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| 02:43.12 | norgjira | New Feature 03AUEB-1 10GhostfromTexas: Add ability to change "click modifier" key06 (In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/AUEB-1 |
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| 03:01.28 | Kandoko | Mike-N-Go: Are you still seeing the frame doubling in auc adv? |
| 03:21.13 | norgjira | Bug 03BCNT-165 10kandoko: We need to find a better way of getting the itemlink of a posted Auction. The current method is too imprecise06 (Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-165 |
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| 03:28.53 | CIA-47 | auctioneer: 03GhostfromTexas * r3138 10Auc-Util-EasyBuyout/EasyBuyout.lua: |
| 03:28.53 | CIA-47 | auctioneer: AUEB-1: Added new options to change the click-modifier key (Shift,Alt,Shift+Alt) to add with the right-click. |
| 03:28.53 | CIA-47 | auctioneer: Ctrl key can not be used due to the dressing room function of the AH |
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| 03:43.13 | norgjira | New Feature 03AUEB-1 10GhostfromTexas: Add ability to change "click modifier" key06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/AUEB-1 |
| 03:43.25 | GhostfromTexas | spam |
| 03:46.47 | CIA-47 | auctioneer: 03Kinesia * r3139 10Auc-Util-Appraiser/AprFrame.lua: APPR-156 Moves Only button to correct location in classic ui panel. |
| 03:54.15 | norgjira | New Feature 03AUEB-2 10GhostfromTexas: Incorporate EasyAuctionCancel - One-click auction cancel into mod06* (Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/AUEB-2 |
| 03:54.19 | norgjira | Bug 03APPR-156 10Kinesia: "Only" button in middle of wrong panel on Alternate UI layout06 (In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-156 |
| 03:54.25 | norgjira | New Feature 03AUEB-3 10GhostfromTexas: EasyBid - double-left click feature (if possible) to bid minimal on an auction06* (Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/AUEB-3 |
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| 10:00.28 | Trell_ | hi, I'm having a few problems with the latest build of auctioneer |
| 10:01.06 | Trell_ | it doesn't seem to be storing the right prices for stuff and working out the right auction prices with appraiser |
| 10:01.24 | Trell_ | especially with the 'refresh' button on the appraiser window |
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| 10:45.13 | Aiji | my saved variables files is taking up a total of over 15mb, it seems a bit much |
| 10:45.23 | Aiji | for auctioneer alone |
| 10:49.03 | Aiji | are you suppose to compact the data somehow or should you just throw it away and restart? |
| 10:50.28 | RockSlice | Aiji: we keep a lot of data. It does get compacted a bit, but there's only so much that can be done |
| 10:50.54 | RockSlice | Trell_: please elaborate |
| 10:52.17 | Aiji | It's not the memory usage in general that' the problem, it's the loading times. |
| 10:53.40 | RockSlice | we do what we can to optimize, but the fact remains that the nature of the addon requires large amounts of data, as well as large amounts of processing |
| 10:54.01 | RockSlice | this is not an addon friendly to low-spec computers |
| 10:54.44 | RockSlice | if needed, in Auc-Advanced, you can only load some of the stat modules, thus reducing your loading time |
| 10:58.13 | Aiji | I should've tried loading without auctioneer before I asked, it seemed turning it off didn't do much for my loading times, I got a pretty decent computer with raid0 for my wow folder as well so it should load just fine |
| 12:05.53 | Trell_ | for example, Rockslice: I can search for Nightseye (this is just an example) - and it will show a buyout of 46g (being the cheapest out of say, 10) |
| 12:06.10 | Trell_ | then when I switch to the Appraiser tab, it'll still be trying to post it for 52g |
| 12:06.37 | Trell_ | despite having price matching ticked. then I'll click refresh (in Appraiser) a few times and it'll still try and sell it for the same price |
| 12:06.44 | Trell_ | I'm using Market Value |
| 12:07.00 | Trell_ | and I scan twice daily, once in the morning, once at night - been doing that for about 3 months or so |
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| 13:54.20 | keith67 | anyone know how to clear the actioneer saved variables file mine is 85% full :-( |
