| 00:00.55 | Malivil | a book? wow |
| 00:04.01 | Malivil | I haven't worked on this since... january |
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| 00:11.51 | Malivil | hmm |
| 00:12.00 | Malivil | well, cant really do much can I... good to see you all |
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| 12:14.21 | sle | any dev here, who is interested in aadv feedback? |
| 12:16.58 | sle | anyone else who knows why the bottomscanner option "prefer Auctioneer 4 prices, if available" doesnt seem to work? |
| 12:18.59 | sle | is anybody listening to this channel or is it dead? |
| 12:19.49 | sle | ah :) |
| 12:20.04 | sle | i almost thought that Konversation was acting funny |
| 12:20.08 | Ragowit | An operator will probably read what you have typed, when they are back from whatever they are doing (work, sleep, wow, dinner) |
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| 12:20.55 | sle | is it better to leave feedback here or at the forums? |
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| 12:48.48 | sle | Another question: I have the distinct impression that the deposit costs are not subtracted from the potential profit value (as i set it in the bottomscanner resale options...) (blue item: buyout price 8.00.00 / valuation estimate 24.85.50 / potential profit: 16.85.50) > where are the deposit costs factored in? Any idea why i see this behavior? |
| 13:05.23 | norgs | sle possible that it doesn't know the value of the blue item |
| 13:05.58 | norgs | in this case it cannot subtract deposit. or it's possible that you do not have informant installed/loaded |
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| 13:21.08 | sle | ok, thx, but ive quite often seen this behavior, actually, i've yet to see a different one... |
| 13:21.36 | sle | potentialprofit = valuation estimate - price (without fail) |
| 13:21.50 | sle | and i havent changed the EvalResale.lua yet |
| 13:22.37 | sle | Informant is running |
| 13:23.01 | sle | (btw, very nice work with Aadv in general :) ) |
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| 13:33.02 | sle | another thing: the "using auctioneer 4 prices" option seems to be quite buggy for me. I dont know where the heck btmscanner is getting its data from, but it sure aint auct 4.04 (at times 10x the real price) |
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| 13:41.10 | Herskerlars | I think you should change the font on your page, its very hard to read. Unless you zoom in alot, witch is not cool either. |
| 13:42.01 | sle | strange, the font seems very fine for me, are you sure you havent changed the font size default in your browser? |
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| 13:43.30 | norgs | sle: Could you please mouseover your tooltip while holding down shift and then take a screenshot of the tooltip and upload it to http://norganna.org/up/ |
| 13:43.50 | norgs | Herskerlars: You are using really small UI scale? |
| 13:44.32 | norgs | sle: actually for the record, you are using the latest version, correct? |
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| 14:16.25 | Sereinai | Hello. I decided to try the AuctioneerAdvanced and clicked Ignore instead of No when asked about a auction. Is it possible to remove items from this Ignore list? |
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| 14:40.48 | komodor | hi |
| 14:41.01 | komodor | guys, just question .. the advanced auctioneer .. is it working? |
| 14:43.23 | sle | yes, it is |
| 14:43.37 | sle | though it is not a finished release |
| 14:43.51 | sle | you have to accept that things might not be bug-free |
| 14:44.12 | sle | if you are cautious, or unwilling to take a look at lua-files then wait |
| 14:44.28 | sle | if you like to experiment and optimize, then give it a try |
| 14:44.48 | sle | i quite like it, though i have my share of troubles still |
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| 15:59.03 | komodor | thx ... i will try it, i have spec auction char without addons, so it might work best |
| 16:00.06 | komodor | btw, the enchantrix beta .. are the prices accurate now? i am trying to buy everything disenchantable and make money and of course stabilize market of enchantment reagents |
| 16:09.10 | Yeos | i'm still not getting a clue, what is those 4 colored numbers in Appraiser, every item have at least 2 numbers, most of them 3, and some even 4 (blue / green / yellow / red) |
| 16:09.27 | Yeos | maybe somwhere in forums or web is explanation about these small features? |
| 16:15.21 | komodor | guys and i have other question ... can i merge somehow 2 auctioneer files with auction data into one? like merge info from 2 servers into one? |
| 16:19.56 | sunburn | the colored numbers are the number of items in the specific price range, i think you can define the percentage of those levels somewhere in the options |
| 16:24.47 | Calliee | those numbers are an indication of any competition that auctioneer has seen on the auction house |
| 16:25.13 | Calliee | the colors indicate how closely they have over or under priced the reccomended listing price |
