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| 04:33.18 | CIA-53 | auctioneer: 03ccox * r3418 10EnhTooltip/Tooltip.lua: (fixes ETT-31) comment out unnecessary debugging statements that someone left in EnhTT |
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| 05:17.31 | sohn | hi |
| 05:17.41 | sohn | any1? |
| 05:18.37 | sohn | any1 know how to get auctionner running on mac |
| 05:18.47 | sohn | i think the problem is the .exe file in it |
| 05:19.46 | kandoko | What exe file? |
| 05:20.07 | kandoko | sohn: ^ |
| 05:22.45 | kandoko | sohn: I don't believe any build we have made in the past year has had a exe file? Where did you get your auctioneer from? |
| 05:26.09 | kandoko | WoW addons run in lua and the operating system does not matter. |
| 05:26.17 | kandoko | Now on to your mac issue, there is a problem that the Mac program that unzips programs puts everything into a single folder in the interface/addons folder when it shouldn't. |
| 05:26.24 | kandoko | ~auctinstall |
| 05:26.25 | purl | If you are having trouble installing, try reading http://wiki.norganna.org/Installing |
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| 05:27.29 | kandoko | So if you follow that link, you will need to look inside the folder you extracted and move all the folders inside to the addons folder. Sort of like that screenshot in the wiki |
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| 05:33.34 | sohn | sorry kandoko i was afk |
| 05:34.24 | sohn | tyvm |
| 05:34.32 | kandoko | np |
| 05:34.32 | sohn | thank you very much i think i got it |
| 05:34.44 | sohn | do i need to re download? |
| 05:34.58 | kandoko | But I really am curious where the exe part of your question came from? |
| 05:35.38 | sohn | it was saying downloading a program and i confused with download from earlier i guess |
| 05:36.51 | sohn | trying again now |
| 05:38.08 | sohn | looks like its working thanks again |
| 05:38.45 | kandoko | yw :) |
| 05:38.51 | sohn | it auto scans the AH? |
| 05:38.59 | sohn | or do i have to activate? |
| 05:41.56 | sohn | how do i get it to scan the AH? |
| 05:42.02 | sohn | so i can get it current? |
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| 15:35.16 | Oonerspasmic | Heeeeeey |
| 15:35.42 | Oonerspasmic | Yeah,I have a question. :P |
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| 15:36.20 | RockSlice | ~asktoask |
| 15:36.20 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 15:36.39 | Oonerspasmic | Alrighty |
| 15:37.06 | Oonerspasmic | So, I downloaded Auctioneer again for the first time in a long time, and it came with about 15 different add-on folders. |
| 15:37.29 | Oonerspasmic | How many of these are actually needed to be used to get what the original Auctioneer was meant to do? |
| 15:37.47 | RockSlice | right, we've done a reworking of the structure of Auctioneer |
| 15:38.00 | Anaral | Which package did you get? AA Suite or Classic? |
| 15:38.05 | RockSlice | depends what you want to do |
| 15:38.29 | Oonerspasmic | I think it was the suite. :P I couldn't find Classic anywhere. |
| 15:39.00 | Oonerspasmic | What I want to do, is have it so I just basically have the tooltip showing the value, use, and such. |
| 15:39.26 | Oonerspasmic | Although, I want it to be able to gather values from the AUction House like it used to. |
| 15:39.40 | RockSlice | my recommendation is to disable the "Auctioneer" in the addon list, As that's actually AuctioneerClassic, which will be discontinued when Lich King comes out |
| 15:40.02 | Oonerspasmic | Okay |
| 15:40.09 | Oonerspasmic | That I have done now. |
| 15:40.10 | RockSlice | the interface will be quite different from how you remember it |
| 15:40.24 | Oonerspasmic | I figured it would take some getting used to. |
| 15:40.49 | Anaral | But once you learn to navigate it, you'll find it much easier to reliably post successful auctions. |
