNiLD | ~AC2AA |
| 19:30.24 | purl | Please read the article on upgrading from Auctioneer Classic to Auctioneer Advance at http://wiki.norganna.org/Adaptation_from_Auctioneer_Classic_to_Auctioneer_Advanced |
| 19:30.28 | Rupan | dude if you used this like a year ago youll know the difference |
| 19:30.30 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: 03ccox 075.1 * r3643 10Enchantrix/EnxAutoDisenchant.lua: (fixes ENX-64) fix the genericize link function in 5.1 branch |
| 19:30.53 | Nechckn | Rupan, kindly read http://AuctioneerAddOn.com where you will see that a "just post the stuff and make me money" interface is on the way. |
| 19:30.54 | Kandoko | I did use it a year ago :) disliked classic in many ways :P |
| 19:31.16 | Nechckn | Until then- you can either use it as is or not. That is up to you. |
| 19:31.21 | Kandoko | New_Auc_Guy: are you on vista? |
| 19:31.43 | New_Auc_Guy | no |
| 19:31.47 | lilymage_0048 | i cant buy anything after i run the search,,, need help |
| 19:31.48 | ccox | Rupan: yes, AucAdv has it's problems, especially appraiser |
| 19:32.00 | Rupan | my biggest issue is |
| 19:32.03 | ccox | Rupan: but read the forum, most of it is there |
| 19:32.03 | Rupan | not being to check what um |
| 19:32.08 | Rupan | areas I want to search |
| 19:32.08 | New_Auc_Guy | i extracted the 3125 patch into a folder and nowhere do I see a stubby folder |
| 19:32.13 | ^nbot | Bug 03ENX-64 10Kinesia: Auto-DE seems to require ignoring the same type of item multiple times.06 (04Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ENX-64 10ccox: fixed in trunk with revision 3642 fixed in 5.1 with revis... |
| 19:32.18 | Rupan | it only does em all as far as I can tell and it takes like 30 mins |
| 19:32.28 | SNiLD | New_Auc_Guy: do you use wowmatrix? |
| 19:32.36 | ccox | Rupan - hmm, it should be scanning much, much faster now |
| 19:32.41 | New_Auc_Guy | no |
| 19:32.52 | Rupan | i just want to pick and choose which cats to scan |
| 19:33.06 | ccox | Rupan - but the first few scans after the patch may be slow, because the game hasn't cached names and item information yet |
| 19:33.11 | New_Auc_Guy | my scans are fast and auctioneer is working great, just keep getting orange text about stubby being out of date |
| 19:33.13 | SNiLD | 175 auctions/second /flex |
| 19:33.14 | Nechckn | New_Auc_Guy 15 files in the build |
| 19:33.21 | Nechckn | including stubby |
| 19:33.23 | Rupan | sigh |
| 19:33.24 | ccox | Rupan - my scans rarely take more than 5 minutes for the whole AH |
| 19:33.25 | Rupan | i just dont get it |
| 19:33.28 | Rupan | why change what is working |
| 19:33.31 | Rupan | as far as UI goes? |
| 19:33.40 | ccox | Rupan - because they're geeks |
| 19:33.43 | Nechckn | Rupan, kindly read http://AuctioneerAddOn.com where you will see that a "just post the stuff and make me money" interface is on the way. |
| 19:33.51 | New_Auc_Guy | the latest one I just did only has 13 and I just downloaded it 2 minutes ago |
| 19:33.52 | SNiLD | why drive a lada when you can drive a lamborghini? |
| 19:33.58 | Rupan | i saw that |
| 19:33.59 | Rupan | just |
| 19:34.04 | Rupan | why do the change to begin with i guess |
| 19:34.05 | Nechckn | did you read it? |
| 19:34.08 | Rupan | yes |
| 19:34.11 | Nechckn | okay then |
| 19:34.20 | Rupan | he thinks it better |
| 19:34.23 | Rupan | but has anyone |
| 19:34.23 | Rupan | ever |
| 19:34.25 | ccox | Rupan - Classic had problems with it's design, AucAdv is supposed to make that better |
| 19:34.28 | Rupan | like stuff forced down their throat? |
| 19:34.32 | RockSlice | Rupan: also because 99% of the feedback we got from people who had tried the Appraiser tab was that they liked it and wouldn't want to go back |
| 19:34.43 | Rupan | i dont care about the appraiser tab |
