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| 00:01.17 | fitch | hello |
| 00:01.32 | ebuzz | hello |
| 00:01.54 | fitch | I have a question about auctioneer - I think the newest build doesn't work on vista but it works on XP |
| 00:01.55 | ccox | yes? |
| 00:02.03 | ebuzz | umm... sorry if im the fifty millionth person to ask about this, but... auctioneer doesnt seem to work for me |
| 00:02.06 | ebuzz | im on XP |
| 00:02.12 | ccox | addons don't care about the OS at all |
| 00:02.16 | fitch | ok |
| 00:02.34 | ccox | ebuzz - make sure you updated, make sure it's installed correctly, make sure it's enabled in the addons dialog |
| 00:02.35 | fitch | I'm loading the newest build as the only addon with my addons and wtf folder empty |
| 00:02.41 | ccox | ebuzz - it's working for most people |
| 00:02.49 | ebuzz | i did all that, i was gonna try it again, but i thot id check in here first |
| 00:03.00 | ccox | fitch - auctioneer depends on several other addons, make sure you installed them all correctly |
| 00:03.09 | ccox | ~aucinstall |
| 00:03.10 | purl | If you are having trouble installing, try reading http://norganna.org/wiki/Installing |
| 00:03.11 | fitch | I'm installing the suite |
| 00:03.19 | ebuzz | the thing i noticed is auc_scan data is in red so maybe something went amuck there, i know i removed all old ones |
| 00:03.26 | ebuzz | ill try again |
| 00:03.36 | ccox | the red thing is a blizzard change - not an errorr |
| 00:03.50 | ebuzz | o |
| 00:05.17 | fitch | ok I'll try it right now - I deleted WTF and all addons. I'm just going to load the contents of the suite. the newest build I think is 5.1.3613 |
| 00:06.01 | ebuzz | ya i had 3603... i DL'd a couple hours before servers came up... maybe thats my problem? |
| 00:06.58 | mattbnr | yep |
| 00:07.10 | ebuzz | D'oH! |
| 00:07.38 | mattbnr | I would recommend coming back here at least once a day (prob at least 2-3) and check for updates as this is patch day and we are gonan be fixing bugs that get found. |
| 00:07.46 | fitch | is there a way to DL the 5.2 version? when I click download preview, I dont see a download link |
| 00:08.04 | mattbnr | http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/#release go here |
| 00:08.15 | mattbnr | its 5.1 right now |
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| 00:09.02 | mattbnr | I think the 5.2 is just in preperation for the release of wotlk ( think) |
| 00:09.34 | fitch | does anybody have a mod that auto opens mail? I have tried several now and they dont seem to work. I usually have hundreds of mail in my mailbox and I just can't click one at a time |
| 00:09.46 | mattbnr | postal |
| 00:10.21 | mattbnr | could try it |
| 00:10.26 | fitch | where did you get the newest version of postal? curse? |
| 00:10.31 | fitch | the one I got from curse didn't work for me |
| 00:10.38 | ebuzz | thanks, im off to see if it works |
| 00:17.17 | fitch | anybody notice that the newest build of auctioneer is much slower? |
| 00:17.32 | mattbnr | nope |
| 00:17.44 | mattbnr | well it probably will be with all the new stuff added to the ah its never seen it before |
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| 00:33.49 | angus | hello all....question if anyone can help...i have the new auctioneer...and it has scanned the auction..however...the box isnt showing up below an item when i mouse over it..any ideas? |
| 00:35.10 | angus | great!! thanks for all the help!! |
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| 01:00.26 | Westify | hello, does anybody know where i can get a password to post a jira ticket for auctioneer? |
| 01:00.49 | mattbnr | you should be able to use your forum password and login |
| 01:01.46 | Westify | hmmm ok, i'll give it a try |
| 01:06.15 | ^nbot | New Feature 03CLAS-87 10Westify: Would like "competition" feature to be included in Auctioneer Advanced Suit06* (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/CLAS-87 10 |
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| 01:08.34 | Telath | anyone else having problems with listing an auction with a buy out price set before patch it would figure out a good price and auto fill the spot on the listing now only the starting price is put in |
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| 01:31.58 | Vicioushobbit | has anybody else had the error "moneytype not set"? |
| 01:35.35 | Vicioushobbit | hello? |
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| 01:52.49 | ronpurvis | Hello everyone |
| 01:53.14 | ronpurvis | I have a question for anyone willing to help. |
| 01:53.47 | RockSlice | ~asktoask |
| 01:53.48 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 01:54.53 | ronpurvis | Sorry about the breach in protocol. I have not used IRC in over 10 years. |
| 01:56.01 | ronpurvis | My question is about gatherer. I see where it mentions technical questions about the mod, but I don't see a place to download it. |
| 01:56.22 | RockSlice | gathereraddon.com/dl |
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| 01:59.45 | Force | hey everyone |
| 01:59.49 | Force | i have a problem |
| 02:00.03 | Force | is anyone here? |
| 02:00.12 | RockSlice | ~asktoask |
| 02:00.13 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 02:00.16 | ronpurvis | If I download the GathererDB_Wowhead-1.0.2008-10-06.zip and import it, this will show all the nodes in a zone while using the normal map from Blizzard? |
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| 02:00.43 | RockSlice | if you have it set in gatherer's options to display them, yes |
| 02:00.53 | Force | When I use appraiser, it says im posting for 80s, but it posts for 16 gold, what do i do? |
| 02:01.16 | Oohlalaa | I'm having a funny pop up that says Error MoneyType not selected, but can't find any sort of selection |
| 02:01.23 | RockSlice | Force: are you posting a stack? |
| 02:01.23 | Oohlalaa | any ideas on what i'm doing wrong? |
| 02:01.35 | RockSlice | ~norgbug Oohlalaa |
| 02:01.35 | purl | Hi Oohlalaa, in order to report your bug here, simply select and copy the text in the Swatter bug details box (use "/swat show" if you've already closed it), and go to http://norganna.pastey.net ; Once you're there, paste your bug into the box, submit and paste the resultant URL into the chat. Thanks! |
| 02:02.00 | Force | Rock: im posting multiple stacks |
| 02:02.28 | Force | ive been using auctioneer classic for the last year and a half but since the new patch, i needed to switch to the new version |
| 02:02.50 | Oohlalaa | ok, thank you =] |
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| 02:02.54 | RockSlice | the price you set in Appraiser is price/item |
| 02:03.03 | RockSlice | not price/stack |
| 02:03.20 | Force | ohhhhhh |
| 02:03.28 | Force | can i set it to stack? |
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| 02:04.10 | RockSlice | not currently, no |
| 02:04.19 | Force | ok, thank you |
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| 02:04.52 | hallmarc | hello |
| 02:05.34 | hallmarc | has anyone been able to get auctioneer to work with the new build? |
| 02:05.50 | ronpurvis | Is there a way to search the AH for all items that will DE into a specified item? For instance all items that will DE into eternal essence? |
| 02:06.43 | RockSlice | ronpurvis: use SearchUI's enchantmats searcher. |
| 02:07.06 | RockSlice | though that won't guarantee a particular item, as the disenchants are random |
| 02:07.28 | RockSlice | hallmarc: yes, the current release is quite stable |
| 02:08.04 | hallmarc | I don't see the AH break down in the item tooltip tho |
| 02:08.20 | hallmarc | and |
| 02:08.47 | hallmarc | first scan I ran finished all pages and then closed the AH window |
| 02:09.10 | RockSlice | hallmarc: check settings for your stats |
| 02:09.44 | hallmarc | what should they be set to? |
| 02:10.12 | RockSlice | if you want tooltip data, they should be set to show tooltip data... |
| 02:13.15 | ronpurvis | RockSlice, I am trying to find in the documentation what you are talking about with the SearchUI's enchantment searcher. Has that feature been documented at http://wiki.norganna.org/AucAdvanced yet? |
| 02:14.21 | RockSlice | in the searchUI, look for EnchantMats under Searchers |
| 02:14.35 | RockSlice | http://wiki.norganna.org/AucAdvanced/SearchUIBasics is the page for SearchUI |
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| 02:16.38 | ronpurvis | Thank you very much Rockslice. |
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| 02:23.01 | Beck_0010 | hello |
| 02:23.45 | RockSlice | hi |
| 02:24.31 | Beck_0010 | I just installed gatherer for the new patch and I don't have a DB option... anyone know anything about that? |
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| 02:25.38 | ike_0079 | hello? |
| 02:25.43 | Beck_0010 | hi |
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| 02:26.14 | ike_0079 | heya....i just got the new version of auctioneer and i am getting money type not found error...any ideas? |
| 02:26.33 | Beck_0010 | no clue sorry |
| 02:27.47 | hallmarc | ok I see stats now |
| 02:28.12 | hallmarc | what do i set so it auto fills the buy out bpxes? |
| 02:28.20 | hallmarc | boxes* |
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| 02:29.36 | jowmed | heLLo, is anyone there? |
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| 02:30.00 | jowmed | I have a question. Is it possible to update gatherer and not lose the node information in Wow? |
| 02:30.34 | Anaral | As long as you don't delete the WTF files, I don't see why it would overwrite the node data. |
| 02:31.05 | jowmed | so what do I do, remove that file and then delete the folder(s) then add the new folders, then overwrite that file? |
| 02:31.10 | ccox | jowmed: the node information is in your SavedVariables, and is not affected by updating the addon |
| 02:31.28 | ccox | jowmed: just update the addon, leave the SavedVariables alone |
| 02:31.43 | RockSlice | hallmarc: you set the pricing model to a stat, or "market" |
| 02:31.44 | jowmed | so I can delete the entire addon folder (within interface) and it will be fine |
| 02:31.51 | Anaral | yes |
| 02:32.14 | jowmed | cool, thanks |
| 02:32.14 | RockSlice | hallmarc: also, make sure you're using the Appraiser tab |
| 02:33.52 | jowmed | what folder is "savedvariables" in on a mac?? |
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| 02:34.20 | Anaral | In the WTF folder within the main WoW folder |
| 02:34.33 | hallmarc | I have it set to Market - it only auto fills the starting price |
| 02:34.45 | jowmed | k |
| 02:36.08 | jowmed | so my blizzard updater is running (after the download - the install part). DO I need to replace my addons before installing? after? during? or does it not matter? |
| 02:36.11 | hallmarc | Appraiser Tab - I see now |
| 02:36.34 | hallmarc | Wiat until it finishes patching |
| 02:36.38 | hallmarc | also |
| 02:36.48 | hallmarc | if you are using Vista |
| 02:37.14 | hallmarc | It will ask if it can move WoW to the desktop |
| 02:37.20 | hallmarc | click yes |
| 02:37.25 | ccox | jowmed - update your addons after the blizzard updater is done, before you log into WoW |
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| 02:37.39 | ken | lf help |
| 02:37.40 | AkiraDawn | 'ello :) Auctioneer is totally not working for several of us on the Kilrogg server... looked for 'readme' or something like that in the download AuctioneerSuite-5.1.3598 but didn't find one. Is it just not working for some people? |
| 02:38.22 | ken | auctioneer bottomscanner and enchantrix are all showing up red in my addons list |
| 02:38.44 | AkiraDawn | Yeah, same here. |
| 02:38.47 | ken | my enchantrix isnt showing anything on weapon tooltips :/ |
| 02:39.17 | RockSlice | the red just means that they're Load On Demand |
| 02:39.19 | Anaral | Check the 'enable out of date addons' box |
| 02:39.24 | ken | i did that |
| 02:39.28 | RockSlice | ken: type /enchantrix load always |
| 02:39.33 | ken | i also did that |
| 02:39.57 | RockSlice | is there any text next to the addons on the addon list? |
| 02:39.58 | ken | i also checked the boxes so that enchantrix should show on the tooltip |
| 02:40.10 | ken | nope |
| 02:40.12 | ken | they are just red |
| 02:40.21 | ken | so i thought it would be fine |
| 02:41.12 | hallmarc | I have a few that ared too |
| 02:41.18 | ken | is enchantrix working for other people? |
| 02:41.26 | hallmarc | are re* |
| 02:41.30 | hallmarc | red |
| 02:42.47 | ken | if enchantrix isnt working for anyone then i know its just the addon and i can wait for an update |
| 02:43.00 | ken | but if its something on my side i would like to fix it |
| 02:43.20 | hallmarc | I have it working after typing in /enchantrix load always |
| 02:43.58 | hallmarc | Auctioneer is the only add on i have atm |
| 02:44.00 | RockSlice | ken: you can get to the enchantrix options? |
| 02:44.24 | hallmarc | Auctioneer Suite 5.1 |
| 02:45.06 | ken | @rock yes |
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| 02:45.52 | RockSlice | in the General section, make sure the first three settings are: on, off, on |
| 02:45.58 | Quicksilver_0042 | I'm sure you guys proally get the question all the time but I'm wondering if there is a way to import my already gathered information into the new version of gatherer |
| 02:46.09 | RockSlice | no need |
| 02:46.26 | Quicksilver_0042 | elaborate. |
| 02:46.53 | RockSlice | it's still there, and still accessible. we haven't changed anything with the data storage |
| 02:47.01 | ken | @rock no change |
| 02:47.20 | ken | still doesnt show what the item disenchants to, percentage etc |
| 02:47.43 | ken | i also keep getting errors when i open up the ah |
| 02:47.54 | RockSlice | in the Value Display Options, do: on, off, on, on |
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| 02:48.02 | RockSlice | ken: highbidder? |
| 02:48.44 | ken | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.55 | Quicksilver_0042 | what folder holds all my data? |
| 02:48.59 | RockSlice | WTF |
| 02:49.02 | Quicksilver_0042 | in gatherer |
| 02:49.11 | RockSlice | ken: pastey, please |
| 02:49.15 | RockSlice | ~norgbug ken |
| 02:49.16 | purl | Hi ken, in order to report your bug here, simply select and copy the text in the Swatter bug details box (use "/swat show" if you've already closed it), and go to http://norganna.pastey.net ; Once you're there, paste your bug into the box, submit and paste the resultant URL into the chat. Thanks! |
| 02:49.23 | RockSlice | Quicksilver_0042: WTF folder |
| 02:51.44 | hallmarc | Um WOW |
| 02:51.48 | ken | http://norganna.pastey.net/98405-3wuq |
| 02:51.51 | ken | like so? |
| 02:52.24 | hallmarc | a bit of a learning curve... but I'm liking it |
| 02:52.31 | RockSlice | ken: that's an ArmoryGuildBank error |
| 02:52.43 | hallmarc | thanks rock and night |
| 02:52.52 | Quicksilver_0042 | ty night |
| 02:52.57 | ken | lol i pasted the wrong error |
| 02:54.18 | ken | http://norganna.pastey.net/98406 |
| 02:54.25 | ken | i believe that one is right |
| 02:55.52 | RockSlice | ken: you have old AucClassic and BtmScan hanging around |
| 02:56.05 | RockSlice | delete the "auctioneer" and "btmscan" folders |
| 02:56.35 | jowmed | I'm on a Mac (it's great for WoW except why do guilds not know how to install mac friendly codec on vent? - side rant). Thanks for all of your help! I searched forums forever about FAQ |
| 02:56.56 | jowmed | FAQ about updating and keeping info* |
| 02:56.58 | jowmed | see ya |
| 02:57.21 | ken | i just deleted the folders, should I unzip the suite again? |
| 02:58.11 | RockSlice | should be good |
| 02:58.31 | RockSlice | if you're going to unzip the suite again, first delete all auc folders |
| 03:00.15 | ken | you = golden god |
| 03:00.30 | RockSlice | well... I wouldn't go that far |
| 03:01.59 | ken | any idea what this is? |
| 03:02.00 | ken | http://norganna.pastey.net/98407 |
| 03:02.37 | RockSlice | a blizz bug |
| 03:03.33 | ken | this looks like an auctioneer bug |
| 03:03.34 | ken | http://norganna.pastey.net/98408 |
| 03:03.59 | RockSlice | AucClassic, which you shouldn't be running |
| 03:04.29 | ken | i deleted the folder...hmm |
| 03:05.50 | RockSlice | it's also got an ID of 45, meaning it's likely from a previous session |
| 03:06.03 | RockSlice | (Swatter stores a log of 50 errors) |
| 03:06.24 | ken | any way i can clear it? |
| 03:12.52 | RockSlice | ./swat clear |
| 03:15.47 | ken | cool |
| 03:15.51 | ken | you've been a great help |
| 03:15.53 | ken | thanks a lot |
| 03:24.37 | MalfunctionX | quick question what version of auctioneer is this? http://auctioneeraddon.com/?p=screen |
| 03:25.55 | RockSlice | Auctioneer from waaaay long ago |
| 03:26.06 | MalfunctionX | oh xD |
| 03:27.03 | MalfunctionX | thought i was having trouble with my auctioneer but i guess not everything is just moved around a lot |
| 03:27.29 | MalfunctionX | but the tool tips for items should appear after a couple of days of scanning right? |
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| 03:58.48 | lilymage | hi, anyone here |
| 04:00.49 | Kandoko | What's up lilymage |
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| 04:01.40 | hi0 | hi anyone on? |
| 04:01.57 | Kandoko | yes hi0? |
| 04:02.26 | lilymage | i have difficulties in using auctioneer, |
| 04:02.39 | lilymage | now there is no auto buy out price |
| 04:02.43 | lilymage | how can i set up |
| 04:02.55 | hi0 | Yes. I loaded the latest auctioneer classic. But now my chat window is all white and I cannot figure out how to change the color. |
| 04:03.04 | Kandoko | Are you using the appraiser tab? |
| 04:03.26 | Kandoko | Classic will not function in 3.0. Its no longer supported |
| 04:03.27 | Nechckn_AFK | hi0 that chat window thing is caused by one of the other addons |
| 04:03.36 | hi0 | I don't think so |
| 04:03.43 | hi0 | which add on? |
| 04:03.43 | Nechckn_AFK | I've not gone through to see which... but Auc by itself does not do it |
| 04:04.20 | hi0 | ok gonna disable everything else but auc |
| 04:04.31 | Nechckn | sounds good |
| 04:04.46 | hi0 | that fixed it |
| 04:05.08 | lilymage | classic ones , when i put things in, the buyout price is already there |
| 04:05.11 | Kandoko | lilymage: The appraiser Tab takes over from the old post tab. There a simple Ui button that should make it look a bit more similair to the classic version. Just remember it does prices by each. |
| 04:05.11 | lilymage | not it s gone |
| 04:05.23 | lilymage | and the put auction tab is gone too |
| 04:05.35 | Nechckn | what Kandoko said ^^ |
| 04:05.38 | lilymage | so how can i fast put things for auction and with buyout shown? |
| 04:05.38 | Kandoko | What tabs are there? |
| 04:05.43 | hi0 | thanks for your help |
| 04:05.46 | hi0 | :) |
| 04:05.56 | Nechckn | hi0 np, good luck |
| 04:06.13 | Nechckn | lilymage do you see "appraiser" listed in the tabs? |
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| 04:06.27 | lilymage | i quit, let me go inside again |
| 04:06.50 | lilymage | in classic, i seldom use appraiser |
| 04:07.39 | Nechckn | in Auctioneer Appraiser is the only "post" frame for the time being |
| 04:07.43 | lilymage | and how can i get back the previous database for all my scanned prices? |
| 04:07.48 | Nechckn | you can either use the Advanced or Simple view |
| 04:08.26 | Nechckn | if you did not convert your prices over as per the notices here, on Curse, and on WoWI for the past six months, then you need to start anew |
| 04:08.45 | Nechckn | That's not that big of a thing, since all of the markets are in flux due to 3.x hitting |
| 04:09.02 | Nechckn | things that were worth alot just a few days ago are now worth peanuts |
| 04:09.08 | Nechckn | and vice versa |
| 04:09.11 | lilymage | so you mean we have to build up database bying scanning again? |
| 04:09.17 | Kandoko | Have you been running the full suite Auc Classic and Advance? Then you probably have some advance data stored? |
| 04:09.42 | Nechckn | Yep it should only take a couple days to get okay stats on the most common items |
| 04:09.46 | Kandoko | otherwise yes you have to start scanning again. Its the play button at the top now. |
| 04:10.02 | Nechckn | and about a week to get reliable stats for most items except the most rare |
| 04:10.55 | Kandoko | http://wiki.norganna.org/AucAdvanced/Screens in particular http://wiki.norganna.org/AucAdvanced/Screens/BrowseTab |
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| 04:11.26 | lilymage | ok, got it |
| 04:11.58 | lilymage | what the link for ? |
| 04:12.37 | Kandoko | wiki to help with the new features :) |
| 04:13.02 | lilymage | i cant copy tthe link |
| 04:13.57 | Nechckn | if you just go to http://Wiki.Norganna.Org you can then select Auctioneer and then the Screen by Screen walkthrough |
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| 04:18.14 | lilymage | i am on te, where to go? |
| 04:18.49 | lilymage | on the page now |
| 04:20.40 | lilymage | i am reading it ,thx |
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| 04:49.00 | lilymage_0007 | hi |
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| 05:34.37 | anarky_ | hi guys, just had a quick question about the functionality of AA vs AC |
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| 05:36.09 | anarky_ | I always used to stick with Auctioneer Classic because it had that tab where you could index the scan results and sort by margin of profit....to find an item that's posted for less than the average...when I used Advanced, it didnt appear to have this ability... |
| 05:36.15 | anarky_ | is that correct? |
| 05:36.54 | ccox | anarky - it does, in the searchUI panel (the looking glass button) |
