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| 00:02.32 | Nechckn | Hi there Hobodave and Jenna! |
| 00:04.28 | hobodave | hello |
| 00:04.35 | hobodave | are you a bot or is that a genuine hello? |
| 00:04.48 | Nechckn | That was a genuine Hello hobodave |
| 00:04.57 | hobodave | haha ok |
| 00:05.02 | Nechckn | Some may suggest I am a bot.. don't believe 'em |
| 00:05.11 | Jennaelf | Possibly silly question - is there anyway to revert the "Browse" view to the original larger print/icon view? The tiny print is going to make me blind. |
| 00:05.24 | MentalPower | Nechckn is our resident turin-passing bot |
| 00:05.25 | Kandoko | ~Nechckn off |
| 00:05.27 | Jennaelf | And hello! My reaction ther eis a little slow. |
| 00:05.40 | Nechckn | Yes.. in options disable the CompactUI |
| 00:05.44 | MentalPower | turing* |
| 00:05.59 | hobodave | so you guys need developers? |
| 00:06.03 | Nechckn | That is the thing that is cramming all your info in... though some love it.. some can't see it =) |
| 00:06.12 | Nechckn | hobodave why yes!! are u interested? |
| 00:06.16 | hobodave | I am |
| 00:06.43 | Nechckn | Swing over to /join #Norganna-Dev and we'll grill ya! j/k come on over |
| 00:07.38 | Nechckn | Jennaelf that should help.. also.. one sec I have one other tidbit for ya... |
| 00:08.08 | norgjira | Task 03GATH-17 10Esamynn: Add all strings to Localizer06 (Open) http://norganna.org/GATH-17 |
| 00:09.05 | Nechckn | Jennaelf third question from the end on http://norganna.org/discuss/discussion/3266/auctioneer-support-faq |
| 00:09.08 | Jennaelf | Thank you! I like all the info, but I also love my eyes. Today, my eyes win. Loving the extra stuff in the Advanced. |
| 00:09.10 | norgjira | New Feature 03ADV-74 10RockSlice: Add mouse hooks for searching06 (Unconfirmed) http://norganna.org/ADV-74 |
| 00:09.11 | norgjira | New Feature 03APPR-42 10RockSlice: Add mouse hooks for selecting and posting06* (Unconfirmed) http://norganna.org/APPR-42 |
| 00:09.36 | Nechckn | That may give you enough reading room to be able to still use the extra goodies in CompactUT.. if not, now u know u can turn the sucker off ;-) |
| 00:10.31 | Nechckn | Jennaelf Awesome to hear you are liking the additions.. nearly a year and countless hours of vol efforts have gone into making it what it is, and updates are being made like crazy stull |
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| 00:10.55 | Nechckn | Jennaelf Be sure to check back often auctioneeraddon.com/dl/#Preview |
| 00:11.07 | CIA-MIA | auctioneer: 03RockSlice * r2512 10Auc-Util-Appraiser/AprFrame.lua: |
| 00:11.07 | CIA-MIA | auctioneer: Resolves issue [APPR-42]: adds mouse hooks for selecting and posting from bags |
| 00:11.07 | CIA-MIA | auctioneer: Alt-click: selects item |
| 00:11.07 | CIA-MIA | auctioneer: Alt-Shift-click: posts that stack with Appraiser's cost settings |
| 00:11.07 | norgjira | Bug 03GATH-19 10Esamynn: GatherMiniNotes.lua line 217: attempt to compare nil with number06 (Open) http://norganna.org/GATH-19 |
| 00:11.09 | MentalPower | ~lart Syriphina |
| 00:11.09 | purl | drops a humongous exploding nuke on Syriphina |
| 00:12.05 | Nechckn | look out... Purl is angry and must be given a sacrifice!!! |
| 00:12.09 | norgjira | Bug 03GATH-19 10Esamynn: GatherMiniNotes.lua line 217: attempt to compare nil with number06 (Open) http://norganna.org/GATH-19 |
| 00:12.10 | norgjira | New Feature 03APPR-42 10RockSlice: Add mouse hooks for selecting and posting06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://norganna.org/APPR-42 |
| 00:12.17 | jona_0063 | hi guys just recieved another error report http://norganna.pastey.net/77438 |
| 00:12.23 | Jennaelf | Absolutely. This is the only addon (the bundle) that I use with WoW, and I try to make sure I keep it up to date. It makes things so much easier. |
| 00:12.53 | Nechckn | Jennaelf great.. and be sure to let us know of any errors, if you don't see them in the message boards |
| 00:13.06 | CIA-MIA | auctioneer: 03RockSlice * r2513 10Auc-Advanced/CoreMain.lua: |
| 00:13.07 | CIA-MIA | auctioneer: resolves issue [ADV-74]: add mouse hooks for searching from itemlinks/bag items |
| 00:13.07 | CIA-MIA | auctioneer: Alt-Rightclick on item |
| 00:13.07 | CIA-MIA | auctioneer: Alt-click on chat links |
| 00:13.10 | Nechckn | jona_0063 Hi again.. just a few while we take a look under the hood! |
| 00:14.08 | norgjira | New Feature 03ADV-74 10RockSlice: Add mouse hooks for searching06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://norganna.org/ADV-74 |
| 00:17.06 | MentalPower | echo |
| 00:17.07 | norgjira | Bug 03GATH-19 10Esamynn: GatherMiniNotes.lua line 217: attempt to compare nil with number06 (Open) http://norganna.org/GATH-19 |
| 00:17.08 | norgjira | Improvement 03GATH-6 10Esamynn: Record Indoor/Outdoor status of nodes06 (Open) http://norganna.org/GATH-6 |
| 00:18.10 | norgjira | Improvement 03GATH-10 10Esamynn: Make Peer-to-Peers (P2P) sharing eaiser06 (Open) http://norganna.org/GATH-10 |
| 00:19.38 | Nechckn | jona_0063 is that a file you downloaded not via the main auctioneeraddon.com/dl/#Preview page? |
| 00:20.10 | norgjira | Improvement 03GATH-6 10Esamynn: Record Indoor/Outdoor status of nodes06 (Open) http://norganna.org/GATH-6 |
| 00:20.11 | norgjira | Bug 03GATH-23 10Esamynn: Error Message when changing areas06 (Closed) http://norganna.org/GATH-23 |
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| 00:22.57 | Nechckn | jona_0063 Here's what I need u to do.. whatever way is easier for you to do so... is to Close WoW then dig into ProgramFiles/WorldofWarcraft/Interface/Addons and delete the Auctioneer related files.. if you look on your pastey that is all except OneBag, v2.0.49995 |
| 00:22.57 | Nechckn | 26 OneRing, v2.0.50020 |
| 00:22.57 | Nechckn | 27 OneView, v2.0.50021 |
| 00:23.12 | Nechckn | and WoWecon |
| 00:24.10 | norgjira | Bug 03APPR-16 10Speeddymon: Appraiser needs to check for items which need repair before attempting to post06 (Open) http://norganna.org/APPR-16 |
| 00:24.24 | Luiniel | It does? |
| 00:24.26 | Nechckn | Then take a trip over to Auctioneeraddon.com/dl/#Preview and download the latest build.. it's been updated *alot* lately... Your scan data will not be affected, so that is a good thing, at least |
| 00:25.08 | norgjira | Bug 03APPR-16 10Speeddymon: Appraiser needs to check for items which need repair before attempting to post06 (Open) http://norganna.org/APPR-16 |
| 00:25.10 | Nechckn | Luiniel re: it does What's that? |
| 00:25.32 | Luiniel | Nechckn - the bug |
| 00:25.48 | Nechckn | Some people have the bugs.. others don't |
| 00:26.09 | Nechckn | What you are seeing are jsut the different HelpDesk type tickets whizz by |
| 00:26.16 | Nechckn | *just |
| 00:27.09 | Nechckn | Errors will occur if trying to post items that are not at 100%.. that is likely the issue with that one |
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| 00:30.47 | Esamynn|Work | bleeter: ooooh, is that the way you want it??? |
| 00:31.20 | jona_0063 | Nechckn do i need to delete wowecon also? |
| 00:31.50 | Nechckn | Nope.. keep just those ones listed that are non-auctioneer Wowecon, and the "one" addons |
| 00:31.56 | Nechckn | That should be ok... |
| 00:32.09 | norgjira | Bug 03GATH-2 10Esamynn: Battered Footlockers and droprates06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/GATH-2 |
| 00:32.35 | jona_0063 | kk i'll reinstall now. i have classic on my system do i need to remove even if i'm not using it? |
| 00:33.08 | Nechckn | yepper, please.. we've seen some crazy stuff |
| 00:33.45 | Nechckn | basically, what I'd do is make a new Addons folder, rename the current one OLDAddons, then just drag those 4 items into the new addons folder |
| 00:34.20 | Nechckn | The 4 being the "one" addons and WoWecon... then d/l the latest AAdv from the site |
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| 00:54.11 | norgjira | Bug 03APPR-36 10: When using the swicth UI botton "Post Items" remains disabled in "classic mode"06 (Need Info) http://norganna.org/APPR-36 |
| 00:56.42 | jona_0063 | nechckn it is still the same |
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| 00:58.55 | RockSlice | jona_0063: still "BtmScan\DeComp.lua line 165"? |
| 00:59.21 | jona_0063 | yes |
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| 01:00.14 | jona_0063 | sorry no this time it was line 127 but the code b4 this line was exactly the same code |
| 01:00.37 | RockSlice | the zip file from auctioneeraddon.com doesn't contain that file |
| 01:01.18 | jona_0063 | that is a eval module i created that worked prior to upgrade |
| 01:01.52 | RockSlice | then you will have to find the problem in that code, as it is not our code |
| 01:02.31 | RockSlice | we cannot fix problems in code we don't provide |
| 01:04.17 | jona_0063 | http://norganna.pastey.net/77440 is the section of code containing the line it says is at fault but as you can see from the lines prior to that line they are identical |
| 01:08.55 | Esamynn|Work | jona_0063: it's your code, we don't provide support for code we didn't write |
| 01:09.38 | Nechckn | jona_0063 that is if that is what the issue is... so are you saying that with the default intall it seems to be ok, but with the customized doo hickey it's not? |
| 01:09.46 | Syriphina | There are enough Gnomes to slay as it is. |
| 01:10.18 | Syriphina | "doo hickey" is the coolest "No idea what to call it" phrase of all time! :) |
| 01:10.39 | Nechckn | Syriphina indeed.. I like it! |
| 01:11.31 | Nechckn | jona_0063 if this only happens when you use the changes that used to work.. post on the msg board and someone will likely give a hand / suggestion once all the fires are out from the 2.3 changes. |
| 01:12.26 | Kandoko | RockSlice: Can I plagerize your alt clicking code for beancounter :P |
| 01:13.56 | RockSlice | I think I published under GPL, so sure |
| 01:16.09 | bleeter | I'm of half a mind to remove it, just leaving the names there in the dropdown with the word 'search data' above the dropdown, but not too sure |
| 01:16.11 | RockSlice | data, yes |
| 01:16.11 | norgjira | Bug 03CLAS-34 10morpheusdead: AucClassic scans too quickly for Bottomscanner06 (Open) http://norganna.org/CLAS-34 |
| 01:16.35 | RockSlice | while you're at it, why not have it default to the current toon, rather than blank? |
| 01:17.00 | bleeter | should it default to current toon, or realm data? |
| 01:17.09 | norgjira | Bug 03GATH-24 10Esamynn: It is possible to lose the config window off the screen06* (Unconfirmed) http://norganna.org/GATH-24 |
| 01:18.10 | RockSlice | realm may be better |
| 01:18.37 | Syriphina | Hmm, that's a point, is there a way of cross-referencing two realms prices? |
| 01:18.40 | jona_0063 | i think i know what the problem is but cant understand why its happening. as fro it being code i wrote it is also the fore runner for your enchant mats module |
| 01:18.54 | Syriphina | Or, just as handy, two factions on the same server |
| 01:19.39 | Nechckn | jona_0063 cool, then we'd have to ask you to post the question on the msg board,etc.. as I said above |
| 01:19.55 | bleeter | RockSlice: when I get some internets back, I'll look at fixing that up :) |
| 01:20.09 | norgjira | Bug 03GATH-24 10Esamynn: It is possible to lose the config window off the screen06 (Open) http://norganna.org/GATH-24 |
| 01:20.35 | bleeter | Syriphina: er, there used to be a way. I'm not sure whether that's implemented in the AAdv featureset atm, I'm aware there's some issue regarding askprice and neutral houses |
| 01:24.10 | norgjira | Improvement 03SBAR-2 10kadybug: Slidebar is difficult to find upon new installation06* (Unconfirmed) http://norganna.org/SBAR-2 |
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| 01:27.10 | norgjira | Improvement 03SBAR-2 10kadybug: Slidebar is difficult to find upon new installation06 (Unconfirmed) http://norganna.org/SBAR-2 |
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| 01:34.06 | Kandoko | Beancounter defaults to current server. even though drop down dosnt show it :P |
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| 01:37.07 | FlAWD | Just got an error! o_O |
| 01:37.38 | FlAWD | i was scanning the AH, on page 4, hit O to open my friend's list, and it paused the scan, and closed the auction house |
| 01:37.56 | FlAWD | so I right clicked on the auctioneer again, and when the auction house window opened i got this: http://norganna.pastey.net/77443 |
| 01:38.25 | Nechckn | Hi ther FlAWD we'll take a look under the hood.. one moment please |
| 01:39.29 | FlAWD | oh and it did not resume scanning either |
| 01:39.53 | RockSlice | FIAWD: please update. This bug has already been fixed |
| 01:39.59 | FlAWD | ah ok |
| 01:40.17 | FlAWD | you guys and your many many updates :P |
| 01:40.22 | Nechckn | auctioneeraddon.com/dl/#Preview then pick your poison of AC or AAdv |
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| 01:40.29 | FlAWD | Adv :D |
| 01:40.45 | RockSlice | i know, we keep fixing bugs just to keep people confused :) |
| 01:41.26 | gil-- | and i love answering questions on irc! |
| 01:41.35 | FlAWD | heh |
| 01:41.36 | gil-- | i was bombarded when yall were asleep |
| 01:42.00 | Nechckn | gil-- isn't it grand? =) |
| 01:42.01 | FlAWD | wait, bean counter wasn't in previous auc adv 5.0 releases? i didn't even notice :X |
| 01:42.09 | Nechckn | Yes, it's in now |
| 01:42.12 | FlAWD | i try to help when i can too :) |
| 01:42.23 | Nechckn | It wasn't for a wee bit |
| 01:42.45 | FlAWD | yea ... i was still running 3.x till about 2 weeks ago |
| 01:43.05 | FlAWD | then i completely redid my UI .. deleted all my saved variables and started over |
| 01:43.11 | FlAWD | that's when i got 5 .. and it's nice |
| 01:43.58 | FlAWD | http://www.flawd.biz/images/wow/addons.jpg o_O |
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| 01:45.49 | Nechckn | FlAWD my.. that is quite the list |
| 01:46.58 | FlAWD | yea |
| 01:47.12 | FlAWD | not all of them are active all the time, of course |
| 01:47.19 | FlAWD | and some of them are only for one character and such |
| 01:48.13 | Nechckn | I have alot.. but have multiple profiles.. such as only Auc clas, only Auc Adv, only Norganna family, only etc... you get the idea hehehe I loves me addons! |
| 01:48.26 | FlAWD | lol me too :D |
| 01:49.52 | marp | are either of the current preview versions supporting 48h auctions? |
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| 01:50.06 | gil-- | i know AA is |
| 01:50.11 | marp | dammit |
| 01:50.16 | marp | must be something broken with mine then :/ |
| 01:50.28 | marp | i still got 2 / 8 /24 |
| 01:50.34 | kadybug | WHen did you DL it? I updated this morning and can do 48 hour auctions. |
| 01:50.44 | marp | i downloaded 3min ago |
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| 01:51.16 | marp | AuctioneerAdvancedSuite-5.0.PRE.2505.zip |
| 01:51.26 | gil-- | did you delete your old auctioneer folders? |
| 01:51.32 | marp | nope |
| 01:54.19 | marp | ah |
| 01:54.23 | marp | and that seemed to make it work |
| 01:54.25 | marp | churr gil |
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| 02:06.30 | carolyn | Just a comment - I rarely make my money trying to find bargaains on the auction and reselling. The main reason I use auctioneer is because I sell the same crafted and gathered stacks repeatedly, and I also sell drops. My main reason for usin auctioneer is that it remembered what price I got previously for the same item. I need to know that to do business. If the day's prices are much lower than what I want to sell for, I wait for |
| 02:07.08 | norgjira | Task 03BCNT-37 10kandoko: Need to add alt clicking ability to Beancounter or configurator(addon wide)06 (Open) http://norganna.org/BCNT-37 |
| 02:07.18 | bleeter | carolyn: your message got chomped somewhere around 'for, I wait for' |
| 02:08.30 | carolyn | ok will try to retype after I find where it stopped |
| 02:08.36 | RockSlice | *RockSlice used to make most of his money from DE, but is being hindered by his enchanter only being lvl 31 |
| 02:09.48 | gil-- | use beancounter carolyn |
| 02:10.02 | bleeter | RockSlice: the most money to be made atm, at least to my mind, from DE is in lvl 35-50 shards |
| 02:10.31 | bleeter | competition tends to be pretty low, compared to the high end DE mats |
| 02:10.33 | carolyn | cont'd pt 2: If the day's prices are much lower than what I want to sell for, I wait for a better day. If the prices continue to get lower, I rethink whether my characters should be collecting or making something else. I rarely do anything complex with auctioneer and mainly depend on it to remember my sale prices. |
| 02:11.01 | carolyn | cont'd final part: Since advanced does not do that, I cannot use it, and I am sorry about that because I would love to have some (not all) of the new columns of information (really - does anybody need to know the mystical item level? Vision dust is item level 35 - it is meaningless) - only required level matters IMO. |
| 02:11.11 | FlAWD | wall o' text GO! |
| 02:13.28 | bleeter | ilvl is important for DE |
| 02:13.40 | carolyn | Best of all worlds I would like advanced, with the ability to turn off some search page columns, ability to change the alternating background colors under the auctions or put lines between the auction so I could read them, and have it save the last price I sold something for to a separate file and pull that up when I relist the same item. My wish list. |
| 02:14.05 | gil-- | use beancounter, and appraiser carolyn |
| 02:14.21 | Luiniel | bleeter - I never look at ilvl when I'm disenchanting, just at the Enchantrix specs. |
| 02:14.37 | bleeter | Luiniel: not all people use enchantrix (strange, but true) |
| 02:14.42 | CIA-MIA | auctioneer: 03kandoko * r2514 10BeanCounter/ (BeanCounter.lua BeanCounterFrames.lua BeanCounterMail.lua): |
| 02:14.42 | CIA-MIA | auctioneer: Adds BCNT-37 |
| 02:14.42 | CIA-MIA | auctioneer: When Beancounter is open Left clicking while holding ALT on an item in the players bag or on a hyperlink in chat will initiate a search. |
| 02:14.48 | bleeter | colour change? thought this was possible |
| 02:15.07 | Syriphina | Sadly, Blizz seem to love playing with Disenchanting behavior on a patch by patch basis. |
| 02:15.12 | bleeter | save prices last sold at? thought that worked out of the box (I very rarely sell, so can't say for sure) |
| 02:16.03 | Syriphina | It even felt like Enchanting level was making a difference yesterday as one of our 375 enchanters was getting far better quality materials out of DE'ing the same item as someone at 330ish |
| 02:16.09 | norgjira | Task 03BCNT-37 10kandoko: Need to add alt clicking ability to Beancounter or configurator(addon wide)06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://norganna.org/BCNT-37 |
| 02:16.13 | carolyn | working the auction is not my business - one day I have a stack of fel iron to sell, every 4 daya I have spellcloth, sometimes stacks of leather or a primal. I just need the saved price I last listed at. Maybe it didn;t sell and I want to lwer my price. |
| 02:16.30 | carolyn | *lower |
| 02:17.52 | Syriphina | I just goto apraiser, hit refresh and I'm happy :) |
| 02:18.27 | Syriphina | Even happier when there are none ;-) |
| 02:18.28 | carolyn | Anyway it was just comment - I will take a look at the two things I never used before to see if it is any more convenient than just having the price show up when I drag something to the sell window. |
| 02:18.55 | carolyn | ok |
| 02:19.06 | Kandoko | carolyn: Appraiser saves fixed prices by default so there's no checkbox. If you set a price that's what will be there when you post it again :) |
| 02:19.21 | marp | anyone use BTM here? |
| 02:19.33 | Speeddymon | i do sometimes |
| 02:19.44 | marp | i have never, ever seen it pop up with a bargain, have u? |
| 02:19.48 | carolyn | do you have a new version of auctioneer yet that won;t totally freeze my system whilst it overloads its stack? |
| 02:19.58 | Speeddymon | marp: what version you using? |
| 02:20.04 | marp | aucadv |
| 02:20.05 | Speeddymon | classic or advanced? |
| 02:20.11 | Speeddymon | okie, then yes i have |
| 02:20.12 | bleeter | carolyn: I believe that bug was fixed |
| 02:20.13 | carolyn | advanced, yesterday's version |
| 02:20.13 | gil-- | marp: make sure you set the modules on |
| 02:20.20 | Kandoko | And you were talking about having a different background color in compact UI to help distinguish lines? |
| 02:20.26 | carolyn | yes |
| 02:20.49 | gil-- | there are 2 tones of gray atm i believe |
| 02:20.52 | carolyn | to help separate the auctions - I was discussing this last night on here. |
| 02:21.10 | gil-- | a rainbow colored browse would give me another popped vein in the eye |
| 02:21.14 | Speeddymon | Kandoko: no she wants the separation like compactui does on the appraiser tab |
| 02:21.23 | Speeddymon | marp: you need to configure it.. look on the right, somewhere below the minimap for a vertical yellow bar on the edge of the screen.. point the mouse at that bar, and find the button for btmscan |
| 02:21.24 | RockSlice | the stack overflow hasn't been fixed, unless I missed seeing a commit |
| 02:21.31 | Speeddymon | RockSlice: no it has not |
| 02:21.35 | Speeddymon | you didnt miss anything |
| 02:21.49 | bleeter | oh, my bad then |
| 02:22.32 | RockSlice | however, it only happens if you pause or close the AH immediately after the page changes |
| 02:22.36 | carolyn | Yes two very close shades of gray and slim long colums - I like to visually scan for where left-to-right fast to make sure I am not looking at a price for a short stack when I want a full stack, etc. I also cannot easily look at just the buyouts vertically |
| 02:22.41 | Speeddymon | no theres another cause as well RockSlice: |
| 02:23.00 | RockSlice | ? |
| 02:23.09 | Speeddymon | http://jira.norganna.org/browse/ADV-68 |
| 02:23.50 | Speeddymon | even tho the 2 are the same error, they may not be interdependent |
| 02:23.55 | RockSlice | probably due to the pausing of the full scan |
| 02:24.38 | Speeddymon | it's possible. but this one doesn't mention anything about closing the ah window, like yours does |
| 02:24.39 | carolyn | yesterday I think it happened to me after I repeatedly hit the bid/buy price sort trying to figure out which was link I was used to in classic, then closed it by clicking the X inthe upper right (it was done sorting the page I was looking at) |
| 02:25.22 | carolyn | *link=like |
| 02:25.27 | carolyn | Last time I got the stack overload it was also after clicking the X to close |
| 02:26.42 | carolyn | Yesterday her I posted some error lines from the stack overflow and some from the error I got a few minutes before that. |
| 02:26.46 | carolyn | brb |
| 02:27.51 | Speeddymon | carolyn: the stack overflow is a known issue we are working on.. no need to repost the stuff (if that's what you were about to do) |
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| 02:30.53 | carolyn | I wasn't about to do anything. |
| 02:31.04 | carolyn | except leave - I guess |
| 02:31.04 | Speeddymon | k |
| 02:31.08 | Speeddymon | heh |
| 02:32.54 | gil-- | no thanks? |
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| 03:12.10 | norgjira | Improvement 03ADV-20 10RockSlice: Enhance AA to support click hooks06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://norganna.org/ADV-20 |
| 03:20.08 | norgjira | Improvement 03ADV-75 10RockSlice: Make click-hooks optional06* (Unconfirmed) http://norganna.org/ADV-75 |
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| 03:30.03 | carolyn | Hust a quick question - could not this in the docs... Is there any way to use APpraiser to evaluate the prices of an item that is not in your bags? Sometimes I have multiple stacks of something waiting in my mailbox for a good selling day, and and leave them there until the prices look good. |
| 03:30.08 | carolyn | *just |
| 03:31.12 | Speeddymon | carolyn: someone would have to write a module for it |
| 03:31.18 | Morph|ingame | yes carolyn |
| 03:31.21 | carolyn | ok |
| 03:31.48 | gil-- | shift and mouseover? |
| 03:31.48 | Morph|ingame | what did i just say yes to doh I was meaning yes go ahead |
| 03:31.57 | carolyn | I ried searching for the item first in the search and selecting it then going to appraiser, but that didn't do so I figured no. |
| 03:32.37 | carolyn | Shift and mouseover in the mailbox? |
| 03:33.11 | RockSlice | doesn't the tooltip already show the appraisal data? |
| 03:33.43 | Morph|ingame | i would think it would if appraisal tooltips are toggled on in the gui config |
| 03:33.56 | carolyn | ok - will look for that - have not done that since I got advanced - thanks |
| 03:44.45 | CIA-MIA | auctioneer: 03RockSlice * r2515 10/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Resolves issue [ADV-75]: makes click-hooks optional |
| 03:46.11 | norgjira | Improvement 03ADV-75 10RockSlice: Make click-hooks optional06 (Open) http://norganna.org/ADV-75 |
| 03:47.09 | norgjira | Improvement 03ADV-75 10RockSlice: Make click-hooks optional06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://norganna.org/ADV-75 |
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| 04:04.09 | norgjira | New Feature 03BTMS-37 10RockSlice: Create IgnoreItemQuality filter06* (Unconfirmed) http://norganna.org/BTMS-37 |
| 04:22.10 | norgjira | Improvement 03ADV-20 10Nechckn: Enhance AA to support click hooks06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/ADV-20 |
| 04:24.21 | norgjira | Bug 03ENX-2 10Nechckn: debugPrint error in Enchantrix06 (Closed/Duplicate) http://norganna.org/ENX-2 |
| 04:24.21 | norgjira | Bug 03BTMS-7 10Nechckn: BTM DE nil value error06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/BTMS-7 |
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| 04:32.08 | gil-- | hmmm, i cleared the data (or so it said) on an item manually, then did a manual scan, yet the numbers are still the same .. shuoldnt these be updated to only that seen with the scan? |
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| 04:46.02 | sag_ich_nicht | http://norganna.pastey.net/77456 this issue already known? |
