| 00:00.16 | bleeter | yup, until there's a big 'Final Release' style news announcement on the front page |
| 00:01.18 | Bernie_0094 | ok...let me try it and I will get back with you if I have any problems |
| 00:01.35 | bleeter | I may not be ... |
| 00:01.38 | bleeter | sighs |
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| 03:53.49 | bry287 | Hello |
| 03:55.12 | bry287 | Question: A guild member has gatherer, and it continually puts messages in guild chat that state where they are gathering, and a bunch of random information and numbers. He cannot find how to turn it off, nor can I. Any help? |
| 04:02.02 | Nechckn_SomeZs | There is a setting in the options, they have it turned on to send their gathered items to the rest of the guild |
| 04:02.49 | Nechckn_SomeZs | If anyone other than them are seeing the messages, the other folks have an addon that is redirecting the private Addon comms channel to the usual Guild channel |
| 04:04.25 | bry287 | I see. Thank you |
| 04:07.44 | Nechckn_SomeZs | yeah, some of the raid addons have a nasty idea where they shunt the, usually hidden, Addon channel to the visible raid chat channel |
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| 04:14.37 | tope | Hi, is anyone on who has a sec to help me out with an error i got when trying to download the new auctioneer full suite?? |
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| 04:15.27 | tope | oops got disconnected |
| 04:15.41 | Nechckn_SomeZs | what is the error |
| 04:15.54 | tope | do you want the number's and letters? |
| 04:16.12 | Nechckn_SomeZs | norganna.pastey.net |
| 04:16.13 | tope | it's an unspecified error |
| 04:16.45 | tope | 0x80004005 |
| 04:16.53 | Shirik | uh |
| 04:17.00 | Shirik | fatal exception 80004005? |
| 04:17.03 | tope | :/ |
| 04:17.07 | Nechckn_SomeZs | that's not from us.. that's the game client |
| 04:17.32 | tope | no just says unspecified error, asks me if i want to skip that file or stop |
| 04:17.37 | Shirik | that's not unspecified |
| 04:17.42 | Shirik | that's a windows system error code |
| 04:18.22 | Shirik | lua> "test" |
| 04:18.23 | lua_bot | Shirik: test |
| 04:18.25 | tope | it was moving 455 items from auct to the addons folder and it asked me if i want to stop or skip that file and keep going |
| 04:18.40 | Shirik | lua> tonumber("80004005", 16) |
| 04:18.40 | lua_bot | Shirik: 2147500037 |
| 04:18.57 | tope | ? |
| 04:19.13 | tope | sorry im computer illiterate : |
| 04:19.19 | tope | lol |
| 04:19.38 | Shirik | lua> tonumber("4005", 16) |
| 04:19.38 | lua_bot | Shirik: 16389 |
| 04:19.40 | Nechckn_SomeZs | why were you moving anything- was this while you were trying to install? |
| 04:20.04 | Shirik | I don't know what that error code is, but it's certainly not from Lua |
| 04:20.48 | tope | while i was installing the files where moving from the well first i unziped them then cut them from the zipper and put them in addons so when they were going into the addons folder |
| 04:21.19 | tope | were* |
| 04:21.31 | Shirik | lol, I looked it up in Visual Studio and it just says "unspecified error" |
| 04:21.34 | Nechckn_SomeZs | ok.. yeah, that is actually your system having issues and, unfortrunately, really doesn't have anything to do with Auctioneer |
| 04:21.46 | Shirik | that's the actual error code |
| 04:21.53 | Nechckn_SomeZs | Microsoft is so very helpful some times |
| 04:21.59 | Shirik | not just that it doesn't exist, but that 0x80004005 means "unspecified error" |
| 04:22.07 | Shirik | OH! |
| 04:22.09 | Nechckn_SomeZs | Did you try to reinstall Tope? |
| 04:22.15 | Shirik | I think this is the .NET error code |
| 04:22.21 | tope | no |
| 04:22.26 | Shirik | why would this have to do with .net |
| 04:22.59 | tope | the only thing i have open is your downloads page and the addon page |
| 04:23.03 | Nechckn_SomeZs | Shirik who knows, they likely tangled it in somehow... maybe the built in compressor? |
| 04:23.09 | tope | the only thing i use this computer for is wow |
| 04:23.14 | Shirik | in any case, it's definitely a system error. Your event viewer should give you more details |
| 04:23.28 | tope | i dont' know what that means |
| 04:23.37 | Shirik | start->control panel -> administrative tools -> event viewer -> application error log |
| 04:23.47 | Nechckn_SomeZs | Your computer, itself, is having trouble... not WoW or any addon |
| 04:24.35 | Nechckn_SomeZs | the operating system, the thing that makes it a computer and not a rock, encountered an error... it could mean a hundred different things, really. |
| 04:25.05 | Nechckn_SomeZs | head to where Shirik said and see what the latest entry in your computer's application log says |
| 04:25.08 | tope | that doens't make any sense to me, why would it stop transfering the files from one the zip to the addon folder if it's just my system, it didnt' stop any other function on my computer except the transfer of thos folders |
| 04:25.24 | Shirik | tope, the error quite literally means "unspecified error" |
| 04:25.26 | tope | ok one sec |
| 04:25.40 | tope | ok brb |
| 04:25.42 | Shirik | it's very possible that it is being stopped and reverted due to an inconsistency being detected that could potentially corrupt your entire system |
| 04:25.49 | Shirik | who knows |
| 04:25.55 | tope | oh great |
| 04:26.03 | tope | well hold on |