| 05:37.30 | Zyzzx | Good evening! on a side note I love the Appraiser! (note on guild site) Anyhow, is there a way to display vendor value, disenchant info, appraiser info on the tooltips of items (outside of the AH?) |
| 05:37.34 | anarky_ | Ok, so you can search and sort by percentage of profit? |
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| 05:40.05 | I440r | how do i turn off tracking for glowcaps ? |
| 05:40.26 | anarky_ | Ok ccox Ill check it out, thanks. To any devs who might be here, just wanna let you know that although we've always loved your work with Auctioneer, there are many of us who are really missing the streamlined and simple Classic |
| 05:40.46 | ccox | Zyzzx: yes, enable the tooltips in AucAdv, Informant and Enchantrix (the last 2 should be enabled by default) |
| 05:41.11 | ccox | anarky - yes, and you can provide feedback on the specific in the auctioneer forums |
| 05:41.34 | anarky_ | thank you |
| 05:42.51 | I440r | how do i make gatherer not track the locaion of glowcaps? |
| 05:43.28 | ccox | I440r: just go into the gatherer options and turn off the display of glowcaps |
| 05:43.36 | I440r | nope |
| 05:43.38 | I440r | not there |
| 05:43.50 | Zyzzx | I found the Enchantrix, still looking for tooltip for AucAdv and Informant |
| 05:43.54 | I440r | see fel weed, mana thistle, ..., ..., ... dont see glow caps |
| 05:44.15 | ccox | I know there's a way there, because I keep them turned off |
| 05:44.42 | Zyzzx | *doh* Informant was turned off /boggle me... |
| 05:45.43 | I440r | ccox i just checked again. i dont see anything in there for glowcaps. would be nice though if that list were sorted alphabetically :) |
| 05:46.21 | ccox | I440r: look under "treasure" not "herbalism" |
| 05:46.30 | ccox | glowcaps are not herbs, they are openable by anyone |
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| 05:49.32 | mark4_ | am i looking for this in the wrong place? |
| 05:50.06 | mark4_ | i type /gatherer and select the herbalism tab and i get a list of available weeds. glowcap is not one of them |
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| 06:42.34 | melkor | got a question is there a pot auction feature with the new auctioneer |
| 06:42.43 | melkor | post* |
| 06:45.03 | Nechckn | Yes, the Appraiser tab |
| 06:46.16 | Nechckn | All of your auctionable goods are clearly laid out in the left column, pricing is addressed in the center, and the right frame shows you a clear view of any math that Auctioneer has performed to arrive at the suggested pricing. |
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| 06:50.49 | aju | hello - i have a question |
| 06:51.35 | aju | I liked the feature in Auctioneer classic where you can click Alt+left click on an item and it will post the itam in the auction box |
| 06:51.44 | aju | is there a feature like that in Auctioneer advance? |
| 06:52.27 | aju | that's like one the one biggest feature I miss about Auctioneeer classic |
| 06:52.39 | aju | but I was wondering if it's in Auctioneer Advance and if so - how do I enable that? |
| 06:52.46 | Nechckn | In Auctioneer you simply use the Appraiser frame |
| 06:52.54 | Nechckn | there is no need to click anything |
| 06:53.00 | Nechckn | All of your auctionable goods are clearly laid out in the left column, pricing is addressed in the center, and the right frame shows you a clear view of any math that Auctioneer has performed to arrive at the suggested pricing. |
| 06:53.23 | Grum | that 'other frame' should just be disabled :p |
| 06:53.54 | aju | so it basically lists all the stuff in your bag that can possibly be auctioned? |
| 06:54.02 | aju | and I don't have to list 1 item at a time? |
| 06:54.05 | Grum | and put a layer over it where the user has to agree to not whine about missing functionality if they do want to use it as it is not the old auctioneer! |
| 06:54.11 | Nechckn | Grum we dont like to modify the Blizzard frame- it's handy if folks think that there are issues with posting, so that they can see if the results are the same/different |
| 06:54.19 | Nechckn | lol |
| 06:54.31 | Nechckn | Aju correct |
| 06:54.49 | Grum | aju: select stacksize; amount of stacks; price per stack and hit the magic button |
| 06:54.57 | Grum | its that simple :P |
| 06:55.03 | Grum | or price per product even |
| 06:55.10 | aju | okay - I'm not oppose to learning the New UI - I just thought the old - Alt+click on item was convenient enough for me to do what I need |
| 06:55.15 | Grum | whatever blows your whistle ;P |
| 06:55.36 | Nechckn | for more, see http://wiki.norganna.org/AucAdvanced/Screens/AppraiserTab |
| 06:55.43 | aju | okay thank you |
| 06:55.45 | Grum | i fail to understand why people with the appraiser tab want to do anything with the old thing :p |
| 06:55.59 | Nechckn | It's just different is all, Grum |
| 06:56.09 | Nechckn | Honestly, I did not like it at first |
| 06:56.24 | Grum | i loved it from the first time i saw it |
| 06:56.24 | Nechckn | after 3 days I was hooked and will never go back |
| 06:56.29 | Grum | indeed |
| 06:56.33 | Grum | use it once and .. amagawd! |
| 06:56.33 | aju | speaking for myself - the old auctioneer served what I needed - I didn't need to use all the features in auctioneer |
| 06:56.43 | aju | but thank you |
| 06:56.45 | Grum | most people dont use all the features |
| 06:56.48 | Nechckn | Aju and the same holds for this version too |
| 06:56.59 | Nechckn | You only need to use the parts that serve a use |
| 06:57.06 | Grum | i only use appraiser and i like the 'more information' while searching |
| 06:57.12 | Grum | the rest of it is bloat :p |
| 06:57.19 | Nechckn | Give that Appraiser frame a run for a while- it is *very* handy |
| 06:57.38 | aju | okay - i'll take a look at the appraiser- perhaps it'll eliminate the need Alt-Click on item to post it individually |
| 06:57.46 | aju | thank you for your help |
| 06:57.49 | Grum | also Nechckn: it might be wise to start prefixing *all* the dirs auctioneer ships with with 'auc' :) |
| 06:57.49 | Nechckn | It does |
| 06:58.07 | Grum | no it doesnt :p |
| 06:58.22 | Grum | i still have stubby/informant/btmscan/beancounter etc |
| 06:58.33 | Nechckn | um... that was to Aju |
| 06:58.42 | Nechckn | said before you even make the comment |
| 06:58.52 | Grum | not on my screen :p |
| 06:59.00 | Nechckn | Odd... |
| 06:59.10 | Grum | [08:57:48] <Grum> also Nechckn: it might be wise to start prefixing *all* the dirs auctioneer ships with with 'auc' :) |
| 06:59.13 | Grum | [08:57:49] <Nechckn> It does |
| 06:59.25 | Nechckn | anyway- the biggest reason is that those are seperate |
| 06:59.37 | Nechckn | weird it's the other way here |
| 06:59.38 | Grum | legacy |
| 06:59.50 | Grum | as that would be the only valid excuse :) |
| 06:59.51 | Nechckn | no seconds displayed, though |
| 07:00.07 | Grum | its a pain in the ass to delete auctioneer :( |
| 07:00.16 | Grum | you always have lingering parts |
| 07:00.34 | Nechckn | Those can be downloaded and used seperately, they are in the Suite- but they are also offered, and used, seperately by alot of folks |
| 07:00.49 | Grum | can you get auctioneer without them? |
| 07:01.13 | Nechckn | http://AuctioneerAddOn.Com/dl |
| 07:01.41 | Nechckn | So, yeah, you can |
| 07:01.50 | Nechckn | either combined or seperate |
| 07:02.04 | Grum | 'Contains: !Swatter, Auc-Advanced, Auc-ScanData, Auc-Stat-Histogram, Auc-Stat-StdDev, EnhTooltip, Stubby' |
| 07:02.28 | Nechckn | mmmhmmm... and? |
| 07:02.39 | Grum | 3 non prefixed ? :) |
| 07:02.45 | Nechckn | you need EnhTT and Stubby if you want Auc to run |
| 07:03.07 | Grum | can you turn of any of the Auc-* addons? |
| 07:03.09 | Grum | and have it work? |
| 07:03.13 | Nechckn | and yes, those are offered as standalones, a few AddOns use 'em without anything else |
| 07:04.14 | Nechckn | And have what work? Auctioneer - yes |
| 07:05.11 | Grum | so you can not load Auc-ScanData; and the only effect would be that it wouldn't be able to scan the AH ? |
| 07:06.08 | Nechckn | http://wiki.norganna.org/Auc-ScanData |
| 07:06.56 | Nechckn | basically, if you only scan 1 faction/realm you don't need it |
| 07:07.07 | Nechckn | if you do anything more than that, you do |
| 07:08.09 | Nechckn | The actual scanner is within Auc-Advanced |
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| 07:09.39 | body | hi all |
| 07:09.54 | body | quick question on 5.1 |
| 07:10.17 | Nechckn | ok |
| 07:11.14 | body | i use to have auctioneer load on startup i see thats not in 5.1. how do i configure the 5.1 that when i highlight an item it tels me what it selling for on AH |
| 07:11.37 | body | like when it tells me it will sell to vendor |
| 07:12.06 | Nechckn | in the main options |
| 07:12.27 | Nechckn | the very first or second item in the list is like general |
| 07:12.42 | Nechckn | in there, set the scandata to always load |
| 07:12.43 | Zyzzx | Hello. I have set the bid markdown price @ 0%. Should this make the bid and buyout price the same? It is marking down a slight amount when I post my aucitons. |
| 07:13.02 | Grum | humz Nechckn; thanks for that; i'll strip it down till the bare minimum :) |
| 07:13.13 | Nechckn | Grum cool ;-) |
| 07:13.41 | Nechckn | Zyzzx do you have it set to adjust for the AH fees? |
| 07:13.50 | Nechckn | Zyzzx that will change the pricing, too |
| 07:14.11 | Grum | http://wiki.norganna.org/EnhTooltip <-- that page doesnt list Auc-Advanced; is it really needed? |
| 07:14.16 | Zyzzx | ahh.. usually something simple Thanks! :) |
| 07:14.52 | Nechckn | If you want tooltips, yes |
| 07:14.56 | Grum | i think auctioneer starts to suffer from the 'too many options' syndrome :p |
| 07:15.04 | Grum | i dont want tooltips :p |
| 07:15.05 | Nechckn | Zyzzx np, it's good when they are easy like that |
| 07:15.10 | Grum | you no touchy! =) .. mine! |
| 07:15.52 | Nechckn | Hmm.. actually, it may be some cross reference somewhere try it without |
| 07:15.57 | Zyzzx | Just curious though.. why would anyone want that on in the first place? (I've had it off since AucAdvance was in Alpha for TBC |
| 07:16.10 | Nechckn | It shouldn't be, but see what happens |
| 07:16.24 | Nechckn | Which thing? |
| 07:16.37 | Nechckn | The tooltips? |
| 07:16.42 | Zyzzx | The AH fees for Bid price |
| 07:16.45 | Nechckn | Ohhhh |
| 07:17.05 | Nechckn | meh, for those that do a ton of auctions, it takes those into account automatically |
| 07:17.40 | Zyzzx | I do 2k auctions a day.. and I Have it off... each his own I guess |
| 07:17.40 | Nechckn | That way, you will never post for less than the NPC price and the posting fees |
| 07:18.11 | Nechckn | otherwise, you could possibly throw away a few copper or silver |
| 07:18.29 | Zyzzx | I like the bid and buyout price being the same, because if someone clicks bid, they auto win with no conformation window |
| 07:18.46 | Nechckn | If you really watch the prices and keep an eye on things- then you can disable it without a worry. It's just one of those things... =) |
| 07:19.16 | Nechckn | Zyzzx I do that every so often, it depends on my mood |
| 07:19.36 | body | hey nech im under options than general..do i select force load scan data? |
| 07:19.43 | Zyzzx | Anyhow for what it's worth I *love* appriser (I saw the post on the front page) I wouldn't change a thing (or if you do, leave an option to use th e current verison) |
| 07:19.47 | Nechckn | I forget the stat, but supposedly there are like 80+ percent of all auctions are BO anywya |
| 07:20.17 | Nechckn | Zyzzx the current one will go unchanged, if anything there will be an optional "poster" |
| 07:20.17 | Zyzzx | Oh I know that.. I never bid. It's just if someone clicks bid on mine, it's theirs, no warning |
| 07:20.26 | Nechckn | body Yes |
| 07:20.31 | Nechckn | that's the one to set |
| 07:20.42 | Zyzzx | That's good. The only thing I'm trying to figure out now is the new beancounter (I know it's called something different) |
| 07:20.44 | Nechckn | hehehe |
| 07:21.08 | Nechckn | Beancounter is the same.. that's where you review your sales history |
| 07:21.17 | Zyzzx | Doh |
| 07:21.18 | Zyzzx | It's late |
| 07:21.22 | Zyzzx | I meant bottonscanner |
| 07:21.22 | Nechckn | SearchUI is what replaced BottomScanner |
| 07:21.42 | Nechckn | or is replacing |
| 07:21.56 | Nechckn | That is really nice- the whole point is this |
| 07:21.59 | body | ok when i do that and did a scan of ah it didnt tell me what item was worth when i highlighted it in inventory. I did a full scan of ah..am i missig somthing |
| 07:22.09 | Zyzzx | Right now I'm not doing any serious trading until the patch craze dies |
| 07:22.15 | Nechckn | folks used to have to set up their profile in BottomScanner then set up their searches in the Search window |
| 07:22.27 | Nechckn | now both are combined in one |
| 07:22.29 | Zyzzx | WoW stock market (i.e. the AH) is as wonky as the US stock market |
| 07:22.32 | Nechckn | so it saves some mucking around |
| 07:22.56 | Zyzzx | I never used the old search.. I used bottom scanner, and just did an AH scan |
| 07:22.59 | Nechckn | body by default all that is on is the "Appraiser" recommendation |
| 07:23.12 | Nechckn | that's because we had tons of folks saying the tooltip was too big, etc |
| 07:23.34 | Nechckn | if you want to see more or different info - go into the Stats subsection of the options |
| 07:23.56 | Nechckn | in there you will find all sorts of pricing information that you can set to show in the tooltip |
| 07:24.03 | Zyzzx | Since I like poking around... are there any other mods like BIgPicture? I know that you didn't make it, but works well with. Just wondering if there are anything else out there similar to it. |
| 07:24.21 | Nechckn | Zyzzx I originally only did the search.. then found BTM and was just amazed |
| 07:24.37 | Nechckn | and honestly.. this new thing does the job better than either of those ever did |
| 07:25.00 | Zyzzx | Just like anything else, just takes a learning curve :) I'm not worried |
| 07:25.05 | Nechckn | Afaik, Big Picture is the only stand-alone one |
| 07:25.20 | Nechckn | we gobbled up GhostfromTexas who had made "easy buyout" |
| 07:25.25 | Zyzzx | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:25.28 | Nechckn | so that is officially part of Auctioneer |
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| 07:25.44 | Zyzzx | What does that do? Sounds like I use it anyway.. |
| 07:26.10 | Nechckn | On the compactui if you hold a key and right click you buy the auction with no confirm box |
| 07:26.28 | priit | hi. I am desparate... now with wow 3.0.2 I cant find the "SearchAuction" button anymore in auctionhouse with auctioneersuite... where is it? |
| 07:26.30 | Nechckn | and you can bid by double clicking witht the left button |
| 07:26.56 | Nechckn | priit please check out SearchUI |
| 07:27.03 | Zyzzx | doh... I don't use the compact UI.. That was the one change from Classic to Advanced I didn't like |
| 07:27.12 | priit | where can I find this "SearchUI"? |
| 07:27.16 | Nechckn | accessed by right clicking the magnifying glass icon at the top of Browse Frame |
| 07:27.24 | Nechckn | or on the SlideBar menu |
| 07:27.35 | Zyzzx | But Advanced is great.. I love how confirguable it is |
| 07:27.44 | Nechckn | Zyzzx I think it will work on the default |
| 07:27.51 | priit | there is no SearchUI |
| 07:27.52 | Nechckn | turn it on in the options and see |
| 07:28.10 | Nechckn | priit you don't see the magnfying glass icon? |
| 07:28.38 | Nechckn | If not... you likely did not download the suite, only the base package that does not include it |
| 07:28.40 | priit | yes I see |
| 07:28.55 | priit | it does the same as the "play" button but in real time, no? |
| 07:28.55 | Zyzzx | oh wait, it is compact... how does it work again? |
| 07:29.25 | Nechckn | priit right click it |
| 07:29.34 | Nechckn | that will bring up the full SearchUI |
| 07:29.52 | Nechckn | left clicking turns SearchUI's realtimesearch on and off |
| 07:30.34 | Nechckn | Zyzzx on the main Browse window... I think EasyBuyout works on either view |
| 07:30.43 | Zyzzx | Nechckn where can I turn on that right click thing? |
| 07:30.46 | Nechckn | Zyzzx just enable it in the options |
| 07:30.54 | Zyzzx | sorry lag spike |
| 07:31.11 | Nechckn | Zyzzx there is an EasyBuyout section under Utilities |
| 07:31.14 | body | ty nech for your help |
| 07:31.20 | Nechckn | body np |
| 07:31.24 | Nechckn | Happy Sales! |
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| 07:31.34 | Nechckn | ok... I'll bbiab |
| 07:31.43 | Zyzzx | That is nice! |
| 07:31.44 | Diskmaster | Hey guys, which version of Auctioneer is being fed to the Curse Client? (As in, am I getting the "Auctioneer" package or the "AuctioneerSuite" package?) |
| 07:32.22 | Zyzzx | I've been using Advanced since TBC.. I learn something new every day! :) |
| 07:33.15 | priit | right clicking on the MG gives ma some complicated configurations window with too many things to look at... |
| 07:34.01 | priit | ok. could you help me how to get the fastest way possible out best buyout prices? (same thing as searchauctions did?) |
| 07:34.41 | GhostfromTexas | what I do?!?! :P |
| 07:34.49 | priit | for starters there is no search button anymore in searchui? |
| 07:35.04 | priit | only done button which closes the thing? |
| 07:35.54 | Zyzzx | Would if/then rules work for appriser? For example sell for 1 copper undercut, or if nothing posted sell @ 500% over appriser price? |
| 07:36.11 | priit | ok, found, its now on LEFT for some reason? wtf? who designed this interface? |
| 07:36.43 | priit | its against any possible comfortable UI design rules |
| 07:36.56 | Zyzzx | Just takes some getting used too pritt :) |
| 07:37.16 | Nechckn | priit the button is on the left because the searchers are all listed on the upper left |
| 07:37.18 | Zyzzx | Much better then the old /slash comands of old |
| 07:37.30 | Nechckn | and you travel to the bid/buy buttons along the way |
| 07:37.38 | Nechckn | it's the least amount of mouse travel |
| 07:37.40 | GhostfromTexas | and Nechckn, EasyBuyout works fine without compactUI enabled |
| 07:37.45 | GhostfromTexas | you don't need compactUI for it to work |
| 07:37.49 | Nechckn | GhostfromTexas couldn't remember... |
| 07:37.56 | Nechckn | I'm old and stuff |
| 07:37.59 | priit | another thing I hate is the menus on the left side but thats entirely another story... |
| 07:38.06 | GhostfromTexas | there is a problem with the modifier's though with compactUI disabled.. |
| 07:40.13 | Nechckn | priit we are always looking for UI designers - especially if they have experience with layout and design |
| 07:44.42 | Nechckn | No one is really "happy" with the lay out of searchUI , so we would be more than happy to hear your suggestions |
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| 07:46.48 | priit | another question... now the auction posting tab "Auctions" is exactly the same as without the AuctioneerSuite? |
| 07:47.33 | priit | are you going to restablish the old auctioneer layout with the bid and buyout prices closer to eachother and the "remember price" toggle? |
| 07:48.55 | cola_ZP | ~auctstuff |
| 07:48.55 | purl | I know about the following topics (type one for more info): ~aucdeletesv, ~auctioneerbeta, ~auctioneersvn, ~auctfaq, ~auctdownload, ~auctinstall, ~auctupdate, ~enxstatus, ~norgjira, ~norgbug <nickname>, ~recruitingdrive, ~transferdata |
| 07:48.57 | Nechckn | You use Appraiser to post the auctions. The prices are all stored, without the need of any button clicking. |
| 07:49.14 | Nechckn | cola_ZP is there something you need? |
| 07:49.48 | priit | about ideas... 1. searchUI window could be bigger and/OR resizable |
| 07:50.02 | priit | 2. font size could be eighter just bigger or also configurable |
| 07:50.44 | cola_ZP | Hi Nechckn. Well, actually I was wondering what happened to the Auctioneer Search Tab. I just installed the 5.1 Release Version and it seems to have disappeared. |
| 07:50.55 | priit | 3. I think there is some bug, but it doesnt show the onmouseover info for all items? for example Big Bear Meat, Tangly Clam Meat etc go without any information box |
| 07:51.39 | Nechckn | cola_ZP you right click the magnifying glass icon at the top of the Browse Frame |
| 07:52.10 | Nechckn | or the same icon on the SlideBar menu |
| 07:52.47 | Nechckn | That will open the SearchUI that combines the functions of the Search frame and BottomScanner into one module |
| 07:53.23 | Nechckn | priit it cannot be bigger- we have to deal with people running all resolutions |
| 07:53.54 | Nechckn | the font size is one of the things being looked into |
| 07:54.31 | priit | ??? I have the smallest screen possible (1280x1024) here and for me its SMALL. why cant it be fullscreen application? |
| 07:54.32 | Nechckn | As for 3- where are you not seeing the tooltip - in your bag or on the AH? |
| 07:54.45 | Nechckn | Yes.. your resolution makes the difference |
| 07:55.02 | priit | in searchUI I am not seeing the infomation thing |
| 07:55.15 | Nechckn | think of those with 800x600 |
| 07:55.20 | priit | when I mouseover the item names |
| 07:55.33 | Nechckn | and theere are a lot of folks with that... as we found out. |
| 07:55.36 | priit | cant you make the UI resizable? |
| 07:55.53 | priit | with 800x600 in mind for default size and if you have bigger screen you can drag the window bigger? |
| 07:56.06 | priit | just like you can resize chat windows |
| 07:56.52 | cola_ZP | Nechckn, I see what you mean. There used to be a search tab in between the Bottomscanner, Appraiser and/or Beancounter tabs. Do you happen to know what happened to it? |
| 07:57.16 | priit | they killed it. |
| 07:57.24 | cola_ZP | Ah. |
| 07:57.34 | Nechckn | cola_ZP The SearchUI combines the functions of the Search frame and BottomScanner into one module |
