IRC log for #norganna on 20071120

00:00.06Daedepurl tedrock is in his own little world!
00:00.07purlokay, Daede
00:00.11Daede~tedrock
00:00.12purlmethinks tedrock is in his own little world!
00:00.36Daedeman
00:00.41Daedepurl is just too much fun
00:00.43Sraypurl what else can you do?
00:00.44purlACTION else can you do to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion
00:00.59Sraypurl bend over
00:00.59purlACTION bends over and spreads legs
00:01.03Sraylol
00:01.09tedrockwoah
00:01.13bleeterhey guys, much as I love purl.. could you please take it to privmsg with her. This # is primarily for auctioneer and gatherer support.
00:01.14Daedepurl you slut
00:01.18Daedesure
00:01.20Daedelol
00:01.26Srayok, i'm done
00:01.46Sraystill writing up my document for you guys
00:02.33MentalPower~lart bleeter
00:02.33purlresizes bleeter's terminal to 40x24
00:03.02Daedei remember 40x24
00:03.07Daedeo.@
00:03.18DaedeApple][e ftw
00:03.30RicemanAmiga > Apple II. =P
00:03.37Daedeoh definately
00:03.48tedrocki work for applecare. i hate when OLD people start talking about IIE's and shit
00:03.49Daedesomeone should port wow to the amiga
00:04.10Srayc64>both
00:04.17tedrockthank god i just do wireless multimedia now.
00:04.20Daedetedrock when i was 12 i was fluent in 68k ASM
00:04.33tedrockwhen i was 12 i was downloading porn
00:04.35Daede(tha's Apple][c assembly)
00:04.45RicemanWoW on Amiga? *shudder*
00:04.52tedrockand learning how to make bombs
00:05.06DaedeRiceman, the ][c also bore a 68000
00:05.10Sraywhen i was 9, ...nevermind..not even gonna fight this contest
00:05.21Ricemanyeah, but it was an Apple. =P
00:05.33tedrockall i help people with now is airports and appletvs
00:05.33Daedeye and?
00:06.00tedrockso if you ever call apple tech supprot for a wireless issue you just might be talking to me
00:06.04Daedethe Apple][gs was one of the most advanced computing platforms ever conceived (by way of a competing market)
00:06.21tedrockyou can tell it's me if it's the guy that is speaking like he is extremely annoyed with you
00:06.40RicemanPerhaps so, but it loses by virtue of being associated with its descendant.
00:06.58Daedeits descendant being?
00:07.02Srayummm...i think you might be the only one in existence
00:07.05Ricemanthe current Mac.
00:07.11Daedeye right
00:07.13Sraylol
00:07.26Srayi'm sorry you all...but...mac sucks, bottom line
00:07.42Ricemanaye, agreed, Sray
00:07.44tedrocki don't even own a mac :P
00:07.53tedrockwell i own an old summer 2003
00:07.55Ricemanone-button mouse FTL.
00:08.08tedrockthey don't have one button mice anymore jesus
00:08.19Sraylisa ftl
00:08.32tedrockif you wanna dis mac. bring up the newton
00:08.36Sraylol
00:08.41tedrockthat was total fail
00:08.51RicemanOkay, okay, how about this - iPhone is maximum fail in a can.
00:08.59tedrockyou know what sucks
00:09.01Srayyes, definately
00:09.02Daedewhile earlier versions of MacOS had their faults, it's always been a solid, stable operating system. Apple just went retarded on 3rd party licensing.. we've seen that mistake int echnology at every turn.. betamax vs vhs, VCD vs CD-I (although CD-I was one of the first platforms to introduce VCD).. Sega Master System vs Nintendo Entertainment system
00:09.06tedrockall apple empoyees got iphones
00:09.08tedrockEXCEPT US
00:09.11SrayWAIT
00:09.11tedrockbecause we are in canada
00:09.15RicemanMacOS is just a prettier version of UNIX.
00:09.15SrayWAIT A MINUTE GUYS, SHUSH
00:09.16tedrockno fucking service in canada
00:09.19SrayWHAT DAEDE?
00:09.19Daedeall examples of where superior technology lost out due to poor licensing systems
00:09.27Sraywait a minute daede, hold the phone
00:09.43Daedeand now we see it with DVD-HD vs Blu Ray
00:09.45Sraythe MacOS is stable because it never ran any heavy duty programs lol
00:09.56Daedeyeah cuz photoshop is a walk int he park
00:09.58Daedesit.
00:09.58tedrockSray: because there are none :)
00:09.58Sraya toaster is stable until you try and fit a camel in it
00:10.05Sraylol
00:10.19tedrocki actually wont to buy a mac now
00:10.25tedrockleopard convinced me
00:10.33DaedeI want one
00:10.38DaedeOSX is real nice
00:10.40Sraylol
00:10.41tedrockya want
00:10.49Daedei'm extremely at home in BSD environments
00:11.06tedrockand the fact i can do bootcamp or fusion is nice
00:11.38Srayi'd be willing to go back to dos  lol
00:11.44RicemanHardy Heron is decent-looking...
00:11.45Daedeyuck
00:11.54Daedewhy would you go to dos when you can always bash
00:11.56tedrockthe worst job i've had with apple so far is when i had to do legacy
00:11.57Ricemanbut my laptop doesn't play nice with Linux
00:12.11tedrockthat's a phone support line for those computers that apple decied to give LIFETIME support for
00:12.19DaedeRiceman get a homebrew bios for it
00:12.40tedrockfucking people running os 7 trying to add a printer. BUY A NEW COMPUTER DAMN YOU
00:12.41RicemanOh, the BIOS isn't the problem
00:12.49Ricemanthe trackpad and the wireless are the problem.
00:12.54Daedethere are entire linux teams dedicated to writing new BIOS systems for integrated or proprietary systems which otherwise would provide poor to no linux support
00:13.05Daedeah
00:13.12Daedebrb, then i'll show you some options
00:15.43Daedemodel of laptop?
00:15.54RicemanAcer Aspire, uh....let me check, one sec
00:16.06RicemanI think it's a 5570Z but I need to verify
00:17.11Ricemanyes, 5570Z
00:17.57Daedehttp://blog.urriza.net/2007/05/ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn-on-acer-aspire.html
00:18.48Daedehttp://awesomerails.wordpress.com/2007/08/27/ubuntu-on-acer-aspire-5570z/
00:19.10Ricemancheers
00:19.43Daedelooks like youre gonna want to run ubuntu for out of the box functionality
00:20.00Daedebut any dist with a little care setting up will run on your laptop just fine
00:20.02Daede:)
00:20.40Daederemember, if a dist has a 'Live CD', it gives you a chance to see how that dist is going to run on your machine without having to make a commitment :)
00:21.34Ricemanyeah, I know...I'm not completely new to Linux, just new to this particular combination of hardware and Ubuntu
00:21.34Daedeand whenever you're having wifi issues, always check with the guys at madwifi.org :)
00:21.49MentalPowerDaede: except of course when said LiveCD does not work (Ubuntu 7.10 on VPC'07)
00:21.58RicemanI have a Solaris 10 disc that Sun sent me for some reason, but I don't think that'd work on an Aspire, heh
00:22.03Daedewtf is a VPC?
00:22.09MentalPowerVirtualPC
00:22.13Daedeget out
00:22.18Daedepack ur shit and hit the road
00:22.24MentalPowerlol
00:22.30Ricemanlol
00:22.33MentalPowerI'm serious
00:22.48Daedeanybody who runs linux in a wm should be shot.
00:22.56Daederun linux native and run windows int he vm
00:23.25MentalPowerthat won't work for vista
00:23.32MentalPowerat least not with aero
00:23.37MentalPoweryes, I run vista
00:23.42MentalPowerit was free
00:23.45Daedeye i try not to think about vista.. at all
00:24.01RicemanI ran Vista for 8 months....bought it the day it came out.
00:24.08RicemanI will never run Vista again.
00:24.23Daedei run xp home and i like it just fine
00:24.31RicemanXP Pro is my OS of choice atm.
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00:24.40Daedei'll take a look at vista at some point down the road, but it's not on my priority list
00:24.42MentalPowerI hate xphome, I need at least xppro
00:25.12Daedexp home is fine for 90% of the people out there who think they need pro.
00:25.39MentalPower~wiki MSDN_Academic_Alliance
00:26.21Daedepurl ask MentalPower what his point is
00:26.26DaedexD
00:26.40MentalPowerthat I didn't pay for Vista
00:26.43Daedeah
00:26.54Daedei just don't have the hardware to run vista
00:27.04Daedevista is compeltely xml driven
00:27.24Daedeand the interface takes too much proc power to render on my pitiful 2.5ghz p4
00:27.28MentalPowererr... you sure about that?