| 19:34.43 | ccox | Rupan - but what the engineers think is better for themselves isn't always best for other people |
| 19:34.45 | Rupan | havent even got that far |
| 19:34.45 | New_Auc_Guy | I have been using auctioneer for over a year and I am tellin gyou this new one is the best one yet |
| 19:34.55 | Nechckn | That is the guy whose addon you are using- he makes it for himself to use and allows us to tag along |
| 19:34.56 | ccox | Rock - no, that is not the feedback you got |
| 19:34.59 | Nechckn | he eveen takes input |
| 19:35.04 | ccox | RockSlice: please stop saying that, because it is not true |
| 19:35.04 | RockSlice | ~hug New_Auc_Guy |
| 19:35.05 | purl | ACTION hugs New_Auc_Guy |
| 19:35.20 | ccox | RockSlice: you liked it, and some of the other devs liked it - but some of the devs kept saying that it was useless |
| 19:35.31 | ccox | RockSlice: and some users said so as well, and went back to using the post tab |
| 19:35.53 | New_Auc_Guy | auctioneer has made me 10k gold in about 4-6 months and I build twinks that are 50 -250 gold to equip |
| 19:35.56 | ccox | RockSlice: now that the post tab is gone completely, you're hearing the louder complaints because they can't simply ignore the appraiser |
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| 19:36.46 | New_Auc_Guy | I am tellking you if you dont have 10k gold and you are using auctioneer you are doing something wrong |
| 19:37.19 | Rupan | so I guess im suppose to sit here and wait 30 minutes |
| 19:37.25 | New_Auc_Guy | nechckn helped me configure mine about 6 months ago and all I didi was rake up the gold |
| 19:37.27 | Rupan | just to see how much to sell something from one group? |
| 19:37.42 | New_Auc_Guy | never looked back |
| 19:37.54 | ccox | Rupan: get a few scans done so the game can cache information, then the scans should go much faster |
| 19:37.55 | Rupan | i dont disagree New_Auc_Guy this addon brings in the gold like a mother |
| 19:37.59 | Nechckn | Rupan the scan speed is the scan speed- that has more to do with Blizz's servers and internet access than anything |
| 19:38.02 | ccox | Rupan: that was true for classic as well |
| 19:38.03 | New_Auc_Guy | yeah baby |
| 19:38.09 | Rupan | ccox ye sbut |
| 19:38.13 | Rupan | i could just pick one cat |
| 19:38.16 | Rupan | category |
| 19:38.17 | New_Auc_Guy | this one is even easier to configure |
| 19:38.22 | Rupan | and it would take like 5 minutes |
| 19:38.24 | Rupan | New_Auc_Guy wth? |
| 19:38.31 | Nechckn | Rupan Hold Ctrl+Left click the category |
| 19:38.32 | Rupan | the old one had like no config for me? |
| 19:38.34 | Nechckn | then search |
| 19:38.37 | Rupan | ty |
| 19:38.39 | New_Auc_Guy | yes |
| 19:38.40 | Nechckn | simple |
| 19:38.47 | Nechckn | What else? |
| 19:38.59 | New_Auc_Guy | the new one has an "active" bottom scanner |
| 19:39.14 | Rupan | see why take out the check boxes |
| 19:39.40 | Rupan | thats just confusing |
| 19:40.33 | Kandoko | Rupan: Ctr Click on category(s) you want to scan then press play button |
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| 19:41.02 | Rupan | Kandoko i know that now |
| 19:41.03 | Rupan | im saying |
| 19:41.08 | Rupan | why drop the check boxes? |
| 19:41.18 | Kandoko | Because classic had checkboxes and we had no place to put them till we killed classic |
| 19:41.27 | New_Auc_Guy | nech I only have 13 files in my current download of 5.1.3125 |
| 19:41.40 | Rupan | i do like the appraiser though |
| 19:41.41 | Nechckn | Because we couldn't have 2 different checkboxes - now *that* would have confused everyone |
| 19:41.47 | Kandoko | The checkboxes mat make a reappearnce now, I think there is a jira ticket somwhere |
| 19:41.56 | Nechckn | New_Auc_Guy names? |
| 19:41.58 | Rupan | you have a lot more tools to work with |
