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| 01:00.21 | Mindcrime_0012 | ok as far as i can tell there may well be nothing wrong with the latest version of auctioneer, Stubby on the other hand causes a chat error whicj prevent me using any chat channels |
| 01:00.33 | Mindcrime_0012 | (i play on the euro servers) |
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| 01:07.26 | Noggin | I'm trying to use auctioneer advanced, I only want to scan weapons so i type /auc begin Weapon but it still scans everything |
| 01:08.13 | Noggin | actually i think i do /aadv to start it, as /auc still seems to scan with the older Auctioneer |
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| 01:10.38 | Dufus | I got a question and keep in mind i am computer literate but know nothing about addons. |
| 01:11.49 | Dufus | It says "Dependency Missing" when I got to enable my addon, and i don't know how to fix it. |
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| 01:13.47 | Cerebus | I have a hopefully simple Q if anyone has a sec. |
| 01:15.47 | Cerebus | Tooltips over my inventory have vanished, even before 4.0.5, and I can't get them back. |
| 01:19.30 | Noggin | Same thing happened ot me Cerebus, but I have them back now. Unfortunately, I can't tell you which mod it was i updated |
| 01:19.37 | Noggin | do you have any Ace2 mods? |
| 01:20.01 | Noggin | if so, you can try running their auto-updater, but I believe I got my tooltips back before I updated those mods |
| 01:20.14 | Cerebus | Hard to tell. Since WoW doesn't separate mods by system user, I don't know which are my addons and which are my kids. |
| 01:20.21 | Noggin | hmm |
| 01:20.31 | Noggin | I assume you have the newest auctioneers? |
| 01:20.38 | Noggin | advanced and ummm not advanced? |
| 01:20.52 | Cerebus | I've disabled everything except what I use and updated the auctioneer pack just now. |
| 01:21.01 | Cerebus | Not advanced. |
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| 01:21.25 | Noggin | well, i'm sure it wasn't the classic auctioneer that I updated that fixed it, as i only did that just now |
| 01:21.39 | Noggin | I'd suggest trying the newest advanced auctioneer |
| 01:21.54 | Cerebus | Willing to give it a shot. |
| 01:22.21 | Noggin | I'm actually having trouble using classic auctioneer with enchantrix :( |
| 01:22.35 | Cerebus | No conflicts running adv & non-adv at the same time, or should I uninstall or disable non-adv? |
| 01:22.53 | Noggin | Documentation suggests that there are no conflicts |
| 01:23.10 | Cerebus | KO. |
| 01:23.13 | Noggin | keep in mind though that they do NOT share databases, so whatever classic knows, advanced will not |
| 01:23.20 | Noggin | you won't lose the classic data though |
| 01:24.46 | Cerebus | Launching. |
| 01:25.36 | Cerebus | Nada. |
| 01:25.46 | Noggin | dang |
| 01:25.49 | Noggin | hmmm.... |
| 01:26.09 | Cerebus | Hang on. Gonna clean it out & start fresh. |
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| 01:26.33 | Maltrex | I got a question if anyone has time. |
| 01:26.35 | Noggin | oh, did you enabled the load out of data addons checkbox? |
| 01:26.44 | Noggin | ask your question, i got time. probably don't have answers though |
| 01:27.12 | Maltrex | It says "Dependency Missing" in the addons area. |
| 01:27.35 | Noggin | all i can suggest is that you download the newest versions of auctioneer. can't help you other than that |
| 01:27.39 | Noggin | im noob |
| 01:27.45 | Cerebus | Yep, that's checked. |
| 01:27.53 | Noggin | i'm outta ideas |
| 01:28.10 | Maltrex | Well i downloaded it yesterday so i assume it's the newest version. |
| 01:28.13 | Noggin | lemme look through my directory and see what other mods i got that might be it |
| 01:28.13 | Cerebus | Mal: You may have disabled EnhToolTip or Stubby accidently. |
| 01:28.34 | Maltrex | How do i re-enable it? |
| 01:29.01 | Noggin | cerebus, do you still get tooltips on equipment that you're wearing? |
| 01:29.10 | Cerebus | Find it in the list and select it again. |
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| 01:30.31 | Cerebus | Yep, tooltips are working everwhere except over my inventory. |
| 01:30.39 | Maltrex | The only thing in there is Auc-Advanced(core) |
| 01:30.48 | Noggin | k, try this... go to http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WowAceUpdater |
| 01:31.09 | Noggin | under the Download Location section there is a link that you can click to install Ace2 Mods |
| 01:31.25 | Noggin | use internet explorer (not firefox) to install it, then run it. maybe that'll fix your tooltips |
| 01:31.34 | Cerebus | Except that I'm on a Mac. |
| 01:31.37 | Cerebus | :) |
| 01:31.37 | Noggin | i THINK that after i did that, ig ot my tooltips back |
| 01:31.40 | Noggin | ooohhhh ouch |
| 01:31.43 | Noggin | ok try this |
| 01:31.46 | Cerebus | Heh heh heh. |
| 01:31.50 | Noggin | go to www.dell.com |
| 01:31.51 | Noggin | :D |
| 01:32.00 | Cerebus | Bite me. :P |
| 01:32.06 | Maltrex | lol |
| 01:32.32 | Noggin | can you run firefox on mac? |
| 01:32.39 | Cerebus | I've been meaning to write an addon manager of my own but real life keeps intervening. |
| 01:32.46 | Cerebus | Sure, but the install locations are all different. |
| 01:33.05 | Noggin | well its worth a shot, if you follow that link they have an addon for firefox |
| 01:33.12 | Noggin | ooohhhh but |
| 01:33.28 | Noggin | the updater program requires you to have .net framework installed, guessing that won't work on a mac |
| 01:33.30 | Cerebus | Their installer is a Windows app. |
| 01:33.55 | Noggin | argh my enchantrix is fubard dangit |
| 01:35.39 | Cerebus | Hmm. |
| 01:36.15 | Noggin | well, if you go to your addons menu it'll say -Ace2- after it if it is an Ace2 mod |
| 01:36.29 | Maltrex | Is Stubby and Enhtooltip supposed to be in the list of addons? |
| 01:36.33 | Noggin | let me look at the ones that i have that ARE updated and see if any of them are named such that it might be one of them |
| 01:36.43 | Noggin | i dunno maltrex :( |
| 01:36.51 | Cerebus | Mal: Yes. |
| 01:36.59 | Cerebus | Those are auctioneer's dependencies. |
| 01:37.13 | Cerebus | Make sure you have "load out of date addons" checked. |
| 01:37.24 | Cerebus | Aha! |
| 01:37.44 | Cerebus | Disabled everything *except* the auctioneer pack stuff and they's back. |
| 01:38.04 | Noggin | yeah, so its not auctioneer thats killign it |
| 01:38.15 | Noggin | unless its a conflict |
| 01:38.20 | Cerebus | Now to add 'em back until it dies again. |
| 01:39.29 | Cerebus | Aha! said the blind man. |
| 01:39.36 | Cerebus | ItemRack. |
| 01:39.45 | Noggin | lemme see if i got that one |
| 01:39.53 | Cerebus | Got disabled. Is now re-enabled--but I didn't do it. |
| 01:40.13 | Noggin | i don't even have that mod |
| 01:40.15 | Maltrex | Is the Stubby and Enhtooltip folders supposed to be in the addons folder or the Auctioneer folder that's inside the addons folder? |
| 01:40.35 | Noggin | addons |
| 01:40.38 | Cerebus | AddOns. |
| 01:41.51 | Cerebus | Well, that wasn't it. |
| 01:42.35 | Maltrex | If i have both stubby and enhtooltip in the addon's folder then why won't it show up in the addons list? |
| 01:42.50 | Noggin | dunno, mine show up in there |
| 01:42.56 | Maltrex | hmmmm. |
| 01:43.06 | Noggin | you're not looking for Auctioneer: Stubby are you? |
| 01:43.10 | Cerebus | It should. |
| 01:43.26 | Noggin | stubby and enhtooltip show up in the S's and E's |
| 01:44.07 | Cerebus | Anything in those directories? |
| 01:44.15 | Cerebus | Aha! |
| 01:44.19 | Cerebus | MonkeyBuddy. |
| 01:44.31 | Cerebus | Guess I need to update MonkeyBuddy. |
| 01:45.49 | Maltrex | Alright, I think i might have got it now. |
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| 01:47.37 | Maltrex | Yeah, it's working now thanks for the help. |
| 01:49.25 | Cerebus | BooYah. |
| 01:49.42 | Cerebus | MonkeyQuest 2.5.3 -- Fix tooltip bug. |
| 01:50.48 | Cerebus | KO, I'm out. Thanks for the help. |
| 01:51.41 | aestil | ~seen ellipsis |
| 01:51.43 | purl | ellipsis is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 839 messages. Is idling for 2m 29s, last said: 'if that doesn't work, try rescanning cooldowns'. |
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| 03:00.38 | Lomah | hi |
| 03:00.57 | Lomah | what hapen with enchantrix and autioner? |
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| 03:08.35 | itafroma | hey, just downloaded and installed Auctioneer Advanced, and WoW is crashing when clicking on Enchantrix. Funny thing is that it happens on my 70 warlock, but if I create a new character, it works fine. Deleting the WTF folder doesn't have any effect. Does anyone know what's going on? |