00:27.49Daedepretty sure yea.. like i said i havent spent any time with it.. im going on what ive read and heard
00:28.00MentalPowerI mean I know it use the XML printing format, and a few other XML foo, but I would not say that makes it XML driven
00:28.24Daedeyou can completely redesign and reskin windows via xml templates, can you not?
00:28.43MentalPowerI have not seen that
00:28.59DaedeI'm pretty sure every element of your desktop is based off xml
00:29.19DaedeI could be wrong, but I swear i read that somewhere
00:29.40MentalPowerI'm not sure, I'd have to check
00:34.54Sraysuspicious?  is that how you spell it?
00:35.44MentalPowersuspicious, yes
00:36.32Srayok, i have a lot to say
00:36.50Srayhow many words does irc hold?
00:37.49Daedei dont understand the question
00:37.53MentalPowerdepends on what server you're connected to
00:37.57Daedehow mig is your input buffer?
00:38.01Daedebig*
00:38.20Sraylol...i'm talking about for you guys to read what i have to say about the mod2mod talking
00:38.26MentalPowertry to limit yourself to no more than 192chars, the absolute limit is 255, but some of that is used for routing purposes
00:39.11DaedePretty sure the limit is closer to 512... (we are stillt alking about irc, right?)
00:39.44MentalPower1234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890
00:39.46MentalPower1234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890
00:39.48MentalPower1234567890123456789012345678901234567890
00:39.49MentalPowercount
00:40.09MentalPowernote that I can't count for you since IRC does not send the sender its own messages
00:40.18Daedestrlen is $len("1234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890")
00:40.21Daedeshit
00:40.25Daedeholdon
00:40.44Daedestrlen is 402
00:40.47Daede402
00:41.02MentalPowerk, so its 512-routiing
00:41.05Daededefinately supports my theory of 512
00:41.14MentalPowers/ii/i/
00:41.39Daede~botsnack
00:41.39purlDaede: :)
00:43.00Sraywell...you guyes have enough window space?
00:43.05Srayguys*
00:43.18norgjiraBug 03BCNT-45 10bogertus: Received this error upon opening mailbox. 06* (Unconfirmed) http://norganna.org/BCNT-45
00:43.20Srayok, here we go...read up
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00:43.32Daedewant a fun exercise in how irc talks? /run telnet irc.freenode.net 6667
00:43.35Sraylol...how much data was that?
00:43.38Daedeopen with HELO
00:43.48Daedeand gimme a minute ill remember the rest
00:44.12Daedeu gotta send USER HOST and i think it'll pick up from there
00:44.13MentalPowerPRIVMSG #channel text
00:44.23MentalPoweris how you send messages IIRC
00:44.37MentalPowerSray: you haven't said anything, least not to the channel
00:44.52Srayhmm...guess i sent so much it kicked me
00:44.54MentalPowerSray: you need to not flood the server
00:45.08Daedetrying to remember the right string for user
00:45.26SrayOk, let's say 6 million people happen to download auctioneer's new database sharing program. They install it and run wow.
00:45.26SrayFirst thing that happens is all auctioneers will start off as "patch" 0 and be placed in find mode.
00:45.26SrayAfter a random time between 50-70 seconds of the addon not hearing any "checkups", it assumes no primary is online, so it shouts "primary".
00:45.26SrayUpon seeing this message the ones who haven't shouted will switch to link mode.
00:45.27SrayIf there are any ties to the "primary", a "roll" is produced to primary up.
00:45.32SrayBeing primary, the primary will "checkup" every 30-40 seconds in addon channel so that newcomers know in which case they will
00:45.32Srayswitch to link mode, any loser to the primary roll also switches to link mode. Upon seeing the first checkup while in link mode,
00:45.35Sraybetween 40-80 seconds, a whisper is sent to primary for a link add request. The primary will add the person to the list.
00:45.38SrayWhen the list begins to have more than 3 people, the server will begin net drop whispers to each person in the list letting
00:45.41Sraythem know the person above them in the list, below them in the list as well as a third random person in the list for contact
00:45.44Sray(which is not themselves or the 2 named people). For each new person, they are added the the list in a
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00:46.06Sraylet me know where you left off, i'll send rest
00:46.28MentalPower(which is not themselves or the 2 named people). For each new person, they are added the the list in a
00:48.00Srayomg, slow...
00:48.01Sraydouble-linked list fashion with a tertiary, giving an update to the partners that a linkover occured (to keep the list on rotate).
00:48.01SrayEvery 5 minutes of being primary, the primary chooses a random person to assume the roll of primary that he has links with.
00:48.01SrayAny time a contact is severed a simple call for back is sent in reverse in the list until the person who has that same contact
00:48.02Srayin his reverse is found, he then contacts with them to link them together...now making it a self-correcting double LL with backup.
00:48.05SrayNow that the initiation has been accounted for, and shows that addon channel is only spammed maybe a few times a minute at most,
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00:48.55Srayand whispers die down a lot even if millions log on at the same time...the time variances are random on purpose to allow
00:48.55Sraycollission to a minimum.  Whenever someone scans the AH, they whisper their data to the next person in the line as a net drop
00:48.55Sray(keeping the data as light as possible without whisper spamming and getting kicked off).  Whenever someone receives a message
00:48.55Srayfrom their previous partner, they store that data as a "possibility" and send it along the chain. A check once in a while with
00:48.58Sraythe tertiary partner to make sure the possibilities are equal, it becomes real, and is used as proper scan data.
00:49.06MentalPowerSray: stop
00:49.10Sraysorry
00:49.12MentalPowerSray: I have a better idea
00:49.16Sraylol
00:49.21MentalPowerSray: http://norganna.pastey.net
00:49.31MentalPowerpost there, link back
00:49.44MentalPowerso long as your text is not over 4MB you'll be fine
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00:50.57Daede2<--
00:51.02Srayhttp://norganna.pastey.net/77642
00:51.16Daede2<--r raw telnet connection
00:51.33DaedePRIVMSG :Sray!i=Sray@c-71-200-36-128.hsd1.de.comcast.net PRIVMSG #norganna :http
00:51.34Daede://norganna.pastey.net/77642
00:52.08Daede2scary stuff
00:52.45Sraynetworking is scary stuff...but you said how could you do it without bogging the addon channel....and well...i didn't, and in fact, the list can be done in quite a small amount of time...i could run deadmines and be back out and boom, my auction scan is done by someone else
00:53.29Daedehttp://norganna.pastey.net/77643
00:54.21cirdani have an odd issue
00:54.30cirdantrinketmenu on my pc is broken, but not on my max
00:54.32cirdanmac
00:54.40cirdanand i keep the settings/addons synced
00:55.11cirdanthe pc whines about reading nil values
00:55.16Sraysoo...like...i don't know if that is understanding enough or if it's complete jibberish, i apologize because it is very difficult for me to explain things
00:56.40Daedeanyways, to open a telnet connection to irc, telnet anthony.freenode.net 6667 then send "USER username your.host.here anthony.freenode.net :Your real name info here"
00:56.42MentalPowerSray: from what I read, it looks like the point of your system is not to share whats on the AH, but what that user's price is currently, Am I rite/
00:57.32Sraywhatever data needs to be sent...which means the small the better...if you send each item that's a lot of data, but if you send an item name along with average/lowestbo/maxbid, that's far smaller
00:57.43Daedethen send "JOIN #norganna" then "PRIVMSG #norganna :hi guys, whats up"
00:58.12Srayan item that has been seen being sold is important information as well...but even then that is untrusted because the person can cancel it too
00:58.51Daedeok guys im gonna go watch some tv with my kids
00:58.55Daedepeace/piece
00:58.59Srayso you take 33k scans into a manageable 1k item list, in a ring whisper mode on net drops, it may take longer, but it can be done without actually BEING there
00:59.01Daedehope for both, settle for either
00:59.24Sraycya daede
00:59.37Daedeif someone named Leigh comes in here looking for me
00:59.42MentalPowerSray: also, I think your method would result in a helluva lot of duplicate messages when the data is being passed down the list
00:59.48Daedetell her to email me on myspace, i'm off for the night
01:00.31Sraytrue that if multiple people are scanning...but that can be resolved, a self-scan undercedes a trailed scan but supercedes it's own database
01:00.50Srayfor example....A sends B scan data....B is scanning....B will relay A's message, but not B's scan stuff
01:01.07Srayso duplication resolved
01:01.35Sraythe primary is the head, and changes down the list...so..in a sense a stop block of the data
01:01.49Srayor you can make the person sending the data the stop block
01:02.46cirdanany idea how to debug my issue?
01:02.48Sraythe primary job is simply to add you to the list...and be judge ...but what's a judge without a jury, so all things are pretty much voted, and with random values, chances of you choosing wrong data is slight....plus...who would be able to understand the code?