| 19:42.08 | Rupan | just the scanner gets me |
| 19:42.09 | Rupan | oh |
| 19:42.11 | Rupan | and this side bar BS |
| 19:42.17 | Rupan | thats been there forever and I freaking hate it |
| 19:42.23 | New_Auc_Guy | Auc-Advanced |
| 19:42.27 | Nechckn | Slide bar can be removed- delete the folder |
| 19:42.33 | New_Auc_Guy | Auc-ScanData |
| 19:42.39 | Rupan | where is it? |
| 19:42.40 | New_Auc_Guy | Auc-Stat-Histogram |
| 19:42.42 | Nechckn | the setting is not "saving" to keep the slidebar hid right now |
| 19:42.50 | New_Auc_Guy | Auc-Stat-Simple |
| 19:42.58 | New_Auc_Guy | BeanCounter |
| 19:43.06 | New_Auc_Guy | Enchantrix-Barker |
| 19:43.13 | New_Auc_Guy | Informant |
| 19:43.19 | New_Auc_Guy | Auc-Filter-Basic |
| 19:43.25 | Nechckn | Auc-Advanced\libs\SlideBar |
| 19:43.26 | New_Auc_Guy | Auc-Stat-Classic |
| 19:43.39 | New_Auc_Guy | Auc-Stat-Purchased |
| 19:43.46 | New_Auc_Guy | Auc-Stat-StdDev |
| 19:43.53 | New_Auc_Guy | Enchantrix |
| 19:43.59 | New_Auc_Guy | EnhTooltip |
| 19:44.26 | SNiLD | my slidebar stays hidden |
| 19:44.29 | Nechckn | no !Swatter or Stubby? they are there, honest |
| 19:44.33 | SNiLD | but it doesn't remember where i've pulled it :S |
| 19:44.44 | New_Auc_Guy | ok |
| 19:44.47 | Nechckn | SNiLD the setting to perma-hide it |
| 19:44.54 | New_Auc_Guy | i believe ya :-) |
| 19:45.02 | SNiLD | as in "disable"? |
| 19:46.10 | Tweeker | how do you make it so it shows suggested bid/buyout in the tooltip? Like it used to |
| 19:46.27 | Nechckn | SNiLD either thing, yep |
| 19:46.40 | SNiLD | ~AC2AA |
| 19:46.41 | purl | Please read the article on upgrading from Auctioneer Classic to Auctioneer Advance at http://wiki.norganna.org/Adaptation_from_Auctioneer_Classic_to_Auctioneer_Advanced |
| 19:46.47 | SNiLD | check the tooltip part at the end Tweeker |
| 19:47.18 | Nechckn | New_Auc_Guy http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/#release go there |
| 19:47.20 | SNiLD | Nechckn: oh that setting would rock as the slidebar really has no place to fit in my layout with the properties it currently offers ;) |
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| 19:47.37 | Nechckn | click the AuctioneerSuite select download and drop it on your desktop |
| 19:48.26 | Kandoko | ~AC2AA Kandoko |
| 19:48.41 | SNiLD | that does not work for some reason >:/ |
| 19:48.59 | Nechckn | ~auctinstall SNiLD |
| 19:49.05 | Kandoko | Yeah, just wondering if I messed up when making it |
| 19:49.05 | Nechckn | damn.... |
| 19:49.08 | Nechckn | she's mad |
| 19:49.26 | Kandoko | ~pat purl |
| 19:49.26 | purl | ACTION pats purl and says "Nicely Done!" |
| 19:49.42 | Nechckn | ~botsnack |
| 19:49.42 | purl | aw, gee, Nechckn |
| 19:49.49 | Nechckn | now work, darn you! |
| 19:49.52 | SNiLD | ~help |
| 19:50.03 | Kandoko | ~help |
| 19:50.16 | Nechckn | lilymage_0048 now that we missed your thing totally.... |
| 19:50.32 | New_Auc_Guy | ok IM going in, cover me - (will brb) |
| 19:50.42 | Nechckn | do this... go into ..\WorldofWarcraft\Interface\AddOns and rename that to OLD_AddOns |
| 19:50.51 | Nechckn | make a new, empty AddOns folder |
| 19:51.00 | Nechckn | download and extract the suite to there |
| 19:51.14 | Nechckn | then go to the AH and try your Scan and then Search |
| 19:53.36 | New_Auc_Guy | i removed all my old auctioneer stuff and dropped the new folders into my interface folder and its still saying im missing dependancy called stubby |
| 19:53.45 | lilymage_0048 | my problem is : first i click the play botton to scan the whole data, then i run a resale search for thing things i want to buy |
| 19:54.06 | lilymage_0048 | and then i click purchase to buy it, but i cant buy ,the item just gone.. |
| 19:54.19 | lilymage_0048 | no window pop up asking if i want to buy |
| 19:55.47 | Nechckn | lilymage_0048 there is no popup |