| 04:46.15 | sag_ich_nicht | (WTB less-spammy error reports from stubby >_<) |
| 04:47.07 | Nechckn | Hello sag_ich_nicht Please hold one whilst we look under the hood |
| 04:47.39 | Morph|ingame | hmm llotlink |
| 04:47.51 | Morph|ingame | lootlink even |
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| 04:48.30 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5608-SaerissLootLink.html this with this patch: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7233.html |
| 04:50.06 | Morph|ingame | well it looks to me like lootlink is trying to call enhtooltip but has a bad value in lootlink so its erroring but IDK I am not a coder 8) |
| 04:50.32 | Nechckn | stubby is just displaying the error.. the rest is all info about that. Stubby is only catching it |
| 04:51.08 | Nechckn | Do you have the most recent (today) version of Auctioneer and Enchantrix? |
| 04:51.19 | Morph|ingame | 2505 |
| 04:53.01 | sag_ich_nicht | [05:50] <@Nechckn> stubby is just displaying the error.. the rest is all info about that. Stubby is only catching it <--i know. doesn't change that spamming ChatFrame1 is damn annoying and i can't do anything about it. |
| 04:53.21 | sag_ich_nicht | hold Nechckn, didn't notice the new release |
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| 04:56.47 | Morph|ingame | if you really dont want to see errors in your chat log sag_ich_nicht then simply disable !swatter in your addons screen on character select and you wont see the errors anymore but I really wouldnt suggest that |
| 04:58.35 | gil-- | omg my "make money" button isnt working! i think i broke btm!!!! noessss haha ... hmmm, time to fix |
| 04:58.53 | Morph|ingame | LOL |
| 04:59.36 | gil-- | time filter doesnt override for BO yet right? |
| 05:00.07 | sag_ich_nicht | Morph|ingame: i don't want the errors to not show, i want them to show somewhere else. :/ |
| 05:00.31 | sag_ich_nicht | Nechckn: still happens with build 2505 |
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| 05:00.59 | Nechckn | sag_ich_nicht The basic thing is to be sure you have the latest Enchatrix and other Auctioneer items.. then see if you still get the same error. If so, you can let the dev of Lootlink know about the error. |
| 05:01.21 | sag_ich_nicht | actually |
| 05:01.22 | sag_ich_nicht | hold |
| 05:01.52 | Nechckn | If you feel like going one step further, you can disable all addons accept for those relating to Auc and Enchantrix and verifying that you do/don't get the error.. which if you have the most current build should not happen. |
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| 05:03.14 | Morph|ingame | if you disable !swatter they still show just not in your chat frame they go to the default Bliz popup window which is infinitly more annoying and is why !swatter was made |
| 05:04.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Morph|ingame: i |
| 05:04.16 | sag_ich_nicht | damn you, enter key |
| 05:04.25 | sag_ich_nicht | Morph|ingame: i'm using bugsack tho :P |
| 05:04.49 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway, error message isn't actually the same in the new build |
| 05:04.52 | Morph|ingame | ah then they wouldnt go to the bloz frame at all then |
| 05:05.16 | sag_ich_nicht | no, it just goes to ChatFram1, in orange, flooding away my guildchat out of sight. |
| 05:05.46 | sag_ich_nicht | *ChatFrame1 |
| 05:06.10 | sag_ich_nicht | http://norganna.pastey.net/77458 |
| 05:06.13 | Morph|ingame | shouldnt with swatter turned off that is what swatter does justa sec let me check something |
| 05:06.21 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm i' |
| 05:06.37 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm lemme check something as well |
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| 05:12.01 | Morph|ingame | ok verified |
| 05:12.13 | Morph|ingame | i creeated an error and turned off swatter no spammy orange text in chat but bugsack/buggrabbeer did get the errors |
| 05:13.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Morph|ingame: nope |
| 05:13.03 | sag_ich_nicht | swatter disabled |
| 05:13.11 | sag_ich_nicht | spammy text in ChatFrame1 |
| 05:14.21 | Morph|ingame | sec |
| 05:14.21 | Nechckn | sag_ich_nicht if u disable bugsack what do u get then?? |
| 05:14.50 | Morph|ingame | its lootlink causign the error i know if he disables that the error will go away |
| 05:15.01 | Morph|ingame | but as to stop his orange spammy text idk checking |
| 05:15.24 | MentalPower | Morph|ingame, Nechckn, sag_ich_nicht: The orange text is from Stubby not Swatter |
| 05:15.29 | sag_ich_nicht | MentalPower: i know |
| 05:15.31 | sag_ich_nicht | i already told them that |
| 05:15.34 | sag_ich_nicht | they wouldn't listen |
| 05:15.45 | MentalPower | lol, sorry bout that |
| 05:15.50 | sag_ich_nicht | [05:46] <sag_ich_nicht> (WTB less-spammy error reports from stubby >_<) |
| 05:16.41 | MentalPower | the only way to disable the stubby orange error text is to have swatter enabled |
| 05:16.58 | sag_ich_nicht | which it is, which still causes it, because i use bugsack |
| 05:17.29 | MentalPower | disable bugsack, swatter disables itself if it sees either bugsack or IEF enabled |
| 05:17.57 | sag_ich_nicht | MentalPower but i want bugsack as error catcher not swatter -_- |
| 05:19.02 | MentalPower | then you have two options, either run a macro to trick stubby into thinking swatter is installed or edit stubby so that it does not spam the chat frame |
| 05:20.04 | MentalPower | the macro will have to be run once per session, the modification will need to be done every time you update auctioneer |
| 05:20.07 | MentalPower | pick yer poison |
| 05:20.12 | sag_ich_nicht | i guess the former would make stubby not display the errors at all? |
| 05:20.36 | MentalPower | both will make stubby not report the errors |
| 05:20.43 | sag_ich_nicht | [06:20] <@MentalPower> the macro will have to be run once per session, the modification will need to be done every time you update auctioneer <--or i just smash it into luaslinger and execute it on PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD :P |
| 05:21.00 | sag_ich_nicht | [06:20] <@MentalPower> both will make stubby not report the errors <--which isn't really what i want either :/ |
| 05:21.13 | MentalPower | PLAYER_LOGIN is a better event for what you want |
| 05:21.20 | sag_ich_nicht | true enough |
| 05:21.48 | sag_ich_nicht | but still, i don't want to hide the errors, i want to put them somewhere where they don't annoy me while raiding until i have the time to look at them :/ |
| 05:21.49 | MentalPower | I guess the macro could be edited to redirect calls into bugsack instead |
| 05:22.05 | sag_ich_nicht | now that sounds better 8D |
| 05:22.16 | MentalPower | but I'd have to look at bugsack/buggrabber to see what to call |
| 05:22.24 | sag_ich_nicht | (i don't quite get why these errors don |
| 05:22.30 | sag_ich_nicht | 't go the default error route anyway) |
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| 05:23.20 | MentalPower | errors stop execution, which is usually good except when you're a hooking lib and would like to keep calling the rest of the hooks even if the first one bugs out |
| 05:23.53 | MentalPower | so the way around that is to wrap the calls in the xpcall() function which calls a specific function if an error occurs instead of killing execution |
| 05:24.07 | sag_ich_nicht | i see. :X |
| 05:24.11 | MentalPower | think of it as exception handling (if you've ever programmed) |
| 05:24.23 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah i get what it's for |
| 05:24.41 | MentalPower | which means that the standard error handling addons can't catch those errors |
| 05:25.05 | sag_ich_nicht | obviously |
| 05:25.07 | MentalPower | so we added some code in stubby to either call swatter or spam the chatframe when it encounters an error in that case |
| 05:27.27 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah, that's kinda obvious :P |
| 05:29.12 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-62 10testlek: Appraiser timestamp is incorrectly shown for items that are not present in the AH06 (Open) http://norganna.org/ADV-62 |
| 05:30.27 | sag_ich_nicht | so |
| 05:30.30 | Nechckn | sag_ich_nicht it's not that I was not believing you.. it's that I would rather see you see the error in whatever way, then be able to track down the offender and get it fixed is all. MP is trying to check the other thing now. |
| 05:30.54 | sag_ich_nicht | i wasn't talking about that Nechckn |
| 05:31.03 | sag_ich_nicht | we already tracked the error down to lootlink :P |
| 05:31.31 | sag_ich_nicht | oh wait |
| 05:31.31 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 05:31.34 | sag_ich_nicht | afopasjkfpoasf |
| 05:31.46 | Nechckn | That's cool, I understand what you mean.. it just seemed that it was something else is all. |
| 05:31.54 | sag_ich_nicht | just woke up :/ |
| 05:43.19 | MentalPower | sag_ich_nicht: I'm sorry, I just found that I have a moral conflict, I can't help you ATM until a change made to bugsack is reverted |
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| 05:49.20 | sag_ich_nicht | MentalPower: the disabling code in bugsack? didn't norganna have this discussion with ckknight already so ckknight added the one-time only message about disabling swatter? |
| 05:49.31 | sag_ich_nicht | or what? :X |
| 05:49.32 | Nechckn | Yes... |
| 05:49.49 | sag_ich_nicht | so... did something about that change again? |
| 05:49.53 | Nechckn | yes |
| 05:49.55 | MentalPower | sag_ich_nicht: look at revision 40473 |
| 05:50.10 | Morph|ingame | http://fish.wowace.com/search/WowAce/trunk/BugSack?comment=swatter&groupby=changeset&searchAllDirs=true |
| 05:50.50 | sag_ich_nicht | MentalPower: stab rabbit, not ckknight for it |
| 05:51.44 | sag_ich_nicht | (well, actually stab them both, rabbit for changing it, ckk for not reverting it) |
| 05:56.49 | Morph|ingame | ~seen Morph|ingame |
| 05:56.50 | purl | morph|ingame is currently on #wowi-lounge (14m 43s) #norganna (14m 43s) #wowace (14m 43s). Has said a total of 20 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen Morph|ingame'. |
| 05:56.50 | MentalPower | rabbit is not in IRC, and ckk is the dev responsible |
| 05:57.01 | Morph|ingame | cool LOL |
| 05:57.50 | Morph|ingame | why didnt it pick me up in dev purl not inther or is there alimit on number of returned channels? |
| 05:58.20 | MentalPower | it only recognizes where purl is |
| 06:00.03 | Morph|ingame | the imes are wrong too I been in #norganna alot longer than 14mins unless I disco'd and reconnected and didnt notice |
| 06:00.10 | Morph|ingame | imes=times |
| 06:01.11 | norgjira | Bug 03APPR-22 10Nechckn: Auc-Util-Undercut: error is returned when no marketprice is available06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/APPR-22 |
| 06:02.10 | norgjira | Improvement 03BTMS-16 10Nechckn: Feature Request: Top as well as bottom scanner.06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/BTMS-16 |
| 06:03.11 | norgjira | Task 03GATH-22 10Nechckn: Cleanup06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/GATH-22 |
| 06:04.08 | norgjira | Bug 03CLAS-32 10Nechckn: Scan time estimate wrong since 2.306 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/CLAS-32 |
| 06:05.11 | norgjira | Bug 03APPR-31 10Nechckn: Dropping item into slot doesn't work without anything already selected06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/APPR-31 |
| 06:06.10 | norgjira | Bug 03GATH-3 10Nechckn: localisation frFr bug06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/GATH-3 |
| 06:07.10 | norgjira | Bug 03APPR-39 10Nechckn: In alternate Appraiser view, stack & number editboxes don't lose focus on Enter or Esc06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/APPR-39 |
| 06:07.11 | norgjira | Improvement 03ADV-50 10Nechckn: Update time choices and labels for 2.3 changes06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/ADV-50 |
| 06:09.09 | norgjira | Bug 03APPR-26 10Nechckn: Not all pricing options behave well as "Default"06 (Closed/Duplicate) http://norganna.org/APPR-26 |
| 06:10.11 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-46 10Nechckn: When refreshing in appraiser, auctions that have been cancelled do not go away until it is clicked a second time.06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/ADV-46 |
| 06:11.09 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-52 10Nechckn: Scanning is causing a disconnect06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/ADV-52 |
| 06:13.09 | norgjira | Bug 03CNFG-2 10Nechckn: In windowed mode, user can drag and release Configuration frame beyond edge of screen.06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/CNFG-2 |
| 06:13.10 | norgjira | Bug 03BTMS-32 10Nechckn: Issue from code copied/pasted from Appraiser06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/BTMS-32 |
| 06:13.13 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-47 10Nechckn: in 2.3 - UIReload will cause AucAdv to attempt a GetAll, but not be allowed. 06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/ADV-47 |
| 06:15.11 | norgjira | New Feature 03BCNT-22 10Nechckn: Alpha test of the new Mail retrieval method, we now read all messages on mail box open.06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/BCNT-22 |
| 06:16.10 | norgjira | Bug 03BABL-1 10Nechckn: nil error in Classic06 (Closed/Duplicate) http://norganna.org/BABL-1 |
| 06:18.09 | norgjira | Improvement 03ADV-8 10Nechckn: Known Recipes (AH Advanced)06 (Closed/Won't Fix) http://norganna.org/ADV-8 |
| 06:19.11 | norgjira | Task 03ADV-12 10Nechckn: Add configurable market value algorithm (read: undercut replacement)06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/ADV-12 |
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| 06:20.00 | Morph|ingame | lol hi ckknight |
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| 06:20.16 | Kinesia | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:20.36 | ckknight | it's hard to say whether or not I'm still a head of wowace, MentalPower |
| 06:20.55 | Morph|ingame | oh wow that sucks 8( |
| 06:20.58 | MentalPower | oh? |
| 06:21.23 | ckknight | yea... |
| 06:21.39 | ckknight | some people have decided to go a different way |
| 06:21.54 | Morph|ingame | go a dif way you mean the ace3 crowd? |
| 06:22.07 | ckknight | that's part of it, but by no means the whole picture |
| 06:22.14 | ckknight | I've just grown so tired of all the infighting |
| 06:22.24 | ckknight | I refuse to participate in that aspect |
| 06:23.46 | Seb_0035 | what u talking about? if u don't mind me asking |
| 06:23.50 | Morph|ingame | yeah sometimes aggressive people trample the meek and ruin projects |
| 06:24.09 | norgjira | Bug 03BASC-2 10Nechckn: Auc-Filter-Basic: BasicFilter: Scan complete error (rev 2368)06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/BASC-2 |
| 06:24.10 | norgjira | Bug 03APPR-37 10Nechckn: "Show Appraisal in tooltip" option does nothing06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/APPR-37 |
| 06:24.13 | norgjira | New Feature 03SIMP-2 10Nechckn: Option to turn off simple stats module tooltip entries06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/SIMP-2 |
| 06:24.16 | norgjira | New Feature 03SDEV-5 10Nechckn: Option to turn off stats module tooltip entries06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/SDEV-5 |
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| 06:24.27 | Morph|ingame | geez nec you going crazy over there |
| 06:24.36 | Morph|ingame | Nechckn I mean |
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| 06:25.10 | norgjira | New Feature 03PURC-1 10Nechckn: Option to turn off purchased stats module tooltip entries06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/PURC-1 |
| 06:25.13 | ckknight | Morph|ingame, not to say that I'm meek or anything, I'm just so tired of the politics, it grew to take up more time than coding itself |
| 06:25.20 | ckknight | which is just wrong |
| 06:26.09 | Kinesia | Indeed. |
| 06:26.11 | norgjira | New Feature 03SDBG-1 10Nechckn: Option to turn off debug stats module tooltip entries06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/SDBG-1 |
| 06:26.24 | Morph|ingame | ckknight well that sucks I think most of your mods are great hope you dont abandon them |
| 06:26.34 | ckknight | I won't |
| 06:27.00 | ckknight | and if I do decide to leave one day, my mods will be assigned to certain people to maintain them, so at least someone will be in charge and there won't be a bazillion forks |
| 06:27.29 | Morph|ingame | nick Morphpheus|Dead |
| 06:27.35 | Morph|ingame | gah |
| 06:27.48 | carolyn | one question - is there any current release or preview version of auc advanced or classic that does not have the stack overflow - I seem to get that just as a side effect of the way I click around |
| 06:28.12 | norgjira | Bug 03CLAS-31 10Nechckn: Mousover on item error06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/CLAS-31 |
| 06:28.13 | norgjira | Bug 03CLAS-36 10Nechckn: The list of subcategories for Trade Goods is not displaying the updated list for 2.306 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/CLAS-36 |
| 06:28.15 | Morpheus|Dead | no carolyn its still in the works 8( |
| 06:28.45 | carolyn | okay thanks |
| 06:29.11 | norgjira | Bug 03BCNT-36 10Nechckn: Error, when taking something out of the Mailbox06 (Closed/Fixed) http://norganna.org/BCNT-36 |
| 06:29.12 | carolyn | I may have to just use none for now |
| 06:29.23 | carolyn | good luck |
| 06:29.29 | Morpheus|Dead | LOL KK |
| 06:32.00 | Morpheus|Dead | *chirp |
| 06:32.33 | Morpheus|Dead | hehe so what would you do if you were us ckknight i mean that is effecting us pretty good |
| 06:32.48 | ckknight | wait, what? |
| 06:32.53 | ckknight | what's affecting you? |
| 06:33.03 | Morpheus|Dead | the !swatter kill ckknight |
| 06:33.07 | ckknight | oh |
| 06:33.15 | ckknight | bug the shit out of vhaarr |
| 06:34.25 | sag_ich_nicht | i doubt he'll change it, and mentalpower won't help me until rabbit changes it |
| 06:34.56 | Morpheus|Dead | it's not a matter of MentalPower won't its just it makes it soo much harder |
| 06:35.25 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight write a third party addon to redirect the errors from stubby into bugrabber. MentalPower, write code into swatter that kills bugsack unless explictly enabled using an option |
| 06:36.00 | sag_ich_nicht | -bugrabber +bugsack |
| 06:36.00 | MentalPower | I won't play dirty, killing other addons is not the way to g |
| 06:36.03 | MentalPower | go* |
| 06:36.09 | ckknight | I agree with you |
| 06:36.20 | ckknight | vhaarr just has a bit too much fanaticism in his veins |
| 06:36.39 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight who do you agree with ckknight? :P |
| 06:36.50 | sag_ich_nicht | because if you agree with MentalPower, you are outright lying :P |
| 06:37.06 | Morpheus|Dead | wouldnt the third party addon to redirect errors to bugsack work without killing bugsack |
| 06:37.10 | ckknight | hey, Shadowed is a fucknut |
| 06:37.21 | ckknight | I was merely fighting fire with fire |
| 06:37.28 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: lies |
| 06:37.38 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: you stuck my WoW in a true while loop |
| 06:37.49 | ckknight | were you using Shadowed's mod? |
| 06:38.01 | ckknight | Scrooge, that is |
| 06:38.09 | RLD_osx | just found a book that teaches finding fish. lvl 320. will gatherer incorp that into itself? |
| 06:38.19 | sag_ich_nicht | being the egoistical bastard that i am, yes. and it wasn't about the donate buttons, it was about getting talent data from people while not sending any :P |
| 06:38.36 | testleK | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:38.43 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht, and you can disable that in Rock. |
| 06:38.53 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: no, then i don't get data either :P |
| 06:39.02 | ckknight | then you are merely an asshole |
| 06:39.06 | ckknight | and this conversation is done |
| 06:39.11 | ckknight | I'm not dealing with trolls |
| 06:39.22 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: i know. but this point is futile anyway now |
| 06:39.26 | sag_ich_nicht | since /inspect has been upgraded |
| 06:39.27 | Morpheus|Dead | what mods are you gusy talking about? |
| 06:39.31 | sag_ich_nicht | so i killed scrooge |
| 06:40.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Morpheus|Dead: an addon that caused a lots of bawwwww and drama |
| 06:40.14 | Morpheus|Dead | ohh |
| 06:40.15 | sag_ich_nicht | it killed donate buttons and some syncing features out of Rock and Ace2 |
| 06:40.34 | Morpheus|Dead | name? |
| 06:40.39 | sag_ich_nicht | Scrooge |
| 06:40.45 | Morpheus|Dead | jusy curious if i used it prob not though |
| 06:40.50 | Morpheus|Dead | nope i didnt |
| 06:40.57 | sag_ich_nicht | it was created only for that purpose |
| 06:41.11 | Morpheus|Dead | oh to kill donate buttons only ? |
| 06:41.18 | Morpheus|Dead | well thats stupid |
| 06:41.19 | sag_ich_nicht | (and some syncing features) |
| 06:41.24 | ckknight | originally just donate buttons |
| 06:41.28 | ckknight | syncing was added later |
| 06:41.46 | sag_ich_nicht | i didn't get it for the donate buttons, shadow actually later added options so you could select what you wanted to block |
| 06:41.50 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 06:42.05 | sag_ich_nicht | *shadowed |
| 06:42.32 | Morpheus|Dead | some someone made a mod to kill donate buttons in their own mod they could easily just not click and to stop there own outward syncing but still receive data form otheres sync? |
| 06:42.42 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 06:42.59 | MentalPower | sag_ich_nicht, Morpheus|Dead: no use beating a dead horse |
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| 06:43.11 | sag_ich_nicht | only Morpheus|Dead beating it :P |
| 06:43.14 | Morpheus|Dead | well i didnt mean their own mod I meant in mods installed on the users ui |
| 06:43.15 | MentalPower | if you want to discuss it, take it to PMs |
| 06:43.29 | sag_ich_nicht | yes pretty much it Morpheus|Dead. |
| 06:43.32 | Morpheus|Dead | i was just curious |
| 06:43.33 | sag_ich_nicht | now stop beating the dead horse |
| 06:43.34 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 06:43.37 | sag_ich_nicht | wb ckknight |
| 06:43.41 | sag_ich_nicht | which reminds me |
| 06:43.47 | ckknight | did I mention that Windows can blow me? |
| 06:44.02 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight have you considered adding support for the new inspect functionality into dogtags? |
| 06:44.10 | MentalPower | oh but windows does blow me, twice a day too |
| 06:44.18 | ckknight | considered it, sag_ich_nicht |
| 06:44.22 | sag_ich_nicht | and? |
| 06:44.37 | sag_ich_nicht | did you come to a conclusion about it? |
| 06:44.38 | ckknight | likelihood of "eventually" |
| 06:44.54 | sag_ich_nicht | i see. |
| 06:44.56 | ckknight | but I have irl priorities as well as a big secret project brewing |
| 06:45.09 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 06:45.15 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm going to look for a heroic group now |
| 06:45.27 | sag_ich_nicht | and when i'm done, i'll make quite a few authors go bawwwwwww |
| 06:45.35 | ckknight | I'm also still lvl 53 |
| 06:45.40 | ckknight | baw? |
| 06:45.42 | sag_ich_nicht | the patch is here |
| 06:46.17 | ckknight | I'm not fond of the WoW/Lua coding environment anymore |
| 06:46.39 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: Onomatopoeia for exaggerated crying |
| 06:46.58 | ckknight | okay then |
| 06:51.13 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: did you even log in since 2.3? |
| 06:51.22 | sag_ich_nicht | because your gear probably got upgraded for free |
| 06:51.30 | ckknight | not yet |
| 06:51.39 | ckknight | haven't played WoW for like 6 weeks |
| 06:51.43 | sag_ich_nicht | o_O |
| 06:51.52 | sag_ich_nicht | did you patch at least? :P |
| 06:51.57 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:52.01 | ckknight | just did |
| 06:52.20 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 06:52.21 | Morpheus|Dead | hey ckknight |
| 06:52.26 | ckknight | hey? |
| 06:52.59 | Morpheus|Dead | curious what was the deal with rock and fubar and cart and those patchs were they for if you didbnt want to use rock? |
| 06:53.13 | Morpheus|Dead | the batch files i mean |
| 06:53.20 | ckknight | batch files? |
| 06:53.28 | sag_ich_nicht | he is talking about the Ace2 works ckknight |
| 06:53.31 | sag_ich_nicht | *forks |
| 06:53.36 | ckknight | oh |
| 06:53.43 | ckknight | those aren't supported |
| 06:53.51 | Morpheus|Dead | cart and fubar is yours arent they? |
| 06:53.52 | ckknight | they're a political move more than anything |
| 06:53.53 | Kinesia | Well, I've appreciated your code ck, I couldn't care less about the politics side. |
| 06:53.56 | ckknight | and contradictory at that |
| 06:54.03 | ckknight | if I were to do it again, I wouldn't make them open source |
| 06:54.09 | ckknight | to prevent this sham |
| 06:54.28 | Morpheus|Dead | huh I like rock |
| 06:54.37 | Morpheus|Dead | I think it works very nicely |
| 06:54.41 | ckknight | I mean, my addons and all |
| 06:54.48 | ckknight | so that they couldn't be forked |
| 06:55.03 | ckknight | I made them GPL in the first place so that if anybody forked, it could be merged back in |
| 06:55.08 | ckknight | but that doesn't work for political movements |
| 06:55.50 | Morpheus|Dead | ok I ama tard most that know me know that but umm which is the fork and which is yours |
| 06:55.58 | Morpheus|Dead | the rock ones are yours right |
| 06:56.02 | ckknight | yes |
| 06:56.11 | ckknight | technically, it's all my code |
| 06:56.14 | ckknight | (pretty much) |
| 06:56.26 | ckknight | Cartographer1 is the Ace2 fork |
| 06:56.33 | ckknight | FuBar2 is the Ace2 fork |
| 06:56.38 | ckknight | neither of which are supported |
