| 00:03.52 | MentalPower | you use a wacom tablet? |
| 00:08.02 | testleK | yeah :) |
| 00:08.12 | MentalPower | are they good? |
| 00:08.14 | testleK | graphire 4 is what I have |
| 00:08.18 | MentalPower | I was thinking of buying one |
| 00:08.41 | testleK | I love it (I have hand/wrist issues so regular mice don't work well for me) |
| 00:08.59 | testleK | Its a pain to get running right in linux tho :-) |
| 00:09.58 | testleK | I'm actually going to be getting a second here soon so that I don't have to move this one between systems |
| 00:11.05 | MentalPower | I would use it for photoshop, drawing with the mouse is not exactly easy |
| 00:12.59 | testleK | lol, I don't do graphics myself (at all) but I would imagine this would work very well for it, its almost as good as a pencil (and if I took the time to configure it a bit more in my xorg file it would probably be more accurate) |
| 00:12.59 | norgjira | Improvement 03BCNT-114 10kandoko: Merge stack and starting bid info from postedAuctions DB to the completedAuctions DB.06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-114 |
| 00:12.59 | norgjira | Bug 03BCNT-116 10kandoko: The addon misrecords all new bids/buyouts placed when reading the mail. Leading to errors when sorting.06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-116 |
| 00:12.59 | norgjira | Improvement 03BCNT-115 10kandoko: Merge stack and starting bid info from postedBids and pstedBuyouts DB's to the completedBids/Buyouts DB.06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-115 |
| 00:13.00 | norgjira | Improvement 03GATH-37 10Esamynn: Gatherer.Storage.ClosestNodes() is very inefficient06 (In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/GATH-37 |
| 00:13.02 | norgjira | Improvement 03BCNT-117 10kandoko: Update the failedAuctions table to store bid, buy, and deposit costs. No longer needs to reconcile on search with postedAuctions.06 (In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-117 |
| 00:13.05 | norgjira | Bug 03BCNT-118 10kandoko: Due to an error in the French localization, no auction records are recorded06 (In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-118 |
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| 00:29.33 | Legorol | I'd been playing around with AA all day today, learning its ins and outs, and I must say it's pretty spiffy :) Got a couple of questions as a result |
| 00:30.05 | Legorol | In Appraiser's options, under the "starting bid calculation" section, what's the purpose of the "subtract deposit cost" option? |
| 00:30.28 | Legorol | I mean i understand what it does, but *why* would anyone want to do that? I don't see the market economical reasoning behind the option |
| 00:36.05 | testleK | Legorol: its subtracting the cost to re-post it on the ah prior to calcing min profit requirement so it can give you a more-accurate figure for potential profit if used |
| 00:36.30 | testleK | oh wait |
| 00:36.39 | testleK | I think I was thinking of something else lol |
| 00:36.44 | Legorol | i was just about to say that's a different option :) |
| 00:36.52 | testleK | your talking about subtracting it from the bid amount |
| 00:36.55 | Legorol | and that option is in btscammener's various evaluators' configuration |
| 00:36.56 | testleK | ~lart testleK |
| 00:36.56 | purl | whips testleK with a wet and grimy noodle just because |
| 00:37.02 | Legorol | yes i am |
| 00:37.11 | Legorol | *btscanner, lol |
| 00:37.15 | testleK | heh |
| 00:37.46 | testleK | ok I can't answer that it hasn't made sense to me either // option toggled off in my copy :) |
| 00:38.22 | Legorol | i spent 10 minutes thinking about it today actually.. |
| 00:38.33 | Legorol | and the only semi-logical reason i could think of that even came close was this: |
| 00:38.50 | Legorol | if your item gets won by being bid on it, you are guaranteed to get back your deposit cost |
| 00:39.08 | Legorol | so you might as well lower the price by that amount, as you don't need to try to offset potential relisting costs |
| 00:39.13 | Legorol | but even that doesn't quite make sense |
| 00:39.39 | Legorol | ok, an entirely different question then: |
| 00:40.17 | testleK | that makes sense on a very high level but when drilling it down it really makes no sense to have that small of a variance in bid to buy out figures IMHO, but then again my bid and buyout are always the same I don't have lower bid amounts its buy or nothing |
| 00:40.19 | Legorol | is it just me, or is Appraiser's "market matching" adjustment can actually sometimes sell the item *above* market value? |
| 00:41.00 | testleK | yes it can, there are two market matchers, BeanCount, and UnderCut and both have the ability to price over market depending on the situation |
| 00:41.20 | Legorol | ok |
| 00:41.24 | Legorol | next question: |
| 00:41.30 | testleK | BeanCount will raise / lower by a percentage based on beancounters failure or success rate |
| 00:41.54 | Legorol | the Appraiser-calculated value of an item (when listed in teh tooltip), does it include market matching adjustment? |
| 00:42.05 | testleK | undercut will lower it if within range of your undercut settings else raise it (both can be configured very well in the options) |
| 00:42.17 | Legorol | i'm not referring to the Appraiser-driven valuation, but instead the first line in the tooltip (the Appraiser-calculated value of the item) |
| 00:43.19 | testleK | right, you are welcome to add a jira for that because it should be an option to show the matched price --- That particular issue has bothered me for a bit but I never really said anything about it :) |
| 00:44.33 | Legorol | so i take that as a "no" |
| 00:44.56 | Legorol | this results in an interesting effect: |
| 00:45.01 | testleK | yeah it does not return the market 'matched' value I have noticed |
| 00:45.23 | Legorol | i am showing both Appraiser values in the tooltip: the Appraiser-calculated value, and the Appraiser valuation (as used by btmscanner) |
| 00:45.56 | Legorol | when i toggle market matching on and off for a particular item, theh first value stays fixed, but the 2nd value varies, since i have "use market matching" turned on in the Appraiser valuator in btmscanner |
| 00:47.04 | Legorol | i must say i really love the options and the modularity and how it all mostly makes sense |
| 00:47.09 | testleK | The one at the bottom is returned by BTM and BTM adds the name Appraiser to it so thats why that self adjusts properly for you whereas the top one doesn't because appraiser itself, along with that line, was implemented long before the ability to use the match in the evaluator |
| 00:47.17 | Legorol | i mostly had a breeze understanding what each of the options do |
| 00:47.26 | testleK | it just hasn't been brought up to date with that feature |
| 00:47.30 | Legorol | right |
| 00:47.47 | Legorol | there was an interesting point earlier in the after but RockScale answered that already for me |
| 00:47.54 | testleK | Thats good to hear, it can be overwhelming if you don't look at it bit by bit |
| 00:48.10 | Legorol | well i like to understand things in-depth |
| 00:48.28 | Legorol | and y es it's overwhelming if you want to grasp it at once, but somehow the configuration screens are so nicely modularised that it's not overwhelming |
| 00:48.37 | Legorol | at least to me |