| 19:55.53 | Nechckn | well... wait |
| 19:56.00 | Nechckn | not like Bottomscanner that is |
| 19:56.12 | Kandoko | ~pdb Nechckn |
| 19:56.30 | Nechckn | so, if you do what I laid out up there... we can get into the "why" of what's going on |
| 19:56.51 | lilymage_0048 | so how can i buy? |
| 19:57.31 | lilymage_0048 | after i run the resale search and found the item which i maybe can sell higer price? |
| 19:58.46 | Nechckn | Yes, that is using the SearchUI - I only was pointing out that there isn't a big popup that asks if you want to buy, etc... |
| 19:59.13 | Nechckn | You use the searchUI to search.... then you select "Smart Purchase" buy or bid |
| 19:59.35 | Nechckn | then you should see a button asking you if you're sure about the purchase |
| 20:00.57 | lilymage_0048 | where is the smart purchaSE? |
| 20:01.09 | Nechckn | at the bottom of the SearchUI screen |
| 20:03.55 | lilymage_0048 | i didnt see it , only search , clear, purchase ignore etc. |
| 20:04.13 | Nechckn | Purchase** |
| 20:04.22 | Nechckn | or Bid or Buy |
| 20:06.03 | lilymage_0048 | i click purchase, nothing show up asking me to confirme my buying |
| 20:06.20 | Nechckn | do you still have the AH open? |
| 20:07.02 | Nechckn | take a Screenshot and upload to http://Up.Norganna.Org then return the URL the software assigns here, please. |
| 20:08.31 | lilymage_0048 | yes, i am |
| 20:09.46 | lilymage_0048 | there is no screen shot, just after the search done, i want to buy the item, it doesnt allow me to buy ,the item jsut gone and no window pup up to ask me if i want to buy |
| 20:10.06 | Nechckn | Um... no.... You take a screen shot |
| 20:10.09 | lilymage_0048 | normally, if u click things to buy, a window will come out asking u to confirm |
| 20:10.12 | ^nbot | Improvement 03APPR-192 10dinesh: Improve the speed at which Appraiser posts while splitting stacks06* (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-192 10 |
| 20:10.16 | Nechckn | of what you are seeing on the screen |
| 20:11.37 | Nechckn | use the Print Screen button and then find the file in the ..\WorldofWarcraft\ScreenShots folder |
| 20:23.16 | New_Auc_Guy | hey not sure if you all experienced this buy when I was using winzip it was only extracting 13 files and it was missing stubby and !swatter |
| 20:25.19 | SNiLD | so did any other extractors see !swatter and stubby? |
| 20:25.47 | New_Auc_Guy | AHHHHH Back to a working version of Auctioneer |
| 20:25.53 | New_Auc_Guy | thats what it was |
| 20:26.01 | Nechckn | New_Auc_Guy the are just zip files- they all should be the same |
| 20:26.13 | SNiLD | what solved the issue? |
| 20:26.42 | New_Auc_Guy | yeah I had to actually click on the !stubby and !swatter items and that placed them in a folder |
| 20:27.10 | New_Auc_Guy | winzip will show you where the files will be extracted to |
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| 20:27.39 | New_Auc_Guy | highlighted them and it extraced them into my extracted folder |
| 20:27.58 | SNiLD | i don't get it |
| 20:28.00 | leatherneck | hello, i donwloade the new version of auctioneer and it says you need beancounter 2.04, but i cant find it, can anyone help? |
| 20:28.06 | SNiLD | you should always select ALL and extract ALL |
| 20:28.19 | New_Auc_Guy | yeah maybe I didnt do that I will check and see |
| 20:29.02 | SNiLD | leatherneck: the newest suite contains the newest beancounter |
| 20:29.09 | Kandoko | letherneck, if you log out then back in it should be ok |
| 20:29.15 | leatherneck | ok, ty |
| 20:29.20 | New_Auc_Guy | its working NOW WOOO HOOO TY guys for and AWESOME new update and please keep up the GREAT WORK |
| 20:29.22 | Kandoko | If not |
| 20:29.44 | Kandoko | sigh, prays letherneck never used the 3601 build :( |
| 20:31.19 | Kandoko | Wonders if winzip chokes on "!" for some odd reason |
