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| 01:13.59 | manacow | anyone in here? |
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| 01:14.35 | manacow | sup microft |
| 01:14.42 | Microft | Hello |
| 01:14.54 | manacow | wut u up to? |
| 01:15.00 | Microft | Wanted to see if there was anyone who can asnswer a few questions. |
| 01:15.10 | manacow | ask, i may be able to |
| 01:15.33 | Microft | I use Auctioneer right now to make posting items in the Auction House easier. |
| 01:15.46 | manacow | uhuh |
| 01:16.01 | Microft | I know there is a lot of functionality in it, like automatically cancelling auctions with key combos... |
| 01:16.09 | manacow | mmhm |
| 01:16.20 | Microft | I have very specific searches I do, is there a way to save those? |
| 01:16.43 | manacow | specific searches how? |
| 01:16.51 | Microft | For example: Level 41-45, Uncommon, Weapons only. |
| 01:17.11 | manacow | and what do u mean by save them? |
| 01:17.33 | Microft | Basically so I dont have to enter all the info for that specific search again. |
| 01:17.42 | manacow | hmm.. |
| 01:18.13 | manacow | no i dont think so.. |
| 01:18.19 | Microft | I do 6 searches like this with specific criteria. Im used to doing them so im kinda fast, but having them saved would make it faster! |
| 01:18.38 | manacow | there is something tho |
| 01:18.51 | manacow | u can tell it "scan weapons, trade goods, etc." |
| 01:19.06 | manacow | but i dont think thats what ur looking for |
| 01:19.12 | Microft | To update the suggested pricing lists? |
| 01:19.29 | Microft | Nope, just looking for more search feature automation. |
| 01:20.00 | manacow | btmscanner may have what ur looking for but i doubt auctioneer/aucadvanced does |
| 01:21.37 | Anaral | SearchUI will probably do a better job at what you want. |
| 01:22.21 | manacow | hmm i should get searchui |
| 01:22.23 | manacow | but i g2g |
| 01:22.47 | Anaral | searchui is in AucAdv |
| 01:23.14 | Anaral | It's the magnifying glass in the slidebar. |
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| 03:23.40 | ShaunO | hello, does auctioneer have an option to automatically scan the auction house every X amount of minutes? |
| 03:23.53 | ShaunO | auctioneer advanced |
| 03:26.07 | Anaral | Why would you want to scan it x amount of minutes? Plus even if you could, you'd have to be at an AH with the AH window open. |
| 03:26.39 | Anaral | Scanning it twice a day, maybe three, is enough for any fanatic. Once for the lazy. ;) |
| 03:27.08 | ShaunO | that's fine |
| 03:27.13 | ShaunO | its because im at work with a wow window |
| 03:27.21 | ShaunO | and i cant really play the game so i may as well do something useful :D |
| 03:27.33 | ShaunO | so i scan all day, dropbox the data to home and use the data :D |
| 03:28.07 | Anaral | lol, well then popping over to your wow and pressing the triangle isn't too time consuming. ;) |
| 03:28.36 | ShaunO | i know i know ;) but i was just curious if there was an auto scan :D |
| 03:29.08 | ShaunO | but at least i have wow going on my crappy work pc haha |
| 03:29.10 | Kinesia | There's BTMscan which tops you up with the last page repeatedly |
| 03:29.19 | Kinesia | or the new searchui does it too |
| 03:29.36 | Kinesia | So you do one normal scan then leave that running all the time to get the new stuff |
| 03:29.39 | ShaunO | oh yeah? i havent played with that |
| 03:30.08 | Anaral | There you go. It's annoying as heck if you're doing manual searches, but if you're just running it in the background, then it's quite handy |
| 03:30.29 | Kinesia | If you haven't used it before then try the Search UI, it's the magnifying glass on the auction screen. You want the "realtime search" option. will take a while to play with until you are happy properly but it should work ok |
| 03:30.58 | Anaral | You'll still need to scan to get the updated 'purchased' stat but if you don't use that or it's not too big of a deal, then there you go. |
| 03:31.56 | Kinesia | I usually scan once when I start, leave search running in the background while doing other things, then do a normal scan again before logging off a few hours later. covers most of the bases. |
| 03:32.19 | Anaral | *nods* |
| 03:32.40 | ShaunO | thanks guys realtime search seems to be running ok |
| 03:32.56 | Anaral | Well time for this Boomkin to cast hibernate on herself. Night night. |
| 03:33.02 | ShaunO | then i can just tab in and run the full scan every now and then |