| 04:26.05 | Shirik | that's only one of a million possibilities |
| 04:26.24 | tope | it said one file had the problem and asked me if i wanted to skip that one file or stop all toggether |
| 04:26.29 | Shirik | but that error could have every effect from it working correctly to your computer completely dying. The implications of it are indeterminate |
| 04:26.56 | tope | wait just one sec i have to brb real quick |
| 04:27.36 | Shirik | heh, I like my event viewer log |
| 04:27.38 | Shirik | It's spammed with |
| 04:27.40 | Shirik | The device 'PANTECH USB Modem WWAN Driver #3' (USB\VID_106c&PID_3711&MI_02\6&1809da59&0&8515) disappeared from the system without first being prepared for removal. |
| 04:27.58 | Shirik | I unplug my EVDO card instead of disconnecting from the internet |
| 04:27.59 | Shirik | it's easier |
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| 04:29.51 | Nechckn_SomeZs | crazy usb devices |
| 04:30.04 | Nechckn_SomeZs | stop that card, or else, Mr.! |
| 04:30.22 | Shirik | what's going to happen? |
| 04:30.27 | Shirik | they monitor my usage by MB |
| 04:30.32 | Nechckn_SomeZs | nothing |
| 04:30.40 | Shirik | how they gonna transfer stuff if I don't have it connected :P |
| 04:30.42 | Nechckn_SomeZs | fragmentation, maybe |
| 04:31.08 | Nechckn_SomeZs | ewww.. that's no fun |
| 04:31.23 | Shirik | this is so awesome |
| 04:31.25 | Nechckn_SomeZs | decent connectivity though- how fast do you get in the wilds of PA? |
| 04:31.29 | Shirik | I'm looking at the error code list |
| 04:31.41 | Nechckn_SomeZs | you are a sick, sick monkey |
| 04:31.46 | Shirik | 0x80004005 seems to be the error code to use when you don't have a clue what went wrong |
| 04:31.53 | Shirik | 0x80004004 is close, "Operation aborted" |
| 04:31.59 | Nechckn_SomeZs | That sounds about right |
| 04:32.32 | Shirik | these are definitely .NET error codes though |
| 04:32.36 | Shirik | that must be the 0x8 set |
| 04:33.38 | tope | ok im back |
| 04:33.59 | tope | im gonna try to re install and hope that i'm not having a total melt down |
| 04:34.15 | Nechckn_SomeZs | may I suggest you do this... |
| 04:34.15 | Shirik | Error 0x80004025: Activations on the server are paused. |
| 04:34.17 | Shirik | Error 0x80004026: Activations on the server are not paused. |
| 04:34.24 | Shirik | .... which one isn't an error? >< |
| 04:34.37 | Nechckn_SomeZs | tell your machine to shut down... wait for it to shut down all the way |
| 04:34.40 | Nechckn_SomeZs | then reboot |
| 04:34.45 | Shirik | I agree with Nechckn_SomeZs |
| 04:34.51 | Nechckn_SomeZs | once it comes back up, then try to reinstall |
| 04:35.07 | Shirik | re-download it too |
| 04:35.43 | tope | so then i defineatly shoudlnt skip the error'd file and keep going then right? |
| 04:35.59 | tope | just making sure that wouldnt' be easier, lol |
| 04:36.05 | Shirik | ignoring errors is typically a bad idea |
| 04:36.09 | tope | ok |
| 04:36.13 | tope | brb |
| 04:36.16 | Shirik | despite the fact that almost everyone does it while writing C code |
| 04:41.46 | Kinesia | Actually, what I'd do is run chkdsk. Maybe it's trying to copy the files to a place on your harddrive that has an error... |
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| 04:42.12 | Nechckn_SomeZs | ha, ha Kinesia- too slow! |
| 04:42.18 | Kinesia | Always |
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| 04:43.31 | Nechckn_SomeZs | I had a system that used to pop up random, unspecified errors after being on for an hour or so |
| 04:44.02 | Nechckn_SomeZs | after numerous hair pulling "sollutions", ended up being a video card that was dying |
| 04:44.29 | Nechckn_SomeZs | it was actually mucking with other system functions some how or other... damn thing |
| 04:45.10 | Shirik | video cards actually do a lot of kernel mode code |
| 04:45.28 | Shirik | if the card is going bad and the driver doesn't do enough safety checks, who knows what could happen |
| 04:46.08 | Shirik | maybe "a lot" is an overstatement, but still |
| 04:46.15 | Nechckn_SomeZs | yeah.. it was no fun because it's not like the screen would flicker and errors would pop.. it was during all sorts of different things |
| 04:46.44 | Nechckn_SomeZs | finally one error popped that I could trace back to the culprit |
| 04:47.02 | Nechckn_SomeZs | spanks bad video cards |
| 04:48.34 | Kinesia | Last time I thought I had video card trouble it turned out to be the motherboard... I havent fixed it yet because it's not as easy to swap over as a video card! |
| 04:48.54 | Shirik | most of my problems are caused by my own fault |
| 04:48.56 | Nechckn_SomeZs | swap mobo! |
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| 04:49.17 | Kinesia | It's got water cooling, so getting the cpu off the thing is a massive pain |
| 04:49.31 | Nechckn_SomeZs | oh my... |
| 04:49.38 | Nechckn_SomeZs | water cooling.. fancy |
| 04:49.58 | Shirik | I've never found the need for it :P |
| 04:50.13 | Shirik | the CPU isn't the issue in 99% of computers these days |
| 04:50.37 | Kinesia | I was feeling extravagant... I wish I hadn't been! |
| 04:50.45 | Shirik | it looks awesome though! |
| 04:50.49 | Nechckn_SomeZs | well, for some things it's ok... especially with all of these dual layer video cards and tons of RAM, etc... |
| 04:50.55 | Shirik | I'm guilty of having neon lighting too |
| 04:51.03 | Kinesia | It does look pretty cool. grin |