| 00:49.14 | Legorol | there were a few non-obvious things, but they were really subtle and probably wouldn't have bothered most people |
| 00:49.27 | testleK | Aye, I like to understand it vs just accept its working right (which began the long road to me putting time in here :) ) |
| 00:49.43 | Legorol | but there is one tthing that woudl be great, i might make a ticket about thsi: |
| 00:49.53 | Legorol | btmscanner shouldn't have Resale valuator turned on by default |
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| 00:50.13 | Legorol | since it has both Resale and Appraiser valuators turned on by default |
| 00:50.20 | testleK | your right, no evaluator should be on be default at all (to my understanding) |
| 00:50.33 | Legorol | i disagree, that doesn't give a good "out of the box" experience |
| 00:50.47 | Legorol | having Appraiser valuator turned on with its default settings is fine, those are very safe settings |
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| 00:50.56 | Legorol | and allows user to start using it without having to configure/understand |
| 00:51.22 | testleK | Resale actually is nolonger needed at all anymore as and should be depreciated- Appraiser being its replacement |
| 00:51.32 | Legorol | i understand |
| 00:51.39 | Legorol | but a person may not be running Appraiser |
| 00:51.45 | Legorol | in which case you need Resale as a simplified version |
| 00:54.03 | CIA-27 | auctioneer: 03kandoko * r2821 10BeanCounter/BeanCounterMail.lua: |
| 00:54.04 | CIA-27 | auctioneer: Continues BCNT-117 |
| 00:54.04 | CIA-27 | auctioneer: Corrects string expected got nil errors when removing an expired auction mail. |
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| 01:38.35 | CIA-27 | auctioneer: 03kandoko * r2822 10BeanCounter/BeanCounterMail.lua: |
| 01:38.35 | CIA-27 | auctioneer: Continues BCNT-117 |
| 01:38.35 | CIA-27 | auctioneer: Corrects removing an expired auction mail causing math errors. |
| 01:38.35 | CIA-27 | auctioneer: Its fixed, really, 100%, A-Ok, Gold Backed, Quality assured...probably. |
| 01:45.03 | buu | Hrm. |
| 01:45.13 | buu | Is there any version of auctioneer that has a sane scanner interface? |
| 01:46.05 | RockSlice | sane? |
| 01:46.35 | RockSlice | and what do you mean by "scanner interface"? |
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| 01:47.54 | sdouble | I just broke out the EnchantMats evaluator and am quite pleased |
| 01:47.59 | sdouble | never used it before |
| 01:48.13 | sdouble | Also RockSlice, I'm having freezing with 2819 on the getall |
| 01:48.32 | Legorol | RockSlice, welcome back :) |
| 01:48.50 | buu | RockSlice: I just want to be able to say 'look for all runecloth at less than 10 silver a piece' =/ |
| 01:49.00 | sdouble | use snatch |
| 01:49.02 | buu | RockSlice: Then perhaps I could create an aggregate of those |
| 01:49.10 | RockSlice | sdouble: what are your CompactUI and btmscan statuses? |
| 01:49.22 | sdouble | compactui is off and not using btmscan |
| 01:49.28 | MentalPower | ah shit... compactui... |
| 01:49.30 | MentalPower | forgot that one |
| 01:49.44 | RockSlice | at what point is it freezing? |
| 01:50.13 | sdouble | the scanning progress bar is fully grey, then it freezes up |
| 01:51.11 | RockSlice | ok. what happens then is we release our hold on other addons, and let them take a whack at the GetAll page. Do you have any other addons running? |
| 01:51.56 | sdouble | nope |
| 01:52.11 | RockSlice | hmm |
| 01:52.31 | RockSlice | and it's definitely a freeze and not a kick? |
| 01:52.35 | sdouble | yep |
| 01:52.50 | sdouble | when I talked to you the other day, it started with a kick, then freezing |
| 01:52.50 | RockSlice | oh, wait. fully grey. that means empty |
| 01:52.54 | sdouble | I only get freezing now |
| 01:53.03 | buu | Do you really have to configure these things with slash commands?! |
| 01:53.28 | Legorol | nope, buu |
| 01:53.29 | RockSlice | buu: for Snatch list, yes. we haven't added a GUI (yet) |
| 01:53.41 | Legorol | oh sorry misunderstood, nvm me |
| 01:53.45 | buu | RockSlice: =[ |
| 01:54.02 | buu | RockSlice: Ace > you |
| 01:54.08 | Legorol | <3 getall, what are typical times for a full scan for others? |
| 01:54.17 | Legorol | i had a 1 min 34 second getall today |
| 01:55.06 | RockSlice | I've managed a 20 second getall, including processing, but that was only after filling my cache by testing getall 30 times in a row :) |
| 01:55.17 | Legorol | buu: first of all, I don't know how you can compare an AddOn framework/concept (such as Ace) to a person or group of people |
| 01:55.47 | Legorol | secondly, considering the amount of effort these guys put into a wonderful set of addons, and that most of it already has a GUI, I think refraining from such a derogatory statement might be a good idea |
| 01:57.00 | RockSlice | sdouble: how soon after the appearance of the status bar does it freeze? |
| 01:57.31 | Legorol | i might be able to do add to that: |
| 01:57.34 | RockSlice | also, do you have toons on other realms that you can test on? |
| 01:57.42 | Legorol | whilst the status bar is frozen, are you able to run around with your char? |
| 01:57.54 | Legorol | and have you checked the chatframe to see if processing actually finished? |
| 01:58.16 | Legorol | today i had a progress bar that stayed grey, but after 1 min 34 secs the chatframe indicated that the processing was done |
| 01:58.27 | buu | Legorol: I can do all sorts of things, but writing a configuration system that automatically gives you a gui from slash commands is sheer brilliance. |
| 01:58.41 | sdouble | It's pretty quick when it freezes, and I do have some chars on another realm, and my game is frozen, not just the statusbar. |
| 01:58.50 | sdouble | I'll check another character now |
| 01:59.52 | Legorol | buu: except I'm yet to see one that actually got it right, or at least as good as custom-made GUI config screens tailored to the specific options in questions |
| 01:59.55 | Legorol | automation is not always good |
| 02:01.04 | buu | Legorol: But, see the thing is, it's still better than trying to memorize a list of slash commands. |
| 02:01.22 | Legorol | also, note that the Ace solution doesn't just magically transform slash commands into a GUI |
| 02:01.35 | RockSlice | also, Ace has been in developement far longer than our Configator has been, Ace is designed to provide something robust for many addons, while Configator is designed to provide a configurable framework |
| 02:01.36 | Legorol | it requires that the slash commands have a certain well-defined structure |
| 02:02.02 | buu | This is true, but how is that a bad thing? |
| 02:02.05 | Legorol | there is no such thing as "oh look, this addon has slash commands, i will automatically convert them to a GUI" |
| 02:02.15 | Legorol | which is what you implied ;-) |
| 02:02.32 | buu | Weeeeeeeelll. |
| 02:02.44 | buu | That sort of configuration strikes me as something that is best data-driven. |
| 02:02.55 | buu | It seems odd to avoid such a model, whether you are using ace or not. |
| 02:02.57 | sdouble | well, it worked perfectly on the other realm. Which has no scan data |
| 02:02.58 | Legorol | if the programmer is already using some kind of hierarchy or structure for the slash commands, then converting it to a GUI later should be less time consuming anyway |
