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| 02:53.11 | norgjira | Improvement 03ADV-186 10rockslice: Improve API.GetBestMatch() to accept a value as an option06 (Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-186 |
| 02:53.12 | norgjira | Improvement 03APPR-91 10rockslice: Allow matchers to work on fixed prices06* (Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-91 |
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| 03:09.32 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: 03rockslice * r2860 10Auc-Advanced/CoreAPI.lua: |
| 03:09.32 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: Lets API.GetBestMatch() accept a value into algorithm variable (ADV-186) |
| 03:09.32 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: This allows for use for fixed baseprices |
| 03:11.14 | norgjira | Pollution 03auctioneer r2860 10rockslice: Auc-Advanced/CoreAPI.lua has a new global variable: _ at line 338 |
| 03:11.25 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: 03rockslice * r2861 10Auc-Util-Appraiser/AprFrame.lua: |
| 03:11.25 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: Allows fixed prices to be base price for matching (APPR-91) |
| 03:11.25 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: This allows the user to use matchers to vary the price slightly around a fixed price. |
| 03:11.25 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: Matching is turned off automatically when fixed price is entered, to ensure user wants matching. |
| 03:13.14 | norgjira | Pollution 03auctioneer r2861 10rockslice: Auc-Util-Appraiser/AprFrame.lua has a new global variable: _ at line 373 |
| 03:13.46 | Esamynn|Work | RockSlice: Spammer! :P |
| 03:14.00 | RockSlice | not another one! |
| 03:14.58 | Esamynn|Work | oh also, Polluter! :P |
| 03:18.03 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: 03rockslice * r2862 10Auc-Util-Appraiser/AprFrame.lua: removes _ pollution for APPR-91 fix |
| 03:18.21 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: 03rockslice * r2863 10Auc-Advanced/CoreAPI.lua: removes _ pollution for ADV-186 fix |
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| 03:48.04 | testleK | ahhh crud |
| 03:49.20 | testleK | I wasn't paying attention and someone totally flooded the runecloth market I had snatched almost 700 runecloth at 6 silver before I noticed |
| 03:50.00 | RockSlice | woot! talk about profit op! |
| 03:50.32 | testleK | I guess I'mm just cod it to an alt and wait for em to come back good deal tho |
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| 04:15.13 | norgjira | Improvement 03APPR-91 10rockslice: Allow matchers to work on fixed prices06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-91 |
| 04:15.14 | norgjira | Improvement 03ADV-186 10rockslice: Improve API.GetBestMatch() to accept a value as an option06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-186 |
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| 04:22.03 | Nechckn | testleK Holy damn... that is one mighty nice deal. I wouldn't worry about having to "hold" it that long =) |
| 04:22.37 | Nechckn | Geez, at that price, it would be worth starting another and outfitting with bags so that they could help you haul all the Gold away! |
| 04:23.08 | testleK | yeah now that I have retrieved them from my mb and done my cod I agree:P |
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| 06:31.42 | wilson | a |
| 06:32.02 | wilson | hi thar |
| 06:32.16 | Nechckn | Hello there wilson |
| 06:32.43 | wilson | i have a question about ui modding |
| 06:33.29 | wilson | how do addons like gatherer store their data? |
| 06:34.23 | Nechckn | via lua script and tables |
| 06:35.44 | Nechckn | For some really good, indepth information about general WoW UI Mods, see http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=11114&sid=1 |
| 06:36.32 | Nechckn | Also, you can /join #wowi-lounge where many of the "famous" authors hang out and will help you get around or over any pitfalls you run across |
| 06:37.44 | Nechckn | Be sure to read over the information on that forum, particularly the stickies http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=442927843&sid=1 and http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11381244&sid=1 |
| 06:38.53 | Nechckn | Blizzard allows mods via lua in a sort of "sandbox" where you are only allowed access to those things Blizzard will allow, all access to the "outside world" is suspended as well. |
| 06:40.06 | wilson | well i'm looking to write something that gathers data from events like wowhead and thottbot |
| 06:40.51 | wilson | evidently it will require an external program to parse the data that gets dumped from wow |