| 03:09.40 | itafroma | I noticed this forum topic describing the same issue, but nobody responded to him: http://norganna.org/discuss/discussion/4714/auctioneeradvanced-crash-when-opening-enchantrix/#Item_0 |
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| 03:47.09 | dinesh-work | i'm not exactly sure what is up with enchantrix. norgs has been futzing with the versions available, but i'm not sure we have it straight yet |
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| 03:54.52 | ScooTR | is the price check suppose to be working ok? |
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| 04:00.35 | FlAWD | don't mind me just spamming if anyone cares :) |
| 04:07.03 | ScooTR | my ask price is broken |
| 04:07.24 | ScooTR | gives me an error when someone asks for price with an epic |
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| 04:29.57 | mattbnr | ok i see one guy in the forums is posting alot of errors hes getting but i see that hes running 4.05 and 5.0 side by side would that cause the errors hes getting? |
| 04:30.42 | mattbnr | i was under the impression that you had to install 5.0 last that way you were running all the current files for enchantrix,btm,etc. etc. |
| 04:33.43 | Speeddymon | mattbnr: you are supposed to, however you can do it any way you want, but you gotta expect errors |
| 04:33.51 | dinesh | matt: no. you can run 5 and 4 side by side |
| 04:34.03 | dinesh | oh, sorry, i misread |
| 04:34.22 | dinesh | yes, you need to install 4, then 5, to ensure you have the right versions fo BTM, enhTT, and stubby |
| 04:34.35 | Speeddymon | dinesh: is there a way to get the forums to send you an email when there is a reply in a thread you posted in? |
| 04:34.38 | mattbnr | ok good i just posted that in the forums i wanted to make sure that i was correct |
| 04:34.52 | dinesh | Speeddymon: i think there is. you subscribe to the thread or some such |
| 04:35.24 | Speeddymon | you can also do 5, then 4.0.5, then 5 again (ex: if you had 4.0.4 and 5 installed, and need to update to 4.0.5, that is how you do it) |
| 04:35.45 | dinesh | though i don't see that option any more, maybe we removed it |
| 04:36.01 | mattbnr | ok glad i didnt post wrong info i ahte doing that i try to stay up to date on stuff so i can hep out in the forums so you guys can continue with the coding |
| 04:36.12 | dinesh | we appreciate it matt |
| 04:36.28 | dinesh | just make sure you really know the answer when you post something, otherwise it can cause more confusion, rather than help |
| 04:36.38 | Speeddymon | hehe im not a norg dev either, but i do post on wowace |
| 04:36.39 | mattbnr | i liek helping i use this stuff to we shouldnt rely on 4 or 5 guys to answer all of our questions |
| 04:36.45 | ScooTR | why is the price check bugged? |
| 04:37.00 | dinesh | dunno ScooTR . why? |
| 04:37.13 | ScooTR | when people whisper me it gives me an error |
| 04:37.20 | mattbnr | yes i normally try to make sure i have the right answer before i post a response i know how people get if the wrong info is posted lol |
| 04:38.01 | mattbnr | normally if i dont know the answer i will not respond to the question |
| 04:38.07 | Speeddymon | hehe same |
| 04:38.21 | mattbnr | is wow back up i got aq world server down last time i tried to log in |
| 04:38.21 | Speeddymon | ScooTR: i'm not encountering that problem.. are you running 4 and 5? |
| 04:38.41 | Speeddymon | its been running fine for me.. may have been a temporary problem |
| 04:38.45 | Speeddymon | but im not on aq.. |
| 04:38.47 | mattbnr | ah ok |
| 04:39.03 | dinesh | ScooTR: please copy the full error message and paste it into pastey (link in the topic), then give us the link here |
| 04:39.07 | dinesh | or post it on the forums |
| 04:39.14 | ScooTR | http://norganna.pastey.net/74470 |
| 04:40.05 | dinesh | hmm, both look like bugs we'll have to look into |
| 04:40.16 | dinesh | thanks for the report |
| 04:40.22 | ScooTR | just checked the line and it seems when the item has not been found in AH it will error |
| 04:40.40 | dinesh | ayup |
| 04:40.54 | dinesh | probably a simple fix, but it's just added to the pile for the time being |
| 04:41.01 | MentalPower | ScooTR: I'll look into it, thanks |
| 04:41.15 | ScooTR | np |
| 04:41.37 | mattbnr | Date: 2007-09-26 23:40:52 |
| 04:41.42 | mattbnr | woops god damn |
| 04:41.48 | Speeddymon | hmm.. for some reason i have 2 slide bars.. 1 of the old nsidebar that just has gatherer in it, and 1 of the new slidebar that has the auc5 stuff in it |
| 04:42.02 | dinesh | you probably didn't delete nSideBar |
| 04:42.21 | Speeddymon | the external or the embed? i removed the external |
| 04:42.41 | Speeddymon | checking.. |
| 04:42.58 | mattbnr | i think my error is related to easymail |
| 04:43.07 | Speeddymon | what was ur error? |
| 04:43.21 | Speeddymon | im using easymail with no problems |
| 04:43.28 | mattbnr | that big ass thing i posted avbove |
| 04:43.40 | Speeddymon | all i got was the first line |
| 04:43.44 | mattbnr | i just posted in the forums as well |
| 04:44.17 | mattbnr | i acidently posted it in here lol |
| 04:44.27 | Speeddymon | dinesh: ya i forgot to remove the embedded nSideBar from gatherer |
| 04:45.48 | mattbnr | do 4.05 auctioneer and aadv use different algorithums to calculate the prices of items for resell? |
| 04:46.14 | Speeddymon | mattbnr: that is a bug between EnhTooltip and Ace2.. the ace guys know about it but there isnt a fix right now.. It's got something to do with the way that the 2 addons hook the mailbox tooltip, however the only functionality that is lost is the ability to see the stats of the item when looking at the list of mails in your inbox |
| 04:46.26 | Speeddymon | mattbnr: yes |
| 04:46.53 | mattbnr | ok umm what one is more accurate? l liek accuracy in my prices |
| 04:47.09 | mattbnr | ok ill go delte my post |
| 04:47.12 | mattbnr | delete** |
| 04:47.16 | dinesh | neither is more accurate per se, they track different things |
| 04:47.30 | dinesh | we are certainly trying to make auc5 be as useful as possible, but it is a work in progress |
| 04:47.53 | Speeddymon | id say if you are going for undercutting the market, stick with auc 4, if you just want to know the market price and then determine the undercut youself, go with auc5.. |
| 04:48.14 | Speeddymon | but ya dinesh is right on the spot |
| 04:48.43 | mattbnr | hmm im kinda lazy but i liek the layout of aadv im getting used to it and sicne i only resell DE items price dont really matter to me cause i can repost them for free if they dont sell |
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| 04:49.53 | Speeddymon | i'd go with 5 then. it posts items at the current market price |
| 04:50.24 | mattbnr | man i cant post all of this guys error he posted in the forums something in Message: ..\AddOns\auc-advanced\CoreScan.lua line 709: |
| 04:50.34 | mattbnr | attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'scanStarted' (a nil value) |
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| 04:50.45 | mattbnr | [C]: ? |
| 04:50.54 | mattbnr | auc-advanced\CoreScan.lua:709: StorePage() |
| 04:51.02 | mattbnr | auc-advanced\CoreScan.lua:923: |
| 04:51.09 | Speeddymon | the only problem with 5 that I can see is that if an item is listed at one time, and then later you scan and there are none of that item in the AH, that item gets removed from the DB.. so forexample: |
| 04:51.09 | mattbnr | auc-advanced\CoreScan.lua:894 |
| 04:51.20 | Speeddymon | matt: dont paste that here dude |
| 04:51.33 | mattbnr | i think his error has to be a conflict with one of his other addosn but what one i have no clue |
| 04:51.37 | mattbnr | lol ok |
| 04:51.39 | mattbnr | sorry |
| 04:51.39 | MentalPower | mattbnr: thats what pastey is for |
| 04:51.41 | Speeddymon | you scan right now and theres 3 Small Pris Shards |
| 04:52.27 | Speeddymon | you scan 8 hrs from now, and there are none, and you DE something 8 hrs from now thinking ok well Ill sell it at the market price.. Auc5 won't have a market price to sell it at, and so you will have to come up with your own.. |
| 04:52.27 | mattbnr | pastey? whats pastey? |
| 04:52.40 | Speeddymon | http://norganna.pastey.net |
| 04:52.53 | Speeddymon | its where you paste ANYTHING that you want to paste here.. |
| 04:53.03 | Speeddymon | then you copy the link that it gives you, and paste THAT here |
| 04:53.17 | mattbnr | oh never new about it I LEARNED SMETHING TODAY YESS |
| 04:53.25 | mattbnr | i havent wasted my day lol |
| 04:53.30 | Speeddymon | did you see what i said about the market pricing in auc5? |
| 04:53.34 | Speeddymon | matt |
| 04:53.34 | mattbnr | yes |
| 04:53.36 | Speeddymon | kk |
| 04:53.55 | Speeddymon | dinesh: feature request |