| 02:03.47 | Legorol | what i am trying to say is that the real "magic" is in coming up with a structured, organized means of configuring the addon on an abstract level |
| 02:03.47 | RockSlice | sdouble: what are the sizes of the two AHs? |
| 02:04.01 | Legorol | the simplest practical implementation is slash commands, but the real substance is not in that |
| 02:04.46 | buu | Legorol: I suppose, but such a development doesn't seem excessively onerous or beyond the bounds of most development. |
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| 02:05.22 | Legorol | which is presumably why eventually all the slash commands in the auctioneer suite will be made into a GUI too |
| 02:05.56 | Legorol | also, consider priorities and being able to release a functioning product early to users with inferior configuration interface, as opposed to not releasing it at all |
| 02:06.07 | sdouble | both over 13k items |
| 02:06.09 | RockSlice | plus, having a separate system allows the devs to have slash commands that aren't immediately visible to the users :) |
| 02:06.20 | RockSlice | sdouble: about the same size? |
| 02:06.43 | sdouble | yeah, I'm confirming now |
| 02:09.18 | buu | Legorol: In any case, this snatch command will make bottom scanner popup boxes for whatever I specify? |
| 02:09.42 | sdouble | tried the getall on the character it worked with and it's frozen again |
| 02:09.44 | RockSlice | buu: as long as you have the snatch evaluator turned on |
| 02:09.57 | RockSlice | sdouble: :( |
| 02:10.03 | buu | RockSlice: Hrm. |
| 02:10.05 | sdouble | but the scan finished, it's just frozen after the stats are listed |
| 02:10.22 | buu | RockSlice: Does that apply to both 'auctioneer' and 'auctioneer' classic? |
| 02:10.41 | RockSlice | buu: it applies to btmscan |
| 02:11.47 | buu | Oh. Hrm. |
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| 02:19.53 | sdouble | I adjusted the getallspeed down to 100 just to see and I get the same thing |
| 02:20.06 | sdouble | Looks like it only freezes up on me when there's already scan data |
| 02:21.28 | buu | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:23.30 | RockSlice | sdouble: can you rename your auc-scandata.lua SV file to check that, please? |
| 02:23.45 | RockSlice | (you won't lose any price data) |
| 02:23.49 | sdouble | sure thing |
| 02:24.22 | sdouble | but the other character I tried it on hasn't been logged into since I reinstalled wow so there was no scandata file for that one |
| 02:25.06 | RockSlice | well, if it's having scan data, deleting/renaming should make it work for the first one again (at least once) |
| 02:25.39 | sdouble | Yeah, that's what happened on the other character. Worked first time, froze up the next. Trying on my normal char now |
| 02:37.09 | sdouble | this time it just froze up on the first shot |
| 02:37.31 | RockSlice | so not the scandata |
| 02:38.06 | sdouble | doesn't seem like it. I also renamed the whole account directory and tried it with the same result |
| 02:39.53 | RockSlice | can you try loading without auctioneer or any other addons, and try /script QueryAuctionItems("", "", "", nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, true) ? |
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| 02:40.51 | sdouble | I've played around with that as well and it loads the whole AH as it should |
| 02:42.19 | RockSlice | hmm. can you try loading parts of AucAdv one at a time, (starting with just the libs and Auc-Advanced, nothing else), and see when it breaks? |
| 02:42.29 | sdouble | absolutely |
| 02:46.07 | RockSlice | tyvm |
| 02:48.31 | sdouble | I do get a warning: Overwriting AucScanData with AucAdvancedScanSimpleData |
| 02:48.51 | RockSlice | predictable, and normal |
| 02:48.57 | sdouble | okay |
| 02:49.13 | sdouble | that worked fine on it's own |
| 02:49.40 | sdouble | should I add the Auc:ScanData next? |
| 02:49.54 | RockSlice | either that or Auc-DB |
| 02:52.43 | sdouble | works with Auc:Database |
| 02:52.52 | RockSlice | yay! |
| 02:53.12 | sdouble | trying with ScanData too |
| 02:54.26 | sdouble | works with that, but this is with the new scandata.lua |
| 02:54.46 | sdouble | I'll switch to my old, rather large SV with only the same addons enables |
| 02:54.48 | sdouble | enabled |
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| 02:56.58 | RYABN | HI YALL I NeED Sum help On My Auctioneer MOD CAN NE 1 HELP ME ? |
| 02:57.23 | RockSlice | try again without caps |
| 02:57.31 | RYABN | lol sry |
| 02:57.40 | RockSlice | (and grammer and spelling help, too) |
| 02:58.38 | RYABN | can ne 1 help me with my Auctioneer Mod ... ... Man I feel Like im back in school again |
| 02:59.36 | RockSlice | what's the issue? |
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| 03:00.48 | sdouble | tried it with the same addons enabled and with my normal SV files, disconnected |
| 03:01.14 | RYABN | Ne Ways I ?<Item> in the guild chat and everything comes up however it says never seen in the amanthul Auction House When I know it has and the scan has picked it up b/f How do i Update it ? |
| 03:01.57 | RockSlice | if you whispet ?<item> to yourself, do you get a response? |
| 03:02.04 | RYABN | Yes |
| 03:02.41 | RockSlice | what's probably happening is that someone else in the guild has Auctioneer as well, and they got picked (randomly) by Auctioneer as the one to respond |
| 03:03.30 | RockSlice | askprice responses now "swarm", meaning that the reply is an averaged value from all the auctioneer-users in the guild |
| 03:03.45 | RYABN | ... The Person does but even when im the responde it says " never seen In Amanthul Auction House " |
| 03:04.54 | RockSlice | can you take a screenshot with that response as well as the tooltip of the item in question? (in one image) |
| 03:05.16 | Rosslighter | I think so H/o |
| 03:06.33 | Darkrift411 | Would it be possible to make a bottom scanner feature that lets you "middle scan" (scan everything that bottom and top scanner doesnt do) |
| 03:07.08 | sn0n | :: tears :: |
| 03:07.26 | RockSlice | umm... you mean doing repeated full scans one after another? |
| 03:07.27 | sn0n | AuctAdv still messy / unuseable.. :: pouty lips :: |
| 03:07.29 | RockSlice | and why? |
| 03:07.47 | Darkrift411 | i mean just go thru the whole ah instead of just first and last pages |
| 03:08.04 | Darkrift411 | becaues im always finding good deals in the middle, and i like bottom scanners box that pops up telling me what it found |
| 03:08.29 | Darkrift411 | so i have to start the scan, and manually force it to go to each page and hope i dont wait too long to press the button or it goes back to the start or end |
| 03:08.32 | RockSlice | do a full scan, then run btmscan |
| 03:08.50 | RockSlice | rather, full scan with btmscan active |
| 03:08.55 | Darkrift411 | hrmmmm |
| 03:09.01 | Darkrift411 | never though of that |
| 03:09.14 | RockSlice | :) thankfully the devs did |
| 03:09.37 | sn0n | im about to pay 1,000g price to get Auctioneer Advanced working |
| 03:09.37 | sn0n | lol |
| 03:09.48 | sn0n | aka : 49.99 donation |
| 03:09.56 | Darkrift411 | wow |
| 03:10.01 | Darkrift411 | what problems are you having? |
| 03:10.03 | sn0n | maybe that will help make a stable release come out |
| 03:10.09 | sn0n | uhmmm.. Auctioneer works |