| 07:57.53 | priit | now you have to rightclock in magnifying glass and from there open Searchers -> Resale -> press Search button on LEFT bottom corner of the searchui |
| 07:58.01 | Nechckn | since we had numerous complaints that people had to set up 2 sets of criteria that were searching for the same items |
| 07:58.07 | Nechckn | this way there is only one set |
| 07:58.19 | cola_ZP | I understand. |
| 07:58.41 | cola_ZP | Thanks Nechckn, thanks priit. I guess I'll have to get used to this UI. |
| 07:58.54 | priit | yeah, same here... :) |
| 07:59.14 | Nechckn | priit Well, once you get us some mockups of a new configuration... we'll see what we can do You can email them to Nechckn (a) Norganna (d) Org |
| 07:59.30 | priit | for the old users, cant you reestablish the searchui on the bottom tab where the searchauction was? |
| 07:59.49 | Nechckn | in the mean time, we'll see if we can figure out a way to dynamically size the columns along with the window |
| 07:59.52 | priit | so there is the "SearchUI" tab, that opens the same thing as rightclick on magnifying glass? |
| 08:00.50 | Nechckn | Actually, we only had the SlideBar menu and the magnifying glass was added to go along with the scan-control buttons |
| 08:01.14 | Nechckn | So, yes, that could be done- but we decided against it |
| 08:01.28 | priit | ah is there a way to kill the slidebar thing entirely since I it always keeps popping up at the wrong moment and blocking necessary other functions on screen? |
| 08:02.03 | Nechckn | Well, you could move it or /nsb will give you the options |
| 08:02.16 | priit | tried that but there is no good place for it |
| 08:02.28 | priit | tried different locations all around the screen |
| 08:02.44 | priit | and would like now to disable it entirely :) |
| 08:03.43 | Nechckn | if you type /nsb you will see the options |
| 08:04.16 | priit | great. thanks :) |
| 08:05.45 | priit | so what about the resizable searchui? :) doable? :) |
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| 08:08.15 | Nechckn | it depends if we can figure out a way to dynamically resize the columns and the window - I seem to recall a limitation in Configator- what creates the window there- so we'll have to investigate that further. |
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| 08:12.58 | priit | menu parts can remain with the constant sizes, but only changable frame shoul dbe the middle search results area |
| 08:13.33 | priit | another question my friend is asking over MSN, in the new appraiser aucytion posting, is there a way to set the default prices to "undercutting" mode? |
| 08:13.56 | priit | so your price will be the lowest listed automatically? |
| 08:15.47 | Nechckn | Undercut is enabled by default |
| 08:16.13 | Nechckn | *but* it's a smart undercut, so it won't just post as the lowest if someone has a crazy-low price |
| 08:16.52 | Nechckn | That is fully configurable by clicking the "Configure" button and selecting Match-Undercut in the Matcher section of the options |
| 08:18.24 | priit | when does the smart thing realize some items price is dropped permanently and dramatically? |
| 08:18.49 | priit | so previous crazy-low is now the sad-but-true-real-price? |
| 08:18.56 | Nechckn | That is configurable |
| 08:19.41 | Nechckn | it's in percents, you say I want to undercut, up to XX% |
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| 08:22.22 | Nechckn | All of the options have popup, tooltip help text, so it's pretty easy to read- plus, if you have an item selected in Appraiser, the price will change as you muck around with the settings |
| 08:22.36 | Nechckn | That way you can see how your changes will impact things right away |
| 08:23.01 | Nechckn | ok.. I'm about wrecked... off for a bit. |
| 08:24.11 | priit | thanks for information. I will logoff too from here now and try to play :D |
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| 08:37.35 | Wolfie | hi all |
| 08:39.18 | Wolfie | i cant get uactioneer 5.1 to throw the buyout and price on whewn im selling items can anybody help? |
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| 08:44.48 | priit | about appraiser Ui upgrade: duration modifying has to change to what its in default with 3 buttons |
| 08:44.53 | priit | this dragging is sick |
| 08:45.24 | priit | also auction creation costs should be shown there. |
| 08:55.51 | priit | also where I can set auction price in auctioneer per stack, not per item? |
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| 09:40.21 | NIbi | Hey guys.. WHY oh WHY is the remember last price option gone from Auctioneer... |
| 09:40.40 | NIbi | It is horrible to have to type the prices in over and over again.. |
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| 09:42.16 | NIbi | In fact why scan autions if you get so battered down by having to type all prices again and again.. |
| 09:42.30 | NIbi | The point is lost without that option... :( |
| 09:49.32 | NIbi | Anyone even reading here? |
| 09:59.18 | NIbi | ? |
| 10:10.32 | Grum | no |
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| 11:49.41 | sag_ich_nicht | ~asktoask |
| 11:49.42 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
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| 12:40.05 | Davlan | hey can anyone answer me a quick question? |
| 12:41.12 | Davlan | Well peeps may be busy so i will ask and then..keep checking back.. |
| 12:42.42 | Davlan | Where has the Red Scan Button Gone, Post Auctions etc, when i use the > button to scan it scans but when it no longer shows "seen", BO, or min bo when highlighting items in bags> what am i doing wrong? |
| 12:48.14 | ^nbot | Bug 03ENX-63 10zorbathut: Enchantrix confuses "Dream Dust" and "Dream Shards"06* (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ENX-63 10 |
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| 12:49.12 | ZorbaTHut | anyone around that I can bring http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ENX-63 to the attention of? It's a simple bug to fix but it's a major issue in functionality. |
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| 12:59.38 | XThief | Hello! |
| 12:59.59 | XThief | Can anyone help me? |
| 13:00.26 | XThief | I try to ignore an user from the auction house but it still appear in the list |
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| 13:03.47 | Night | bug |
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| 13:16.12 | tmanr | read all stickies: still how do u now enter specific search param's w/o search tab? |
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| 13:27.50 | davk57 | Hello all |
| 13:28.30 | mattbnr | hello |
| 13:29.06 | davk57 | Sorry for my English, but i'm french and I have some problems with auctioneer |
| 13:29.46 | mattbnr | ok what are the problems |
| 13:29.47 | davk57 | It doesn't work : I explain : I can scan, but when I see a item I don't see the price ect... |
| 13:30.48 | mattbnr | http://forums.norganna.org/discussion/8100/patch-day-blues-an-upgrade-and-new-user-faq/ have you checked the forums |
| 13:31.18 | mattbnr | the forums address alto of the issues people are seeing with auctioneer |
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| 13:32.22 | davk57 | It's hard for me ton understand English ^^ |
| 13:33.58 | ZorbaTHut | I hope you guys either unmothball bottomscanner or desuckify searchui. I haven't been able to get searchui to be anywhere near acceptable - it's slower, harder to use, and it seems to constantly lose things that I try to purchase |
| 13:34.24 | mattbnr | you can download bottomscanner from the downlaod page |
| 13:34.30 | mattbnr | its just separate |
| 13:34.39 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, I did, but there are lots of places saying "it might stop working soon and we don't care" |
| 13:34.55 | mattbnr | what ind of problems are you ahving with searchui |
| 13:35.01 | mattbnr | I use it every day and have no problems |
| 13:35.52 | ZorbaTHut | well, for example, one of the things I do frequently is scan weapons and armor for disenchanting |
| 13:35.52 | mattbnr | have you read the guides for searchui? |
| 13:35.52 | mattbnr | ok so you use the disenchant searcher |
| 13:35.52 | ZorbaTHut | with bottomscanner, that's easy - I turn it on, then just skim through the weapons and armor pages, rapidly clicking "buy" whenever bottomscanner picks up another page |
| 13:35.58 | mattbnr | sui is easier the that |
| 13:36.17 | mattbnr | do a ah scan hit the de searcher hit search it brings it all up in a list then just sort through what you want |
| 13:36.18 | ZorbaTHut | with searchui, I first scan the segments. then I open up searchui and choose the disenchant searcher, than search. then I hit the "buy" button a lot, and *then* I sit there and wait while it searches for each item individually |
| 13:36.31 | ZorbaTHut | bringing up a dialog box for each item I want to buy, forcing me to click "buy" a *second* time |
| 13:36.46 | ZorbaTHut | and half the time it stops midway through and I have to open and close the auction house to get it to continue |
| 13:36.50 | mattbnr | the second click is needed |
| 13:37.06 | ZorbaTHut | it's needed because searchui does things in a horrible way :P |
| 13:37.20 | ZorbaTHut | bottomscan only needs one click. searchui takes two, with a huge delay between clicks. |
| 13:37.32 | mattbnr | no its needed cause of the way the window has to interface with the wow api |
| 13:37.32 | ZorbaTHut | this is a functionality loss. |
| 13:37.44 | mattbnr | its because sui is a separate window where btm wasnt |
| 13:37.50 | ZorbaTHut | yes, I realize that. I'm saying it's *bad*. |
| 13:38.02 | ZorbaTHut | I'd rather use bottomscanner - it's easier and faster. |
| 13:38.06 | ZorbaTHut | and it doesn't require extra clicks. |
| 13:38.36 | ZorbaTHut | if you bought a new car, and the dealer said "oh yeah, you have to push it instead of driving it, that's just due to how the car is built" you'd be calling it a crappy car. searchui is - for the things I want to do, at least - a crappy interface. :P |
| 13:39.13 | XThief | maybe you didnt find the right way of doing it |
| 13:39.16 | mattbnr | I use it for de every day as well and have no problems with it I relaize the extra click is kinda irritating and the extra searching is irritating but those are needed features |
| 13:39.27 | ZorbaTHut | why are they needed features? |
| 13:39.46 | mattbnr | because searchui runs off the last snapshot of the ah |
| 13:39.54 | ZorbaTHut | Right. That, also, is something I don't want. |
| 13:40.01 | mattbnr | so when you bring up the lsit and hit buy it has to look for that item on the current ah |
| 13:40.12 | mattbnr | to make sure its till there |
| 13:40.20 | ZorbaTHut | See, you're trying to explain why searchui does things I don't want - and you're doing it by explaining *features I also don't want* |
| 13:40.31 | ZorbaTHut | I don't care about AH snapshotting, I have a market alt for that. If I want to look at the market, I just look at it. |
| 13:40.45 | ZorbaTHut | when I'm scanning the market, I want to buy things *when I see them* |
| 13:40.49 | mattbnr | you don't have to use sui |
| 13:40.53 | XThief | you still can download bottomscanner |
| 13:40.54 | mattbnr | its completely optional |
| 13:41.02 | ZorbaTHut | which brings up back to the beginning of the conversation |
| 13:41.10 | ZorbaTHut | when I said "I hope they don't get rid of it, like they seem to be planning to do" |
| 13:41.11 | ZorbaTHut | :) |
| 13:41.21 | XThief | oh |
| 13:41.27 | mattbnr | sui will eventually replace btm yes that is a fact |
| 13:41.39 | ZorbaTHut | see, I think that's a terrible decision |
| 13:41.47 | ZorbaTHut | sui is inferior to bottomscanner in several ways |
| 13:42.02 | mattbnr | many people don't see it that way |
| 13:42.22 | XThief | Can i ask you a question? |
| 13:42.35 | mattbnr | yes there are still some bugs to work out of it and get it streamlined but we will get there |
| 13:42.38 | ZorbaTHut | xthief, who, me, or matt? (comedy "you just did" answer, and if it's me, go for it) |
| 13:42.48 | ZorbaTHut | mattbnr, but from what you're saying, searchui will *never* be as streamlined as bottomscanner is |
| 13:42.54 | ZorbaTHut | you will always require the "extra click" |
| 13:43.20 | mattbnr | they are trying to find a way around it but with the limitations that bliz puts on the devs that click may be a required thing forever |
| 13:43.27 | ZorbaTHut | but, I mean, there's my point again |
| 13:43.28 | ZorbaTHut | it isn't required |
| 13:43.30 | XThief | in my AH a lot of people put some incredible prices to some items, like put to Runecloth price 999 gold, making the media go up |
| 13:43.31 | ZorbaTHut | bottomscanner doesn't require it |
| 13:43.32 | ZorbaTHut | :P |
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| 13:43.35 | mattbnr | we can only do things in the way that bliz allows us |
| 13:43.39 | XThief | what do you to avoid this? |
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| 13:44.09 | ZorbaTHut | xthief, on my server, I've got a few advantages - it's a small server, so not many people do that |
| 13:44.34 | ZorbaTHut | I also have my own plugin that does something similar to the "Purchased" plugin, but with slightly better data smoothing, and I'm working on a larger-scale plugin to get much better information on pricing. |
| 13:44.34 | mib_i37s1vtq | Hey guys, I seem to have an odd thing happening to me with Gatherer. I have a 'map' floating around me in the gameworld. But can this be disabled without losing the minimap nodes? |
| 13:44.44 | ZorbaTHut | relying on the prices you see posted is a bad idea - those are the prices that they aren't selling things at. :P |
| 13:44.45 | XThief | but if someone does it, what can you do? |
| 13:45.21 | ZorbaTHut | well, my plugin only notices if someone buys it (or if they cancel it early) |
| 13:45.21 | Aesir | Xthief - you may set filters in your AH scandata that skips prices that are too high or too low according to your preferences. Check out the Outlier filter options |
| 13:45.28 | ZorbaTHut | most people aren't smart enough to cancel it early |
| 13:45.45 | XThief | Aesier looks like my filters arent working |
| 13:45.46 | ZorbaTHut | my nextgen framework will just ignore outliers :P |
| 13:45.55 | XThief | cause i ignore those users, and still appear in the list |
| 13:46.16 | XThief | ZorbaTHut can you share the addon? |
| 13:46.30 | Aesir | I might be making this up, but I think it still shows the users - but won't include their auctions in the Statistics modules |
| 13:46.56 | ZorbaTHut | xthief, it's a little finicky and buggy. it's also how I make a lot of money ;) I'm keeping it for now :) |
| 13:47.12 | XThief | ZorbaTHut thanks then... xD |
| 13:47.16 | shinzoy | Question aimed at anyone who can answer, since the patch i deleted the entire addons folder to get just new and upto date mods and i downloaded 5.1. |
| 13:47.36 | XThief | Aesir i think still include them |
| 13:47.45 | mib_i37s1vtq | I put up a screenshot for explaining my Gatherer 'issue' a bit better: http://xs132.xs.to/xs132/08424/wowscrnshot_101608_153514573.jpg |
| 13:47.46 | shinzoy | and i get an aunc scan data error when i log in |
| 13:47.54 | Aesir | XThief, then... we need to dig into that deeper. |
| 13:47.59 | XThief | as my DB is really new and i tried ignoring an user, and the media still the same |
| 13:48.18 | shinzoy | also therre seem to not have a remember price feature to auctioneer |
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| 13:50.03 | davk57 | re |
| 13:50.23 | davk57 | I understrand why I can see nothing in the items |
| 13:50.30 | davk57 | But where is the bouton "search" ? |
| 13:50.57 | davk57 | You now to find item to buy and then to sell |
| 13:51.25 | shinzoy | Actual error Auc-ScanData module cannot be loaded |
| 13:52.12 | davk57 | Ok, so I must use BtmScan ? |
| 13:55.40 | Aesir | catching up |
| 13:56.44 | davk57 | ? |
| 13:57.00 | Aesir | one sec, trying to catch up to the several questions asked. |
| 13:57.11 | Aesir | And figure out if I actually can help or not |
| 13:58.02 | ZorbaTHut | (also if there's someone here who has commit capabilities I'd like it if they could take a look at http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ENX-63 ) |
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| 13:58.35 | Aesir | Xtheif - I'm aware of an issue we're still tracking with respect to certain saved (or rather, not saved) settings or profiles. Your issue *might* be related. Try a forum search for now to see if others report similar issues. http://forums.norganna.org/4/ |
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| 13:59.07 | mattbnr | as far as the enx problems I think it has been fixed in the svnand will be ina futurue build |
| 13:59.21 | ZorbaTHut | ah, cool |
| 14:00.13 | Aesir | Shinzoy - Posts from the Appraiser tab should auto-store fixed price or manually entered pricing for your items. Eliminates the check box from Auctioneer Classic as a way to streamline the posting process - but it appears to be confusing our users. |
| 14:00.48 | Aesir | Shinzoy - as for the error you can post a swatter log on our forums... or here. |
| 14:00.55 | Aesir | ~norbug |
| 14:01.25 | Aesir | matt, what's the awesome bot script rock uses that loads up instructions on pastey? |
| 14:03.26 | Aesir | Shinzoy - post up your swatter error at http://norganna.pastey.net/ create the URL and post the URL here if you don't want to check/post on the forums. |
| 14:03.38 | XThief | Aesir already looked for the problem there and didnt find anyone with the same problem |
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| 14:04.30 | Aesir | Xthief - ok, you can post at the pastey link I spewed out to Shinzoy as well - it'll let you paste in the full swatter error text, and give you a URL you can use to paste in chat here. |
| 14:05.52 | XThief | http://norganna.pastey.net/98448 |
| 14:06.11 | mattbnr | looks like bliz error to me |
| 14:06.23 | Aesir | davk57... if you are looking for the SearchUI , which is intended to replace BTMscan, right click the magnifying glass icon atop the AH window to set search settings. Left-click it to run a real-time search. |
| 14:06.44 | mattbnr | there is a guide on the forums about searchui |
| 14:07.05 | Aesir | I can't tell from that. Only blizz confirmed error I'm aware of is the blizzard_* window frame one. |
| 14:08.11 | Aesir | Xthief -hard to say... because thats the 38th error logged. It's possible that's not the 'right' error. try this, in game type "/swat clear" in chatbox to clear the log. Then reproduce the error and come back and post a new pastey. I know it's a hassle, but it will help. |
| 14:08.47 | Aesir | ZorbaTHut do you write addons? You're name is familiar |
| 14:09.02 | ZorbaTHut | aesir, this is why I have my error logger rigged to only report the first error ;) |
| 14:09.16 | ZorbaTHut | I think you were the dude in #c++, right? I convinced you to fix a problem I'd posted on Jira |
| 14:09.47 | Aesir | Not me. I'm just a hacker that fiddles with typos and minor bug fixing. |
| 14:10.05 | XThief | Aesir now i dont get any error |
| 14:10.18 | ZorbaTHut | hmm, maybe not then. your name looks familiar to me too :P I do write an addon, I recently took over Questhelper |
| 14:10.30 | Aesir | XThief ... oddly, I'm ok with that! That sounds like good news to me. *pats self on back* My work here is done! |
| 14:10.44 | XThief | XD |
| 14:10.52 | Aesir | that's it. Thanks for picking that up. |
| 14:11.02 | XThief | so there is no problem with ignore? |
| 14:11.06 | Aesir | *Zorba.. one sec about your link. |
| 14:11.44 | Aesir | XThief, that ignore list thing might still be an issue. Like I mentioned, we're tracking an issue with certain settings/profiles saving. It *might* be related. |
| 14:12.02 | XThief | ok |
| 14:12.21 | XThief | are you the creator of this mod Aesir? |
| 14:12.31 | Aesir | I don't have a solution for you now, however. I'd surprised if Auctioneer suite weren't updated a few times in the coming days/weeks though. |
| 14:12.35 | XThief | addon* |
| 14:12.41 | Aesir | No, Xthief. Just a minor contributor. |
| 14:12.52 | XThief | oh i see |
| 14:13.56 | Aesir | Zorba, we might be stepping on something. Had to specifically do something in code to account for a itemlink conflict, iirc. Let me look at commit logs, because the change went in yesterday/early this morning |
| 14:14.19 | ZorbaTHut | aesir, it's a pretty simple bug - whoever put in the new constant for DREAM shards didn't realize there was already DREAM dust |
| 14:14.30 | mattbnr | that has already been fixed |
| 14:14.31 | ZorbaTHut | it's not even an itemlink issue, it's just a bunch of constants that were put in to make the table readable |
| 14:14.39 | ZorbaTHut | and yeah, if it's already been fixed, no worries |
| 14:14.41 | Aesir | Yeah, pretty sure that was committed to svn yesterday. Let me confirm. |
| 14:14.52 | mattbnr | I think it was I updated today |
| 14:15.11 | Aesir | today/yesterday = same period for me. I've had 3 hours sleep. |
| 14:16.08 | Aesir | was committed ~7pm EDT yesterday, Zorba. |
| 14:16.36 | Aesir | btw, questhelper map button and mapster map button hate each other. Or love each other so much that they live on top of one another. :) |
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| 14:17.08 | ZorbaTHut | cool. and ha :) |
| 14:17.14 | ZorbaTHut | it's kind of an obvious place to put a button, I suppose |
| 14:17.31 | Aesir | pretty sure Cartographer did the same thing. |
| 14:18.41 | XThief | http://i65.servimg.com/u/f65/13/05/39/59/auctio10.jpg - what value should i look in that item to see the average price? |