| 04:51.17 | Nechckn_SomeZs | Neon? is this on your toyota computer, Shirik? |
| 04:51.44 | Nechckn_SomeZs | ground effects, water cooling, kickin' |
| 04:51.53 | Shirik | neon green |
| 04:51.56 | Nechckn_SomeZs | woops.. kickin' sound system, etc... |
| 04:52.02 | Shirik | come on, you can't tell me you don't have crazy lighting |
| 04:52.26 | Nechckn_SomeZs | me? ha, I'm not cool enough for that |
| 04:52.41 | Shirik | unfortunately it draws .2A |
| 04:52.52 | Shirik | lua> .2 * 12 |
| 04:52.52 | lua_bot | Shirik: 2.4 |
| 04:53.43 | Shirik | lua> 2.4 * 24 |
| 04:53.43 | lua_bot | Shirik: 57.6 |
| 04:53.43 | Shirik | hm, I guess it's not as bad as I thought |
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| 04:54.24 | Shirik | lua> 57.6 * 31 |
| 04:54.24 | lua_bot | Shirik: 1785.6 |
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| 04:54.24 | Shirik | 1.8KWh per month |
| 04:54.46 | Kinesia | The electricity meter at my house spins fast and constantly to the consternation of my environmental friend |
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| 04:55.25 | Shirik | electricity is expensive where I live |
| 04:55.52 | Kinesia | i've considered getting solar actually, but it's not quite there ytet... |
| 04:56.10 | Shirik | actually |
| 04:56.39 | Shirik | I get an IEEE magazine monthly due to being a member, they had an article recently about a new technology for solar power |
| 04:56.46 | Shirik | it's pretty impressive |
| 04:57.06 | Kinesia | I'd love to get some of the experimental stuff... |
| 04:57.48 | Shirik | but yeah solar power has a lot of inefficiencies right now, and they're all in different places |
| 04:58.21 | Shirik | but I expect a big breakthrough soon, if not only driven by the rising cost of oil |
| 04:58.23 | Nechckn_SomeZs | Well the fact that they figured out how to double the number of cells and actually have a panel return more power over the service life than the amount taken to create the panel was a huge step forward |
| 04:59.21 | Kinesia | heh |
| 04:59.30 | Shirik | anyway, time for bed |
| 04:59.33 | Shirik | have fun |
| 04:59.48 | Nechckn_SomeZs | good night, don't let the keystone bugs bite |
| 05:40.11 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-111 10dinesh: attempt to compare number with table: sort() -> BuildIDList() -> GetScanData()06 (Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-111 |
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| 05:44.32 | Marren | quick question for u guys. got a Q6600 quad processor. any way to increase auction/sec when scanning auctions? when its done its usually in 40+ but starts out with low A/s. |
| 05:49.10 | Cera | for the quickest scans type /aadv getall |
| 05:50.31 | Marren | tyvm i will try that |
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| 06:08.24 | Kinesia | Shame people leave so quick... I would've mentioned that the speed is largely limited by name resolution and his cpu doesn't help... (Though a really slow one can throttle stuff!) |
| 06:09.20 | Nechckn_SomeZs | True... but getall will seem like pure magic |
| 06:09.40 | Kinesia | Unless it just kicks him. Grin. |
| 06:10.03 | Nechckn_SomeZs | I've stopped having that problem... happened a few weeks ago |
| 06:10.23 | Kinesia | I got it even worse since the patch. Hasn't worked once. |
| 06:10.23 | Nechckn_SomeZs | like a week prior to the 2.4.2 dunno why.. but I'm much happier |
| 06:10.44 | Nechckn_SomeZs | That sucks so bad.. I hope one of the "fixes" fixes it for you |
| 06:11.13 | Kinesia | We'll see what happens... Ah well... taken to doing some of my scanning at work to save more time at home... |
| 06:11.38 | Nechckn_SomeZs | Ha! now that's a good use of resources ehhehe |
| 06:11.53 | Kinesia | It doesn't exactly steal much attention. grin. |
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| 08:56.35 | vithos | oh my god, i forgot about that change.. never knew it went live (getall) |
| 08:59.06 | vithos | that's incredible. |
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| 09:32.14 | norgjira | Task 03APPR-154 10jellybean: "deposit for 1x" and "total deposit" show a zero value 06* (Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-154 |
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| 09:59.24 | Nechckn_SomeZs | Yeah vithos, some folks get disconnected nearly continuously. It works well on medium servers if you have a decent connection... Let us know about your experience periodically- especially if you notice any connection between other activities and disconnects, et cetera. Best of Luck!! |
| 10:13.28 | vithos | it's working perfectly for me now, but i'll let you know if i ever have problems :) |
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| 10:37.14 | norgjira | Task 03APPR-154 10Nechckn: "deposit for 1x" and "total deposit" show a zero value 06 (Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-154 |
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| 12:37.39 | Aiji | hello all |
| 12:38.20 | Aiji | Not really sure if this is the place to turn to but, I haven't found any documentation about it, but when I enter Outland, my tooltip with prices on mouseover disappears, only workable in azeroth |
| 13:10.18 | Aiji | Not really sure if this is the place to turn to but, I haven't found any documentation about it, but when I enter Outland, my tooltip with prices on mouseover disappears, only workable in azeroth |