| 03:10.10 | RockSlice | sn0n: define "working" and "messy"? |
| 03:10.14 | Darkrift411 | im using the dev version, and its working great |
| 03:10.20 | sn0n | from a fresh AddOns folder |
| 03:10.23 | sdouble | only problem I've experienced is the getall |
| 03:10.34 | sn0n | but Auctioneer Advanced twinks the layout soo bad its unuseable |
| 03:10.37 | sn0n | or wont load at all |
| 03:10.41 | Rosslighter | OK where do u want me 2 put the Page of the PIC |
| 03:11.09 | MentalPower | Rosslighter: http://norganna.org/up |
| 03:11.11 | RockSlice | sn0n: go to the options, under Util Modules-CompactUI, and disable CompactUI |
| 03:11.22 | Darkrift411 | is there a channel where i could find some metamap help? you guys seem to know the places to go for stuff like that |
| 03:11.34 | sn0n | ok, i'll try in 15 min. questing right now. hehe |
| 03:11.41 | sdouble | CompactUI is awesome. I love it. |
| 03:12.54 | MentalPower | Darkrift411: you can try #WoWI-Lounge or #WoWAce |
| 03:13.14 | sdouble | also, I trued the getall 3 times with my large scandata SV file and it disconnectes on me everytime. Just libs, Auc-Advaned, Auc:Database, and Auc:ScanData are enabled |
| 03:13.21 | Darkrift411 | ty |
| 03:13.34 | sdouble | go to the the first |
| 03:13.45 | sdouble | #wowace will chase you out because you aren't using Cartographer |
| 03:14.19 | MentalPower | sdouble: unlikely |
| 03:14.27 | RockSlice | sdouble: rename the large scandata SV, and let me know if the problem returns after 3-4 getalls |
| 03:14.40 | Rosslighter | OK File Sent |
| 03:14.49 | RockSlice | Rosslighter: what's the url? |
| 03:14.50 | MentalPower | they will just tell you to use cartographer :P |
| 03:14.59 | sdouble | heh, same thing. =P |
| 03:15.00 | MentalPower | Rosslighter: whats the... RockSlice got it |
| 03:15.07 | sdouble | I prefer Cartographer by far |
| 03:15.45 | Rosslighter | H/o waiting on it 2 send working on 2 tabs ... |
| 03:17.04 | Rosslighter | Sry its being SUper SLow :( |
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| 03:22.11 | Rosslighter | Did yall get the file ? |
| 03:22.25 | RockSlice | you need to post the link here |
| 03:23.11 | Rosslighter | http://norganna.org/up/C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\Document.rtf .... Like That ? |
| 03:23.37 | RockSlice | when you uploaded it, it gave you a web address |
| 03:23.40 | RockSlice | we need that |
| 03:24.51 | Rosslighter | http://norganna.org/up/?link=oImekI/Document.rtf |
| 03:25.11 | Rosslighter | That right lo l |
| 03:26.09 | RockSlice | yes, but better would have been to just upload the pic by itself, not in an rtf |
| 03:26.31 | sdouble | probably pasted into the rtf instead of paint or whatever he has |
| 03:26.45 | sdouble | people do that to me all the time. paste their screenshot into word. |
| 03:26.56 | RockSlice | PrtScn puts a jpg into the Screenshot directory |
| 03:27.01 | Rosslighter | yeea thats wat i did sry |
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| 03:27.53 | Rosslighter | so i canload a ps straight as if it coming from c file ... |
| 03:28.32 | Kandoko | That's ok, what does the tootip say when you click that link? |
| 03:29.05 | Kandoko | The one in game you asked yourself about :) |
| 03:29.31 | Rosslighter | KK |
| 03:30.55 | Rosslighter | Let Me SEND U THIS PIC ,,, Its Got What it Says When CLicked |
| 03:34.44 | sdouble | hey RockSlice, I switched back to my main SV file and it worked this time, no disconnects or freezing |
| 03:35.37 | sdouble | many changes in the AH too |
| 03:39.32 | sdouble | odd, just enabled all the rest of auctioneer and it worked fine again |
| 03:39.47 | RockSlice | woot! |
| 03:39.57 | Rosslighter | SRy this is the best i can do i dont kno how 2 load it just from THE PRNT SCRN area .... http://norganna.org/up/?link=G7BWJn/Document.rtf |
| 03:40.24 | sdouble | Rosslighter in your world of warcraft/Screenshots directory is a the screenshot you took |
| 03:40.28 | sn0n | rtf for a pic?? |
| 03:40.29 | MentalPower | Rosslighter: did you hit printscreen from inside the game? |
| 03:40.36 | MentalPower | sn0n: hush :) |
| 03:40.40 | sdouble | you don't have to paste it into anything, just use the file from that directory |
| 03:41.08 | MentalPower | Rosslighter: if you did, just go into C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Screenshots |
| 03:41.14 | RockSlice | ross, please go to C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Screenshots, and upload the jpg from there |
| 03:41.18 | MentalPower | and there you will find a bunch of files |
| 03:41.18 | RockSlice | grrr. |
| 03:41.22 | sdouble | RockSlice, I double checked. It's definitely the large scandata SV file. I haven't done anything different so I'm at a loss as to why it just worked twice in a row. |
| 03:41.34 | sdouble | yes it failed about 10 times in a row |
| 03:41.38 | sdouble | yet rather |
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| 03:42.04 | sdouble | trying it with btmscan |
| 03:42.18 | sdouble | This would be quite pleasing. |
| 03:42.22 | RockSlice | you might just have gotten enough scans done to flush out the scandata file of some bad data |
| 03:42.24 | jame | can someone help me |
| 03:42.33 | RockSlice | ~asktoask |
| 03:42.33 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 03:42.42 | jame | ok |
| 03:43.24 | jame | I need help on finding the right one to download. I clicked relase version and it didnt work |
| 03:43.41 | Rosslighter | Ok lol Im Loading the Right onw now :) |
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| 03:44.03 | RockSlice | jame: did you get the "Sorry, there are no release quality downloads available at the moment. Please feel free to try our preview downloads for Auctioneer 5" message at the top of the page? |
| 03:44.08 | jame | yes |
| 03:44.46 | sdouble | So, what happened next? |
| 03:44.58 | jame | it said Sorry, there are no release quality downloads available at the moment. Please feel free to try our preview downloads for Auctioneer 5. |
| 03:45.04 | Rosslighter | Ok ... Hopefully this is wat u want http://norganna.org/up/?view=q4Bj71/WoWScrnShot_013108_193303.jpg |
| 03:45.21 | MentalPower | jame: and, what did you think? |
| 03:45.33 | jame | i cant even g et it working |
| 03:45.38 | jame | i downloading it |
| 03:45.43 | jame | and put it in the addons folder |
| 03:45.47 | jame | and it doesnt work |
| 03:45.54 | jame | idk if i am loading it wrong or what |
| 03:46.01 | MentalPower | did you read that sentence? |
| 03:46.08 | RockSlice | which file did you download? |
| 03:46.32 | jame | AuctioneerAdvancedSuite-5.0.PRE.2815.zip |
| 03:46.35 | jame | the first one |
| 03:46.48 | jame | when u click please feel free to try out preview downloads |
| 03:46.53 | MentalPower | Rosslighter: it looks to me like its working as intended |
| 03:47.04 | RockSlice | in your WoW\Interface\Addons folder, what folders are there? |
| 03:47.14 | MentalPower | Rosslighter: Auctioneer has never seen that item, and that is what AskPrice is saying |
| 03:47.16 | sdouble | agreed, it says it's never been seen at the auction house |
| 03:47.47 | jame | umm. 1 sec |
| 03:48.25 | Rosslighter | Ok....I know from Other guildies Sum of the items have been seen Bf |
| 03:48.28 | jame | all sorts of Blizzard_ things |
