| 00:03.58 | zespri | RockSlice, http://up.norganna.org/index.php/vHENvn7/Auc-DE08.jpg |
| 00:08.11 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-250 10zespri: DE Search UI doesn't always buy item when told to do so06* (Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-250 |
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| 00:14.07 | zespri | Roclslice, let me know if there is anything else I can do |
| 00:21.42 | RockSlice | grr. nothing there stopping it from buying |
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| 00:33.34 | zespri | RockSlice, you don't beleive in my theory that it has some thing to do with the of the items? Maybe it's easier to track it down by finding out why appriser / bean counter don't display it correctly? It can be totally unrealated, but maybe worht trying |
| 00:33.56 | zespri | Also, you might be able to reproduce this, doing the same thing that I'm doing |
| 00:34.31 | zespri | Try to by several "of the" items this way. I think it will happen, maybe not the first time bit pretty soon |
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| 00:42.34 | Nechckn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:44.12 | zespri_home | dc'ed |
| 00:44.35 | zespri_home | RockSlice repeat if you wrote anything last 20 minutes |
| 00:44.45 | zespri_home | (since my last message) |
| 00:44.47 | zespri_home | cheers |
| 00:45.26 | Nechckn | RockSlice did not, since the "gr. nothing there stopping it..." line |
| 00:45.32 | Nechckn | I asked... [20:42] <@Nechckn> Seems to buy things ok on Alleria... and that is one of the ones with the lag issues What server is this that you are on? |
| 00:46.13 | zespri_home | Caelsomething |
| 00:46.21 | zespri_home | it's an oceanic realm |
| 00:46.43 | zespri_home | the thing is it is never the issue via the standard buyout interface |
| 00:47.17 | zespri_home | but if an item bug's out via the search UI, then it's 100% repeatable, you can't ever buy it |
| 00:47.41 | Nechckn | very odd.. and this is with only the Auctioneer suite running? |
| 00:48.00 | zespri_home | yes |
| 00:50.02 | Nechckn | when you type /swat show that is empty? |
| 00:52.11 | zespri_home | I'll try. Could you please link back the Auc-DE07.jpg ? |
| 00:52.44 | zespri_home | and de08 |
| 00:52.52 | zespri_home | woops |
| 00:52.57 | zespri_home | I mean |
| 00:53.04 | zespri_home | Could you please link back the Auc-DE08.jpg ? |
| 00:53.06 | zespri_home | thanks |
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| 00:57.09 | Nechckn | http://up.norganna.org/index.php/vHENvn7/Auc-DE08.jpg |
| 00:58.26 | Kandok1 | zespri_home: The beancounter thing is probably unrelated, it looks like appraiser is sending the itemID:itemSig. And I never coded beancounters API to take that as input. So its treated as a text string search |
| 00:59.31 | Nechckn | dunno what 6 or 7 are- you didn't link them in |
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| 01:03.50 | zespri_home | Nechck, 6 and 7, yes I know, that's fine, I was just interested in 8, thanks |
| 01:05.38 | zespri_home | well my idea was that there is a function used throughout auctioner that convert id of an item to a name or something similar, and that this function bugs out on the "of the" items, if this function is used both in appriser and in the search UI that might be why |
| 01:05.57 | zespri_home | but if there is nothing like this in the Auc, then probably unrealted |
| 01:06.13 | zespri_home | you know the inside of Auc better |
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| 01:22.22 | murt | ne there |
| 01:23.08 | murt | hello |
| 01:24.44 | zespri_home | No error is swat |
| 01:25.11 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-250 10zespri: DE Search UI doesn't always buy item when told to do so06 (Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-250 |
| 01:40.06 | zespri_home | Ok another idea |
| 01:40.12 | zespri_home | scratch that |
| 01:40.33 | zespri_home | although... |
| 01:41.09 | zespri_home | what if PlaceAuctionBid requires the auction search to be in the same state until the bid is places |
| 01:41.34 | zespri_home | in Auc we call PlaceAuctionBid and then resume scan right away |
| 01:42.05 | zespri_home | what if we are not supposed to do this, and need to wait until bid is properly placed before resuning the scan |
| 01:42.09 | zespri_home | can this be the case? |
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| 01:44.51 | Rabbitbunny | So... is there a dev page that would show me the format Auctioneer stores data in? |