| 14:19.05 | ZorbaTHut | xthief, define "average". it's a surprisingly complex concept. |
| 14:19.08 | XThief | cause Simple gives me 38 g |
| 14:19.20 | XThief | and histogram gives me 4g |
| 14:19.27 | XThief | i mean a good price for the item |
| 14:19.44 | XThief | what would be a good price for selling the item |
| 14:20.02 | XThief | so people buys it but also that isnt too cheap so i dont loose money |
| 14:20.46 | mattbnr | what do you use as your main pricing model? I don't see it suggesting a price on the tootip |
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| 14:21.27 | XThief | i dont know |
| 14:21.38 | XThief | im trying to get a suggested price |
| 14:21.45 | XThief | but i dont know which one would be |
| 14:21.47 | Aesir | yeah, needs to check/set tooltip options according to preferences, I think. Might be worth reading a bit on the wiki to understand what the stats modules and ItemSuggest module does. |
| 14:22.24 | mattbnr | there should be a line on your tooltip that says "appraiser (market (or what ever your main pricing modle is) ) suggested= XXg |
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| 14:23.42 | mattbnr | http://up.norganna.org/index.php/vA7S1U0/WoWScrnShot_101608_092226.jpg look at my tooltip |
| 14:24.03 | mattbnr | the line there that says appraiser (histogram) x1 is the suggested price for the item |
| 14:24.35 | XThief | i see |
| 14:24.41 | XThief | x1 what does that mean? |
| 14:24.53 | mattbnr | it means for 1x of those items that is the suggested price |
| 14:25.16 | XThief | i see |
| 14:25.36 | mattbnr | http://up.norganna.org/index.php/vK6JW0T/WoWScrnShot_101608_092501.jpg |
| 14:25.51 | mattbnr | just like on that one it says suggest x9 as that stack is a stack of 9 |
| 14:26.20 | XThief | http://up.norganna.org/index.php/vGlHGK2/auctioneerr1.JPG |
| 14:26.23 | XThief | now its there |
| 14:26.47 | mattbnr | yeah |
| 14:26.55 | mattbnr | your using market as your pricing model |
| 14:26.57 | XThief | how did you put the alakhazam price? |
| 14:27.23 | mattbnr | its a addon called going price |
| 14:27.48 | XThief | but is giving you a high price, right? |
| 14:27.57 | mattbnr | yeah my market is crap right now |
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| 14:28.08 | mattbnr | everything is dropping in price |
| 14:28.22 | XThief | you use the Histogram for the appraiser? |
| 14:29.04 | mattbnr | yeah |
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| 14:34.41 | Aesir | histogram is my personal fav, but only after I've built up a decent scan history. |
| 14:36.19 | XThief | what does the IQR mean? |
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| 14:39.20 | Aesir | Inter-Quartile Range - simple, but slightly erroneous description - you look at the spread of prices, it divides that into quarters (lowest, low, high, highest). It picks the two middle quarters to use as a baseline spread to calculate a recommended price. This helps eliminate poisoned stats coming from outliers that price too high or too low. |
| 14:40.32 | RockSlice | Aesir: how is it erroneous? |
| 14:40.58 | Aesir | My definition is erroneous because I didn't want to write a term paper on it. I skipped out some details. |
| 14:41.13 | Aesir | But it's close enough to work with, I think :) |
| 14:42.17 | RockSlice | I think you're a bit confused. IQR isn't a recommended price. It's to a median what stddev is to a mean |
| 14:43.21 | Aesir | So I *was* correct. I did give an erroneous description. Help out XThief and I then please, Rock! |
| 14:43.42 | RockSlice | XThief: ^^^ |
| 14:43.45 | XThief | xD |
| 14:44.15 | RockSlice | for Histogram, it developes the "5-number-summary" internally. |
| 14:44.40 | RockSlice | Meaning it takes the min and max, then finds the center value, the median |
| 14:45.13 | XThief | does it take the very high prices also? |
| 14:45.26 | RockSlice | so if the dataset was 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,12,45,78,999 |
| 14:45.37 | RockSlice | your min would be 1, the max 999 |
| 14:45.38 | XThief | for example if a item price is 1 g and someone puts an item for 999g |
| 14:46.14 | RockSlice | the median is the center value: 6, with 5 values higher and 5 lower |
| 14:46.25 | XThief | i see |
| 14:46.31 | XThief | cool thing |
| 14:46.42 | XThief | i studied that at college xD |
| 14:46.57 | RockSlice | it then finds the Q1 point (first quartile) which is halfway between min and median - 3 |
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| 14:47.17 | RockSlice | and the Q3, halfway between median and max - 45 |
| 14:47.26 | XThief | i see |
| 14:47.31 | RockSlice | the IQR is simply Q3-Q1: 42 |
| 14:47.42 | XThief | oh |
| 14:48.04 | RockSlice | as the IQR is way bigger than the median, you know just from those two numbers that the prices are very spread out |
| 14:48.18 | XThief | i see |
| 14:48.42 | XThief | would be good to take out the Gold icon from there |
| 14:48.51 | XThief | cause i think it confuses averyone |
| 14:49.01 | mattbnr | why |
| 14:49.04 | mattbnr | I don't even look at it |
| 14:49.19 | RockSlice | the great thing about median is that it's very hard to poison |
| 14:49.20 | Aesir | Rock, Histo isn't using IQR in it's formula to suggest a 'sane' price? Oops. I've been doing it wrong. |
| 14:49.29 | XThief | cause people like me thinks its another formula for calculating the price |
| 14:49.38 | XThief | no |
| 14:49.46 | RockSlice | Aesir: the median is a 'sane' price already |
| 14:50.02 | XThief | IQR it gives you the idea of how spread the prices are |
| 14:50.03 | RockSlice | outliers (like the 999) don't affect it much |
| 14:50.41 | Aesir | Thanks |
| 14:50.49 | RockSlice | the median and IQR would be exactly the same if the 999 had been a 46 |
| 14:50.56 | XThief | is there any website with the formulas? |
| 14:51.07 | Aesir | wikipedia |
| 14:51.15 | Aesir | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interquartile_range |
| 14:51.19 | Aesir | just looked at it |
| 14:51.20 | XThief | i mean the formulas of the auctioner |
| 14:51.52 | Aesir | http://wiki.norganna.org/Auctioneer/Item_Values |
| 14:52.04 | RockSlice | http://forums.norganna.org/discussion/8012/statistics-for-dummies/#Item_3 |
| 14:52.10 | Aesir | Or that. |
| 14:53.54 | XThief | great |
| 14:54.02 | XThief | thank you for the help :D |
| 14:54.10 | Aesir | Have fun! |
| 14:54.24 | RockSlice | np |
| 14:54.44 | XThief | in the auction browser |
| 14:54.51 | XThief | there is a Pct value |
| 14:55.05 | XThief | is it calculated from the median? |
| 14:55.12 | XThief | or from the market value? |
| 14:55.20 | RockSlice | that's be default calculated from the market value |
| 14:55.26 | RockSlice | *by |
| 14:55.38 | XThief | can i change it to the median? |
| 14:55.42 | RockSlice | but you can change that in the Util Modules-Pricelevel section |
| 14:56.12 | XThief | ok, thanks! |
| 14:57.11 | XThief | is it a good way of scanning to leave the wow open 24 hours with the Real Time Search? |
| 14:57.23 | XThief | or better to do it 2 times a day? |
| 14:58.12 | RockSlice | 2 times a day will get you decent data |
| 14:58.23 | XThief | ok |
| 14:58.37 | RockSlice | 4 times a day will get you really good data (as purchased can then start collecting data) |
| 14:59.04 | XThief | i see |
| 15:04.59 | XThief | wouldnt be better to put the IQR in percentage? |
| 15:05.24 | RockSlice | that would be another way of showing it |
| 15:05.35 | RockSlice | would also work for stddev |
| 15:05.54 | XThief | cause have to think all the time |
| 15:06.14 | XThief | if 1 g in IQR is important depending the price of the item |
| 15:06.24 | XThief | if the item costs 500 g |
| 15:06.29 | XThief | 1 gold is nothing |
| 15:07.01 | XThief | but if the item cost 1,4 g, 1 g is a lot of spread |
| 15:07.14 | RockSlice | please add jiras for that for Auc-Stat-Histogram and Auc-Stat-Stddev |
| 15:08.31 | XThief | jiras? |
| 15:10.07 | RockSlice | ~norgjira |
| 15:10.08 | purl | If you need to submit a ticket about one of our projects, head on over to http://jira.norganna.org . You need to log in to create a ticket, but you can just use your forum account. |
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| 15:38.19 | ^nbot | Task 03BCNT-212 10kandoko: Add itemstring integrity checking to the Database maintenance function.06 (04In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-212 10 |
| 15:38.52 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: 03kandoko * r3618 10BeanCounter/ (BeanCounter.lua BeanCounterUpdate.lua): |
| 15:38.52 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: Fixes BCNT-212 |
| 15:38.52 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: Adds new itemstring integrity test. Runs check on DB so backup saved files just in case. |
| 15:43.15 | ^nbot | New Feature 03ASER-115 10RockSlice: Have a default saved search that doesn't need to be saved manually06* (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-115 10 |
| 15:45.13 | ^nbot | New Feature 03ASER-116 10RockSlice: Add callback to searcher/filter modules telling them to reload their settings06* (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-116 10 |
| 15:49.15 | ^nbot | Bug 03BCNT-209 10kandoko: Compact function causes lockups (seems to be restoring teh compressed data is the issue)06 (04In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-209 10kandoko: Temp fix BCNT-209 Temporarily disable the 40 day old data... |
| 15:53.08 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: 03kandoko * r3619 10BeanCounter/BeanCounterSearch.lua: |
| 15:53.08 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: Fix BCNT-209 |
| 15:53.08 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: Re-enables the 40 day old data compression function. Lockups corrected by http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-210 and http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-212. |
| 15:55.14 | ^nbot | Task 03BCNT-212 10kandoko: Add itemstring integrity checking to the Database maintenance function.06 (04Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-212 10kandoko: r3619 Re-enable compression functions. This no longer cau... |
| 15:55.21 | ^nbot | Bug 03ASER-117 10asgeirr: Bean Counter Integration06* (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-117 10 |
| 15:56.16 | ^nbot | Task 03BCNT-212 10kandoko: Add itemstring integrity checking to the Database maintenance function.06 (04Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-212 10kandoko: r3618 |
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| 16:01.14 | Tuph | anyone have a problem with auctioneer simple stats displaying in tooltip? |
| 16:01.38 | RockSlice | have you checked your settings? |
| 16:02.13 | Tuph | yea. not many. i selected the show tooltip in the stat modules and scanned entire AH. stil no tooltips |
| 16:03.11 | RockSlice | can you take a screenshot showing the tooltip, and the Stat-Simple settings? |
| 16:03.58 | Tuph | are you a designer? how would i link the screenshot? |
| 16:04.58 | RockSlice | hit printscreen, and look in the Screenshots folder for a jpg |
| 16:05.14 | RockSlice | then upload it to up.norganna.org, and post the link to it |
| 16:06.52 | SNiLD | well actually wow saves as tga but anyways |
| 16:07.14 | RockSlice | you on a mac? |
| 16:07.23 | SNiLD | me? |
| 16:07.28 | RockSlice | it saves as jpg for me |
| 16:07.28 | viisual | I AM! |
| 16:07.36 | SNiLD | i'm on pc |
| 16:07.47 | viisual | cmt + shift + 4! |
| 16:07.49 | SNiLD | and it has been saving as tga for ages :/ |
| 16:08.15 | Aesir | snild, with 3.0 the default is .jpg now. You can still set the option in wtf for 'tga'. |
| 16:08.15 | RockSlice | just rechecked. still jpg for me |
| 16:08.23 | SNiLD | ! |
| 16:08.26 | SNiLD | that's nice |
| 16:08.27 | RockSlice | ah |
| 16:08.28 | Aesir | Yes, it's true. |
| 16:08.33 | SNiLD | because one screenshot takes 5MB :S |
| 16:08.50 | SNiLD | as tga that is |
| 16:09.00 | Aesir | I prefer TGA to start with. I can save down to jpg or pga or whatever as needed. |
| 16:09.07 | Tuph | http://up.norganna.org/index.php/vxm7Dlk/WoWScrnShot_101608_120741.jpg |
| 16:09.49 | Tuph | Shows the settings, the search window showing that items exist in AH and tooltip |
| 16:11.54 | Tuph | And off-topic, i would like to add myself to a fan of the old-pre 5.1 version. sometimes complexity isnt the best |
| 16:12.17 | SNiLD | you mean auctioneer classic? |
| 16:12.36 | Tuph | no, not that simple. but the version that was the standing release version for WoW 2.4 |
| 16:13.36 | SNiLD | hm isn't the only difference the absence of btmscanner? |
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| 16:14.16 | Tuph | perhaps i AM talking about classic. I liked the version where the Scan button actually said "Scan" and not the "play/pause/stop" buttons |
| 16:14.17 | Kamicase13 | hello all, anyone around that can answer a few questions? :) |
| 16:14.39 | SNiLD | yeah classic had the scan button ;) |
| 16:14.51 | SNiLD | ask away Kamicase13 |
| 16:14.54 | Aesir | Hi, Kami, just go ahead and ask |
| 16:14.54 | Tuph | Ok...is there a classic version for 3.0? |
| 16:15.02 | SNiLD | nope, it's discontinued |
| 16:15.17 | Tuph | Figured. bring it back, haha j/k |
| 16:15.26 | Tuph | But still doesnt explain why im not seeing the tooltips |
| 16:15.35 | Kamicase13 | well i had the classic one for ages, and ofc after the new patch i had to install the 5.1 version, but i cant make the program read my old saved variables |
| 16:15.38 | SNiLD | well i agree that some interface improvements could be made ;) |
| 16:15.52 | SNiLD | with improvements i mean simplification |
| 16:16.31 | SNiLD | Kamicase13: yes unfortunately afaik you can't use the classic data for advanced |
| 16:16.47 | RockSlice | Tuph: did you get any processing after searching? |
| 16:16.49 | Kamicase13 | ohhhhhhhhhhh ...... |
| 16:16.53 | SNiLD | Kamicase13: but the good thing is that the whole item table is reseted as well due to wotlk |
| 16:17.02 | Kamicase13 | hummmmm |
| 16:17.29 | Tuph | RockSlice: yes. it said it completed. Search like 10k+ items |
| 16:17.34 | Kamicase13 | ok i guess i create the database again :) thxs for help :) |
| 16:17.37 | Aesir | Pretty sure that when updating to Auc from Classic, it should have imported history data *if* the update instructions were followed. |
| 16:17.39 | Kamicase13 | *ill |
| 16:18.17 | Aesir | I personally had no classic data to import, I've only used the adv suite prior to 3.0. Rock might be able to confirm. |
| 16:18.38 | Tuph | SNiLD: totally kick-ass idea --> Add a profile setting allowing you to change auctioneer settings from character to character. Then --> make one of the preset settings "Auctioneer Classic" |
| 16:19.17 | SNiLD | there are profile settings already |
| 16:19.31 | Tuph | okay, then even easier. add a "Classic" setting |
| 16:19.47 | Tuph | wont' change the UI but at least tooltip options and such are preset |
| 16:19.48 | SNiLD | what did the classic have that advanced hasn't? |
| 16:19.54 | SNiLD | aside from the scan button ;) |
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| 16:21.09 | Aesir | We could perhaps fit the word 'Scan' in that "play" icon. In like 4pt type. ;) |
| 16:21.26 | Tuph | here's my biggest/only problem with advanced (besides the post items on AH tab which can be customized sort of) is the item tooltips. it went from being simple to you guys having like 4-5 separate add-on folders "Stat-Simple" "Stat-Histogram" "Stat-Calculus" "Stat-Linear Geometric Projection" |
| 16:22.04 | RockSlice | lol |
| 16:22.07 | SNiLD | Tuph: how come you have so little options in your config window? did you download the whole suite or just parts of it? |
| 16:22.08 | Aesir | Tuph, if you disable the others, and leave just (e.g., Simple) one, does that bring it closer to what you want? |
| 16:22.53 | Tuph | #SNiLD yes. I only have advanced, scan data, and stat-simple and stat-classic |
| 16:23.16 | Tuph | Aesir, it would except its not showing the data |
| 16:23.18 | SNiLD | and you have which stat module selected in the appraiser? |
| 16:23.33 | Tuph | I have both simple and classic. (neither shows tho) |
| 16:24.02 | SNiLD | simple as the primary and classic as secondary? |
| 16:24.11 | Aesir | Tuph, I walked into this convo late. Did anyone walk you through turning on or confirming your tooltip options in each stats module? |
| 16:24.29 | Tuph | um, i dont know where i would set secondary or primary. but i have both enabled. |
| 16:24.50 | Aesir | SNiLD is on to something, I think |
| 16:24.54 | SNiLD | in your screenshot under the "Util Modules" you see a "Appraiser" tree item |
| 16:25.00 | RockSlice | Tuph: Aesir: the settings are proper. |
| 16:25.06 | RockSlice | tooltip data should be showing up |
| 16:25.30 | Aesir | k |
| 16:27.34 | Tuph | SNiLD, wouldnt the appraiser tree item affect the Appraiser tab? not the item tooltip in my backpack/bags? |
| 16:28.35 | SNiLD | no not just appraiser tab |
| 16:28.45 | SNiLD | but it shouldn't affect the tooltip stuff? |
| 16:29.07 | SNiLD | the pricing model you choose in the appraiser will be used all over the place :S |
| 16:29.39 | viisual | What's the best model to use /flee |
| 16:29.44 | SNiLD | but granted that can't be the case with the tooltip :/ |
| 16:29.44 | SNiLD | you did install the EnhTooltip didn't you? |
| 16:30.02 | SNiLD | viisual: depends what you want ofc ;) |
| 16:30.11 | SNiLD | viisual: the market is best for most people |
| 16:30.24 | Tuph | of course EnHtooltip is installed |
| 16:30.27 | viisual | I like sales =P |
| 16:30.34 | SNiLD | oh |
| 16:30.47 | viisual | For ench at least, not sure what to use for glyphs yet... but I'm still waiting for the market to even out |
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| 16:30.51 | SNiLD | i never get anything sold... ;) |
| 16:31.25 | Darknez | Hi all |
| 16:31.43 | XThief | can anyone explain me this:http://up.norganna.org/index.php/vY0PlpB/WoWScrnShot_101608_132809.jpg - Histogram says the mediam is 4g and Appraiser, puts the buyout at 19g |
| 16:31.56 | Darknez | Anyone having issues with LUA errors & Stubby? |
| 16:32.53 | SNiLD | well ... no? |
| 16:32.59 | SNiLD | stubby is catching them nicely :( |
| 16:33.00 | SNiLD | :) |
| 16:33.00 | Darknez | hmm :( |
| 16:33.13 | Darknez | ^.^ |
| 16:33.36 | Darknez | Seems to be some issue with the ChatFrame.. I can't see Guildchat any more (mine or others) |
| 16:33.53 | Darknez | if I turn off stubby, the rest of auctioneer goes with it which is as useful as a chocolate fireguard. |
| 16:34.06 | RockSlice | Tuph: not sure what's causing your problem. is this the first time you've loaded AucAdv? |
| 16:34.26 | Tuph | today, yes |
| 16:34.30 | Tuph | i've had classic before |
| 16:35.00 | Darknez | Is the 5.2 preview available? I can't see any obvious download links. |
| 16:35.40 | SNiLD | Darknez: i had problems with chat frame but i'm using addon called "Chatter" that does many stuff to it and after updating that, those got resolved |
| 16:35.43 | Hirsute | Darknez: I don't think so. We're still working on 5.1 |
| 16:36.05 | SNiLD | the preview version button is there just to piss you off! ;) |
| 16:36.09 | Darknez | lol |
| 16:36.21 | Hirsute | Darknez: The chat frame borking isn't Auc related. For me it was mostly Ace2 addons that were borking my chatframe. |
| 16:36.23 | SNiLD | i spent whole last night pressing that button :S |
| 16:36.25 | Aesir | we like to think if "piss you off' as 'exciting new teaser' |
| 16:37.37 | Hirsute | As far as Stubby goes, it isn't causing the errors, it's just the one that gets vocal about them. |
| 16:37.49 | Darknez | I deleted everything (WTF, Interface, cache, logs, etc) and redownloaded fresh addons, most appear to be working ok so far.. apart from Stubby |
| 16:37.56 | Tuph | I gotta say, you guys have become like a foundation of WoW. I can't imagine selling or buying a single item without Auctioneer. |
| 16:38.03 | Darknez | Indeed |
| 16:38.13 | Darknez | 3 Cheers to the Auctioneers! |
| 16:38.51 | Hirsute | Darknez: Stubby is not misbehaving. It's catching errors caused by other addons and getting vocal about it. |
| 16:39.19 | Darknez | Hmm |
| 16:39.27 | Hirsute | Just deleting and reinstalling addons doesn't mean they are working correctly with the current patch. |
| 16:39.36 | Hirsute | Are you running *any* Ace2 addons? |
| 16:39.37 | XThief | can anyone explain me this:http://up.norganna.org/index.php/vY0PlpB/WoWScrnShot_101608_132809.jpg - Histogram says the mediam is 4g and Appraiser, puts the buyout at 19g |
| 16:39.43 | Darknez | true.. but they are all released within the patch 3 timeframe |
| 16:40.02 | Hirsute | I've got many addons released since the patch that are still buggy. |
| 16:40.03 | Darknez | yeah I'm running BEQL |
| 16:40.08 | RockSlice | Tuph: can you try this: /run AucAdvanced.Print(tostring(AucAdvanced.Modules.Stat.Simple.GetPrice(select(2, GetItemInfo(21877))))) |
| 16:40.08 | Hirsute | Turn it off. |
| 16:40.17 | Hirsute | It was one that was borking my chat |
| 16:40.28 | SNiLD | XThief: RockSlice probably can |
| 16:40.32 | Darknez | hmm |
| 16:40.36 | Darknez | i'll try, brb |
| 16:40.38 | SNiLD | XThief: my guess is that you use different pricing model in appraiser |
| 16:40.51 | RockSlice | XThief: the 4g is for the entire stack. Appraiser prices per item |
| 16:41.13 | RockSlice | so the peritem price from histogram (as shown in tooltip) is 20s |
| 16:41.22 | RockSlice | Undercut then drops that by 13% |
| 16:41.23 | Hirsute | Darknez: I literally had to disable ALL ace2 addons to get my chatframe workingagain. |
| 16:41.32 | Hirsute | s/workingagain/working again |