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| 03:48.46 | sdouble | RockSlice, getall froze wow with btmscan but appears to work okay on it's own |
| 03:48.55 | jame | Blizard_AuctionUL is one of them |
| 03:49.04 | MentalPower | Rosslighter: that might be true, but you're asking yourself about that item, not the guild |
| 03:49.30 | MentalPower | sdouble: what speed setting are you using? |
| 03:49.34 | sdouble | 250 |
| 03:49.55 | sdouble | I lowered it when it was freezing earlier |
| 03:50.33 | Rosslighter | True But ive put things such as < Primal Might > in there which has been seen a nd searched before and it will come up as never seen before |
| 03:50.34 | MentalPower | yup, we just want to know what speeds work for people |
| 03:50.36 | RockSlice | sdouble: at what point did it freeze with btmscan, and did it ever unfreeze? |
| 03:50.59 | MentalPower | Rosslighter: are you whispering yourself for these queries? |
| 03:50.59 | sdouble | never unfroze, I waited for over 5 minutes, and again at the grey scanning progress bar |
| 03:51.16 | Rosslighter | no not all the time ... |
| 03:51.54 | RockSlice | we probably need to put coroutines into BtmScan's code as well... |
| 03:53.11 | sdouble | also, I noticed on SlideBar, there is a search auctions for searching what is currently in your database. Will this be turned into the replacement for the old search auctions tab for deals? |
| 03:53.22 | RockSlice | yes |
| 03:53.58 | MentalPower | Rosslighter: when you ask the guild, does it always say never seen at auction? |
| 03:54.22 | MentalPower | Rosslighter: if so, how many people does it say responded to the query? |
| 03:54.47 | Rosslighter | H/o Take a look at this one its from my guildie then i did it 2 my self but didnt get the same results |
| 03:54.52 | Rosslighter | http://norganna.org/up/?view=Fd1t3X/WoWScrnShot_013108_195518.jpg |
| 03:55.35 | RockSlice | yes. 7 people responded, totalling 212 times seen |
| 03:55.42 | RockSlice | he himself hadn't seen it |
| 03:55.53 | RockSlice | it looks like it's working fine |
| 03:56.08 | Rosslighter | .... The FIRST LINK is My Guildie The Second link followed is me |
| 03:56.11 | Rosslighter | http://norganna.org/up/?view=16NboE/WoWScrnShot_013108_195633.jpg |
| 03:56.26 | RockSlice | you haven't seen it either |
| 03:56.30 | RockSlice | ask in guild |
| 03:56.44 | RockSlice | nvm |
| 03:56.47 | RockSlice | you did |
| 03:56.49 | MentalPower | Rosslighter: thats normal behaviour |
| 03:57.04 | RockSlice | it doesn't get data from other people if you whisper yourself |
| 03:57.13 | MentalPower | you ask in guild you get info from all the people in your guild that run askprice |
| 03:57.16 | MentalPower | you ask yourself you only get data from yourself |
| 03:57.42 | Rosslighter | OK so How DO i begin to Create a data dase 4 myself |
| 03:57.50 | RockSlice | scan the AH |
| 03:57.52 | Rosslighter | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:58.03 | MentalPower | scan the AH |
| 03:58.17 | Rosslighter | I have 2 go 2 an AH 2 do that right |
| 03:58.23 | RockSlice | right |
| 03:58.24 | MentalPower | yes |
| 03:59.15 | Rosslighter | OK TY TYTY Yall were Very helpful And should all work at geek squad if u dont already work ther ee yall r very smart |
| 03:59.16 | sdouble | Just tried getall on btmscan again and the Browse tab shows "Scanning..." in the auction area and the scanning progressbar pops up. After a bit of a wait, the whole AH is populated to the Browse window (showing 1-13748 auctions), then it freezes wow and I have to kill it. |
| 03:59.37 | sdouble | But the regular getall is still working fine for me. |
| 04:00.16 | RockSlice | good. that's what I'm aiming for at this step |
| 04:03.49 | CIA-27 | auctioneer: 03rockslice * r2823 10Auc-Advanced/CoreScan.lua: |
| 04:03.49 | CIA-27 | auctioneer: Continues ADV-166 (GetAll) |
| 04:03.49 | CIA-27 | auctioneer: Reduces the load caused by HasAllData by adding a lookuptable so auctions with owners aren't hammered. |
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| 04:53.54 | sdouble | Does EnchantMats custom level only handle disenchanting for mats? Or for what the raw material's level use is as well? |
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| 05:25.31 | Daede | I'm having an issue with auctioneer. At the end of my daily scan, it takes so long for the data to compile or do whatever it does that wow misses a ping and i get disconnected - every time |
| 05:27.07 | Kandoko | Under general options you can adjust the priority of the auctioner finish. Lower it will take longer but will freeze WoW less. |
| 05:27.19 | Daede | awesome :) |
| 05:27.25 | Kandoko | I think the default is 20 |
| 05:27.52 | Daede | cuz it freezes wow ever time and its gotten tot he point where ive even considered trashing my data and starting over |
| 05:28.05 | Daede | which id really raher not do i have months of awesome data |
| 05:29.15 | Kandoko | This id on Adv btw, Don't believe classic can do that. Anyways Im off to sleepy. |
| 05:29.37 | Daede | oh and just so you guys know, ive dome some figuring, and auctioneer advanced has made me at least 3k gold (casual trading) |
| 05:29.45 | Daede | done* |
| 05:30.22 | Daede | thanks kandoko, you guys are always good for quick, concise help :) keep up the great work |
| 05:30.29 | Phorbie | yeah, I've been using AAdv and it's made me 1k |
| 05:30.39 | Phorbie | also casual |
| 05:30.52 | Daede | yeah im not mch for the buy low sell high |
| 05:31.14 | Daede | stff drops enough that you just dont have to worry about it |
| 05:31.16 | Phorbie | I just go around buying limited quantity items from vendors |
| 05:31.25 | Daede | oh i dont even do that heh |
| 05:31.35 | Daede | i just sell whatever falls into my lap |
| 05:31.41 | Phorbie | yeah |
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| 05:31.53 | Phorbie | well that's pretty nifty |
| 05:32.08 | Phorbie | and...Auctioneer completely FTW |
| 05:32.14 | Daede | :) |
| 05:32.15 | Daede | nah |
| 05:32.18 | Daede | u guys ftw |
| 05:32.34 | Daede | without you all, aadv would just be another complicated addon |
| 05:32.43 | Phorbie | yeah, the developers and programmers try |
| 05:33.17 | Daede | anyways, im outta here.. take it easy, and keep up all the great support |
| 05:33.28 | Phorbie | They are completely awesome about bugs and feature additions |
| 05:33.37 | Daede | heh |
| 05:33.37 | Phorbie | Good night, Daede |
| 05:33.43 | Daede | as it should be |
| 05:33.45 | Daede | l8r |
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| 05:49.04 | *** topic/#norganna by MentalPower -> AuctioneerAdvanced and AuctioneerClassic current rev.2823 (check back often) || AuctioneerAdvanced in Alpha || Gatherer 3.0.4 (WoW 2.3.3) Released! || http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl & http://gathereraddon.com/dl || Post bugs on Jira or http://norganna.pastey.net/ || General WoW chatter in #WoWI-Lounge || Uploads to http://norganna.org/up (if asked) || Patience, my young padawan...'' |
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| 06:28.52 | mattbnr | hey test you on? |
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| 07:15.05 | Phorbie | Can I help you, mattbnr? |
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| 08:08.22 | testleK | dinesh-sleep: Yeah I need to make it remember its location |