| 15:41.01 | RockSlice | When you log in, you'll notice a slidebar hiding under the minimap, on the right side of your screen. The coin icon opens up the AuctioneerAdvanced config screen |
| 15:41.28 | RockSlice | scanning is done with the "play" style button on the top of the AH |
| 15:41.44 | Oonerspasmic | Okay |
| 15:42.04 | RockSlice | in the config, you'll probably want to turn off a lot of the tooltip lines added by the different stats (the "Stat Module" section) |
| 15:42.29 | RockSlice | Posting is no longer done on the "auctions" tab, but from the "Appraiser" tab |
| 15:42.58 | RockSlice | and right-clicking the magnifying glass on the top of the AH will open up the searchUI |
| 15:43.16 | Oonerspasmic | Alright |
| 15:43.18 | Oonerspasmic | Hmm |
| 15:43.20 | Oonerspasmic | One question |
| 15:43.28 | Oonerspasmic | Oh. Nevermind. |
| 15:43.41 | Oonerspasmic | I disabled an one of the add-ons and it changed it quite a bit, so nevermind. |
| 15:44.00 | Oonerspasmic | Actually, I'll have to ask it. :P |
| 15:44.17 | Oonerspasmic | Alright, I logged in and had that little bar of buttons up under my mini-map. |
| 15:44.36 | Oonerspasmic | They all disappeared about 10 seconds later and haven't come back since. |
| 15:45.01 | Oonerspasmic | How might I go about getting them back? |
| 15:45.08 | RockSlice | run your mouse along the right side of the screen. there's a semi-transparent yellow tab sticking out |
| 15:45.21 | RockSlice | when you mouse over that tab, the bar will reappear |
| 15:45.41 | Oonerspasmic | Ah, got it. |
| 15:45.54 | Oonerspasmic | It'd be easier to see if I were playing in fullscreen mode. |
| 15:46.40 | Oonerspasmic | Hmm |
| 15:46.59 | Oonerspasmic | Would disabling the "Always use global price not server price" be a good idea? |
| 15:47.13 | Oonerspasmic | I'm thinking so just because of any inflation going on. |
| 15:47.16 | RockSlice | That's a WoWEcon thing |
| 15:47.30 | Oonerspasmic | Ah, okay. |
| 15:48.00 | RockSlice | If you don't have WoWEcon installed, the Auc-Stat-WoWEcon won't do anything. It's there for compatibility |
| 15:48.23 | Oonerspasmic | Okay |
| 15:48.26 | Oonerspasmic | Makes sense. |
| 15:48.30 | RockSlice | though my feeling is that due to the extreme differences between different server economies, "global" prices are a bad idea |
| 15:48.53 | Oonerspasmic | That's exactly what I was thinking. |
| 15:49.19 | Oonerspasmic | Hmm, does Auctioneer still scan the AH when you go and give you the average price of an item on the AH in the tooltip? |
| 15:49.23 | Oonerspasmic | I believe it used to. |
| 15:49.25 | Oonerspasmic | Bad memory. |
| 15:49.26 | Oonerspasmic | :P |
| 15:50.25 | RockSlice | it does, sort of. Each of the stat modules gather slightly different data, and calculate prices slightly differently |
| 15:50.37 | RockSlice | those prices are then combined into a "market" price |
| 15:51.05 | Oonerspasmic | Ah, okay. |
| 15:51.14 | RockSlice | if you go to the Appraiser options, you can choose to "show appraisal in tooltip" |
| 15:51.32 | Oonerspasmic | Oooh. |
| 15:51.51 | Oonerspasmic | Hmm, Auto-Sell Config. |
| 15:51.52 | RockSlice | that will be the price appraiser will post at (usually market, unless you've chosen to use something else) |
| 15:51.56 | Oonerspasmic | Okay |
| 15:52.28 | Oonerspasmic | With the Auto-Sell Config, does that mean it automatically sells an item without you putting it up? |
| 15:52.35 | Oonerspasmic | So many new things in Auctioneer. xD |
| 15:53.00 | RockSlice | no, it control auto-vendoring items (usually grey items, or items bought for vendor profit) |
| 15:53.06 | Oonerspasmic | Ooooh |
| 15:54.08 | Oonerspasmic | My assumption (without using it) is that Beancounter tracks auctions you have put up before and saves values and such. |
| 15:54.13 | Oonerspasmic | Would I be correct? |
| 15:54.26 | RockSlice | yes. it tracks all AH transactions |
| 15:54.36 | Oonerspasmic | Okay |