| 06:40.59 | Nechckn | Okay... and what do you want to do with the information you gather? |
| 06:41.21 | wilson | put it in a database on my development server |
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| 06:41.55 | wilson | i have read how they sandbox you and you can't use luasocket and the like |
| 06:42.06 | wilson | but i can't find any information on the intermediate formats |
| 06:42.51 | wilson | i'm hoping wowhead and thottbot's client apps don't require polling and editing values in the client's memory - i don't want to get into that |
| 06:42.57 | wilson | and i'm afraid of the warden |
| 06:44.47 | Nechckn | Those stickies have quite a bit of information, as does http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Interface_customization which actually lists what lua commands are allowed, API, etc. |
| 06:45.40 | Nechckn | So you're looking to what? Pull the contents of WoWHead, Thottbott, etc.. and make your own DB or something else? |
| 06:46.53 | wilson | oh, no |
| 06:47.00 | wilson | just gather in-game statistics from my own characters |
| 06:47.09 | wilson | and somehow get them to an external DB |
| 06:47.32 | Nechckn | Ah.. that's different.. hold on. |
| 06:47.42 | wilson | i don't want to be another thottbot, or anything. |
| 06:47.51 | wilson | i cite them because they have to get over the same hurdle |
| 06:48.37 | wilson | like, i don't know where the persistant variables and lua tables get saved to disk |
| 06:49.44 | wilson | the gatherer DB import code is pretty slick. it looks like it converts databases from mod old versions |
| 06:49.45 | Nechckn | That's something we don't do... what I'd say is head over to wowi-lounge and ask that exact question there. about needing to find those specific files in order to export your own character data. I'd honestly think a few folks there can tell you off the top of their heads..no kidding. |
| 06:50.28 | wilson | thanks Neck |
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| 06:51.02 | Axil | Hello, can anyone answer me a quick question? |
| 06:51.03 | Nechckn | It's not that hard but I personally don't know off the top... =) Cairenn is especially smart =) |
| 06:51.11 | Nechckn | Hi Axil.. what's up? |
| 06:51.37 | Nechckn | wilson I say that here, since she sometimes listens in over here =) |
| 06:52.03 | Axil | I just downloaded the mod and if i understand correctly bean counter is supposed to act as a ledger that tracks auction profits and expenses.. but i can't figure out how it works. What i want is just a list of expenses and profits, with a total at the bottom, does Auctioneer do that? |
| 06:52.24 | Nechckn | Not quite. |
| 06:52.43 | Nechckn | hehehe nice answer, right? It will show you what you have bought/sold/etc... |
| 06:52.57 | Nechckn | basically by watching your mailbox as you get items/cash there |
| 06:53.20 | Axil | right, i can't figure out how to get that info tho' |
| 06:53.44 | Nechckn | Did you get the Advanced version? |
| 06:53.51 | Axil | yes i did |
| 06:54.19 | Nechckn | Ok, great... once you load everything up there will be a "sliderbar" Usually it comes up just under the minimap |
| 06:54.23 | Axil | love the actual auctioning features.. much better than back when i used to play (like a year ago) I'd just like to know how much i made at the end of the game =) |
| 06:54.42 | Nechckn | Off of there, there are wee buttons.. one of them being BeanCounter |
| 06:54.59 | Nechckn | Also, when at the AH, along the bottom of the AH window, you will see a BeanCounter tab |
| 06:55.07 | Axil | sliderbar... i'm not sure i see that.. i have a big red egg tho' |
| 06:55.33 | Axil | and yeah i can get to the beancounter tab from the AH, i figured that out, i just can't get it to tell me anything, lol |
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| 06:56.12 | norgjira | Bug 03BCNT-125 10Nechckn: BeanCounter.lua line 277: attempt to index local 'frame' (a nil value)06 (Closed/Duplicate) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-125 |
| 06:56.12 | norgjira | Bug 03BCNT-124 10Nechckn: BeanCounterUpdate.lua line 270: attempt to perform arithmetic on field '?' (a string value)06 (Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-124 |
| 06:56.15 | norgjira | Bug 03BCNT-126 10Nechckn: BeanCounter.lua line 293: attempt to call field 'searchByItemID' (a nil value)06 (Closed/Duplicate) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-126 |
| 06:56.28 | Nechckn | It should be a movable bar near the minimap with about 4-5 buttons on it. Ok.. well, even at the AH, you can just leave the search box empty and hit search- after you ahve bought/sold stuff the information will appear there |