| 08:09.49 | testleK | dinesh-sleep: they are actually the same, I should have commented it out before I did that last commit, the one next to prospect is going to return the results of prospecting (except the greys) |
| 08:10.22 | testleK | Was going to get that part in tonight but I had a personal issue come up that I'm still actually handling lol |
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| 10:07.46 | norgjira | Bug 03STUB-7 10vale: Unable to use in-game Petition system06 (Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/STUB-7 |
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| 14:39.31 | Damian | hi there |
| 14:39.55 | tranta | heya all |
| 14:40.22 | tranta | hey anyone know where do i get the db for gather ..for mining |
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| 15:07.41 | norgjira | Bug 03APPR-86 10rockslice: Spacing on Competition table poor, chopping off part of Buy/ea06 (In Progress) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-86 |
| 15:08.12 | CIA-27 | auctioneer: 03rockslice * r2824 10Auc-Util-Appraiser/AprFrame.lua: fixes spacing to show full column of Buy/Ea: APPR-86 |
| 15:10.53 | asser | hmm .. some guy put up one small prismatic shard for 99999g and it has screwed up the market value on that so I'm getting nonsense hits from btmscan/disenchant .. shouldn't the outlier detection detect that? |
| 15:11.30 | asser | (aadv build 2823) |
| 15:11.57 | RockSlice | it should |
| 15:12.52 | RockSlice | is it showing up in your SavedVariable file? |
| 15:13.13 | RockSlice | auc-stat-stddev.lua and auc-stat-simple.lua are the ones to look in |
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| 15:13.36 | asser | cleared stats on it and now it's working .. weird though |
| 15:14.47 | RockSlice | did you make a copy before clearing? |
| 15:15.03 | asser | afraid not |
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| 15:15.55 | RockSlice | as this is a preview product still, any major bugs you encounter (and if the outlier filter isn't working, it's major) are easier to track down if the savedvariables files are preserved |
| 15:16.27 | asser | of course, I'll keep that in mind from now on .. I don't suppose it helps that I haven't logged off yet? |
| 15:16.31 | bonny | I think I found a problem with gatherer 3.0.4 but can't figure out how to submit it |
| 15:16.45 | RockSlice | actually, it does |
| 15:17.05 | RockSlice | bonny, it is an error message? |
| 15:17.47 | RockSlice | asser: go to wtf\Account\<you>\SavedVariables, and make copies of those two files before logging off |
| 15:18.00 | bonny | no, periodically all my spells disappear when I am using only the gatherer addon... but only the ones in my main bar, the attitional side bars are fine |
| 15:18.02 | RockSlice | WoW only saves data on logout |
| 15:18.11 | asser | yep thought so .. copies done |
| 15:18.34 | RockSlice | can you upload them, please? (norganna.org/up) |
| 15:18.40 | RockSlice | (and link here) |
| 15:19.14 | RockSlice | bonny: is it random, or is this associated with performing some action? |
| 15:19.43 | bonny | random |
| 15:20.02 | bonny | its also happened on both of my computers and with different characters |
| 15:20.35 | RockSlice | what is the frequency of this happening? |
| 15:20.54 | bonny | ummm given a 5 hour play time it happens 2 times |
| 15:20.59 | bonny | on average |
| 15:22.07 | RockSlice | by disappear, do you mean that the castbar empties, and you have to manually put each one back, that it switches, or that the entire UI display hides? |
| 15:22.21 | bonny | the castbar empties |
| 15:23.47 | bonny | but if I log out and log back in they are all back again, only to disappear within 15 min again, so I manually put everything back |
| 15:23.47 | RockSlice | and you're only running Gatherer? nothing else? |
| 15:23.47 | bonny | nothing else |
| 15:24.35 | norgjira | Bug 03APPR-86 10rockslice: Spacing on Competition table poor, chopping off part of Buy/ea06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-86 |
| 15:26.21 | asser | RockSlice: http://norganna.org/up/show.php/7mpuF3/auc-stat-simple.lua and http://norganna.org/up/show.php/2BpTUY/auc-stat-stddev.lua |
| 15:27.18 | RockSlice | can you try going into WTF\Account\<you>\SavedVariables and renaming gatherer.lua? (rename - do not delete) |
| 15:27.19 | asser | you should probably know I was scanning with 2662 then upgraded to 2823 after getting the wrong stats, and re-scanned .. didn't log off after upgrading to 2823 |
| 15:27.41 | RockSlice | and see if the problem persists? |
| 15:28.42 | bonny | RockSlice, what that advice for me or for asser? |
| 15:28.53 | asser | for you I think |
| 15:29.07 | RockSlice | bonny |
| 15:30.14 | RockSlice | asser: can you go into your AucAdv settings, and doublecheck that your Outlier Filter is enabled? |
| 15:30.38 | bonny | m'kay, and if it doesn't work, is there any files I need to copy and submit? I ask this as I'm usally really into the game and don't want to stop playing to find a specific site to upload... |
| 15:31.41 | asser | RockSlice: it is enabled but only for poor/common/uncommon items |
| 15:31.41 | RockSlice | bonny: if that doesn't work, it's not a savedvariable problem, so no |
| 15:32.13 | bonny | ok. thanks for the help, if it happens again i'll get in here and let someone know |
| 15:32.16 | RockSlice | asser: ok. that would explain how it got into the stats modules then |
| 15:32.59 | asser | yea I guess so .. does this only happen if the outlier is the first thing a scan sees? |
| 15:33.53 | RockSlice | the shard was blue, so wasn't protected by the outlier filter |
| 15:34.43 | asser | but when I cleared the data for the shard and rescanned (on shards only) the outlier didn't seem to have an impact on the stats |
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| 15:35.03 | RockSlice | was it still posted? |
| 15:35.11 | asser | yep |
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| 15:35.38 | RockSlice | actually, that's because AucAdvanced only passes new auctions to the stats modules |
| 15:35.55 | asser | oh okay |
| 15:35.57 | RockSlice | and because it had been seen already, it didn't enter into stats |
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| 15:36.04 | RockSlice | (saves processing time) |
| 15:36.45 | asser | well thanks for the information, guess I have to decide if I want the outlier filter for blues now :) |
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| 19:11.36 | sdouble | [09:36] <@RockSlice> and because it had been seen already, it didn't enter into stats <- speaking of that, how does auctioneer know it's already been seen? Is it tracked by a combination of seller/item/qty of item/bid/buyout/timeleft or is there like an auction ID for each? |
| 19:12.04 | RockSlice | it knows because it's already in the scandata DB |
| 19:12.17 | RockSlice | first one |
| 19:12.31 | RockSlice | we've been begging for an auction ID |
| 19:12.40 | sdouble | yeah, that would be ideal |
| 19:12.49 | RockSlice | Blizzard won't share :( |
| 19:13.35 | sdouble | so if someone posts 10 auctions of the same exact thing and then later post more of the same exact auction, you can't really tell how many times it's been seen |
| 19:13.44 | RockSlice | right |
| 19:13.48 | sdouble | =[ |
| 19:14.02 | sdouble | an auction ID would be so much easier |