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| 14:16.02 | Aiji | Not really sure if this is the place to turn to but, I haven't found any documentation about it, but when I enter Outland, my tooltip with prices on mouseover disappears, only workable in azeroth |
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| 14:37.47 | Nechckn_SomeZs | Aiji that is a known issue, there is a trouble ticket open for that now |
| 14:38.16 | Nechckn_SomeZs | not sure when it will be fixed, per se... but it will be as soon as we have time to attend to it. |
| 14:39.01 | Nechckn_SomeZs | If you look in the options, you should be able to force "Show my Faction Pricing Always" via a checkbox in the configuration |
| 14:39.59 | Nechckn_SomeZs | That could well help you. Please let us know if that addresses the issue as that may aid in its eventual remedy. |
| 14:40.01 | Aiji | I'll look into it |
| 14:40.35 | Aiji | trying it now |
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| 14:40.46 | Nechckn_SomeZs | okey dokey |
| 14:42.22 | Aiji | where in the options should that be? lots of pages here |
| 14:43.39 | Aiji | found it, that did the trick |
| 14:44.06 | Nechckn_SomeZs | It did? cool |
| 14:44.24 | Nechckn_SomeZs | Are you using the enUS version of the game or a different localization? |
| 14:44.35 | Aiji | I'm in europe |
| 14:46.01 | Nechckn_SomeZs | ok, like I said it should work without having to do that, for some reason some versions think Outland==Neutral like the Goblin towns, which it should not. |
| 14:46.25 | Nechckn_SomeZs | Appreciate your checking that out, I'll put some notes in the ticket =) |
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| 14:59.06 | Aiji | Nech, the weird part is that it's done this for so long, even on version 4, are you the programmer? |
| 15:00.09 | Nechckn_SomeZs | I don't do the programming myself, work with the team who does, though. |
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| 15:03.44 | NeedHelp | hello |
| 15:03.50 | NeedHelp | can some one help me please? |
| 15:04.38 | Nechckn_SomeZs | maybe... depends on how much money you have |
| 15:05.04 | NeedHelp | lol what? |
| 15:05.19 | NeedHelp | not in the game.. |
| 15:05.25 | NeedHelp | it's a questiong about the addon |
| 15:05.33 | NeedHelp | Auctioneer.... |
| 15:05.52 | Nechckn_SomeZs | I was joking. Anyway, what's the issue? |
| 15:05.52 | NeedHelp | you know how to make the items look bigger in the AH? |
| 15:06.04 | NeedHelp | ^^... yeah i know :P... |
| 15:06.07 | NeedHelp | i got it to slow |
| 15:06.46 | NeedHelp | in the new ver. of auctioneer, the items are small at the Auction house... |
| 15:07.24 | Nechckn_SomeZs | yeah, I know the issue... one second I'll find the command you need |
| 15:07.35 | Kinesia | In the settings you'll want to turn off the Compact UI. |
| 15:08.00 | Kinesia | Sticks tongue out at Neck |
| 15:08.29 | Nechckn_SomeZs | You can turn it off... but if you like the compactUI you can actually make the AH window bigger, is what I am getting at... silly Kinesia |
| 15:08.51 | Kinesia | Ahhh... And Silly Kinesia is a tautology |
| 15:10.28 | Nechckn_SomeZs | http://wiki.norganna.org/AucAdvanced/FAQ second to last question NeedHelp |
| 15:10.46 | Nechckn_SomeZs | does not like Kinesia any more |
| 15:10.56 | Nechckn_SomeZs | thinks Kinesia is a big meanie! |
| 15:11.42 | NeedHelp | how i make the AH windom bigger? |
| 15:12.16 | Nechckn_SomeZs | Go to http://wiki.norganna.org/AucAdvanced/FAQ the command is listed in the next to last question covered there |
| 15:13.32 | Nechckn_SomeZs | the command is "/run AuctionFrame:SetScale(1.0)" without quotes, and you modify the number to change the size |
| 15:14.40 | Nechckn_SomeZs | Start with 1.1 then go to 1.2 changing up as you like... |
| 15:15.11 | NeedHelp | ok, 1 sec i will try |
| 15:16.44 | NeedHelp | is there any way i can move the window by holding down the mouse |
| 15:18.16 | Nechckn_SomeZs | if you do not have another mod that allows you to click and move windows... Go into the configuration, then find the Utility section, then "Mover" Enable that |
| 15:18.37 | Nechckn_SomeZs | Configuration is accessed via button on the top right of the Appraiser window |
| 15:19.07 | Nechckn_SomeZs | or via the "coin stack" button on the SlideBar, installed by default just below the minimap |
| 15:19.29 | NeedHelp | 1 sec... trying |
| 15:20.30 | Nechckn_SomeZs | With that enabled, you can then click and drag the AH frame by clicking and holding the left button and then moving to your desired locale |
| 15:21.10 | Nechckn_SomeZs | I have got to run for a bit... if there is anything else just ask it and someone will jump in with an answer if they know |
| 15:21.18 | Nechckn_SomeZs | Best of luck to you! =) |
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| 15:29.47 | NeedHelp | ty |
| 15:30.22 | Kandoko | No need to repost it multiple time Aiji we read the backlogs when someone wanders around. So you do not see any tooltip data in Outlads, or just in a specific place like Shatterath? |
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| 15:38.48 | Kandoko | Aiji: Go into AucAdv options Core Settings=>General=> check See home faction data everywhere unless at a neutral AH. |