01:02.50MentalPowermy point is not duplication, its the sheer ammount of data being transferred
01:03.26MentalPowercirdan: whats the exact error message?
01:04.00MentalPowerfor n people its n-1 messages
01:04.14MentalPowerfor a large server that can easily bring the server down
01:05.21Srayok....so...let's say i don't know, item 42923, averages 14s42c, lowestbo 38s11c, highestbid 12s03c....the message is 54292341442438111203:....that's 21 bytes, whispers have a limit of near 255...that's...10 items
01:05.37Srayat least
01:05.44Srayand i haven't even compressed the data stream
01:06.16Srayplus it's done on net drops as i said...which means it isn't INSTANT....they wait a random amount of time before relays
01:06.24cirdanMentalPower: i'll have to getit in a min
01:06.26Srayso that it doesn't bump you for spamming
01:07.15MentalPowerback to my original question, your system transfers the distilation of the scanner's stats, not whats currently on the AH
01:07.27Srayumm...definately?  lol
01:07.37Srayif it sent every single item, that would make it almost ludicrous
01:08.11Srayalthough you could do it, it would take far longer than normal though (probably 1.5 hours in idle scanning) rather than 5 minutes of self-scanning
01:09.09Srayand what the other ideas behind this is the fact that if it keeps circulating proper values, then people will know the exact amount during the day, and not just that minutes ah scan
01:09.19MentalPowerso basically what you're proposing is an extension of AskPrice's swarm functionality
01:09.32Sray*shrugs*  i have no idea
01:09.45Srayi kinda skimmed through the addon cuz it's confusing as hell
01:09.49bleeterMentalPower: that's what I got from it
01:11.06MentalPowerSray: what is confusing about it?
01:11.21cirdanthe code :)
01:11.26Srayi never really liked stubbed code, the whole "blah = thisfunctioninstead"
01:11.58Srayi know hooking and all...but as soon as you add stubby, and then hooksecurefunction and then say "this addon = thisinstead" and i'm like...wait...what?
01:12.49MentalPowerstubby's purpose is to hook things when the main addon is not loaded, and you should not really use hooksecurefunc() trivially, its rather expensive
01:13.16MentalPowerin essence, blah = someOtherFunction is still the most efficient method
01:13.50Sraylike i said, confusing to me....i mean i hooked all my stuff pretty simply in onevent status by checking if the addon was loaded then hooking, without stubby
01:14.53MentalPowerSray: fair enough, but that is not stubby's purpose wither
01:15.10Srayi know...i finally understood it when i played around with trying to hook my own enhtooltip
01:15.32Sraybut you have to think, you've been with auctioneer code for awhile, i just jumped in, and there's a LOT of stuff
01:15.49MentalPowerFrameXML is loaded, Stubby hooks functionA in FrameXML while AddOnB is not yet loaded. FunctionA fires with a specific argument and that finally causes AddOnB to load
01:16.10MentalPowerSray: thats the entire purpose of the modules system
01:16.19MentalPowerSray: look at Auc-Util-AskPrice
01:17.49MentalPowerits not that much code, and its pretty simple to interpret
01:18.13Sray=(
01:18.47Srayso in a nut shell, wasted an hour to write that document up....you already had one in place
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01:19.07MentalPowerSray: we didn't know what you were trying to say
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01:19.36Srayi was just stating a secure way of data swapping between players without worrying of misplay
01:20.30MentalPowerright, and we were just trying to understand what new stuff you brought to the table, cause we've heard a bunch of proposals, but none that can withstand the fire trials
01:20.39Srayhonestly, just wanted to feel like i could really help...my bad
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01:21.52MentalPowerand we appreciate your attempt, we really do, we were just skeptic cause we've been trying to crack that cookie for a long time
01:21.53Srayto send auction data is name+item+startbid+bid+buyout....too much info, even with compression can't do it, like i said, 1.5 hours on net sweeps...so, fail
01:22.16Srayi'm cool though, maybe i'll think of something
01:22.21MentalPowerthe problem with sending just stats data is that it varies from person to person
01:22.36MentalPowerboth might be "correct", but they still vary
01:22.57MentalPowerfor example personA always scans on primetime, while personB scans only on downtime
01:23.14MentalPowerpersonA's data will be higher than personB's but they are both correct
01:23.16Sraywell my idea was based on getting the data while online, not while you were away
01:23.23cirdanit would work well if blizz had a master AH channel, with items listed as they are posted on the AH
01:23.33cirdanthen you could just listen and get constant updates
01:23.38cirdanlike multicast
01:24.25MentalPowerSray: explain?
01:24.30SraypersonA scans primetime and his average is up, personB doesn't get A's average if he leaves before B arrives
01:24.44Sraybut B will get the average of right now while he is stuck in stv
01:25.40Sraywhy?  cuz personC decided to get online at the same time and begin scan
01:26.47Srayif A shows up and rescans, his average would drop compared to his earlier price and now, and B/C will go up cuz A just threw a high average around....they become very close in values, but the point i was trying for is that not everyone has to scan
01:27.20Sraycan even have a box in the corner that changes when you've got fresh scan data
01:27.33MentalPowerthe other issue is how do you add this data to the current stats modules, or would you create a new stats module just for this kind of data?
01:28.27Sraywell the stats i currently see are honestly not what i use
01:29.42Srayi have a select amount of items i have on relist...i keep track of their lowest BO as well as highest bid (only ones who have bidded) and in the past week i see a curve, i use the high end of the curve for resell
01:30.43MentalPowerso you use an outside program?
01:30.50MentalPoweror did you create a new stats module?
01:31.31Srayi use baudauction to list all the pages of an item to see the lowest/highest stuff and write it down in a book on my market toon, my other toons have auctioneer enabled
01:33.04Srayi use enchantrix with static prices at 90% value of the lowest i've seen so that i know the minimum amount of money i can make on an item as well
01:33.29Srayand...well..i have a lot of money let's just say
01:33.40MentalPoweryou do know that you can create a stats module to do exactly what you do on paper now right?
01:33.47Srayi have a webcam now so i'll be posting a how-to as soon as i get some scripts written up
01:34.05Srayi don't know how to write the stats module if i don't understand how the program is loading it
01:34.32Srayit's just how i program, i'm perfectionist, need to know what the program is doing in order to properly ask it to do stuff the right way
01:35.17MentalPowerlook at the Auc-Stats-Basic and Auc-Util-Example modules
01:35.19Srayand i only keep 2 weeks of data and have used it for 2 months now....i have to redo it because of 2.3 (every major patch changes prices)
01:35.26MentalPowerthey are the easiers to understand
01:36.22MentalPowers/easiers/easiest/
01:37.14Sraydo i have to download those separately?
01:38.25MentalPowerSray: they are both included in the Auctioneer Advanced Suite download
01:39.48Srayi don't see auc-stats-basic, i see filter-basic, and the util-example under the modules in auc-advanced, i also see auc-stat-simple
01:40.12MentalPowersorry, Auc-Stats-Simple
01:40.20Sraywhew, thought i was going nuts
01:41.42cirdanMentalPower: the error is "[string "TrinketMenu_IconFrame:OnEnter"] line 1: attempt to index global 'TrinketMenu' a nil value
01:42.42MentalPowercirdan: I would suggest you re-install the mods from sratch in your PC, looks like theres something missing
01:43.11cirdansame mods on both computers
01:43.19cirdani use rsync to keep them synced
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01:48.06Sraywhat process is performed right before it goes through the itemData db?  cuz i need to initialize a few values beforehand
01:49.25Srayfor example...i see   lib.ScanProcessors.create   only seems to go through 1 item at a time?  or am i reading it wrong?
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01:52.47AndyDevhi all
01:53.21MentalPowerI'm off to see heroes, bbl
01:53.27Sray?
01:53.39Srayand i'm ignored...s'ok
01:53.41cirdanheh
01:53.58MentalPower|AFKSray: look at CoreScan.lua
01:54.08Sraylol...thx
01:54.09MentalPower|AFKcirdan: I still think you should try a fresh reinstall
01:54.38cirdanyeah, ok
01:55.01AndyDevsmall question, I'm using auctioneer ADV and I scan daily. I have one character with scans the auctioneer and another character which I play with. Is it possible to have the auctioneer prices on the character I play, without loading all the addons package?
01:55.45AndyDevin simple words: bank character does auctioneer transactions, other character just sees the tooltip of the prices
01:55.52Sraystats are saved i think
01:55.55Srayin the db
01:56.09AndyDevloading the enhtooltip should be enough?
01:56.14Srayno
01:56.16Srayneed getprice
01:56.19Srayi believe
01:57.32Sraybrb
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02:00.56SaranaNot sure if this is an error but I noticed an extraneous ` in Auc-Util-PriceLevel/Embed.xml revision 2530.