| 20:32.19 | New_Auc_Guy | yeah not sure but I had the all and all chelced too, this is in evaluation version also |
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| 20:54.23 | Tolerant_0086 | what port / program is attempting to get through my firewall using this chat? |
| 20:55.25 | Tolerant | because I am getting messages of no route available with it on after telling windows not to allow it, normally I would say 'ask me later' |
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| 20:58.39 | Tolerant | http://norganna.pastey.net/98756-2o19 |
| 20:59.21 | Tolerant | Sorry if anyone responded.. what do I need to allow in windows firewall for this chat to work? |
| 21:02.58 | Tolerant | ~auctstuff |
| 21:02.59 | purl | I know about the following topics (type one for more info): ~aucdeletesv, ~auctioneerbeta, ~auctioneersvn, ~auctfaq, ~auctdownload, ~auctinstall, ~auctupdate, ~enxstatus, ~norgjira, ~norgbug <nickname>, ~recruitingdrive, ~transferdata |
| 21:03.51 | SNiLD | this chat does not require anything from windows firewall |
| 21:04.12 | Tolerant | well it kept asking, when I said dont ask I couldnt connect till I turned it off |
| 21:04.24 | SNiLD | O_O |
| 21:04.34 | SNiLD | your firewall is preventing outwards connections? |
| 21:05.12 | Tolerant | shouldnt be, but I do see an Ident message flash by when I first connect but the screen clears so I dont get to read it |
| 21:05.32 | SNiLD | oh but i don't think ident is mandatory |
| 21:05.52 | Tolerant | well i will turn it back on and see what happens.. |
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| 21:07.40 | Tolerant | test.. |
| 21:07.44 | Tolerant | still see me? |
| 21:07.52 | SNiLD | yes |
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| 21:15.39 | alcaras | anyone know of a working-in-3.0.2 reagant cost/auctioneer value mod akin to lil sparky's workshop? |
| 21:16.07 | Nechckn | Not yet |
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| 21:17.12 | Nechckn | lil'sparky is currently updating... Fizzwidget stopped... |
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| 21:20.12 | *** topic/#norganna by Nechckn -> Auctioneer version 5.1.3643 (WoW-3.0 compatible) available || Gatherer 3.1.5 Released! || http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl & http://gathereraddon.com/dl || Post bugs on Jira or http://norganna.pastey.net || General WoW chatter in #WoWUIDev || Uploads to http://Up.Norganna.Org (if asked) || Patience, my young padawan... |
| 21:21.34 | AlBaker | Also left this on pastey since AuctioneerTrac is getting a 404: |
| 21:21.39 | AlBaker | Date: 2008-10-18 16:09:31 |
| 21:21.59 | Nechckn | AlBaker just link the pastey here |
| 21:22.26 | AlBaker | Oops, closed that window already. Should I do it again? |
| 21:22.31 | Nechckn | sure |
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| 21:23.07 | Nechckn | whoa... it's the Hinter minter! |
| 21:23.16 | AlBaker | http://norganna.pastey.net/98761 |
| 21:23.40 | Nechckn | That is fixed! |
| 21:23.41 | Nechckn | =) |
| 21:23.45 | AlBaker | (Superior Work you are doing btw: love Auctioneer! |
| 21:23.47 | ccox | we haven't been using Trac for long time now... |
| 21:23.49 | Nechckn | the build is up on the d/l site now |
| 21:23.55 | AlBaker | SO, I'll get it in 5.2. Sweet. |
| 21:24.05 | Nechckn | ccox the web interface is still messed up |
| 21:24.10 | Qzot_ | Heyo. I'm not easily finding how to either (a) disable columns in the Appraiser window, or (b) adjust the width of the windows. I sure ain't gonna use horizontal scroll. Help? |
| 21:24.11 | Nechckn | with the wrong link |
| 21:24.20 | ccox | Nechckn: what still points to trac? |
| 21:24.32 | Nechckn | adjust width by right clicking and drag the column title Qzot_ |