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| 04:08.39 | ShaunO | i think ill have some very accurate data by the end of today :P |
| 04:14.56 | CIA-53 | auctioneer: 03ccox * r3419 10Informant/ (InfCommand.lua InfMain.lua Informant.toc): (INF-11 part the first) remove Khaos UI support |
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| 04:24.03 | Udub | Hi all |
| 04:28.12 | Udub | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:29.18 | ccox | yes? |
| 04:29.26 | ccox | do you have a question? |
| 04:29.30 | Udub | Yes |
| 04:32.29 | Udub | General addon question: I have a char on my bro's account, and I basically copied the accountname\savedvariables folder to the same folder for my bro's account for that char, now I switched realms with my account, this shouldn't have anything to do with it but it's the only thing that I know has changed since I last played the char on my bro's account, however now I play the char on my bro's account I see that all the addon settings have d |
| 04:33.39 | Udub | sorry to bother you with this general question, but my friends/guild don't seem to know the solution :( |
| 04:34.09 | Udub | also my bro doesn't play right now, he can't have changed anything since he's on travel |
| 04:44.08 | ccox | ok, that's a little convoluted |
| 04:44.36 | Udub | I also noticed bugsack got so many errors it decided to reset itself |
| 04:44.37 | ccox | if you copied the saved variables files for your account and toon, then you should have the same settings |
| 04:45.25 | ccox | drop bugsack, swatter does a better job of tracking errors |
| 04:45.26 | Udub | ok |
| 04:45.26 | ccox | (we don't do bugsack) |
| 04:45.26 | Udub | I use both but I guess one overrules the other |
| 04:45.26 | ccox | don't forget that there are per-toon settings, and per account settings |
| 04:46.52 | Udub | yes, I basically copied the accountname\savedvars folder to my bro's-accountname\savedvars folder and thats how everything was just perfect, I didn't do anything to the char for 2 weeks |
| 04:47.23 | Udub | the per-toon settings for this char and the per-account settings look perfect when I browse the folder |
| 04:47.42 | ccox | some of the settings are per-realm, per-toon |
| 04:48.19 | ccox | if you did copy the per-realm/per-toon settings, and the per-account settings - then the settings MUST be the same |
| 04:48.31 | ccox | Are you on Vista by any chance (where they have to store stuff in a different location)? |
| 04:48.33 | Udub | yes, I know what you mean, those I have browsed and they look ok, about the same as my main |
| 04:48.53 | Udub | yes I am on vista |
| 04:49.27 | Udub | and my wow folder is under C:\Wow |
| 04:49.36 | Udub | For the auto-updater |
| 04:50.39 | ccox | then I don't know what to tell you |
| 04:51.03 | ccox | the saved variable files define the addon variables - if you copied them all, then they have to come out the same |
| 04:51.12 | ccox | (assuming you checked for named profiles and such) |
| 04:52.45 | Udub | one thing though, on my own account, I made a char on the new realm I am on with the same name as the toon who has gone haywire on my bro's account, to reserve the name for a transfer later on |
| 04:53.01 | Udub | but I never even logged on with it |
| 04:53.19 | ccox | that shouldn't affect anything |
| 04:53.34 | ccox | if your old account and toon is messed up, then the settings files got messed up |
| 04:53.42 | ccox | I hope you made a backup copy |
| 04:54.27 | Udub | is this by chance, a form of file corruptioN? |
| 04:55.37 | ccox | no |
| 04:55.53 | ccox | unless something else on that system is corrupting files |
| 04:56.12 | ccox | most likely you moved instead of copied some of the files, or reset the settings while in WoW |
| 04:57.24 | Udub | when I transferred my mains to another realm, I did copy the per realm per toon settings but I never even touched the affected char |
| 04:57.39 | Udub | who stayed on the original realm |
| 04:58.04 | Udub | one thing also, ag_unitframes is the only thing that still has the right settings |
| 05:03.37 | ccox | I have no idea what you did... |
| 05:04.13 | ccox | but the only way to get the settings back is to copy the old files back to the old machine/account/realm/toons |
| 05:05.07 | Udub | ok, is it ok for me to ask an Auctioneer related question also? :-) |
| 05:05.11 | ccox | sure |
| 05:06.08 | Udub | I use full suite, and I scan both for Classic and Advanced (scan and play button) now I wondered what the Classic Data is used for these days |