| 16:41.44 | Hirsute | Hrmmm. |
| 16:41.51 | Hirsute | s/inga/ing a/ |
| 16:41.54 | XThief | 4g/20=0,2 *112 =22,4g |
| 16:41.59 | Tuph | Rock, server is being reset. I'll run it as soon as it kicks back |
| 16:42.15 | ^nbot | Bug 03ADV-331 10Solo761: ScanFinish sound plays when talking to AH NPC for the first time in current session06* (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-331 10 |
| 16:42.48 | XThief | oh ok |
| 16:42.55 | XThief | i have price check ticked |
| 16:43.58 | Darknez | ok still same issues, I see Blizzard Combat Log mentioned by Stubby |
| 16:44.27 | SNiLD | using sct? ;) |
| 16:44.30 | Darknez | hmm lol I wish I knew which were ace |
| 16:44.30 | Darknez | yeah |
| 16:44.39 | Darknez | off with its head? |
| 16:44.50 | SNiLD | sct uses ace |
| 16:44.51 | Darknez | thats using ACE3 too |
| 16:45.06 | SNiLD | yeah the new is ace3 :S |
| 16:45.18 | viisual | I try hard to only download ace addons |
| 16:45.20 | Darknez | TradeJunkie |
| 16:45.28 | Darknez | RatingBuster |
| 16:45.35 | Darknez | Titan |
| 16:45.41 | Darknez | WIM |
| 16:45.48 | Darknez | damnit, most of mine are ace lol |
| 16:45.54 | viisual | Ace rulz |
| 16:46.00 | Darknez | not right now it doesn;t |
| 16:46.01 | Darknez | one at a time job by the look of it |
| 16:46.23 | Darknez | however if its combat log - scrolling combat text.... yes maybe wortha a check first |
| 16:46.23 | Hirsute | Mine too. I'm running with almost no addons because the release versions of Ace are broken. |
| 16:46.39 | Darknez | nasty |
| 16:46.40 | Darknez | lol |
| 16:46.43 | Hirsute | It's the base Ace libraries. Any ace addons that call the problematic library will break your chatlog. |
| 16:46.48 | Darknez | ya :( |
| 16:46.53 | Darknez | gonna check, one sec |
| 16:47.00 | *** join/#norganna chaosike (n=chaosike@141.150.237.156) |
| 16:47.08 | Hirsute | That's why I had to turn off almost all my addons. |
| 16:47.28 | ZorbaTHut | I managed to get almost all of mine working |
| 16:47.32 | ZorbaTHut | there's only one I have that's still broken |
| 16:47.33 | chaosike | can anyone tell me how to get rid of my "money type not set" error? |
| 16:47.33 | viisual | Really? Most of mine all work, except autobar. |
| 16:47.39 | viisual | I jsut wowmatrix.com update it all |
| 16:47.56 | Hirsute | ~stab wowmatrix |
| 16:47.57 | purl | ACTION runs at wowmatrix with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 16:48.14 | Kandoko | ZorbaTHut: Still cathing up on backlogs, btmscan is not phased out quite yet :P and don't worry, SearchUI is capable of doing exactly what btmscan does. Search live AH and pop up a buy/bid window. That has just not been implemented yet. It will be user choosable to have results go to the popup (stopping the scan) or going to results window for later viewing. |
| 16:48.42 | RockSlice | Tuph: have you tried that command yet? |
| 16:48.44 | Darknez | ok not just SCT then |
| 16:49.09 | Tuph | not yet Rock. the server is down and im unable to connect |
| 16:49.15 | Darknez | is WoWMatrix the cause of heavy bandwidth on certain sites then? |
| 16:49.26 | chaosike | every time i try to auction an item i get the "money type not found" error and the only option is to hit ok |
| 16:49.39 | Hirsute | chaosike: We're not sure about that error yet. |
| 16:49.43 | Darknez | I must admit I've been using it too because it just covers everything |
| 16:49.55 | Darknez | especially since the other mod managers disappeared |
| 16:49.58 | RockSlice | Darknez: quite likely |
| 16:50.04 | chaosike | hirsute: so should i not use it until a fix has been made? |
| 16:50.12 | RockSlice | but not entirely |
| 16:50.15 | ZorbaTHut | kandoko, ah, good :) |
| 16:50.25 | ZorbaTHut | I hope that gets implemented before btmscan goes away :P |
| 16:50.30 | RockSlice | it could just be the millions of WoW users all logging in at once |
| 16:50.33 | Hirsute | Darknez: WoWMatrix is one of the large problems, they also don't respect Addon Author's wishes regarding whether or not to list their addons, and behaves poorly. WoWMatrix is not well liked among a lot of addon devs. |
| 16:50.44 | Hirsute | chaosike: Is it preventing you from posting auctions? |
| 16:50.53 | Darknez | :( know of any alternatives |
| 16:51.08 | chaosike | Hirsute: yes it is |
| 16:51.37 | Aesir | Which item, Chaosike? |
| 16:51.45 | Hirsute | chaosike: I'd try with only Auc addons enabled and see if it goes away. I don't *think* that's an Auc eror. |
| 16:51.51 | Hirsute | s/eror/error/ |
| 16:52.01 | SNiLD | well i have been pondering between WUU, JWU, WowMatrix and Curse Client :/ |
| 16:52.10 | RockSlice | Darknez: http://forums.wowace.com/forumdisplay.php?f=55 has good threads about the major ones |
| 16:52.32 | chaosike | Hirsute: ok ill try that |
| 16:52.52 | chaosike | Aesir: any auction i try to post |
| 16:54.31 | Aesir | Chaosike: Alright. Wanted to know if it was just specific items. There is a blizz issue with some items. |
| 16:55.23 | chaosike | thanks everyone...take care |
| 16:55.48 | norgs | Tuph: re: the play/pause/stop |
| 16:56.31 | norgs | the reason is that classic couldn't handle you walking to the mailbox in the middle of a scan |
| 16:58.22 | norgs | i did originally have only one button there, but people asked to be able to "pause" their scan so they could do a search in the middle of the scan |
| 16:59.00 | norgs | ie, scanning, and then want to search the AH for something, press pause, do the search, press play again |
| 17:01.39 | Tuph | Rock, still here. Blizzard refuses to fix their servers, hehe |
| 17:01.55 | norgs | mind you, this was back in the day when scans regularly took 30 minutes or longer |
| 17:02.36 | SNiLD | even at the time of btmscanner i liked the ability to pause |
| 17:02.45 | SNiLD | i could go on and do some enchanting and go back to scanning |
| 17:02.54 | SNiLD | but i never used the pause button for it |
| 17:03.04 | SNiLD | i just left the ah as it works automatically, which is great ;) |
| 17:03.07 | Tuph | i see your point norgs. but play/pause/stop isnt very intuitive for "scan, pause scan, stop scan" perhaps a Scan button, which becomes "Pause" once scan is pressed |
| 17:03.39 | Hirsute | Fair enough, it was pretty intuitive for me... *shrug* |
| 17:04.12 | norgs | i think people coming from classic are just used to the big red scan button at the bottom |
| 17:04.19 | norgs | it's not there, they get scared |
| 17:04.26 | SNiLD | yep |
| 17:04.37 | Tuph | exactly |
| 17:04.41 | norgs | "Auctioneer's not working!!!" kinda scared |
| 17:04.42 | Tuph | i hit under a blanket |
| 17:04.46 | Tuph | hid* |
| 17:04.52 | norgs | :) |
| 17:05.00 | SNiLD | but when you see it, you'll shit bricks! |
| 17:05.10 | Hirsute | If only they had started using Advanced when we told them too. |
| 17:05.25 | Tuph | but i mean, a scan/pause button (with text) would solve all problems. a stop button isn't totally needed |
| 17:05.34 | cut | is the old style Post Auction screen coming back from auctioneer advanced? i installed the newest version and it's not there anymore. is it an error on my end? |
| 17:05.35 | Darknez | hmm think I've moved all ACE addons out... same issue :| |
| 17:05.54 | Darknez | try others now :P |
| 17:06.04 | Hirsute | Darknez: Okay, try with just Auc-related addons enabled, then start adding other ones one at a time. |
| 17:06.29 | norgs | cut: we are working on a simpler "classic"-like post interface at the moment (at the requests of our users) |
| 17:06.38 | RockSlice | cut: yes. we'll most likely be adding one (but you'll have to wait until patchday confusion has passed) |
| 17:06.51 | Hirsute | Check any that directly affect the chatframe first. |
| 17:07.07 | norgs | for the moment, the appraiser frame is the only way to do automated posting |
| 17:07.33 | cut | ok thanks. i read the part about the simpler screen on the site. i dont know why people think the old style is so complicated |
| 17:07.39 | cut | heh |
| 17:07.53 | Hirsute | People don't think the old style is complicated, we just don't think it's as good. |
| 17:07.59 | cut | ohhh i see |
| 17:08.14 | cut | the appraiser part on the old style post screen is awesome |
| 17:08.21 | Darknez | Works with just Auctioneer... of course it's written properly ;) |
| 17:08.33 | Hirsute | Appraiser is far more powerful and efficient for most us. |
| 17:08.42 | norgs | cut: wait... what? |
| 17:08.45 | Darknez | so.. one or more out of 70 addons could be causing it |
| 17:08.46 | Hirsute | The old Post Auctions screen was very disappointing for me. |
| 17:08.51 | norgs | scratches his head |
| 17:09.05 | Darknez | i'll try half and see if it occurs and whittle it down that way. |
| 17:09.10 | Hirsute | norgs: I think he didn't mean appraiser, but the old post auctions tab. |
| 17:09.19 | norgs | ahh |
| 17:09.22 | cut | when you dropped the item in to the Post Auction screen, and it automatically set a good price, or it undercut it by XX% |
| 17:09.22 | Hirsute | Darknez: That'll speed things up for you, I should have recommended that first. |
| 17:09.51 | Hirsute | It will do that on Appraiser, too, cut. |
| 17:10.05 | cut | ahh sweet |
| 17:10.17 | Darknez | A-H work fine.. next batch |
| 17:10.46 | cut | thanks for the info guys. your addon kicks butt :) |
| 17:11.03 | Darknez | aha.... ok Metamap or Modmap is causing the issue |
| 17:11.07 | Tuph | the old style post screen was amazing. the AH doesn't follow supply/demand logic all the time. So a lot of the functionality of the supposedly superior apraiser screen is lost. Its like a professional poker player palying against newbs. He is far better, but might lose because the newbs will check with a 2-7 offsuit |
| 17:11.37 | Hirsute | Tuph: Appraiser is still far better, at least for me, and for most of our users who give it time. |
| 17:12.15 | Tuph | Perhaps, but why fix what isn't broken? |
| 17:12.20 | SNiLD | Tuph: nothing wrong checking with 2-7, no money spent there... ;) |
| 17:12.42 | Tuph | SNiLD, glad you're a great addon designer, and not a poker player :) |
| 17:12.44 | Hirsute | Tuph: Because for a lot of us, it *was* broken. I found it clunky, difficult to use, and slow. |
| 17:13.02 | SNiLD | Tuph: i'm not addon designer, i'm user ;) |
| 17:13.04 | norgs | Tuph: it's not a case of fixing, more a case of having to go in and replicated the functionality |
| 17:14.01 | Darknez | ok well.. after that, Metamap was causing the problem... what thats got to do with chatframe and combat logs I have no idea |
| 17:14.10 | Darknez | but I like my small map :( |
| 17:14.14 | Tuph | Im going to give the apraiser a shot (since i dont have an option) and get back to this IRC for feedback but til then, just waiting for blizzard to bring up the damn servers |
| 17:14.17 | Hirsute | Darknez: Metamap, I believe, uses Ace libraries. |
| 17:14.43 | Hirsute | Darknez: I've tried Cartographer 3 in the mean-time. I'm having to relearn, but it's kind of slick. |
| 17:14.48 | SNiLD | i don't even remember what the old posting frame provided |
| 17:15.32 | SNiLD | heh yeah having maps work like googlemaps was good IDEA... but it's not quite working well yet ;) |
| 17:15.54 | Darknez | Used to use Yatlas for a while |
| 17:16.35 | SNiLD | hm does gatherer integrate to any of the map addons these days? :o |
| 17:16.52 | *** join/#norganna gnosi (n=gnosi@81.193.130.202) |
| 17:16.53 | Darknez | ok.. Cartographer it is then it seems |
| 17:17.00 | Darknez | OptionalDeps: Gatherer (for Metamap) |
| 17:17.03 | gnosi | I there everyone |
| 17:17.10 | Darknez | although it don't work for me |
| 17:17.12 | Hirsute | Hi gnosi |
| 17:17.48 | gnosi | each time a load stubby, it gives me a error and i cant ready or seen anything in chat channel |
| 17:18.07 | SNiLD | :S |
| 17:18.25 | Aesir | That's so awesome. |
| 17:18.30 | gnosi | does anyone has a clue for this error |
| 17:18.34 | Hirsute | gnosi: It isn't stubby, it's one of your other addons. Usually Ace addons or Metamap |
| 17:18.37 | *** join/#norganna shando (n=shando@chello080109207185.1.graz.surfer.at) |
| 17:18.40 | shando | hi |
| 17:18.46 | Hirsute | Stubby just caught the error and whined about it. |
| 17:18.51 | SNiLD | shando: let me guess, stubby causing you trouble? ;D |
| 17:18.57 | shando | :P |
| 17:19.01 | shando | not exactly stubby |
| 17:19.09 | shando | but i'm having problems scanning the AH |
| 17:19.14 | gnosi | metamap, could be, but i dont use ace |
| 17:19.26 | Hirsute | If you're using Metamap, it is metamap |
| 17:19.29 | shando | thing is, auctioneer is scanning extremely slowly.... |
| 17:19.32 | SNiLD | shando: what kinds of problems? |
| 17:19.47 | Darknez | try turning off Metamap lol |
| 17:19.51 | Hirsute | shando: Probably the server's fault. They've been shaky and had nasty response times since the patch. |
| 17:19.57 | gnosi | thanks, for th help, im foing to test it now |
| 17:20.04 | shando | it sais "1.24 auctions per second" |
| 17:20.06 | Darknez | I've spent the last 30 minutes testing each of my addons |
| 17:20.07 | shando | ok i see |
| 17:20.26 | Darknez | is Atlas or Atlasloot working before I try it ^.^ |
| 17:20.41 | Tuph | it is |
| 17:20.44 | Hirsute | Darknez: No idea, I don't use either of those. |
| 17:20.45 | Darknez | thank god. |
| 17:21.16 | Tuph | still upset that SCT and SCT-Dmg are no longer being updated |
| 17:22.00 | SNiLD | no longer? |
| 17:22.04 | SNiLD | how come :/ |
| 17:22.10 | Darknez | I have version 6.2 for interface 30000 of SCT running? |
| 17:22.19 | Darknez | using ACE3 |
| 17:22.28 | Tuph | i dont know. no updates for months now. at least not on curse.com |
| 17:22.37 | Tuph | i had to go to the default blizzard ones |
| 17:22.45 | Darknez | I can zip up and send u mine? |
| 17:22.48 | Darknez | u on MSN |
| 17:23.02 | Tuph | where did you get yours? |
| 17:23.12 | *** join/#norganna plavonica (n=plavonic@pool-71-112-49-165.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 17:23.14 | Darknez | I'm worried I'll get lynched if I say WoWMatrix ^.^ |
| 17:23.33 | SNiLD | well there has been updates in the files.wowace.com |
| 17:23.37 | Darknez | It's a bit like supporting Fur trade. |
| 17:23.38 | Hirsute | No, I'll just have purl stab wowmatrix again. It helps relieve frustration. |
| 17:23.42 | Hirsute | Actually |
| 17:23.45 | Darknez | lol |
| 17:23.52 | Hirsute | ~lart wowmatrix |
| 17:23.52 | purl | does a little 'dpkg -P wowmatrix' action |
| 17:24.05 | Darknez | sounds a bit too linuxy for me |
| 17:24.40 | gnosi | ok, now its working |
| 17:25.02 | Darknez | after metamap bit the bullet? |
| 17:25.05 | Tuph | ooh, found it. tho i probably somehow deleted all my settings. hope not |
| 17:25.10 | Darknez | hehe |
| 17:25.24 | Hirsute | Yeah, metamap is not a nice boy right now. |
| 17:25.30 | Darknez | I'm gonna try Cartographer3 instead of metamap for now |
| 17:25.33 | gnosi | SO if you using Auctioneer, you cant use Ace and Metamap, but you can use it with metamap |
| 17:25.47 | Darknez | I dunno, all my other ace based addons are working |
| 17:25.48 | gnosi | ace sucks |
| 17:25.48 | Aesir | curse.com, for fun and enjoyment, has "ScrollingCombatText" and 'sct' available. The lowercase 'sct' one is current. |
| 17:25.57 | gnosi | thanks for your help |
| 17:25.59 | Darknez | it's particular "versions" of the various ACE libraries... |
| 17:26.20 | Darknez | don't blame ACE, it could be the version that was included and they've fixed it in a newer release that the developer hasn't put in? |
| 17:26.38 | Darknez | or metamap has stopped being developed and this 3.0 version I have is just a hacked around 2.4.3 version |
| 17:26.47 | Hirsute | gnosi: No, Auc has no part in the Ace/Metamap errors. |
| 17:26.59 | Hirsute | They will break your chat with or without Auc |
| 17:27.09 | Darknez | indeed |
| 17:27.09 | plavonica | i think im just being dumb but how do i get the vender prices to show in the tooltips for auctioneer 5.1? |
| 17:27.26 | Hirsute | It looks like it might be mostly Metamap, though I'm consistenly having problems with Ace2 addons. |
| 17:27.43 | Hirsute | plavonica: Make sure informant is set to show it. If it's for a new item, though, we won't have data for it yet. |
| 17:28.03 | Hirsute | Informant config can be accessed via the EnhTT/Informant button on the slidebar. |
| 17:28.20 | *** join/#norganna Rok (n=Rok@24-176-45-154.dhcp.klmz.mi.charter.com) |
| 17:28.27 | plavonica | awesome |
| 17:28.35 | Darknez | Ah makes a change to find a useful IRC channel again... been a long time since I wandered these chat channels |
| 17:28.44 | Darknez | Makes me want to install a client again :P |
| 17:28.44 | shando | it's so disgusting that every patch crashes all your addons -.- |
| 17:28.54 | gnosi | I know that, im just saying that Auctioneer works with Metamap , but with ace just corrupts the chat lines |
| 17:29.04 | Darknez | well it's a major patch... not just 2.4.2 to 2.4.3 where (most) things worked |
| 17:29.11 | Rok | I have used auctioneer for a couple months now so I am kinda new....onto my question |
| 17:29.30 | Darknez | Shoot |
| 17:29.54 | Rok | I just patched auctioneer and I was wondering how do I set it to auto list prices in the auction hall like it did before |
| 17:30.22 | Hirsute | gnosi: Without ace, metamap should be borking chat, too. |
| 17:30.28 | Hirsute | Rok: Use the appraiser tab. |
| 17:30.42 | Hirsute | You'll need to scan a bit before you get an reasonable prices, though. |
| 17:30.57 | Rok | I put a item in the box but it doesn't auto list price and buy out anymore |
| 17:30.57 | Darknez | Wow I see what you mean about Cartographer.. smooth zooming FTW |
| 17:31.11 | viisual | Cartographer3 ? |
| 17:31.17 | gnosi | it doesnt |
| 17:31.26 | Darknez | Metamap appears independant of ACE |
| 17:31.35 | Darknez | can you still see Guildchat with Metamap running? |
| 17:31.36 | Rok | not sure if it was an option I might have to tweak |
| 17:31.43 | Hirsute | gnosi: Interesting. |
| 17:31.43 | Darknez | yeah Cart3 |
| 17:31.51 | Darknez | thats now replaced metamap lol |
| 17:31.59 | viisual | My cart3 has been busted since 3.0.2 /cria |
| 17:32.09 | Darknez | I like the zoom in from the world to your location |
| 17:32.10 | Darknez | aww :( |
| 17:32.12 | Hirsute | Rok: Nope, you just need to use the Appraiser tab, that's the only one we work with for posting auctions. |
| 17:32.24 | Darknez | I have Cartographer 3.0 v0.10 |
| 17:32.30 | Hirsute | viisual: When was the last time you updated? I pulled a version off curse yesterday, and it mostly works. |
| 17:32.34 | gnosi | ok, whats the name of the addon that gives me all information about the value of an item, like median price, bo price and everything? |
| 17:32.42 | Hirsute | Informant? |
| 17:32.51 | Rok | kk thanks |
| 17:32.54 | *** part/#norganna Rok (n=Rok@24-176-45-154.dhcp.klmz.mi.charter.com) |
| 17:32.57 | viisual | I think I will be re-updating some broken addons when I get home today (Cart3, AutoBar) |
| 17:32.58 | Darknez | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:33.08 | Hirsute | AutoBar is still quite broken for me. |
| 17:33.09 | Darknez | oh yes I forgot Autobar.. thanks :P |
| 17:33.10 | gnosi | thanks |
| 17:33.12 | Darknez | darn |
| 17:33.20 | viisual | Whats a good bag addon these days |
| 17:33.23 | viisual | OneBag broke |
| 17:33.26 | Hirsute | Largely due to its reliance on a broken Ace2 |
| 17:33.26 | SNiLD | gnosi: different models give different pricing statistics |
| 17:34.51 | Darknez | Baggins appears to be some Bag mod, not used it tho |
| 17:35.01 | Darknez | Bagnon is another |
| 17:35.10 | SNiLD | i didn't like baggins |
| 17:36.28 | SNiLD | it doesn't actually affect your bags |
| 17:36.28 | SNiLD | it offers you a second view over your bags |
| 17:36.28 | Darknez | ah |
| 17:36.29 | Darknez | I never liked only having one bag - I prefered the standard split |
| 17:36.29 | SNiLD | then baggins might be your thing |
| 17:36.29 | SNiLD | it sorts the items into categories |
| 17:36.29 | SNiLD | automagically ;) |
| 17:36.32 | Darknez | hehe... thats one of the things I don't mind doing, sorting my bags :P |
| 17:36.33 | Darknez | manually |
| 17:36.34 | Darknez | Autobar r605-beta? Ill try that |
| 17:36.46 | viisual | let me know |
| 17:36.49 | Darknez | will do |
| 17:36.51 | viisual | If it shows your ponies. |
| 17:36.54 | SNiLD | pfft manual work... don't remember doing that in ages ;) |
| 17:36.55 | viisual | Cause mounts are different nows. |
| 17:37.03 | Aesir | bag mods - I'm liking the potential of "Luggage". I'm still learning how to set it up and to trust it with inventory though. |
| 17:37.18 | SNiLD | :S |
| 17:37.28 | SNiLD | you have a bag but you can't trust to put your items into the bag? ;) |
| 17:37.46 | Hirsute | Yeah, Darknez, let me know if that Autobar works for you. |
| 17:37.54 | Aesir | It's my first bag mod. Cut me some slack :p |
| 17:38.16 | ^nbot | Bug 03ASKP-23 10Hirsute: /auc askprice send no longer seems to work.06* (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASKP-23 10 |
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| 17:42.10 | Darknez | Well autobar runs fine, no errors... I only see my druid forms under mounts however, and I can't figure out how you use the Drop option to add you're own "spells" to it |
| 17:42.32 | Hirsute | Darknez: Good to know. |
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| 17:46.40 | Darknez | Right.. I'm off for now ;) cya later |
| 17:50.31 | Moohaha | So I'm reading this forum post. Is there some kind of bug with getting the enchantrix tooltip to show up? I can get the disenchant value to show, but not what the item will disenchant into? |
| 17:50.48 | sett_ | prat addon working for anyone? |