| 06:56.43 | ckknight | by me, at least |
| 06:56.59 | Morpheus|Dead | and those use the old non rock config kk I see |
| 06:57.08 | Morpheus|Dead | I use the rock one myself |
| 06:58.07 | Morpheus|Dead | I mean rock is kinda annoying cause of its size but.... the conveniance of havign all the options in one place far outweighs that |
| 06:58.11 | norgjira | New Feature 03ADV-76 10kinesia: BottomScanner's EvalAppraiser.lua should be incorporated into appraiser06 (Open) http://norganna.org/ADV-76 |
| 06:58.23 | ckknight | I hope you realize that that's just one small part of Rock |
| 06:58.27 | ckknight | you're referring to Rock Config |
| 06:58.32 | Morpheus|Dead | yeah i know |
| 06:58.50 | Morpheus|Dead | rock is actually syncing isnt it mainlky |
| 06:59.00 | ckknight | um, what? |
| 06:59.21 | Morpheus|Dead | umm idk what does rock do then exactly i have it but |
| 06:59.31 | ckknight | Rock is a conglomeration of different libraries |
| 07:00.00 | Morpheus|Dead | I thought rock was mainly libs and functions to help mods communicate and normalize data but idk |
| 07:00.15 | ckknight | yea, some libs help addons communicate |
| 07:00.22 | ckknight | RockDB handles data |
| 07:01.11 | norgjira | New Feature 03ADV-76 10kinesia: BottomScanner's EvalAppraiser.lua should be incorporated into appraiser06 (Open) http://norganna.org/ADV-76 |
| 07:01.13 | norgjira | Improvement 03BTMS-11 10kinesia: Enhance BTM to allow selection of pricing algorithm06 (In Progress) http://norganna.org/BTMS-11 |
| 07:01.20 | Morpheus|Dead | and cart man thats a nice addon that and auctioneer are by far the best addons there are inho |
| 07:01.42 | Morpheus|Dead | err imho even |
| 07:01.47 | CIA-MIA | auctioneer: 03Kinesia * r2516 10Auc-Advanced/CoreAPI.lua: ADV-76 Split Appraiser API into CoreAPI.lua and have both Appraiser frame and bottomscanner call that. |
| 07:01.54 | ckknight | :-) |
| 07:02.00 | ckknight | I'm very much pro-Auctioneer |
| 07:02.01 | ckknight | it's a good addon |
| 07:02.08 | Morpheus|Dead | well fubar is close up there too |
| 07:02.15 | CIA-MIA | auctioneer: 03Kinesia * r2517 10Auc-Util-Appraiser/AprFrame.lua: ADV-76 Split Appraiser API into CoreAPI.lua and have both Appraiser frame and bottomscanner call that. |
| 07:02.25 | Morpheus|Dead | but I cant live without cart and auctioneer period i would quit the game |
| 07:02.31 | ckknight | even though it's not under the "wowace umbrella", it's very good |
| 07:02.56 | CIA-MIA | auctioneer: 03Kinesia * r2518 10BtmScan/EvalAppraiser.lua: BTMS-11 Changed to use new Core API function |
| 07:03.09 | norgjira | Pollution 03auctioneer r2516 10Kinesia: Auc-Advanced/CoreAPI.lua has new global vars: _ and DiffFromModel at line 434 and _ and DiffFromModel at line 440 |
| 07:03.17 | Morpheus|Dead | maybe thats good though I mean no infighting really over here or forks |
| 07:03.47 | ckknight | I think a lot of it has to do with there being a definite leader |
| 07:03.55 | ckknight | (norganna, that is) |
| 07:04.20 | Morpheus|Dead | yeah hes uber diplomatic though its a very amenable democratic enviroment here |
| 07:04.58 | ckknight | I've grown weary of democracy in coding situations |
| 07:05.20 | ckknight | the unwashed masses are misinformed and don't know all the necessary details |
| 07:05.28 | Morpheus|Dead | maybe i shouldnt have said democratic republic is better |
| 07:05.49 | Nechckn | unwashed masses =) |
| 07:05.52 | Morpheus|Dead | true democracy actually doesnt work that is mobrule and aken to anarchy |
| 07:05.58 | ckknight | a democratic republic is a system where you elect leaders to represent your views for you |
| 07:06.17 | ckknight | seeing as norganna cannot really be usurped, I don't see that as the system that occurs here |
| 07:06.22 | ckknight | (or wowace for that matter) |
| 07:06.31 | Phorbie | I liked niagra better just as a general addon config UI |
| 07:06.39 | ckknight | compared to? |
| 07:06.43 | Morpheus|Dead | i use both Phorbie |
| 07:06.53 | Morpheus|Dead | and khaos |
| 07:07.05 | Phorbie | so do I, but my addons seem to prefer rock |
| 07:07.10 | Phorbie | gah! |
| 07:07.15 | Phorbie | khaos? |
| 07:07.20 | Phorbie | I thought that died |
| 07:07.26 | Morpheus|Dead | a standalone version of khaos |
| 07:07.39 | Phorbie | ckknight: rock |
| 07:07.44 | Morpheus|Dead | its the only way to gui Auc 4.x |
| 07:07.45 | Nechckn | no.. it's actually pretty decent in the most recent rev's |
| 07:07.51 | Morpheus|Dead | and enchantrix til recently |
| 07:08.10 | ckknight | people will never separate Rock from the config panel, will they? |
| 07:08.17 | Phorbie | nope |
| 07:08.19 | Morpheus|Dead | no its too visible |
| 07:08.30 | ckknight | once again, I refer to the unwashed masses comment |
| 07:08.33 | Phorbie | I'm a noncoder, so I dont even know what it really does |
| 07:08.44 | CIA-MIA | auctioneer: 03Kinesia * r2519 10Auc-Advanced/CoreAPI.lua: ADV-76 Fix local/global pollution |
| 07:08.48 | Phorbie | ...sorry |
| 07:08.52 | Phorbie | I'm trying |
| 07:09.01 | Nechckn | btw Ck- I, too, am a big fan- appreciate all of your efforts over the past long while ;-) |
| 07:09.10 | ckknight | good stuff |
| 07:09.26 | ckknight | I don't like how schools teach programming, btw |
| 07:09.35 | Phorbie | ditto to Nechckn's comment |
| 07:09.38 | Morpheus|Dead | I try ot bridge the gap of dev and unwashed masses ie normal users |
| 07:09.39 | ckknight | most of my computer knowledge is autopedogogical |
| 07:09.46 | Morpheus|Dead | infacto thats my role here |
| 07:10.09 | Phorbie | I keep trying to teach myself...and I keep failing |
| 07:10.28 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 07:10.31 | Morpheus|Dead | I see both sides i can understand being so deep you dont see things the same way anymore and I can understand being so uniforned everything goes right over your head |
| 07:10.32 | ckknight | I started coding when I was 10 |
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| 07:10.53 | Phorbie | eh, I'm behind at 16 |
| 07:10.56 | Morpheus|Dead | uninformed |
| 07:11.00 | ckknight | I'm 20 now, Phorbie |
| 07:11.06 | Phorbie | ...probably shouldn't have mentioned that |
| 07:11.06 | Morpheus|Dead | LOL I am 40 |
| 07:11.16 | newnick | How many people are having issues with Stubby creating tons of errors? |
| 07:11.25 | ckknight | you still have to refer to me as sir, Morpheus|Dead |
| 07:11.32 | Morpheus|Dead | I remmember punch card programming and 10" floppy drives |
| 07:11.32 | ckknight | :-P |
| 07:11.33 | Phorbie | the tender age of 20, and a god of the wow addon community |
| 07:12.00 | Devious | So yeah, anyone? |
| 07:12.03 | ckknight | I have not fulfilled my destiny in the WoW community yet, Phorbie |
| 07:12.13 | Morpheus|Dead | Demetriouswhat? |
| 07:12.17 | Phorbie | I remember just getting into ace, and thinking, wow, CK has no life |
| 07:12.26 | Morpheus|Dead | oops Devious what? |
| 07:12.30 | Nechckn | Hi Devious http://norganna.pastey.net/ please with the errro |
| 07:12.35 | Nechckn | error |
| 07:12.43 | ckknight | I wrote most of Ace2, and I have 5 big mods that I wrote, as well as like 17 libs |
| 07:12.49 | ckknight | oh, and all of Rock |
| 07:12.52 | Devious | Its already been posted on the forums, but they said it was fixed and thats not the case. |
| 07:12.53 | Phorbie | I know |
| 07:12.56 | ckknight | and a few odds and ends |
| 07:13.11 | Devious | and it continues to spam errors in my chat box >.> |
| 07:13.18 | Phorbie | and I respect you immensely for it |
| 07:13.19 | Morpheus|Dead | Devious please use the pastey to show us the error and we will double check it |
| 07:13.22 | Nechckn | Ok... please post what you are getting into the link I gave you then let us know the URL it assigns |
| 07:14.24 | Phorbie | I just wish I could give back anything of substance to the community |
| 07:14.33 | Phorbie | this QA job isn |
| 07:14.40 | Phorbie | 't exactly hard |
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| 07:14.51 | Phorbie | I need a new KB |
| 07:14.53 | Devi0us | bah, stupid thing...>.> |
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| 07:14.58 | Morpheus|Dead | QA is a hugeeeeeee thing Phorbie |
| 07:15.10 | Phorbie | mmm |
| 07:15.18 | ckknight_ | bah |
| 07:15.34 | Phorbie | I guess I'll be more helpful when I know some |
| 07:15.42 | Devi0us | http://norganna.org/discuss/discussion/5438/enhtooltip-error/#Item_0 |
| 07:15.47 | Devi0us | Thats the link on the error |
| 07:16.25 | Morpheus|Dead | umm thats a post 18hrs old could you not use the pastey for your exact error? |
| 07:16.29 | Phorbie | have you posted this to pastey, Devi0us? |
| 07:16.46 | Morpheus|Dead | and btw what build of auctioneer are you using right now? |
| 07:17.08 | Devi0us | Thats the exact error, and I dont know what Pastey is |
| 07:17.28 | Devi0us | Im using the newest build available |
| 07:17.32 | Devi0us | that version 5 or what not |
| 07:17.39 | Morpheus|Dead | ok one other question |
| 07:17.43 | Nechckn | http://norganna.pastey.net/ gave you the link.. but it's ok.. Just a minute whilst we look under the hood please |
| 07:17.44 | Morpheus|Dead | 2505? |
| 07:18.00 | Devi0us | I downloaded it today, so whatever one it is. |
| 07:18.12 | norgjira | Improvement 03BTMS-38 10dinesh: Display a warning if BTM fails an item because of reserve06* (Unconfirmed) http://norganna.org/BTMS-38 |
| 07:18.16 | Morpheus|Dead | Did you comepletely delete all the auctioneer associated files in your interface/addons folder prior to installing the latest build? |
| 07:18.25 | Devi0us | -_- No.... |
| 07:18.30 | Devi0us | bah |
| 07:18.35 | Morpheus|Dead | wait |
| 07:18.57 | Morpheus|Dead | I dont want you tink i mean Savedvariables dont delete those |
| 07:19.14 | Devi0us | Cause it was happening in an older version as well with the introduction of patch 2.3 |
| 07:19.18 | Morpheus|Dead | just the folders in interface/addons that are part of auctioneer |
| 07:19.21 | Devi0us | thats why I got the new one |
| 07:19.25 | Devi0us | Oh, then yeah |
| 07:19.37 | Devi0us | All of that is fresh |
| 07:19.39 | Morpheus|Dead | you can look in the build like to see the names of these and also are you using AC or AADV |
| 07:19.42 | Morpheus|Dead | ? |
| 07:19.56 | Devi0us | Not a clue what that means, but if you walk me through it, I could |
| 07:20.06 | Devi0us | <----Just uses mods. |
| 07:20.23 | Morpheus|Dead | Auctioneer Classic=AC Auctioneeradvanced=AADV |
| 07:20.23 | Nechckn | In ProgramFiles/WorldofWarcraft/Interface/Addons go there |
| 07:21.03 | Devi0us | Advanced |
| 07:21.09 | Devi0us | Full suite |
| 07:21.37 | Morpheus|Dead | ok in the past were you using aadv or auctioneer 4.x |
| 07:21.48 | Morpheus|Dead | before the patch I mean |
| 07:21.49 | Devi0us | Not sure on that one |
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| 07:21.57 | Devi0us | I believe 4.x |
| 07:22.04 | Devi0us | but dont quote me |
| 07:22.08 | Morpheus|Dead | did your old auctioneer have a search auctions tab? |
| 07:22.11 | Devi0us | yeah |
| 07:22.18 | Morpheus|Dead | you were using 4.x |
| 07:22.37 | Morpheus|Dead | you would be happoer prob with classic then its almost tit for tat 4.x |
| 07:22.44 | Morpheus|Dead | happier |
| 07:22.54 | Devi0us | Except Im not getting any scanning features on that |
| 07:23.05 | Morpheus|Dead | yeah its fixed |
| 07:23.08 | Morpheus|Dead | do this |
| 07:23.53 | Devi0us | I tired classic the day 2.3 came out after I started getting those errors, noticed I didnt have a scan feature, then today I went and dled 5 |
| 07:23.58 | Devi0us | *Tried |
| 07:24.02 | Morpheus|Dead | download the advanced suite to look in the zip kk and delete any folders on your harddrive in interface/addons directory wihth the same name as the ones in the advanced zip with me so far? |
| 07:24.38 | Morpheus|Dead | then d/l the classic zip and do the samt thing THEN extract the zip files kk |
| 07:25.14 | Morpheus|Dead | the latest builds do work you just gotta get rid of all the old stuff first and fresh install and I know defacto AC works great right now |
| 07:25.48 | Devi0us | Whats the difference in the end with advanced and classic? |
| 07:25.59 | Nechckn | The interfaces and features |
| 07:26.01 | Morpheus|Dead | lots actually |
| 07:26.18 | Morpheus|Dead | advanced is well advanced LOL it far more complicated for the average user |
| 07:26.57 | Devi0us | In 4.x I didnt feel like there was enough options |
| 07:27.16 | Devi0us | I want to actually use advanced, but I dont want to keep getting these errors |
| 07:27.24 | Nechckn | Well, as Morpheus|Dead said.. download both, then you can better decide for yourself |
| 07:27.32 | Phorbie | well, the options you want are probably implemented in AAdv |
| 07:27.34 | Morpheus|Dead | oh well I am not trying to discourage you if you want more stuff by all means feel free I am just warning it may overwhelm you |
| 07:28.00 | Nechckn | Either Auctioneer Classic or Advanced both work when installed fresh, so you can be "The Decider" =) |
| 07:28.04 | Morpheus|Dead | but regardles you need to get rid of all old files and fresh instal bith latest builds work good on a fresh instal |
| 07:28.31 | Morpheus|Dead | btw don't mind my drunk fingers they have a mind of their own |
| 07:28.44 | Morpheus|Dead | and they spell for crap |
| 07:28.54 | Phorbie | lol |
| 07:29.05 | Nechckn | oh yeah..mine spell for carp |
| 07:29.07 | Devi0us | Bah, theres no real gui for it...>.< |
| 07:29.14 | Nechckn | Got any goldfish? |
| 07:29.17 | Morpheus|Dead | for what AC |
| 07:29.35 | Devi0us | some options in advanced...or so the forums say |
| 07:29.50 | Nechckn | that is certainly not true |
| 07:29.54 | Morpheus|Dead | there is but we dont support it it's called Khaos to gui config AC AADV has its own supported GUI |
| 07:30.36 | Nechckn | of the two.. advanced has many more gui options... both have the same base features, just that classic requires slash commands and advanced uses config guis to do the same things |
| 07:31.09 | Devi0us | yeah Im lazy. When I get to the AH, I just wanna scan, list and get outta there |
| 07:32.26 | Nechckn | Well, with both versions you can decide yourself, that is the nice part |
| 07:33.11 | Nechckn | not to mention, their downloads take about 30seconds on any sort of decent, able to play WoW, connection so that's even better! |
| 07:33.13 | Devi0us | Think Imma take Morphs advice and stick with ez mode AC. Im usually too stoned to care anyways |
| 07:33.25 | Morpheus|Dead | LOL |
| 07:33.30 | Nechckn | Either way |
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| 07:33.47 | Devi0us | Well, thanks for your help folks. |
| 07:33.51 | Devi0us | Have a good one |
| 07:34.12 | Nechckn | Let us know if u have questions after u get all set up, Thank You! |
| 07:34.15 | Morpheus|Dead | bye Devi0us |
| 07:34.18 | Devi0us | fuh sho |
| 07:35.15 | Phorbie | is there an upper limit to the gold you can have in WoW? |
| 07:35.53 | Nechckn | honestly, doubt it... but there may be some way up there |
| 07:36.13 | Morpheus|Dead | guess a gold seller would know LOPL |
| 07:36.15 | Morpheus|Dead | LOL |
| 07:37.08 | Nechckn | Well.. I could tell ya.. but, well, you know. |
| 07:37.10 | Phorbie | which leads to my second question, what's the most anyone's had? |
| 07:37.22 | Morpheus|Dead | 12,000 |
| 07:37.26 | Morpheus|Dead | about |
| 07:37.51 | Nechckn | I've seen friends with hundreds of thousands.. me.. dunno really |
| 07:37.56 | Morpheus|Dead | I like to spend money too much |
| 07:38.01 | Nechckn | it varies alot |
| 07:38.11 | Nechckn | Yeah.. it's tough to keep it if u have it |
| 07:38.24 | Phorbie | indeed |
| 07:38.40 | Phorbie | I have a whopping 30g right now and I'm about to spend it |
| 07:38.46 | Morpheus|Dead | I monopolizes the arcane dust market for a mo or so once before i got bored with it LOL |
| 07:39.06 | Nechckn | I *think* the most I've ever seen was 450ish I've never been that close nor likely as much as Morpheus|Dead either |
| 07:39.20 | Nechckn | 450K that is |
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| 07:39.45 | Morpheus|Dead | eh I have 10 toons on one server in the same faction ranging from 19 twinks to 70 |
| 07:39.46 | Nechckn | ahahhaha monopolies are evil..unless you are the puppet master |
| 07:39.52 | Phorbie | lol, I bet Norganna isn't rolling in gold either |
| 07:40.15 | Nechckn | Honestly.. the person with the most is likely Dinesh |
| 07:40.38 | Phorbie | why's that? |
| 07:40.53 | Nechckn | One day he had to relist over 500 auctions |
| 07:41.05 | Phorbie | ... |
| 07:41.08 | Nechckn | not individual items... stacks and singles mixed |
| 07:41.39 | Morpheus|Dead | most listing i ever had at once was like 400 and that was crazy |
| 07:41.53 | Nechckn | I couldn't keep up with it. there is no way |
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| 07:42.36 | Nechckn | I actually know I lost a ton of gold from getting mad at the game.. then not logging in for 30 days.. it was like 42 or something and I lost all the AH income |
| 07:42.40 | Nechckn | I was NOT happy |
| 07:42.59 | Morpheus|Dead | ouch |
| 07:43.10 | Nechckn | dinesh-sleep WAKE UP!! TellzUsYourTotalzLoots!! |
| 07:43.20 | Nechckn | There.. let's find out for sure... |
| 07:43.27 | Morpheus|Dead | LOL |
| 07:43.34 | testleK | I normally have 300 or so auctions posted at any given time and sitting at about 4k in gold right now |
| 07:44.29 | Nechckn | If I were to guess.. that is likely most folks here... simply cause it goes up and down so much... hell one raid and you might drop at least a few hundred on repairs alone |
| 07:44.39 | Morpheus|Dead | its going to be a while before my money starts going up again I lost my 4.x 2yr old database of prices right after patch day |
| 07:44.40 | Phorbie | woah! WoW actually gave me a useful logon tip |
| 07:44.53 | Nechckn | Phorbie I don't believe you |
| 07:45.14 | testleK | Morph it wont take that long just a couple weeks :P |
| 07:45.15 | Phorbie | you can cycle through whispers with tab after you hit "r" |
| 07:45.29 | Morpheus|Dead | LOL yeah |
| 07:45.39 | Morpheus|Dead | I use that alot usually in tell hell ingame |
| 07:45.41 | Nechckn | See... I like my historical data, but I usually back it up, start new just because most prices are so "now" dependent |
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| 07:46.07 | Nechckn | Phorbie ehhehe yeah.. that is quite helpful |
| 07:47.29 | gil- | if u think that is use, use warcraft instant messenger, tabbed windows for tells! |
| 07:48.04 | Morpheus|Dead | I use prat |
| 07:48.17 | gil- | and i dont have raid gold repair probs, thanks 2.3 and guildbank! haha |
| 07:48.27 | gil- | my guild actually made me incharge of the guildbank cuz of all my AH PROFITS |
| 07:48.55 | Morpheus|Dead | I am the CoGM in my guild and I am a bout to bust heads over that LOL |
| 07:48.55 | testleK | Alright going to log in and mess with some stuff for a bit lol |
| 07:49.29 | gil- | you can set how much ppl get to repair / day |
| 07:51.36 | Morpheus|Dead | oh i didnt know I cant change the params only rank1 not 0 |
| 07:53.59 | gil- | i cant change it either can only withdraw/deposit |
| 07:54.19 | gil- | btw was the auc tooltip info on guildbanks fixed? |
| 07:54.57 | Morpheus|Dead | umm idk |
| 07:55.54 | Morpheus|Dead | no one that i know of has worked on it |
| 07:56.11 | Morpheus|Dead | I wanna see bid markdown in AC fixed personally |
| 07:56.21 | Morpheus|Dead | but idk know how |
| 07:56.46 | Phorbie | hey look, I'm poor not |
| 07:56.48 | Phorbie | *now |
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| 08:21.17 | testleK | So I'm playing around with 2519 now and cant check my mail with bean counter enabled it freezes up on the screen saying its checking the mail and says 0 of 0 (even though there is tons of mail) not sure if anyone else is having this prob |
| 08:22.12 | Paradox | have they fixed auctioneer classic so it can scan the AH yet? |
| 08:22.29 | Phorbie | Paradox: yes |
| 08:22.40 | Paradox | great thanks |
| 08:22.40 | Phorbie | update to the latest version |
| 08:22.59 | Phorbie | make sure to delete previous versions you have installed |
| 08:23.02 | Paradox | AuctioneerClassicSuite-5.0.PRE.2505.zip ? |
| 08:26.05 | Phorbie | yup |
| 08:27.31 | Paradox | estimated time is a bit fucked though |
| 08:27.41 | Paradox | 19 minutes, yet with 2.3 patch it takes only about 2 minutes |
| 08:27.56 | Phorbie | yeah |
| 08:28.22 | Phorbie | I think the displayed estimated time is fetching from the wrong place |
| 08:29.02 | FireryRage | hey, quick question, I just started using 5.0, and I'm wondering what the difference between resale and appraiser is when using bottom scanner? |
| 08:30.30 | Phorbie | I'm not sure I understand your question, what do you mean by using bottom scanner? |
| 08:31.01 | FireryRage | I run bottom scanner |
| 08:31.12 | FireryRage | (alongside an AH scan) |
| 08:31.23 | FireryRage | and when it finds a deal, it pops it up |
| 08:31.34 | Phorbie | BTM scanner isn't going to affect Auctioneer |
| 08:31.47 | testleK | appraiser is based off the information put in the appraiser tab |
| 08:32.07 | FireryRage | and it gives the reason for why it popped it up |
| 08:32.20 | FireryRage | I'm fairly familiar with "resale" |
| 08:32.29 | testleK | meaning that it grabs the pricing for fixed or std, market etc based on how you set the item last in appraiser tab |
| 08:32.56 | testleK | whereas resell I believe just uses the default setting and isn't dynamic like appraiser is |
| 08:32.57 | FireryRage | ah |
| 08:33.25 | FireryRage | so resale is based off scanned market value, and appraiser off personal given value? |
| 08:33.35 | FireryRage | hmmm |
| 08:33.44 | testleK | appraiser is meant to be alot easier in the aspect of you bought it based off of the settings you have in appraiser, run to mb get and post *ideally* |
| 08:34.05 | testleK | not exactly, only if you have given a number does it use it |
| 08:34.19 | FireryRage | right |
| 08:34.39 | FireryRage | so should I be skipping resales then? |
| 08:35.09 | FireryRage | given that I'd rather avoid pre-generated values, and instead use my server's market values (which I scanned) |
| 08:35.21 | testleK | so in the appraiser tab if item A is set price 5g and item B is set to post using market price appraiser in btm will buy based off of those two settings even if your default posting is set to std dev for example |
| 08:36.08 | testleK | sorry I may be bad at explaining this, resell is still using your individual scan data |
| 08:36.36 | FireryRage | ok |
| 08:36.45 | FireryRage | I think I get it |
| 08:37.27 | testleK | but if you post that item for a different price on the ah it still goes against the scan data not the price you changed it to when you posted it, whereas appraiser goes oh maybe market price is wrong or tainted because you used 4g instead of 5g, we are going to value it at 4g instead because thats what you are posting it at |
| 08:37.46 | testleK | from my understanding resell and appraiser are going to be merged as time allows |
| 08:37.50 | FireryRage | so resale is based on scanned data, but will only use that value as is, whereas appraiser will use whatever manner of calculating value is given in the appraiser tab |
| 08:38.02 | testleK | yes |
| 08:38.12 | FireryRage | gotcha |
| 08:38.15 | FireryRage | thanks :) |
| 08:38.18 | testleK | Its easy once you understand it lol hard for me to explain haha |
| 08:38.52 | FireryRage | so for now, I may as well consider resale and appraiser as similar, since I haven't fiddled with appraiser yet |
| 08:39.04 | testleK | appraiser is 'safer' to use after you have done some selling |
| 08:39.22 | FireryRage | ok |
| 08:39.59 | testleK | What I do is run them both and run appraiser with stricter settings than resell and over check it before buying if appraiser pops *due to the fast I know resell better* |
| 08:40.19 | FireryRage | I get the impression I should be scanning for a bit before running btmscan, cause I'm getting a lot of 200%+ returns on a lot of items :P |
| 08:41.25 | testleK | are you switching from the old ac to aadv or something? |
| 08:41.36 | FireryRage | yeah |
| 08:41.55 | testleK | yeah then it wouldnt hurt to let AADV build up some information then |
| 08:42.18 | FireryRage | although I'm still running btmscan. I love those "vendor" ones :D |
| 08:42.36 | testleK | Your gonna love it though, I was initially hesitant to switch but now I'm vocal about it being better :) |
| 08:43.00 | testleK | yeah just disable your resell and appraiser but still run it |
| 08:43.04 | FireryRage | well, I can tell it's going to be better |
| 08:43.12 | FireryRage | I just need to build up my database :P |
| 08:43.16 | testleK | if you DE set your fixed prices for mats into enchantrix and run DE |
| 08:43.29 | FireryRage | hmmm |
| 08:43.30 | testleK | along side your vendor |
| 08:43.51 | FireryRage | although, at the moment I'm clicking everything... |
| 08:44.08 | FireryRage | how do I disable just resale and appraiser for the moment? |
| 08:45.54 | testleK | ok you know how to get into the btm settings? (via slidebar just under minimap on the right hand side) |
| 08:48.25 | FireryRage | I know the slide bar, haven't used it yet though :P |
| 08:48.29 | FireryRage | gonna check it |
| 08:49.09 | testleK | k, btm is a green button in slide bar |
| 08:49.29 | testleK | aadv main settings are the pile of coins |
| 08:50.12 | norgjira | Bug 03BCNT-38 10tedrock: Error when posting with insufficient funds06* (Unconfirmed) http://norganna.org/BCNT-38 |
| 08:52.05 | FireryRage | found it |
| 08:52.19 | FireryRage | well |
| 08:52.24 | FireryRage | I removed appraiser |
| 08:52.32 | testleK | kk :) if you havent looks around at the settings might be a good idea to glance around :) |
| 08:52.34 | FireryRage | and set resale to minimum of 20 "seen" |
| 08:52.53 | FireryRage | figure that should weed out any insufficient data |
| 08:53.13 | FireryRage | and skip the appraiser for now, until I get around to fiddling with it some more |
| 08:53.17 | FireryRage | :P |