| 01:45.14 | Rabbitbunny | I want graphs similar to wowecon.com, in-game. |
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| 01:46.47 | zespri_home | Rabbitbunny, i think I saw something like this on the wiki |
| 01:46.55 | zespri_home | not sure of the exact link though |
| 01:47.14 | Nechckn | Wiki.Norganna.Org |
| 01:47.20 | Rabbitbunny | Thanks. |
| 01:47.29 | Nechckn | that's the repository for what information has been recorded to date |
| 01:47.48 | Nechckn | may not be all you are looking for, but, for now, that is what is available |
| 01:48.09 | zespri_home | my idea is wrong. commented out resuming the scan still see the issue |
| 01:48.10 | mattbnr | hey nikk |
| 01:48.12 | Rabbitbunny | Mkay, At least there is some, The addon I just got done working on had no comments. |
| 01:52.21 | Nechckn | waves at mattbnr |
| 02:13.20 | zespri_home | I think someone very clever/expirienced is needed to find out ehat PlacrAuctionBid doesn't place a bid sometimes |
| 02:13.26 | zespri_home | there must be a reason |
| 02:13.59 | zespri_home | when it doesn't if I call /run PlaceAuctionBid(.....) manually after this the bid is placed ok |
| 02:14.30 | zespri_home | I would think that a hardware event got eaten somehow, but this is the first line in the even handler |
| 02:14.33 | zespri_home | hm... |
| 02:17.14 | norgjira | Improvement 03APPR-165 10Mikk: Speed up selecting items in appraiser by using index metamethods for the scrollsheet table06 (Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-165 |
| 02:45.05 | zespri_home | Ok, no, Nechckn, RockSlice, do you think this http://up.norganna.org/index.php/v0YYeNG/Auc-DE09.jpg can be of a relevance? |
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| 02:58.15 | RockSlice | zespri: that could definitely have relevance. what are the notices before the one you have selected? |
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| 03:04.51 | zespri | I'll try and found out, from memory it's repeating the same insignificant notice over and over again. Lol, I'll run out of gold with all this testing soon =) |
| 03:05.06 | zespri | *find |
| 03:07.32 | zespri | They are all "Overriding CanSendAuctionQuery() due to query being in progress" |
| 03:08.23 | RockSlice | I think I found the culprit. I reproduced it as soon as I enabled AucClassic. Classic doesn't let you bid on an item without an owner |
| 03:08.41 | Nechckn | evil classic, evil.... |
| 03:08.43 | zespri | Brilliant |
| 03:08.54 | zespri | Means we (you) can fix this now =) |
| 03:08.58 | Nechckn | any reason why you have that active? |
| 03:09.07 | zespri | Oh I'll tell you why |
| 03:09.38 | zespri | Becuase I use the wowinterface updater, and the latest release on wowinterface has classic bundled up with the AucAdv suite |
| 03:10.04 | zespri | the release prior to this, this wasn't the case |
| 03:10.06 | Nechckn | Yes... that is the "Full Suite" and? |
| 03:10.23 | RockSlice | you can still disable Classic in the addons menu |
| 03:10.27 | Nechckn | all you do is uncheck the Auctioneer entry in the main Addons manager |
| 03:10.28 | zespri | sure I can |
| 03:10.35 | zespri | never thought that I have to |
| 03:10.38 | zespri | =) |
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| 03:11.50 | Nechckn | Seeing as "Full" is the only version we put out to any external site, that is all that will be there- until the time we cease offering Classic- then, the externals will only have the Auctioneer Advanced Suite |
| 03:12.14 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-250 10zespri: DE Search UI doesn't always buy item when told to do so06 (Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-250 |
| 03:13.13 | zespri | so nechckn, why auctioner classic appeared in this bundle only the previous release and wasn't there beofre? just out of curiousity? When I saw this update for the first time, I decided that you added it there for a reason that it must reuse part of functionality or something... |
| 03:14.14 | zespri | And for now I think I *will* disable classic =) |
| 03:14.20 | Nechckn | It's because we stopped having multiple offering- just like the WoWInterface listing explains... |
| 03:15.31 | zespri | oh |
| 03:15.32 | zespri | thanks |
| 03:16.04 | zespri | obviosly didn't read the listing as used the updater only. thank you for clearing this up - makes sense now |
| 03:16.49 | zespri | So what are you going to do with this issue? Leave it alone because it's in the older release? |
| 03:17.14 | zespri | RockSlice, what owner means in this context? |
| 03:17.26 | Nechckn | It's something that could be quick to change- so it may get "fixed" |