| 13:58.25 | Kandoko | See Question 7 here. http://forums.norganna.org/discussion/3266/auctioneer-classic-and-auctioneer-405-support-faq/#Item_1 |
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| 13:59.07 | Kandoko | There's a few things you can do but one ist hits approx 100% it will reset and start over. Its just a lua limitation fro the classic database |
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| 14:17.05 | Trell_ | RockSlice; sorry I had a dc, I know it was a while ago, but did you see my messages? |
| 14:17.12 | Trell_ | about my Appraiser problems |
| 14:18.22 | RockSlice | what are your Match-Undercut settings? |
| 14:18.57 | Trell_ | 5%? |
| 14:19.02 | Trell_ | sec. I'm just logging in |
| 14:19.42 | Trell_ | ticked, enabled, maxu uner 20%, max over 5% |
| 14:19.46 | Trell_ | *under |
| 14:20.52 | RockSlice | can you show upload a screenshot of the Appraiser tab showing an item you believe improperly priced (including right-hand panel and tooltip) |
| 14:21.06 | RockSlice | up.norganna.org can be used for hosting |
| 14:21.11 | Trell_ | sure, let me get to a AH :P |
| 14:25.22 | Trell_ | hold on |
| 14:26.41 | Trell_ | up.norganna.org -> connection refused |
| 14:26.45 | Trell_ | i'll just host somehere |
| 14:26.50 | Trell_ | *somewhere else, 1 sec |
| 14:27.36 | Trell_ | http://www.roguewiki.com/WoWScrnShot_052608_152450.jpg |
| 14:27.42 | Trell_ | that should be what you're after |
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| 14:29.57 | RockSlice | are you using a build or the svn version? |
| 14:30.22 | Trell_ | im using this build: |
| 14:30.44 | Trell_ | AuctioneerAdvancedSuite-5.0.PRE.3117.zip |
| 14:31.53 | RockSlice | in your Interface\Addons folder, is there an Auc-Match-Undercut folder? |
| 14:33.02 | Trell_ | no >_< |
| 14:33.16 | Trell_ | ..World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\Auc-Advanced\Modules\Auc-Match-Undercut |
| 14:33.21 | RockSlice | that's a good thing, as it should be embedded |
| 14:33.25 | Trell_ | ah ok |
| 14:34.08 | Trell_ | Auc-Filter-Basic, Auc-ScanData, Auc-Stat-Classic, Auc-Stat-Purchased, Auc-Stat-Simple and Auc-Stat-StdDev are in my root addons folder though |
| 14:34.50 | RockSlice | In your appraiser settings, is rounding enabled? |
| 14:35.24 | Trell_ | Round starting bid, Round buyout value, both checked |
| 14:35.37 | Trell_ | drop down is set to stop value, and the sliders are at 0.00 |
| 14:35.50 | RockSlice | can you disable it, and see if that helps |
| 14:36.33 | Trell_ | nope, still at above the lowest priced gem |
| 14:36.58 | Trell_ | mm wait |
| 14:37.00 | RockSlice | well, if your max undercut is only 20%, you won't undercut that one |
| 14:37.09 | RockSlice | but you should go down a bit far |
| 14:37.12 | RockSlice | further |
| 14:37.21 | Trell_ | aha i see |
| 14:37.25 | Trell_ | yes, I just figured that out |
| 14:37.28 | RockSlice | there should be another setting for undercut |
| 14:37.29 | Trell_ | moved the slider further |
| 14:37.32 | Trell_ | and thats it sorted |
| 14:37.36 | Trell_ | sorry to have wasted your time ;) |
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| 17:18.10 | norgjira | Improvement 03APPR-134 10testleK: Streamline the selection of items06 (Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-134 |
| 17:18.13 | norgjira | New Feature 03ASER-15 10testleK: Change searcher API to allow specification of bid/buy06 (Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-15 |
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| 18:16.15 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-221 10testleK: Change Auc-Util-Example to reflect best-practices regarding lib and private table creation.06 (Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-221 |
| 18:16.19 | norgjira | Improvement 03APPR-143 10testleK: Onupdate calling GetOwnAuctionDetails uses too much cpu06 (Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-143 |
| 18:16.25 | norgjira | Improvement 03ADV-21 10testleK: Enhance AA to protect the AH window from accidental closure, as in AC06 (Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-21 |
| 18:16.32 | norgjira | Bug 03ASER-24 10testleK: Converter searcher needs switch from GetDepositAmount06 (Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASER-24 |