| 15:55.15 | RockSlice | Auc-Stat-Sales then uses that info to suggest a price based on what you've managed to sell the item for in the past |
| 15:55.31 | Oonerspasmic | Oooh, okay. |
| 16:00.35 | Oonerspasmic | Hmm, I'm just curious as to why just about every item's "suggestion" is to sell to a vendor. |
| 16:00.45 | Oonerspasmic | Even blues and purples. |
| 16:00.55 | RockSlice | because you don't have any price data on them yet |
| 16:01.30 | Oonerspasmic | Okay |
| 16:01.35 | Oonerspasmic | I figured that was it. |
| 16:02.16 | RockSlice | you'll need a week or so of regular scans to get a reliable base for prices |
| 16:02.23 | Oonerspasmic | Okay |
| 16:02.43 | Oonerspasmic | And....I am now scanning. |
| 16:02.47 | Oonerspasmic | Let's see what it comes up with. |
| 16:03.10 | Oonerspasmic | Estimated time left is much longer than it used to be. |
| 16:03.17 | RockSlice | you'll also like that we no longer have 40+ minute scans :) |
| 16:03.25 | Oonerspasmic | xD |
| 16:03.41 | Oonerspasmic | It shows the Estimated as longer than it used to, but it's also going quicker. |
| 16:03.59 | RockSlice | the first few dozen pages take longer than the rest, as the client fills in the cache for seller names |
| 16:04.05 | Oonerspasmic | Oooh, okay. |
| 16:04.29 | Oonerspasmic | It started off at .5 auctions per second and now it's up to 2. |
| 16:04.32 | Oonerspasmic | So I see what you mean. |
| 16:04.40 | Oonerspasmic | Still going up too. |
| 16:04.41 | Oonerspasmic | :P |
| 16:04.42 | RockSlice | once the cache is full, it should scan at slightly better than a page a second |
| 16:04.48 | Oonerspasmic | Okay |
| 16:05.04 | RockSlice | unfortunately, the cache resets every relog :( |
| 16:05.11 | Oonerspasmic | Awww. |
| 16:05.15 | Oonerspasmic | Well, that's life. |
| 16:05.31 | Oonerspasmic | If it didn't reset, it could cause some problems with the add-on, could it not? |
| 16:05.53 | RockSlice | it's a client-side thing, so we don't have any control over it |
| 16:06.02 | Oonerspasmic | Okay |
| 16:06.08 | RockSlice | the problems it would cause are when people change names |
| 16:06.22 | RockSlice | sometimes to prevent harassment |
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| 16:06.48 | asda | hi |
| 16:06.55 | asda | anyone here ? |
| 16:06.58 | Oonerspasmic | Hello |
| 16:07.10 | asda | i have a Questin |
| 16:07.17 | Oonerspasmic | Go ahead and ask it. :D |
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| 16:07.37 | asda | I search Aucioneer for german |
| 16:08.44 | asda | where can i download this ? |
| 16:08.56 | RockSlice | AuctioneerClassic is localized, but AuctioneerAdvanced isn't yet. Localization for AucAdvanced is planned for 5.1 |
| 16:10.31 | asda | is german version only in 5.1 ? sry my english is not good |
| 16:10.35 | Oonerspasmic | Alright, my scan is taking a while due to the massive amount of auctions, so I'll be back in a few minutes. |
| 16:11.07 | RockSlice | asda: yes. |
| 16:11.24 | asda | OK thanks |
| 16:11.42 | asda | cu and have an nice day |
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| 16:26.19 | Oonerspasmic | My scan is going fairly slow compared to what you said, Rock. |
| 16:26.20 | Oonerspasmic | :P |
| 16:26.52 | Oonerspasmic | I don't mind, but it's going 7 auctions per second. |
| 16:26.56 | Oonerspasmic | Basically capped out there. |
| 16:27.04 | Oonerspasmic | I shall wait longer. :) |
| 16:41.24 | Oonerspasmic | Hmmm |
| 16:41.34 | Oonerspasmic | I have to wait until the very end for the tooltips to update, right? |
| 16:41.38 | Oonerspasmic | I mean the very end of the scan. |
| 16:41.42 | RockSlice | right |
| 16:41.48 | Oonerspasmic | ALright |
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| 17:00.47 | Oonerspasmic | I have a small problem. :P |
| 17:00.56 | Oonerspasmic | The scan just froze. |
| 17:06.00 | Oonerspasmic | Ah, it froze but it also finished. |