| 03:17.31 | Nechckn | Owner of the Auction |
| 03:17.42 | zespri | how auction can have no owner? |
| 03:17.54 | Nechckn | the person who posted the Auction upon which you are bidding |
| 03:18.04 | Nechckn | easy- lag is the most common cause |
| 03:18.20 | zespri | hm.. ok |
| 03:18.26 | Nechckn | if you refresh a few times without doing anything else, they'll usually all get filled in |
| 03:18.51 | Nechckn | but, with the recent issues- who knows. Can only hope they fix whatever is wrong during maint. |
| 03:18.56 | zespri | Can you tell me something else |
| 03:19.05 | zespri | I'm getting you SV is nn% full |
| 03:19.10 | norgjira | Bug 03CLAS-81 10RockSlice: Classic doesn't let bids be placed in certain cases06* (Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/CLAS-81 |
| 03:19.13 | zespri | what am I suuposed to do with this? |
| 03:20.04 | mattbnr | it means the fiel which holds the item info (scan data) is getting full adn when it gets full it will clear its self out to amke room |
| 03:20.07 | mattbnr | file* |
| 03:20.09 | MentalPower | how high is nn? |
| 03:20.21 | zespri | So my "of the" theory was all wrong =) |
| 03:20.26 | zespri | MentalPower, 36% |
| 03:20.32 | MentalPower | you're fine |
| 03:20.49 | MentalPower | baiscally thats how full AC's SV file is |
| 03:20.58 | mattbnr | i cant wait to see a full scan once WoTLK comes out |
| 03:21.06 | mattbnr | it will go from 0% to liek 90% |
| 03:21.16 | MentalPower | I fathom AC will die at that point |
| 03:21.18 | zespri | 0% of what? |
| 03:21.20 | mattbnr | i do too |
| 03:21.34 | mattbnr | i do not see classic being able to handle the info |
| 03:22.21 | zespri | why is wotlk to overflow the AH? did TBC do? |
| 03:22.51 | mattbnr | no but as all the new items are added to the ah it will increase the file size. classic has a file size issue |
| 03:23.17 | mattbnr | once it gets to large it deletes the scan data |
| 03:23.25 | Nechckn | just more items... not to mention by then we will have Advanced out of the development stages |
| 03:23.33 | Nechckn | *hopefully* =) |
| 03:23.43 | zespri | so advanced doesn't have the same issue? |
| 03:23.53 | mattbnr | no it is competely different |
| 03:24.16 | mattbnr | it stores data differently |
| 03:24.27 | mattbnr | liek seperately not exactly sure but it works. |
| 03:24.42 | zespri | Nechckn, do you think I should log a separate issue regarding Appriaser/BeanCounter item codes? |
| 03:24.53 | Nechckn | each stat saves the informations seperately in Advanced |
| 03:25.00 | Nechckn | Classic is one big, unhappy file |
| 03:25.04 | mattbnr | yeah thats what i was trying to say :) |
| 03:26.06 | Nechckn | Sure, just cut out the first portion regarding the bidding- and include Kandok1's response above, please |
| 03:27.00 | zespri | Kandok1's response??? Must have missed that |
| 03:27.12 | zespri | where is it? |
| 03:27.35 | Nechckn | appraiser is sending the itemID:itemSig. And I never coded beancounters API to take that as input. So its treated as a text string search |
| 03:27.40 | Nechckn | that's the important part |
| 03:28.27 | Nechckn | add it as an Enhancement to.... APPR, if you would- to send properly formated queries to Beancounter |
| 03:28.58 | zespri | Nechckn, how come that it works for some items but not the others? |
| 03:31.02 | Nechckn | ./shrug- dunno off hand |
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| 03:32.16 | zespri | http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-166 |
| 03:34.54 | Nechckn | ^^ looks good zespri |
| 03:35.25 | mattbnr | who here uses a hunter |
| 03:35.43 | Nechckn | I just may have one... |
| 03:37.13 | norgjira | Bug 03CLAS-81 10RockSlice: Classic doesn't let bids be placed in certain cases06 (Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/CLAS-81 |
| 03:37.16 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-250 10zespri: DE Search UI doesn't always buy item when told to do so06 (Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-250 |
| 03:37.23 | norgjira | Improvement 03APPR-166 10zespri: Supporting sending properly formated queries to BeanCounter06 (Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-166 |
| 03:42.23 | RockSlice | i do. and a pally, and a mage, and a lock, and a priest,... |
| 03:43.00 | mattbnr | lol |
| 03:43.17 | mattbnr | well im trying to decide what spec to go for im level 53 and currently BM |
| 03:43.30 | mattbnr | wondering if marks would be better to go with i do only pve |
| 03:44.56 | CIA-39 | auctioneer: 03RockSlice * r3190 10Auctioneer/AucBidManager.lua: AucClassic will no longer interfere with bidding on auctions via the SearchUI (CLAS-81) |