| 05:06.17 | Udub | for what modules |
| 05:09.28 | ccox | Some modules (like Enchantrix) currently prefer the classic data, but can also use AucAdv data (and default to that if classic isn't running) |
| 05:09.45 | ccox | If you scan with classic, then AucAdv also picks up the scan data |
| 05:10.22 | ccox | but scanning with classic won't let you run btmscan while you scan |
| 05:11.38 | Udub | what I use is the new real time search feature, appraiser, BtmScan all those are Adv based then? |
| 05:13.42 | ccox | yes, those are all AucAdv based |
| 05:15.54 | Udub | Thank you :) I think Adv is more something for me then I thought I had more features with Full but I think I was wrong, it's more something to ease the passage right? |
| 05:16.06 | ccox | more or less, yes |
| 05:16.15 | ccox | try turning off Auctioneer and see if you miss any of it |
| 05:41.37 | manacow | hmm |
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| 06:34.31 | CIA-53 | auctioneer: 03ccox * r3420 10Informant/ (6 files): (INF-11) second part, implementing the UI - strings are still a bit rough, but I just reused what was there |
| 06:36.14 | ^nbot | Pollution 03auctioneer r3420 10ccox: Informant/InfSettings.lua has new global vars: InformantConfig at line 80; InformantConfig at line 86; InformantConfig at line 155 and InformantConfig at line 287 |
| 06:38.32 | ccox | ~lart nbot |
| 06:38.32 | purl | crushes nbot with a full height scsi disk |
| 06:38.40 | ccox | those aren't new stupid bot |
| 06:38.57 | ccox | it's a new file, but the global value is old |
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| 07:22.21 | Udub | I am giving real time search a try on another pc, it comes up with stuff it says to buy to Disenchant, however it would be a big lose to buy it to DE, the buyer is NIL, what is causing this? |
| 07:22.21 | CIA-53 | auctioneer: 03ccox * r3421 10Informant/InfSettings.lua: (INF-11) now with tooltips and some help text |
| 07:23.06 | ccox | the buyer is nil? hmm, that doesn't sound good. |
| 07:23.30 | ccox | Post about it on the forum, and include a screenshot with the values (preferably with the tooltip listing all the values) |
| 07:24.39 | Udub | Got this error now and it stopped scanning (was doing a real time search while scanning): Auc-Advanced-5.0.PRE.3342 (BillyGoat)\CoreAPI.lua:318: attempt to index a function value |
| 07:24.56 | Udub | ok will do |
| 07:25.10 | ccox | ouch, something is wrong there |
| 07:25.30 | ccox | please post that error (and the full swatter log for it) to the forum as well |
| 07:25.36 | Udub | ok |
| 07:25.59 | Udub | ow I mean the seller is NIL soz |
| 07:26.04 | Udub | *meant even |
| 07:33.01 | Udub | the swatter log I am unfamiliar with, how does one get the log? |
| 07:33.27 | ccox | open swatter, copy the text, paste it somewhere else |
| 07:33.43 | ccox | swatter should have shown you the error in the first place |
| 07:34.11 | Udub | Still have bugsack running, was repairing my alt remember :) |
| 07:34.33 | Udub | is it ok to post the bugsack one or is it useless? |
| 07:37.29 | Udub | (I don't know how to reach the swatter UI and /swatter doesn't get me anything) |
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| 07:41.34 | ccox | the bugsack one is a start |
| 07:43.54 | Udub | it's acting weird in general now, saying a lvl 18 axe would net me 350g if I DE it, tooltip says AucAdv DE information 350g, starting to think it is because I disabled Auctioneer and like you said Enchantrix relies upon it for a bit |
| 07:44.32 | Udub | ok I will post the bugsack one then |
| 07:45.52 | Udub | disenchant value baseline seems right but it seems to listen to disenchant value AucAdv |
| 07:52.00 | ccox | baseline is rarely right - those are fallback values, not values from auctioneer |
| 07:52.31 | ccox | baseline is what you get when nothing else is available.... |
| 07:54.12 | Udub | Anyway I am going to post this, a small glimmering shard for 350G isn't too normal |
| 07:54.45 | CIA-53 | auctioneer: 03ccox * r3422 10EnhTooltip/ConfigUI.lua: (fixes ETT-28, enables INF-16) fix default settings values in EnhTT that made the sideicon default to false, add code so the EnhTT icon can open informant options |
| 07:55.03 | ccox | no, it's a bug, or a sign that someone is poisoning prices |
| 07:56.31 | Udub | I think most likely a bug, since I got the error message and the NIL seller and a 350g worth glimmering shard, also stdev normally knows if something is going for way too high, right |