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02:05.32bleeterSarana: line number?
02:05.52SaranaLine 4 reads `<Script>
02:06.19bleeterSarana: ah, yup... I see it. sorry, was being lazy and asking before opening the file :)
02:06.25bleeternice job spotting that :)
02:07.02SaranaNP, I'm one of those crazy people that runs a full diff before I update any addon.
02:07.21CIA-24auctioneer: 03normal * r2545 10Auc-Util-PriceLevel/Embed.xml: Remove stray `
02:07.26bleeterfixed :)
02:07.32bleeterthanks again
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02:17.13bleeterSarana: I love the easy fixes, you don't know how much I appreciate your input ;)
02:18.24SaranaI wish all fixes could be like that, had to deal with some real fun bugs in my day job.
02:19.25SaranaOf course since I get paid to work on debuggers and other code tools it might not actually be a good thing for me. :)
02:19.47AndyDevI never got hooked to lua
02:20.20AndyDevusually I get hooked with dev languages,but for some reason, didnt had the patience for it
02:20.27AndyDevmaybe I should try harder ;)
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03:37.04RalmHello, I'm wondering who to chat with if I'm interested in doing some QA for the project..
03:37.17MentalPower~recruitingdrive
03:37.20purlIf you would like to apply for a position on the auctioneer team, please read http://norganna.org/wiki/Organizational_Chart and determine that you fit the bill for the spot for which you are applying. Then, make sure you have an active forum account. Once that is done, /join #Norganna-Dev and give your forum name to one of the ops in that channel.
03:37.35Ralmthank you
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03:50.28AndyDevI'll ask my question again :)
03:50.55AndyDevin simple words: bank character does auctioneer transactions, other character just sees the tooltip of the prices. Which addons do I need to enable for the other character to just see the prices?
03:51.37MentalPowerAuc-Advanced, Stubby, EnhTT and whatever Stats modules you use
03:52.08AndyDevso I need most of the addons just to show the statistics, right?\
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03:52.28AndyDevI was hoping I could use less ram for the character that does not use AH at all
03:52.56RockSliceit will use less RAM, as it doesn't load a snapshot of the AH
03:52.57MentalPowerwell, the other high mem addon is the Auc-ScanData addon, you don't need that one
03:53.36AndyDevoh, cool, thanks for the help, and great job!
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04:00.54Ralmthanks MentalPower
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04:11.05punkspiderok i have a question anyone  good with this addon cause i suck at it
04:11.14RockSliceyup
04:11.33RockSliceWhich version are you using? Adv or Classic?
04:11.58punkspiderok i had it set up nice before patch  i dont know what i down loaded this time i went with bigest there was very top one and it looks way diff not to mention  does wierd shit when i look in my mail
04:12.02punkspidersorry for language
04:12.49punkspideri just dont know what i need to turn off  in the addons screen everytime i do something i mess something up
04:13.27punkspideri want the  look from  blizard and  my mail to be normal not the  wait a min while it  loads or scans then  lets me see my mail
04:13.54RockSliceturn off beancounter
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04:14.40punkspiderok that will stop mail i'm guessing  what about the look  do i need to download clasic i dont know wich i did this one tells me the time that is left where before i didnt have that
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04:15.28punkspideracutally  i went to look in auction and  auctioneer didnt even work said something about not loading so when i put in items it dont set the buyout price  for me
04:15.47RockSlicetry posting using the Appraiser tab
04:16.16punkspiderwill have to look at that gonna log wow thanksfor help staying in room  if lets me
04:21.12punkspiderok bean counter stoped the  mail thing but the  auction window still looks wierd. i dont rember appraiser tab and it didnt show the time left on items when i did a search before really  it's just made the  search items too small for me
04:23.29punkspidersorry if i'm confuseing  the auction window just looks alot different and harder to see stuff is small and  has more  tabs and more filters on the search screen.
04:23.55MentalPowerpunkspider: just install Classic, and remove Advanced
04:24.20punkspiderok thanks
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04:24.45punkspiderwhat is btm scan i notice that takes most memory  for  addons is that the one that scans for deals?
04:24.57RockSliceyes
04:25.13RockSliceit shouldn't be taking up a lot of memory, though
04:25.29punkspider7.76 meg i think it is
04:25.45punkspidermore than others and i dont use it so really  takeing more than it should lol
04:25.47kindofabuzzis there anyway and/or to download autioneer data?  i deleted mine
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04:26.06MentalPowerkindofabuzz: negative, sorry
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04:26.38Speeddymonpunk, sec and ill look
04:26.48MentalPowerkindofabuzz: no PMs please
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04:27.20kindofabuzzoh i thought you pm'd me
04:27.46punkspiderok another one  informent is that reporting back to  ya'll or getting info for me?
04:27.51kindofabuzzso could i use someone elses data from my realm?
04:28.02MentalPowerkindofabuzz: yes you could, that would work
04:28.06Speeddymonpunkspider: no that is what controls the vendor prices etc in the tooltips
04:28.13kindofabuzzexactly what files?
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04:28.49MentalPowerkindofabuzz: if you use classic, SavedVariables\Auctioneer.lua if you use Advanced, SavedVariables\Auc-*.lua
04:28.51Speeddymonbtw, i got about a 7meg footprint in btm as well..
04:29.06punkspidersorry  for all trouble  still new  to wow use to  eq where i ddint really have addons
04:29.16punkspideryeah  i have 7.59 meg on btm
04:29.18norgjiraBug 03ADB-3 10frozndevl: Error caused by alt + rightclick into the standard Post Auctions tab06* (Unconfirmed) http://norganna.org/ADB-3
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04:29.33kindofabuzzfrom the wtf folder?
04:30.03MentalPowerkindofabuzz: aye
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05:31.16Srayi found an error
05:31.24Srayin mathematical calculations
05:31.31RockSlice?
05:32.06Srayyeah, i was making a new Auct_Stat_Simple to add in highest minimum buyout seen in 14 days...and well...i was looking at the average formulas for the week and biweekly and they're wrong
05:32.30RockSlicecan you give the lines?
05:32.40Srayfdata[property][3] = ("%0.01f"):format(((fdata[property][3] * 2) + dailyAvg)/3)
05:32.40Srayfdata[property][4] = ("%0.01f"):format(((fdata[property][4] * 6) + dailyAvg)/7)
05:32.40Srayfdata[property][5] = ("%0.01f"):format(((fdata[property][5] * 13) + dailyAvg)/14)
05:32.59Srayi can explain why these are wrong as well
05:33.09RockSlicego ahead
05:33.21Srayif you were to average the last 3 days and the numbers are 1, 2, 3...the average is 1+2+3  / 3  which is 2 correct?
05:33.27RockSliceyup
05:33.44Sraywell....you currently hold a total of 2...now if you say the fourth day have an average of say 6...what do you have?
05:34.00Sraythe last 3 days are 2 + 3 + 6.....which is..../3  = ?
05:34.10Sraybut the formula above shows 2*2 + 6 / 3
05:34.23Sraytotall different, you aren't dropping the "1"
05:34.31Srayfrom the fourth day
05:35.05Srayin order to properly keep days, you'd have to keep them stored in a rotating list that drops the last number as it bumps up...then average on the fly
05:35.46Srayi will try my best to change the current module since i'm already working on it anyway...but i thought i'd let you know
05:37.03RockSlicewhat lines are these found on?
05:37.36Sraypushstats
05:37.45Srayi'm using notepad, can't give you line numbers
05:38.19ProwellUm, Sray, its not the last few days strictly.
05:38.20Srayoh wait...hehe, i'm retarded, hold on, pdata was for looped...got i talk before i type
05:38.41ProwellIts a delaying average.  Intentionally.
05:38.44Srayhold on a sec....ug, looking at code all day
05:39.07MentalPowerSray: may I also suggest Notepad++ instead of notepad
05:39.13MentalPower~notepad++
05:39.19MentalPower~notepadplus
05:39.20purlNotepad++ is a text editor that handles almost every language under the sun (including Lua) available at http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/
05:39.22Sraynotepad++ crashes
05:39.28MentalPowerSray: no it doesn't
05:39.36RockSlicenever crashed for me
05:39.45MentalPowerI've used it for three years now, has never ever crashed on me
05:39.49Srayok....yes it does for me...every time i write programs in it it crashes right when i save
05:39.53Srayand i lose everything
05:40.03MentalPowereven with huge 30MB+ files
05:40.56ProwellFor the "7 day average", the latest day is 1/7th the weight.  So as things get older they carry less weight.  I hate then name "7 day average" as it gives the impression of being an average of the last 7 days, but that is not what it is.