| 04:54.17 | Speeddymon | make the market price module store the market price for like 5 days before removing an item from the DB |
| 04:54.34 | Speeddymon | or even 1 day after there are no more of that item listed.. |
| 04:55.28 | mattbnr | i have a post in the forums if im crusing the ah posting items and what not i see the littel blue message it says XXXX items in db liek 4873 i knwo there is more then that why is the number so low? |
| 04:55.29 | dinesh | Speeddymon: it should be storing it well beyond that, i think there is still a bug in our scanning code |
| 04:55.36 | dinesh | but norgs was looking into it last i knew |
| 04:55.48 | dinesh | he's really driving much of the dev effort now. |
| 04:55.58 | dinesh | not to short anyone else's contribs |
| 04:56.08 | mattbnr | oh so it removes items from the db after a set amount of time? |
| 04:56.13 | dinesh | no |
| 04:56.28 | dinesh | there are two things: a snapshot, which stores just the auctions that are available right now |
| 04:56.46 | dinesh | 24 hours from now they will automatically disappear |
| 04:56.58 | mattbnr | ok like a camera picture freeze frame oh ok |
| 04:57.03 | dinesh | or if you scan for that item, and they aren't there, we disappear them too (and add new ones that appear) |
| 04:57.12 | mattbnr | oh ok |
| 04:57.31 | dinesh | then there is the stats like market price, which figures out 3, 7, and 14 day moving averages, iirc |
| 04:57.49 | mattbnr | i see would that be why if i hit the refresh button when im posting a item liek 2-3 times the auctions change after about the 2nd time liek as in removing them ? |
| 04:58.03 | mattbnr | ok i got it now |
| 04:58.10 | dinesh | because i think there is a bug with our scanning code |
| 04:58.14 | mattbnr | ah i see |
| 04:58.33 | mattbnr | it does update the page but i have to hit it liek 2-3 times before it does it |
| 04:58.35 | Speeddymon | i was referring to the snapshot.. i'd prefer if the snapshot always stores the item for 24 hours, even if the item isnt in the ah on the next scan |
| 04:58.50 | mattbnr | yeah |
| 04:58.54 | dinesh | though norgs seems to believe there isn't one, i too have seen issues when i do a full scan, then do an item search later on and it says there are only half as many auctions as there should be |
| 04:59.22 | Speeddymon | well my issue is just that i do a scan once in the morning and once at night.. |
| 04:59.47 | dinesh | Speeddymon: no can do. the snapshot is used for all sorts of things (deciding what you can bid on, displaying the numbers in the appraisal tab, etc.), and has to reflect what we know is currently available. |
| 05:00.18 | mattbnr | i too do a sacn in the morning and one at night unless its my day off |
| 05:00.20 | Speeddymon | ill see an item (small pris shard in my case) in the night scan, then someone buys it, and it isnt there in the morning one.. so if I go to post a small pris shard with the market price, i get told that there is no market price.. |
| 05:00.23 | dinesh | what is the issue? |
| 05:00.33 | dinesh | again: scanning bug |
| 05:00.39 | Speeddymon | hmm |
| 05:00.46 | dinesh | the market price should exist, regardless |
| 05:00.57 | dinesh | the snapshot is not (directly) used to create the market price |
| 05:01.05 | Speeddymon | oh i see |
| 05:01.11 | dinesh | the market price is based on historical data |
| 05:01.13 | dinesh | i think |
| 05:01.32 | dinesh | you probably shouldn't listen to me about this, i haven't exactly looked at all the stats code. :) |
| 05:01.42 | dinesh | seriously. take what i'm saying with a grain of salt. |
| 05:01.44 | mattbnr | im on every day so i have a db of prob every item so i dont get the market value problem liek that usually only if i havent posted the item before i will or if i havent scanned for a couple days |
| 05:02.21 | Speeddymon | so then the market price db should store the item for 24 hrs even if that item is not at all on the ah the next time a scan is done, but due to scanning bug, it gets removed from the db prematurely.. |
| 05:02.27 | Speeddymon | is that correct? |
| 05:02.50 | Speeddymon | or something along those lines at least as far as you know |
| 05:03.15 | mattbnr | thats how i read it |
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| 05:03.43 | Me | hello everyone |
| 05:04.00 | mattbnr | i must say i have not had any luck trying to resell a item for a profit other then encahnting stuff |
| 05:04.07 | mattbnr | hey me hows it going |
| 05:04.18 | Me | good good, jsut got done raiding some kara |
| 05:04.47 | mattbnr | liek btm will pop up with a item for resell saying ill make X amount of prifit ill go get the item and try to resell it and there will be a lower one posted |
| 05:05.01 | Me | hey mental, ya there? |
| 05:05.41 | Speeddymon | mattbnr: yeh i think that is the most popular way.. i have had moderate luck, but it really all depends on your server and the economy of your faction |
| 05:06.23 | Speeddymon | mattbnr: that is due to your server having a busy ah |
| 05:06.58 | mattbnr | could be i just hate theat cause then i have to post it and take a loss on it |
| 05:06.59 | Me | what server are you on mat? |
| 05:07.08 | mattbnr | peronolde |
| 05:07.10 | Speeddymon | i bought a warden staff (lvl 46 epic staff) for 50g, auc4 said i could resell it for 150. I posted it for 110 and it sold about 6 hrs later |
| 05:07.30 | Speeddymon | mattbnr: patience is a virtue |
| 05:07.47 | Me | i ahte this new thing where we have to wait an hour to recieve our auction gold |
| 05:08.13 | Speeddymon | lol one of my roommates already has a problem with it.. |
| 05:08.47 | Speeddymon | he has a mail sitting in his box saying money would be there shortly, and its been saying that since the servers came back up yesterday afternoon |
| 05:08.56 | dinesh | Speeddymon: if i am right, market price has nothing to do with what is on the market right now. forget all about 24 hours. it is a measure of the mean price the item was listed for over some number of days. but again, it's possible i am wrong, so take it with a grain of salt. |
| 05:09.17 | dinesh | i think i bookmarked a thread which explained the pricing models, let me see if i can find it |
| 05:09.57 | dinesh | http://norganna.org/discuss/discussion/4599/auctioneer-advanced-priceing-model-explantion/ |
| 05:10.02 | Speeddymon | ill take a look |
| 05:10.08 | dinesh | market price is an average of all the stats module prices |
| 05:10.16 | dinesh | simple is a 3 day EVA |
| 05:11.37 | MentalPower | Me: Can you change your nick to something else? |
| 05:11.52 | mattbnr | lol i think you asked him that yesterday too |
| 05:11.59 | ScooTR | MentalPower did u find out what was wrong with the askprice? |
| 05:12.15 | MentalPower | ScooTR: yup |
| 05:12.20 | MentalPower | testing out the fix ATM |
| 05:12.32 | ScooTR | MentalPower ahh k sweet |
| 05:12.53 | Speeddymon | that was what i was looking for to answer the question i had posted in the forum 2 days ago dinesh.. thx |
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| 05:13.11 | dinesh | feel free to add it to the wiki for me. :) |
| 05:13.12 | Danny_0032 | ok this is "me" |
| 05:13.23 | Speeddymon | hehe ok |
| 05:13.35 | MentalPower | cool! |
| 05:13.45 | Danny_0032 | lol what was wrong with me? |
| 05:13.59 | MentalPower | it confuses purl |
| 05:14.06 | MentalPower | see, now I can do this: |
| 05:14.11 | MentalPower | ~lart Danny_0032 |
| 05:14.11 | purl | squishes Danny_0032 like a bug |
| 05:14.17 | Danny_0032 | lol |
| 05:14.29 | MentalPower | whereas previously if I tried it was like: |
| 05:14.32 | MentalPower | ~lart me |
| 05:14.32 | purl | eats mentalpower's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti |
| 05:14.41 | MentalPower | ~botsnack |
| 05:14.41 | purl | thanks, MentalPower |
| 05:15.02 | Kandoko | Evening everyone |
| 05:15.03 | Danny_0032 | ~lart MentalPower |
| 05:15.03 | purl | calls MentalPower on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home |
| 05:15.16 | Danny_0032 | mine dont work lol |
| 05:16.18 | Kandoko | The askprice will error on a nil value when item hasnt been seen. I belive I have it fixed in swarm |
| 05:16.18 | Danny_0032 | mental you wanna pop on vent to talk about yesterdays stuff? |
| 05:17.03 | ScooTR | Kandoko: I think MentalPower fixed it and is testing it ouit atm |
| 05:17.25 | Kandoko | kk. |
| 05:18.03 | Speeddymon | dinesh: done |
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| 05:18.15 | dinesh | thanks! |
| 05:23.13 | Danny_0032 | ? |
| 05:24.43 | mattbnr | ok can someone explain to em what exactly he minimum discount sliders are for? |
| 05:24.57 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: 03mentalpower * r2257 10Auc-Util-AskPrice/AskPrice.lua: |