| 07:56.50 | Udub | or rather,still calculates the right price |
| 07:57.20 | ccox | no, it doesn't always |
| 07:57.30 | ccox | someone can also poison the prices |
| 07:57.34 | Udub | oh |
| 07:58.48 | Udub | yea idd could be, I did a search for small glimmering shard and they were all on 0% even though I recognize the actual value |
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| 18:09.12 | Udub | Hi all, I was wondering how to clear the stats for a poisoned disenchant reagent in enchantrix, /enchantrix clear ([ItemLink]) doesn't seem to work |
| 18:14.42 | RockSlice | enchantrix uses the auctioneer values |
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| 18:15.29 | RockSlice | so you'll want to do {/aadv clear <itemlink>} for the aucadv values, and {/auc clear <itemlink>} as well if you're also running classic |
| 18:15.38 | RockSlice | Udub: ^^^ |
| 18:15.46 | Udub | ty |
| 18:16.06 | Udub | this will come in handy more than once :) |
| 18:31.41 | Udub | RockSlice, is it normal after a clear and you do a search for the item you cleared the pct is still 0% while it should be 60-100%ish? |
| 18:32.50 | RockSlice | possibly. If the person doing the poisoning is still at it |
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| 18:33.37 | RockSlice | also if you've got bad data into the Histogram or Purchased stat modules (those didn't have the function working properly last build) |
| 18:34.39 | Udub | Alright, no sign of poisoning now though must be Hist., can't see how it can be Purchased :) |
| 18:35.15 | RockSlice | do you know the itemid of the mat in question? |
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| 18:37.35 | RockSlice | you'll want to do: /run AucAdvancedStatHistogramData[<realmkey>][<itemid>][0] = nil |
| 18:37.55 | RockSlice | where <realmkey> is eg: "Greymane-Horde" |
| 18:38.12 | RockSlice | if you're on the Horde side of the Greymane server |
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| 18:43.11 | Udub | Ty ill try that |
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| 20:58.13 | Bankie | Good afternoon everyone! I have a question on bottomscanner. Is there a way I could configure it to A) only scan Herbs B) buy any herb that is 103% or less of the market price? |
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| 21:03.53 | Hirsute | Bankie: start a scan for herbs before starting BTM |
| 21:04.06 | Hirsute | Or, rather, start BTM then do the scan for herbs |
| 21:04.33 | Hirsute | You can set it to suggest anything that is less than a certain level of Market Price, but every purchase requires a hardware event per Blizzard's code. |
| 21:04.38 | Bankie | Thought they disabled single category scanning? |
| 21:04.48 | Hirsute | Not that I'm aware of |
| 21:05.06 | Bankie | mmm let me go poke around. |
| 21:05.07 | Hirsute | But I'm checking to be sure. |
| 21:05.13 | Bankie | So I just set it to buy anything 1 copper under? |
| 21:06.39 | Hirsute | Let me take a look at the settings. |
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| 21:08.02 | Hirsute | You'd set your minimum profit settings, I believe. Having trouble opening the BTM config at the moment. |
| 21:08.12 | Hirsute | Using my wife's compy and it doesn't look like she's got it turned on. |
| 21:08.32 | Hirsute | And single-category scanning is definitely still available. |
| 21:08.35 | Bankie | Ok I set it at 1 copper profit. However as I'm scanning I'm seeing a lot that are 70-80% of market and BTM is not picking it up |
| 21:08.48 | RockSlice | to do a single-category scan (or a selection of categories) in AucAdv, use Ctrl-click to select the categories you want |
| 21:09.12 | Hirsute | You'll want to make sure your reserve is set so that you have enough money to buy things as well. |
| 21:10.03 | Hirsute | I *think* the min discount should be set at what percentage of the evaluator value you want to look for, so if you want anything that's 1% under market, I think you'd set that slider to 99% |
| 21:10.21 | Hirsute | Though I'd need to check that to be certain. |
| 21:10.49 | Hirsute | I generally use the SearchUI or RTS, so I'm always a little sketchy with BTM |
| 21:11.35 | Bankie | I just checked, it's still not picking them up. |
| 21:11.59 | RockSlice | no, 1% min discount will pick up things 99% of market and lower |
| 21:12.32 | RockSlice | 99% min discount won't find much of anything except the odd poisoned item |
| 21:12.52 | Hirsute | Aaah, I got it backwards, thanks rock |