| 19:14.12 | RockSlice | unless we're doing a forwards scan or all of them are on one page |
| 19:15.36 | RockSlice | but if it gets bought out quickly and the owner posts another at the same price, we might not see any difference |
| 19:15.47 | sdouble | right |
| 19:15.59 | RockSlice | so stat-Purchased would miss that buyout |
| 19:16.39 | kergoth | i had a question about purchased, it doesnt seem to include stuff i've sold, is that expected? |
| 19:17.38 | RockSlice | I'm not sure. let me look into it a bit more |
| 19:18.16 | sdouble | I assume BtmScan tracks the last bought for X the same was as the auctions themselves are tracked? |
| 19:18.24 | RockSlice | first, what are your filter-basic settings? do you have it set to ignore your auctions? |
| 19:18.39 | sdouble | well, the stuff purchased with btmscan I mean |
| 19:19.07 | RockSlice | btmscan tracks that via itemID |
| 19:20.41 | sdouble | It seems to track stacks separately. Even if I buy 2 stacks of 20 wool for different amounts for example, it lists them separately doesn't it? |
| 19:20.50 | RockSlice | kergoth: stat-purchased doesn't care who's auction it was, as long as it disappears from the ScanData image before it was set to expire |
| 19:21.09 | kergoth | ah, okay, i'll check the filter settings when i get home from work |
| 19:28.13 | RockSlice | sdouble: I believe btmscan also uses the item's UniqueID |
| 19:28.44 | sdouble | Oh, I didn't know there was a UniqueID. |
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| 19:29.51 | MentalPower | UniqueID is a misnomer, since its not unique |
| 19:30.38 | RockSlice | stacking sets everything's uniqueID to the uniqueID of one of the items |
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| 20:09.52 | Wamp | Does anyone here you the Baggins / BtmScan combo? |
| 20:09.58 | Wamp | use* |
| 20:11.08 | Wamp | I have the latest AH Adv, Baggins, and Baggins_BtmScan, and it isnt working, How do I activate it? |
| 20:11.33 | kergoth | baggins doesnt create categories and sections and bags for you |
| 20:11.56 | Wamp | So if i make one for "Disenchant"... |
| 20:12.12 | Wamp | will it auto-add the items? |
| 20:12.20 | Wamp | ..based on btmscan |
| 20:12.22 | kergoth | go into edit bags/categories, create a category for btmscan, edit the first rule, choose btmscan and whichever one you want, de, snatch, prospect, blah.. i put them all in seperate categoreis myself, then made a section in my bag that has all of them |
| 20:12.29 | Wamp | ahhhh |
| 20:12.54 | Wamp | thank you very much! |
| 20:12.57 | kergoth | baggins is uberflexible, it wont modify your bags or categories for you, its up to you to construct categories with rules, sections with categories, and bags with sections :) |
| 20:13.00 | kergoth | can be confusing, but its worth it imo |
| 20:13.14 | kergoth | would be nice if more people shared their setups as profiles imo |
| 20:13.15 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:13.38 | Wamp | i couldnt find any info on setup... |
| 20:14.11 | kergoth | i also added an 'ah investments' category to my btmscan section, but the category has no rules by default.. then i alt-rightclick on any items i /manually/ bought to resell and add them to the ah investments category, so they're with the other investments, so i don'th ave to dig for em |
| 20:14.19 | kergoth | dunno if you want something like that, but i found it helpful |
| 20:14.45 | Wamp | thats a good idea |
| 20:25.51 | Wamp | Thanks Kergoth, works great! |
| 20:25.57 | kergoth | np |
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| 20:48.11 | jame | how do i get the auction house format to be the same before i got the addon. like the way the items show up? |
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| 20:50.14 | jame | how do i get the auction house format to be the same before i got the addon. like the way the items show up? |
| 20:50.21 | kergoth | jame: we heard you the first time |
| 20:50.27 | jame | ok didnt know |
| 20:50.27 | kergoth | are you using classic or advanced? |
| 20:50.36 | jame | advanced |
| 20:50.46 | kergoth | try disabling compactui |
| 20:51.45 | jame | i clicked addon and i dont see compactui |
| 20:53.03 | kergoth | "clicked addon"? |
| 20:53.14 | jame | yes in the game on the left |
| 20:54.31 | jame | is that the right spot to do it? |
| 20:55.47 | jame | does anyone know how to disable compactui |
| 20:57.43 | kergoth | mouse over the sidebar thats attached to the edge of the screen, click on the auctioneer icon. compactui is in there in the left tree, you might have to click on the sections which are closed to expand them, then click on compactui |
| 20:57.46 | kergoth | it's not hard to find |
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| 20:59.29 | jame | wow |
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| 22:49.20 | sdouble | [14:59] <jame> wow <-- I wonder if that was a "thanks" or a "thanks for nothing kergoth" |
| 22:49.53 | kergoth | i was wondering that too |
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| 22:50.05 | kergoth | for about 2 seconds, then i remembered that i don't care |
| 22:50.10 | kergoth | :P |
| 22:50.18 | sdouble | I do because I don't want to help someone in the future that acts like that |
| 22:51.26 | sdouble | I used to not care and just do what I could, but after many years in #help on efnet, people have ruined me |
| 22:51.44 | norgjira | Bug 03BCNT-67 10mentalpower: Randomly the MailFrame overlay never goes away.06 (Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-67 |
| 22:51.45 | norgjira | New Feature 03ADV-3 10mentalpower: UI: Port Auctioneer's Search Auctions tab to 5.006 (Reopened) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-3 |
| 22:51.47 | norgjira | New Feature 03BTMS-79 10anaxagoras: Allow shift+click to search the AH for the item btmscan is currently offerint06 (Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BTMS-79 |
| 22:51.50 | norgjira | New Feature 03BTMS-21 10anaxagoras: Enhance BTM to show current snapshot competition for current item, and/or check rest of current page for identical listings06 (Open) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BTMS-21 |
| 22:51.53 | norgjira | Bug 03ENX-24 10person6661067: [White Bandit Mask] changed in patch 2.3 and database doesn't know new version06 (Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ENX-24 |
| 22:51.56 | norgjira | Improvement 03BCNT-119 10anaxagoras: reset button for search form06* (Unconfirmed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/BCNT-119 |
| 22:52.42 | sdouble | I still help, just not to the level I would if they were more appreciative. =] |
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| 23:11.52 | pneumonochrome | Woo-hoo for the getall functionality. It's really slick! |
| 23:13.42 | RockSlice | are you having any problems with it? |
| 23:13.47 | pneumonochrome | None at all. |
| 23:13.57 | RockSlice | good to hear |
| 23:14.24 | pneumonochrome | It takes me maybe 5 seconds to get the AH and do the processing. AAdv does seem to go through it's "Processing" twice, but it goes by so quickly it doesn't bother me. |
| 23:15.53 | RockSlice | do you mean the progress bar fills up twice (which it should, the first time showing "AucAdv: Scanning"), or it shows "AucAdv: Processing" while filling up twice after the scanning? |