| 15:46.30 | NeedHelp | Kandoko.. |
| 15:46.38 | NeedHelp | can you help me please? |
| 15:46.50 | NeedHelp | i'm not finding the "Mover" |
| 15:48.35 | Kinesia | you should be able to click most parts of the window, but easiest to use the bar along the top, like when you move a windows window |
| 15:53.08 | NeedHelp | but where is the option for enable the "Mover" |
| 15:53.23 | NeedHelp | i entered the Configuration.. |
| 15:53.52 | NeedHelp | now Util Modules right?.. |
| 15:54.22 | Kinesia | um, yep |
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| 15:54.41 | Kinesia | between itemsuggest and pricelevel |
| 15:58.26 | NeedHelp | i don't see the itemsuggerst but i see the pricelevel.. |
| 16:05.30 | Kinesia | what version number are you running? I think mover was added a fair while ago though |
| 16:08.16 | NeedHelp | i download it 2 or 3 days ago.. |
| 16:08.21 | NeedHelp | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:09.06 | NeedHelp | V5.0.PRE.3104 |
| 16:09.57 | Kinesia | that should be fine. |
| 16:10.04 | Kinesia | and you don't see mover at all? |
| 16:10.45 | NeedHelp | it's called Mover?.. |
| 16:11.04 | Kinesia | yep. just mover |
| 16:11.29 | NeedHelp | and it's need to be in the Util Modules ?] |
| 16:11.50 | Kinesia | In your warcraft directory could you have a look in : Interface/Addons/Auc-Advanced/Modules and see what directories are in there? |
| 16:11.55 | Kinesia | yep, it should be in that section |
| 16:12.10 | NeedHelp | so i don't have it o.o |
| 16:13.02 | Kinesia | Yep, if you have a look in that directory for me we can see if it's just not loading properly or if you dont have it at all |
| 16:13.59 | NeedHelp | wich one i need to have there? |
| 16:14.33 | Kinesia | I think the directory is calle Auc-Util-Mover |
| 16:15.38 | NeedHelp | nop, don't haveit.. |
| 16:15.52 | Kinesia | are there other directories there? |
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| 16:19.44 | Kinesia | Hmmm, looks like it's not actually in the release... that is very odd... Download it from http://zip.norganna.org/auctioneer/Auc-Util-Mover/ for now and put it in that directory... I'll talk to the other about why it isn't in the package at the moment. |
| 16:25.44 | NeedHelp | ty |
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| 16:33.45 | GFT | any of the author's of auctioneer around? |
| 16:34.01 | ckknight | authors, not author's |
| 16:34.08 | GFT | yeah my bad : |
| 16:34.17 | GFT | grammar nazi :P |
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| 16:39.17 | pryba | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:39.17 | pryba | ~lart ckknight |
| 16:39.17 | purl | overclocks ckknight until ckknight burns out |
| 16:39.17 | pryba | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:39.20 | pryba | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:39.28 | ckknight | wtf |
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| 16:39.33 | yxzbvypeq | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:39.33 | yxzbvypeq | ~lart ckknight |
| 16:39.33 | purl | decapitates ckknight conan the destroyer style |
| 16:39.33 | yxzbvypeq | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:39.36 | yxzbvypeq | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
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| 16:39.46 | ivsu | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:39.46 | ivsu | ~lart ckknight |
| 16:39.46 | purl | nukes ckknight with a single large nuke |
| 16:39.46 | ivsu | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:39.49 | ivsu | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:39.53 | ivsu | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:39.53 | ckknight | Cera, dinesh, Kandoko, Kinesia-sleep, Legorol, Nechckn_SomeZs, RockSlice, Thorarin: ping |
| 16:39.57 | ivsu | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:39.59 | ivsu | ~lart ckknight |
| 16:39.59 | purl | slaps ckknight upside the head with a wet fish |
| 16:40.01 | ivsu | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
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| 16:40.04 | qop | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.04 | qop | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
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| 16:40.06 | ivsu | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.07 | qop | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.09 | qop | ~lart ckknight |
| 16:40.09 | purl | slams ckknight against a large cement Tux |
| 16:40.09 | ivsu | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.11 | qop | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
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| 16:40.12 | vatytsy | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.13 | vatytsy | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
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| 16:40.13 | gj | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.13 | gj | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.14 | ivsu | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.15 | qop | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.15 | gj | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.18 | ivsu | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