| 18:16.37 | norgjira | Bug 03APPR-144 10testleK: Stack size problematic when switching from an unstackable to a stackable item06 (Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-144 |
| 18:16.43 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-224 10testleK: CorePost is trying to get deposit costs for lootable items.06 (Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-224 |
| 18:16.49 | norgjira | Improvement 03BCNT-149 10testleK: Further reduce Beancounter data size06 (Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-149 |
| 18:16.56 | norgjira | New Feature 03ADV-234 10testleK: Add Mover to the build.conf06 (Closed/Duplicate) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-234 |
| 18:17.02 | norgjira | New Feature 03APPR-64 10testleK: Add an option to consider existing auctions in count06 (Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-64 |
| 18:17.08 | norgjira | Improvement 03ADV-232 10testleK: Modules calling deprecated functions should be identified06 (Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-232 |
| 18:17.14 | norgjira | Bug 03BCNT-162 10testleK: Beancounter throws attempt to index field 'AucModule' error if AucAdv is not present06 (Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-162 |
| 18:17.20 | norgjira | New Feature 03ADV-235 10testleK: EasyBuyout - An easier way to buyout auctions without having a confirmation box06 (Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-235 |
| 18:17.26 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-236 10testleK: Pollution auctioneer r313206 (Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-236 |
| 18:17.32 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-237 10testleK: Pollution auctioneer r3133 with EasyBuyout06 (Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-237 |
| 18:17.38 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-238 10testleK: Cannot left-click auctions in the browseframe due to EasyBuyout06 (Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-238 |
| 18:17.47 | testleK | wow your being way slow norgjira no snack for you |
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| 18:32.03 | Dischronal | Hi |
| 18:33.52 | testleK | hi |
| 19:16.24 | Dischronal | I was hoping I could get some help configuring my AdvAuctioneer |
| 19:17.56 | testleK | what do you need assistance in doing? :) |
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| 19:20.26 | Dischronal | I'm having trouble browsing with compact UI, while I'm looking at a search, it sometimes refreshes and erases the search |
| 19:20.45 | Dischronal | which is pretty annoying =D |
| 19:26.49 | Dischronal | Also, lets say I just want to browse purples, when i click on the column title to sort them by quality, i either get all the grays first, or, its like a random selection of items, with only a few purples, sorted by quality |
| 19:28.09 | Dischronal | I guess, an explaination of how the sorting/ color of the sorting thing on the top (orange/green) means |
| 19:29.29 | testleK | Do you have BTM on while manually searching and the page is being refreshed or whisked away to a different page? if so click BTM tab, Configure then disable 'refresh last page' |
| 19:29.55 | Dischronal | BTM meaning bottom scanner? |
| 19:29.58 | testleK | yes |
| 19:30.56 | testleK | its under the general options tab inside the btm config screen says "Enable Automatic last page reload (bottom scan)" |
| 19:31.09 | Dischronal | ahh thank you, that should do it, with that clicked off, i should probably double check and search for the item again after BTM points it out |
| 19:32.51 | testleK | not really sure about the sorting thing to be perfectly honest I haven't really sort by rarity |
| 19:34.39 | Dischronal | ahh, do you sort by %? |
| 19:35.02 | testleK | buy per mostly |
| 19:35.28 | Dischronal | ahh, I'm just trying to scan most things for good deals |
| 19:36.33 | RockSlice | MentalPower: Esamynn: when trying to go to Fisheye: |
| 19:36.37 | RockSlice | The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. |
| 19:36.37 | RockSlice | The proxy server could not handle the request GET /. |
| 19:36.37 | RockSlice | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:36.37 | RockSlice | Reason: Error reading from remote server |