| 03:47.42 | Nechckn | pve like solo pve or instances? |
| 03:50.08 | CIA-39 | auctioneer: 03RockSlice * r3191 10Auctioneer/AucBidManager.lua: Adds check for AucAdv before checking an AucAdv variable (CLAS-81) |
| 03:50.13 | mattbnr | solo |
| 03:50.18 | mattbnr | i barely do instances |
| 03:50.28 | mattbnr | mainly grind or small quests |
| 03:50.33 | Nechckn | solo... then do whatever you like- really. =) |
| 03:50.51 | RockSlice | I'd recommend beastmaster, as having a strong pet is very useful solo |
| 03:51.00 | mattbnr | well i want to kill fast witj no downtime(drinking bandage stuff liek this) |
| 03:51.03 | Nechckn | on my solo hunter I do darn survival |
| 03:51.11 | mattbnr | ok im bm so i guess ill stay that way |
| 03:51.16 | Nechckn | just because my other hunter goes as the raid needs him |
| 03:51.26 | RockSlice | zespri: the bidding issue should be fixed now |
| 03:51.39 | Nechckn | but.. yeah.. strong pet== good solo fun too =) |
| 03:52.23 | zespri | Nechckn, actually Kandol1's comment is not entirely correct, he might have forgotten something. The BeanCounter code tries to iterpret the search parameter as itemid first and as a name only if it fails to interpret it as itemId |
| 03:53.15 | zespri | So it looks it should be some fixing in BeanCounter rather then in Appraiser. But of course up to you guys =) |
| 03:56.14 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-250 10RockSlice: DE Search UI doesn't always buy item when told to do so06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-250 |
| 03:56.17 | norgjira | Bug 03CLAS-81 10RockSlice: Classic doesn't let bids be placed in certain cases06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/CLAS-81 |
| 04:12.12 | norgjira | Improvement 03APPR-166 10zespri: Supporting sending properly formated queries to BeanCounter06 (Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-166 |
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| 06:24.08 | I440r | ok so why does auc advanced appraiser tab NOT show my adamantite ore? |
| 06:25.03 | I440r | i have 18 stacks of adamantite and i cant sell it using the apraiser |
| 06:30.12 | I440r | yup, this is annoying. i just upgraded aadv to the 5.0 and i STILL cant see my ore in there |
| 06:31.23 | I440r | also. every time i go to create a new auction it defaults to 24 hours. how do i make it default to 48 hours |
| 06:33.15 | I440r | asrgh this is costing me money |
| 06:36.15 | I440r | i have 4 stacks of eternium bars and 14 stacks of adamantite in my bags. the appraiswer sees ONLY the bars |
| 06:36.23 | I440r | it will not see the ore |
| 06:36.49 | I440r | it was seeing the fel iron ore i had in there a minute ago but it is blind to adamantite |
| 06:36.49 | I440r | why? |
| 06:59.41 | Nechckn | You most likely hid it... click the wee Show Hidden checkbox at the top |
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| 07:02.16 | Nechckn | if you click on the "Configure" button at the top of the Appraiser frame, you can set up all of the Auctioneer Advanced options |
| 07:06.01 | Nechckn_AKF | within the options are such settings as the "default" time Note, if you ever auctioned the item in the past and set the time to 24, then it will use 24 until you set it to 48. Appraiser will then use 48 from then on. |
| 07:06.06 | Nechckn_AKF | best of luck |
| 07:06.13 | norgjira | Improvement 03ADV-251 10Hirsute: Move window protection to a module and add the option to protect only while scanning.06 (In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-251 |
| 07:17.50 | I440r | i know |
| 07:18.07 | I440r | i want all items i ever sell weater ive set them to 48 hours or not to be 48 hours |
| 07:18.19 | I440r | why is the DEFAULT not 48 hours? |
| 07:18.22 | I440r | thats what i as asking |
| 07:18.35 | I440r | as for "hidden" i might have but not deliberatel;y ill go check |
| 07:19.34 | I440r | ive found no config item to set the global default auc time to 48 |
| 07:22.34 | I440r | ok yes its hidden. how do i UN hide it? |
| 07:22.49 | I440r | i didnt hide it delib, this is my main source of income |
| 07:24.16 | I440r | ugh and i just found the default time item, i been in and out of that config so many times looking for taht lol |
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| 10:11.11 | Jak | hello got a queston bout gathere it doesnt seem to record any ideas whats wrong? |
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| 10:24.53 | RockSlice | do things record ingame, or do they disappear between sessions? |