| 17:51.57 | Hirsute | Prat3.0 is working for me. |
| 17:55.39 | Nechckn_AFK | Moohaha you need to disable the terse option in the settings |
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| 17:58.26 | sensenmann | is anyone else having trouble getting auctioneer to work? |
| 17:59.15 | Hirsute | Not I. What problems are you having sensenmann? |
| 18:00.22 | sensenmann | It is saying auctioneer is not working, it simply won't load / work. |
| 18:00.56 | Hirsute | sensenmann: Auctioneer Classic or Advanced? |
| 18:01.28 | sensenmann | ummm, i use suite, so i'm not sure which |
| 18:01.35 | Hirsute | When did you download it? |
| 18:02.04 | sensenmann | i just downloaded it 5 mins ago to check again |
| 18:02.13 | Moohaha | ah, ty |
| 18:02.32 | Hirsute | sensenmann: Okay. Where is it telling you it isn't working? |
| 18:02.39 | Hirsute | And what exactly does it say? |
| 18:03.17 | sensenmann | it's saying auc scan data is missing a dependancy, yet i see the dependancy, and its working and loaded |
| 18:03.54 | Nechckn | Blizz changed the Load on Demand addon color to red |
| 18:04.07 | Nechckn | for some unholy, weird reason |
| 18:04.11 | sensenmann | ahh, that could be it, sec |
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| 18:04.25 | Nechckn | The only time there is an issue is if there is a note after the AddOn name |
| 18:04.28 | Hirsute | Does it actually *say* a dependency is missing, or is it just red? |
| 18:04.35 | sensenmann | its just red |
| 18:04.45 | Hirsute | Okay, then it's loading fine |
| 18:04.46 | Aesir | Your work here is done. :) |
| 18:04.54 | sensenmann | but then, why do i not have the auction page |
| 18:05.00 | sensenmann | all i have is the base blizz tab |
| 18:05.14 | sensenmann | not the nice tab where i can chose how many stacks and what size to use |
| 18:05.24 | Nechckn | Use the Appraiser tab |
| 18:05.31 | Moohaha | well, back to work for me. thanks for the help :) |
| 18:06.13 | sensenmann | alright, so that old tab is no more? or that a diff version of the mod? |
| 18:06.22 | ZealotOnAStick | I miss Bottomscanner. |
| 18:06.47 | Nechckn | ZealotOnAStick it's just not part of the suite it's still available if you really want it |
| 18:06.53 | Nechckn | right on the download page |
| 18:06.58 | ZealotOnAStick | Is there any way to get the live search thing to give me the nice, simple "Hey, here's this thing, you want to buy it?" popups like Bottomscan did? |
| 18:07.11 | ZealotOnAStick | Oh. I shall snag that then. |
| 18:08.12 | sensenmann | so is there no way to get that old tab back? I like its UI better than appraiser |
| 18:08.35 | ZealotOnAStick | oh, and reading the news at the front of the site . . . |
| 18:08.46 | ZealotOnAStick | I personally think Appraiser is way better than the old one. |
| 18:08.50 | Hirsute | sensenmann: No, there isn't. Click the "simple" button for now and it will be closer to what you're used to, but if you read the news post on the site you'll see were working on something. |
| 18:08.53 | ZealotOnAStick | But then I've not been using Classic for ages. |
| 18:09.02 | Hirsute | ZealotOnAStick: almost everyon who gives it a chance ends up agreeing with you. |
| 18:09.10 | sensenmann | ahh ok i see now, my bad |
| 18:09.43 | ZealotOnAStick | Nechckn: Is there a way with SearchUI to get it to give me the BottomScanner style pop-up dialogs? |
| 18:09.48 | Aesir | Zealot, I think the SearchUI list represents the list of things that say, "Hey, there's this thing..." . |
| 18:10.11 | Hirsute | ZealotOnAStick: No popus right now. I think there's a plan to bring them back as an option. |
| 18:10.27 | ZealotOnAStick | yeah, but I liked the simplistic-decision method of interacting, rather than having to hunt through a list. |
| 18:10.43 | Nechckn | =) |
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| 18:10.48 | Hirsute | Like I said, I believe there's a plan to bring it back. |
| 18:10.49 | ZealotOnAStick | and it's sort of hard to mis-click on a row and buy the wrong thing when there's a popup with only that thing there. |
| 18:10.54 | Aesir | It was sort of a commanding interface. *BONG* Here's this thing you want to buy! |
| 18:11.09 | ZealotOnAStick | Except for the BONG (I killed the sound stuff quick) yes. |
| 18:11.09 | Nechckn | It's funny because all we ever heard before is that people wanted a list of items |
| 18:11.45 | SNiLD | i didn't like the popup because 90% of the time i pressed "no" on the popup |
| 18:11.58 | SNiLD | it used to take me 30 min to "scan" the ah |
| 18:12.02 | Aesir | I'm ok with the list. the bong*popup sometimes became stressful in a NYSE/FTSE trader kind of way |
| 18:12.03 | Nechckn | ZealotOnAStick the "smart purchase" button works on the item that is highlighted, bidding or buying |
| 18:12.04 | SNiLD | now i do it in 10 min |
| 18:12.28 | Nechckn | So, click the top row, then you can hit the buttons, just like the old pop up thingy |
| 18:12.42 | SNiLD | yeah that feature automatically selecting the next row after bid/buyout would rock though ;) |
| 18:12.53 | ZealotOnAStick | I can see people wanting a list interface. |
| 18:13.04 | ZealotOnAStick | For certain things, it's nice and useful. |
| 18:13.28 | Nechckn | ZealotOnAStick seriously, that was the most requested thing for BTMS |
| 18:14.04 | Nechckn | the other thing was that folks didn't want to have to customize the Evaluators for BTM, then go and add the same thing for the "Search" window |
| 18:14.19 | Nechckn | Hence... combining both into one magical instrument =) |
| 18:14.29 | ZealotOnAStick | If anything else, I'm installing Bottomscanner again so I can replicate my evalutor settings. |
| 18:14.44 | ZealotOnAStick | I was going through searchui and going "crap, how did I have things set?" |
| 18:15.14 | Nechckn | Yeah... that's one thing that would have been nice, but the conversion was really mucky... so it's manual |
| 18:15.39 | sensenmann | well i'm off, thank you very much for the help |
| 18:18.58 | SNiLD | sneaky |
| 18:19.34 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: 03Norganna * r3620 10Auc-Util-SearchUI/SearchMain.lua: |
| 18:19.34 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: ASER-115: Added between-session restoration of settings. |
| 18:19.34 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: ASER-116: Added callback functions to searchUI modules. Simply define lib.Processor(msg, ...) in your module to receive feedback. |
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| 18:34.30 | priit | good evening. I ran into a problem with appraiser. I was setting up an auction and for 40 tin ore, entered the values for per item, and then the appraised created auctions for stacks with one item value? |
| 18:34.51 | priit | had to fast cancel auctions, but why it did that? |
| 18:36.18 | SNiLD | ... damn the plan to take over the auction house has been revealed ;P |
| 18:37.44 | SNiLD | priit: it shouldn't do that, what version are you using? |
| 18:37.50 | Nechckn | What stack size did you have set? |
| 18:38.39 | Nechckn | set two stacks of 20 or "Full" would work if you have 40 in your bag |
| 18:39.30 | ^nbot | Improvement 03ASER-118 10osoviejo: Automatically translate 5.0 SV format to new SV format06* (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-118 10 |
| 18:40.25 | Nechckn | so if you had it set to 25s per bar, then you would see two stacks for 5g per stack- and that would be reported in the right window |
| 18:41.41 | Nechckn | Better to see what is going on- change the settings to 1 stack of 20 - then read that right window - that should lay out all of the math for you |
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| 18:45.56 | priit | used full and had 2 stacks in inventory |
| 18:46.39 | SNiLD | but was your stack size 20? |
| 18:46.52 | priit | and using the newest version from your homepage... and yes stack size was 20 |
| 18:47.09 | priit | now it worked fine with 5 aquamaries and 20 stacksize... |
| 18:47.21 | priit | it made the auction price 5* the price I inserted |
| 18:47.30 | priit | but this time I changed the "Full" to "All" |
| 18:49.57 | priit | newest for this matter was .3613 |
| 18:57.00 | Nechckn | sorry, it should be All if you want it to post every item With that set, you are telling it to post every item of that type, in the biggest stack size possible |
| 18:58.05 | priit | anyway right now with "all" mode I wasnt able to sell any "tin ore" at all... it keps telling me some error about buy price not being right |
| 18:58.11 | Nechckn | If you look in the Appraiser section under Utilities in the Auctioneer options, there are descriptions of the Full and All settings |
| 18:58.23 | priit | although I put bid price 14s and buyout price 15s |
| 18:58.25 | Nechckn | Ok... what does the error say? |
| 18:59.03 | Nechckn | less than vendor or that your buyout needs to be more than the bid? |
| 18:59.44 | SNiLD | shouldn't say either as 1 tin ore does not vendor for 14s ;p |
| 18:59.54 | priit | Skipping [Tin Ore]: invalid buyout value |
| 19:00.47 | SNiLD | did you have just numbers in the buyout value and are you sure you had the values in the silver box and not the copper box? ;P |
| 19:01.02 | priit | yes I am pretty sure |
| 19:01.33 | SNiLD | can you take a screenshot? ;p |
| 19:01.58 | priit | sorry not anymore... sold the tin ores using the normal auction creatiion :( |
| 19:02.11 | SNiLD | hokay |
| 19:02.18 | priit | but when it happens again I will |
| 19:02.24 | SNiLD | sure |
| 19:04.15 | ^nbot | Bug 03SBAR-7 10Sonicandtails: Does not stay hidden after restart.06 (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/SBAR-7 10brykrys: This could be related to whatever ... |
| 19:11.14 | ^nbot | Task 03ADV-325 10Nechckn: Modify build script to include ability to post and include 2 statistics from which to compute "Market"06 (04Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-325 10Nechckn: Completed prior to the release of 3.x . Included histogra... |
| 19:11.28 | sett_ | anyone can recommend any good hud addon? |
| 19:11.56 | Nechckn | "good" and "hud addon" don't necessarily go togther.... |
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| 19:12.18 | Nechckn | j/k I don't know of any specific ones that are updated for 3.x... anyone else? |
| 19:12.30 | thunder | hello everybody |
| 19:12.46 | sett_ | never used any and there are so many |
| 19:13.56 | Nechckn | Hello, thunder what's up |
| 19:14.19 | thunder | I'm sorry, my english is not so good - i've read the faq's, but i don't understand, what i have to do. before patch 3.0.2 i use auctioneer classic, with the new patch now the new version. now i don't see any auction prices in the tooltips |
| 19:14.49 | thunder | in classic version before the tooltips working (on 2.4.3) |
| 19:14.59 | Kandoko | SNiLD: Baggins is very very customizable. But yeah the default new install sucks |
| 19:15.31 | thunder | i take a look on the configuration - but i don't know, what i have to activate, that i can see the auction-prices for a item in tool-tip |
| 19:15.37 | Kandoko | I like having it set up in a "onebag" veiw with my custom categories and sorts |
| 19:15.48 | thunder | i have scanned the ah |
| 19:15.54 | thunder | can you help me? |
| 19:16.47 | SNiLD | Kandoko: yeah i tried that but didn't like it at all :P |
| 19:17.00 | SNiLD | Kandoko: i just found myself closing the bag windows always instead of using them ;) |
| 19:17.23 | Nechckn | thunder ok if you were only using Classic, then you will need to scan to make new statistics |
| 19:17.32 | SNiLD | thunder: there are several auction pricing information available |
| 19:17.50 | Nechckn | thunder use the stop, play, and pause button in the upper left of the "Browse" window to scan |
| 19:18.11 | Nechckn | then go into your options by clicking the "Configure" button at the top of the Appraiser or Browse Frame |
| 19:18.18 | thunder | yes, i do this scan |
| 19:18.18 | Nechckn | look for the statistics |
| 19:18.36 | Nechckn | then activate whichever one(s) you would like to see in the tooltip |
| 19:18.52 | Nechckn | It will take a while to build up your data again |
| 19:18.58 | Nechckn | but not too long |
| 19:19.31 | thunder | ok, give me a second |
| 19:19.48 | Nechckn | By the way- your English is better than most native speakers we have come through here. |
| 19:19.55 | Nechckn | okey dokey |
| 19:20.15 | thunder | oh, thank you :-) |
| 19:20.34 | thunder | i have do this scan and now i'm in the "configure" window |
| 19:20.49 | thunder | you mean the "Stat Modules"? |
| 19:20.53 | Nechckn | Yes |
| 19:21.21 | thunder | but, what for statistics i have to activate, that i have the same output like auctioneer classic? you know, what i mean? |
| 19:22.00 | Nechckn | Well, with the new suite there is a single line active the "Appraiser" price |
| 19:22.33 | Nechckn | that will give a single, Market based statistic that is usually the same as what Classic would have provided. |
| 19:22.47 | Nechckn | As for more to consider- maybe under "Simple" |
| 19:23.04 | Nechckn | activate the overall "Average" |
| 19:24.01 | Kandoko | SNiLD: Well the biggest benefit to me was the btm and searchUI reason categories. So stuff I buy for DE is in one Stuff for resale in another, Vendor yet anoter :) |
| 19:24.01 | Nechckn | there are 3 day, 7 day, 14 day and then an overall Average available |
| 19:24.35 | SNiLD | Kandoko: yes that's true, but i never got that far ;) |
| 19:24.47 | SNiLD | Kandoko: as i started to ignore/close the window instantly ;) |
| 19:25.10 | Nechckn | thunder it has been a while since I actively used Classic - but that "average" along with the "Appraiser" stat that will show already should get you some reliable numbers in the tooltip |
| 19:25.11 | Kandoko | Yeah took me weeks to break the bag habit and actually use it :P |
| 19:25.38 | Nechckn | thunder do note that for posting, you now use the "Appraiser" frame and not the default "post" frame |
| 19:26.14 | ^nbot | Bug 03BCNT-208 10kandoko: update version # on new toon creation for 3.0 expansion to keep 3.0 DB update from running twice.06 (04In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-208 10 |
| 19:26.17 | thunder | i see, its shown with the name "Simple Prices" in tooltip? |
| 19:26.26 | Nechckn | thunder all you need to do is select the item from the list on the left, set the price in the upper center, and all of the math is displayed in the right column... then click "Post" |
| 19:27.03 | Nechckn | thunder Yes, it will say Simple, then a small indent with the name like 3day or 7day, followed by the amount |
| 19:27.23 | thunder | ah, now i understand :-) |
| 19:27.47 | Nechckn | Like this http://wiki.norganna.org/AucAdvanced/Tooltip |
| 19:28.22 | Nechckn | The Name tells you which statistic, then each value is reported below the name |
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| 19:28.49 | thunder | my wife tells me, that auctioneer is always scanning the AH in background - is that correct? |
| 19:29.07 | Nechckn | When you are searching the AH, yes |
| 19:30.07 | Nechckn | You can also start a new search using those small buttons at the top of the Browse frame to get a complete "snapshot" or picture of the AH data |
| 19:30.09 | Tullethre | I downloaded the 10/15 release vesion of Auctioneer classic suite and my enhanced tooltips are not working. |
| 19:30.13 | ^nbot | Bug 03BCNT-208 10kandoko: update version # on new toon creation for 3.0 expansion to keep 3.0 DB update from running twice.06 (04Resolved/Duplicate) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-208 10kandoko: No longer needed, the DB has a check in place already. |
| 19:30.27 | Nechckn | We recommend you do that about once per day for a few days to obtain good statistical data |
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| 19:31.02 | Nechckn | Tullethre did you download from http://AuctioneerAddOn.Com/dl ? |
| 19:31.02 | thunder | you are the best - now i understand it :-) my problem is the english language to understand the settings ;-) |
| 19:31.10 | Tullethre | yes |
| 19:31.13 | ^nbot | Improvement 03BCNT-84 10testleK: Improvement to the item autoload in beancounter tab feature for BTM pops06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-84 10kandoko: This can also be optionally added to SearchUI. |
| 19:31.15 | Nechckn | thunder yes, the settings can be confusing |
| 19:31.48 | Nechckn | Tullethre and did you follow the directions, like those on http://Wiki.norganna.org/Installing ? |
| 19:31.50 | thunder | i read, the working on the localizations are going on? i'm very happy, when auctioneer is in german soon :-) |
| 19:31.57 | Nechckn | as far as removing all of your old files, etc |
| 19:32.11 | Nechckn | thunder yes! for version 5.2 we hope to have it fully localized |
| 19:32.45 | Nechckn | thunder please watch the main page, http://AuctioneerAddOn.com We will post a note when we are ready- we will need some help with the translations |
| 19:32.56 | Tullethre | Yes I am a very experienced addons installer and I, also checked the addons list to assure that the tooltips addon was enabled |
| 19:33.30 | Nechckn | thunder it's pretty simple - we have a web interface where we give a term in English and then you simply enter the name or phrase in the target language |
| 19:33.32 | thunder | thats very great :-) on this place: very, very good work - auctioneer is a very big addon with big complexity |
| 19:33.53 | Nechckn | thunder watch for the notice and help if you are able to do so |
| 19:33.57 | Tullethre | I was careful to delete any previously existing folders from C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Interface\addons too. |
| 19:33.59 | Nechckn | thank yoo |
| 19:34.14 | Nechckn | Tullethre okay, that's good Most miss that step |
| 19:34.23 | Nechckn | since the whole suite has changed, it causes issues |
| 19:34.39 | Nechckn | Tullethre what is not working, as you see it? |
| 19:34.51 | thunder | thank you very much for your time and the complete description - now all things are ok und working :-) |
| 19:35.04 | Nechckn | thunder Awesome - Happy Sales! |
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| 19:35.20 | Tullethre | !Swatter capture an error message. Am I able to paste it here? |
| 19:35.27 | thunder | thank you :-) have a good time & cu |
| 19:35.27 | Tullethre | captured |
| 19:36.00 | Nechckn | Tullethre paste the error to http://Norganna.Pastey.Net and return the URL assigned here |
| 19:38.37 | Tullethre | Here is your URL: http://norganna.pastey.net/98488-yo4j |
| 19:38.48 | Tullethre | I hope that this helps |
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| 19:39.57 | Nechckn | ok according to the set, none of the Auctioneer suite is loaded |
| 19:40.16 | Tullethre | hmmm |
| 19:40.32 | Nechckn | and you have all version 5 of the suite addons |
| 19:40.46 | Tullethre | yes |
| 19:41.03 | Tullethre | with regard to Auctioneer |
| 19:41.15 | SNiLD | http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/?dl=Packages3/AuctioneerSuite-5.1.3613.zip |
| 19:41.22 | SNiLD | that is the link to the newest version of the suite |
| 19:41.32 | Tullethre | ok |
| 19:41.41 | Nechckn | you need to re-download a copy of the suite and reinstall... we're at 5.1.3613 |
| 19:42.04 | Nechckn | The direct link may not work because of the download mirrors |
| 19:42.06 | Tullethre | Will do |
| 19:42.11 | Tullethre | Thank you for the help |
| 19:42.21 | Nechckn | np, let us know if you get in |
| 19:42.36 | Tullethre | Also will do much appreciated |
| 19:42.41 | SNiLD | doesn't the dl script forward toward the mirror? ;) |
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| 19:43.05 | Nechckn | we had issues with circumvention of the mirror system |
| 19:43.17 | Nechckn | so, it will kick you out if you don't go the right way |
| 19:43.28 | Nechckn | aka if you try to download anonymously |
| 19:43.29 | SNiLD | i see |
| 19:44.00 | SNiLD | users might not see the most current version on the page though due to proxy issues |
| 19:47.40 | Tullethre | The ttp://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/?dl=Packages3/AuctioneerSuite-5.1.3613.zip does not include the classic auctioneer addons do I delete those or install this suite inaddition to those? |
| 19:47.58 | Annon999 | Where is enchantix? |
| 19:48.04 | SNiLD | auctioneer classic is discontinued |
| 19:48.10 | Tullethre | Thank you |
| 19:48.11 | SNiLD | and will not work with 3.0.2 |
| 19:48.27 | Nechckn | Tullethre you need to remove all of the old files - then update |
| 19:48.33 | Tullethre | Ahhh! Therein lies the rub |
| 19:48.36 | Tullethre | Thank you again |
| 19:49.24 | Annon999 | What has happened to enchantrix? |
| 19:49.34 | Nechckn | Annon999 nothing, why? |
| 19:49.49 | Annon999 | it was not included in my DL |
| 19:50.00 | Nechckn | it's still included in the AuctioneerSuite and also as a seperate download |
| 19:50.10 | Nechckn | if you don't see it, you didn't download the Suite |
| 19:50.16 | mattbnr | if its not loading for you type /enx load always |
| 19:50.19 | Aesir | Try "/enchantrix load always" |
| 19:50.26 | SNiLD | people are not downloading from auctioneeraddon.com? :/ |
| 19:50.30 | Nechckn | the standalone Auctioneer pack does not include Enchantrix |
| 19:50.32 | Annon999 | Thank you, I will try it |
| 19:51.09 | Nechckn | SNiLD no idea... but we keep our server up to date, Curse, and WoWInterface |
| 19:51.18 | Nechckn | those are the only 3 "official" download locales |
| 19:51.38 | Nechckn | anywhere else- and they are taking their computer into their own hands. =) |
| 19:52.00 | SNiLD | so... now my computer is in your hands O_O |
| 19:52.29 | Nechckn | Maybe... I'll never tell. |