| 21:13.37 | Bankie | I found it. I changed my profile for this paticular scan, and had my maxium price set too low |
| 21:13.41 | Bankie | ALways the simple things :) |
| 21:14.35 | RockSlice | SearchUI will let you put debug lines in the tooltip for the auctions, so it's much easier to see why something isn't triggering |
| 21:15.38 | Bankie | Now is there a way to scan two profiles at once? My normal one, and my herbalism one (The one I want to buy everything) or do I have to scan twice? |
| 21:17.06 | RockSlice | if they're separate searchers/evaluators, yes, but that would take some file editing |
| 21:17.45 | RockSlice | easiest in your situation would probably to copy the resale searcher and edit it to look for just what you want |
| 21:18.06 | Bankie | I'll just do my two scans. The herbalism one is easy enough |
| 21:18.12 | Bankie | getting ready for 3.0 |
| 21:20.48 | Bankie | I'm going through the menus. What's the difference between top and bottom scan? |
| 21:22.37 | Hirsute | One scans the first page (Top Scan) the other scans only the last page (bottom scan). If you turn on BTM then do a full scan it will scan every page. |
| 21:22.44 | RockSlice | bottom refreshes the last page, which is the newest auctions |
| 21:23.10 | RockSlice | top refreshes the first page, which is auctions posted at 48h, about to expire - great for bid sniping |
| 21:24.28 | Bankie | both good |
| 21:24.41 | Bankie | I like bottom... easier to find foolish sellers |
| 21:25.40 | RockSlice | yeah, though you get some amazing deals with topscanning. Also some fun bid battles if two people on the same server are topscanning |
| 21:26.00 | Bankie | Almost might have to multibox :) |
| 21:26.56 | Bankie | What are you trading now anyways? I have 10 sixteen slot bags, 2 full banks, and 2 guild bank tabs full of herbs |
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| 21:35.46 | CIA-53 | auctioneer: 03RockSlice * r3423 10Auc-Advanced/CoreBuy.lua: |
| 21:35.46 | CIA-53 | auctioneer: fixes ADV-302: CoreBuy's private.CurAuction table will now clear properly |
| 21:35.46 | CIA-53 | auctioneer: This bug manifested as CoreBuy suddenly refusing to search for anything until a reload. |
| 21:39.51 | Hirsute | I generally do enchanting mats. |
| 21:40.02 | Hirsute | safest way to turn a profit, as there's no deposit for them. |
| 21:40.28 | whizter | i'm sure there was a statistics mod for autioneer which added a new tab with informations like complete buyout prices, number of sold auctions/unsold auctions etc., does someone remember where I can find it? |
| 21:41.15 | Hirsute | You might be thinking about the Appraiser tab. With it's default UI and the sidebar open it should give most of that information, I think. |
| 21:41.16 | RockSlice | Auc-Util-BigPicture |
| 21:41.20 | Hirsute | Ah, there it is. |
| 21:43.04 | RockSlice | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=799 |
| 21:45.52 | whizter | thx RockSlice, this is exactly what i was searching for :) |
| 22:49.49 | Udub | hm, does anyone know how to get an item's id? with what addon? |
| 22:52.39 | RockSlice | on wowHead, find the item, and the URL will end with something like ?item=5178 |
| 22:52.44 | RockSlice | that 5178 is the itemid |
| 22:52.55 | RockSlice | (allakhazam/thottbot do the same thing) |
| 22:53.07 | Udub | Thanks again Rock :) |
| 22:57.31 | Udub | I entered this: /run AucAdvancedStatHistogramData[Shadowsong-Alliance][10978][0] = nil |
| 22:57.46 | Udub | but a bug/error followed |
| 22:58.00 | RockSlice | you need "" around the realmkey |
| 22:58.10 | Udub | ok, trying it now |
| 22:58.11 | RockSlice | ./run AucAdvancedStatHistogramData["Shadowsong-Alliance"][10978][0] = nil |
| 23:00.58 | Udub | still having incorrect pricing, could you show what I should substitute in the command for purchased |
| 23:02.39 | RockSlice | ./run AAStatPurchasedData.RealmData["Shadowsong"]["Alliance"]["stats"]["means"][10978] = nil |
| 23:07.08 | Udub | that ended in an error |
| 23:08.14 | Udub | nvm, now it doesn't |
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| 23:19.25 | Udub | hm I reseted with the aadv clear [itemlink] /auc clear [itemlink] with the command for histogram and purchased did a scan, then looked the item up with a search and still everything is at 0% |
| 23:20.16 | Udub | Sorry to bother with this, but I'd like to get the routine because I often have the poisoned prices prob |
| 23:37.33 | Udub | ./poke :P |
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