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| 08:54.33 | testleK | I use 40 min seen myself but |
| 08:54.37 | FireryRage | and apparently that didn't work... |
| 08:54.49 | testleK | ? |
| 08:54.53 | FireryRage | I have "seen" checked and set to 20 for resale |
| 08:55.02 | FireryRage | but it just popped up a resale for 3 seen |
| 08:55.31 | FireryRage | this is after I stopped and restarted btmscan |
| 08:55.38 | testleK | hmm |
| 08:55.40 | FireryRage | albeit I left the AHscan going |
| 08:55.52 | testleK | should be darn near instant change tho |
| 08:56.50 | FireryRage | should be |
| 08:56.52 | FireryRage | I'll see |
| 08:56.56 | FireryRage | after the scan is done |
| 08:57.04 | FireryRage | I'll just turn resale off for now |
| 08:57.22 | testleK | it may have someone to do with the individual module |
| 08:57.32 | testleK | because each module keeps its own seen count |
| 08:58.01 | testleK | so simple may have a different seen count than std dev for example |
| 08:58.26 | FireryRage | hrm |
| 08:58.29 | FireryRage | ah well |
| 08:58.37 | FireryRage | I just turned it off for now |
| 09:01.42 | FireryRage | I'm liking all those options though |
| 09:02.07 | testleK | its very customizable |
| 09:03.37 | FireryRage | indeed |
| 09:04.09 | gil- | i want my "PROFITS" button bigger and in yellow! |
| 09:04.20 | testleK | lol |
| 09:05.13 | FireryRage | also |
| 09:05.28 | FireryRage | "Minimum Discount" |
| 09:05.34 | FireryRage | what does that mean exactly? |
| 09:06.24 | FireryRage | cause I'm thinking of upping the expected profit required for DE/Porspect, but I'm not exactly sure if that's what I should be changing for that |
| 09:08.11 | testleK | minimum discount is the % set then subtracted from its valued at amount and the bid / bo must be below that number (and meet your min profit amount + min seen) in order to pop |
| 09:08.26 | testleK | I have mine set at 50% |
| 09:08.48 | testleK | I have my undercut set to allow up to a 20% discount from valued price |
| 09:08.51 | gil- | i myself am at a loss as to how it works, but i set my min profit at 1.4g and min discount at 18% for DE eval |
| 09:08.57 | testleK | meaning == 30% profit is my ideal min |
| 09:09.34 | gil- | do you have a min profit set? |
| 09:09.40 | FireryRage | higher min discount = higher profit required, right? |
| 09:09.50 | testleK | yes |
| 09:09.53 | FireryRage | ok |
| 09:10.13 | testleK | my de is at 20s my resell is at 1.5g |
| 09:10.36 | testleK | or something like that not 100% that those are the exact figures I have |
| 09:11.33 | testleK | man I did something bad to break this stuff none of my prices will change hehe |
| 09:31.56 | FireryRage | lol |
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| 10:38.35 | nikeplektrum | I have my minimum profit from DE set at 2g, and at elast 1% profit |
| 10:42.22 | nikeplektrum | Any comments on that one from other enchanters? Is it safe to lower min profit to earn more? I guess I shouldn't udnercut the market |
| 10:44.12 | norgjira | Bug 03ENX-9 10testlek: on tab press error while setting fixed priced enchantrix r251506* (Unconfirmed) http://norganna.org/ENX-9 |
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| 11:00.52 | nikeplektrum | Anyone using the auto-disenchant thingy? |
| 11:00.58 | nikeplektrum | Read about it, but can't find it |
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| 11:25.19 | sag_ich_nicht | your shit breaks shit at about 11/17 11:22:59.002: http://loliserv.org/~afora/taint.log |
| 11:33.37 | nikeplektrum | set my minimum de profit to 1g |
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| 11:39.08 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: your bug report fails before line #1 ;) |
| 11:39.37 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter, no, it doesn't. |
| 11:39.42 | sag_ich_nicht | go to the number, and look at the taint. |
| 11:39.45 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 11:39.50 | sag_ich_nicht | there is no bug report |
| 11:39.57 | sag_ich_nicht | i slap you in the face with the taint.log |
| 11:39.59 | sag_ich_nicht | and you can either care |
| 11:40.01 | sag_ich_nicht | or not care |
| 11:40.20 | sag_ich_nicht | this is not a taintLog 2, i can assure you that :P |
| 11:40.32 | sag_ich_nicht | and while you're here, go and link that taint.log in the sticky on the US forums :P |
| 11:44.06 | sag_ich_nicht | someone here have an account on the sw stats forums? |
| 11:44.25 | bleeter | 'your shit breaks shit' either is a bug report, or is not. if it is, I'm curious, but incapable. if it isn't.. then... meh. I see at least two other mods mentioned around that timestamp. Eradicate them, reproduce the error, get me some body text to wrap around it as to why it's not our stuff that's bugged... |
| 11:44.45 | bleeter | ... then I'll take it to norgs/mp/esamynn, chat about it.. THEN i'll consider posting it to the forums |
| 11:45.27 | sag_ich_nicht | okay we play the game that way then |
| 11:45.34 | bleeter | :P |
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| 11:45.39 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll wait till the other mods are fixed then till i stab you with it again |
| 11:45.50 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 11:45.51 | bleeter | gimme a break, it's 22:45, saturday night, very bloated from a very big dinner :P |
| 11:46.12 | bleeter | fwiw, I'm trying to work out if we ever see metahawk on IRC, 'coz his stuff breaks shit too |
| 11:46.31 | Deathvendor | Could someone tell how to "update" to a new build of Adavanced while keeping my current D-base of scans? |
| 11:47.17 | bleeter | Deathvendor: lemme try and find some info for you. which version are you currently running? |
| 11:47.30 | Deathvendor | one sec...I'll go check |
| 11:48.05 | Deathvendor | This is the name of the .zip folder I DL'd AuctioneerAdvancedSuite-5.0.PRE.2479 |
| 11:48.55 | bleeter | ah, well if you're using AucAdv, just replace the Interface files with the updated preview, keeping the DB alone (it's stored in the WTF folder), should be completely painless |
| 11:49.24 | bleeter | to be sure, though, remove the earlier preview release AucAdv folders from your Interface\AddOns directory first |
| 11:50.43 | Deathvendor | ok thanks, also...Is there a compeling reason to update to the new build? My scans are taking 17 min and I was under the impression that Bliz added some new way to scan that would make this faster and I wasn't sure if that funcionality had been integrated into AucAdv |
| 11:50.56 | sag_ich_nicht | it has been |
| 11:50.57 | sag_ich_nicht | update |
| 11:51.01 | Deathvendor | sweet |
| 11:51.04 | sag_ich_nicht | you can only use it once every 15 minutes. |
| 11:51.12 | Deathvendor | cool |
| 11:51.29 | bleeter | Deathvendor: Blizz did add a new feature |
| 11:51.30 | Deathvendor | is there a special way to do that (like a button) in AucAdv? |
| 11:51.56 | bleeter | but it broke when it went from test realm Auction Houses, with hundreds of items, to Live AH's with thousands |
| 11:52.07 | bleeter | so they disabled that until further notice |
| 11:52.23 | Deathvendor | they? Bliz or norganna? |
| 11:52.37 | bleeter | you will notice, though, if you do one scan pretty much straight after another, the second is *damned* fast ;) |
| 11:52.44 | Deathvendor | true |
| 11:52.45 | bleeter | Blizz did |
| 11:52.50 | Deathvendor | thanks |
| 11:53.02 | sag_ich_nicht | [12:52] <@bleeter> so they disabled that until further notice <--works for me |
| 11:53.05 | sag_ich_nicht | lol US realms |
| 11:53.05 | bleeter | before they disabled it, one could execute the raw programming call and get a client disconnect |
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| 11:53.28 | sag_ich_nicht | my EU realm > your puny little US realm, bleeter :P |
| 11:54.24 | sag_ich_nicht | even less than 3 minutes |
| 11:54.29 | bleeter | *cough* the new API would have it in about 10 seconds |
| 11:54.40 | sag_ich_nicht | o rly |
| 11:54.41 | bleeter | you're seeing some of the new fun-ness of AAdv |
| 11:54.44 | bleeter | yarly |
| 11:54.56 | sag_ich_nicht | explain yourself then |
| 11:55.00 | bleeter | no, you |
| 11:55.04 | bleeter | you said the API worked |
| 11:55.08 | bleeter | prove it |
| 11:55.08 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 11:55.09 | sag_ich_nicht | i was wrong |
| 11:55.12 | sag_ich_nicht | bite me |
| 11:55.14 | sag_ich_nicht | is it because of the server sided sorting? :P |
| 11:55.27 | Morpheus|Dead | LOL my puny us realm has usually close to or more than 500 pages every thur thru mon :-) |
| 11:55.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Morpheus|Dead: so? |
| 11:55.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Morpheus|Dead: maybe i went to the cross realm AH? |
| 11:56.04 | sag_ich_nicht | (burrrrrrrrrrrrrrn) |
| 11:56.08 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 11:56.08 | Morpheus|Dead | well a server with 130+ pages right now sat is pretty puny :-) |
| 11:56.11 | sag_ich_nicht | -cross realm +cross faction |
| 11:56.34 | sag_ich_nicht | i doubt your cross faction AH has more than 20 pages *cough* |
| 11:56.38 | bleeter | hell, even my puny RP realm has 260 pages |
| 11:56.41 | Morpheus|Dead | pah i was talking about gadget LOL |
| 11:56.59 | Morpheus|Dead | LOL |
| 11:57.23 | sag_ich_nicht | kill yourself then. :P |
| 12:00.34 | Deathvendor | why is there a classic version and an advanced version? |
| 12:01.09 | Deathvendor | More to the point, why not spend all your time on just one version? |
| 12:01.11 | Morpheus|Dead | classic is pretty much identical to 4.x the old broken Auctioneer Deathvendor |
| 12:01.35 | Morpheus|Dead | well cause I like Classic they like advanced its all my fault actually |
| 12:01.46 | Deathvendor | lol |
| 12:02.04 | Deathvendor | what do you like about classic that you don't about Adv? |
| 12:02.43 | sag_ich_nicht | because it will take a long time until the advanced database is migrated enough |
| 12:02.47 | Morpheus|Dead | hmm well there are still a lot of features in ac not in AADV and mainly cosmetic differences bug me |
| 12:03.00 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm still getting wrong prices in AADV altho i've been scanning for months now with it |
| 12:03.08 | sag_ich_nicht | and classic normal has the right prices |
| 12:03.09 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 12:03.24 | Morpheus|Dead | I have a 37" monitor that my ingame res ix 1920x1080 and AADV is hell to read its too small etc etc |
| 12:04.01 | Deathvendor | do the D-bases cross migrate? |
| 12:04.10 | Morpheus|Dead | no |
| 12:04.41 | Deathvendor | are these questions kosher here or should I shush up? |
| 12:04.53 | Morpheus|Dead | idc |
| 12:04.54 | Morpheus|Dead | LOL |
| 12:05.27 | Morpheus|Dead | i am typing so slow cause my pc is lagged like shit doing a intensive virus scan cpu at 100% LOL |
| 12:05.31 | Deathvendor | will there ever be a way to display the data in a graph?...or would that make the D-base folder get enormous? |
| 12:05.47 | Morpheus|Dead | seriously doubt that |
| 12:06.03 | Deathvendor | cuz? |
| 12:06.20 | Morpheus|Dead | not really feasable |
| 12:06.34 | bleeter | someone was working on graphing stuff |
| 12:06.39 | Morpheus|Dead | you know how many items there are in game thats one freakin huge ass graph |
| 12:06.45 | sag_ich_nicht | graphlib, imho |
| 12:06.47 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 12:06.52 | Deathvendor | I wish I could understand why... |
| 12:07.21 | testleK | actually I think it would be easier toe xport the data and graph it yourself in excel |
| 12:07.34 | Deathvendor | is that possible? |
| 12:07.53 | bleeter | indeed, getting an external parser to put it into some sensible format would 'be best', eg parse it out to XML |
| 12:07.54 | testleK | well its possible if you want to figure out how to write the script to do it :P |
| 12:08.13 | bleeter | certainly possible, has anyone actually done it so it's freely available easy to use, etc.? don't think so. |
| 12:09.03 | testleK | dumping it out so we can use our own database or spreadsheet tools is a much better way to go than trying to graph it in wow |
| 12:09.14 | Morpheus|Dead | wowecon does something similar but its graping with you sales I think and its not very accurate its pretty bad from what i heard |
| 12:09.50 | testleK | I would think the memory usage in v out of game is enough of an argument |
| 12:10.37 | bleeter | Deathvendor: yes, it's possible. it's a time/effort thing tho ;) |
| 12:10.43 | Deathvendor | sure |
| 12:10.51 | Deathvendor | which file is the D-base? |
| 12:12.35 | bleeter | the ones in your WTF\Account\<Account Name>\SavedVariables\ Folder, that's all the data used by every mod |
| 12:12.48 | Deathvendor | k |
| 12:13.04 | bleeter | http://norganna.org/wiki/Auctioneer/Backup this refers to the earlier version of Auctioneer, with the 5.0 preview, there's quite a few more files in that folder but their names are, I think, pretty self explanatory |
| 12:13.47 | Morpheus|Dead | so is testleK pronounced Test-Lick ? |
| 12:13.50 | bleeter | also, depends what you call the DB. There's the DB, then there's the data of the other associated mods. I tend to think of it all as one mega DB, which contains the actual AH DB within it (as well as settings etc. etc.) |
| 12:14.23 | Deathvendor | i just meant the raw scaned info...but I found that...thanks |
| 12:16.25 | testleK | Its pronounced test - lehk |
| 12:16.33 | Morpheus|Dead | LOL j/k |
| 12:16.40 | testleK | heh |
| 12:17.17 | testleK | hey morph you running the latest svn? |
| 12:17.55 | Morpheus|Dead | umm i have iit havent been ingame in hours and I cant right though whats up |
| 12:18.32 | testleK | ahh just wondered if you had any issues with pricing in appraiser tab (switching between mods / price match not actually changing the price) |
| 12:18.44 | testleK | I had to revert back to 2515 |
| 12:19.01 | Morpheus|Dead | I try not to test AADV unless i need to help someone :-) |
| 12:19.16 | Morpheus|Dead | until it get some dif features anyway |
| 12:19.54 | testleK | heh, I think it jacked up my database too lol half my std dev prices were reset ;-] |
| 12:20.39 | Morpheus|Dead | well htats not good |
| 12:20.50 | Morpheus|Dead | uhhh hate typing blind |
| 12:20.51 | testleK | Im gonna see if I can pinpoint it a bit more and drop my backup db back in lol |
| 12:21.01 | testleK | know the feeling lol |
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| 12:21.24 | Daede | hey i got a q about gatherer |
| 12:21.50 | Morpheus|Dead | doh' |
| 12:21.54 | testleK | lol |
| 12:22.01 | Daede | is there any way to make gatherer store data about a node when i sight it using find minerals instead of the first time i actually mine it? |
| 12:22.23 | bleeter | no |
| 12:22.30 | Daede | well, there should be =P |
| 12:22.44 | Morpheus|Dead | you have to actually mine it to calll the function as far as I know |
| 12:22.51 | bleeter | it's completely impossible to do that using the interfaces that blizzard offer to programmers |
| 12:23.01 | Daede | bummer |
| 12:23.09 | Daede | okay, that was my question.. thanks guys :) |
| 12:23.12 | bleeter | that's to say, you can't locate something via the minimap and record it's location |
| 12:25.27 | bleeter | Morpheus|Dead: iirc, it's 'watch an attempt to utilise a spellcast on a doodad and either have it fail or succeed with an error message that matches a given string'.. tho i'm probably quite wrong ;) |
| 12:25.37 | Daede | so the only other option that I really have is to use the pre-loadable database.. which seems to have a lot of erraneous data |
| 12:26.05 | bleeter | Daede: that's the problem with other people's data, you never know how much they may be ... pulling your leg ;) |
| 12:26.11 | Morpheus|Dead | yip |
| 12:26.58 | Morpheus|Dead | personally I would like to see a ingame syncing feature for auc and gath toggleable of course |
| 12:27.00 | Daede | so lets say you were mining for money.. would you use the wowhead database or explore areas yourself and build your own? |
| 12:27.11 | Morpheus|Dead | but I dont think thats a very popular idea |
| 12:27.46 | Morpheus|Dead | you know sync up with friends and guild mates data |
| 12:27.54 | bleeter | erm, gatherer sends data to guild, party and raid. it has a share to friends. |
| 12:28.01 | bleeter | well, not friends, but individuals. |
| 12:28.16 | testleK | lol |
| 12:28.18 | Kandoko | Auc would drown blizzard com channel. And gatherer already has inguild transmisssin of nodes you and they gather |
| 12:28.19 | Morpheus|Dead | LOL I dont use gather is why i didnt know thaat i have cart |
| 12:28.19 | bleeter | we occasionally talk about sharing AH data, but... ugh, it very quickly gets very messy |
| 12:28.37 | bleeter | yes, what kandoko said. it'd drown the blizz comms channel |
| 12:29.20 | testleK | my bet is blizz would freak if it was done over their chat |
| 12:29.41 | Morpheus|Dead | !sick Vhaarr |
| 12:29.50 | Morpheus|Dead | oops |
| 12:29.59 | Morpheus|Dead | ~sick Vhaarr |
| 12:30.05 | Morpheus|Dead | dangit |
| 12:30.10 | Kandoko | Well, look at what they did to there auc house api to try and reduce Auctioneer strain. And the addon channel they created to help reduce the load of ctmod/raid addons on chat system |
| 12:30.29 | bleeter | lets see, a single page of 50 items is 100 requests. lets say there's only 2 people scanning that page. that's 200 messages. add a third person into syncing data... well, you can start to see the issues that might arise ;) |
| 12:30.32 | Morpheus|Dead | can i tell purl to do something nasty to someone ina nother channel she is in? |
| 12:30.49 | Daede | so the work that was recently done by bliz on the ah api was a direct result of the auctioneer addons scan system? |
| 12:31.01 | bleeter | pretty much |
| 12:31.11 | Daede | well, dont u guys feel speshul =P |
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| 12:31.39 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:32.24 | Morpheus|Dead | ~help |
| 12:33.16 | bleeter | Morpheus|Dead: you can talk to purl in /msg ;) |
| 12:33.32 | Kandoko | ~I need sombody. Help not just anybody |
| 12:33.33 | purl | You need sombody. Help not just anybody? |
| 12:33.46 | bleeter | that way we don't see a flood while you're trying to work it our, and don't need to prefix the ~ |
| 12:34.07 | Morpheus|Dead | ah |
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| 12:37.14 | Undine | that'll learn me. latest svn seems to reset prices in appraiser |
| 12:37.18 | Daede | personally i think any shot other than auto shot should stand a chance to cancel the casting action of my target |
| 12:37.38 | Daede | god knows anything that hits ME cancels MY current casting action.. |
| 12:37.40 | testleK | ha its not just me :P |
| 12:38.08 | Daede | talkin to me?> |
| 12:38.29 | testleK | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:38.34 | Daede | oh |
| 12:38.35 | Daede | pff |
| 12:38.37 | Daede | =P |
| 12:38.46 | testleK | im gonna put in a ticket |
| 12:38.47 | Morpheus|Dead | hmm perl doesnt do my bidding |
| 12:38.51 | Morpheus|Dead | oh well |
| 12:38.52 | Undine | meh, i'll just nuke it instead |
| 12:38.59 | Undine | green stuff sells so badly anyway |
| 12:39.35 | Morpheus|Dead | just like every other women I Know wont do what I say LOL |
| 12:41.30 | testleK | hey undine, with the svn were you able to change pricing via the drop down in the appraiser tab? |
| 12:41.38 | testleK | or with match |
| 12:42.17 | testleK | or could only only change it by hand? // did you loose your stdev / market pricing one or both? |
| 12:44.48 | Undine | the drop down, it does nothing! |
| 12:45.12 | Undine | and unable to change by hand as it just bounces back to something else |
| 12:45.13 | testleK | kk |
| 12:45.21 | testleK | what about your database? |
| 12:45.30 | testleK | are item prices intact properly when on mouse over? |
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| 12:47.56 | Toff | hi everyone |
| 12:48.21 | Toff | anyone here who can help with a problem on Auctioneer? |
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| 12:49.12 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-77 10testlek: r2519 wiping out prices // appraiser tab pricing issue06* (Unconfirmed) http://norganna.org/ADV-77 |
| 12:50.08 | Rabbitbunny | Uh, how do you copy an error out of WoW? |
| 12:50.11 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-77 10testlek: r2519 wiping out prices // appraiser tab pricing issue06 (Open) http://norganna.org/ADV-77 |
| 12:50.54 | Undine | i think item prices are okay |
| 12:51.17 | CremeEgg | Is it possible to change the size of the Enchantrix Minimap Button? Atm its larger than all the other buttons so it out of alignment when inside MinimapButtonBag |
| 12:51.38 | Rabbitbunny | one just popped up, corescan.lue tried to do math on a null when I paused, Informant reported it but I can't for the life of me figure out how to copy out of that game |
| 12:52.09 | testleK | what version are you running rabbit? |
| 12:52.31 | Rabbitbunny | aucadvanced pre2472 |
| 12:52.48 | Rabbitbunny | s/lue/lua/ |
| 12:53.14 | testleK | http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/#preview and download the latest preview version |
| 12:53.25 | Rabbitbunny | Ah, Thanks. |
| 12:53.36 | Toff | anyone have a problem with 4.0.5 - the inability to create auctions since 2.3? |
| 12:53.41 | testleK | make sure you delete all the files in the addons directory for aadv |
| 12:54.01 | Rabbitbunny | oui |
| 12:54.19 | Rabbitbunny | just for posterity, how do yuo copy out of the game? |
| 12:54.43 | testleK | highlight the error and ctrl c |
| 12:55.10 | testleK | you need to be running something like swatter tho to catch em cant copy out of blizz default error window |
| 12:55.32 | testleK | swatter highlights it all on first click for you, then ctrl c |
| 12:55.51 | Rabbitbunny | hmm, okay that'll copy for the xp box, I forgot to try to paster back into xp... |
| 12:56.03 | Rabbitbunny | it's early and I'm still revving up. |
| 12:56.06 | testleK | Toff have you read up on the forums? I believe 4.0.5 has lots of posts about it -- i havent follow that line version tho |
| 12:56.34 | Rabbitbunny | i was trying to paste into my linux box, which normally works via synergy, guess the game inhibits it. |
| 12:56.47 | testleK | ahh i do the same |
| 12:56.59 | testleK | synergy wont hold the error between the two for me either |
| 12:57.23 | Rabbitbunny | ah, good I'm not crazy! |
| 12:57.50 | testleK | no ur not what I did was made a txt file and transfered it thataway |
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| 12:58.15 | ETsoman | hello together |
| 12:58.19 | testleK | or IM / em it to yourself however you want lol\ |
| 12:58.28 | Daede | damn |
| 12:58.35 | testleK | I got to run folks rabbit anything else I can help with before I jet |
| 12:58.41 | Daede | it's a good feeling to have 3 stacks of iron ore in your inventory.. |
| 12:58.47 | Rabbitbunny | uh... I need free gold.. |
| 12:58.52 | Rabbitbunny | lol |
| 12:58.57 | testleK | daede can help you with that |
| 12:58.59 | Daede | thats 30g on the weekdays, 45g on weekends |
| 12:59.02 | Rabbitbunny | sweet. |
| 12:59.12 | ETsoman | does anyboby uses wuu update and has problems to update auctioneer with it? |
| 12:59.23 | Daede | rabbitbunny, here's what you do |
| 12:59.32 | Daede | what are your professions? |
| 12:59.49 | Rabbitbunny | 242 enchant, 300 tailor |
| 12:59.59 | Daede | and what lvl are you? |
| 13:00.11 | norgjira | Bug 03BCNT-38 10kandoko: Error when posting with insufficient funds06 (Open) http://norganna.org/BCNT-38 |
| 13:00.16 | Rabbitbunny | i've turned 10g into 142g over the past week ;) |
| 13:00.24 | Rabbitbunny | 1,45,23,8 |
| 13:00.38 | Daede | huh? |
| 13:00.44 | Rabbitbunny | err, lv45 |
| 13:00.58 | Daede | well if youre making money then nevermind |
| 13:01.04 | Daede | i thought you actually needed gold |
| 13:01.11 | Rabbitbunny | no wait, this is slow, lemme know |
| 13:01.24 | Rabbitbunny | i got buy, DE, sell covered |
| 13:01.42 | Rabbitbunny | robe of arcana, that's easy enough, bags are okay... |
| 13:01.45 | Daede | take 2 gathering professions.. herbalism & mining, skinning & mining, whatever makes the most money in the AH on your server |
| 13:01.50 | Rabbitbunny | where's teh true gold |
| 13:02.01 | CIA-MIA | auctioneer: 03kandoko * r2520 10BeanCounter/ (BidMonitor.lua PostMonitor.lua): |
| 13:02.02 | CIA-MIA | auctioneer: Fixes BCNT-38 |
| 13:02.02 | CIA-MIA | auctioneer: Corrected a misnamed function call that caused an error on posting an auction with insufficient funds. |
| 13:02.02 | CIA-MIA | auctioneer: Removed semi-Colan's left from BC Classic functions. |
| 13:02.09 | Daede | then study the auction market for trends |
| 13:02.28 | Daede | for example |
| 13:02.31 | Daede | on my server |
| 13:02.46 | Daede | leatherworking supplies sell the best tuesday - thursday |
| 13:02.56 | Daede | mining supplies sell best fri, sat, sun |
| 13:03.06 | Daede | so i stock up on ores all week |
| 13:03.11 | norgjira | Bug 03BCNT-38 10kandoko: Error when posting with insufficient funds06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://norganna.org/BCNT-38 |
| 13:03.12 | Daede | and drop them in my bank |
| 13:03.17 | Daede | then sell them out ont he weekend |
| 13:03.36 | Daede | while my bank is empty on weekend, i go on a skinning spree |
| 13:03.51 | Daede | so on tuesday im ready to unload all my leathers onto the market |
| 13:04.04 | Daede | take in mind that i level really fast |
| 13:04.19 | Daede | but i still manage about 200g/wk |
| 13:04.24 | Daede | im lvl32 |
| 13:05.48 | Rabbitbunny | that's insane. |
| 13:05.50 | Daede | that doesnt sound like much |
| 13:05.59 | Daede | but i only farm mats about 1h/day |
| 13:06.07 | Rabbitbunny | i've been lv44 for... a month, then last night I go in on a mara run. |
| 13:06.36 | Daede | i was sick for 3 days or i'd be lvl40 by the end of this weekend |
| 13:07.47 | Rabbitbunny | yeah, i level slow, i like the AH more than the outside |