| 19:36.37 | RockSlice | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:36.38 | RockSlice | Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS) Server at fisheye.norganna.org Port 80 |
| 19:36.55 | Dischronal | I just started playing with AdvAuct and i love all the statistics |
| 19:37.22 | RockSlice | sorry, wrong channel |
| 19:40.02 | Dischronal | anyone have some advice for an advAuct newbie? =D |
| 19:58.41 | Dischronal | How do most people configure their BTM? |
| 20:05.07 | Dischronal | I set the min profit to 20g in appraiser, but it suggests things with a profit less than 20g, is there another setting I must set? |
| 20:08.31 | testleK | if min profit in appraiser is set to 20g, and btm prompts for appraiser, you are seeing the profit 'above' the 20g or X% min setting |
| 20:09.37 | testleK | Everyones kinda different on that sort of think theres a thread somewhere on the forums 'how we make our gold' or something of that effect which is a long but good read for getting an idea how people have things set up |
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| 20:30.59 | Dischronal | ahhh ok, thanks =) |
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| 20:52.11 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-239 10RockSlice: New GetMarketValue function isn't returning a seen count06* (Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-239 |
| 21:15.12 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-239 10Nechckn: New GetMarketValue function isn't returning a seen count06 (Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-239 |
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| 22:46.15 | norgjira | Bug 03APPR-146 10testleK: AprFrame doesn't handle nil returns from GetDepositCost at all.06 (Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-146 |
| 22:46.19 | norgjira | Improvement 03ADV-227 10Shirik: Market price should be derived via more statistically accurate means06 (In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-227 |
| 22:46.25 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-239 10Shirik: New GetMarketValue function isn't returning a seen count06 (In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-239 |
| 22:46.31 | norgjira | Improvement 03BASC-11 10testleK: Changesfilters text in config to color match its rarity06 (Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BASC-11 |
| 22:46.37 | norgjira | Task 03AMOV-1 10testleK: Add Auc-Util-Mover to the Build.conf file.06 (Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/AMOV-1 |
| 22:46.40 | Shirik | omg every time I link something, norgjira spams all of the related tickets >< |
| 22:46.48 | mattbnr | yes yes it does |
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| 23:06.38 | CIA-47 | auctioneer: 03Shirik * r3140 10Auc-Advanced/CoreAPI.lua: |
| 23:06.38 | CIA-47 | auctioneer: Corrected an issue where AucAdvanced.API.GetMarketValue() was only returning its |
| 23:06.39 | CIA-47 | auctioneer: first return value, breaking backwards compatibility. Now correctly returns |
| 23:06.39 | CIA-47 | auctioneer: number of times seen and number of stat modules reporting. (ADV-239) |
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| 23:08.10 | Dischronal | are these automated bug reports, basically? |
| 23:08.18 | Shirik | hm? |
| 23:09.16 | norgjira | Bug 03ASAL-5 10testleK: Tooltip Error thrown if beancounter is disabled while auc-stat-sales is enabled06 (Closed/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ASAL-5 |
| 23:09.20 | norgjira | New Feature 03AUEB-2 10GhostfromTexas: Incorporate EasyCancel - One-click auction cancel into mod (Mikk)06 (Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/AUEB-2 |
| 23:09.23 | Shirik | like that? ^ |
| 23:09.24 | RockSlice | Dischronal: it's automated reports about what's happening in our system. CIA-47 is code changes, norgjira is issues |
| 23:10.04 | Shirik | Right, so that last one that said 14(1911:0611:2814) 14(11158CIA-4714) auctioneer: 03Shirik * r3140 10Auc-Advanced/CoreAPI.lua: was because I made a change which became revision number 3140 of Auctioneer |
| 23:10.11 | Dischronal | your system? as in, people working on the code in real time? |
| 23:10.19 | Shirik | right |
| 23:10.24 | Dischronal | cool |
| 23:10.27 | Shirik | I just made a change, so you saw it pop up right there |