| 19:52.51 | Aesir | argh... wowi has a new flood control in place. I can't use FF to "Open All In Tabs" now for my fav addon pages. |
| 19:53.57 | Tullethre | It works! Yaaay! Thank you so much for the help |
| 19:54.11 | Aesir | have fun! |
| 19:54.40 | SNiLD | what a sad quit message :'( |
| 19:55.04 | Aesir | I'm going to put in my quit message "I fixed typos and small things in Auctioneer suite, and all they got me was this stupid t-shirt." |
| 19:55.16 | SNiLD | :D |
| 19:55.34 | SNiLD | "all they got me was this stupid quit message." |
| 19:55.39 | Aesir | lol |
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| 19:59.30 | JoBbZ | hm |
| 19:59.51 | JoBbZ | has anyone reported an issue with stubby, where if you had auctioner-advanced designed to go to a separate chat window pre-3.0.2, that after 3.0.2 and upgrading to 5.1, you get no messages in any chat windows? |
| 20:01.00 | RockSlice | Aesir: we get t-shirts? |
| 20:02.22 | ZealotOnAStick | does the auc/ench suite support milling yet usefully? |
| 20:03.00 | Aesir | Rock, you didn't get the memo? (..about the TPS reports?) |
| 20:03.59 | Aesir | JoBbZ: Several reported issues with Stubby errors. But so far, the issue isn't Stubby but with ACE libraries for addons (including one mentioned.. Metamap). |
| 20:04.23 | ZealotOnAStick | metamap uses ace libs? |
| 20:04.40 | RockSlice | TPS? |
| 20:04.41 | ZealotOnAStick | for that matter, metamap is still active? |
| 20:04.41 | Aesir | I have no idea. |
| 20:05.01 | Aesir | Rock - obscure reference to Office Space. |
| 20:05.11 | sett_ | guys do u think its useful to use auctioneer these days? i mean prices are really going volatile and continue that way |
| 20:05.32 | Aesir | Now there's a question to sink teeth into. |
| 20:05.32 | JoBbZ | Hm, I don't use metamap |
| 20:05.36 | sett_ | lots of things change u cant decide to buy anything its deteriorating |
| 20:05.42 | JoBbZ | There's a metamap developer in france |
| 20:05.43 | RockSlice | ah. watched a few episodes, concluded that its humor was too low for me |
| 20:05.54 | JoBbZ | he did some updates for 2.4 |
| 20:05.58 | JoBbZ | dunno if he'll do 3.x |
| 20:06.02 | Aesir | JoBbZ. Try this, disable all addons except Auctioneer related ones. See if the issue persists. |
| 20:06.31 | ZealotOnAStick | sett_: depends what you use Auctioneer for. Me, I'm cashing in on the temporary surge in ench mats prices. |
| 20:06.44 | RockSlice | sett_: it is still useful, but as always, you need to be aware of the market |
| 20:06.50 | Aesir | Rock, I don't know if the Office Space series is related to the movie I was thinking of. But here's the real office space: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0151804/ |
| 20:06.59 | RockSlice | it is merely a tool, not a Make Money button |
| 20:07.15 | RockSlice | Aesir: sorry. thinking the wrong thing |
| 20:07.25 | sett_ | well it is a make money button when the prices are relatively stable |
| 20:07.34 | Aesir | nah, it's ok. As I get older, my obscure references become more ... ah.. obscure. |
| 20:07.39 | RockSlice | Office Space is a decent movie. still too low-brow humor for me |
| 20:07.43 | ZealotOnAStick | Ooh, that's a good idea RockSlice! I'll go put in a feature request for that. |
| 20:07.46 | sett_ | lots of times i've bought some recipe cuz some fool put it for 50g and it costed 500-600 )) |
| 20:08.10 | RockSlice | ZealotOnAStick: don't bother. we already have a jira for that, i think... |
| 20:08.16 | sett_ | but now it does not work that way cuz all the tbc things devalue |
| 20:08.28 | SNiLD | sett_: not necessary all |
| 20:08.29 | ZealotOnAStick | RockSlice: I was kidding, fyi. |
| 20:08.54 | SNiLD | sett_: pay attention to the price development, that you can see by watching the stats generated by the auc-stat-simple |
| 20:08.54 | sett_ | SNiLD what do u think wont devalue? herbs? |
| 20:09.07 | SNiLD | herbs for one yes |
| 20:09.20 | JoBbZ | ok, where is the setting for auctioneer saved as to what channel it uses to output its messages to? |
| 20:09.40 | SNiLD | a module to see overall droppers and risers of the 3/7/14 days would be awesome ;D |
| 20:09.44 | sett_ | well u could also think that large prismatics wont devalue cuz they will be needed for leveling enchanting for example but there's an oversupply of certain items |
| 20:09.50 | ZealotOnAStick | Herbs are spiking absurdly short-term. They'll go back to leveling out, but they've always been a solid money maker. Enchanting mats are up stupidly (at least on Blackhand) temporarily. |
| 20:10.46 | sett_ | so wouls someone decide now to buyout all of this cheap mats to wait like half a year and start reselling them lol |
| 20:11.00 | SNiLD | :D |
| 20:11.10 | SNiLD | if you have that kind of market insight why are you playing wow? ;) |
| 20:11.12 | ZealotOnAStick | I was buying herbs for the last 2 months to prepare for my powerleveling of Inscription yesterday. |
| 20:11.16 | SNiLD | you'd make millions irl |
| 20:11.18 | Aesir | JoBbZ: I have mine going to Combat chat. I think the option was in General or whatever the first configuration option in the list is. |
| 20:11.34 | sett_ | well i dont really need a lot of money in rl atm |
| 20:11.35 | Nechckn | I sat on "old world" rep items that I got stuck with when 2.0 hit |
| 20:11.44 | sett_ | i have enough tbh to play wow ) |
| 20:11.45 | Nechckn | and I cashed in for the past few months |
| 20:11.52 | sett_ | and it entertains me most |
| 20:12.01 | JoBbZ | Aesir: Right, but I found that I can't change it via the options menu any more |
| 20:12.05 | Nechckn | since people were bored and went back to doing some of the older conten |
| 20:12.20 | JoBbZ | Aesir: i.e., if I change it from the "auctioneer" channel I created, to general, that doesn't get saved when I log back in |
| 20:12.32 | JoBbZ | Aesir: So I wanted to know what config file that's saved it in my saved variables so I can reset it to general |
| 20:13.03 | Nechckn | JoBbZ you need to open a ticket for that- it will likely continually get reset |
| 20:13.21 | Nechckn | seems there was some change under the hood so many of the options don't quite stick as they should |
| 20:13.30 | Aesir | Nikk, can it be tacked to the existing ticket for vars not being saved? |
| 20:13.31 | sett_ | btw most of the guids that sell on internet about gold farming tell people how to use auctioneer addon lol |
| 20:13.54 | JoBbZ | Nechckn: So there's no way I can modify a saved file while logged out to fix it? |
| 20:14.03 | JoBbZ | All I awnt to do is reset it to the default |
| 20:14.06 | Nechckn | If it's a ticket in the Auc-Advanced category. If not, tehn it has to go under a new ticket for AHWC |
| 20:14.09 | JoBbZ | I'm assuming my non-default settings are saved somewhere :P |
| 20:14.23 | ZealotOnAStick | SNiLD: if I could find a way to make money IRL as effectively as I can in WoW, I'd do that in an instant. I've not found anything nearly so easy. |
| 20:14.24 | Nechckn | You want it to go where? |
| 20:14.41 | SNiLD | ZealotOnAStick: i agree |
| 20:14.45 | sett_ | do auctioneer developers have some guy who does the addon interface design? seems like hardcore programmers coded it ) |
| 20:14.51 | Nechckn | JoBbZ where is it going and where do you want it to go? |
| 20:15.04 | Nechckn | sett_ it's a group activity |
| 20:15.05 | JoBbZ | Nechckn: I had set it, pre 3.0.2, to go to a channel I created called "Auctioneer" |
| 20:15.14 | JoBbZ | Nechckn: And what I want it to do, is be reset to the default "General" |
| 20:15.23 | Nechckn | ok.. hold on |
| 20:15.26 | SNiLD | sett_: sssshh don't talk about interface design, that's tabu ;) |
| 20:15.27 | ZealotOnAStick | unfortunately, RL stock and commodities markets require a fair chunk of money to begin speculating in. |
| 20:15.41 | sett_ | it's a bit messy and has a lot of options I personally dont get |
| 20:16.15 | Nechckn | If you have a coherent plan, by all means post in the Auctioneer section of the Forums |
| 20:16.20 | JoBbZ | yeah, I wish I could farm ore in RL and sell it :P |
| 20:16.33 | sett_ | well i am a mac user for a year lol u can imagine my suggestions ) |
| 20:16.34 | JoBbZ | with big yellow dots markign the veins |
| 20:16.48 | sett_ | one big buttons GO and another big MAKE GOLD |
| 20:16.51 | SNiLD | JoBbZ: you can! :) |
| 20:16.58 | Nechckn | what does not help is when folks are like " this sucks... " if we know what changes to make - and can technically make them, it's no biggie |
| 20:17.15 | Aesir | I just wish folks in IRL would stop flashing red when beyond 36 meters. |
| 20:17.33 | SNiLD | hm |
| 20:17.40 | SNiLD | is there an addon for such thing (in wow)? |
| 20:18.12 | Aesir | Well, I use one to flash the buttons but I'm not aware of one that flashes the MOBs. |
| 20:18.15 | SNiLD | to color other players when they're out of range |
| 20:19.07 | Aesir | No, but thanks for pointing out the flaw in my RL range-addon. :) |
| 20:19.15 | SNiLD | :D |
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| 20:19.37 | SNiLD | i'm sure they'll turn red when you shoot your fireball at them... |
| 20:19.39 | Darkanion | Hey Everyone |
| 20:20.04 | Aesir | hIi, Darkanion |
| 20:20.06 | SNiLD | going to bed kthxbye |
| 20:20.21 | Aesir | take care |
| 20:20.30 | Nechckn | JoBbZ in Auc-Advanced.lua search for printwindow |
| 20:20.33 | Nechckn | set that to 1 |
| 20:20.46 | Darkanion | Quick question. I have the gatherer DB installed in my wow folder but it says its out of date and wont load it =/ Anyone know if there is a newer one out. I just downloaded the one on the main db page |
| 20:20.47 | Nechckn | Make a backup before changing, etc.... |
| 20:21.11 | Nechckn | set the "load out of date" checkbox |
| 20:21.22 | Nechckn | It will still run |
| 20:21.30 | JoBbZ | thanks! |
| 20:21.32 | Darkanion | did that, still wont load it, wont come up with the red button to load the data |
| 20:21.53 | Tuph | RockSlice? |
| 20:21.55 | Darkanion | brb lemme try again |
| 20:22.04 | Nechckn | and you have it set to load with the gold X in the checkbox? |
| 20:22.35 | Nechckn | Tuph we have him hidden away, in the celar |
| 20:22.51 | Darkanion | Yeah, have it checked with load out of date addons |
| 20:22.56 | JoBbZ | Nechckn: Hm, I don't see it in WTF\Account\<username>\realm\<character>\savedVariables\auc-advanced.lua |
| 20:23.07 | Tuph | damn, anyway to bring him out? i ran that command he mentioned |
| 20:23.17 | JoBbZ | Nechckn: or in WTF\Account\username\savedVariables\auc-advanced.lua |
| 20:23.37 | Nechckn | shold be the first one you listed, JoBbZ |
| 20:24.28 | Nechckn | lemme dig around and see if it comes through differently in the WTF |
| 20:24.29 | JoBbZ | hm, that just has 4 lines :P |
| 20:24.31 | Nechckn | that should be it |
| 20:24.32 | JoBbZ | ok |
| 20:24.49 | JoBbZ | AucAdvanedLocal={ ["Stats"]= { }, } |
| 20:24.54 | JoBbZ | putting it into a single line :P |
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| 20:25.14 | Nechckn | Tuph What command/for what situation? |
| 20:25.39 | Tuph | Was asked to run /run AucAdvanced.Print(tostring(AucAdvanced.Modules.Stat.Simple.GetPrice(select(2, GetItemInfo(21877))))) |
| 20:25.44 | Tuph | I did, it returned 0 |
| 20:25.57 | RockSlice | interesting |
| 20:26.10 | Tuph | re-running AH scan again |
| 20:27.50 | JoBbZ | Nechckn: After disabling the other mods, it saved |
| 20:27.54 | JoBbZ | Nechckn: yeah :P |
| 20:28.07 | Nechckn | weird.... |
| 20:29.05 | Aesir | Ok, so folks complain about UI design here lately. I'm trying to recover lost data off a drive with a bad sector or so in the worst place. My recovery tool options include "Paranoid -Brute Force Disabled" or "Paranoid - Brute Force Enabled". How's that for humano-centric UI design? |
| 20:29.28 | Nechckn | RockSlice where the heck is the output window for the Auc events saved? it should be printwindow from what I see in Coresettings |
| 20:29.46 | JoBbZ | Aesir: I tracked down the problematic mod for my situation |
| 20:29.52 | JoBbZ | Aesir: It's Deadly Boss Mods |
| 20:30.08 | Aesir | Ah ok. It interacts with the chatbox? |
| 20:30.18 | Aesir | Or does it communicate with others that also use that mod? |
| 20:30.30 | JoBbZ | Aesir: Well, I know it tracks timers and the like in PvP |
| 20:30.35 | JoBbZ | so I'm guessing it interacts with the chat box |
| 20:30.42 | RockSlice | Nechckn: looks right |
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| 20:31.08 | Tuph | RockSlice: what should that command have returned? |
| 20:31.20 | Aesir | JoBbZMight be worth tracking the mod owner down to report it for a fix. |
| 20:31.21 | Nechckn | hmm... so odd. No bother ;-) |
| 20:31.33 | mib_xmfbspjr | anybody else having trouble with auctioneer not saving config on logout? |
| 20:31.34 | JoBbZ | Aesir: Yup, figuring out where I get it from now |
| 20:31.39 | RockSlice | Tuph: something to let me know what's going on internally |
| 20:31.50 | JoBbZ | mib_xfmbspjr: Lots of mods are having that problem right now |
| 20:32.09 | RockSlice | it was 0, which means your tooltip isn't showing up because Simple doesn't have any data |
| 20:32.16 | RockSlice | or enough data |
| 20:32.41 | RockSlice | or because something's screwy |
| 20:33.06 | RockSlice | i was really hoping for either a 'nil' or some number other than 0 |
| 20:33.06 | mib_xmfbspjr | k...well was just curious if someone was on it...i had read in forum the devs were blaming it on blizzard |
| 20:33.15 | Tuph | I ran the scan a few times. it now shows me "Seen 623 today" and lists a single number for price |
| 20:33.29 | Tuph | but no breakdown of buyout, bid, suggested price |
| 20:33.29 | JoBbZ | ah, there's an update for DBM already |
| 20:33.33 | JoBbZ | goes to grab it. |
| 20:33.35 | RockSlice | in the Simple section, Tuph? |
| 20:34.31 | Tuph | Yes. In the tooltip under "Simple Prices" |
| 20:34.43 | Aesir | mib: can you link the post in question, because afaik, the 'blizzard' bug has to do with item charges and the default AH Auctions tab |
| 20:34.55 | Tuph | the Market value still shows up as "no matches in image" even tho it is in the image |
| 20:35.24 | mib_xmfbspjr | can try...might be a few secs :) |
| 20:35.49 | Aesir | There was suspicion about a *_frame.xml but I'm not aware of that being confirmed as a blizz bug. |
| 20:36.04 | RockSlice | Tuph: can you take another screenshot? |
| 20:37.43 | Tuph | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:38.26 | Tuph | In addition, it seems to be scanning whenever I open/search for anything, i guess this is supposed to happen? |
| 20:38.53 | mattbnr | no searchui? what??? |
| 20:39.13 | JoBbZ | sweet, after updating DBM, everything is happy |
| 20:39.14 | JoBbZ | thank god |
| 20:39.32 | Aesir | JoBbZ, cool beans |
| 20:40.47 | mib_xmfbspjr | well cant seem to find the post...sigh... |
| 20:40.56 | Aesir | mib_xmfbspjr : This is the error I'm referring to - http://forums.norganna.org/discussion/8062/error-in-blizzardauctionui/ |
| 20:41.35 | Aesir | But.. you came in with a question, and I assume it wasn't to track down blame. What's happening with your Auctioneer? |
| 20:42.09 | mib_xmfbspjr | nah..that doesnt sound like it at all |
| 20:42.33 | mib_xmfbspjr | it just forgets my tooltip setting when i log the toon off |
| 20:42.35 | RockSlice | Tuph: it looks like simple's slowly getting data |
| 20:42.38 | mib_xmfbspjr | er settings |
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| 20:43.07 | RockSlice | just do a few full scans a day, and items will start having prices |
| 20:43.25 | Aesir | mib: I do think that's one of ours. There are some changes wrt to saves coming up, but beyond that I have to defer to folks smarter than I... like Rockslice or Nikk or Matt. :) |
| 20:43.32 | mib_xmfbspjr | i set the tooltip stat settings....then mouseover...items in bag have std dev mean info etc...i log off and it is gone |
| 20:43.42 | Tuph | think the breakdowns will also start appearing? |
| 20:43.47 | Josh_0090 | Hey, I have a quick question... I've "embedded" everything in the main tooltip that I can figure out how to do, but I can't manage to embed the appraisal data. |
| 20:43.59 | Josh_0090 | And I also can't figure out how to turn off the auction deposit. |
| 20:44.13 | RockSlice | Tuph: yup. Simple prices are broken down into 3-day, 7-day, and 14-day averages |
| 20:44.17 | Bendable | Hi guys, I've got 5.1.3613 installed, but I believe something is not quite right. For more than 24 hours now I've not found a single disenchant item. I've got 1c minimum profit set in the searcher, and Disenchant is enabled in realtime. What else can I check? |
| 20:44.26 | RockSlice | so if you only have one day of prices, it isn't going to show them |
| 20:44.43 | Tuph | RockSlice: 2 final UI errors/changes I've noticed |
| 20:44.44 | mib_xmfbspjr | even with multiple scans? |
| 20:45.09 | Tuph | 1...A lot of items are listed as "Class: Glyph" which is incorrect |
| 20:45.23 | RockSlice | mib_xmfbspjr: can you check that your WTF folder hasn't become read-only? |
| 20:45.23 | Bendable | Done about 10 scans now. It's rare that I don't find at least one disenchant. |
| 20:45.44 | Tuph | and 2...Is there a way to allow apraiser to show/not show certain columns? |
| 20:45.52 | Nechckn | Bendable, remember to activate RTS via the button at the top of the Browse Frame |
| 20:46.00 | Nechckn | if it's not on, it won't be searching |
| 20:46.08 | mib_xmfbspjr | ok...never thought about the read only thing |
| 20:46.10 | Bendable | It's on |
| 20:46.24 | Nechckn | left click to activate/deactivate right click to configure |
| 20:46.46 | Nechckn | Is it highlighted, so that the magnifying glass glows Yellow? |
| 20:46.46 | Bendable | I've found lots of resales, and a few vindorables (on the horde side only), so I know it's on and working. |
| 20:46.51 | RockSlice | Bendable: does SearchUI find anything to DE if you do a search on the snapshot? |
| 20:46.53 | Bendable | Yes |
| 20:46.56 | Nechckn | Oh... that's different then |
| 20:47.22 | Nechckn | check the Searcher settings- remember that prices are insane on most realms |
| 20:47.38 | mib_xmfbspjr | wth....WTF is read only for all files within |
| 20:47.49 | Nechckn | if you look and find an item that you know should be picked up, do a screenshot of the item and the tooltip, while holding Shift |
| 20:47.58 | RockSlice | Bendable: in SearchUI's general section, you can turn on debug text in the tooltip for auctions |
| 20:48.13 | Bendable | I'll turn on debugging and give it a try... |
| 20:48.19 | mib_xmfbspjr | being a vista noobie...only options are read only and hidden |
| 20:49.01 | Nechckn | mib_xmfbspjr vista has really not done well with the whole upgrade... just a general comment, so you could get weird issues |
| 20:49.31 | Nechckn | I've seen more than a few have to reinstall the game because they agreed to the prompt to move the game or whatever... |
| 20:50.06 | Nechckn | *I've not upgraded my WoW install on Vista, but those have been the reports.* |
| 20:50.34 | Shirik | I had no issues on vista |
| 20:50.38 | mib_xmfbspjr | yea...first thing i noticed this morning is all my addons are in c:\users\public\games\world of worldcraft\interface\addons....instead of in the normal shorter wow addon directory |
| 20:51.52 | Shirik | purl, vistawow is <reply> Before you go around complaining about how horrible Vista is and that Microsoft fails, try reading this and understanding what was done and why, instead: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14650 |
| 20:51.53 | purl | okay, Shirik |
| 20:51.56 | mib_xmfbspjr | so i should NOT switch WTF to hidden? leave it at read-only? |
| 21:02.20 | RockSlice | is it possible? a full 10-minute pause? |
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| 21:09.52 | Nechckn | SHHHH!!! |
| 21:10.13 | ^nbot | Bug 03INF-33 10Shalewind: Item Class Incorrect06* (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/INF-33 10 |
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| 21:22.30 | wraithkwk | anyone here |
| 21:22.42 | mattbnr | I am |
| 21:23.22 | wraithkwk | i was just wondering if anyone was having an issue with auctioneer not scanning herbs |
| 21:23.34 | mattbnr | I done know let me ask |
| 21:23.53 | mattbnr | as in what? |
| 21:24.17 | Zyzzx | Hello, I have a question about searchUI? I have it set up, it is finding what I am looking for, but when I click purchase nothing happens |
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| 21:24.49 | mattbnr | did you just do a recent ah scan? |
| 21:24.53 | Zyzzx | Yes |
| 21:24.58 | wraithkwk | peacebloom, strangle kelp silverleaf earthroot |
| 21:25.23 | mattbnr | wrath- nope I haven't noticed that at all how do you know its not scannign the herbs? |
| 21:25.29 | mattbnr | and are you current up to date |
| 21:25.58 | Zyzzx | Think so... let me check |
| 21:26.29 | Zyzzx | d'oh! You sneaked a version in on me. Let me update! :) |
| 21:26.37 | mattbnr | lol |
| 21:26.52 | wraithkwk | Auction detail is not showing any prices or rather proper prices |
| 21:27.21 | mattbnr | I assume you hav scanned a couple times already with auctioneer? |
| 21:28.08 | Zyzzx | Yes. Many tiems over the years |
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| 21:28.19 | mattbnr | no no I mena recently |
| 21:28.32 | mattbnr | and I assume you have the latest release of auctioneer d/l from our site |
| 21:29.17 | wraithkwk | i think i see whats going on |
| 21:29.26 | mattbnr | .... |
| 21:29.28 | mattbnr | do tell |
| 21:30.15 | wraithkwk | I think Appraiser is trying to undersell everyone |
| 21:30.35 | Nechckn | wraithkwk Not everyone, it works according to how you have it set |
| 21:30.39 | mattbnr | do you have the "enable price matcher" marked |