| 05:24.57 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: AskPrice will no longer error out when it is asked information about items |
| 05:24.57 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: AucAdvanced has never seen. Also made the configuration options in Configator a |
| 05:24.58 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: bit clearer. Additionally removed unneeded semicolons from the entire file. |
| 05:25.02 | MentalPower | ScooTR: ^^^^ |
| 05:25.19 | ScooTR | MentalPower, ahh ty u rule! |
| 05:25.45 | MentalPower | hehe, thanks |
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| 05:27.13 | Kandoko | Mental, I believe swarm is ready for testing. Just finished testing the party/raid/whisper handling when client is non-announcer. |
| 05:27.32 | CrysDark | is enchantrix standalone still broken? |
| 05:28.08 | Speeddymon | does the StdDev module workonly with the current day's data, or with all data, like the simple module does? |
| 05:28.11 | Kandoko | not sure how to upload thou |
| 05:28.25 | MentalPower | Kandoko: you really should register yourself with nickserv "/msg nickserv register <somePassword>" |
| 05:29.31 | Kandoko | done, I think |
| 05:34.37 | mattbnr | anyone? the minimum discount sliders how do they effect buying and reselling of items |
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| 05:36.45 | MentalPower | that, was wierd... |
| 05:37.35 | *** mode/#norganna [+o Kandoko] by ChanServ |
| 05:41.09 | mattbnr | mental how do the minimum discount sliders effect buying and reselling of items |
| 05:41.41 | mattbnr | i see there is one on resell and enchantrix or btm ( cant remember now) how do they effect prices if at all |
| 05:43.31 | MentalPower | to be honest I don't know, I haven't studied that section of code yet |
| 05:43.38 | MentalPower | perhaps dinesh can answer better |
| 05:43.53 | Speeddymon | dinesh: tell me what you think: http://norganna.org/wiki/Auctioneer/5.0/GUI |
| 05:44.05 | mattbnr | ok dinesh? you there buddy? |
| 05:44.38 | dinesh | mattbnr: for the love of god, please chill out |
| 05:44.39 | Speeddymon | mattbnr: where at in the config are they? |
| 05:45.20 | mattbnr | um there on the resell the vendor and the disenchant pages |
| 05:45.38 | mattbnr | and dinesh ok sorry im getting tired again i need to learn to sleep more |
| 05:45.41 | LeetScooTR | MentalPower: askprice works great, thanks once again |
| 05:45.55 | dinesh | i haven't looked at the code either. which setting are you refering to |
| 05:46.08 | Speeddymon | mattbnr: gimme a min and ill try to explain |
| 05:46.35 | dinesh | Speeddymon: thanks. it's a start, certainly |
| 05:46.42 | mattbnr | speedy is gonan explain to me |
| 05:47.03 | Speeddymon | dinesh: cool. Ive linked to it from the main auc5 page |
| 05:47.18 | mattbnr | thats great man i love it it explains what the models do |
| 05:47.32 | Speeddymon | i said im gonna try.. i gotta get to an ah first tho lol |
| 05:47.46 | dinesh | mattbnr: okey doke. good luck! |
| 05:47.52 | dinesh | now it is time for me to crash |
| 05:48.58 | mattbnr | lol ok im in no rush |
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| 05:51.20 | Speeddymon | ok the minimum discount slider on the resale page basically means that "if i see an item that is listed for x% or more below the market price, prompt the user to snatch it" |
| 05:52.05 | Speeddymon | and for the disenchant it means "if i see an item that is listed for x% below the market price of what it becomes when you disenchant it, prompt the user to snatch it" |
| 05:52.25 | mattbnr | ok i have all mine set to 1% is that good? that shoud snatch me all the stuff i can make moeny on right? |
| 05:52.25 | Speeddymon | im gonna go grab my macaroni.. brb |
| 05:52.46 | Speeddymon | lol you want to set it for like at the bare minimum around 10-15% |
| 05:52.54 | mattbnr | mmm macaroni sounds really good |
| 05:52.59 | Speeddymon | I have mine at 30% for resale, and 45% for disenchant |
| 05:53.06 | mattbnr | really? |
| 05:53.18 | Speeddymon | let me clarify |
| 05:53.19 | mattbnr | umm do i dare ask why is that? |
| 05:53.53 | mattbnr | ive been up for around 18 hours im kinda foggy right now |
| 05:54.01 | Speeddymon | if an item is x% OR MORE below the market, it will prompt you.. so you dont want to get prompted for an item that is only 1% below market |
| 05:54.05 | mattbnr | with about 5 hours of sleep |
| 05:54.22 | mattbnr | oh ok i was thinking about it wrong lol |
| 05:54.23 | Speeddymon | 1% below market on a 50g item is only valued at 49g50s |
| 05:54.37 | Speeddymon | hehe |
| 05:54.38 | mattbnr | ok i see i was thinking about it backwards |
| 05:54.49 | Speeddymon | i figured as much |
| 05:55.03 | mattbnr | ok cool so about 30% on all woudl be good? |
| 05:55.08 | Speeddymon | at least with 10% you would make 5g on something valued at 50g.. |
| 05:55.09 | mattbnr | ill start here see what that gets me |
| 05:55.15 | mattbnr | oh sweet |
| 05:55.19 | mattbnr | ill go there lol |
| 05:55.38 | Speeddymon | just make sure to check the options for factoring the ah fees and the ah cut as well |
| 05:55.42 | Speeddymon | and avg relistings |
| 05:55.47 | Speeddymon | brb for real this time heh |
| 05:56.18 | LeetScooTR | if i just scanned AH and there is an item in there and i do ask price for it and it says its never been seen, whats going on there? |
| 05:57.19 | Speeddymon | LeetScooTR: may be because of the options for not giving you a resale price until an item has been seen x number of times.. |
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| 05:57.46 | Speeddymon | i didnt look at the most recent commit mind you, which is why i said maybe |
| 05:58.13 | mattbnr | ok i set disenchant and vendoe and resell to 11% see how that does me |
| 05:58.18 | Speeddymon | kk |
| 05:58.24 | LeetScooTR | it only says "Item has not been seen" on non stackable items |
| 05:59.02 | Speeddymon | seriously though, i would do disenchant a little higher, since DE mats usually dont got for more than like 10g ea anyways |
| 05:59.22 | mattbnr | ok so how high 20 30%? |
| 05:59.39 | mattbnr | you said 35% earlier i coudl try that |
| 05:59.46 | Speeddymon | well.. 10% of 10g is 1g.. i would do at least do 25% |
| 06:00.29 | Speeddymon | that way you only get items that are listed for 25% less than the DE'd mats |
| 06:00.34 | mattbnr | ok now i have my min proft set to 1c as i dont really care how much i make jsut as long as i am makeing some money off the item |
| 06:00.41 | Speeddymon | yea same here |
| 06:00.50 | mattbnr | ok |
| 06:00.51 | Speeddymon | especially for the vendor stuff |
| 06:00.54 | mattbnr | yeah |
| 06:01.02 | Speeddymon | that reminds me |
| 06:01.22 | Speeddymon | i bought a green about a month ago for like 4g and it vendored for 6 |
| 06:01.32 | Danny_0073 | wow things must be cheap on ur server |
| 06:01.43 | mattbnr | no people are jst dumb lol |
| 06:01.49 | Danny_0073 | how much does a stack of adamantite sell for on ur server (ore) |
| 06:01.51 | Speeddymon | no, it was some crap green that someone just didnt want |
| 06:01.56 | mattbnr | they dont check the vendor value before they post the item |
| 06:01.57 | Speeddymon | lemme check |
| 06:02.30 | mattbnr | ok now on the reell tab i see a thing called average relisting WTF is that |
| 06:02.34 | mattbnr | resell* |
| 06:02.56 | Speeddymon | 20g a stack is the market |
| 06:03.30 | Danny_0073 | yea my server its like 30g a stack, largs prismatics are going for about 30g each, everything is over priced on ours |
| 06:03.41 | Speeddymon | mattbnr: basically that tells auctioneer to factor in how many times (on average) you will need to relist an item and take the deposit out that many times |
| 06:03.56 | mattbnr | 27g on my server |
| 06:04.07 | mattbnr | oh i see ok thanks |
| 06:04.11 | Speeddymon | Danny_0073: trust me, most of the gear is overpriced on my server.. |
| 06:04.36 | Danny_0073 | lol |
| 06:04.40 | Speeddymon | mats are usually cheap, but gear is expensive, and recipes/plans/designs/etc |
| 06:05.04 | Danny_0073 | for us is even mats, and gear are over priced |
| 06:05.22 | Speeddymon | what server and faction? |
| 06:05.48 | mattbnr | i really liek the help pages on encahntrix i think they all need that little help symbol on them it saves alot fo questions |
| 06:06.08 | Speeddymon | yea, i think they are slowly implementing it |
| 06:06.14 | mattbnr | core options i menat lol |
| 06:06.19 | mattbnr | meant** |
| 06:06.27 | Speeddymon | i knew what you meant |
| 06:06.29 | mattbnr | lol ok |
| 06:07.07 | mattbnr | ok off the wall question what woudl happen if i set my minimum discount to 100%i suppose i wouldnt find hardly any item sright? |