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| 16:40.19 | jicazptb | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.19 | jicazptb | ~lart ckknight |
| 16:40.19 | purl | whacks ckknight with a giant beaver's tail |
| 16:40.19 | jicazptb | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.19 | qop | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.21 | ivsu | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.23 | qop | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
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| 16:40.24 | xzr | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.24 | xzr | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.25 | ivsu | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.27 | qop | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.29 | qop | ~lart ckknight |
| 16:40.29 | purl | says "boot to the head" and knocks ckknight over |
| 16:40.29 | ivsu | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
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| 16:40.30 | czclaxwktpy | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.30 | czclaxwktpy | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.32 | qop | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
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| 16:40.32 | zcltgg | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.33 | zcltgg | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.33 | czclaxwktpy | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.34 | ivsu | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.34 | zcltgg | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.35 | qop | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.37 | czclaxwktpy | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.37 | ivsu | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.39 | czclaxwktpy | ~lart ckknight |
| 16:40.39 | purl | puts ckknight into a headlock and administers a mighty noogie, rubbing half of ckknight's hair of |
| 16:40.39 | qop | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.40 | ckknight | Kaelten: make it +r |
| 16:40.41 | czclaxwktpy | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.42 | ivsu | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.43 | qop | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
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| 16:40.45 | czclaxwktpy | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:40.46 | ivsu | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
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| 16:40.49 | czclaxwktpy | lua> "ckknight is a cunny" |
| 16:41.04 | ckknight | that was annoying. |
| 16:41.09 | Kinesia-sleep | yikes |
| 16:41.30 | Kinesia-sleep | And it used to be such a lovely neighbourhood... |
| 16:42.10 | GFT | heh |
| 16:42.48 | DocCunny | ckknight>> you are annoying. |
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| 16:47.27 | Kaelten | ~lart ckknight |
| 16:47.27 | purl | takes out ckknight with the trash |
| 16:47.34 | ckknight | ? |
| 16:47.42 | Kaelten | it sounded like fun |
| 17:00.26 | Legorol | wth was that |
| 17:07.55 | GFT | Legorol pm? |
| 17:09.15 | norgjira | New Feature 03ADV-234 10Kinesia: Add Mover to the build.conf06* (Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-234 |
| 17:17.24 | Legorol | GFT: what about my pm? |
| 17:18.35 | GFT | was curious if I could talk to you in one :) |
| 17:31.12 | GFT | guess not >..< |
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| 17:49.05 | dinesh | ckknight: sorry about that, was away at lunch |
| 17:49.27 | dinesh | looks like Kinesia-sleep took care of it |
| 17:49.36 | ckknight | yea |
| 17:49.40 | ckknight | was odd |
| 17:50.13 | dinesh | heh, you have a target on you, i imagine you've seen worse. :) |
| 17:51.07 | GFT | dinesh can I pm you real quick? |
| 17:52.02 | dinesh | sure, though if it's a normal auctioneer question i'd prefer you just post it into chat so everyone can benefit from the answer |
| 17:52.17 | GFT | not a normal one no :P |
| 17:52.32 | dinesh | then shoot, but hurry, have to head to a meeting in 5m |
| 17:54.21 | GFT | you get the PM? |
| 17:54.25 | dinesh | i did not |
| 17:54.39 | GFT | hrm you must have them blocked |
| 17:54.40 | GFT | heh |
| 17:54.56 | dinesh | i don't think i do. did you get mine? |
| 17:54.59 | GFT | yes |
| 17:55.42 | dinesh | did you reply? if so, i don't see it, so maybe something is f'ed |
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| 18:23.19 | Daede | got a q |
| 18:23.42 | Daede | any chance we could get Gatherer to track the locations of Windy Clouds and the likes? |
| 18:24.33 | Daede | and it would rock if there were a way to filter gatherers hud for what youre currently tracking (veins vs herbs vs clouds vs treasure) |
| 18:25.20 | Daede | i know there IS a way, but it's not very easy or convenient |
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| 18:54.47 | GFT | MentalPower: can I PM you real quick? Was told to contact you by dinesh |
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| 19:20.32 | CIA-47 | auctioneer: 03kandoko * r3119 10/trunk/build.conf: |
| 19:20.32 | CIA-47 | auctioneer: Fixes AMOV-1 |
| 19:20.32 | CIA-47 | auctioneer: Adds Auc-Util-Mover to the build.conf so it will be included in preview builds. |
| 19:23.11 | norgjira | Task 03AMOV-1 10kandoko: Add Auc-Util-Mover to the Build.conf file.06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/AMOV-1 |