| 13:09.56 | bleeter | don't forget folks, the length of auctions has changed, you should adjust your farming/selling habits and market manipulation accordingly ;) |
| 13:10.21 | Daede | most ppl on my server are sticking with 24h auctions |
| 13:11.21 | Daede | it shouldnt be able to post *any* |
| 13:11.42 | Luiniel | Oh, well, looks like I luck out :) |
| 13:12.21 | Rabbitbunny | mine has moved to 48h's, but I stick with 24's for turnover, i wanna change prices sometimes |
| 13:13.12 | Speeddymon | ah |
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| 13:17.47 | Rabbitbunny | well, i was only out of date for.... 30 or so bugfixes... |
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| 13:19.31 | Daede | what friggen good is having feign death if when i do it the goddamned mob keeps hitting me grrrrrrrrrrr |
| 13:21.05 | Rabbitbunny | how do you study markets? |
| 13:21.19 | Rabbitbunny | i mean, I know how i do, but what's your method? |
| 13:22.21 | Daede | im not sure i have a system, per se |
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| 13:22.47 | Rabbitbunny | jusy kinda look at the AH then eh... |
| 13:22.48 | Daede | i just pick a few items and track them over a couple weeks |
| 13:23.01 | Rabbitbunny | oh man, you're gonna love this... |
| 13:23.15 | Daede | when im looking at something to buy and resell, a very big factor i take in is how many times that item has been seen at ah |
| 13:23.54 | Rabbitbunny | I started to learn about how auc was storing data, so I could index it on my server and track it, similar to the US stockmarket or forex |
| 13:24.07 | Daede | oO |
| 13:24.33 | Daede | so basically you're developing a web portal that reads off the aadv data |
| 13:24.50 | Daede | and shows projections in market flux, etc? |
| 13:25.19 | Rabbitbunny | wrote the perl to pull savedvariables into my db and everything, simple phpbased upload after i was done playing and it worked great, but while i was getting help generating the graphs i found this |
| 13:25.27 | Rabbitbunny | http://wowecon.com |
| 13:25.47 | Daede | get da fuck outta here |
| 13:25.52 | Daede | this is you? |
| 13:25.56 | Rabbitbunny | the guy has basically finishd what I wanted, and has it for everyone, meaning hid data is better than mine could ever be |
| 13:26.03 | Daede | oh ok |
| 13:26.58 | Rabbitbunny | but check his stuff out, he's a db dev for cleversafe.org, i whois'd the site to make sure it wasn't just more IGE |
| 13:27.15 | Rabbitbunny | I even know where he got his masters' in computer science |
| 13:27.36 | Daede | this is sick |
| 13:28.00 | Daede | i still prefer to gather my own data as im pretty adept at predicting market trends |
| 13:28.02 | Daede | but WOW |
| 13:28.09 | Rabbitbunny | but anyway, you can check out your servers' prices/volume without having his addon/mod, or get his mod and it'll show you the projected price in game |
| 13:28.41 | Rabbitbunny | so next time you want to watch something for a few weeks, just check out his data for the past few weeks and save yourself the time |
| 13:29.28 | Daede | HAHAHAHHA |
| 13:29.30 | Daede | WOW |
| 13:29.52 | Daede | you are my new best friend |
| 13:29.56 | Rabbitbunny | he makes his money off the 'premium' service, which is where all the fun graphs are, but the basics are free |
| 13:30.01 | bleeter | as always, though, remember GIGO |
| 13:30.09 | Rabbitbunny | gigo? |
| 13:30.16 | Daede | get in get out |
| 13:30.22 | Rabbitbunny | why? |
| 13:30.29 | bleeter | garbage in garbage oout |
| 13:30.32 | Rabbitbunny | oh, right! |
| 13:30.35 | Daede | because too much of a good thing ruins the market |
| 13:30.36 | bleeter | s/oo/o/ |
| 13:30.51 | Daede | i always use get in get out |
| 13:31.08 | Daede | stay int he copper bar merket too long and eventually you drive the price down to 75s a stack |
| 13:31.18 | Rabbitbunny | right, i get what you meant, but there's all the data you need, laid out in pretty little graphs |
| 13:31.22 | Daede | just by undercutting 7% each time |
| 13:31.35 | Rabbitbunny | 7%!, i go with 1%. |
| 13:31.42 | Daede | i undercut 7% |
| 13:31.47 | Daede | PISSES ppl off |
| 13:31.48 | Rabbitbunny | sometimes they don't sell, but the market is more stable |
| 13:32.09 | Daede | well dude |
| 13:32.17 | Daede | u just made me rich beyond my wildest |
| 13:32.19 | Daede | wow |
| 13:32.37 | Rabbitbunny | i really wish auc would change the default, just so newbs don't pile up and halve prices in a weekend |
| 13:32.53 | Daede | i wish NOBODY knew about auc |
| 13:33.20 | Daede | i wish there were a version of auc i ould *buy* with super enhanced features that noobs just cant have xD |
| 13:33.37 | Kandoko | Wowecon has decent global prices but the per server stuff can be lacking. If there are not enough users on that server uploading data back. Then your own data/uploades can skew the values quitae a bit :( |
| 13:33.40 | Rabbitbunny | that would be nice, but then the software might suck or, the software would be awesome and you wouldn't have it |
| 13:34.01 | Daede | oh i would have it |
| 13:34.05 | bleeter | yeah, what Kandoko said... gigo ;) |
| 13:34.09 | Daede | i got no problem dishing out cash for good tools |
| 13:34.39 | Rabbitbunny | Kandoko: oui, that's a downside, but a guild full of Huntsmen can even it out |
| 13:35.17 | Daede | is there a way to check how many people are reporting how often for a particular server? |
| 13:35.23 | bleeter | Daede: couple of hundred grand USD should get you a decent system |
| 13:35.31 | Rabbitbunny | not that I looked for |
| 13:36.02 | Daede | and imo, one person reporting regularly should give good data for any particular server.. wouldnt you agree? |
| 13:36.02 | bleeter | I'd suggest that's commercially sensitive material ;) |
| 13:36.33 | bleeter | not if they fudge their data so those looking at it think they're getting a bargain... when they're not ;) |
| 13:36.45 | Daede | blah |
| 13:36.51 | Daede | ill just keep my system it works |
| 13:37.22 | Rabbitbunny | bleeter: check out the whois history, he hasn't been bought yet |
| 13:37.46 | bleeter | Rabbitbunny: I think you missed my point, I'm aware of wowecon |
| 13:37.56 | bleeter | s/\,/\./ |
| 13:37.57 | Rabbitbunny | but yes, with any data-mining operation you run the risk of manipulation, but you still use google eh? |
| 13:38.52 | Rabbitbunny | bleeter: i got your point, i've been through this debate a few times |
| 13:39.45 | Rabbitbunny | bad data can come from anywhere, hopefully he's bot algos in place to smooth out short term but there's really nothing you could do long term if onlt one person is uploading for a particular server. |
| 13:39.51 | Rabbitbunny | s/bot/got |
| 13:41.32 | Daede | ack |
| 13:41.54 | Daede | there's some piece of crap orc following me around waiting for me to fight mobs then going to mine the ores i was headed for |
| 13:42.01 | Daede | and he refuses to flag up |
| 13:42.08 | Daede | i swear im gonna switch to a pvp server |
| 13:42.21 | Rabbitbunny | pvp ftw. |
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| 13:47.17 | Daede | i spit on him like 20 times and he finally flagged up |
| 13:49.02 | Rabbitbunny | lol |
| 13:50.33 | Daede | and now im sure he's on his way to recover his corpse.. now the question is |
| 13:50.39 | Daede | to camp or not to camp |
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| 14:09.29 | Daede | oh btw |
| 14:09.39 | Daede | i've reversed my stand on the gatherer hud |
| 14:09.41 | Daede | it'll do |
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| 14:37.09 | Virtutis | i hve a slight issue with the new auctioneer, may i ask the q here ? or the forums? |
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| 14:43.49 | Aceos | *Knocks Sheepishly on the door* |
| 14:44.03 | Aceos | Anyone home?? |
| 14:44.32 | Speeddymon | yes |
| 14:44.36 | Speeddymon | sup |
| 14:44.37 | Aceos | cool |
| 14:45.07 | Speeddymon | if i dont answer right away, plz be patient, im working on other stuff at the same time right now |
| 14:45.39 | Aceos | Just wondering if there has been any updates since wednesday?? Like is the search function inmplimented yet or even any bug fixes?? And obviously take your time!! |
| 14:47.48 | Speeddymon | check auctioneeraddon.com/dl/#preview every day, updates are being pushed out all the time |
| 14:47.54 | Speeddymon | so yes |
| 14:48.52 | Aceos | So, what should i download to updage my existing installation without loosing all my data? |
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| 14:52.04 | Virtutis | is anyone here ? |
| 14:52.29 | Aceos | Yeah, he is just workin on other stuff but ask a question and he will get to you! |
| 14:54.41 | Virtutis | lol kk |
| 14:55.04 | Virtutis | i just had a question, i ahve installed the new version of Auctioneer (advanced) and all modules seem to work fine |
| 14:55.37 | Virtutis | except that when i post an item into auction it wont automatically enter a value based on its databes - it just uts the value as the base value plus markup |
| 14:56.01 | Aceos | Have you run many scans?? |
| 14:56.05 | Virtutis | So eg : Spellcloth last scanned at say 30g buyout it will put a calue of 1g in it not around 28g as its lless5% cost .. |
| 14:56.19 | Aceos | (Im no expert BTW im just here like you to ask a question!) |
| 14:56.25 | Virtutis | ive only just installed so only 2 hehe |
| 14:56.39 | Speeddymon | Aceos: to your first question, which one are you using now? |
| 14:56.41 | Aceos | Hehe, I would imagine thats ur problem |
| 14:57.06 | Virtutis | the latests off teh website - just got it now version 5.0 o_O ? |
| 14:57.14 | Aceos | It will only enter a value if it has een the item on the AH before |
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| 14:57.36 | Virtutis | and previously even after one scan it would still attemmpt to offer a value, with this version is it set to scan multiple times b4 offering a value? |
| 14:57.43 | Speeddymon | Virtutis: yes, you need to scan more (over time) in order to build up the stats.. if you haven't seen spellcloth on the ah in your scans, then that is what happens |
| 14:57.55 | Speeddymon | no |
| 14:57.55 | Virtutis | yes it has "seen 13 times at auction" mediun buyout of 30g |
| 14:58.01 | Speeddymon | hmm |
| 14:58.06 | Virtutis | but only puts in 1g buyout o_O |
| 14:58.25 | Speeddymon | and when you select the spellcloth in appraiser, what model is it showing? |
| 14:58.31 | Aceos | Do you have your markdown % changed or something? |
| 14:59.48 | Aceos | WAIT A MINUTE!!! Virtu: It's showing you the value for 1 item not for the stack!!! To see the total buyout check the window to the right!! |
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| 15:00.01 | Virtutis | grr sry |
| 15:00.30 | Aceos | Virtu: It's showing you the value for 1 item not for the stack!!! To see the total buyout check the window to the right!! |
| 15:00.34 | Virtutis | in apraiser - and it was obviously a bit more lol it says - bid price 39, buyout price 43... |
| 15:01.11 | Speeddymon | lol |
| 15:01.12 | Virtutis | i go back to the auction tab and put it in the window and it inserts 1g 60s |
| 15:01.13 | Speeddymon | thats why |
| 15:01.21 | Speeddymon | we dont modify the auction tab |
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| 15:01.29 | Virtutis | ? |
| 15:01.34 | Speeddymon | to post with auctioneer's prices, you have to use the appraiser tab |
| 15:01.52 | Speeddymon | highlight what you want to sell, and set the options in the top section, then click the post button on the bottom left |
| 15:01.54 | Speeddymon | err |
| 15:01.56 | Speeddymon | bottom right |
| 15:02.01 | Virtutis | ohh kk so thats obviously different from the older versions sry |
| 15:02.14 | Speeddymon | well you used to use the "post" frame |
| 15:02.17 | Speeddymon | appraiser replaced that |
| 15:02.27 | Speeddymon | if you want that back, there is also a "switch ui" button.. click that |
| 15:02.44 | Virtutis | ahh kk ty sry for the bother i had myself completely lost lol >.< |
| 15:02.48 | Speeddymon | hehe np |
| 15:02.50 | Speeddymon | it happens |
| 15:02.58 | Virtutis | ty have fun XD |
| 15:03.21 | Aceos | Anyway speedy im using AuctioneerAdvancedSuite-5.0.PRE.2472 |
| 15:04.17 | Speeddymon | k |
| 15:04.41 | Speeddymon | then you want to get the first link from http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/#preview |
| 15:04.52 | Speeddymon | the 2472 is now up way higher than that and is what you should pay attention to |
| 15:05.23 | Aceos | Cool, I didnt know there was a preview page sorry |
| 15:06.03 | Aceos | If i just copy those folders in to he addons folder wil I have my existing scan data?? |
| 15:06.24 | Speeddymon | heh np |
| 15:06.41 | Speeddymon | the scan data is stored in a different folder.. World of Warcraft\WTF |
| 15:06.56 | Speeddymon | although we dont recommend copying over the old files in Interface\Addons |
| 15:07.24 | Aceos | So?? |
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| 15:07.36 | Speeddymon | we recommend looking at the folders in the zip you download, and manually deleting those from Interface\Addons first, then extracting as usual... it cuts down on the leftover files that cause headaches |
| 15:07.52 | YammYgirlcoding | morning all |
| 15:08.01 | Speeddymon | morning |
| 15:08.16 | Aceos | Ok, will do speeddy thank you! |
| 15:08.23 | YammYgirlcoding | I'm testing the adv tody :) |
| 15:08.27 | YammYgirlcoding | today |
| 15:09.02 | Speeddymon | np |
| 15:09.05 | YammYgirlcoding | And I wonder... Is there a way to put back the bid,buyout columns? |
| 15:09.10 | Speeddymon | kewl YammYgirlcoding.. |
| 15:09.18 | Speeddymon | where at YammYgirlcoding |
| 15:09.30 | YammYgirlcoding | at the regular scan tab |
| 15:09.57 | YammYgirlcoding | instead of price, put back the bid and bo columns. |
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| 15:10.21 | Speeddymon | you mean on the browse tab? |
| 15:10.24 | YammYgirlcoding | ya |
| 15:10.30 | Speeddymon | disable compactui in the options |
| 15:10.35 | Eilgan | I've looked on the forums, so forgive me if this is already a known issue but..... |
| 15:10.37 | YammYgirlcoding | ah just it? |
| 15:10.41 | Speeddymon | yes |
| 15:11.40 | Eilgan | I've used both AA5PRE2505 and AC5PRE2487, and neither one of them are picking up the Auctioneer.lua file in my SavedVariables |
| 15:12.24 | Eilgan | with AA I've tried the apprasier tab, no luck, changed all the drop downs, no luck |
| 15:13.18 | Speeddymon | Eilgan: aucadvanced uses a new data file format, you cannot port your data from the old auctioneer to advanced unfortunately |
| 15:13.34 | Speeddymon | we are looking into waye to transfer the data, but have no solution at this time |
| 15:13.39 | Speeddymon | s/waye/ways/ |
| 15:13.48 | Eilgan | okay, can I use AC to get to the old data? |
| 15:13.53 | Speeddymon | yes |
| 15:14.04 | Eilgan | really? hrm.....let me go see if I can get that to work |
| 15:14.14 | Eilgan | I only tried AA because AC wasn't picking it up |
| 15:14.33 | YammYgirlcoding | i removed the compactui, but still the price remains with one columns. blizz removed the two columns and put them together this patch? |
| 15:14.33 | Eilgan | is there another addon that needs to be installed with AC, like BeanCounter? |
| 15:15.17 | Speeddymon | negative |
| 15:15.30 | Speeddymon | as long as you download the classic suite, you should have everything you need |
| 15:15.43 | Eilgan | thanks Speeddy |
| 15:15.46 | Speeddymon | np |
| 15:15.55 | Speeddymon | make sure you get the latest version from our website |
| 15:16.07 | Eilgan | the one I got from Curse only had !Swatter, Auctioneer, EnhTooltip and Stubby |
| 15:16.08 | Speeddymon | we are pushing out new versions every day right now to fix issues with patch 2.3 |
| 15:17.12 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm so? |
| 15:18.07 | Speeddymon | .. |
| 15:18.16 | Speeddymon | sup YammYgirlcoding |
| 15:18.19 | YammYgirlcoding | i removed the compactui, but still the price remains with one columns. blizz removed the two columns and put them together this patch? |
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| 15:19.04 | YammYgirlcoding | if so i hated that >p |
| 15:19.13 | Speeddymon | hmm, im not sure, let me check.. brb |
| 15:20.03 | YammYgirlcoding | like. how will I order by bid or bo now :( |
| 15:20.10 | YammYgirlcoding | that sux |
| 15:21.19 | Speeddymon | YammYgirlcoding: take a screenshot and upload it to the site and then link me the link to the pic plz |
| 15:21.40 | Speeddymon | cause from what i see, it looks like it did before the patch |
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| 15:22.43 | Speeddymon | wb ckknight |
| 15:22.51 | Speeddymon | u ever update ace2? |
| 15:23.02 | YammYgirlcoding | who me? |
| 15:23.07 | Speeddymon | no ckknight |
| 15:23.29 | YammYgirlcoding | ace2 is 1 month late since yesterday :( no updates so dar |
| 15:23.31 | YammYgirlcoding | so far |
| 15:23.59 | Speeddymon | YammYgirlcoding i was talking to ckknight |
| 15:24.03 | YammYgirlcoding | Speeddymon do you see 1 column for price? |
| 15:24.24 | Speeddymon | yes, but the bid is on top and b/o on bottom for each auction |
| 15:24.32 | Speeddymon | it was that way before the patch too |
| 15:24.48 | YammYgirlcoding | This is the regular ? I swear I had bid and bo columns before |
| 15:24.48 | Eilgan | it's beautiful! *cries* I have my old auctioneer data back |
| 15:24.55 | Eilgan | thanks everybody! |
| 15:24.57 | Speeddymon | hehe Eilgan glad i could help |
| 15:25.05 | YammYgirlcoding | Eilgan what did you do for that? i guess i lost mine too hehe |
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| 15:25.16 | Speeddymon | hi Klazar |
| 15:25.28 | Speeddymon | YammYgirlcoding: gotta use auctioneer classic instead of advanced |
| 15:25.43 | Klazar | howdy ho, where does AA dump its error msgs? |
| 15:25.55 | YammYgirlcoding | Speeddymon can't i convert AC data to AA ? no conversor? |
| 15:26.15 | Speeddymon | nope |
| 15:26.27 | Speeddymon | Klazar /swat show |
| 15:26.37 | Eilgan | but the new AC has you convert it so that version can read it |
| 15:26.53 | Eilgan | got nervous when that came up hehe |
| 15:27.11 | Klazar | kk its frezzing up on me when i pause and restart version 2505 |
| 15:27.19 | YammYgirlcoding | i have to install AC first in order to have data converted, then put AA in place? |
| 15:27.34 | Klazar | i think thats the version lo |
| 15:30.44 | YammYgirlcoding | it's hard to change the browse fonts? |
| 15:30.51 | Speeddymon | YammYgirlcoding: no.. you cannot move your data from AC to AA.. period |
| 15:31.00 | Klazar | kk /swat show on WoW command line not doing anything |
| 15:31.23 | YammYgirlcoding | Speeddymon so all my data is gone? years of work? :((( |
| 15:31.24 | Speeddymon | Klazar look in your addons folder, make sure you see a folder called !swatter |
| 15:31.38 | Speeddymon | YammYgirlcoding: no, it's still there, but only readable by AC... |
| 15:31.44 | Klazar | hmmm should have that let me check |
| 15:32.20 | YammYgirlcoding | there will be a conversor anytime? |
| 15:32.34 | Stanzilla | fisheye down? |
| 15:32.46 | Klazar | \ |
| 15:32.51 | Klazar | yea its there |
| 15:33.28 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm I want to change the browse tab design. where do i start? |
| 15:34.58 | Klazar | think ill re-install, maybe dump my wtf file as well for AA |
| 15:35.04 | YammYgirlcoding | i want to remove 1 column and change font size |
| 15:35.24 | Klazar | only have a few dyas data |
| 15:35.29 | Speeddymon | heh |
| 15:36.00 | Speeddymon | Klazar: if /swat show isnt working, and !swatter is there, make sure it is enabled and that load out of data addons is checked |
| 15:36.06 | Speeddymon | s/data/date |
| 15:36.09 | Speeddymon | s/data/date/ |
| 15:36.13 | Speeddymon | damnit |
| 15:36.19 | Speeddymon | YammYgirlcoding: i dont know to be honest |
| 15:36.29 | Speeddymon | Stanzilla: lemme check |
| 15:36.43 | Klazar | yea good idea should a thought of that myself |
| 15:36.50 | Klazar | :-) |
| 15:36.51 | Stanzilla | Speeddymon: I tried http://fisheye.norganna.org/changelog/Auctioneer |
| 15:37.03 | Stanzilla | => 503 - service temporarily unavailable |
| 15:37.28 | Speeddymon | yea im gettin that too.. |
| 15:37.38 | Speeddymon | guess it is |
| 15:38.55 | Kandoko | fiheye has been crasjing a lot lately |
| 15:39.20 | Stanzilla | the wowace one, too |
| 15:40.32 | Speeddymon | hm |
| 15:44.14 | YammYgirlcoding | wow it used to need 10min to scan the AH. now it's 35 min. why ? |
| 15:44.50 | YammYgirlcoding | it have to do with the 48h thing? |
| 15:44.53 | Speeddymon | bliz reinstated the 5sec delay between pages.. |
| 15:45.06 | Speeddymon | and yes due to auctions lasting longer, more sit on the ah now |
| 15:45.19 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm bad thing uh :( |
| 15:45.23 | Speeddymon | ya |
| 15:45.45 | Speeddymon | hm i was wrong abiout the 5sec delay.. im still scanning fast.. |
| 15:45.53 | Speeddymon | just must have a helluva lot of pages |
| 15:46.12 | YammYgirlcoding | here it changed too much :( from 10 to 30 is triple more time :(( |
| 15:46.20 | Speeddymon | how many auctions is it scanning? |
| 15:46.28 | Speeddymon | or how many pages..? |
| 15:46.34 | YammYgirlcoding | 330 pages |
| 15:46.39 | Speeddymon | yea thats why |
| 15:46.51 | Speeddymon | your server went from a mid-sized ah to a large one really quick |
| 15:46.56 | YammYgirlcoding | O.o |
| 15:47.11 | Speeddymon | how many auctions per second you getting? |
| 15:47.14 | Speeddymon | roughly.. |
| 15:47.22 | YammYgirlcoding | 7.32 a/sec |
| 15:47.35 | YammYgirlcoding | bad? |
| 15:47.36 | Speeddymon | you using classic or advanced? |
| 15:47.39 | YammYgirlcoding | adv |
| 15:48.00 | Speeddymon | odd.. maybe your server is lagged |
| 15:48.22 | RogueShadow | hehe, crazy, one time I got it all at once, one time pages really fast, then seemingly back to normal. |
| 15:48.25 | YammYgirlcoding | but before patch it was like 10mins. it can't have increased so fast! |
| 15:49.02 | YammYgirlcoding | it's dropping too much greens and blues after patch? |
| 15:49.39 | YammYgirlcoding | yesterday i saw 3 blues in less than one hour from ordinary low lv mobs. maybe it have to do with the flood. too many loots |
| 15:49.51 | Speeddymon | possibly.. but i doubt it |
| 15:49.55 | Speeddymon | think about it like this.. |
| 15:49.59 | RockSlice | YammYgirlcoding: ignoring the estimate on the screen, how long is each page taking? |
| 15:50.34 | Speeddymon | you post an auction for 24 hours, and several other people do that.. now say none get bought in 24 hours.. the auction expires.. |
| 15:50.45 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm counting from clock, it's adding 1 page every 4 seconds |
| 15:51.24 | RockSlice | that's slow |
| 15:51.33 | Speeddymon | now say you and everyone else posts their auctions again, this time for 48 hours.. 24 hours goes by and other people post a bunch of auctions.. then the other 24 hours goes by and yours expire.. |
| 15:51.37 | YammYgirlcoding | ping is 574ms |
| 15:51.48 | RockSlice | would explain it |
| 15:51.58 | Speeddymon | during that 2nd 24 hours, you have double what you would have had before the patch |
| 15:52.04 | Speeddymon | and yea 574ms is a baaad ping |
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| 15:52.09 | Klazar | all my AA addons are loaded so not sure why /swat does not work. |
| 15:52.11 | Speeddymon | ni DirkS |
| 15:52.18 | Speeddymon | s/ni/hi/ |
| 15:52.18 | Syriphina | Call me synical |
| 15:52.22 | DirkS | heya |
| 15:52.23 | YammYgirlcoding | hmmm i see. the time that people used to lose between the expired auctions and the re-auction is reduced to half. right? |
| 15:52.38 | Syriphina | But How many WoW gamers are going to want "Breat Surgery, Liposuction or Nose Reshaping"? |
| 15:52.41 | Speeddymon | no.. theres more auctions going up in the same amount of time, but less expiring.. |
| 15:52.42 | RockSlice | klazar: do you have any other debug addons (Improved Error screen, etc) |
| 15:52.49 | Syriphina | Because that's the ad I just got on Curse Gaming :) |
| 15:52.54 | DirkS | hey is the "Search" tab going to be coming back in AucAdv? |
| 15:53.06 | Klazar | aahhh yes im running bugsack for fubar |
| 15:53.08 | Speeddymon | DirkS: its on its way |
| 15:53.14 | DirkS | shweet |
| 15:53.26 | Speeddymon | it actually is already out |
| 15:53.33 | Speeddymon | update to the one at this link: |
| 15:53.40 | Speeddymon | http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/#preview |
| 15:53.54 | RockSlice | Klazar: swatter automatically disables itself when it detects another addon doing the same job |
| 15:53.57 | Speeddymon | if you use classic, get that, if not, get advanced |
| 15:54.36 | Klazar | kk im getting a freezeup on AA when its scanning and i pause it but i cant seem to find the error msg |
| 15:54.45 | RockSlice | Klazar: if you turn off bugsack, swatter should load |
| 15:54.54 | Klazar | yea let me do that |
| 15:55.01 | Klazar | brb |
| 15:55.13 | YammYgirlcoding | hmmmm so. As I lost all classic data, how many times a day and for how long i'd have to keep scanning, to have a good average price ? 2 weeks? a month? |
| 15:55.27 | RockSlice | klazar, the freezeup is most likely known, we're looking into it |
| 15:56.31 | Speeddymon | YammYgirlcoding: for the last time, you didnt lose the classic data... you still have it, its just not readable by advanced.. |
| 15:56.48 | YammYgirlcoding | its the same as i lost as i cant read it |
| 15:56.50 | Speeddymon | if you reinstall classic (you can keep advanced installed) then you can get your old data back |
| 15:57.19 | YammYgirlcoding | what. you mean i can have both installed and running? i saw someone say they cant work together |
| 15:57.22 | Speeddymon | and while you scan with classic, advanced will get the data classic reads so that when you want to switch to advanced, you already have a good database |