| 23:11.58 | RockSlice | CIA-47 is almost realtime, norgjira does it in batches on a cycle |
| 23:12.38 | RockSlice | so those last two JIRA changes happened sometime between 18:47 and 19:09 |
| 23:15.10 | Dischronal | I just got advanced auctioneer and I really love all the statistics |
| 23:17.08 | CIA-47 | auctioneer: 03Shirik * r3141 10Auc-Advanced/CoreAPI.lua: Corrected an issue in GetMarketValue() where the cache was only returning the market value, instead of correctly the market value, seen count, and number of stats modules reporting. (ADV-239) |
| 23:25.24 | CIA-47 | auctioneer: 03testleK * r3142 10Auc-Util-AutoMagic/ (Auc-Util-AutoMagic.lua ConfirmSellUI.lua Core.lua Embed.xml): (AAMU-51) If AutoSell is going to sell something at the vendor it now opens a window showing you what it will sell. |
| 23:25.50 | Shirik | Dischronal: It's about to get even better :) |
| 23:26.20 | Dischronal | =D |
| 23:26.21 | Shirik | in theory the suggested market value should be more accurate in the near future |
| 23:26.40 | Dischronal | i'm guessing 'normalized' is the best one, |
| 23:26.57 | Shirik | It really depends on your definition of "best" |
| 23:27.09 | Dischronal | thats fair |
| 23:27.17 | Dischronal | best for a quick estimate |
| 23:27.20 | Dischronal | perhaps? |
| 23:27.22 | Shirik | the market value takes into consideration all engines and puts together their data |
| 23:27.24 | CIA-47 | auctioneer: 03testleK * r3143 10Auc-Util-AutoMagic/ConfirmSellUI.lua: (AAMU-51) sets props on new file |
| 23:27.27 | Dischronal | oh i see |
| 23:27.32 | Shirik | that's what many people consider to be the "best estimate" |
| 23:27.46 | Shirik | by default I don't think you can see that though, but you can turn it on |
| 23:28.02 | Dischronal | what are the main stat engines? |
| 23:28.23 | Shirik | if you go to the auctioneer configuration->util modules->appraiser->Show appraisal in tooltips |
| 23:29.52 | Dischronal | ahh, |
| 23:30.25 | Trell_ | appraiser is what I use |
| 23:30.36 | Trell_ | for estimates on everything from leather to epic gems :P |
| 23:30.46 | Dischronal | stat modules are classic, purchasd, sales, simple and stddev? that + appraiser in some weighted average is the sug market value? |
| 23:31.08 | Shirik | sorry, had a phonecall |
| 23:31.13 | Shirik | The 4 big ones are "Simple" "StdDev" "Purchased" and "Sales" - Simple just takes a running exponential average over 14 days |
| 23:31.22 | Shirik | StdDev performs some statistical analysis to determine pricing |
| 23:31.32 | Shirik | Purchased watches what you've bought and bases pricing off that |
| 23:31.42 | Shirik | Sales watches what appears to have been successfully sold and bases pricing off that |
| 23:32.16 | Dischronal | Successfully sold, for all auctions, or just your auctions? |
| 23:32.36 | Shirik | The market price (which appraiser uses, as an option) is a weighted average between all the stats modules. In the near future (what I'm working on right now) it will be a 50% integral sum over the probability density functions of all of the stats modules |
| 23:32.48 | Shirik | for all auctions |
| 23:33.17 | Dischronal | that is sweet |
| 23:34.21 | Dischronal | what do you mean by a 50% sum? |
| 23:34.57 | Dischronal | and does each stat module have equla weight? |
| 23:35.03 | mattbnr | so shirik what stat is the best to use? or most accurate i mean |
| 23:35.05 | Shirik | yes and no |
| 23:35.14 | norgjira | New Feature 03AAMU-51 10testleK: AAMU: Create a popup interface for first action on AutoSell for an item06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/AAMU-51 |
| 23:35.17 | norgjira | Improvement 03AAMU-52 10testleK: Improve AutoSell to start using our new ItemSuggest module06 (Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/AAMU-52 |
| 23:35.23 | norgjira | New Feature 03AAMU-81 10testleK: AAMU: Add ability to un-ignore an item from AutoSell06 (Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/AAMU-81 |
| 23:35.29 | norgjira | Task 03AAMU-58 10testleK: AAMU: Help file is sorely lacking and outdated06 (Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/AAMU-58 |
| 23:35.35 | norgjira | New Feature 03AAMU-31 10testleK: Add ability to 'ignore' items for AutoSell06 (Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/AAMU-31 |