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| 20:53.08 | tope | hi i talked to you guys yesterday about an unspecified error, i rebooted the computer, and then i decided to try to download the auc full suite again today, and when it was moving the files from the zip file to the addon file it came up with that same error again |
| 20:54.11 | tope | do you think that i can try to download the classic and advanced seperatly instead of downloading the full suite, would that be the same thing |
| 20:54.33 | GhostfromTexas | what error? |
| 20:55.14 | GhostfromTexas | cycle redundency check? |
| 20:55.34 | tope | error 0x80004005 Unspecified Error debuglib.toc |
| 20:55.45 | GhostfromTexas | other zips work just fine? |
| 20:55.51 | tope | type: TOC file |
| 20:56.28 | tope | well i was transfering them all at the same time and i didn't have problems before this one file, but i dont' know which one it is or how i would transfer them with out it |
| 20:56.49 | tope | and yesterday it was the same file that i had a problem with |
| 20:56.54 | tope | they said it was my computer |
| 20:57.09 | tope | but i dont' ahve any problems when doing anything else but downloading that file |
| 20:57.17 | GhostfromTexas | yeah that's usually a CRC error |
| 20:57.26 | GhostfromTexas | that can be releated to bad registry/ram/HDD |
| 20:57.40 | tope | i am not good on computers so you'll have to put it in retard terms |
| 20:58.03 | GhostfromTexas | vista or XP? |
| 20:58.12 | tope | also everytime i get on this chat it says theres' a problem with the digital signature? |
| 20:58.18 | tope | vista |
| 20:58.37 | GhostfromTexas | you should schedule your computer to do a system check on your next boot |
| 20:58.40 | tope | and where in texas are you from i just moved to houston maybe you could just come over and fix it, lol just kidding |
| 20:58.51 | GhostfromTexas | if you go to My Comptuer and right-click on the C: Drive |
| 20:58.55 | GhostfromTexas | go to properties |
| 20:59.11 | GhostfromTexas | then under tools click Check NOw for disk errors |
| 20:59.19 | GhostfromTexas | then try to start it |
| 20:59.31 | GhostfromTexas | I believe even with vista it ask oyu to schedule one on the next restart |
| 20:59.41 | GhostfromTexas | if you do then restart your computer and it will do it when it starts up |
| 21:01.26 | tope | ok im gonna restart brb, thank you for your help |
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| 22:37.28 | Suicide_King | Hello there |
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| 22:38.17 | Suicide_King | I have a few questions about auctioneer advanced - about the auction searhUI and I was wondering if someone here could help me |
| 22:39.05 | Suicide_King | Anyone have the time? :) |
| 22:40.31 | Suicide_King | hmm... I'll throw my question out there and hope someone answers :) |
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| 22:41.50 | Suicide_King | I was wondering where the Auction SearchUI takes it's data from. How does it figure out potential profit of purchases? I also use the broker command and they get wildly different results. I can't match up the profit expected from the UI with any of the info my auctioneer displays. |
| 22:43.00 | Suicide_King | eg. I can look at a stack of wool. I can clearly see that the price is 50% of the usual and so there should be some kind of profit. Yet Auction SearchUI displays the profit as 0. I have taken the listing cost into account. |
| 22:43.30 | Suicide_King | by "usual" I mean what my auctioneer shows as the buyout |
| 22:46.38 | MentalPower | Suicide_King: the searchui takes its info from the aucadvanced snapshot |
| 22:46.57 | MentalPower | whereas the broker command takes its info from the aucclassic snapshot |
| 22:47.08 | MentalPower | also the searchui is still incomplete |
| 22:49.26 | Suicide_King | aucclassic is what exactly? A database independent of what I have scanned? Thanks for the help btw |
| 22:50.16 | MentalPower | classic is the older version of auctioneer |
| 22:51.01 | Suicide_King | ok... so what exactly is the profit column in the searchUI showing? Comparing it with any of the info from my database I can't get it to make sense |
| 22:51.58 | MentalPower | it should be money to be made after X num of reposts |
| 22:52.02 | MentalPower | X is usually 1.5 |
| 22:52.34 | Suicide_King | well where does it pull the expected sale price from? |
| 22:53.04 | MentalPower | auctioneer advanced's market price |
| 22:53.39 | MentalPower | which is currently an average across all the statistics modules (Simple, Standard Deviation and any others you might be running) |
| 22:53.39 | Suicide_King | Looking at inscribed flamme spessarite right now. Buyout price is 1.5 gold, according to appraiser the market price is 5.47g. It shows profit as 0 |
| 22:54.01 | Suicide_King | ah cool, thanks for that, good to know |
| 22:55.50 | Suicide_King | so any idea why it might be showing profit as 0? Should I fx save my database, reinstall the whole thing or something like that? Am I looking at a bug? |
| 22:56.11 | MentalPower | I'm not sure |
| 22:56.17 | MentalPower | check your searchui settings |
| 22:56.29 | MentalPower | make sure the relistings are not set insanely high |