| 15:57.25 | Klazar | ok i figured as much want to be able to get you the msg though if needed looks like it loaded up this time |
| 15:57.30 | Speeddymon | whoever said that is lying |
| 15:58.07 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm so i will install classic after this scan :p |
| 15:58.22 | Speeddymon | classic and advanced were specifically designed to work together so that the transition to advanced is easier and you lose only a minimal amount of data when we do decide to stop supporting classic |
| 15:58.26 | Speeddymon | k |
| 15:58.30 | RockSlice | ~norgbug Klazar |
| 15:58.31 | purl | Hi Klazar, in order to report your bug here, simply select and copy the text in the Swatter bug details box (use "/swat show" if you've already closed it), and go to http://norganna.pastey.net ; Once you're there, paste your bug into the box, submit and paste the resultant URL into the chat. Thanks! |
| 15:59.15 | Speeddymon | ~auctstuff |
| 15:59.15 | purl | I know about the following topics (type one for more info): ~aucdeletesv, ~auctioneerbeta, ~auctioneersvn, ~auctfaq, ~auctinstall, ~enxstatus, ~enxstatusdetails, ~norgjira, ~norgbug <nickname> |
| 15:59.16 | Klazar | thnx thats pretty easy |
| 15:59.22 | Speeddymon | ~auctioneerbeta |
| 15:59.23 | purl | Go to http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl you'll find links to the test versions of auctioneer and it's component addons near the bottom of the page. |
| 16:00.26 | Speeddymon | purl no auctioneerbeta is <reply> The 2.3-compatible version of Auctioneer Advanced and Auctioneer Classic (formerly known as 4.x) can be obtained from http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/#preview |
| 16:00.27 | purl | Speeddymon: okay |
| 16:00.32 | Speeddymon | ~auctioneerbeta |
| 16:00.33 | purl | The 2.3-compatible version of Auctioneer Advanced and Auctioneer Classic (formerly known as 4.x) can be obtained from http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/#preview |
| 16:00.51 | Speeddymon | ~aucdeletesv |
| 16:00.52 | purl | Did you try deleting (or backing up) the file "/WTF/Account/<account name>/SavedVariables/Auctioneer.lua" while WoW is not running? This can fix various problems, but you will lose your old auction scan data. |
| 16:00.52 | DirkS | so i dl'ed the lastest preview, but i don't see search...anything i need to do to enable it? |
| 16:01.05 | Speeddymon | ~auctioneersvn |
| 16:01.05 | purl | You can get the Auctioneer SVN from http://svn.norganna.org/auctioneer/trunk (See also ~svn and ~tortoisesvn) |
| 16:01.16 | Speeddymon | ~auctfaq |
| 16:01.17 | purl | Check the FAQs in the support forum at http://norganna.org/discuss/4 |
| 16:01.26 | Speeddymon | ~enxstatus |
| 16:01.27 | purl | Enchantrix is not in the current Auctioneer release. There are a few outstanding issues that made Auctioneer authors wait on releasing it. A gamma version of Enchantrix is still available at http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/Enchantrix/ and should be functional with the 4.0 release of Auctioneer. |
| 16:02.01 | RockSlice | DirkS: try looking in the slidebar (default location is by the minimap), and click on the magnifying glass |
| 16:02.14 | DirkS | k i will check that |
| 16:03.06 | Speeddymon | purl no enxstatus is <reply> Enchantrix is currently available in the preview release of Auctioneer Advanced. There are a few outstanding issues, but for the most part it is good for general use. You can obtain it by visiting http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl and grabbing a copy of either Auctioneer Classic or Auctioneer Advanced |
| 16:03.07 | purl | Speeddymon: okay |
| 16:03.08 | DirkS | is that the one that has the option buttons for Auctioneer, Gatherer, BeanCounter, etc? |
| 16:03.17 | DirkS | i dont see a magnifying glass |
| 16:03.19 | Speeddymon | ~enxstatusdetails |
| 16:03.20 | purl | Enchantrix's percentless and bidbroker are non-operational, DE predictions for items whose rounded up ilevel is 55 or 60 are unavailable, and DE predictions for all ilevel items 61+ are only available from self learning. Additionally, upload of Enchantrix data is temporarily unavailable. Your friendly mod authors apologise for any inconvenience caused. |
| 16:03.34 | Speeddymon | purl forget enxstatusdetails |
| 16:03.34 | purl | Speeddymon: i forgot enxstatusdetails |
| 16:04.12 | Speeddymon | purl no auctstuff is <reply> I know about the following topics (type one for more info): ~aucdeletesv, ~auctioneerbeta, ~auctioneersvn, ~auctfaq, ~auctinstall, ~enxstatus, ~norgjira, ~norgbug <nickname>, ~recruitingdrive |
| 16:04.13 | purl | Speeddymon: okay |
| 16:04.26 | Speeddymon | purl recruitingdrive is <reply> test |
| 16:04.26 | purl | Speeddymon: okay |
| 16:04.32 | Speeddymon | ~recruitingdrive |
| 16:04.33 | purl | test |
| 16:06.14 | RockSlice | DirkS: looking more closely, that seems to have failed to make it into the build script |
| 16:06.38 | DirkS | ahh |
| 16:06.50 | DirkS | so im not crazy heheh |
| 16:06.54 | RockSlice | nope |
| 16:07.17 | Speeddymon | purl no recruitingdrive is <reply> If you would like to apply for a position on the auctioneer team, please ensure you have read http://norganna.org/wiki/OrganizationalChart and determined that you would be good for the spot which you are applying. Then, please ensure you have an active forum account. Once that is done, join #norganna-dev and give your forum name to either Esamynn, MentalPower, or norgs |
| 16:07.17 | purl | okay, Speeddymon |
| 16:07.25 | Speeddymon | ~recruitingdrive |
| 16:07.25 | purl | If you would like to apply for a position on the auctioneer team, please ensure you have read http://norganna.org/wiki/OrganizationalChart and determined that you would be good for the spot which you are applying. Then, please ensure you have an active forum account. Once that is done, join #norganna-dev and give your forum name to either Esamynn, MentalPower, ... |
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| 16:07.40 | Speeddymon | purl no recruitingdrive is <reply> If you would like to apply for a position on the auctioneer team, please ensure you have read http://norganna.org/wiki/OrganizationalChart and determined that you would be good for the spot which you are applying. Then, please ensure you have an active forum account. Once that is done, join #norganna-dev and give your forum name to Esamynn, MentalPower, or norgs |
| 16:07.41 | purl | Speeddymon: okay |
| 16:07.42 | Speeddymon | ~recruitingdrive |
| 16:07.43 | purl | If you would like to apply for a position on the auctioneer team, please ensure you have read http://norganna.org/wiki/OrganizationalChart and determined that you would be good for the spot which you are applying. Then, please ensure you have an active forum account. Once that is done, join #norganna-dev and give your forum name to Esamynn, MentalPower, or norgs |
| 16:07.43 | EnterNick | hey |
| 16:07.44 | EnterNick | i got a question... |
| 16:07.54 | Speeddymon | hi EnterNick |
| 16:07.59 | RockSlice | we may have an answer |
| 16:08.05 | EnterNick | i have the auctioneer... go to an AH... press scan.. |
| 16:08.08 | EnterNick | nothing happends :) |
| 16:08.13 | Speeddymon | what version? |
| 16:08.16 | EnterNick | 2.3 |
| 16:08.23 | EnterNick | on wow |
| 16:08.28 | EnterNick | latest on auctineer |
| 16:08.28 | RockSlice | of auctioneer |
| 16:08.35 | Speeddymon | latest being..? |
| 16:08.45 | EnterNick | 5.0 pre 2505 |
| 16:08.50 | Speeddymon | ah, ok |
| 16:08.51 | EnterNick | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/78/ |
| 16:09.00 | EnterNick | so.. when i press scan |
| 16:09.04 | EnterNick | should some message appear? |
| 16:09.15 | EnterNick | like scan starting or anything ? |
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| 16:09.28 | Speeddymon | 15 secs is a reasonable time to see something like "scanning 2473 auctions" |
| 16:09.36 | EnterNick | where? |
| 16:09.44 | EnterNick | where do i see it? |
| 16:09.45 | Speeddymon | where you normally see items in the auction house |
| 16:09.52 | EnterNick | oh.. |
| 16:10.10 | EnterNick | i see "choose search criteria and press "search"" |
| 16:10.20 | Alleria-Newb | okay. yes. I'm a newb and can't find it on the website. how do I transfer the database from Auctioneer 4 to the Auctioneer 5 |
| 16:10.21 | Speeddymon | then within a few seconds after that it should start showing some other numbers like the scan speed in auctions per second, and what page it is on, and how many pages there are total |
| 16:10.30 | Speeddymon | Alleria-Newb: there is no way to right now |
| 16:10.36 | Alleria-Newb | no.... |
| 16:10.37 | EnterNick | oh... |
| 16:10.42 | EnterNick | i dont see anything like that.. |
| 16:11.01 | Alleria-Newb | okay. thanks for the help! |
| 16:11.05 | Speeddymon | Alleria-Newb: wait |
| 16:11.28 | RockSlice | Alleria-Newb: AucClassic will use the Auc4 data |
| 16:11.35 | Speeddymon | Alleria-Newb: you can use Auctioneer Classic and Auctioneer Advanced at the same time tho and advanced will store the data you get with classic (4.x) so when you are ready to switch, you don't lose anything |
| 16:11.36 | RockSlice | AucAdvanced won't |
| 16:11.40 | EnterNick | man alleria please w8 for me to finish :| |
| 16:11.45 | EnterNick | and then ask for advice |
| 16:11.48 | EnterNick | or use the pm :| |
| 16:11.48 | YammYgirlcoding | is there a way to block guild whispers while scaning the AH? ! |
| 16:12.10 | Speeddymon | EnterNick: we prefer to not get PM's and anyone is free to ask questions any time, even if i am helping you, i can help someone else as well |
| 16:12.19 | EnterNick | oh.... |
| 16:12.27 | EnterNick | well if you can do that.. it's ok.. |
| 16:12.30 | Speeddymon | YammYgirlcoding: you mean the green guild test? no |
| 16:12.31 | RockSlice | plus we have more than one op :) |
| 16:12.38 | Speeddymon | s/text?/text? |
| 16:12.42 | EnterNick | ok |
| 16:12.53 | EnterNick | so... my scan button doesn't work |
| 16:12.54 | YammYgirlcoding | i mean the 'wanna sign my guild chart' thing |
| 16:12.54 | Speeddymon | dangit i cant type my replace strings today |
| 16:13.08 | RockSlice | EnterNick: when installing, did you delete all the old auctioneer folders? |
| 16:13.12 | Speeddymon | YammYgirlcoding: unfortunately i dont think there is a way to |
| 16:13.18 | EnterNick | i installed it using curse mod |
| 16:13.25 | EnterNick | very simple to install |
| 16:13.37 | EnterNick | all the other mods installed the same way work |
| 16:13.40 | RockSlice | YammYgirlcoding: protecting the AH window in on the todo list |
| 16:14.04 | Alleria-Newb | thanks for the help, guys. keep up the good work ^_^ |
| 16:14.10 | RockSlice | EnterNick: we've had problems with old files sticking around and messing things up |
| 16:14.11 | Speeddymon | any time Alleria-Newb |
| 16:14.11 | YammYgirlcoding | i just lost 20 mins of scanning for a bitch askin to sign guild! #$@$#@$@#$@!#%$#!@#!@#%$ |
| 16:14.34 | EnterNick | oh i forgot to mention |
| 16:14.43 | EnterNick | i'm playing on a free, pirate server |
| 16:14.46 | EnterNick | not on blizz |
| 16:14.57 | EnterNick | does that have any importance? |
| 16:15.02 | RockSlice | YammYgirlcoding: workaround: join a guild, or create one. On one server, I created "Is not interested in a guild" |
| 16:15.45 | RockSlice | enternick: if you're playing on a server that doesn't use blizzard's exact API, we can't really help you too much |
| 16:15.57 | RockSlice | feel free to try versions in the file archive |
| 16:15.59 | YammYgirlcoding | rofl |
| 16:16.07 | EnterNick | but on another realm of the same server |
| 16:16.14 | EnterNick | some items like silk |
| 16:16.27 | EnterNick | had a "20 times seen in auction" message |
| 16:16.30 | EnterNick | and an averadge price |
| 16:16.39 | EnterNick | and all the realms have the same core |
| 16:16.47 | EnterNick | and same algorithm |
| 16:17.01 | RockSlice | you obviously had data from that realm |
| 16:18.46 | RockSlice | the bottom line is that Blizzard's API is what we are coding for. There is no guarantee that free pirate servers are using the exact same API, so we can't provide technical support if our addon doesn't fit it |
| 16:19.00 | YammYgirlcoding | why auct can't updated data while it's beeing loaded? |
| 16:19.20 | RockSlice | YammYgirlcoding: ? |
| 16:19.39 | YammYgirlcoding | like. if i scan 299/300 pages. and the window get closed, i lose it all. |
| 16:19.58 | YammYgirlcoding | why the 299 pages can't be updated while it's beeing loaded? |
| 16:20.13 | Speeddymon | purl transferdata is <reply> Auctioneer Classic (4.x) data cannot be transferred to Auctioneer Advanced, however, if you install them both at the same time, Advanced will piggyback scans with classic, and store the data, so that when you are ready to switch (or when we drop support for classic), you will have lots and lots of data to go by. |
| 16:20.14 | purl | Speeddymon: okay |
| 16:20.18 | RockSlice | AucAdv will pause the scan. AucClassic doesn't have that feature |
| 16:20.36 | Speeddymon | purl no auctstuff is <reply> I know about the following topics (type one for more info): ~aucdeletesv, ~auctioneerbeta, ~auctioneersvn, ~auctfaq, ~auctinstall, ~enxstatus, ~norgjira, ~norgbug <nickname>, ~recruitingdrive, ~transferdata |
| 16:20.36 | purl | okay, Speeddymon |
| 16:20.47 | DirkS | so it sounds like the Search will make it in for the next build? is there anyway to enable it now? |
| 16:20.52 | Speeddymon | ~auctstuff |
| 16:20.52 | purl | I know about the following topics (type one for more info): ~aucdeletesv, ~auctioneerbeta, ~auctioneersvn, ~auctfaq, ~auctinstall, ~enxstatus, ~norgjira, ~norgbug <nickname>, ~recruitingdrive, ~transferdata |
| 16:21.06 | Speeddymon | DirkS: should be in the current build..i think |
| 16:21.18 | Speeddymon | let me check |
| 16:21.26 | RockSlice | Speeddymon: it isn't |
| 16:21.41 | Speeddymon | guh |
| 16:21.42 | RockSlice | DirkS: you could manually download it from http://zip.norganna.org/auctioneer/Auc-Util-SearchUI/ |
| 16:21.46 | YammYgirlcoding | i will install classic together with AA. but some of classic folders have the same name. should I skill these ones? or they are the same? |
| 16:21.52 | RockSlice | and put it in Auc-Advanced/modules |
| 16:21.57 | DirkS | well a minute ago, rockslice mentioned that it may have missed getting into the build |
| 16:22.05 | YammYgirlcoding | sip* |
| 16:22.07 | YammYgirlcoding | skip* |
| 16:22.09 | DirkS | ah ok sweet |
| 16:22.13 | DirkS | thx! |
| 16:22.16 | Speeddymon | RockSlice: there were some changes made to the coreapi to support it so he would also need Auc-Advanced from there as well |
| 16:22.53 | Speeddymon | YammYgirlcoding: install classic, and then reinstall advanced.. advanced stuff works with classic but not the other way around (even tho they are the same) |
| 16:23.03 | RockSlice | DirkS: get the 2505 version, as that was designed to work with 2505 build |
| 16:23.09 | DirkS | will do |
| 16:23.38 | DirkS | so i will just need to get those versions of the AucAdv core and AucSearch |
| 16:23.38 | YammYgirlcoding | Speeddymon should I delete all folders from AA, then install classic, then what? overwrite the equal folders with AA folders? |
| 16:25.28 | RockSlice | YammYgirlcoding: any folders called the same should be identical |
| 16:25.52 | RockSlice | DirkS: the rest of 2505 is in the 2505 build |
| 16:26.12 | Daede | hey rockslice |
| 16:26.18 | Daede | when 2.3 first came out |
| 16:26.19 | RockSlice | hey |
| 16:26.24 | Daede | it took like 2m to scan |
| 16:26.27 | Daede | now |
| 16:26.35 | Daede | it takes like 2x as long as before 2.3 |
| 16:26.38 | Daede | what gives? |
| 16:27.13 | RockSlice | we had to add routines to slow down the scan because we weren't getting all the data |
| 16:27.26 | YammYgirlcoding | i mean in AA.zip there is { auc-bla, enchantrix, beancounter }. and in AC.zip there is { auc, enchantrix, beancounter }. What should I do? install AC then AA. and what do I do with the same folders? let them overwrite or skip? |
| 16:27.28 | Daede | did you have to slow it down *that* much? :s |
| 16:27.34 | RockSlice | typically it should be 1-2 seconds per page |
| 16:27.47 | Daede | im scanning 6.9 APS |
| 16:27.55 | RockSlice | YammYgirlcoding: either. doesn't matter |
| 16:28.09 | RockSlice | Deade: are you using AC or AA? |
| 16:28.13 | Daede | AA |
| 16:28.15 | Daede | ofc |
| 16:28.24 | RockSlice | what's your latency? |
| 16:28.29 | Daede | 186 |
| 16:28.33 | YammYgirlcoding | If I doesn't install AC, how long will I need to have a nice average price? 1 month? |
| 16:28.49 | Daede | nah about a week of twice daily scans |
| 16:28.51 | RockSlice | guaging by the clock, how many seconds per page? |
| 16:28.55 | Daede | i go on 10 days |
| 16:29.12 | Daede | about 3.3s |
| 16:29.13 | YammYgirlcoding | ah so i will let the old data behind :) |
| 16:29.36 | Daede | thats what i did |
| 16:29.37 | Speeddymon | Daede: some of the realms ah sizes have doubled due to the new 48 hour auctions.. the same amount of auctions are being created as before, but they take longer to expire, so in 24 hours when they would have expired, they aren't.. making the ah size go up, that accounts for some of the slowness.. |
| 16:30.04 | DirkS | yay search window :) thx |
| 16:30.10 | Daede | ye well |
| 16:30.15 | Daede | pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt |
| 16:30.20 | YammYgirlcoding | Remember i was saying it was taking 35min to scan 330 pages today early? I put to scan again and now it's incredibely fast, 6 minutes for all. That's because I already have the same data stored? |
| 16:30.22 | Daede | that sucks =P |
| 16:30.29 | RockSlice | Daede: if you turn off the progress text, you will probably see some names missing for the first second on each page |
| 16:30.31 | Daede | we got teased with the uBerfast scan |
| 16:30.33 | DirkS | will it be a tab in the AH window eventually? |
| 16:30.47 | Daede | then got the scan time doubled xD |
| 16:31.26 | RockSlice | DirkS: i believe that is the plan, though it may still have the standalone as well, a la Beancounter |
| 16:31.54 | Speeddymon | YammYgirlcoding: no its because your ping probably went down |
| 16:32.28 | Daede | ok its up to 9aps i can live with that |
| 16:32.28 | YammYgirlcoding | Speeddymon odlly my ping went upper. it's 700ms now |
| 16:32.44 | DirkS | kewl thx for your help! |
| 16:33.18 | Speeddymon | YammYgirlcoding: i dunno then |
| 16:33.46 | Speeddymon | slow comp maybe? we have code in to make sure that data is written before switching pages, so perhaps your computer writes data to the hard drive slowly? |
| 16:34.17 | Speeddymon | or is overloaded by wow and addons.. there are a lot of factors that affect the speed |
| 16:34.19 | RockSlice | YammYgirlcoding & Daede: I'm betting the slowness is actually server-side, due to high load |
| 16:34.26 | Speeddymon | most likely.. |
| 16:34.57 | YammYgirlcoding | but like. half hour ago, i was having 330 pages in 35 min. now I reescan it ,and it done in 7 minutes. I wonder if that's why i already had the same data stored. |
| 16:35.10 | Speeddymon | no |
| 16:35.20 | Speeddymon | because all of the data gets _re_stored every time you scan |
| 16:35.46 | RockSlice | what times did you start the two scans (server time) |
| 16:35.58 | YammYgirlcoding | strange thing. But coincidently, it took 35 mins for the first scan ever, as I had no data stored before. |
| 16:36.16 | YammYgirlcoding | RockSlice first: half hour ago. second, right now. |
| 16:36.24 | YammYgirlcoding | i started a third time here, and again 7 mins. |
| 16:36.41 | RockSlice | what's your server time? |
| 16:36.50 | YammYgirlcoding | 11:35am |
| 16:36.57 | Daede | mine is going a lot faster now |
| 16:37.01 | YammYgirlcoding | it was , duno, 11:00 for the first time |
| 16:37.01 | Daede | 14aps |
| 16:37.05 | RockSlice | hmm. not a typical high-load time |
| 16:37.17 | Daede | pfff its saturday and right before all the games start |
| 16:37.27 | YammYgirlcoding | from 7 to 35 is pretty long time. i guess i will delete the lua file to see if it becomes 35 again |
| 16:37.36 | RockSlice | right. forgot it's weekend |
| 16:37.51 | RockSlice | don't delete. rename |
| 16:38.07 | RockSlice | or you'll have just wasted a lot of time |
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| 16:39.01 | YammYgirlcoding | i know hehe |
| 16:39.09 | YammYgirlcoding | it's auc-scandata.lua ? |
| 16:39.11 | Speeddymon | yes |
| 16:39.17 | RogueShadow | I only have 88 pages in the azshara ah. |
| 16:39.25 | YammYgirlcoding | O.o i have 330 hehe |
| 16:39.49 | RogueShadow | good and bad all at once. Mostly good if your patient. |
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| 16:40.10 | YammYgirlcoding | is it easyer to sell on lower populated servers? |
| 16:40.30 | Daede | not really |
| 16:40.54 | Daede | 325 pages on antonidas |
| 16:40.56 | YammYgirlcoding | cause on mine there is ALWAYS somebody undercutting you for whatever you put in the AH :p |
| 16:41.11 | Speeddymon | 67 on Haomarush |
| 16:41.16 | Daede | buy it and immediately relist it at your price |
| 16:41.36 | Daede | or undercut the market so low and keep it flooded that you killt he market for that item |
| 16:41.46 | Daede | then you can pretty much set whatever price you want |
| 16:41.47 | YammYgirlcoding | ha. i wish. they undercut for coppers. it's not worth to buy to relist |
| 16:42.17 | Daede | i broght copper bars down to 50s a stack and kept it there for 3 days |
| 16:42.26 | Daede | cuz these pricks kept undercutting me |
| 16:42.36 | RogueShadow | a lot of people complain about azshara, but I haven't had any real problems, then again i'm purely casual. Some days I dont' even play. |
| 16:42.40 | Daede | still hasnt restabilized.. it's at 1g/stack when it shoyuld be 1.5 |
| 16:42.49 | YammYgirlcoding | i tried cornering a market once. endup broken. chose 1 iten, bought them all for a week, and when I put to sell, nobody wanted. |
| 16:43.14 | Daede | i didnt corner |
| 16:43.22 | YammYgirlcoding | undercut too much is bad i think. you lose money. |
| 16:43.29 | Daede | i was listing copper bars 1% under the market |
| 16:43.37 | Daede | so this dude undercuts me by 10% |
| 16:43.46 | Daede | so i said okay and i undercut him by 1% |
| 16:43.51 | Daede | so he dropped another 5 |
| 16:43.53 | YammYgirlcoding | dont you hate those suckers that do that |
| 16:44.09 | Daede | so i frmed copper for 3 days straight and sold stack after stack after stack for 50s |
| 16:44.28 | YammYgirlcoding | but at the end, you lost money |
| 16:44.30 | Daede | he had to relist his 40+ stacks 4 times |
| 16:44.36 | Daede | so |
| 16:44.40 | Daede | he hasnt tried it again |
| 16:44.45 | YammYgirlcoding | aaah hehe |
| 16:45.02 | YammYgirlcoding | but still. he wins. made you lose money |
| 16:45.13 | Daede | i promise he lost more |
| 16:45.50 | Daede | like i said |
| 16:45.53 | YammYgirlcoding | you kept relisting all of his undercutting items? |
| 16:45.54 | Daede | he hasnt done it again |
| 16:45.57 | Daede | no |
| 16:46.02 | Daede | i would pull mine and relist |
| 16:46.13 | YammYgirlcoding | just taking yours out and relisting for lower? |
| 16:46.18 | Daede | ye |
| 16:46.29 | Daede | cuz he had a steady stream coming in |
| 16:46.39 | Daede | he wasnt running out so my shit was just sitting there |
| 16:46.43 | RockSlice | Daede: he didn't lose money, because he probably just waited until the price as back |
| 16:46.48 | YammYgirlcoding | rofl |
| 16:47.01 | Daede | rock he relisted his stuff 4 days in a row |
| 16:47.03 | RockSlice | his income was just delayed |
| 16:47.14 | YammYgirlcoding | but he sold it all relisting for too low prices, i think it's losing money |
| 16:47.17 | RockSlice | so he lost 4 days of deposit |
| 16:47.32 | YammYgirlcoding | ah i see |
| 16:47.35 | Daede | yeah |
| 16:47.49 | Daede | but the point is |
| 16:47.54 | Daede | he hasnt pulled that again |
| 16:47.55 | Daede | :) |
| 16:48.04 | Daede | if its a liquid market item |
| 16:48.05 | RockSlice | see, I don't post at all if the comp is more than 30% below market |
| 16:48.17 | Daede | you dont undercut the mean by more than 3% on this server |
| 16:48.33 | Daede | you just dont |
| 16:48.36 | Daede | nobody does |
| 16:48.41 | Daede | and he just kept doing it |
| 16:48.56 | YammYgirlcoding | but the price end up going down, cause everyone is undercutting everyone by 5% for the default AC value. |
| 16:49.01 | Daede | now the copper bar market is completely screwed |
| 16:49.13 | Daede | but recovering slowly |
| 16:49.14 | YammYgirlcoding | you put 100. one put 95. and it keep going |
| 16:50.03 | RockSlice | it'll recover. low prices mean people won't post, won't farm for it, and will buy up the supply more... that means less supply, more demand... prices rise |
| 16:50.11 | Daede | like iron bars are hitting 3g right now |
| 16:50.20 | YammYgirlcoding | like you see a stack of cloth from 2g to 55 silver. and like 200 of them mixed. what should we do? wait? |
| 16:50.23 | Daede | which is pretty low |
| 16:50.45 | Daede | so im gonna stick with what everyone else is doing |
| 16:50.52 | Daede | list mine for 3g |
| 16:51.45 | RockSlice | YammYgirlcoding: if your undercut settings don't let you undercut the competition, don't post unless it's very high demand |
| 16:52.08 | RockSlice | (or deposit cost is nil, in which case don't bother undercutting anyway - it'll sell eventually) |
| 16:52.35 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm how do I detect there is a high demand? with less offer? |
| 16:53.05 | RockSlice | you get a feel for the market. enchanting mats are usually high demand |
| 16:53.44 | RockSlice | low-level stuff is usually low demand |
| 16:53.46 | Daede | that's when "Seen xx times at Auction House" comes in real handy :) |
| 16:54.06 | YammYgirlcoding | hmmm |
| 16:54.31 | RockSlice | yeah. if you've seen it 20,000 times in the last week, but there's only ever 1000 on at one time, demand is through the roof |
| 16:54.33 | YammYgirlcoding | question. when we chose an item from bag in appraiser, is it searching the real data, or is it showing stored data? |