| 21:24.43 | Qzot_ | Ah. Right-click. Didn't try... |
| 21:24.53 | Nechckn | it's not easy to remove without making edits to CompactUI |
| 21:25.13 | Nechckn | ccox the IRC web client, that's all |
| 21:25.32 | Qzot_ | To which Hinter minter were you referring, Nechckn? |
| 21:25.35 | AlBaker | quit |
| 21:25.51 | Nechckn | I thought it was u, Qzot_ |
| 21:26.17 | Nechckn | oh.. maybe not. no biggie ;-) |
| 21:26.17 | Qzot_ | Indeed. Just wasn't aware that many people knew of that mod. :D |
| 21:26.21 | Nechckn | Ahhhh |
| 21:26.33 | Nechckn | Yepper- for my hunter it was great |
| 21:26.33 | Qzot_ | The last of my mods to be obsoleted by Blizz. :D |
| 21:26.48 | Nechckn | I ****HATE*** the new pet abilities |
| 21:26.56 | Nechckn | the old way seemed a bit more "real" |
| 21:26.56 | Qzot_ | I haven't even tried them. |
| 21:27.12 | Nechckn | heheheh I've not even tried to use it, yet |
| 21:27.22 | Qzot_ | And I love zero-config mods. |
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| 21:27.28 | Nechckn | but- the Hinter was cool and appreciated =) |
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| 21:27.51 | Nechckn | Yeah... Auctioneer doesn't quite fall in that category, but we're working on it |
| 21:27.58 | Boo | is bottom scaneer gone for good? |
| 21:28.21 | Nechckn | all of the defaults were reworked for "new" users.. and more is on the way. So, we'll have to see. |
| 21:28.28 | Nechckn | Boo in short, yes |
| 21:28.35 | Nechckn | You can use the new SearchUI though |
| 21:28.39 | Qzot | Yeah. Whenever I was lpaying a hunter, I loved the mod. |
| 21:28.51 | Nechckn | it combines the old shearch and BottomScanner into one |
| 21:28.55 | Boo | ok..well then prob not gonna need auctioneer...I had a toon thats all she did |
| 21:28.57 | Qzot | I'm CDO, tho. So QzHH could be a bit of a curse, too. |
| 21:29.17 | Nechckn | right click the magnifying glass in the upper row of the Browse window |
| 21:29.20 | Tolerant | I just hope the new one works in Darnassus |
| 21:29.31 | Nechckn | Qzot lol |
| 21:29.47 | Nechckn | Tolerant that what works in darnassus? |
| 21:29.53 | Boo | thre are people pretty upset over that |
| 21:30.04 | Qzot | For the record: CDO is like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they *should* be. :D |
| 21:30.08 | Tolerant | auc adv.. it kept freezing me up anytime i tried to search for anything |
| 21:30.16 | Tolerant | had to 'hard boot' 3 times in a row |
| 21:30.33 | Nechckn | Tolerant weird.. did you try the release that we just put out? |
| 21:30.44 | Tolerant | not yet, just installed it.. scared to though lol |
| 21:31.09 | Nechckn | Boo the functions are all there- it's less configuratin now. Instead of 2, you only need to set one set of Searchers |
| 21:31.34 | Nechckn | You are more than welcome to download BottomScanner seperately, but it will be going the way of the Dodo fairly soon |
| 21:31.57 | Boo | how is it gonna search the same why |
| 21:32.00 | Boo | way |
| 21:32.19 | Qzot | Nechckn: How are you guys dealing with AH bounces? |
| 21:32.57 | Nechckn | Boo not following you- You scan the AH, then use SearchUI same as the search or run RealTimeSearch, within SearchUI, for it to act exactly like Bottomscanner |
| 21:32.58 | Qzot | I.e., when you get more than one update, usually because the client is re-sending the update event because it has more seller names. |
| 21:33.10 | Tolerant | got an error on opening it.. will pastey it |
| 21:33.22 | Nechckn | Qzot well, we have a short wait while waiting for names |
| 21:33.53 | Qzot | If you do a getall, don't you get bounces for a long time after? |
| 21:34.02 | SNiLD | i don't get nearly all player names in the stats btw |
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| 21:34.12 | SNiLD | some are there but mostly not :/ |