| 06:08.35 | LeetScooTR | on the ask price it doesent work in guild chat if the person has incegnito addon |
| 06:12.29 | Speeddymon | mattbnr: correct |
| 06:12.42 | mattbnr | ok im getting it figured out slowly |
| 06:12.58 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: 03kandoko * r2258 10Auc-Util-AskPrice/AskPrice.lua: |
| 06:12.58 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: Askprice now defaults to ON. |
| 06:12.58 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: Askprice will now choose once member of the guild to be the "Announcer" choosen alphabetically. So no more worry of multi answer spam. This is silently done through the AddonChannel |
| 06:12.58 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: All responses are handled by the Announcer regardless of which askprice client is asked in whisper/party/raid/guild. |
| 06:13.00 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: Two new GUI options under Swarm: one shows/hides the login/online spam as clients choose announcer. Other shows/hides AddonChannel "debug" messages. |
| 06:13.06 | mattbnr | pretty much the highest you can go is 50% that woudl be a 100% profit |
| 06:13.15 | Speeddymon | basically, its going to look for anything that is 100% less than the market price.. which means its listed for 1c or less |
| 06:13.31 | mattbnr | lol |
| 06:13.40 | Speeddymon | Kandoko: nice i like that |
| 06:14.59 | bleeter | LeetScooTR: from what I'm seeing, incognito mod is quite out of date, I suspect the problem would be in the incognito code. |
| 06:16.17 | LeetScooTR | bleeter the only problem with incognito is it puts (name): next to theirs and the askprice trys to send tell to that name instead of the real one |
| 06:16.38 | LeetScooTR | so when guildie ex: [Name] |
| 06:16.58 | LeetScooTR | incognito puts [Name]:(Nick): next to their name |
| 06:17.18 | LeetScooTR | its used for alts and many people use it at least in my guild |
| 06:18.07 | LeetScooTR | im guessing the way askprice works is it takes the name before the : to whisper |
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| 06:18.24 | Kandoko | Ahh forgot we Askprice clients now all share there data on a question and give a Average price count of all data with a weighted average for # of times seen |
| 06:18.37 | Kandoko | Now im off to sleepy :P |
| 06:18.47 | LeetScooTR | wow Kandoko |
| 06:19.02 | LeetScooTR | i was gonna say what if some people dont scan once in month and they get chosen |
| 06:19.35 | bleeter | LeetScooTR: you may wish to make a forum post requesting support for an out of date, no longer developed mod. if you explain it in enough generics, something might happen. |
| 06:20.28 | Kandoko | I expect bugs, hopefully none too bad. Will see in morniing. Please slam the mod to try and break it |
| 06:22.27 | bleeter | LeetScooTR: tho, if the behaviour is different to askprice in 4.0.x, your chacnes of getting a workaround included would increase. don't forget to mention this, if it used to work. |
| 06:22.49 | bleeter | gnight Kandoko |
| 06:24.39 | mattbnr | where exactly does btm get the info for the vendor module cause i have bought a couple of items for the vendor and when i get therer they dont resell for what it sas they do |
| 06:25.41 | mattbnr | says* |
| 06:27.28 | bleeter | btmprices.lua |
| 06:29.14 | mattbnr | so if i go to the vendor does that get updated or is a manually enter kinda thing |
| 06:33.01 | bleeter | we run a mod called wowwatcher, which collects that data, we upload that data, and then it prepares those files for us. if you can confirm the itemid isn't in that list, and can find it on, say, armory or wowhead, we can look into it. we need to do a bit of work on watcher atm. |
| 06:33.51 | mattbnr | ok so ill just wait till its fixed it dont happen that often and i only lost liek a coupel silver its jsut weird to see the prices different |
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| 06:37.52 | LeetScooTR | bleeter: when someone asks for a price check in guild chat how does it know the name to whisper back? is it from [ to :? |
| 06:44.40 | mattbnr | ok im falling asleep im out later all |
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| 07:14.34 | bleeter | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqy9hxhUxK0 |
| 07:14.42 | bleeter | gah, wrong # |
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| 07:22.31 | bleeter | LeetScooTR: dunno |
| 07:22.36 | LeetScooTR | k |
| 07:22.46 | bleeter | i think it's parsing into sections, and the way that thing's formed is breaking stuff |
| 07:22.54 | bleeter | did it use to work in 4.0? |
| 07:23.12 | LeetScooTR | dont think so |
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| 08:12.22 | Speeddymon | h |
| 08:33.08 | LeetScooTR | http://norganna.org/discuss/discussion/4808/askprice-incognito-addon-in-guild-chat-makes-it-not-work |
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| 09:02.32 | easygold | hello |
| 09:02.42 | easygold | is the new auctioneer working? |
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| 09:02.48 | Yeoatwork | yes |
| 09:03.03 | easygold | i have trouble putting stacks of goods splited in ones in ah |
| 09:04.41 | Yeoatwork | try to disable ALL addons, except auctioneer pachakge, and then look what happens |
| 09:04.57 | Yeoatwork | for easy rollback, you can make a backup of WTF folder |
| 09:06.01 | bleeter | easygold: which version are you currently using? |
| 09:12.46 | easygold | the one released in 25 sept |
| 09:12.51 | easygold | 2days ago |
| 09:13.24 | norgs | There have been reports of continued splitting issues |
| 09:13.38 | easygold | hmm |
| 09:13.39 | norgs | I am unable to replicate |
| 09:13.48 | norgs | need to ask some questions |
| 09:13.59 | easygold | i'll try and use only auctioneer as addos and see what happens |
| 09:14.00 | norgs | 1: Are you using the TBC wow client? |
| 09:14.06 | easygold | yes |
| 09:14.26 | norgs | 2: Does the problem occur with only Auctioneer installed? |
| 09:14.40 | easygold | i haven't tryed it yet |
| 09:14.42 | easygold | :D |
| 09:15.06 | norgs | 3: Are you using just Auctioneer Classic (4.0.5) or are you combining with Auctioneer Advanced? |
| 09:15.15 | easygold | i am at work and i canot start the client |
| 09:15.26 | easygold | i am only using auctioneer advanced |
| 09:15.49 | norgs | Ok, this is a new issue then |
| 09:16.09 | norgs | First time I've heard of an issue with Appraiser splitting stuff. |
| 09:16.30 | norgs | (you are ysing Appraiser to post the items, right?) |
| 09:16.52 | easygold | right |
| 09:17.15 | bleeter | please try with only auctioneer and the appraiser mods, and their dependencies. it's possible another mod may be interfering. |
| 09:17.35 | bleeter | and get the boss to use auctioneer, too ;) |
| 09:24.45 | norgs | and if it works, then reenable mods until it stops |
| 09:25.29 | norgs | then tell us who's responsible so we can bring out the baseball bats |
| 09:26.48 | bleeter | cricket bats > baseball bats |
| 09:26.57 | bleeter | the thud of leather on willow ;) |
| 09:27.44 | norgs | true, but what bloke would risk wrecking their good cricket bat? |
| 09:27.58 | norgs | nah, you keep the baseball bats for the dirty work |
| 09:28.41 | bleeter | not as if I'd use the gray-nicolls |
| 09:30.56 | norgs | home time for me |
| 09:31.11 | norgs | cya all in about an hour |
| 09:31.37 | norgs | btw: Heavenly Sword is as awesome as I thought it would be! :) |
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| 09:35.43 | JesperYinx | Hello everybody! |
| 09:36.33 | JesperYinx | I have a question about Advanced Auctioneer |
| 09:36.58 | JesperYinx | I would like to disable all the info in the tooltip when I hover over an item, except the Marketvalue |
| 09:39.38 | JesperYinx | right if nobody is here, ill await my answer ;) |
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| 09:48.39 | Yinx | Okey im back, sorry I quit earlier (5 min ago lol) |
| 09:48.49 | Yinx | wasnt too sure about my IRC. |
| 09:48.57 | Yinx | Anyway ill repeat my question. |
| 09:49.17 | Yinx | Is there any way to simplify the Auctioneer Advanced tooltips? |
| 09:54.41 | bleeter | oops |
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| 10:01.23 | thundermage | hi all just checking if you had a problem installing auctioneer now? |
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| 10:05.03 | thundermage | anyone there? |
| 10:06.03 | thundermage | ok i guess not have to make do without auctioneer :( |
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| 14:30.39 | iddik_0052 | helloo everyone |
| 14:31.02 | iddik_0052 | my gather don't work why doesnt it? |
| 14:32.57 | bleeter | did you update to version 3.0? |