| 06:56.43 | Nechckn | It's only since you've had Beancounter and the Auc suite installed though |
| 06:57.11 | Nechckn | One sec.. lemme check on something else too.. there are a few that just give total cash, etc.. lemme take a look. |
| 06:57.18 | Axil | ah, i haven't bought anything yet, i've just posted, it doesn't list fees huh? |
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| 07:00.47 | Nechckn | It subtracts them from your sales... if you hold shift as you hover over an item you can have the fees removed automatically |
| 07:01.20 | Axil | got it but i still have to make a sale first. Cool, i made a couple but i have to wait the hour to pick them up |
| 07:01.25 | Nechckn | If you look in the options- via the Appraiser tab at the AH, hit configure and there are all kinds of options- few, if any command line stuff anymore |
| 07:01.39 | Nechckn | Right you are, sir/ma'am |
| 07:01.49 | Nechckn | Also... check out http://www.wowace.com/wiki/FuBar_MoneyFu |
| 07:02.01 | Nechckn | You don't "need" fubar to use it either |
| 07:02.25 | Nechckn | it shows a quick summary of how much each character has, has made per hour,etc |
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| 07:02.43 | Axil | i'll have to take a look at that, thanks |
| 07:02.52 | Nechckn | It is super handy, especially when going from one character to another- then you can see which have cash, etc |
| 07:03.04 | Axil | i'm looking for like a general ledger.. preferably with a ton of filters so i can filter out looted cash, or what not |
| 07:03.27 | Nechckn | It's tiny and handy. Not nearly as much as you will have after using BeanCounter and making some sales, but still nice. |
| 07:04.06 | Nechckn | Hmm.. for that, I'd check either WoWInterface or Curse and go into the "money" type categories |
| 07:04.29 | Axil | i'll look it up, been meaning to check out all the Fubar/Ace stuff anyway... apparently Cosmos isn't the be-all, end-all it used to be |
| 07:04.32 | Nechckn | there are likely tons of 'em available, since it's something alot of folks like to track |
| 07:04.56 | Nechckn | Cosmos/Khaos is mighty different and pretty well gutted |
| 07:05.04 | Nechckn | I use it still for some features |
| 07:05.20 | Axil | cool, i'll have to go take a look, beancounter will probley do most of what i want now that i know how it works too. |
| 07:05.23 | Nechckn | but it's not the monster it was, nor will it erase other addons etc |
| 07:05.38 | Nechckn | Heheheh yeah, that helps too. =) |
| 07:06.01 | Nechckn | Well, be sure to come back if you have questions or anything- Auctioneer has come a long way in a year |
| 07:06.35 | Nechckn | AucAdv is basically beta quality atm since it was a full rewrite- but it's slim and lean and highly configurable |
| 07:06.50 | Nechckn | Visit the forums for a ton of info and helpful user too |
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| 07:12.01 | Axil | i definately will |
| 07:12.23 | Nechckn | Great- we need more interested, interesting folks! |
| 07:12.55 | Nechckn | You can never have enough =) Oh, and welcome back to WoW, any reason for the vacation? |
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| 07:17.19 | Axil | enh, i was playing other games, doing other stuff, getting married, etc. plus my biggest complaint (lack of a skillbased PvP ranking system) seems to have been addressed with the areanas |
| 07:17.59 | wilson | i stopped wow for 5 months after i got married. that didn't last ... |
| 07:18.28 | Nechckn | Woo... well, congratulations on getting hitched! Yeah, there have been changes, and quite a few more to come in WoTLK.. many good, some... not so good |
| 07:19.16 | Axil | WoTLK, another expansion i presume? I've heard nothing about it |
| 07:19.29 | Nechckn | Yeah Wrath of the Lich King |
| 07:19.36 | Nechckn | coming... sometime this year |
| 07:19.54 | Nechckn | actually patch 2.4 will have a whole instance |
| 07:19.56 | biglulz | lvl 80 =) |
| 07:20.48 | Nechckn | so that will be cool- always changes, changes.. keeps us here on our toes with all of the crazy changes. Yep- lvl 80 will be appreciated by many |
| 07:22.05 | Axil | ah crap.. i've never even been to 60... at this rate they'll add levels faster than i can climb them |
| 07:22.07 | Nechckn | that invite applies to you too, now, biglulz- please feel free to read around the message boards and such here at Auctioneeraddon.com/Norganna.org and also WoWInterface.com wowi is the site connected with the folks you are chatting with in the wowi-lounge channel |
| 07:22.14 | Axil | no good when you're most interested in endgame PvP. =P |
| 07:22.56 | Nechckn | Axil Well, the nice thing is that leveling between 20-60 was made easier- less XP required and more XP per task/quest. |