05:41.17Srayas i said, i read it wrong, someone put the first initialization inside the for loop and it messed me up
05:41.26Srayi apologize, i have been looking at code all day
05:41.56Prowellnp.
05:46.22Sraywait...pdata is for each unique item correct?
05:46.54MentalPowerI beleive so, yes
05:47.22Srayso...i was correct, and yes, the weights carry less as the days go by, but if you say "last X days", you can't include the X+1 day
05:48.30MentalPowerexplain
05:48.46Srayday 1, average is 1silver
05:48.50Srayday 2, average is 2 silver
05:48.54Srayday 3, average is 3 silver
05:49.06Sray"Last 3 days" is (1+2+3)/3 = 2...this is correct
05:49.20Srayday 4, average is 6 silver
05:49.48Sraycurrent mod will do (2*2+6)/3 which is 3.33333
05:50.06Sraybut truth of "Last 3 days" is (2+3+6)/3 which is 3.66666
05:50.22MentalPoweryou're still thinking the old way
05:50.26Srayno i'm not
05:50.33Sraythink about it
05:50.37Sraythe loop is doing per item
05:50.45MentalPowerits not an average, its a delaying average
05:50.47Sraywhich means you have already calculated the last X days
05:51.02Srayand when you bring in the NEW days average, all you are doing is averaging it in to the slew
05:51.55Srayok...i'll give you another example, let's do stocks rising:   1,1,2,3,3,3,3,4,5,5,5,6,7,8,9,10
05:52.03Sraywhat's the last 3 day average?
05:52.15Sray9 correct?
05:52.58Sraynow....stock falls.....4,4....say in the next 2 days....the average is NOT  6.2222, it is 5.666
05:53.14Sraythe last 7 days might seem higher though
05:53.23Sraybecause it includes the 9, 8, 7 and so on
05:54.18Srayif a person were to scan the ah every day for 1 month, those numbers will pretty much be the same with no variation at all, because you are keeping a running average of weeks ago
05:54.31MentalPowerno the original average is 8.188257591095
05:54.37Sray*slaps forehead*
05:55.43MentalPowerthe calculation is not solely the last X number of days, its mainly the last X days + residual historical data
05:56.05Sraybut you can't do that because of stock highs and lows....that's the point of the dailys
05:56.30Sraydusts may show a 7 day stretch while shards are on a 3 day hit
05:57.01Sraybut you are averaging a month, 2 months...3 years data in with todays numbers
05:57.40MentalPowercorrect
05:58.08MentalPowerthe issue is that you're using the literal definition of the word average instead of what we really meant when coding the module
05:58.28MentalPowertrust me, if there was a better word to describe what we want to show, we would use it
06:03.03MentalPowerFor the "7 day average", the latest day is 1/7th the weight. So as things get older they carry less weight. I hate then name "7 day average" as it gives the impression of being an average of the last 7 days, but that is not what it is.For the "7 day average", the latest day is 1/7th the weight. So as things get older they carry less weight. I hate then name "7 day average" as it gives the...
06:03.04MentalPower...impression of being an average of the last 7 days, but that is not what it is.
06:03.28MentalPoweroops, double paste
06:03.55Srayi get it....you want today's average to be 1/7 and the average of every other day since you ever started scanning to be 6/7 weight
06:05.00MentalPowerbingo
06:05.31Sraythat actually makes absolutely no marketting sense, so, i'll just change it and send it in as an upgrade, you can decide which one you like better =P
06:05.38MentalPowertheres a reason its called Simple
06:06.07MentalPowerits meant as a low memory, low processing algorithm
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06:07.22Srayok, so i'll just call it Auct_Stat_Complex =)
06:08.19norgjiraBug 03BTMS-12 10dinesh: BTM's "Last purchased for" line in the tooltip is not always displayed.06 (Need Info) http://norganna.org/BTMS-12
06:09.30MentalPowerSray: fair enough
06:09.36MentalPowerSray: we welcome new modules
06:10.07MentalPowerin fact, if you want to add it and maintain it yourself (which would be greatly appreciated)...
06:10.12MentalPower~recruitingdrive
06:10.13purlIf you would like to apply for a position on the auctioneer team, please read http://norganna.org/wiki/Organizational_Chart and determine that you fit the bill for the spot for which you are applying. Then, make sure you have an active forum account. Once that is done, /join #Norganna-Dev and give your forum name to one of the ops in that channel.
06:18.13Cairenn|afkrofl, I hadn't realized you guys added a factoid for Cair|afk
06:19.01MentalPowerCairenn|afk: I didn't know either till I tried it
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06:39.02Sraydone, but i didn't rename any of the arguments , so it's still all got "simple" stuff....but the formula now does 3/7/14 averages as well as a minimum buyout for the day and the highest seen minimum buyout in 2 weeks
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06:40.28Srayi also did the averaging while i bumped numbers to produce a streamlined module, so it should be pretty fast
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06:43.57Sraydoes the new auctioneer save the "price per item" check box, cuz i hate forgetting to check the box
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07:01.49CIA-24auctioneer: 03speeddymon * r2546 10Auc-Advanced/CoreScan.lua: Change private.curPage < maxPages to private.curPage + 1 < maxPages and add a comment stating why. (Resolves ADV-88)
07:03.19norgjiraBug 03ADV-88 10Speeddymon: When you don't leave the scan info up at end of scan, you end up one page over the max06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://norganna.org/ADV-88
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07:06.18norgjiraBug 03ADV-84 10Luke1410: When zoning around Tanaris, the faction data doesn't switch06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/ADV-84
07:10.31Sraywell...i can't get on wow, and i just downloaded all the svn files, if my formulas work i'll sign up and keep it updated and everything....but i want to see how usefull it'll be first
07:10.50cirdanhmm would be nice to see your default faction next to the gobblin prices
07:11.09Sraygobblin prices?
07:11.24cirdanneutral faction AH
07:11.35cirdansee last bugfix
07:11.58Srayoh, yeah, i found that bug, that was suppose to be fixed like yesterday
07:12.11Srayor at least i noticed the bug, didn't locate the problem
07:12.18Srayi was told it was a spelling mistake, who knows
07:12.40Srayanyway, i'm tired, i'm going to bed...g'night all
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10:56.31sag_ich_nichtuh
10:56.57sag_ich_nichthow do i get the old btm scanner functionality back(btm scanner hooking into the auctionhouse main scan)
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12:05.42Daede~emulate daede
12:05.43purlACTION farted..
12:06.22Daedemornin folks
12:41.59Daedeanybody else notice that the latest version of squeenix doesn't put the speaker icon on your minimap?
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12:54.21norgjiraBug 03APPR-14 10Speeddymon: Refresh sometimes duplicates items06 (In Progress) http://norganna.org/APPR-14
12:55.14CIA-24auctioneer: 03speeddymon * r2547 10/trunk/ (Auc-Advanced/CoreScan.lua Auc-Util-Appraiser/AprFrame.lua): Fix duplicating of some items in Appraiser. Resolves ADV-89
12:55.21norgjiraBug 03ADV-89 10Speeddymon: Refresh sometimes duplicates items06 (In Progress) http://norganna.org/ADV-89
12:56.21norgjiraBug 03ADV-89 10Speeddymon: Refresh sometimes duplicates items06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://norganna.org/ADV-89
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13:06.01llrIs current Developer version of Search-UI broken?
13:08.46|Stan|fisheye down?
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13:11.17Speeddymonlir, not that i know of
13:11.23Speeddymon|Stan|: let me check
13:11.46Speeddymonlooks like it stan
13:11.54|Stan|:(
13:12.13|Stan|happens very often in the last few days
13:13.21norgjiraBug 03APPR-49 10Speeddymon: Appraiser saying there is no market price when i can see data in the bottom half06* (Unconfirmed) http://norganna.org/APPR-49
13:15.22norgjiraBug 03SDBG-2 10Speeddymon: nil error in undercut module when selecting debug module in appraiser06* (Unconfirmed) http://norganna.org/SDBG-2
13:15.45Speeddymonyes i know, the admin is aware and working on the problem
13:26.31Daedefisheye is the svn?
13:27.20Daedei swear
13:27.35Daedeantonidas restarts more than some private servers..
13:29.31gil--~7min for a scan sound about right for 165 pages?
13:29.52Daedehttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Antonidas&n=Daede
13:29.59Daedepimpin
13:30.56Daedei wonder why my image on wowarmory.com has a beard when i am clean-shaven..
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13:39.16EllricGood morning folks.
13:42.57EllricI am having an odd issue with Bean Counter (AA, not the latest) where it locks my mailbox - it displays the scanning dialog, but never goes away.  If I reload my UI it goes away.  This appears to happen somewhat randomly.
13:44.12EllricHas anyone else experienced this?