| 23:35.35 | Shirik | mattbnr: That depends on your definition of "best." It all depends on what data is available. Many will argue that market price gives you the closest viable estimate |
| 23:35.40 | norgjira | Improvement 03AAMU-50 10testleK: AAMU: Convert AutoSell Config UI to advanced item configuration UI06 (Closed/Won't Fix) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/AAMU-50 |
| 23:35.45 | Shirik | + testleK with the spam |
| 23:35.47 | norgjira | Improvement 03AAMU-65 10testleK: Allow right click on the AutoMagic UI button to open teh configuration UI06 (Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/AAMU-65 |
| 23:35.52 | Shirik | what the hell did you do, lol |
| 23:35.52 | norgjira | New Feature 03AAMU-82 10testleK: AAMU: Implement the 'remove' function for AutoSell Confirmation UI06 (In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/AAMU-82 |
| 23:36.14 | Shirik | anyway.... |
| 23:36.44 | Shirik | In the new algorithm, yes, the modules all have equal weight. However.... that doesn't mean they all end up carrying the reported price with the same weight |
| 23:37.06 | Shirik | effectively what happens is each module reports how confident it is of the given price |
| 23:37.31 | Shirik | this then creates a "confidence interval" which are then combined across all modules |
| 23:38.08 | Shirik | the 50% point is where adding up all of the confidence intervals, we find 50% of the area to the left and 50% of the area to the right (indicating it is equally likely that the price is greater than or less than the given price |
| 23:38.23 | Shirik | all of this will be documented in the near future. It's still being worked on, so there isn't anything written up on it yet |
| 23:38.27 | Dischronal | ahhh cool |
| 23:38.49 | Shirik | Right now, however, all that happens between modules is a simple weighted average |
| 23:38.51 | Dischronal | you can rock the stats with me, I'm fairly familiar with statistics, |
| 23:39.02 | Shirik | oh good, then I can go into a bit more detail :P |
| 23:39.07 | Shirik | You know what a bell curve is |
| 23:39.09 | Shirik | right? |
| 23:39.14 | Dischronal | gaussian baby yeah |
| 23:39.33 | mattbnr | i like to use what ever stat is the most accurate as far as telling me what a item is worth. i use std dev right now |
| 23:39.41 | Shirik | most modules follow that curve (purchased and sales are excepted). I integrate the entire bell curve across all modules |
| 23:39.45 | Shirik | then add them all together |
| 23:40.02 | Shirik | Then I look for the point at which 50% is to the left and 50% is to the right, indicating the reported market price |
| 23:40.25 | Shirik | thus the standard deviation increasing for a given module will, in effect, cause that module to have less "weight" when they are combined together |
| 23:40.42 | mattbnr | ...... you lost me at bell curve lol |
| 23:40.45 | Shirik | because it has a lower peak and is spread out over a larger width |
| 23:42.57 | testleK | ~norgjira snack |
| 23:43.03 | Dischronal | by integrate the bell curve across each module, do you mean calculate the mean and standard deviation for that module, or, calculate the mean/standard deviation, then weight all the data points with that bell curve to get an average? |
| 23:43.27 | testleK | sry for all the spam was re-arranging my project and adding / finishing up some odds and ends |
| 23:43.40 | Shirik | integrate: Find the area under the curve. Do you know calculus? I do find the mean and the standard deviation, then I calculate the area under the bell curve (which should always be 1) |
| 23:43.57 | Shirik | then I add all of the bell curves together, and find the point at which 50% of the area is to the left, and 50% of the area is to the right |
| 23:44.04 | Dischronal | yes i know most calc |
| 23:44.37 | Dischronal | ok i think i'm starting to follow now |
| 23:44.57 | Shirik | it will make more sense when I have diagrams, etc., to explain it |
| 23:45.08 | Shirik | it'll be posted on the forums or somewhere when it's pushed live |
| 23:45.15 | Dischronal | yeah, math through text is tough |
| 23:45.31 | Shirik | anyway, I have to switch houses |
| 23:45.33 | Shirik | I shall return! |
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| 23:46.14 | Dischronal | bye! |
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