| 16:54.48 | RockSlice | stored |
| 16:55.02 | YammYgirlcoding | oh. that would be more handy if it searched :( |
| 16:55.09 | Daede | so always scane before you do your semi-dailies :) |
| 16:55.18 | Daede | s/scan/scane |
| 16:55.24 | YammYgirlcoding | any chance i can set it up to search instead? |
| 16:55.41 | YammYgirlcoding | that would be very very handy |
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| 16:56.24 | RockSlice | it would, but would be impractical currently (more practical than it used to be, though, with the lower scan delay) |
| 16:56.51 | YammYgirlcoding | even with the delay, it's just 1 item search. can't take so long |
| 16:56.54 | RockSlice | you can press "refresh" and it will refresh your data for that item |
| 16:57.09 | Daede | nice |
| 16:57.32 | Daede | so how much progress you made on my print-in and broker/bidbroker requests? xD |
| 16:57.38 | Daede | fat guy doin a handstand, man |
| 16:57.45 | Daede | cant resist that |
| 16:57.52 | RockSlice | the click-hooks are functional |
| 16:58.07 | RockSlice | norg's the one doing the SearchUI |
| 16:58.19 | YammYgirlcoding | oh the refresh searches? but wait. it's bugged here |
| 16:58.40 | YammYgirlcoding | there is only 1 defias belt listed. everytime i press refresh, it adds another one in the apraiser |
| 16:58.43 | RockSlice | YammYgirlcoding: yeah, we know |
| 16:58.48 | YammYgirlcoding | ah right :) |
| 16:59.03 | YammYgirlcoding | but well, at least it works hehe |
| 16:59.16 | RockSlice | you can probably guarantee that 90% of the devs are powerauctioneers |
| 16:59.20 | RockSlice | yup |
| 16:59.32 | YammYgirlcoding | =^^= gladly |
| 16:59.37 | RogueShadow | Is it common to see people posting the same thing 6 times, and 3 of them for half the buyout |
| 16:59.54 | RockSlice | some of the features I've coded were because not having it was pissing me off (undercut) |
| 16:59.59 | YammYgirlcoding | half the bo? i dont do that :) |
| 17:00.25 | YammYgirlcoding | i think undercutting myself is silly thing to do hehe |
| 17:00.47 | RogueShadow | He undercut himself by 50% on the same thing at the same time |
| 17:00.59 | YammYgirlcoding | and that works? |
| 17:01.04 | RockSlice | what probably happened was that someone undercut them, so they posted more, and then the other guy canceled |
| 17:01.14 | YammYgirlcoding | only the half prices would sell |
| 17:01.34 | RogueShadow | Hmm. could be. |
| 17:01.43 | RockSlice | YammYgirlcoding: I also think it's stupid, which is why undercut ignores your own auctions |
| 17:02.05 | YammYgirlcoding | unless it's a tricky thing. he put the first with very high price, and put the half price that is what the item really worth |
| 17:02.24 | Daede | ok game time |
| 17:02.27 | Daede | peace/piece |
| 17:02.28 | YammYgirlcoding | but i'd do that with two chars hehe |
| 17:02.32 | Daede | hope for both,s ettle for either |
| 17:02.37 | RockSlice | possibly, like what a lot of stores do to give you the !!50%!! OFF!!! sales |
| 17:02.46 | YammYgirlcoding | rofl |
| 17:02.53 | YammYgirlcoding | true. they are all evil hehe |
| 17:13.01 | YammYgirlcoding | back :) |
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| 17:13.29 | YammYgirlcoding | so. Where is the file that configs the scan window colors? :) |
| 17:13.42 | YammYgirlcoding | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:14.03 | Rhori | is 3.0.3 the most updated? |
| 17:14.08 | RockSlice | in Auc-Advanced/modules/Auc-Util-CompactUI |
| 17:14.13 | RockSlice | Rhori: yes |
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| 17:14.52 | Rhori | TY |
| 17:15.37 | YammYgirlcoding | anyone use dreamweaver to code lua that have the coloring tags? :) |
| 17:15.59 | RockSlice | I use Notepad++ |
| 17:16.06 | tim|imac | vim ftw |
| 17:16.21 | YammYgirlcoding | hehe |
| 17:19.47 | Kandoko | YammYgirlcoding: so. Where is the file that configs the scan window colors? I believe that's PriceLevel |
| 17:20.02 | YammYgirlcoding | i wonder too |
| 17:20.12 | YammYgirlcoding | i want to remove one column and increase the font size |
| 17:20.21 | YammYgirlcoding | and change the price colors :) |
| 17:20.23 | RockSlice | that's CompactUI |
| 17:20.31 | RockSlice | and PriceLevel |
| 17:21.03 | RockSlice | unless you're talking about the color of the text for the prices, in which just just CompactUI |
| 17:21.12 | norgjira | Bug 03CLAS-32 10Luke1410: Scan time estimate wrong since 2.306 (Reopened) http://norganna.org/CLAS-32 |
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| 17:24.12 | norgjira | Bug 03CLAS-32 10Luke1410: Scan time estimate wrong since 2.306 (Reopened) http://norganna.org/CLAS-32 |
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| 17:25.56 | Aceos | Hey, got the latest build today...Still no search feature :( But I know it's on the way. Search times REDUCED by 50% so I just wanted to say a BIG BIG GRATZ to all the Folks on the Auctioneer Team!!! |
| 17:27.27 | YammYgirlcoding | ahhh code coloring. much better =^^= |
| 17:27.38 | YammYgirlcoding | now let's see if i can change it hehe |
| 17:29.00 | YammYgirlcoding | can i config botomscan to trigger only with x % of minimun profit? |
| 17:29.25 | RockSlice | yup. look in the "resale" evaluator |
| 17:31.27 | YammYgirlcoding | err.. where? |
| 17:31.50 | RockSlice | btmscan settings. either /btm or the button in the slidebar |
| 17:33.36 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm it says 'discount %'. it's not very intuitive. it's it? |
| 17:33.53 | RockSlice | yes |
| 17:34.09 | RockSlice | what would you have it called? |
| 17:35.05 | YammYgirlcoding | i expected for something like that. 'profit margin' or something alike. discount reminds be of something for sale at the store :) |
| 17:35.25 | RockSlice | you're looking for things on sale, right? |
| 17:36.09 | YammYgirlcoding | I'm looking for profit :) would never think of using this discount option if there was another similar |
| 17:36.41 | YammYgirlcoding | i will bring you an usability directive: 'don't make me think!' |
| 17:37.25 | YammYgirlcoding | if that makes me think, it's wrong. you know. interfaces should be as direct as 1+1. if it pops question marks in the user head, it's not good enough :) |
| 17:37.34 | RockSlice | i'm afraid we're still in planning stages for the "Make Money" button |
| 17:38.01 | YammYgirlcoding | i know hehe :) just giving tips as a layout designer I am :) |
| 17:38.48 | RockSlice | If you think the label is wrong, this is an open-source project |
| 17:41.14 | YammYgirlcoding | just suggesting :) |
| 17:41.37 | RockSlice | don't you have access rights to commit changes? |
| 17:42.04 | YammYgirlcoding | i think i have :) |
| 17:42.22 | YammYgirlcoding | i'd rather discuss to see if everyone agrees :) |
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| 17:43.05 | RockSlice | perhaps start a thread in the Team category on the forums for label/helptext updates? |
| 17:43.22 | YammYgirlcoding | good idea :) |
| 17:43.59 | Frog_0034 | Hello. Is it possibele in AA to set up lots of auction to post (for example lots of diferent enchanting mats) with diferent stacks and prices... and then press a button and it will put them all? Or do i have to do it each at a time? |
| 17:44.36 | YammYgirlcoding | today i wanted that too :) |
| 17:44.37 | RockSlice | the batch post feature will be coming eventually |
| 17:44.56 | Frog_0034 | yea... i saw that button but its gray |
| 17:45.03 | Frog_0034 | but u say it will come soon? :) |
| 17:45.20 | RockSlice | currently, you don't have to wait for an item to finish posting to queue up a post for the next item |
| 17:45.35 | RockSlice | I said it will come |
| 17:45.37 | Frog_0034 | ohh... didnt know that |
| 17:45.40 | Frog_0034 | thx m8 |
| 17:45.45 | RockSlice | np |
| 17:46.25 | jona_0048 | can anybody give me some advice on the Getiteminfo command |
| 17:46.45 | hypp | yo ppl, has the "disconnect on scan" been fixed? :) |
| 17:47.12 | RockSlice | ~auctioneerbeta |
| 17:47.13 | purl | The 2.3-compatible version of Auctioneer Advanced and Auctioneer Classic (formerly known as 4.x) can be obtained from http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/#preview |
| 17:47.22 | hypp | uhh |
| 17:47.24 | RockSlice | it has |
| 17:48.07 | hypp | missed me 'broker' so much :D |
| 17:48.12 | hypp | ah classic inc |
| 17:48.46 | Frog_0034 | ok... thx for help ur addon is great :) bb! |
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| 17:51.16 | jona_0048 | can anybody tell me why when i use the GetItemInfo() it works fine till i enter the valuu 11083 for strange dust then i get a error regarding table being nil |
| 17:52.39 | RockSlice | jona: check the itemIDs against the numbers at thottbot, allakhazam, etc |
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| 17:57.32 | jona_0048 | rockslice: i just looked on both sites but not sure were the information is to be found sorry to be a pain |
| 17:57.55 | RockSlice | in the url |
| 17:58.17 | RockSlice | or it's in the auc tooltip ingame |
| 17:59.26 | jona_0048 | thanks i seen it and it the same code im using but it returns table nil error |
| 17:59.34 | jona_0048 | its doing my head in |
| 18:00.30 | jona_0048 | were does the getiteminfo look up the data is it possible i have corrupt data on my computer |
| 18:00.31 | RockSlice | you wouldn't happen to know which file GetItemInfo() is calling to, would you? (save me a search) |
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| 18:00.54 | jona_0048 | getiteminfo(11083) |
| 18:03.42 | RockSlice | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemInfo |
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| 18:05.51 | evl | any version that utilizes the new api to scan the entire ah? |
| 18:06.05 | Charismah | Greetings! I have a question when it is "my turn". My question is in regards to a price recommendation popping up when I drag an item into the auction window. It no longer does that with 2.3. Do I have a setting wrong? |
| 18:06.35 | RockSlice | evl: no, and that api has been disabled temporarily as it was activating the server's flood control systems |
| 18:07.12 | RockSlice | Charismah: if you are using AucAdvanced, please move your posting to the Appraiser tab |
| 18:08.17 | jona_0048 | thanks for the info rockslice now i need to find my local cache |
| 18:13.57 | jona_0048 | looks like some data had been corrupted i just scanned the auction for sould dust loged off logged on and hey presto solved the table nil error |
| 18:14.47 | RockSlice | woot! |
| 18:17.12 | norgjira | Bug 03UCUT-1 10bunnyfufu: error in Auc-Match-Undercut (2514)06* (Unconfirmed) http://norganna.org/UCUT-1 |
| 18:18.12 | norgjira | Bug 03UCUT-1 10bunnyfufu: error in Auc-Match-Undercut (2514)06 (Unconfirmed) http://norganna.org/UCUT-1 |
| 18:20.12 | norgjira | Bug 03BCNT-38 10tedrock: Error when posting with insufficient funds06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://norganna.org/BCNT-38 |
| 18:24.12 | norgjira | Bug 03UCUT-1 10bunnyfufu: error in Auc-Match-Undercut (2514)06 (Unconfirmed) http://norganna.org/UCUT-1 |
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| 18:35.52 | jona_0078 | hi guys just recieved this error http://norganna.pastey.net/77489 |
| 18:36.04 | jona_0078 | and no its not my code this time |
| 18:39.24 | RockSlice | refresh during a scan? |
| 18:39.46 | RockSlice | or leave AH during a scan? |
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| 18:40.22 | jona_0078 | i refreshed while using bottom scan |
| 18:40.49 | RockSlice | we know about it |
| 18:41.31 | jona_0078 | kk no probs |
| 18:43.23 | Wendelin | In AuctioneerAdvanced, will be like in the 4.x version that the durtation and the prices will be handled automically? |
| 18:44.09 | kisu | hi im interested in Helping OUT |
| 18:44.38 | kisu | Auctioneer Website said you needed all kinds of help. |
| 18:44.44 | kisu | i have a CS degree |
| 18:44.53 | RockSlice | ~auctstuff |
| 18:44.54 | purl | I know about the following topics (type one for more info): ~aucdeletesv, ~auctioneerbeta, ~auctioneersvn, ~auctfaq, ~auctinstall, ~enxstatus, ~norgjira, ~norgbug <nickname>, ~recruitingdrive, ~transferdata |
| 18:45.00 | RockSlice | ~recruitingdrive |
| 18:45.01 | purl | If you would like to apply for a position on the auctioneer team, please ensure you have read http://norganna.org/wiki/OrganizationalChart and determined that you would be good for the spot which you are applying. Then, please ensure you have an active forum account. Once that is done, join #norganna-dev and give your forum name to Esamynn, MentalPower, or norgs |
| 18:45.29 | RockSlice | Wendelin: yes, it will. In AucAdv, the tab to look for is Appraiser |
| 18:45.49 | Wendelin | RockSlice, thanks a lot. |
| 18:48.26 | kisu | Website given has no information... http://norganna.org/wiki/OrganizationalChart |
| 18:48.38 | kisu | is that a joke? |
| 18:49.00 | kisu | ensure i;ve read a blank page to see if I fit the role? |
| 18:49.08 | RockSlice | no, just a typo |
| 18:49.12 | kisu | which means you will take anyone lol |
| 18:49.13 | RockSlice | let me find the right page |
| 18:50.07 | RockSlice | http://norganna.org/wiki/Organizational_Chart |
| 18:50.40 | RockSlice | purl no, recruitingdrive is If you would like to apply for a position on the auctioneer team, please ensure you have read http://norganna.org/wiki/Organizational_Chart and determined that you would be good for the spot which you are applying. Then, please ensure you have an active forum account. Once that is done, join #norganna-dev and give your forum name to Esamynn, MentalPower, or norgs |
| 18:50.41 | purl | RockSlice: okay |
| 18:50.51 | nikeplektrum | Hm a thing I was wondering. If i buy an item that is going to give 1g profit, and then if i post it using "match competition" might it sell below the price I bought it for? |
| 18:51.12 | RockSlice | purl no, recruitingdrive is If you would like to apply for a position on the auctioneer team, please ensure you have read http://norganna.org/wiki/Organizational_Chart and determined that you would be good for the spot which you are applying. Then, please ensure you have an active forum account. Once that is done, join #norganna-dev and give your forum name to Esamynn, MentalPower, or norgs |
| 18:51.13 | purl | RockSlice: i already had it that way |
| 18:51.27 | RockSlice | ~recruitingdrive |
| 18:51.48 | RockSlice | ~recruitingdrive |
| 18:51.55 | RockSlice | ~auctstuff |
| 18:51.56 | purl | I know about the following topics (type one for more info): ~aucdeletesv, ~auctioneerbeta, ~auctioneersvn, ~auctfaq, ~auctinstall, ~enxstatus, ~norgjira, ~norgbug <nickname>, ~recruitingdrive, ~transferdata |
| 18:52.07 | RockSlice | ~recruitingdrive |
| 18:52.47 | RockSlice | purl no, recruitingdrive is <reply> If you would like to apply for a position on the auctioneer team, please ensure you have read http://norganna.org/wiki/Organizational_Chart and determined that you would be good for the spot which you are applying. Then, please ensure you have an active forum account. Once that is done, join #norganna-dev and give your forum name to Esamynn, MentalPower, or norgs |
| 18:52.48 | purl | RockSlice: okay |
| 18:52.55 | RockSlice | ~recruitingdrive |
| 18:52.56 | purl | If you would like to apply for a position on the auctioneer team, please ensure you have read http://norganna.org/wiki/Organizational_Chart and determined that you would be good for the spot which you are applying. Then, please ensure you have an active forum account. Once that is done, join #norganna-dev and give your forum name to Esamynn, MentalPower, or norgs |
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| 18:55.16 | kisu | ok thank you i will read through the org chart |
| 18:55.49 | kisu | is there an application or just my resume? |
| 18:56.18 | RockSlice | just say "hi, I want to help" |
| 18:56.18 | kisu | this is an all volunteer effort I thought |
| 18:56.20 | MentalPower | kisu: this is not a job, its a volunteer position, your work will suffice |
| 18:56.25 | kisu | ah.. ok |
| 18:56.33 | MentalPower | s/work/word/ |
| 18:56.47 | kisu | excellent |
| 18:59.20 | tim|imac | stupid question... but can someone give me the complete path to the addons directory from World of Warcraft on Windows? |
| 18:59.52 | MentalPower | WoW/Interface/AddOns/ |
| 19:00.16 | ckknight | tim|imac, c:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\ |
| 19:00.17 | tim|imac | shouldn't it start with "C:" or something? years since i last worked on windows :S |
| 19:00.22 | tim|imac | thx! |
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| 19:02.01 | MentalPower | sorry, you said "from World of Warcraft" |
| 19:02.25 | tim|imac | ah yeah, sorry, me no speak english :) meant "of Word of Warcraft" ofc |
| 19:02.31 | kisu | hi - im wondering if any members of the team live in San Francisco |
| 19:04.24 | MentalPower | kisu: its possible, but we don't have geographic locations of team members ATM |
| 19:21.10 | norgjira | Improvement 03WECN-1 10dinesh: Add config to allow selection between server and global price06* (Unconfirmed) http://norganna.org/WECN-1 |
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| 19:33.38 | Prowell | ~recruitingdrive |
| 19:33.39 | purl | If you would like to apply for a position on the auctioneer team, please ensure you have read http://norganna.org/wiki/Organizational_Chart and determined that you would be good for the spot which you are applying. Then, please ensure you have an active forum account. Once that is done, join #norganna-dev and give your forum name to Esamynn, MentalPower, or norgs |
| 19:34.55 | MentalPower | purl no, recruitingdrive is <reply>If you would like to apply for a position on the auctioneer team, please ensure you have read http://norganna.org/wiki/Organizational_Chart and determined that you would be good for the spot which you are applying. Then, please ensure you have an active forum account. Once that is done, join #norganna-dev and give your forum name to one of the ops in that... |
| 19:34.55 | purl | okay, MentalPower |
| 19:34.56 | MentalPower | ...channel. |
| 19:35.08 | many | haha |
| 19:35.11 | MentalPower | ~recruitingdrive |
| 19:35.11 | purl | If you would like to apply for a position on the auctioneer team, please ensure you have read http://norganna.org/wiki/Organizational_Chart and determined that you would be good for the spot which you are applying. Then, please ensure you have an active forum account. Once that is done, join #norganna-dev and give your forum name to one of the ops in that... |
| 19:35.23 | many | splitlong++ :) |
| 19:35.30 | MentalPower | bah... |
| 19:36.04 | RockSlice | can purl do multi-line? |
| 19:37.36 | MentalPower | purl no, recruitingdrive is <reply>If you would like to apply for a position on the auctioneer team, make sure you've read http://norganna.org/wiki/Organizational_Chart and determined that you would be good for the spot which you are applying. Then, make sure you have an active forum account. Once that is done, join #norganna-dev and give your forum name to one of the ops in that channel. |
| 19:37.37 | purl | okay, MentalPower |
| 19:37.40 | MentalPower | ~recruitingdrive |
| 19:37.41 | purl | If you would like to apply for a position on the auctioneer team, make sure you've read http://norganna.org/wiki/Organizational_Chart and determined that you would be good for the spot which you are applying. Then, make sure you have an active forum account. Once that is done, join #norganna-dev and give your forum name to one of the ops in that channel. |
| 19:37.46 | MentalPower | :) |
| 19:37.51 | MentalPower | better, no more pings |
| 19:38.34 | MentalPower | grammar needs a little work tho... |
| 19:40.02 | MentalPower | purl no, recruitingdrive is <reply>If you would like to apply for a position on the auctioneer team, please read http://norganna.org/wiki/Organizational_Chart and determine that you fit the bill for the spot for which you are applying. Then, make sure you have an active forum account. Once that is done, join #norganna-dev and give your forum name to one of the ops in that channel. |
| 19:40.03 | purl | okay, MentalPower |
| 19:40.07 | MentalPower | ~recruitingdrive |
| 19:40.08 | purl | If you would like to apply for a position on the auctioneer team, please read http://norganna.org/wiki/Organizational_Chart and determine that you fit the bill for the spot for which you are applying. Then, make sure you have an active forum account. Once that is done, join #norganna-dev and give your forum name to one of the ops in that channel. |
| 19:40.12 | MentalPower | perfect |
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| 19:50.06 | Prowell | Mental, can I assume that no one is working an item if it is unassigned on the tracker? |
| 19:50.35 | Prowell | also, how much longer are we going to support Auctioneer Classic? |
| 19:51.49 | MentalPower | Prowell: #Norganna-Dev :) |
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| 20:11.33 | SpaceDoG | I updated to 11/16 Preview release of auctioneer and my scans are going uberslow now... |
| 20:12.05 | RockSlice | that is expected. Auctioneer wasn't getting all of the data, so we had to slow down |
| 20:12.14 | RockSlice | it seems to be related to lag/serverload |
| 20:12.47 | SpaceDoG | Is it possible to cut that delay in like half? |
| 20:13.11 | RockSlice | you'd miss half the data |
| 20:13.12 | SpaceDoG | or make it a config option |
| 20:13.25 | SpaceDoG | it was actually correctly updating for me before... |
| 20:13.41 | RockSlice | we don't have a hard-coded delay, it waits until the data is there |
| 20:14.05 | RockSlice | you'll notice the speed will be different at different times of day/week |
| 20:14.17 | SpaceDoG | ... |
| 20:14.31 | SpaceDoG | It's odd because if I do a manual search for an item it loads instantly... |
| 20:14.50 | RockSlice | what version are you using? aucAdv? |
| 20:15.37 | SpaceDoG | yup |
| 20:15.46 | SpaceDoG | 5.0PRE 2505 |
| 20:17.12 | RockSlice | if you go to your settings, and switch off the progress text, you'll most likely notice that on some pages, the seller names don't appear immediately |
| 20:18.36 | SpaceDoG | if I could find it :-P |
| 20:19.02 | SpaceDoG | but I manually just searched through like 30 pages in 43 seconds and it scanned the correct amount of items... |
| 20:19.42 | SpaceDoG | well close to... |
| 20:19.46 | RockSlice | try another scan. is it fast now? |
| 20:19.54 | SpaceDoG | 20 pages in 20 seconds 863 unchanged 2 new 1 updated |
| 20:20.02 | SpaceDoG | yup |
| 20:20.05 | SpaceDoG | now it's goin fast |
| 20:20.27 | RockSlice | woohoo! I fixed it! :) |
| 20:20.31 | SpaceDoG | lol |
| 20:20.40 | SpaceDoG | and I thik it's starting to slow down :( |
| 20:20.52 | SpaceDoG | it's going up and down |
| 20:21.18 | RockSlice | the scanprogress option is in the settings (coinstack on the slidebar) - Util - ScanProgress |
| 20:24.15 | SpaceDoG | if only I could figure out how to open the settings ;-) |
| 20:24.36 | RockSlice | there's a slidebar by the minimap (hiding) |
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| 20:26.18 | Phoenix_0012 | Hello everyone |
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| 20:26.37 | RockSlice | hello |
| 20:26.42 | pneumonochrome | Hello |
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| 20:27.20 | pneumonochrome | So, I've spent a fair amount of time reading through lua files, and I think I'm just blind. Which of the auc adv files contains the code for the post-scan summary? |
| 20:27.35 | Phoenix_0012 | I saw that you are recruiting |
| 20:27.46 | RockSlice | ~recruitingdrive |
| 20:27.47 | purl | If you would like to apply for a position on the auctioneer team, please read http://norganna.org/wiki/Organizational_Chart and determine that you fit the bill for the spot for which you are applying. Then, make sure you have an active forum account. Once that is done, join #norganna-dev and give your forum name to one of the ops in that channel. |
| 20:27.47 | Phoenix_0012 | Thought I would get on here and check it out |
| 20:28.40 | SpaceDoG | lol I have too many of those Rockslice :-P |
| 20:29.01 | RockSlice | pneumonochrome: AucAdv or AucClassic? |
| 20:29.08 | pneumonochrome | AucAdv |
| 20:29.37 | RockSlice | SpaceDoG: there should be a coinpile, a shard, a pair of beans, and possibly a few others |
| 20:29.55 | SpaceDoG | got the shard |
| 20:29.56 | SpaceDoG | that's it |
| 20:30.10 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-78 10faejon: Error when scan finished - attempt to index local 'data' (a string value)06* (Unconfirmed) http://norganna.org/ADV-78 |
| 20:30.12 | SpaceDoG | but it got me to where I needed to be |
| 20:30.13 | RockSlice | pneumonochrome: look in CoreScan.lua. If it's not there, try looking in Auc-Util-Scanfinish |
| 20:30.29 | SpaceDoG | err no |
| 20:30.30 | SpaceDoG | it didn't |
| 20:30.33 | pneumonochrome | Rock: Thanks much! I'll look. |
| 20:30.36 | SpaceDoG | got me to enchantrix |
| 20:30.47 | RockSlice | SpaceDoG: click on the coins |
| 20:30.58 | RockSlice | or go to appraiser tab and click settings |
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| 20:31.52 | SpaceDoG | ok |
| 20:31.54 | SpaceDoG | there we go |
| 20:39.40 | cirdan | hmm |
| 20:39.46 | cirdan | norgs: you here? |
| 20:40.18 | cirdan | geting errors when searching the AH with yesterday's build :/ |
| 20:40.36 | cirdan | it works for a few searches |
| 20:41.52 | cirdan | tere's a stck overflow and something else |
| 20:42.28 | RockSlice | let me guess - you're running a scan (or btmscan) and either paused, did an appraiser refresh, or left the AH? |
| 20:43.07 | cirdan | left the AH maybe? |
| 20:43.20 | cirdan | im searching for different level greens to DE |
| 20:43.27 | cirdan | no scans running |
| 20:43.38 | cirdan | just open/close the AH and change the sorting |
| 20:43.52 | cirdan | totally killing the app though |
| 20:43.54 | RockSlice | can you reproduce the error? |