13:44.24Daedei havent
13:44.38Daedetry updating tot he latest aa
13:44.48Daedehttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/hunter/talents.html?0000000000000000000000523201205311200000000000000000000000000000#none
13:44.57Daedethats gonna be a pretty tree
13:45.33Daedesorry wrong link
13:45.34Daedehttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/hunter/talents.html?2323000050500000000000523201205311252105100000000000000000000000
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14:23.21DavidStoneHi, I just look at the opensource call on auctioneer, am I in the right spot?
14:24.28DavidStoneOk next question, is anyone out there?
14:26.49Payhi all. don't know if anyone can answer this quetion. but what am i doing wrong...? i normaly use auctioneer, but have upgrated to advnced suite. and now i wount load the prices. any know why?
14:27.35Payit will not load tha prices
14:28.42Payanyone there?
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14:31.44gil--sec
14:31.55Kandoko~perl auct
14:31.55purlACTION forces ^Migs^ to use perl
14:32.09Kandoko~purl auct
14:32.14Kandokosigh
14:32.30gil--pay - did u do a clean install and let it build data over a few days?
14:33.55sag_ich_nicht[11:56] <sag_ich_nicht> how do i get the old btm scanner functionality back(btm scanner hooking into the auctionhouse main scan)
14:34.01Payno i did not... when i use auc-advanced do i need auctioneer folder aswell. hope its not a stupid question
14:34.42gil--i believe so, AA uses new information and cannot use your old info, so you need to scan for a few days to build up prices
14:36.05Paywhat you are saying to me is - delete ALL the old auctioneer stuff, and install the new AA?
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15:11.50Linhi there, what is the appraiser evaluator?
15:12.17RockSlice|AFKIt's similar to the resale evaluator, but uses the settings in appraiser for that item
15:12.30Linand snatch?
15:12.47LinRockSlice: if there is any documentation about it, i can read it =D
15:13.10RockSlicesnatch pulls items at or below your set price
15:13.30RockSlice<PROTECTED>
15:14.22norgjiraBug 03ADV-78 10Luke1410: Error when scan finished - attempt to index local 'data' (a string value)06 (Open) http://norganna.org/ADV-78
15:14.23RockSlicedocumentation is currently being worked on.  You might look at the wiki (norganna.org/wiki)
15:14.37Linthank you RockSlice
15:14.45RockSlicenp
15:15.21norgjiraBug 03ADV-78 10dinesh: Error when scan finished - attempt to index local 'data' (a string value)06 (Open) http://norganna.org/ADV-78
15:16.22norgjiraBug 03ADV-78 10dinesh: Error in CoreScan:486: attempt to index local 'data' (a string value) - at various points involving searching/scanning - 06 (Open) http://norganna.org/ADV-78
15:17.05Linwhen talking about prospect and disenchant evaluations, it uses a kind of median based on probability of prospected itens, right?
15:18.09RockSliceyes.  It uses the prospecting/DE data from enchantrix, which comes with a fairly good DB, but also keeps an eye on what you experience yourself
15:22.42RockSlicelin, you might also want to check out http://norganna.org/discuss/discussion/5387/
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15:49.51KapheneHey are there any ops on?
15:50.16RockSliceyup
15:50.33KapheneI was reading your front page about looking for people, I would love to help
15:50.40RockSlice~recruitingdrive
15:50.41purlIf you would like to apply for a position on the auctioneer team, please read http://norganna.org/wiki/Organizational_Chart and determine that you fit the bill for the spot for which you are applying. Then, make sure you have an active forum account. Once that is done, /join #Norganna-Dev and give your forum name to one of the ops in that channel.
15:51.06Kaphenewill do
15:51.20Kaphenethanks
15:58.36Daedeoh yea
15:58.39Daedeoh yea
15:58.40Daeded
15:58.41Daeded
15:58.43Daededing
16:01.08gil--~commands
16:02.42RockSlice~auctstuff
16:02.43purlI know about the following topics (type one for more info): ~aucdeletesv, ~auctioneerbeta, ~auctioneersvn, ~auctfaq, ~auctdownload, ~auctinstall, ~auctupdate, ~enxstatus, ~norgjira, ~norgbug <nickname>, ~recruitingdrive, ~transferdata
16:05.21norgjiraNew Feature 03ADV-71 10: Tooltips on guild vault items06 (Open) http://norganna.org/ADV-71
16:08.04gil--~auctfaq
16:08.05purlCheck the FAQs in the support forum at http://norganna.org/discuss/4
16:08.15gil--im gonno put that on speeddial!
16:09.59RockSliceYAY!  Someone's using it!
16:13.48gil--sigh i donno what the hell i was thinking .. xfered my priest with 1/2 my gold to another server, used up whats left to buy an epic mount for the warrior leftover
16:13.54gil--now im down to like 500g
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16:15.49Kaphene_0039Hi dinesh
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16:16.06dineshhowdy
16:16.48Kaphene_0039I read the topic, but I'm not sure what it has to do with me. can you help me out? lol
16:16.49dineshack, looks like the topic changed
16:16.49dineshhang on
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16:18.09dineshKaphene_0039: you're going to want to chat with MentalPower|ZzZz , Esamynn|Away , or norgs, but i don't think any of them are on channel at the moment.  norgs probably went to bed already, and MentalPower|ZzZz won't be on for a couple hours probbably
16:18.31Kaphene_0039alright thanks for the info, I'll come back after school
16:18.34dineshif you can, just stay logged in and when someone gets online we can grab you
16:18.37Kaphene_0039last day of the semester yay!
16:18.38dineshahh, or that
16:18.48Kaphene_0039ya I'll be back later thanks.
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16:22.46BendableHello everyone
16:22.57RockSlicehello
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16:25.06BendableI've got a bottomscanner question.  If anyone has an answer, lets see if they'll match!
16:25.29RockSlicei have a btmscan answer!
16:25.32BendableWhat does bottom scanner mean when it says 'Purchasing for: appraiser'?
16:26.04RockSliceMy answer: 60 items a day
16:26.11RockSlicehmm. don't match
16:26.17BendableD'oh!
16:26.34RockSliceappraiser is resale, but uses the appraiser settings for that item
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16:27.30BendableSo it's basically the same thing as 'for: resale', except it's using the pricing model currently selected in the appraiser...
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16:27.44RockSliceyup
16:28.38BendableHow is that different from the pricing model used when it says 'for: resale'?
16:28.59RockSliceresale uses the "market" price only
16:29.11RockSlice(they will probably be integrated someday soon)
16:29.20BendableAh, now I understand.  Thanks.
16:29.55BendableBeen using auctioneer advanced for a few days, it still rocks.
16:29.57Deviis there any way to get Enchantrix to display more... pessimistic values? i.e. if an item more commonly disenchants to "2.5" arcane dust, it displays the "lowest possible value" of AucAdv market value of 2 arcane dust (or the essence if that were the lowest priced item)?
16:31.11RockSliceit would be possible to code, but i highly doubt that would be implemented
16:31.55RockSlicethe purpose isn't to say how much you will get from DEing that particular item, but how much you would get on average for DEing that item
16:32.04Deviit just seems to be way overevaluating things since the prices for shards are so high, even though they very, very rarely d/e into them
16:32.15dineshbut the one time they do...bam!  
16:32.42RockSlicewhich makes up for the dusts
16:32.53dineshthere are several discussions on the forum about this topic, if you have the time to head over there and search for them
16:32.59Deviha, true... and i've set my own workaround by setting the "max bid" to 50s less than the price for two dusts :P
16:33.38Deviwas just wondering if it would be an option, i'll check 'em out, thanks :)
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17:49.16Ozzehhey dudes
17:49.30Ozzehanyone know where i can get an auctioneer database for altar of storms?
17:50.22ccoxyou can't - you need to scan the auctionhouse to build the database
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18:06.26CIA-24auctioneer: 03kandoko * r2549 10BeanCounter/BeanCounterFrames.lua:
18:06.26CIA-24auctioneer: Starts BCNT-51
18:06.26CIA-24auctioneer: Added a stack column, consolidated seller/buyer, clarified if auction was won via bid/buyout, renamed profit to NET.
18:06.26CIA-24auctioneer: Searches default sort is by date newest to oldest.
18:06.26CIA-24auctioneer: bids/buyouts now show stack sizes and profit/per.