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| 15:54.14 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-252 10quadling: ScanFinish does not actually Logout or Quit06* (Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-252 |
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| 16:42.13 | norgjira | Bug 03CLAS-54 10Hirsute: Protect-Window not fully functional anymore06 (Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/CLAS-54 |
| 16:42.17 | norgjira | Improvement 03ADV-251 10Hirsute: Move window protection to a module and add the option to protect only while scanning.06 (Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-251 |
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| 19:11.16 | TOMMY_0031 | can some one explain to me why gatherer isnt showing up on my map? |
| 19:11.48 | Anaral | How is it not showing? Do you mean the nodes on the minimap? |
| 19:11.57 | Anaral | Was it showing before? |
| 19:12.12 | Anaral | Or is this a new download for you? |
| 19:12.26 | RockSlice | noone can explain if you leave the channel |
| 19:12.57 | Anaral | Okay, I know people are impatient. But geez, not even 30 seconds? |
| 19:13.19 | Anaral | Either that, or he figured out he was the issue. |
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| 20:51.43 | dru | anyone here? |
| 20:59.03 | Kandoko | semi here |
| 20:59.11 | dru | I have a question that I was hoping you could answer |
| 20:59.17 | dru | or rather, anybody |
| 20:59.38 | dru | I've been looking on the forums (and had it favorited before i upgraded my computer and lost my favorites) |
| 21:00.14 | dru | but, I've just returned after several months off. I redownloaded the newest Auctioneer Full Suite off WoWinterface and I'd like to delete all my old data to rebuild anew |
| 21:00.48 | dru | I removed all the Auc-Stat*.lua files from my WTF/Acct/AcctName/SavedVariables folder but that hasn't done the trick |
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| 21:01.08 | Kandoko | What OS are you using? |
| 21:01.19 | Kandoko | Vista, XP, Mac, Liux? |
| 21:01.19 | dru | WinXP |
| 21:01.57 | Kandoko | removing the stat** will clear AucAdv data. Classics is stored on auctioneer.lua |
| 21:02.56 | Kandoko | * I guess I should ask what makes you think that clearing the stats didn't work? |
| 21:03.27 | dru | I logged completely out and back in and rested my mouse over an item. Still had old stats. Perhaps I'm wrong, but i was thinking it should say Never Seen At Auction in ToolTip |
| 21:03.51 | dru | Still shows Seen 33 Times |
| 21:05.04 | Kandoko | If you have classic enabled and didn't deleated its saved variable file that may be what your seeing. |
| 21:05.29 | dru | If i remove the saved variables file will all the information then be gone? |
| 21:05.53 | dru | and I'm to remove these files in the WTF/Acct/AcctName/SavedVariables folder right? since i know there's Saved Variables elsewhere too |
| 21:05.54 | Kandoko | One moment, were you completely loged out before deleting the files? |
| 21:05.58 | dru | Negative. |
| 21:06.13 | dru | Completely logged out after deleteing them, the logged back in |
| 21:06.18 | dru | *Deleting |
| 21:06.49 | Kandoko | Can't do that. Wow will just write the data you just deleted back. you have to exit forst. Then Delete the files |
| 21:07.08 | dru | Alright. Going to do that now. |
| 21:09.06 | dru | btw, while it's loading, the .lua files need to go, can the .lua.bak stay? |
| 21:09.31 | dru | "Never Seen At Auction" =o) |
| 21:11.08 | Kandoko | aye the baks are not really used on XP. so they can go or stay. Glad it worked for you |
| 21:11.27 | dru | Thank you much Kandoko. I appreciate it. |
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| 22:01.53 | zespri_work | morning |
| 22:02.36 | Anaral | Evening. :) |
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| 23:26.50 | theshadow | I actually have a question about the data schema in Auc-ScanData.lua |
| 23:27.30 | theshadow | specifically how the averages and deviations are stored and what each column means in the tuple |
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| 23:52.21 | RockSlice | theshadow: auc-scandata only contains information concerning the current ah snapshot. the historical price data is kept in the separate stats' files |
| 23:53.07 | RockSlice | as for what the values in the table mean, I'd suggest looking in Auc-Advanced\CoreConst.lua |
| 23:58.05 | theshadow | thanks :) |
| 23:59.52 | theshadow | RockSlice: define the snapshot for me. Is that basically what the AH looked like at the time of the scan? |