| 07:23.14 | Axil | oh yeah? that's been done, or coming with the new expansion? |
| 07:23.25 | Nechckn | You'll be slamming folks in the Arena in no time |
| 07:23.31 | Nechckn | It was done in 2.2 |
| 07:23.46 | Nechckn | we're in 2.3 atm, so it's there. |
| 07:24.15 | Nechckn | Oh... maybe 2.1, damn I'm old just go with the knowledge it's there hehehhe |
| 07:25.15 | Axil | ah, that explains why i can actually make a whole level in a night now, lol |
| 07:25.33 | Nechckn | Yeah, it's easier but still decent. |
| 07:26.01 | Nechckn | It was 20% decrease and a variable increase in reward percents |
| 07:26.23 | Nechckn | the biggest thing now are the end game factions, really. that is what takes the longest now. |
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| 07:27.18 | Nechckn | KK all.. I'm off for a bit- hope to see you around here and the boards ;-) |
| 07:27.35 | Axil | later, have a good one |
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| 07:57.27 | biglulz | gearing takes a while too =/ |
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| 11:58.36 | *** topic/#norganna is AuctioneerAdvanced and AuctioneerClassic current rev.2823 (check back often) || AuctioneerAdvanced in Alpha || Gatherer 3.0.4 (WoW 2.3.3) Released! || http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl & http://gathereraddon.com/dl || Post bugs on Jira or http://norganna.pastey.net/ || General WoW chatter in #WoWI-Lounge || Uploads to http://norganna.org/up (if asked) || Patience, my young padawan...'' |
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| 12:32.10 | norgjira | Bug 03EBRK-5 10Luke1410: barker still barking ring enchants06 (Needs Info) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/EBRK-5 |
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| 16:18.52 | mattbnr | hello |
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| 17:46.45 | nomi | hey guys |
| 17:46.55 | RockSlice | hey |
| 17:46.58 | nomi | i need help w/ the seetings for this addon |
| 17:47.22 | RockSlice | this addon being? |
| 17:47.34 | nomi | auctioneer |
| 17:47.41 | RockSlice | classic or advanced? |
| 17:47.50 | nomi | idk what i have |
| 17:48.09 | nomi | actully i have advanced |
| 17:48.15 | RockSlice | k |
| 17:48.25 | RockSlice | what do you want the setting for? |
| 17:48.37 | nomi | it was showing me items i could resale for profit but now its not |
| 17:48.56 | RockSlice | those settings are in btmscan |
| 17:49.11 | nomi | idk what to do |
| 17:49.45 | RockSlice | first, make sure your reserve amount is low enough (if you have <reserve, btmscan won't suggest anything) |
| 17:49.57 | RockSlice | have you used btmscan before? |
| 17:50.13 | nomi | no not really |
| 17:50.51 | nomi | reserve is set to 1broze |
| 17:50.58 | RockSlice | ok. with btmscan, it will look for deals on any items you browse through (or scan through) |
| 17:51.28 | RockSlice | you use the evaluators to tell btmscan what sort of bargains to look for |
| 17:51.36 | nomi | yep |
| 17:52.30 | nomi | in the BTM window it says "BTM is now Scanning" |
| 17:52.30 | RockSlice | (appraiser and resale are almost identical, but appraiser takes the price from what's set on the Appraiser tab) |
| 17:52.30 | nomi | but it don't show me any bargins |
| 17:52.31 | RockSlice | start a regular scan |
| 17:52.37 | nomi | how do i start a regular scan? |
| 17:52.48 | RockSlice | on the browse panel, click the play button |
| 17:53.33 | nomi | yep it's scanning now |
| 17:53.49 | RockSlice | ok |
| 17:54.17 | nomi | how do i make it so it'll give show me items for resale profit? |
| 17:54.36 | RockSlice | you would use the appraiser evaluator |
| 17:56.45 | nomi | what do i do in appraiser evaluator? |
| 17:57.16 | RockSlice | set the minimum profit you want on items, as well as how much of a discount there needs to be |
| 17:57.57 | RockSlice | also, you can set a minimum seen count (which would mean you won't get results until you've scanned for a few days/weeks) |
| 17:58.38 | RockSlice | minimum seen count basically insures that the price is somewhat reliable before you rely on it |
| 17:59.13 | RockSlice | for some quick coin, you can also use the vendor evaluator, which looks for items that you can sell to a vendor for profit |
| 18:00.08 | RockSlice | typically, 1c minimum profit and 1% minimum discount are good settings for vendor |
| 18:03.16 | nomi | it was showing me items yesterday i could resale for profit |
| 18:03.23 | nomi | resale on AH for profit |
| 18:03.29 | nomi | but now it won't |
| 18:03.35 | nomi | do u see what i'm saying? |
| 18:03.39 | RockSlice | ah |