18:08.20norgjiraPollution 03auctioneer r2549 10kandoko: BeanCounter/BeanCounterFrames.lua has new global vars: tbl at line 722 and tbl at line 764
18:08.23norgjiraBug 03INF-4 10Norganna: Stack price not being calclulated correctly on high-end vendor purchased arrows and bullets06 (Open) http://norganna.org/INF-4
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18:11.22norgjiraImprovement 03BCNT-46 10kandoko: Default BC sort should be reverse chron by date06 (Open) http://norganna.org/BCNT-46
18:12.21norgjiraImprovement 03BCNT-46 10kandoko: Default BC sort should be reverse chron by date06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://norganna.org/BCNT-46
18:13.23norgjiraImprovement 03BCNT-47 10kandoko: Add stack size and/or price per column to report output; add actual price paid06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://norganna.org/BCNT-47
18:16.22norgjiraBug 03BCNT-49 10kandoko: BeanCounter search gets reset if BTM is running and text is in browse tab search window06 (Open) http://norganna.org/BCNT-49
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18:17.21GnBanditoCI5hello all
18:17.34Kaphene2hi
18:18.22GnBanditoCI5Anyone else aware of the massive errors in wow from the new version of auctioneer, more specifically it looks like enhtooltips errors
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18:19.22RockSliceGnBanditoCI5: from the BtmScan pane?  or elsewhere?
18:19.49GnBanditoCI5its a crapload of red text that spams underneath the chat window pane
18:20.04GnBanditoCI5goes halfway up the screen..lol
18:20.08Callieewhat version?
18:20.11GnBanditoCI5AuctioneerAdvancedSuite-5.0.PRE.2544
18:20.21norgjiraBug 03BCNT-49 10kandoko: BeanCounter search gets reset if BTM is running and text is in browse tab search window06 (Open) http://norganna.org/BCNT-49
18:20.26RockSlicewhat error reporting addons do you have besides swatter?
18:20.44GnBanditoCI5hmmm
18:20.51GnBanditoCI5let me check
18:21.22norgjiraImprovement 03BCNT-50 10kandoko: Allow individual selection of outbid/auction won, and of auction successful/expired06 (Open) http://norganna.org/BCNT-50
18:21.23norgjiraBug 03BCNT-45 10kandoko: Received this error upon opening mailbox. 06 (Open) http://norganna.org/BCNT-45
18:21.24RockSlicedisable those, and swatter will enable, showing the error in a much more useful form
18:22.00GnBanditoCI5here i will make a list of all the addons I have installed, that is if noone minds the list being posted
18:22.28RockSlicenorganna.pastey.net is what we use for long posts
18:22.33norgjiraBug 03BCNT-44 10kandoko: Error when opening mailbox06 (Open) http://norganna.org/BCNT-44
18:23.27GnBanditoCI5http://www.ci5squad.com/list.txt
18:23.37GnBanditoCI5thats the list of addons I currently have installed
18:24.24norgjiraBug 03BCNT-45 10kandoko: Received this error upon opening mailbox. 06 (Resolved/Duplicate) http://norganna.org/BCNT-45
18:24.25norgjiraBug 03BCNT-44 10kandoko: Error when opening mailbox06 (Open) http://norganna.org/BCNT-44
18:24.59GnBanditoCI5by the way, just want to take the opportunity to say, GREAT WORK guys with auctioneer, its an addon that I have used for years and couldnt live without, much props
18:25.56newnickit makes me a much more powerfull investment broker
18:26.23RockSlicelet's see...  GFW_DisenchantPredictor you don't need.  Enchantrix can do that for you, which you already have loaded.   Still looking for the error reporter
18:26.58RockSlicewhat does CCBreaker do?
18:28.25GnBanditoCI5be aware rock, I just realized that I had swatter disabled for some reason, and yea, i JUST installed Disenchant predict just now, thought I had it previously, and realized that i dont need it as well...ill get rid of it now, reason I did install it was I was updating the hunter addons from fizzwidgets
18:28.54RockSliceah
18:28.58CIA-24auctioneer: 03kandoko * r2550 10BeanCounter/BeanCounterFrames.lua:
18:28.58CIA-24auctioneer: Continues BCNT-51
18:28.58CIA-24auctioneer: Corrected global to local 722 and tbl at line 764
18:29.22GnBanditoCI5ccbreaker shows text letting you know who broke a crowd control spell...for instance..if I root something, and someone breaks it..it says in chat... x player broke root with fireball etc
18:29.37RockSliceuseful
18:29.52GnBanditoCI5yup, so you can pimp smack the tasrd who keeps breking sheep..LOL
18:29.53RockSliceI may have to get that, but I'm low on memory as it is
18:31.12GnBanditoCI5ccbreaker can be found at wowace http://files.wowace.com/cat-interface-enhancements.html
18:31.22norgjiraBug 03BCNT-42 10kandoko: Correcting 2 accidental global variables06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://norganna.org/BCNT-42
18:36.49GnBanditoCI5hey rock, you still here?
18:37.11RockSliceyup
18:38.27GnBanditoCI5seems as though ct addon is causing alot of my errors according to swatter, but I copied 2 error messages looks like auctioneer is causing and copied them to text for ya...here ya go http://www.ci5squad.com/error.txt
18:38.48GnBanditoCI5both on same text doc
18:39.59RockSliceit looks like you have an old build of AucClassic loaded as well as the current Advanced build
18:40.40RockSlicetry disableing "Auctioneer" (the AucClassic-specific addon), or download the newest version
18:42.33CIA-24auctioneer: 03ccox * r2551 10Informant/ (InfCommand.lua InfMain.lua InfStrings.lua InfTooltip.lua): (fixes INF-2) add option to informant to show/hide the name in the secondary tooltip (redundant)
18:42.37GnBanditoCI5shall I go in and delete all auctioneer folders then reinstall the AuctioneerAdvancedSuite-5.0.PRE.2544
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18:44.46RockSlicefor now, just disable/delete "Auctioneer"  - not the package, just that particular folder/addon
18:45.09RockSliceand if you still want AucClassic, reinstall that.
18:46.22norgjiraImprovement 03INF-2 10ccox: Add informant option to hide display of item name06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://norganna.org/INF-2
18:48.02GnBanditoCI5well the reason I even have the classic installed is this...when the new patch came out, auctioneer didnt work...so I always used just the basic auctioneer addon, dev versions...so i tried updating to the newest classic version forst, and for some reason it still was not working...so i then just installed the advanced suite
18:48.23norgjiraBug 03INF-3 10Norganna: Vendor prices still wrong on ?Outland items?.06 (Open) http://norganna.org/INF-3
18:48.35GnBanditoCI5i didnt realize that they were in essence different, and thus allows you to install both
18:48.52GnBanditoCI5just tried to overwrite when upgrading to advanced
18:48.53RockSliceThe Classic and Advanced versions are designed to run side-by-side
18:49.00GnBanditoCI5ahh gotcha
18:49.51GnBanditoCI5speeking of which...i have a auctioneer question for ya...i noticed the text in the AH for items is MUCH smaller these days....no offence...but err..my eyes bleed when looking at it..lol..any way to adjust the font myself?
18:50.41RockSlicego to the Auctioneer settings (the coins on the slidebar - or the button on appraiser tab) - Util - CompactUI
18:50.52RockSliceand you can switch back to the Blizzard look
18:51.07GnBanditoCI5ahh gotcha..kk ty
18:52.31GnBanditoCI5one final question....about swatter...is it possible to not disable swatter, but HIDE it?...as I said getting alot of errors with addons that havent been properly fixed since patch...and seems like every mouse move I get swatter popping up in my face
18:53.13RockSlicenot sure.  does {/swat} give any options?  or {/swat help}
18:53.20GnBanditoCI5let me check
18:54.18RockSlicepersonally, I'd disable any that continually bug out until they're updated, seeing as they'll just be taking up memory
18:55.25GnBanditoCI5i hear ya, gimme a sec to verify swatter settings ability, currently uninstalling classic auctioneer
18:59.20norgjiraBug 03INF-4 10Norganna: Stack price not being calclulated correctly on high-end vendor purchased arrows and bullets06 (Open) http://norganna.org/INF-4
19:01.57GnBanditoCI5hmm /swat help gives commands that you can ...enable,disable,show,autoshow,noauto,warn,nowarn and clear
19:02.13GnBanditoCI5no hide option
19:02.18RockSliceyou might try nowarn
19:02.27RockSliceor noauto
19:02.45GnBanditoCI5disabled swatters blocked warnings is what it says that command does
19:02.50GnBanditoCI5disables*
19:03.31RockSlicesounds right
19:04.32GnBanditoCI5well, when I first started the game swatter came up with a few errors...I closed, and tried to get it to pop back up, mousing over stuff and opening options, screens etc...and it seems to be behaving now
19:05.13GnBanditoCI5kk rock, I sincerely appreciate your time in helping me today, yo da man !
19:05.30RockSlicenp
19:06.02GnBanditoCI5you a dev, or just really helpfull and knowledgeable?