| 21:34.14 | Nechckn | Nah... it will work for most |
| 21:34.33 | Nechckn | SNiLD if you do a regular scan, you should see close to every name |
| 21:34.38 | Tolerant | http://norganna.pastey.net/98764-7jgf |
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| 21:34.44 | Nechckn | GetAll doesn't wait at all =) |
| 21:34.50 | SNiLD | Nechckn: yeah i use getall ;p |
| 21:35.07 | Nechckn | Tolerant That is the blizz error |
| 21:35.12 | Qzot | I'm with SNiLD. When I do getall, I get very few of the names. But if I plug in my own debugging stuff, I see AH events coming back for a very long time. |
| 21:35.16 | Nechckn | everything should work otherwise, though |
| 21:35.19 | SNiLD | Tolerant: i get that too |
| 21:35.37 | Tolerant | it did let me search for "Parrot" this time though without locking up |
| 21:35.50 | Nechckn | ah.. some progress |
| 21:36.08 | Qzot | Nechckn: Any way to completely disable Appraiser columns? Or hide them? |
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| 21:36.17 | Qzot | Or rearrange their order? |
| 21:36.25 | SNiLD | right click and drag |
| 21:36.31 | SNiLD | the column name |
| 21:36.51 | Nechckn | Qzot in the CompactUI you can toy with 'em. |
| 21:36.54 | SNiLD | you can resize and rearrange but not remove/add |
| 21:37.06 | Nechckn | haven't played much but that's where they're set |
| 21:37.14 | Qzot | SNiLD: I thought right-click was resize. |
| 21:37.38 | Nechckn | Qzot that's what he means... right click and drag to resize |
| 21:37.40 | Boo | ok ty :) |
| 21:37.41 | SNiLD | i thought you can also rearrange that way? |
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| 21:37.44 | Nechckn | not drag the whole column |
| 21:38.14 | Qzot | There are columns that are just "clutter" to me. I want to hide them, or move them off to one side where I can ignore them. |
| 21:39.27 | Nechckn | Qzot yeah, for now, heading into the compactui.lua is the only way |
| 21:39.30 | Nechckn | We have a few tickets to add more of that, but they haven't been completed as of yet. |
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| 21:41.38 | AlBaker | Hi. I'm back: it just got weirder. Now when I click on "Buyout" or "Bid" in the new bottom scanner, Warcraft completely locks up! |
| 21:41.51 | AlBaker | I have to use alt-ctrl-del to stop it. |
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| 21:44.16 | Qzot | Ah. Gotcha. |
| 21:44.30 | Qzot | Gotta run. BBL. |
| 21:45.32 | Tolerant | Ok.. when I search for an item and it processes that.. I get it, but when I change the way that is sorted, why does it process again? |
| 21:46.16 | Tolerant | ie. I like to see the cheapest stuff at the top.. so I have to sort by the buyout column |
| 21:48.31 | Doug_0037 | My Auc-Scan addon is red and even though it's checked as well as load out of date addons, the scan button is missing when auctioneer loads. Please help =) |
| 21:52.15 | AlBaker | Earlier today it was working, now requires alt-ctrl-del after lockup. My guess is the data was corrupted. |
| 21:52.52 | AlBaker | Is there anything I can do to avoid losing all my data that has been gathered? My guess it is just in the bottom scanner data. |
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| 22:00.43 | Nechckn | ~RedOnLoad Doug_0037 |
| 22:01.16 | Nechckn | ~RedOnLoad |
| 22:01.17 | purl | [redonload] For some unholy reason Blizzard changed all "load on demand" AddOns to display in red in the Main AddOn Control Panel. They actually work fine, unless you see "out of date" or "dependency missing" in text in the second column. |
| 22:01.21 | Nechckn | tehre we go |
| 22:01.30 | Nechckn | s/tehre/there |
| 22:01.53 | Nechckn | AlBaker did you update? |
| 22:02.16 | Nechckn | There was an issue with some causing a lockup... but it was fixed and is in the new build. |