| 18:04.13 | RockSlice | it's possible someone else with auctioneer got to the deals right before you |
| 18:04.52 | nomi | no it's been like this since yesterday. idk i was messing up w/ seetings and then it stopped showing items |
| 18:05.08 | nomi | now i deleted it reinstalled and it still won't show |
| 18:06.11 | RockSlice | can you take screenshots of the following btmscan config panels: general, appraiser, resale |
| 18:06.44 | RockSlice | (you can use norganna.org/up to upload them, then you can link to them here) |
| 18:08.02 | nomi | ok |
| 18:10.46 | nomi | like where should i upload? |
| 18:11.04 | RockSlice | (you can use norganna.org/up to upload them, then you can link to them here) |
| 18:13.29 | nomi | http://norganna.org/up/?view=9nshMt/BTM%20Appraiser.bmp |
| 18:15.00 | nomi | http://norganna.org/up/?view=Jw2u4s/BTM%20General.bmp |
| 18:16.10 | Grum | kek .bmp |
| 18:16.27 | RockSlice | there's at least one of your problems. Your maximum price is 1c, which means Btmscan won't suggest anything larger than that |
| 18:16.45 | nomi | http://norganna.org/up/?view=FkXTeO/BTM%20ReSale.bmp |
| 18:16.51 | RockSlice | any reason you're uploading bmps? WoW saves screenshots as JPEGs |
| 18:17.22 | nomi | oh i pasted in paint >< |
| 18:17.38 | nomi | sorry |
| 18:17.46 | Grum | kik |
| 18:17.52 | RockSlice | for future reference, there should be a Screenshots folder in your WoW directory |
| 18:18.02 | nomi | ok lol thx :) |
| 18:18.03 | RockSlice | much easier |
| 18:18.18 | nomi | ok now what do i need to do? |
| 18:18.41 | RockSlice | you need to turn up the maximum price on the General tab |
| 18:20.08 | nomi | uhhhh there we go! thank you soo much :) |
| 18:20.22 | RockSlice | np |
| 18:20.43 | nomi | how do i change for potential profit? |
| 18:21.53 | nomi | yesterday i ran the general scan 2 times. but today i deleted the auctioneer. |
| 18:21.58 | RockSlice | currently you're using resale, so you'd set the minimum price higher |
| 18:22.05 | nomi | i kept the back up from yesterday |
| 18:22.35 | nomi | what should i do, just copy and paste the folders in the addons again? |
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| 18:22.53 | RockSlice | no. the settings aren't stored there |
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| 18:23.12 | RockSlice | the settings are stored in WTF/Account/<you>/SavedVariables |
| 18:24.30 | nomi | what about the scan data? |
| 18:24.35 | RockSlice | same |
| 18:24.45 | nomi | oh ok |
| 18:24.59 | nomi | thank you very much |
| 18:25.07 | nomi | do a lot of people use acutioneer? |
| 18:25.13 | RockSlice | are you seeing suggestions? |
| 18:25.17 | RockSlice | yes |
| 18:31.01 | nomi | hehe figured |
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| 21:24.12 | norgjira | New Feature 03BTMS-94 10testlek: Snatch: Provide appraiser values if available in GUI06 (In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BTMS-94 |
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| 22:02.27 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: 03testleK * r2864 10BtmScan/EvalSnatch.lua: |
| 22:02.27 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: (BTMS-94) SNATCH UI: Added appraiser value column - Only shows this column if you have both advanced and appraiser installed else this column is not shown to allow classic compatibility. |
| 22:02.27 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: No way to configure which value its using I used the most logical values, starts |
| 22:02.27 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: with buyout if available, if not uses bid price, if bid not available it will |
| 22:02.28 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: display 'not available'... uses market matched values if enabled on that item. |
| 22:06.11 | norgjira | New Feature 03BTMS-94 10testlek: Snatch: Provide appraiser values if available in GUI06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BTMS-94 |
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| 22:39.24 | Dezzimal | does findmaterial not work yet with enchantrix? |
| 22:41.33 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: 03testleK * r2865 10BtmScan/EvalSnatch.lua: (BTMS-94) SNATCH UI: fixed / prevented possible error that could happen by including tonumber code to my itemid's against GetAppraiserValue (prevents any spaces or letters accidently getting passed on) |
| 22:43.59 | Dezzimal | ah I see...need the item ID lol |
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| 23:58.10 | norgjira | Improvement 03BTMS-20 10testlek: Allow the display of raw AH Fee information in Item ToolTip06 (In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BTMS-20 |