| 23:00.40 | Suicide_King | Is there a place to change this as a global parameter? Only place I can see to change that is under the resale flag in the searchUI. I've switched it of there. |
| 23:12.41 | MentalPower | not that I know of |
| 23:16.07 | Suicide_King | damn, now I see what it is. |
| 23:16.17 | Suicide_King | auction searchUI can't handle stacks. |
| 23:16.45 | RockSlicer | it can't? |
| 23:16.50 | Suicide_King | When it sends a query to get the market price, it always returns the price of a single stk of that item. |
| 23:17.07 | Suicide_King | to calculate profit, it compares that to the price of a whole stack |
| 23:17.22 | Suicide_King | so according to searchUI stacks are almost never profitable to buy |
| 23:17.50 | Suicide_King | found a few instances of that. STill doesn't explain the flame spessarite though, which is a single item |
| 23:17.52 | Suicide_King | hmm... |
| 23:18.51 | RockSlicer | please add a JIRA for that |
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| 23:19.23 | Suicide_King | JIRA? |
| 23:19.27 | RockSlice | ~norgjira |
| 23:19.28 | purl | If you need to submit a ticket about one of our projects, head on over to http://jira.norganna.org . You need to log in to create a ticket, but you can just use your forum account. |
| 23:20.21 | Suicide_King | well, like I said, this explains some things, like the weird results with stacks. However it does not explain why it shows the profit as 0 for some single items as well |
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| 23:22.17 | RockSlice | can you take a screenshot of that, and upload to up.norganna.org, then link here to it? |
| 23:22.27 | RockSlice | (with tooltip showing) |
| 23:25.08 | Suicide_King | uh... gimme me a minute, I'll probably have to register for that, right? |
| 23:25.48 | RockSlice | jira? uses your forum login. up.norganna.org doesn't need a login |
| 23:26.32 | Suicide_King | ah, found out another thing. When doing a general parameter search, it still shows the profit column, but the profit is always shown as 0. Only when it does a resale search it puts anything but 0 there. |
| 23:26.43 | Suicide_King | right, on it :) |
| 23:26.51 | RockSlice | that's currently expected |
| 23:27.50 | Suicide_King | right, it confused the hell out of me though :) I was using searchUI to double check my broker findings :P |
| 23:28.37 | RockSlice | as was said earlier, SearchUI is still in it's infancy, and may change |
| 23:29.18 | Suicide_King | well, it's a very cool addon and thanks for putting it out there. Even if the searchUI can currently only be used for single stack items, it still rocks :) |
| 23:31.02 | Suicide_King | http://up.norganna.org/index.php/vyfFZPi/WoWScrnShot_052308_013011.jpg |
| 23:31.08 | Suicide_King | that's the screenshot |
| 23:32.11 | RockSlice | i meant for the 0-profit on resale results |
| 23:34.46 | Suicide_King | oh, that was just because I was using the general parameters search to double check results from the resale searches. |
| 23:34.57 | RockSlice | ok |
| 23:34.59 | Suicide_King | I thought you meant for the stacking thing. |
| 23:35.15 | Suicide_King | which is what the screenshot is of |
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| 23:37.26 | RockSlice | I'll have to run some tests once my new RAM arrives tomorrow on the stack issue |
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| 23:40.10 | Suicide_King | is there any way to change where searchUI takes it's prices from? Currently it takes them from market price... |
| 23:40.36 | Nechckn_SomeZs | As it gets more refined, there likely will be |
| 23:40.41 | Nechckn_SomeZs | for now, not really |
| 23:40.43 | RockSlice | resale actually takes it from Appraiser pricing, which is usually Market |
| 23:41.25 | RockSlice | so if you have appraiser set to post using StdDev, SearchUI - resale will use stddev |
| 23:45.11 | Suicide_King | ah, excellent. |
| 23:51.46 | Suicide_King | one more question. In the tooltip, when it's set to display aucclassic prices, the seen count seems to be kinda random. Right now I'm looking at an item I have seen at the auction house 387 times. It shows an aucclassic price with a seen count of 35. |
| 23:52.19 | Suicide_King | does this mean it is the single price it has seen the most times? Ie it selects the most consistent price |
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| 23:54.55 | RockSlice | It means the number of times AucClassic has seen that item. Bear in mind that AucClassic will only see an item when you're scanning using Classic's interface |
| 23:55.24 | RockSlice | AucAdv will see an item anytime it's on the browse panel, whether AA scanning, AC scanning, or manual browsing |
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| 23:57.19 | Suicide_King | hmm... ok. How do I do AA scans? Is that when I hit the "scan" button on my AH interface? |
| 23:57.35 | Nechckn_SomeZs | The upper left, it's a "play" button |
| 23:57.45 | Nechckn_SomeZs | or you can type /AAdv scan |
| 23:58.09 | Suicide_King | alright, and the scan button is the AC scan. |
| 23:58.14 | Nechckn_SomeZs | with Adv you can also pause or stop the scan, too |
| 23:58.20 | Nechckn_SomeZs | Right Suicide_King |
| 23:59.08 | Suicide_King | one last question. Is there any way to pull out data so I can display prices over time? Get my AA to display what the recorded prices are for certain dates? |