19:06.11RockSlicedev
19:06.37GnBanditoCI5kk, in that case, again I state for the record, GREAT work....great addon...keep up the good work
19:06.59GnBanditoCI5./salute
19:07.23RockSlicety, even though I only joined the team a little while ago
19:07.58GnBanditoCI5hey, even if just for your knowledge and effort in helping those who need the help like myself, your a great addition
19:09.04GnBanditoCI5kk, im gunna bounce, again ty for the help brother....peace 4 now all
19:09.12GnBanditoCI5Bandito Outie
19:10.48MentalPower|Foodlua> "Hello World!"
19:10.48lua_botMentalPower|Food: Hello World!
19:15.20norgjiraNew Feature 03APPR-50 10dinesh: Add ability to bid/BO items from appraiser competition frame06* (Unconfirmed) http://norganna.org/APPR-50
19:22.41FireryRageooooh, very good feature :D
19:25.16Kaphene2hello mentalPower food
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19:45.53Chuck_0003hello ?
19:46.05RockSlicehi
19:46.19Chuck_0003can you tell me why i cannot put new auctions on the AH after last week's patch
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19:47.13RockSlicehave you updated?
19:48.46Chuck_0003i downloaded the new preview release thing
19:49.07RockSliceAucAdvanced or Classic?
19:49.32Chuck_0003i think advanced
19:49.57RockSliceAre you using the "Auctions" tab (Blizzard) or "Appraiser" tab (Auctioneer)?
19:50.02Chuck_0003auctions
19:50.08RockSliceuse appraiser
19:50.25Chuck_0003so i should download classic?
19:50.59RockSliceAucAdvanced uses the Appraiser tab for posting auctions
19:51.24Chuck_0003okay i'll give classic a try
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19:54.01Chuck_0003nice it works
19:54.05Chuck_0003thanks Rockslice :-D
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20:08.35Kaphene2whatsup mental power
20:08.53MentalPowerKaphene2: not much Kaphene2, you?
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20:09.16Kaphene2someone told me I should speak to you about an application I posted on the forum
20:10.30Kaphene2dinesh did
20:11.02MentalPowerwhat application?
20:11.18Kaphene2http://norganna.org/discuss/discussion/5569/application-qaart/#Item_0
20:12.28MentalPower~recruitmentdrive
20:12.44RockSlice~recruitingdrive
20:12.45purlIf you would like to apply for a position on the auctioneer team, please read http://norganna.org/wiki/Organizational_Chart and determine that you fit the bill for the spot for which you are applying. Then, make sure you have an active forum account. Once that is done, /join #Norganna-Dev and give your forum name to one of the ops in that channel.
20:12.52MentalPower~lart RockSlice
20:12.52purlwhips out a sword and chops RockSlice in half
20:12.54MentalPower:P
20:12.58Kaphene2i already read that purl
20:13.10MentalPowercool, then /join #Norganna-Dev
20:13.13Kaphene2oh i need to join dev
20:13.14RockSlice~lart MentalPower
20:13.15purlfollow's MentalPower with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION
20:13.49MentalPower~bzshield me
20:14.06MentalPower~bzfrag RockSlice
20:14.07purlACTION makes RockSlice feel the effects of a shockwave
20:21.21norgjiraBug 03CLAS-27 10: Unable to create an auction in the Auctions tab06 (Open) http://norganna.org/CLAS-27
20:26.20norgjiraBug 03UCUT-1 10testlek: error in Auc-Match-Undercut (2514)06 (Need Info) http://norganna.org/UCUT-1
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20:36.09Srayyay, i'm on wow
20:36.18Srayanyone there?
20:39.43MentalPowerdefine there
20:39.50Sraylol
20:40.56Srayi just updgraded auct_stat_simple...but now i get "debug 1","debug2".....etc. to "debug 10" for my lines of prices, not sure why
20:41.46MentalPowerthose lines are from Auc-Stat-Debug (gasp!)
20:42.01Srayoh, my fault
20:42.11Srayi just enabled all addons not realizing
20:42.28Sraydon't make fun of me =(   trying to secure my addon as a working model
20:42.51MentalPowersorry
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20:45.38Sray_sorry, got disc...what did you say?
20:46.03MentalPowersorry
20:46.09MentalPowerthats all I said
20:46.12Sray_oh ok
20:46.15Sray_=)
20:46.31Sray_so auct_stat_debug loaded on top of my auct_stat_simple model?
20:48.27MentalPowernop, they load concurrently
20:48.33MentalPowerall of the stats modules do
20:48.43Sray_well my stats are showing and there's no errors in swatter, so i'm not sure why
20:48.59Sray_aren't*
20:49.03MentalPowerwere you expecting something else?
20:49.17Sray_i meant to say aren't showing
20:49.20norgjiraBug 03BCNT-52 10kandoko: We no longer monitor default AH search frame to search BC as well. 06 (Open) http://norganna.org/BCNT-52
20:50.05MentalPowerSray have you done any scans, do you have enough data to show?
20:50.43Sray_just did 2 scans concurrently...nothing from the old simple model (which runs along side the new simple model in the same module)
20:50.59MentalPowerthats a bad idea
20:51.07MentalPowerboth models in the same module
20:51.14Sray_it's hard to explain
20:51.15MentalPowerits not that hard to create a new module, honest
20:51.18CIA-24auctioneer: 03kandoko * r2552 10BeanCounter/BeanCounter.lua:
20:51.18CIA-24auctioneer: fixes BCNT - 52
20:51.18CIA-24auctioneer: REVERTS the changes made in http://fisheye.norganna.org/changelog/Auctioneer/?cs=2540 .
20:51.18CIA-24auctioneer: Removal of the standard AH frame searches also searching BC.
20:51.47Sray_i only added 2 new lines for enhtooltip in the simple model, and connected the 2 to save time on averaging
20:52.20norgjiraBug 03BCNT-52 10kandoko: We no longer monitor default AH search frame to search BC as well. 06 (Open) http://norganna.org/BCNT-52
20:53.01Sray_ug, i gotta go to work, i'll have to deal with it later
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20:53.21norgjiraBug 03BCNT-52 10kandoko: We no longer monitor default AH search frame to search BC as well. 06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://norganna.org/BCNT-52
20:53.37Sray_i think it has someting to do with it not seeing the items for more than 1 day...or something
20:53.57Sray_cuz i deleted my savedvariables to start fresh
20:54.11Sray_cya
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20:55.32mattbnrhello all ive been gone for liek 3 days whats new
21:00.24norgjiraImprovement 03ADV-90 10kandoko:  provide a callback when a search is performed for other addons. So they can know if search is Auc initiated or user initiated06* (Unconfirmed) http://norganna.org/ADV-90
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21:14.07WendelinWhere may I posted suggestions?
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21:18.52CIA-24auctioneer: 03Norganna * r2553 10Auc-Advanced/CoreScan.lua: Add callback to provide notification when a query is sent (ADV-90)
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21:20.22norgjiraPollution 03auctioneer r2553 10Norganna: Auc-Advanced/CoreScan.lua has a new global variable: query at line 990
21:23.44CIA-24auctioneer: 03Norganna * r2554 10Auc-Advanced/CoreScan.lua: Remove pollution (ADV-90)
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21:52.51mattbnri see the scan time is back to liek 9 a sec like a 15 min scan
21:54.18ccoxmatt - it would help if you told us WHICH scan time you were referring to
21:54.20mattbnrwhat happened to the 2-3 min scans?
21:54.30mattbnrauction house full scan
21:55.08ccoxwith auc-adv or auc classic, or auctioneer 4.0.x ?
21:55.24mattbnrwell 4.05 isnt working to my knowledge and im using aadv
21:55.41mattbnror has it been fixed in the last 3 days since i was away?
21:56.00RockSliceif you've been away for 3 days, please update
21:56.10mattbnri jsut did i got the latest form the dev pages
21:56.16mattbnri just did*
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22:52.46kaayis the team still looking for devs?
22:52.49CIA-24auctioneer: 03kandoko * r2555 10BeanCounter/BeanCounterMail.lua:
22:52.49CIA-24auctioneer: Conitnues BCNT-32 Fixes BCNT-44
22:52.49CIA-24auctioneer: Rewrote "Mail Re-Color" logic. We now better handle marking mail messages
22:52.49CIA-24auctioneer: containing the same item in sequence in the mailbox after one of the items is
22:52.50CIA-24auctioneer: removed. We no longer use Diff() to do recursive processing on the mailbox so
22:52.52CIA-24auctioneer: mass mail removal should no longer error.
22:57.23norgjiraBug 03BCNT-44 10kandoko: Error when opening mailbox06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://norganna.org/BCNT-44
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22:59.41CIA-24auctioneer: 03kandoko * r2556 10BeanCounter/BeanCounterMail.lua:
22:59.41CIA-24auctioneer: Conitnues BCNT-32
22:59.41CIA-24auctioneer: left a debug message set to print() rather than debugPrint()
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