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| 20:44.44 | cirdan | just search for lvl 40-45 items, hit next a fwe times, change sorting method a few times |
| 20:45.18 | cirdan | what makes the Blizzard_AuctionUI directories in my addons folder? |
| 20:45.24 | Electrocuted | Wow. |
| 20:45.26 | RockSlice | WoW does |
| 20:45.35 | RockSlice | they get recreated each time, i believe |
| 20:45.58 | RockSlice | are you perhaps changing the sorting within 1 sec of changing pages? |
| 20:46.07 | cirdan | possibly |
| 20:46.07 | Electrocuted | Sure do. It's why you can backup the entire folder by renaming it. |
| 20:46.19 | cirdan | but what are they used for? |
| 20:46.29 | cirdan | dunno what a .pub is |
| 20:46.32 | RockSlice | they're the standard UI |
| 20:46.48 | RockSlice | .pub is blizzard's compression of their code |
| 20:46.51 | cirdan | oh |
| 20:47.07 | cirdan | the stack overflow came after the error, was 2 lines in libRecycle |
| 20:47.21 | RockSlice | we've been seeing that one a lot |
| 20:47.29 | cirdan | darn |
| 20:47.43 | cirdan | yeah i removed them but they came back |
| 20:49.05 | cirdan | also getting an error sometimes: EnhTooltip.AddTooltip |
| 20:49.06 | cirdan | ..\AddOns\BtmScan\EvalAppraiser.lua line 98: attempt to concatenate local 'curModel' (a nil value) |
| 20:49.34 | Electrocuted | You know, I was wondering, from a development standpoint. That new function with Blizz of pulling down the AH every 15 minutes, should you so command it, what happens if you tell Auc to scan the AH again after you've done it <15 minutes after you scanned last. Does it scan again, or just use the same data? |
| 20:50.09 | RockSlice | that functionality was disabled temporarily |
| 20:50.27 | RockSlice | the way it worked before they removed it was that it did absolutely nothing |
| 20:50.37 | RockSlice | (when within the delay) |
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| 20:53.08 | flame | hello i am a noob with limited computer knowledge can someone tell me how to install the auctioneer program, when i extract the files and then start wow it doesnt do anything. What am i doing wrong here. do i need to extract it somewhere special or something. Thanks. |
| 20:53.42 | RockSlice | ~auctinstall |
| 20:53.43 | purl | If you are having trouble installing, try reading http://norganna.org/wiki/Installing |
| 20:54.53 | flame | thanks for your help |
| 20:54.58 | RockSlice | np |
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| 20:55.34 | pneumonochrome | Okay, not being as familiar with lua as with other languages, I found the section in CoreScan.lua that has the code for printing the AA post-scan summary. For lack of the proper lingo, all the printing is done with a function, lib.print |
| 20:55.51 | pneumonochrome | lib.print is set, ad the beginning of the file, to AucAdvanced.print |
| 20:56.16 | pneumonochrome | I can't find the code for AucAdvanced.print anywhere in that file or the API file. Where might I look for that? |
| 20:56.32 | RockSlice | CoreUtil |
| 20:56.45 | Electrocuted | Whoop, I'm back. Sorry about the delay... I Saw that they were talking about removing the functionality... mine is still scanning at 1 a second however. |
| 20:57.12 | pneumonochrome | Great. Thanks. I'm trying to figure out the printing methods so that I can work over my holiday on writing code to add the print-in function to AucAdv... but I'm quite the beginner. |
| 20:57.28 | RockSlice | Electrocuted: we removed the function on our side as well |
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| 20:58.25 | Electrocuted | Maybe I'm just not being bright about the communication here. I updated, but it's still scanning at the superfast rate that it was when I presume it was in. |
| 20:58.41 | pneumonochrome | Rock: They removed the AH snapshot form WoW itself, or you just removed it from the Auc addons because it was causing disconnects? |
| 20:58.43 | SpaceDoG | is there a way to change the default enchantrix message? IE I have a mod that allows people to search my enchants via PST !enchant and would like to add that... |
| 20:58.52 | RockSlice | pneumonochrome: both |
| 20:59.08 | pneumonochrome | Wow, I didn't realize they'd removed it from WoW too. Bummer. |
| 20:59.39 | RockSlice | Electrocuted: WoW reduced the per-page delay at the same time |
| 20:59.51 | Electrocuted | Ah, Bless them. |
| 21:00.16 | RockSlice | great for us, but causing tons of problems with doing anything before all the data has been gathered |
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| 21:01.44 | pneumonochrome | Rock: Thanks for all the help! |
| 21:01.48 | RockSlice | np |
| 21:01.49 | Electrocuted | That's probably what was causing my issues this morning. I ususally run BTM, while scanning, while posting the loot from the night before. |
| 21:03.54 | Electrocuted | I also wanted to bring up a concern, that may or may not be related, but I've been making an absolute killing on bidding on things. Is that Auctioneer boning other people, or am I just lucky to be on a server with a bunch of auction00bs |
| 21:04.19 | RockSlice | you're on a server with a bunch of auction00bs |
| 21:04.27 | bleeter | indeed |
| 21:04.54 | bleeter | in which case, it may be advisable to de-guild your AH toon, as they may end up attracting a lot of /trade abuse |
| 21:04.57 | RockSlice | look at it this way: you're guaranteeing that their auction sells, so they get money |
| 21:05.18 | bleeter | depending on how you're playing the AH |
| 21:05.19 | RockSlice | my guild created a new guild for the bank toons |
| 21:07.24 | Electrocuted | I'm looking forward to getting functionality back to show me who my competition is, so I can just buy them out and be happy about it. |
| 21:08.11 | RockSlice | ahhh. the whole "take over the market" maneuver |
| 21:09.10 | Electrocuted | Well, Moreso, to get rid of those lowbie stragglers that are ruining my perfectly good first aid book selling and crashing the market. |
| 21:09.57 | Electrocuted | A little inflation is good for everyone... Not the amount on Blackhand... Where your level 12 greens go for 5 gold... |
| 21:10.34 | RockSlice | and especially good for you? |
| 21:11.06 | Electrocuted | Oh, and the last nagging question, and then I run off, Well... Last 2 nagging questions I guess. What's the difference between the resale and Appraiser evaluators... and what does that minimum discount slider actually represent? |
| 21:11.10 | Electrocuted | Yeah. Good for me. :) |
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| 21:15.03 | SpaceDoG | god I'm spoiled by UnrealIRCd |
| 21:16.37 | Electrocuted | Heh. Why do you say that? |
| 21:17.55 | SpaceDoG | Cera (n=Cera@c-71-198-143-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #norganna < you won't see that on UnrealIRCd :-P |
| 21:18.06 | SpaceDoG | well least not the user's IP |
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| 21:29.28 | Thunder_Child | so, who can tell me how to disable the extra tooltip that the auctioneer package sticks in? |
| 21:30.19 | RockSlice | disable the entire extra tooltip, or would disabling the bulk of it be ok? |
| 21:30.31 | Thunder_Child | entire would be preferable |
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| 22:06.36 | phaze112 | hi |
| 22:06.55 | phaze112 | does anyone know if its possible to post or buyout multiple auctions at once? |
| 22:08.13 | RockSlice | for posting, in AucAdvanced's Appraiser you can post multiple auctions on the same item with one click (batch posting coming later), and while that's posting, queue up other items |
| 22:14.12 | phaze112 | ok great thank you alot! |
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| 22:17.47 | YammYgirlcoding | guys. I'm looking around linen cloth. there is 250 listed, that varies from 14 to 50s. That means that it's a very bad time to sell? Or should pick an ordinary price from the middle and list anyway? |
| 22:18.47 | RockSlice | what does your data tell you is marketprice? |
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| 22:20.14 | YammYgirlcoding | honestly i don't know where to look for in in the new tooltip |
| 22:20.28 | YammYgirlcoding | it used to have 'average price' but i dont see it |
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| 22:20.37 | RockSlice | sec and I'll tell you the exact line |
| 22:20.43 | Trib | hey |
| 22:20.57 | Trib | can I ask someone a question about enchantrix here pls ? |
| 22:21.04 | YammYgirlcoding | shoot trib |
| 22:21.05 | RockSlice | you're in the right channel |
| 22:21.30 | Trib | ok.. ty.. I'm trying to use /enchantrix findmaterial command |
| 22:22.03 | Trib | but I cant give any material names.. since names are made of 2 strings instead of one that enchnatirx is getting |
| 22:22.18 | Trib | so for ex.. if I'm using /enchantrix findmaterial Arcane Dust |
| 22:22.34 | Trib | I get the error that Arcane is not a disenchantable material |
| 22:22.49 | Trib | how should I put the name of the mat ??? |
| 22:22.58 | RockSlice | try using an itemlink |
| 22:23.08 | Trib | hehe |
| 22:23.13 | Trib | let me try that |
| 22:23.57 | Trib | nope |
| 22:24.06 | Trib | it says [Arcane is not a mat... |
| 22:24.29 | Trib | you guys have any idea ? |
| 22:24.41 | RockSlice | did you type in "[Arcane Dust]" or shift-click it? |
| 22:24.53 | Trib | shift+CLICK |
| 22:25.10 | Trib | let me try type |
| 22:25.21 | RockSlice | no |
| 22:25.35 | RockSlice | try linking an DEable item |
| 22:25.35 | YammYgirlcoding | would if be 'mean price' ? |
| 22:25.37 | Trib | samething |
| 22:26.09 | Trib | no man.. it has to be a mat name there |
| 22:26.13 | Trib | not an item name |
| 22:26.18 | RockSlice | YammYgirlcoding: "Appraiser (something): xsomething: |
| 22:26.56 | RockSlice | (if you're not interested in all the other data, you can turn it off in the Stat modules sections) |
| 22:26.56 | Trib | ? |
| 22:27.05 | YammYgirlcoding | where is that? not in tooltip |
| 22:27.38 | RockSlice | go to your settings - Util - Appraiser. Is "show appraisal in tooltip" enabled? |
| 22:28.05 | Trib | for me ? |
| 22:28.08 | RockSlice | yammy |
| 22:28.18 | YammYgirlcoding | me |
| 22:28.36 | RockSlice | Trib: let me look into it a bit more. does it work with other mats? |
| 22:28.38 | YammYgirlcoding | ah that was off by default. you know what i need. a manual on apraiser :) |
| 22:29.05 | YammYgirlcoding | i dont even know what 'apraiser' means |
| 22:29.09 | RockSlice | I'm thinking we should change that default. |
| 22:29.17 | YammYgirlcoding | ya should! |
| 22:29.23 | RockSlice | Something that appraises items |
| 22:29.38 | YammYgirlcoding | but i would stil miss the word 'average' or 'medium' price in the tooltip :( |
| 22:29.39 | Trib | nope |
| 22:29.54 | Trib | I havent been able to make it work on any mat |
| 22:29.56 | YammYgirlcoding | i dont know the word 'appraise' at all |
| 22:30.39 | RockSlice | "place a value on; judge the worth of something" |
| 22:30.53 | YammYgirlcoding | aaaaah |
| 22:30.55 | RockSlice | we're here to edumacate people as well |
| 22:30.59 | YammYgirlcoding | =^^= |
| 22:31.36 | YammYgirlcoding | like 'give price to' |
| 22:31.50 | bleeter | please excuse, this may spam just a little... |
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| 22:32.25 | YammYgirlcoding | rofl *nerd* |
| 22:32.26 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.33 | YammYgirlcoding | *got it* |
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| 22:33.01 | bleeter | there aren't many words, if any, that better describe what the appraiser does |
| 22:33.38 | YammYgirlcoding | i vote for 'set the price' :) |
| 22:33.53 | RockSlice | according to moby, there aren't any other words that describe it :) |
| 22:34.10 | YammYgirlcoding | =^^= |
| 22:34.46 | YammYgirlcoding | so. back on it. 'apraise' in the tooltip is the old average price? |
| 22:35.45 | YammYgirlcoding | so what is 'mean' and 'normalized' priced? |
| 22:35.56 | Kandoko | I vote we name it Caliper. |
| 22:36.05 | Kandoko | Confussion t the masses I say!! |
| 22:36.12 | YammYgirlcoding | rofl |
| 22:36.21 | RockSlice | no. the old average price is the StdDev "mean" price. Appraiser is a better guage of the marketprice |
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| 22:37.06 | YammYgirlcoding | i want an average value based on prices since the first day the data was gathered. |
| 22:37.12 | phaze112 | hi guys :) I was able to figure out how to post multiple auctions at once, but is there a way to buyout multiple auctions at once, like select them then click buyout all or something? |
| 22:37.32 | YammYgirlcoding | phaze112 that would be nice too :) |
| 22:37.46 | Trib | sooo.. anychance to use that findmaterial command ? |
| 22:37.47 | bleeter | phaze112: not really, each individual purchase requires a hardware event |
| 22:38.12 | YammYgirlcoding | trib er... what /enchantrix help says? no examples? |
| 22:38.24 | phaze112 | ah ok |
| 22:38.26 | bleeter | YammYgirlcoding: read scrollback |
| 22:38.41 | phaze112 | well thank you, sorry for being lazy ^_^ |
| 22:39.10 | YammYgirlcoding | phaze112 dont worry. we code cause we are lazy ;) |
| 22:39.14 | bleeter | Trib: yeah, it's not working here for me. |
| 22:39.42 | bleeter | Trib: have you taken a look at our bug reports? if it's not there, would you be so kind as to file one please? |
| 22:39.46 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm ok. so 'mean' is what i want right? oky doky :) |
| 22:39.51 | RockSlice | phaze112: the API i think is available if the items are on the same page |
| 22:40.07 | RockSlice | no, you want the Appraiser(market) |
| 22:40.18 | Trib | ok.. wheres your bug reports ? |
| 22:41.10 | bleeter | it's the 'tracker' link on the auctioneer web pages, which sends you to http://jira.norganna.org/ |
| 22:41.16 | YammYgirlcoding | so RockSlice then. right. the prices vary from 14 to 50silver. there is 350 listings. and the apraise value is 29silver. What do you suggest? wait? |
| 22:41.41 | RockSlice | post at market (unclick "match competition") |
| 22:41.49 | RockSlice | probably full stacks |
| 22:42.23 | Trib | I cant login since I dont have an account :( |
| 22:42.26 | RockSlice | or just vendor, if it gets you close enough |
| 22:42.27 | YammYgirlcoding | 29s? |
| 22:42.31 | RockSlice | ~norgjira |
| 22:42.32 | purl | If you need to submit a ticket about auctioneer, head on over to http://jira.norganna.org . You need to log in to make a ticket, but you can just use your forum account. |
| 22:42.39 | Trib | I hope this will be solved sometime in th next versions..t |
| 22:42.44 | Trib | thx guys |
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| 22:42.56 | bleeter | Trib: if you don't have an account, how can we contact you to ensure that it gets fixed... |
| 22:42.59 | bleeter | when |
| 22:42.59 | bleeter | we claim |
| 22:43.00 | bleeter | ... |
| 22:43.02 | bleeter | it's |
| 22:43.05 | bleeter | oh.... nm |
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| 22:43.26 | RockSlice | &*$%$*& esc key! |
| 22:43.32 | YammYgirlcoding | hehe |
| 22:43.40 | RockSlice | WoW's corrupted me |
| 22:44.45 | YammYgirlcoding | so. as i was saying :) |
| 22:46.11 | YammYgirlcoding | should I buy all the blues and greens and relist to market price? |
| 22:46.40 | RockSlice | with linen? don't bother |
| 22:46.53 | RockSlice | if they're less then vendor, buy and vendor em |
| 22:47.38 | YammYgirlcoding | just giving a random example. I'm wondering of when is the right time to make this kind of move |
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| 22:48.25 | nikeplektrum | hm |
| 22:48.41 | nikeplektrum | soulcloth gloves jsut popped up on btmscan (32g buyout) |
| 22:48.50 | nikeplektrum | says i can make a 14g profit (42g value) |
| 22:48.56 | nikeplektrum | but there's no wai in hell that's true |
| 22:49.03 | nikeplektrum | the mats are not close to that expensive |
| 22:49.20 | nikeplektrum | ah, i counts it as 1.5 void crystals =/ |
| 22:49.23 | YammYgirlcoding | but it's based on market prices, right? |
| 22:49.41 | nikeplektrum | 100% void crystal 1.5 |
| 22:49.53 | nikeplektrum | market prices are about 20g for a void |
| 22:49.59 | RockSlice | void crystals are expensive |
| 22:50.09 | YammYgirlcoding | the thing needs 2 voids? |
| 22:50.12 | nikeplektrum | ~25g |
| 22:50.37 | RockSlice | YammYgirlcoding: DEs into VC |
| 22:50.47 | nikeplektrum | they are not that expensive |
| 22:50.54 | nikeplektrum | why does it show that value =/ crap |
| 22:51.02 | YammYgirlcoding | ah that's a pattern I don't get it also. why people insist into putting crafted for way less that the mats costed. |
| 22:52.11 | nikeplektrum | void crystals are about 13g on the AH atm |
| 22:52.22 | nikeplektrum | 1.5 would be ~20g |
| 22:52.30 | YammYgirlcoding | is there a way to search in the browse tab, by somehow clicking the item from appraise tab? |
| 22:52.31 | nikeplektrum | it says the value for the disenchant is 46 |
| 22:52.43 | nikeplektrum | and prompts me to buy it for 32 |
| 22:53.20 | YammYgirlcoding | i'd wait for some weeks after the patch for the prices get normalized. these days they are all wacky and many people don't have auctioneer yet. |
| 22:53.22 | RockSlice | YammYgirlcoding: refresh button (or you can try Alt-Rightclick - it may or may not work) |
| 22:53.39 | YammYgirlcoding | refresh doesn't find my own auctions |
| 22:54.07 | RockSlice | find the item in your bag, then alt-rightclick |
| 22:54.13 | nikeplektrum | crap crap crap, maybe i should jsut remove all the database files and reinstall everything again =/ |
| 22:54.52 | RockSlice | nikeplektrum: are you saying the enchantrix values are wrong? |
| 22:54.58 | nikeplektrum | yup |
| 22:55.00 | RockSlice | or the de tables? |
| 22:55.04 | nikeplektrum | or, when i use btmscan |
| 22:55.26 | nikeplektrum | it asks if I want to but items and it evaluates them far above market value |
| 22:55.49 | nikeplektrum | enchantrix (tooltip when i hover an item?) is ok |
| 22:56.15 | RockSlice | could you please post a topic in the support forums, including a SS of the popup, including the tooltip? |
| 22:56.23 | YammYgirlcoding | alt-right doesn't do anything |
| 22:56.32 | nikeplektrum | I'll see |
| 22:56.42 | RockSlice | YammYgirlcoding: on a bag item? |
| 22:56.49 | YammYgirlcoding | not even on the bag |
| 22:56.58 | YammYgirlcoding | it used to work before patch |
| 22:57.08 | RockSlice | AC or AucAdv? |
| 22:57.14 | YammYgirlcoding | AA |
| 22:57.26 | RockSlice | svn or build? |
| 22:57.33 | YammYgirlcoding | build |
| 22:57.50 | RockSlice | ah. right. no build since I put that in |
| 22:58.04 | YammYgirlcoding | 2505 |
| 22:58.06 | RockSlice | you'll have to input the name manually |
| 22:58.21 | YammYgirlcoding | not implemented yet? |
| 22:59.15 | CIA-MIA | norganna-libs: 03RockSlice * r40 10Configator/LibRecycle.lua: resolves bug [ADV-65]: stack overflow within recycle while pausing, leaving AH or doing an Appraiser refresh |
| 22:59.20 | YammYgirlcoding | it's also putting the name with shift-right (???) but the scan button is not auto pressed |
| 22:59.32 | RockSlice | not implemented yet, but expect a new build soon |
| 22:59.39 | YammYgirlcoding | ah right |
| 22:59.49 | nikeplektrum | here is my screenshot |
| 23:00.09 | nikeplektrum | it's the popup btmscan gave me, and the info from the item and the value of void crystals |
| 23:00.10 | nikeplektrum | http://static.pici.se/pictures/RJcwpSNRN.jpg |
| 23:00.22 | nikeplektrum | maybe i'm just stupid =/ ^^ |
| 23:01.10 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-65 10RockSlice: Stack overflow within recycle when pausing06 (Open) http://norganna.org/ADV-65 |
| 23:02.10 | norgjira | Task 03BCNT-11 10: Add in localization to the GUI06 (Need Info) http://norganna.org/BCNT-11 |
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| 23:03.11 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-65 10RockSlice: Stack overflow within recycle when pausing06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://norganna.org/ADV-65 |
| 23:03.12 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-68 10RockSlice: In Appraiser, if you refresh different items while doing a full scan it will eventually throw the following error and cancel the scan06 (Resolved/Fixed) http://norganna.org/ADV-68 |
| 23:03.46 | RockSlice | nikeplektrum: it looks like the baseline price is overwhelming your actual data |
| 23:04.12 | nikeplektrum | what exactly is baseline (know i read it somewhere before) =/ |
| 23:04.30 | RockSlice | baseline is the starting point |
| 23:04.36 | nikeplektrum | ok |
| 23:07.29 | nikeplektrum | Any idea how it's caused and how to fix it? =/ |
| 23:08.07 | RockSlice | looking at the code now |
| 23:08.16 | nikeplektrum | cool |
| 23:08.41 | YammYgirlcoding | guys. the item name in the apraiser search is redundant, no? |
| 23:09.30 | YammYgirlcoding | ever considering of removing this column from it? |
| 23:09.48 | bleeter | how is it redundant? |
| 23:10.56 | YammYgirlcoding | cause apraiser shows only the current item |
| 23:11.10 | YammYgirlcoding | by exact name search inded |
| 23:12.09 | YammYgirlcoding | and you already have the item name on top, dont need to repeat on bottom |
| 23:12.38 | YammYgirlcoding | that would save that space for some other info :) |
| 23:13.11 | norgjira | Bug 03STUB-1 10normal: When attacking a mob with a Hunter character I get a global error06 (Need Info) http://norganna.org/STUB-1 |
| 23:14.11 | norgjira | Bug 03STUB-1 10normal: When attacking a mob with a Hunter character I get a global error06 (Need Info) http://norganna.org/STUB-1 |
| 23:17.11 | norgjira | Bug 03SWAT-1 10normal: Auctioneer is not appearing in swatter output06 (Need Info) http://norganna.org/SWAT-1 |
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| 23:24.32 | Jaeneva | Sadly, Appraiser is having a fit on me now |
| 23:24.32 | Jaeneva | http://norganna.pastey.net/77512 |
| 23:25.03 | Jaeneva | That when I open it |
| 23:25.11 | norgjira | Bug 03ADV-77 10testlek: r2519 wiping out prices // appraiser tab pricing issue06 (Open) http://norganna.org/ADV-77 |
| 23:25.22 | Jaeneva | http://norganna.pastey.net/77513 |
| 23:25.32 | Jaeneva | When I try and put something in the appraiser box |
| 23:26.12 | Jaeneva | and |
| 23:26.13 | Jaeneva | http://norganna.pastey.net/77514 |
| 23:26.15 | Jaeneva | When I try and refresh |
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| 23:26.43 | Wendelin | My problem with AA is I am having a lot of items no one has posted them into the auctionhouse. I am missing the capability of AA to estimate the prices for bid and purchase. |
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| 23:27.12 | RockSlice | Wendelin: based on vendor? |
| 23:27.17 | Drae | Hey does anyone else get these errors when browsing items using auctioneer advanced? |
| 23:27.44 | Jaeneva | Anyone awake? |
| 23:27.48 | nikeplektrum | I get when I load it |
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| 23:28.01 | RockSlice | Jaeneva: please try loading with just the Auc suite loaded |
| 23:28.02 | Wendelin | RockSlice, which vendor are thinking of? |
| 23:28.14 | Drae | ? |
| 23:28.23 | RockSlice | Wendelin: the vendor prices? |
| 23:28.24 | Drae | What plugin is causing the problem? |
| 23:28.40 | RockSlice | Drae: depends what error you're getting |
| 23:28.54 | Drae | It says its a database scan error |
| 23:29.02 | Drae | Then my game gets liek 10 fps and becomes unplayable |
| 23:29.04 | Jaeneva | Urgh |
| 23:29.06 | Wendelin | RockSlice, hmmm, in that manner of speaking, yes. |
| 23:29.09 | RockSlice | ~auctbug |
| 23:29.16 | RockSlice | ~auctstuff |
| 23:29.17 | purl | I know about the following topics (type one for more info): ~aucdeletesv, ~auctioneerbeta, ~auctioneersvn, ~auctfaq, ~auctinstall, ~enxstatus, ~norgjira, ~norgbug <nickname>, ~recruitingdrive, ~transferdata |
| 23:29.28 | RockSlice | ~norgbug Drae |
| 23:29.29 | purl | Hi Drae, in order to report your bug here, simply select and copy the text in the Swatter bug details box (use "/swat show" if you've already closed it), and go to http://norganna.pastey.net ; Once you're there, paste your bug into the box, submit and paste the resultant URL into the chat. Thanks! |
| 23:29.29 | Jaeneva | You think it's a plugin Rock? |
| 23:29.55 | RockSlice | Jaeneva: it could be. It could also be corrupted Savedvariables |
| 23:29.55 | Drae | Is the actioneer classic fixed for 2.3? |
| 23:30.11 | RockSlice | Drae: read the topic, please |
| 23:30.21 | Jaeneva | let's try the savedvariables first, I just went through and updated everything (again) |
| 23:30.31 | nikeplektrum | I don't dare use auctioneer now when it scared me :D |
| 23:30.49 | Jaeneva | and got it working the way I want |
| 23:30.51 | Jaeneva | urgh |
| 23:30.53 | RockSlice | to test the sv, just rename your Savedvariables folder so you can still get it back |
| 23:31.07 | Jaeneva | the one udner WTF/Account right? |
| 23:31.10 | RockSlice | right |
| 23:31.28 | Jaeneva | but not the character ones? |
| 23:31.49 | RockSlice | not necessary |
| 23:32.20 | Jaeneva | K |
| 23:32.48 | Jaeneva | Scanning now, back in 20 |
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| 23:46.46 | Jaeneva | OK, now it's working, so corrupted data file, yay |
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| 23:47.22 | Jaeneva | well, unless it was a setting i changed |
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| 23:48.41 | RockSlice | well, now you can copy your SV folder back, and rename any files you think may be pertinent, and see if it still happens |
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| 23:55.51 | Jaeneva | i think i'll just re-do the settings, it proably got pissed from upgrade after upgrade after upgrade d-: |
| 23:56.20 | RockSlice | the SavedVariables folder also contains any back AH data you had |
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| 23:59.32 | Jaeneva | yeh, i fugured, the back data is only what? 4 days old now? |
| 23:59.57 | Jaeneva | oh, wait, no, it'd be further back than that |
| 23:59.58 | Jaeneva | bah |