| 17:06.07 | Oonerspasmic | I guess it just didn't visually do anything. |
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| 17:14.22 | Loz | yp guys |
| 17:14.23 | Loz | yo |
| 17:14.46 | Loz | is there a away to get all the gatherer points all ready done on the map?! |
| 17:15.54 | ccox|sleep | and that was another presentation of "short attention span theatre" |
| 17:19.46 | Oonerspasmic | Huh? |
| 17:20.17 | Oonerspasmic | Alright, well, thanks for the help Rockslice. |
| 17:20.32 | Oonerspasmic | I am going to go now. |
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| 18:19.37 | Erikk_0000 | New here Can I ask a question? |
| 18:21.33 | Erikk_0000 | Moving my own Gatherer data from one computer to the next. I have moved the entirety of my C:\World of Warcraft folder including addons and my Gatherer node data does not move with it. Is there a file outside the WOW directory? |
| 18:22.18 | RockSlicer | nope. the addon is all in Interface\Addons, and the saved data is all in WTF |
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| 18:51.01 | Erikk_0000 | Is there a logical explanation why copying the whole wtf directory over did not bring the data with it? |
| 18:51.33 | RockSlicer | are you on vista? |
| 18:52.05 | Erikk_0000 | Actually this (donor computer) IS Vista. I wanted to upgrade to XP on this but I can't so I am upgrading computers to an XP machine |
| 18:52.22 | Erikk_0000 | Sense the sarcasm about upgrading to XP? |
| 18:52.59 | RockSlicer | but the vista machine has it at C:\World of Warcraft , not C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft ? |
| 18:53.46 | Erikk_0000 | Vista has it in the Program Files sub |
| 18:55.14 | RockSlicer | ouch. your data is actually in C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\VirtualStore then |
| 18:55.31 | RockSlicer | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14650 has more info on why |
| 19:00.17 | Erikk_0000 | Ahhhh |
| 19:01.15 | RockSlicer | leads to some really fun situations, like logging into your account when running wow as an administrator, and suddenly all your data's gone |
| 19:02.07 | Erikk_0000 | I have had this happen |
| 19:02.21 | Erikk_0000 | AppData must be a hiddden thing - I don't see it as a sub |
| 19:03.00 | RockSlicer | it is |
| 19:03.15 | Erikk_0000 | I forget how to allow me to view hidden files / directories |
| 19:03.47 | RockSlicer | tools-folder options-view |
| 19:05.19 | Erikk_0000 | I am not finding tools - |
| 19:05.30 | Erikk_0000 | by the way, thank you very very much for your time |
| 19:05.57 | RockSlicer | hit alt |
| 19:06.34 | Erikk_0000 | You are the man. |
| 19:07.18 | RockSlicer | it takes a bit to convince Vista that it can trust you |
| 19:09.15 | ccox | and it takes a lot more to convince me that I can trust Vista... |
| 19:09.41 | Erikk_0000 | omg ha ha ha ha |
| 19:10.14 | Erikk_0000 | To use this data, do I have to dump it to the C drive on the two computers I intend to use it on? |
| 19:10.47 | Erikk_0000 | I have this fantasy; of using a thumbdrive or at least an external HDD to play WOW on the two computers I am near all day. |
| 19:12.45 | RockSlicer | just move wow to a non-Program Files location (can be on external HDD), and there should be a WTF folder somewhere in the VirtualStore location that you want to copy to the new WoW folder |
| 19:13.51 | Erikk_0000 | As I play off the external HDD will my changes be saved to the HDD or to the C\ directory? |
| 19:14.11 | RockSlicer | they'll be saved to the folder that wow is running from |
| 19:14.40 | RockSlicer | the redirection in Vista's only because it doesn't let programs change anything in C:\Program Files\ |
| 19:14.56 | Erikk_0000 | I wish there was a way to thank you. |
| 19:15.03 | Erikk_0000 | well except to say thank you |
| 19:15.06 | Erikk_0000 | Thank you |
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