| 14:36.01 | iddik_0052 | yes |
| 14:36.08 | iddik_0052 | still doesnt work for me |
| 14:36.17 | iddik_0052 | doesnt show ores and harbs :S |
| 14:36.24 | iddik_0052 | minimap don't work or anything |
| 14:38.01 | iddik_0052 | wha should i do to get it working? |
| 14:41.50 | bleeter | it's in your addon menu on the character selection screen, and enabled? |
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| 14:42.20 | bleeter | minimap don't work? are you seeing the gatherer button on the minimap? |
| 14:44.01 | iddik_0052 | minimap don't work and worldmap don't work |
| 14:44.05 | iddik_0052 | yes |
| 14:44.06 | iddik_0052 | i see it |
| 14:44.28 | iddik_0052 | in there it is all that r from start r pressed |
| 14:44.42 | iddik_0052 | herb tresh mining |
| 14:44.58 | iddik_0052 | everything is done in there but i can't see any ores or anything :S |
| 14:45.04 | iddik_0052 | not old once or new once |
| 14:45.31 | bleeter | is the minimap icon itself green coloured, or greyed out? have you tried with only gatherer loaded, to ensure it's not a conflict with other mods? |
| 14:45.55 | iddik_0052 | green |
| 14:46.02 | iddik_0052 | ye i have try that |
| 14:46.08 | iddik_0052 | still nothing |
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| 14:48.07 | AAp | hello |
| 14:49.02 | AAp | hum, got a short question, wich URL do i need for the svn updates for auctioneer |
| 14:49.28 | bleeter | iddik_0052: well, I really don't know what to suggest. Esamynn|afk is the person to speak to about gatherer, but is AFK right now. Maybe try again a bit later on, or file a bug report. Sorry I can't help much more than that at the momen. |
| 14:50.08 | bleeter | AAp: why do you need the SVN updates? |
| 14:50.24 | AAp | well its easier for me to maintain |
| 14:50.30 | AAp | (im lazy) |
| 14:50.33 | AAp | :P |
| 14:50.51 | bleeter | and prepared to handle the breakage that occurs from time to time, I hope :P |
| 14:51.00 | bleeter | http://www.norganna.org/svn/auctioneer/trunk/ |
| 14:51.05 | AAp | thnx ;) |
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| 14:56.47 | weasle | ok, I couldn't find anything on the web site about it but I can't seem to get any kind of tooltip to display, auctioneer works, and it scans and everything but I get no visible data underneath items when i mouse over them. |
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| 14:58.51 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: 03kandoko * r2259 10Auc-Util-AskPrice/AskPrice.lua: |
| 14:58.51 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: *fixed a rogue debug message. |
| 14:58.51 | CIA-17 | auctioneer: Added mentalpower's configuration options from rev 2257 |
| 15:08.39 | Kandoko | Weasle, 2.2 changed some tooltip functions that broke some older mods. For me itemrack stoped all tooltips from appearing. Try running auctioneer with non auc mods disables see if tooltips reappear. |
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| 15:51.47 | duo_0079 | Hi. Quick question: is WoW UI Updater able to update Auctioneer Advanced already? |
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| 15:59.47 | Volter1 | Hi How to activate enchantrix? |
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| 16:18.00 | iddik_0052 | a question were is the best mining place to mine mith? |
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| 16:29.58 | mark4 | has the bug related to preferences not being loaded correctly in the HUD been fixed? |
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| 18:14.16 | amorfati | Hey, I came in last night regarding Enchantrix crashing WoW when clicking on the mini-map icon: read some stuff about other issues related to the problem suggesting a complete reinstall of WoW. Did that, problem still arises |
| 18:14.34 | amorfati | Happens on a level 70 warlock, doesn't happen on a level 1 draenei shaman |
| 18:14.43 | amorfati | fresh WTF folder |
| 18:14.49 | amorfati | does anyone have any ideas as to why? |
| 18:14.57 | Yeos | any other addons enabled? |
| 18:15.11 | amorfati | tried with and without |
| 18:16.03 | Yeos | if you realy tried disabling ALL addons, except auctioneer package, than i don't know |
| 18:16.53 | amorfati | yes, I really did. And regardless, even with all mods enabled on the level 1 draenei, it doesn't crash |
| 18:16.53 | Yeos | you can try once more by deleting cache and WTF, and without any other addons |
| 18:17.41 | Yeos | then you better stay here in IRC for hours, wait when dev apears and gives you some sugestions |
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| 18:58.46 | dinesh-work | amorfati: caused an error, or actually hard crashed wow back to the desktop? |
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| 19:01.42 | amorfati | dinesh-work: crashed to desktop |
| 19:02.10 | dinesh-work | ahh, well that is a problem we cannot fix. |
| 19:02.26 | dinesh-work | you have to take the crash log that results and give it to blizzard. |
| 19:02.53 | dinesh-work | i second the suggestion to clear your cache file first (while wow is closed) and see if that helps |
| 19:03.12 | dinesh-work | you might also start with a completely fresh WTF file, too, especially if you were otherwise using the wowhead file |
| 19:03.36 | dinesh-work | but in general, no addon should be able to cause a hard crash. if it is, there's a problem which blizzard has to correct |
| 19:04.08 | dinesh-work | be prepared for a long fight though, they love to tell you that they can't control addons, and you should just remove them |
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| 19:51.16 | Brockjava | Hi all |
| 19:51.33 | Iron | Playing with the new advanced auctioneer and when I go to put up a new item it's not suggesting a buy out price. I know I am missing the obvious somewhere on why. |
| 19:51.45 | Brockjava | I'm using the latest version of Auctioneer and Auctioneeradv |
| 19:51.56 | Brockjava | Did you scan? |
| 19:52.04 | Iron | yes but only once so far |
| 19:52.22 | Iron | I was wondering if it needs more than one to start suggesting buy outs |
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| 19:52.29 | Brockjava | You can change the price from the default (market) to something else |
| 19:52.35 | Iron | yes |
| 19:52.49 | Brockjava | It can't suggest anything unless it sees the item in the market if you are using Market price |
| 19:52.54 | Iron | It's showing a start bid suggestion, just not a buy out one |
| 19:53.00 | Brockjava | remember, the adv db is different and must be built |
| 19:53.16 | Brockjava | maybe the item in the AH didn't have a bo price |
| 19:53.26 | Iron | so it needs a few more scans before it starts suggesting? |
| 19:53.46 | Brockjava | Try it on an item with a bp and bo price |
| 19:53.50 | Iron | I have tried about 6 or 7 items. None get a suggested buy iut |
| 19:54.07 | Brockjava | I found a bug with refreshing using the appraiser |
| 19:54.16 | Iron | ok, let me tinker a bit miore. Thank you |
| 19:54.31 | Brockjava | No BO with any item? |
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| 19:55.02 | Brockjava | Date: 2007-09-27 12:49:50 |
| 19:55.13 | Brockjava | Message: ..\AddOns\Auctioneer\Database\AucItemDB.lua line 548: |
| 19:55.26 | Brockjava | attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
| 19:55.34 | Brockjava | oops |
| 19:55.36 | Brockjava | attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
| 19:56.11 | Iron | Hmmm. I tried adamantite ore since there is tons of that in the ah but still no suggested buy out price when I put some in to post. |
| 19:56.52 | Iron | Does it need more than one scan to activate that? |
| 19:56.53 | Brockjava | So it is with every item? |
| 19:56.59 | Brockjava | shouldn't |
| 19:57.19 | Iron | yeah. It lists a start bid but nothing under buy out |
| 19:57.35 | Brockjava | This in the Appraiser? |
| 19:57.49 | Brockjava | What is your price model set to? |
| 19:58.43 | Iron | where is that under? |
| 19:58.44 | Brockjava | afk |
| 20:00.16 | Iron | brb |
| 20:03.21 | Iron | PRICE VALUATION METHOD IS ON MARKET VALUE IF THAT MATTERS |
| 20:03.35 | Iron | oops. dumb cap lock button |
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| 20:14.20 | Iron | trying a second scan. seeing if that helps |
| 20:15.27 | trantos | heaya salza all...guys can you be nice and help me with gatherer..so the rpf is i;m noob with this addon ..i put it in my addons ..i see the addon in wow ..right click all fine ..but when i go get a plant is not recordinig nothing ..do i need another addon to function |
| 20:15.28 | trantos | ? |
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| 20:17.27 | trantos | heloo |
| 20:17.33 | trantos | can someone help me pls |