| 22:03.15 | ^nbot | Bug 03COMP-16 10kandoko: The Display on character button does not work with compactUI in WoW 3.006 (04In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/COMP-16 10 |
| 22:03.17 | AlBaker | No |
| 22:03.29 | AlBaker | Still on 5.1 No changes made at all. |
| 22:03.58 | Nechckn | 5.1.3643 is the current |
| 22:04.03 | AlBaker | It happened after I clicked bid or ignore on a whole bunch of items while ignoring the cancel/yes popup. |
| 22:04.35 | AlBaker | I then clicked on "yes" on the cancel/all popup and that was when the first lock-up happened |
| 22:06.31 | AlBaker | My guess is that I ended up buffering too much stuff. Now there is data sitting somewhere in a file that BottomScanner doesn't know what to do with! |
| 22:07.14 | ^nbot | Bug 03COMP-16 10kandoko: The Display on character button does not work with compactUI in WoW 3.006 (04Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/COMP-16 10kandoko: r3644 makes the above changes |
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| 22:09.08 | Kandoko | ~pdb |
| 22:09.08 | purl | rumour has it, pdb is Please read the known issues and FAQ at http://forums.norganna.org/discussion/8100/patch-day-blues-an-upgrade-and-new-user-faq/ |
| 22:09.18 | Kandoko | Nechckn: ^^ also a handy one |
| 22:09.38 | Kandoko | ~help |
| 22:10.15 | Nechckn | ah.. pdb, I like it |
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| 22:25.14 | SNiLD | pdb and rol :) |
| 22:27.10 | Qzot | wtf is AutoMagic? Looks like it might be useful, but I have no idea what it really is... |
| 22:28.04 | Qzot | Hmm. Is it for outgoing mail? |
| 22:28.32 | SNiLD | yes |
| 22:28.39 | SNiLD | you can mail DE stuff for DE-char |
| 22:28.42 | Qzot | BLeah. |
| 22:28.48 | SNiLD | prospect stuf for prospect char |
| 22:28.50 | Qzot | I was hoping it was for incoming mail. |
| 22:29.03 | SNiLD | also it tags stuff that are tagged for vendor and shows list when you enter vendor |
| 22:33.22 | Kandoko | Auto quese all gray items for vendor as well |
| 22:34.05 | AlBaker | Thanks, Finally got the latest version downloaded and tested: no longer hangs the game! |
| 22:36.15 | AlBaker | Quit |
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| 22:43.14 | ^nbot | Bug 03ADV-337 10RockSlice: Forgot to check for nil on CoreMain.lua line 8606 (04In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-337 10 |
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| 22:47.14 | ^nbot | Bug 03ADV-337 10RockSlice: Forgot to check for nil on CoreMain.lua line 8606 (04Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-337 10RockSlice: fixed in r3645-6 |
| 22:47.33 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: 03RockSlice 075.1 * r3645 10Auc-Advanced/CoreMain.lua: fixes ADV-337: (5.1 branch) nil pricearray won't bug out any more |
| 22:47.33 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: 03RockSlice * r3646 10Auc-Advanced/CoreMain.lua: fixes ADV-337: (trunk) nil pricearray won't bug out any more |
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| 22:56.41 | urnusan | hi all |
| 22:57.00 | urnusan | this is the right place if i have some questions about Auctioneer plugin for WoW right ? |
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| 22:59.14 | urnusan | is someone here at all ? |
| 22:59.16 | urnusan | :) |
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| 23:11.56 | Aesir | urnusan: It's IRC. Ask away, and when/if someone can respond or help they will. |
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| 23:23.15 | ^nbot | Improvement 03APPR-193 10RockSlice: Add optional "starting bid" line to Appraiser's addition to the tooltip06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-193 10 |
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