| 23:16.21 | pneumonochrome | Three times, actually, the first time "AucAdv: Scanning" then "AucAdv: Processing" twice. |
| 23:16.41 | RockSlice | do you get two scan summaries too? |
| 23:17.00 | pneumonochrome | They go by so fast, I haven't noticed, let me just check my chatlog, just finished one of those scans. |
| 23:17.25 | pneumonochrome | Nope, only one summary. |
| 23:17.44 | RockSlice | hmm |
| 23:18.15 | pneumonochrome | I'm running AA and AC in parallel, that wouldn't make a difference, would it? |
| 23:18.38 | RockSlice | it shouldn't, but it might. ty. I'll have to look into it |
| 23:19.28 | pneumonochrome | No problem, like I said, it works, and no problems, it just seems to go by twice at the end there. Do you know if Blizz's once every 15 minutes rule for getting the whole AH is still in place? |
| 23:20.05 | RockSlice | it is |
| 23:20.46 | pneumonochrome | Okay, I'll wait a few minutes and try again, watching really carefully this time to make sure I'm not just seeing things. |
| 23:23.01 | pneumonochrome | Hrmm. Maybe I was just seeing things, it only did its processing once this time. I'll post in the forums if I see it being weird again, but now that I'm looking again, everything actually looks to be working normally. |
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| 23:30.14 | sdouble | pneumonochrome, have you tried it with BtmScan? |
| 23:30.20 | sdouble | The getall that is |
| 23:30.44 | sdouble | Locks wow up entirely for me |
| 23:30.55 | pneumonochrome | I'm not sure what you mean. I have Btm loaded, but I call it by using /aadv getall |
| 23:31.13 | sdouble | but I haven't tried since last night so I have a version from yesterday |
| 23:31.28 | sdouble | no, you have to actually turn BtmScan on and then do the /aadv getall |
| 23:31.43 | pneumonochrome | I haven't tried that. I could for kicks and giggles. |
| 23:31.45 | sdouble | it would freeze up wow. And if I didn't play in windowed mode, I'd have to hard reset the pc |
| 23:31.59 | pneumonochrome | Weird. |
| 23:32.32 | pneumonochrome | It'll be a few minutes yet before I can pull down the whole AH again, but I'll give it a look when I can. |
| 23:32.45 | sdouble | well, if you log out and back in, the timer is reset |
| 23:32.53 | RockSlice | i recommend switching to windowed mode if you do try it |
| 23:32.53 | sdouble | just so you know in the future. |
| 23:32.58 | sdouble | yeah |
| 23:33.09 | pneumonochrome | Will do. |
| 23:33.36 | pneumonochrome | Is there a way to switch to windowed mode that doesn't require a client restart? |
| 23:33.54 | sdouble | from the video options, it requires restart? |
| 23:34.07 | pneumonochrome | <--It used to, but I haven't tried in a VERY long time |
| 23:34.48 | RockSlice | it doesn't |
| 23:34.58 | pneumonochrome | Nope, it doesn't. Cool |
| 23:37.01 | pneumonochrome | Now if I could just figure out where this Configator error is coming from on one of my computers. |
| 23:37.34 | RockSlice | ~norgbug |
| 23:37.35 | purl | Hi, in order to report your bug here, simply select and copy the text in the Swatter bug details box (use "/swat show" if you've already closed it), and go to http://norganna.pastey.net ; Once you're there, paste your bug into the box, submit and paste the resultant URL into the chat. Thanks! |
| 23:37.46 | RockSlice | configator is our config lib |
| 23:38.48 | pneumonochrome | Aye, I've posted about it on the forums, and can wait for an answer as it's only happening on one compy and not the other, so it isn't a big deal. |
| 23:39.03 | pneumonochrome | As far as using the getall with Btm, yes, it appears to have hung up wow for me. |
| 23:39.11 | pneumonochrome | Wait, no, wow just came back. |
| 23:40.25 | pneumonochrome | So I started btm, the typed /aadv getall. Two progress bars appeared, one said "AucAdv: Scanning" the other, below it, said "AucAdv: Processing". The Processing one zipped right up to full and disappeared, then wow hung up for 15-20seconds. It's come back now, but the "AucAdv:Scanning" bar is still there, and hasn't made any progress. |
| 23:40.56 | sdouble | yeah |
| 23:41.09 | pneumonochrome | Wow seems to be working just fine though. |
| 23:41.26 | sdouble | the first progress bar was to finish what was already on the screen before the getall started |
| 23:41.53 | sdouble | because if you look at the stats, it says whatever amount was on the last page has been scanned |
| 23:42.02 | sdouble | or more if you let it scan the last page a couple times |
| 23:42.06 | RockSlice | do you have btmscan set to refresh? |
| 23:43.07 | pneumonochrome | I'm not sure, actually, and I'm using the computer that I can't open configs properly, let's see if that one works for me. Just a second |
| 23:43.08 | sdouble | and I had it do that once, where wow would work but it wasn't doing what it was supposed to be doing |
| 23:43.13 | sdouble | everyother time was a freeze |
| 23:44.17 | pneumonochrome | Looks like I have "everything on Btm's general options checked except for "Top scan as well as bottom scan" and "Override 'Allow bid on items' when topscanning. |
| 23:48.45 | sdouble | I'm trying now with the latest svn |
| 23:49.40 | RockSlice | what's probably happened is that btmscan switched the page away before AucAdv was done scanning the page :( I'll have to fix that |
| 23:50.06 | sdouble | took about 30 seconds for the entire AH to load, now it's locked again |
| 23:50.20 | sdouble | so should I try it with the refresh off? |
| 23:51.57 | RockSlice | please |
| 23:53.22 | sdouble | 14601 items, scanned, processed, results, asking for bids and buyouts |
| 23:54.03 | RockSlice | yay! |
| 23:54.07 | sdouble | but it has locked up after I clicked no on an auction for about a minute |
| 23:54.07 | RockSlice | so no lockup? |
| 23:54.19 | sdouble | then came up to another btmscan find |
| 23:54.35 | RockSlice | ty |
| 23:54.49 | pneumonochrome | by turning off refresh, do you mean turning off "automatic last page reload"? |
| 23:54.55 | RockSlice | yes |
| 23:55.08 | sdouble | same thing, lags with the window up and a clicked no button for a little bit |
| 23:55.50 | sdouble | also, the progressbar is gone |
| 23:55.51 | pneumonochrome | Okay, so to try this out over here, I click the button to start btm, then issue /aadv getall? |
| 23:56.21 | RockSlice | yes |
| 23:57.03 | sdouble | I'm guessing the lag I get between the bid/buyout window is because it's going through data |
| 23:57.18 | sdouble | looking for the next one to popup |
| 23:57.36 | Nechckn | RockSlice tying scanning... /aadv getall with default options, no BTMS on Kel'T server, which is pretty big.. hit that, then the sucker locks up.. then a Scanning Bar appears with no progress... then locks again... It unlocked for a split second.. then showed the "Processing Bar" and now is showing progress in bits, but is locked up as far as user intervention goes. |
| 23:58.59 | Nechckn | It's now done and unlocked.. and looks ok, but the lockups are a bit trying. |
| 23:59.25 | sdouble | Nechckn, after mine has finished, I get about 1 frame per minute |
| 23:59.41 | sdouble | did you see anything like that? |
| 23:59.44 | Nechckn | I'm up to 30 fps, so I can't complain. |
| 23:59.53 | RockSlice | Nechckn: do you have CompactUI enabled? |