| 20:18.13 | Shrap | Hello All. Just wondering if anyone knows of a good mailbox mod that can deal pull all your mail for you and deal with blizzards latest attempt to thwart the gold miners via 'pending sales'? |
| 20:18.30 | Harshmage | be patient, a real technical support person will be with you in a while |
| 20:19.46 | Harshmage | CT_MailMod will open all your mail for you at once, but nothing will get around the "pending sales" thing. It's built into the game |
| 20:20.05 | Iron | My wife hates that lol |
| 20:20.23 | Iron | Mind you of course she chews on me about it. |
| 20:21.10 | Iron | crud still no buy out suggested price |
| 20:21.14 | Shrap | Hates the new mail thing? |
| 20:21.29 | Iron | Oh yeah. She wants her money the second the sale is done |
| 20:22.21 | trantos | nvm...nn all |
| 20:22.30 | Shrap | yeah.. seems like they could have took a look at auctioneer and just established a median price for items.. then when its a certain percent over median price they could hold it for an hour to look at it.. |
| 20:24.07 | Shrap | it would give them 95% less mail to review and still accomplish their goal |
| 20:24.23 | Shrap | and make your wife happy |
| 20:24.24 | Iron | I am not sure how it's suppose to help counter the gold farming but I expect it does what they wish because they wouldn't impliment it knowing the fuss it would cause unless it was something extremely useful for them to do |
| 20:25.10 | Shrap | they want a chance to review the sales before they let them through... gold farmers were having customers post linen for 1000g and getting them their gold that way |
| 20:25.27 | Iron | Crud. Still no joy. I didn't change any of the option I don't think is the thing so I can't imagine what's wrong. |
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| 20:25.52 | Shrap | whats the issue? |
| 20:26.36 | Iron | I installed advanced auctioneer. did my first scan but when I list an item it only shows mw a suggested start price, not a suggested price for the buy out price |
| 20:27.08 | Iron | I'm scratching my head to figure out why |
| 20:27.25 | Shrap | hmm i wonder if it wants more data.. it hasnt seen them sell yet |
| 20:28.24 | Iron | I am wondering that as well although it does it for everything including adamantite ore which there is a ton of it up on the ah so it should have gotten good info on that item. Unless it wants more general info all around |
| 20:29.36 | Shrap | im not sure how it works but somehow it gives an estimate of what the items have sold for in the past.. it wouldnt be able to give that estimate without a minimum of 2 scans i wouldnt think |
| 20:30.24 | Iron | I just did a second scan and restarted but nothing. It's giving me a suggested start price though |
| 20:31.11 | Shrap | yeah it can give you that off just a ui refresh cause its basing it on the current pricing |
| 20:31.22 | Shrap | or 300% vendor mark up |
| 20:35.30 | Shrap | im sure these guys have the answer though.. gl.. thnx for the help Harshmage.. yeah im not trying to get around the pending mail its just freezing my mail looting mod.. ill try yours |
| 20:39.35 | Iron | I am just about ready to pull the old auctioneer files out of my trash bin |
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| 20:49.13 | dinesh-work | Iron: that does not sound normal |
| 20:49.23 | Iron | lol |
| 20:49.29 | dinesh-work | i can't think of any option that would cause it either |
| 20:49.44 | dinesh-work | can you try disabling other mods and see if the problem persists? |
| 20:50.23 | Iron | It's now developed another quirk. The sidebar lost the middle icon. |
| 20:50.40 | dinesh-work | meh, that sounds very tainted |
| 20:50.44 | Iron | I am going to try a fresh install. start from scratch |
| 20:50.46 | dinesh-work | you might try blowing it away and reinstalling |
| 20:54.55 | Iron | still only getting the two icons on the sidebar. The gold and the red. |
| 20:55.47 | Iron | Odd because I was getting the green one as well just before |
| 20:56.11 | Iron | ok, scanning |
| 20:57.56 | Iron | brb |
| 20:58.27 | Iron | The middle icon returned and I didn't do anything |
| 20:59.38 | Iron | Permission to whack the thing with a stick? Ok, it won't help but if I crack my monitor it gives me an excuse to go get a new wide screen LCD. :o) |
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| 21:11.28 | Iron | fresh install and all I did was start it up and run a scan. Still no suggested buy out price |
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| 21:15.15 | Iron | and the green icon on the sidebar vanished again |
| 21:19.42 | Iron | Ok, this is different. The check box for remembering the price on an item isn't there anymore. Should it be? |
| 21:21.32 | Iron | Ok, I am going to go and try auctioneer the vanilla |
| 21:29.11 | Iron | Well vanilla auctioneer seems to work fine so I think I'll stick to that. Mind you it's fantastic itself |
| 21:39.07 | mark4 | any word on the HUD prefs bug? |
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| 21:57.59 | Brockjava | ok back |
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| 22:08.29 | DracoDan | wow, looks like you guys are gonna be crazy busy working on the new auctioneer stuff for 2.3 |
| 22:11.35 | mark4 | 2.3 is the most messed up patch EVER |
| 22:13.23 | Brockjava | yea |
| 22:13.53 | Brockjava | I found a few bugs in game, not to mention the mods |
| 22:14.05 | bleeter | 2.3 isn't even on the PTRs yet |
| 22:14.18 | Brockjava | I just fixed a bug in CTmod that prohibited the movement of the class bar. |
| 22:14.51 | bleeter | and, I think, compared to the 1.12 -> 2.0 change, the incremental change from 2.1.3 to 2.2.0 is minor :P |
| 22:15.27 | Brockjava | attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
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| 22:15.58 | Brockjava | Message: ..\AddOns\Auctioneer\Database\AucItemDB.lua line 548: |
| 22:16.08 | Brockjava | attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
| 22:16.33 | Brockjava | that happens when I refresh using the appraiser |
| 22:17.33 | bleeter | Borckjava: with only auctioneer and it's dependencies loaded? |
| 22:18.37 | Brockjava | Hmm what are the dependancies again? I'll try that |
| 22:19.08 | Brockjava | enhtool and stubby right? |
| 22:19.55 | norgs | if you mouseover an addon, you'll see it's dependancies listed |
| 22:20.08 | norgs | *dependencies |
| 22:21.06 | Brockjava | Saw that... I just turned on the whole pack that was in the zip |
| 22:21.21 | mark4 | norgs hi :) |
| 22:21.43 | Brockjava | yep got the same error |
| 22:21.44 | Brockjava | AddOns: |
| 22:21.53 | Brockjava | those are the only mods |
| 22:22.09 | Brockjava | Message: ..\AddOns\Auctioneer\Database\AucItemDB.lua line 548: |
| 22:22.39 | Brockjava | It looks like it is an error in Auctioneer |
| 22:23.52 | norgs | ko, i'll take a looksee |
| 22:29.14 | Brockjava | Am I correct in thinking that I have to do two scans if the Auction 4 and AuctionADV 5 DB are updated? One ply clicking the "arrow" icon at the top and the other my clicking the "scan" button? |
| 22:32.01 | dinesh-work | Brockjava: you shouldn't have to, auc5 should pick up an auc4 scan, but i don't think it is working now. |
| 22:32.10 | dinesh-work | or at least, i'm not sure if it's working |
| 22:32.28 | dinesh-work | also, to post your error messages, please use the pastey link from the topic - it is much easier for us to read |
| 22:32.40 | dinesh-work | ok, headed home. catch you all in a bit. |
| 22:34.05 | Brockjava | ow do I do that? |
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| 22:36.32 | Brockjava_ | Test |
| 22:37.25 | Brockjava | Okay Now using a real client... how do I use pasty if I'm using a real client? |
| 22:38.58 | Brockjava | Ok interesting... I can refresh when other items are selected. However when I select "The Bringer of Death" I get the error. |
| 22:41.48 | Brockjava | Ok got the pasty thing figured out: That is cool |
| 22:41.49 | Brockjava | http://norganna.pastey.net/74488 |
| 22:42.37 | Brockjava | Anyone here? |
| 22:43.01 | norgs | What color it the bringer of death? |
| 22:43.09 | Brockjava | Blue |
| 22:43.22 | norgs | can you give me it's id (/inf show-link on) |
| 22:44.21 | Brockjava | Are you on |
| 22:44.27 | norgs | (then it's link appears in the tooltip) |
| 22:45.03 | Brockjava | ok |
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| 22:45.45 | Brockjava | Do I type that whole number? |
| 22:45.57 | norgs | YUP |
| 22:46.03 | norgs | sorry caps |
| 22:46.12 | Brockjava | 31308:0:0:0:0:0:0 1530622572 |
| 22:46.29 | Brockjava | yep that is it |
| 22:46.40 | norgs | cool |
| 22:46.48 | Brockjava | You got my pasty right? |