| 21:31.04 | Nechckn | look in the options, under Matchers specifically Match-Undercut |
| 21:31.11 | Nechckn | change that as you see fit |
| 21:33.50 | wraithkwk | OK i got it this time the economy on my server is horrid price per item ranges from 3g to 50s so appraiser is just suggesting somwhere in the middle |
| 21:34.02 | mattbnr | probably |
| 21:34.49 | wraithkwk | I feel dumb |
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| 21:36.38 | mattbnr | nah it happens |
| 21:39.59 | RockSlice | wraithkwk: regarding herbs, prices just jumped massively, so it's possible that Filter-Outlier thinks everyone is trying to poison the data |
| 21:40.23 | RockSlice | to solve it, simply turn off Filter-Outlier for the relevant itemqualities for a week or so |
| 21:40.28 | mattbnr | I might disable my outlier for a week or so just so it dossnt ignore all the high prices |
| 21:40.58 | wraithkwk | any chance there is a way to set it so that its suggested price is in the 110% price lvl range |
| 21:41.04 | wraithkwk | Um or what u guys said |
| 21:45.05 | Bendable | Lol, duh, "Skill not high enough to DE". Okay, it's fixed now. I can see lots of DE's now. |
| 21:45.40 | RockSlice | :) |
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| 21:59.20 | achiew | I just downloaded the newest auctioneer. looks great but i have one question. where did the tooltip go that would tell you if "competition above market" or "undercutting 5%" or "cannot match lowest price" i rather liked those. are they simply gone or can they be enabled? |
| 22:03.44 | RockSlice | If you go to AucAdv's options, General section, at the very top you'll see "enable scan data tooltip" |
| 22:04.20 | RockSlice | that will give a one-line indication of where the items currently at auction are |
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| 22:11.44 | achiew | how do you make auctioneer put the suggested sell price automatically like in the old version? |
| 22:11.54 | RockSlice | you use the Appraiser tab |
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| 22:13.00 | achiew | i mean when you create an auction i want it to put it how much i should sell it for when i drag the item onto the auction screen. |
| 22:13.25 | RockSlice | you use the Appraiser tab |
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| 22:14.59 | Narlya | Hi |
| 22:15.22 | *** topic/#norganna by Nechckn -> Auctioneer version 5.1.3620 (WoW-3.0 compatible) available || Gatherer 3.1.4 Released! || http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl & http://gathereraddon.com/dl || Post bugs on Jira or http://norganna.pastey.net || General WoW chatter in #WoWUIDev || Uploads to http://Up.Norganna.Org (if asked) || Patience, my young padawan... |
| 22:15.38 | Nechckn | Hello, Narlya how can we be of assistance? |
| 22:15.44 | Narlya | Where is the bug tracker for Auctionner, i spot some the last time i try after the patch and i want to check if it's ok now |
| 22:16.24 | Narlya | I try http://auctioneeraddon.com/scm/ but that don't seems to be valid |
| 22:16.29 | RockSlice | what bugs were you seeing? |
| 22:16.38 | RockSlice | we use jira.norganna.org |
| 22:16.50 | Narlya | I will try again, i don't remember |
| 22:16.54 | Narlya | Thanks |
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| 22:20.13 | Narlya | Can we share the auctionner data beetween accounts ? |
| 22:20.17 | gshine | My "post auction" tab is gone! I dont' remember ever having to set that up before, am I supposed to? |
| 22:21.19 | RockSlice | gshine: use the Appraiser tab |
| 22:21.31 | RockSlice | Narlya: not without copying files manually |
| 22:21.54 | Narlya | Is there an howto somewhere ? |
| 22:22.14 | RockSlice | not really. search the forums for "symlink" |
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| 22:25.33 | gshine | Ok I see now. Thank you RockSlice |
| 22:25.48 | Narlya | Thanks RockSlice |
| 22:29.16 | ^nbot | New Feature 03ASER-115 10RockSlice: Have a default saved search that doesn't need to be saved manually06 (04Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-115 10 |
| 22:29.21 | ^nbot | New Feature 03ASER-116 10RockSlice: Add callback to searcher/filter modules telling them to reload their settings06 (04Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-116 10 |
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| 22:31.18 | ^nbot | New Feature 03ASER-116 10RockSlice: Add callback to searcher/filter modules telling them to reload their settings06 (04In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-116 10RockSlice: most of the work already done in r3620. Assigning to me t... |
| 22:34.35 | TheFool | Hey guys... Can anyone tell me if there's a way to keep my auction data when upgrading to a new version of Auctioneer? |
| 22:34.52 | TheFool | I've always had to start the scanning over and get new prices for everything, I didn't know if it was possible to just keep that data |
| 22:35.26 | Nechckn | TheFool normally the data will simply go on being used by the next version |
| 22:36.02 | Nechckn | This time, we had a big change to Auctioneer, so any AuctioneerClassic data, if not previously converted, is no good. |
| 22:36.26 | Nechckn | To keep the data for subsequent versions- don't empty your WTF and SavedVariables folder |
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| 22:38.58 | auctioneersux | anyone else very unhappy with the new auctioneer? |
| 22:39.15 | TheFool | Is there a new folder that Auctioneer needs to be extracted to to work? |
| 22:39.46 | auctioneersux | it wont even show the suggested price of an item in your inventory |
| 22:40.36 | RockSlice | if you're having problems with the new version of Auctioneer, please change your nick to something a bit more respectful, and ask for help |
| 22:41.56 | Aesir | TheFool - Remove your old Auctioneer related folders from ..\AddOns\.. then extract the new version. Please save time and go through the installation/upgrade wiki at http://wiki.norganna.org/Auctioneer/Installing |
| 22:42.28 | nothappy | ok, now back to the subject. Why did they change everything and make it so complicated |
| 22:42.35 | Nechckn | With what do you have issue? |
| 22:42.54 | Nechckn | The changes were made to allow folks to be able to use an auctioning mod in 3.0 |
| 22:43.28 | nothappy | the scanning, the adding multiple auctions, the fact that it doesnt show the recommended prices of an item in my inventory, the layout. and more |
| 22:43.37 | Nechckn | If you prefer a simple undercutter, there are those out there for that |
| 22:43.52 | bleeter | oO DMF cards are no longer vendorable? :( |
| 22:43.52 | Nechckn | Post using the Appraiser frame |
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| 22:44.17 | lilymage_0083 | hi there |
| 22:44.22 | Nechckn | all of the prices are the same as before, such as suggestions, remembering the last price, posting stacks, etc |
| 22:44.30 | Nechckn | Hello, lilymage_0083 |
| 22:44.30 | nothappy | I prefer the version of Auctioneer that everyone liked. |
| 22:44.42 | Nechckn | That's fine, so did I |
| 22:44.55 | Nechckn | but, this is what we have to work with going forward |
| 22:45.01 | bleeter | nothappy: feel free to fork and maintain the code |
| 22:45.02 | nothappy | For instace, I just got a rare recipe drop and I wanted to see the going rate for it in my inventory. All it says is "Suggest Auction |
| 22:45.16 | TheFool | Ok, thanks. |
| 22:45.27 | nothappy | I mean "Auction this item" |
| 22:45.28 | Nechckn | Okay, so you need to enable some statistics in the options |
| 22:45.49 | Nechckn | no problem... there are almost 20 different values that you can have |
| 22:46.21 | lilymage_0083 | hi,i used classis version, all my stuff will give me status how mnay time s it s been sold , and price , |
| 22:46.28 | Nechckn | the #1 issue is that there was too much tooltip data, so by default there is only the Appraiser price- which you need to scan for a few days to build up data to get the pricing to a reasonable level |
| 22:46.54 | lilymage_0083 | now i cant see those information |
| 22:47.20 | Nechckn | lilymage_0083 you will need to scan for a few days to build up new information |
| 22:47.25 | lilymage_0083 | and when i use scan, i set up criteria like 50% profit or 1G profit and it will give me a list of all the stuff i can buy |
| 22:47.41 | lilymage_0083 | now in the new version, where i can get the same function? |
| 22:47.43 | Nechckn | We had notices up for the past 5 months reminding folks to convert their statistics |
| 22:47.44 | nothappy | Im not trying to be a complainer, but you took the best auction program there is. Simple to use and very nice and made it into the hardest program to configure |
| 22:48.03 | Nechckn | if you didn't see the notices, it's not that big of a things- all of the markets are totally different now |
| 22:48.11 | lilymage_0083 | i used the real time search,and it give me all goods,not only those 50% cheaper or 1G cheaper |
| 22:48.34 | Nechckn | nothappy it works with the defaults righ after being set up- as long as you take a few days to scan to gather data |
| 22:49.02 | lilymage_0083 | how can i get all the items say 1G cheaper? |
| 22:49.16 | Nechckn | 1G cheaper when? when posting? |
| 22:49.17 | lilymage_0083 | or at least 30% cheaper? |
| 22:50.12 | Nechckn | When posting? you need to set up the Match-Undercut in the Auctioneer settings |
| 22:50.21 | Nechckn | it's in the "Matcher" section |
| 22:50.27 | lilymage_0083 | previous version, u scan and it will give you as soon as you finish your scan, you can change your criteiria to set up you want to search for items sold 30% cheaper or 1G cheaper and it will give you the list for all the items |
| 22:50.38 | Nechckn | there you can tell it to undercut by whatever amount you like |
| 22:51.02 | Nechckn | lilymage_0083 to search for bargains- that is all in SearchUI and RealTimeSearch |
| 22:51.10 | nothappy | Can you recommend an auction program that it doesn't take a dev or rocket scientist to use? |
| 22:51.16 | Nechckn | if you right click the magnifying glass you will see the help/welcome message |
| 22:51.47 | lilymage_0083 | i did the real time search, and it give me 556 page ,and with some items there, some showed 24%, some showes 99% , some showed 399% |
| 22:51.53 | Nechckn | nothappy there is one other on the market- all it does is undercut every current competitor it's called Auctionator |
| 22:52.12 | Nechckn | lilymage_0083 That's because you need to scan the AH more |
| 22:52.25 | Nechckn | all of the markets went crazy with the change over to 3.0 |
| 22:52.35 | lilymage_0083 | i just want to search for item which show me 30% cheaper or 1g cheaper |
| 22:52.44 | Nechckn | items that were outrageously priced in the past are now worth nothing |
| 22:52.52 | lilymage_0083 | how can i do that? |
| 22:52.59 | Nechckn | Ok.. so set that in the Resale Searcher options |
| 22:53.10 | lilymage_0083 | i did |
| 22:53.14 | Nechckn | use 30% and 1g as the criteria |
| 22:53.22 | Nechckn | You'll get a huge list of items |
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| 22:53.49 | lilymage_0083 | still show me a big list of item, which the price not only 30% cheaper but even 399% above.. |
| 22:53.52 | Nechckn | most likely because you need more scan data and, there are many things that you can make 1G by purchasing |
| 22:54.15 | ^nbot | New Feature 03ASER-119 10alcaras: multiSearch - Allow users to select all the searches they'd like to do, then do them all at once06* (04Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-119 10 |
| 22:54.21 | lilymage_0083 | the program changed so much and it s really very difficult to use |
| 22:54.36 | lilymage_0083 | and i see a lot of ppl now use channel to sell in stead of AH |
| 22:55.58 | bleeter | ... coz ppl want the quick sale |
| 22:56.11 | bleeter | coz the market's screwed anyway |
| 22:56.17 | Aesir | lilymage - even if Auctioneer didn't change at all, you would see that. the pricing for new items it all over the map. |
| 22:56.29 | Nechckn | they left |
| 22:56.36 | Nechckn | or were d/ced |
| 22:56.42 | bleeter | nothappy: a lot of the now configurable stuff was stuff that was previously under the hood |
| 22:57.07 | nothappy | Of course the market is screwed up, that isn't peoples point on this. Auctioneer is extremely hard to use now and has more options than wow itself |
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| 22:57.14 | bleeter | nothappy: people asked that it be 'exposed', and we couldnt' do that without a rewrite, and the rewrite enabled us to make a lot of other new stuff that we'd planned as 'under the hood' to be exposed as well |
| 22:57.32 | bleeter | a lot of the difficulty is having never understood auctioneer in the first place, imo |
| 22:57.43 | lilymage_0017 | i am in the game now, can u show me how to search for itmes like 50% cheaper or 20G cheaper again? |
| 22:58.00 | RockSlice | lilymage_0017: right-click the mag glass |
| 22:58.14 | nothappy | well, i can tell you that a lot of people aren't happy and are switching to different mods or just doing it the old fashion way |
| 22:58.23 | Nechckn | That's up to them |
| 22:58.29 | RockSlice | in the dropdown menu on the left, go to Searchers - Resale |
| 22:58.32 | Nechckn | we cannot make everyone happy |
| 22:58.37 | TheFool | Is there a new folder to put Auctioneer data into? |
| 22:58.47 | TheFool | When I put it in the Interface/Addons folder, it doesn't seem to work |
| 22:58.56 | Nechckn | Wait.. |
| 22:59.07 | Nechckn | http://Wiki.Norganna.Org/Installing |
| 22:59.11 | Nechckn | follow those directions |
| 22:59.27 | ZealotOnAStick | TheFool: you on vista? |
| 22:59.31 | RockSlice | lilymage_0017: then in the moneybox, put 20g |
| 23:00.02 | RockSlice | use the slider right below that to set the % to 50% (which is should be at by default anyway) |
| 23:00.04 | TheFool | Yeah I am. |
| 23:00.05 | lilymage_0017 | let me check ,still logging now |
| 23:00.12 | TheFool | I installed it right but it's still telling me I'm using out of date addons |
| 23:00.33 | Nechckn | How is it telling you this? |
| 23:00.49 | TheFool | As a matter of fact, it says I'm still using AtlasLoot, and I completely deleted all those files and never reinstalled it. |
| 23:00.51 | Nechckn | Is there a notice saying "Out of Date" after any of the Auctiioneer items? |
| 23:00.53 | ZealotOnAStick | Look under Public/Games/World of Warcraft in stead |
| 23:01.05 | Nechckn | Yeah... this is the whole Vista thing |
| 23:01.19 | Nechckn | why did blizz try to move things, mid-upgrade |
| 23:01.20 | TheFool | Ah, you know what. |
| 23:01.25 | TheFool | I think it's all on my desktop now |
| 23:01.27 | TheFool | What the hell |
| 23:01.53 | TheFool | I think I figured it out, thanks guys |
| 23:02.13 | Nechckn | ok.. if there are issues after you are done. let us know |
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| 23:04.18 | lilymage_0017 | hi there, i accidentally quit |
| 23:04.46 | RockSlice | <@RockSlice> lilymage_0017: right-click the mag glass |
| 23:04.57 | RockSlice | <@RockSlice> in the dropdown menu on the left, go to Searchers - Resale |
| 23:05.11 | RockSlice | then in the moneybox, put 20g |
| 23:05.16 | RockSlice | use the slider right below that to set the % to 50% (which is should be at by default anyway) |
| 23:05.26 | RockSlice | and hit search |
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| 23:06.10 | lilymage_0017 | still logging, what is wrong with the game? |
| 23:06.26 | lilymage_0017 | i quit the game and re log on , and cant since then |
| 23:06.33 | RockSlice | are you on greymane server, by any chance? |
| 23:06.46 | Eskana | anvilmar same way |
| 23:06.59 | RockSlice | so all the realms are screwy? L( |
| 23:07.02 | RockSlice | :( |
| 23:07.25 | Nechckn | Yeah.. they all just were / are bouncing... |
| 23:07.26 | Eskana | not all but the realm status page isn't showing them down... |
| 23:07.33 | Nechckn | Most*** not all |
| 23:08.30 | lilymage_0017 | i am zuljin |
| 23:08.47 | lilymage_0017 | let me try another again |
| 23:08.52 | RockSlice | as the servers are down, I'll brb. need to start dinner |
| 23:09.00 | Nechckn | I'd give it a few minutes.. then try again. |
| 23:11.22 | alcaras | what server do you play on, RockSlice? |
| 23:11.38 | alcaras | Mal'Ganis just went boom splat |
| 23:13.15 | lilymage_0017 | still not working |
| 23:15.01 | lilymage_0017 | any server is on? |
| 23:16.33 | Aesir | Some are. Most are, according to: https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/realmstatus/ |
| 23:17.54 | lilymage_0017 | it shows online but u can t log on |
| 23:18.24 | lilymage_0017 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.38 | Aesir | The realm status page is not going to always be 100% accurate. I only showed it because normally you would see all servers up. |
| 23:19.19 | Aesir | Patience padawan. You know, I've logged in more than 100 times in two days. But I've not played yet. |
| 23:20.20 | lilymage_0017 | my friend told me server is down |
| 23:20.54 | Aesir | Trust your friends, Lilymage_0017. Always trust your friends. Unless they play both horde and alliance. Then you know they can't be trusted. :p |
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| 23:21.44 | joemed | hello. |
| 23:21.56 | joemed | can someone tell me what is "stock" for the interface folder? |
| 23:22.23 | joemed | I am trying to delete everything since I'm getting so many errors that I'm trying to start my interface folder over from scratch |
| 23:22.27 | Narlya | I have an anoying problem, usually, tooltips for an item show the auction data, and with the new auctionner suite i got nothing. |
| 23:22.47 | lilymage_0017 | me 2, |
| 23:24.40 | Nechckn | Narlya in the General options |
| 23:24.45 | lilymage_0017 | can anyone log on the server? |
| 23:24.51 | Nechckn | set that to load the scandata alway |
| 23:25.02 | Nechckn | woops.... to always load the scandata |
| 23:25.17 | Nechckn | that way, you will get Auc input to the tooltips from the moment you get in-game |
| 23:25.27 | Nechckn | rather then only after visiting the AH |
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| 23:30.51 | lilymage_0017 | finally i got on one server , |
| 23:35.48 | lilymage_0017 | ok, i am at ah now |
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| 23:38.46 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: 03RockSlice * r3621 10Auc-Util-SearchUI/ (FilterItemPrice.lua SearchMain.lua SearcherSnatch.lua): Adds ASER-116: callback now fully implemented in current modules |
| 23:39.18 | ^nbot | New Feature 03ASER-116 10RockSlice: Add callback to searcher/filter modules telling them to reload their settings06 (04Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-116 10RockSlice: implemented in r3621 |
| 23:39.50 | RockSlice | lilymage_0017: right-click the mag glass |
| 23:42.55 | lilymage_0017 | so i need to click search after i set up the conditions? not the mag glass? |
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| 23:43.34 | lilymage_0017 | then what the mag glass for ? realtime search , what is it searching? |
| 23:43.47 | RockSlice | Realtimesearch |
| 23:44.21 | RockSlice | that's for searching for bargains as you browse the AH |
| 23:44.49 | RockSlice | but it can refresh the first&last pages by itself |
| 23:44.57 | lilymage_0017 | u have the tooltip clicked, why did the item still not show how many times its been sold and priCE? is it coz i need more scan? |
| 23:45.22 | lilymage_0017 | yeah, i see it s automatically refreshing all the time |
| 23:45.56 | lilymage_0017 | so if i need certain setup, like 50G cheaper , i have to go to resale and set up and click search to get result? |
| 23:46.07 | Karmick | is there a known bug with gatherer not scrolling on the gathering report list? having issues where it wont update the display while trying to scroll |
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| 23:46.41 | RockSlice | lilymage_0017: right |
| 23:47.56 | amayain | Hey guys, question- i just upgraded my auctioneer and now it doesn't display the AH info (buyout, bid, etc..) when i hover over an item. Informant is loaded. Anyone got any ideas? |
| 23:48.57 | lilymage_0017 | when i click the linen cloth, it only shows buy price sell price, 48 hrs deposits: acution this time, no other info shows how many times it s been sold , and suggested price , where i can find those information? |
| 23:49.55 | RockSlice | amayain and lilymage_0017: in the AucAdv options for the stat modules, make sure they have tooltip data enabled |
| 23:50.06 | amayain | Thank you!!! |
| 23:51.28 | amayain | ok... noob question.... how do i get to those options? =( |
| 23:52.22 | RockSlice | click the configure button at AH, or the coin stack on slidebar |
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| 23:54.01 | amayain | Thanks again! |
| 23:54.13 | lilymage_0017 | i see a general option UNDER UI search, and the show tooltip is clicked, is this you mentioned? |
| 23:55.15 | RockSlice | lilymage_0017: no. you're in the SearchUI settings, you need to go into AucAdv's settings to enable stats in tooltips |
| 23:56.53 | lilymage_0017 | i did that too, now the linen cloth show 363 matches (300/3/60),with different color |
| 23:57.29 | lilymage_0017 | and with buy and sell price, so what price i should use to sell? |
| 23:58.10 | RockSlice | lilymage_0017: my recommendation is to trust the marketprice to start with, which will be the default price in Appraiser |
| 23:58.14 | ^nbot | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:59.13 | lilymage_0017 | what that 363 matches for? |
| 23:59.33 | RockSlice | that's what's currently at auction |