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| 22:50.24 | norgs | YEAH |
| 22:50.44 | norgs | bugger... sorry again |
| 22:51.28 | norgs | (laptop keyboard it too small for me, i keep bumping the capslock key) |
| 22:52.10 | Brockjava | heh |
| 22:52.16 | Brockjava | NO WORRIES MAN |
| 22:52.23 | Brockjava | :0 |
| 22:52.26 | Brockjava | ;) |
| 22:52.50 | norgs | COOL ! :p |
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| 22:57.56 | Brockjava | Norgs: Looking at it? |
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| 22:59.32 | norgs | well,patching wow and updating my svn working copy on my laptop at the moment, but after that's finished, sure! :) |
| 23:00.39 | Brockjava | Cool, what is the "svn working copy"? |
| 23:01.01 | Brockjava | Agamaggan, I'm on that server you? |
| 23:02.04 | norgs | i have a char on agamaggan |
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| 23:02.12 | norgs | only level 1 :) |
| 23:02.18 | Brockjava | Bank toad? |
| 23:02.52 | Brockjava | Ok I have a ?, the number under the item in Appraiser, can't figure that out. I'm assuming so many of that item seen at that value? |
| 23:04.13 | Brockjava | Some are blue, gree, yello, and red |
| 23:04.34 | Brockjava | Is that a history of the items under/over market value? |
| 23:05.17 | Brockjava | I know it isn't a current reflection of the market because some of the number are greater than the items on the market currently. |
| 23:05.17 | norgs | nope, that's curret number of items over/under market value |
| 23:05.37 | Brockjava | Really, let me check again |
| 23:06.14 | Brockjava | When I click the refresh button, does it refresh all items or just the one I have selected? |
| 23:07.36 | Brockjava | Ok take for example, Lesser Nether Essence. There are 10 auctions (14 total items) so it is the current number... no auctions. got it |
| 23:07.47 | Brockjava | When I click the refresh button, does it refresh all items or just the one I have selected? |
| 23:08.45 | Brockjava | You know the one thing I miss is the %undercutting message |
| 23:11.03 | Brockjava | This also might sound silly but I was thinking if the color of the number that represen gold,silver,copper were something other than yellow, each time I look at the amount, I think it is gold because of the color. |
| 23:11.32 | Brockjava | Maybe match the number to the color of the metal? |
| 23:11.48 | Brockjava | As you do in the Appraiser list |
| 23:12.17 | Brockjava | I see what was done... it is different depending on where you look. |
| 23:12.38 | Brockjava | The browse window changed the entire color based on the total amount. |
| 23:12.54 | norgs | O.o |
| 23:13.07 | Brockjava | The appraiser window list does it right |
| 23:13.26 | Brockjava | but the popout auction detail just uses yellow LOL |
| 23:13.52 | norgs | popout auction detail? like on the right? |
| 23:14.03 | Brockjava | Yes, the #'s are all yellow |
| 23:14.17 | Brockjava | They do have the icon/graphic though |
| 23:14.33 | norgs | should be gold/silver/copper |
| 23:14.35 | norgs | ... |
| 23:14.39 | Brockjava | White might be better there if the icon is being sed |
| 23:14.51 | norgs | which icon? |
| 23:14.58 | norgs | you are confusing me here |
| 23:15.12 | Brockjava | Gold # is yellow, the Silver # is yellow, the Copper # is yellow in the Auction Detail/Appraiser window |
| 23:15.33 | Brockjava | The window on the right |
| 23:15.53 | Brockjava | It is collapsable |
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| 23:17.18 | norgs | right, you're just saying to make the text white |
| 23:18.54 | Brockjava | I'm on the vent server FYI |
| 23:19.34 | Brockjava | Well what do you think? Match it to the same scheme as the appraiser list window? Or match it to the Browse window tab? |
| 23:19.55 | Brockjava | Personally I like what you did with the Appraiser list window. |
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| 23:28.12 | Brockjava | Does the scan button do the same thing as the > button at the top of the auction house interface window? |
| 23:29.50 | norgs | no, the scan button is for auctioneer 4 |
| 23:30.35 | Brockjava | I thought that is what the release notes said, someone told me the wrong thing. |
| 23:30.44 | Brockjava | I've been updating both db's |
| 23:30.55 | Brockjava | I do like the pause feature! |
| 23:31.02 | Brockjava | ADV kicks butt! |
| 23:31.10 | norgs | ? |
| 23:31.52 | Brockjava | Auctioneer Advanced, is awesome. |
| 23:32.00 | Brockjava | (english translation) |
| 23:32.02 | norgs | you thought .... is what the release notes said |
| 23:32.20 | Brockjava | That the AC5 db is seperate from AC4 |
| 23:32.29 | norgs | it is |
| 23:32.50 | Brockjava | And that if I wanted to keep both updated, I would have to scan using their own interface. |
| 23:33.08 | Brockjava | Now a question I had about the refresh button in Appraiser |
| 23:33.20 | norgs | nope. a4 scan will poopulate a5 |
| 23:33.32 | Brockjava | Oh sweet |
| 23:33.37 | norgs | a5 scan won't populate a4 (it gets confused) |
| 23:33.46 | Brockjava | oic, that will save me time |
| 23:33.49 | norgs | but a4 scan doesn't support pause/resume) |
| 23:34.12 | norgs | gotta go |
| 23:34.12 | Brockjava | Does the refresh button in the appriaser refresh just the selected item or all? |
| 23:42.33 | Brockjava | Does anyone know? |
| 23:42.44 | Brockjava | Does the refresh button in the appriaser refresh just the selected item or all? |
| 23:46.11 | bleeter | it basically performs a search of the AH for the currently selected item and displays the results in the appraiser window |
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| 23:48.41 | Brockjava | so it doesn't refresh all the items in your bag, just the one selected? |
| 23:49.07 | Brockjava | Hmm, idea, check box for all |
| 23:49.19 | Brockjava | too much? |
| 23:49.53 | bleeter | well, given the idea is that you're looking at the items you're about to compete against |
| 23:50.12 | bleeter | ie, you select an item, you see the current competition, or at least I figure that's the idea. |
| 23:50.38 | bleeter | oh, I see what you want. you want a queue created for everything in your bag, and then update stats just for them? |
| 23:51.15 | Brockjava | yea, cool. What Im also looking at are the numbers below the item. If all items refreshed, then I could scroll down and take a quick glance at what the competition was for the items in my bag. |
| 23:51.43 | norgs | it will obviouslytake a while to do the lot |
| 23:52.02 | Brockjava | I was thinking, too much. |
| 23:52.28 | Brockjava | However, when you scan, those numbers are updated? |
| 23:52.34 | norgs | number of items * number of pages * 5 (seconds) |
| 23:53.19 | bleeter | merely by clicking on the item in the appraiser, and have the items appear in the browsing window there, you're updating the stats |
| 23:53.45 | norgs | say there's 10 items in your bags, and an average of 1.5 pages per item, that's 75 seconds or a minute and a quarter |
| 23:54.10 | Brockjava | wow... |
| 23:54.38 | Brockjava | so if I click the item it automatically refreshes? Why have the refresh button? |
| 23:55.05 | bleeter | because you might sit there for 5-10 mins fiddling with prices, go AFK, come back etc. |
| 23:55.38 | bleeter | if you're selling some of the item already, they might sell, so you can refresh to see the updated current list |
| 23:55.39 | Brockjava | and then would have to click one item then back again |
| 23:56.12 | norgs | uhm, it doesn't auto refresh? |
| 23:56.13 | Brockjava | nice job guys, if I can help in anyway I'd be happy to. |
| 23:56.35 | Brockjava | I thought you said "merely by clicking on the item in the appraiser, and have the items appear in the browsing window there, you're updating the stats" |
| 23:56.46 | bleeter | i dunno if it auto-refreshes on my sale.. I don't sell ;) |
| 23:56.57 | Brockjava | So what do you mean by "updating the stats"? |
| 23:57.04 | norgs | uhm, where did i say that? |
| 23:57.10 | bleeter | I did, so it's prolly wrong |
| 23:57.24 | Brockjava | Ooops bleeter did sorry |
| 23:57.40 | Brockjava | have to run, bbl |
| 23:57.49 | Brockjava | awesome job guys |
| 23:58.06 | norgs | ~lart bleeter |
| 23:58.06 | purl | pries bleeter's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to bleeter |
| 23:58.16 | norgs | appropriate :) |
| 23:58.17 | bleeter | sorry, my confusion... I would've thought the displaying of items in appraiser would've added to the stats, thus updating the info on the left panel |
| 23:58.35 | bleeter | well. maybe three items a week |
| 23:58.50 | norgs | well, it does if you refresh |
| 23:59.15 | norgs | but it doesn't autorefresh when you just click the item. it only shows cached data |