| 16:27.00 | Calliee | blue and green are listed higher than the recomended price, yellow and red lower |
| 16:27.34 | sunburn | its the other way round |
| 16:27.49 | Calliee | erm, depends on where you're looking actually |
| 16:28.39 | Calliee | if it's the colors on the little numbers in the right hand column (stuff in your bag) then it's as I just said |
| 16:29.08 | Calliee | if it's the percentages in the competition listing, then yes, it is the other way around |
| 16:30.50 | Calliee | basically if you're on the appraiser tab it's one way, on the Browse tab it's the opposite |
| 16:31.57 | sunburn | nah |
| 16:32.09 | sunburn | both the same |
| 16:32.20 | sunburn | going from blue(low) to red(high) |
| 16:32.31 | Calliee | example: I have Khorium Boots in my bag, shows up in the list with a green #1 |
| 16:33.02 | Calliee | I go to list, Auctioneer recomends I list for 95 gold, competition is listed for 100g |
| 16:33.36 | Calliee | I'm undercutting so the number is green |
| 16:34.09 | Calliee | basically it's set up so green and blue are always good, gold is ok, and red is bad |
| 16:36.02 | Calliee | when you see something like Silk cloth with 271 in green, 236 is gold, 52 in orange, and 4052 in red, you're almost certainly going to lose money or not sell anything by listing |
| 16:37.22 | Calliee | note this is valid only on the Appraiser tab |
| 16:38.52 | Calliee | on the browse tab the colors indicate how much the listing you're looking at is over or under what auctioneer thninks it's worth |
| 16:39.03 | Calliee | *thinks* |
| 16:39.47 | Calliee | blue or green indicates that it is listed low, and you stand the chance of making money if you buy it to resell |
| 16:40.17 | Calliee | Yellow means it's just right or a little high |
| 16:40.38 | Calliee | orange means the seller is gambling, red means the seller is insane |
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| 20:50.07 | Patrocinor | Hello Everyone. |
| 20:50.55 | Patrocinor | Does anyone have a moment to answer a few questions about Gatherer |
| 20:51.12 | Patrocinor | I'm trying to import a Database file, and need help. |
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| 20:51.44 | Patrocinor | hello |
| 20:51.51 | Patrocinor | Nader can you help me? |
| 20:51.59 | Nader | in what ? |
| 20:52.10 | Nader | am here to get some help2 :p |
| 20:52.15 | Patrocinor | I'm trying to use a premade Gatherer Database |
| 20:52.21 | Nader | me2 |
| 20:52.23 | Patrocinor | Ah, You too? |
| 20:52.26 | Nader | i just dl it |
| 20:52.33 | Nader | lemme check and read |
| 20:52.37 | Patrocinor | sweet did you get the one from WoW head? |
| 20:52.47 | Nader | from another site |
| 20:52.53 | Nader | linked me to here |
| 20:53.09 | Patrocinor | ah. so you sucessfully imported a database then? |
| 20:53.18 | Nader | i dont know |
| 20:53.18 | Patrocinor | or is that what your having difficulty with? |
| 20:53.22 | Nader | i didnt read well |
| 20:53.28 | Patrocinor | oh ok |
| 20:53.28 | Nader | ill try to read this time :D |
| 20:53.43 | Nader | and ill give u a whisper |
| 20:54.03 | Patrocinor | ok. I'll be sitting here whilst I read too |
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| 20:54.46 | Nader | a;right |
| 20:55.12 | Patrocinor | Hello Tiny |
| 20:57.00 | Nader | i guess i found something |
| 20:57.06 | Patrocinor | whats that |
| 20:57.12 | Nader | http://norganna.org/wiki/GathererDB |
| 20:57.17 | Nader | check the usage part |
| 20:57.23 | Nader | i guess its gona work |
| 20:57.27 | Nader | brb gona try it |
| 20:57.31 | Patrocinor | ok |
| 20:59.29 | Nader | lol i cant log to my server |
| 20:59.42 | Nader | i guess ill try Mnagos server ^^ |
| 21:00.17 | Patrocinor | lol, I'm gonn tab to close and reload the game myself, But I'll still be here |
| 21:03.58 | Patrocinor | Hey Nader, I think I figured it out |
| 21:04.14 | Patrocinor | My database is Importing as we speak |
| 21:05.06 | Patrocinor | I'll alt tab when it's done in case you still need help. |
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| 21:09.03 | Patrocinor | Nader, I dont know if you had the same thing happen that I did, But WHEN I got to about 85% I dropeed to 1 fps in game, now it's importing REALLY slkow |
| 21:13.00 | Patrocinor | Hello Trixis |
| 21:14.57 | Patrocinor | Nader, I figured it out, If you still have problems, Make a Toon on the Dethroc Server (PvP), and PM Patrocinor or a Five Star Guild Member, I'll try to help. |
| 21:15.21 | Nader | AM DONE !! |
| 21:15.27 | Patrocinor | sweet, workie? |
| 21:15.33 | Nader | 100% :) |
| 21:15.43 | Nader | u wanna know how to do it ? |
| 21:16.32 | Nader | oh |
| 21:16.35 | Patrocinor | lol |
| 21:16.38 | Nader | ic that u did it |
| 21:16.41 | Nader | gratz |
| 21:16.45 | Patrocinor | I got it as well (High Five) |
| 21:16.46 | Nader | whats ur realm ? |
| 21:16.50 | Patrocinor | Dethroc |
| 21:16.55 | Nader | EU ? |
| 21:17.00 | Patrocinor | No, USA |
| 21:17.09 | Nader | am from shattered hand |
| 21:17.16 | Nader | cool realm !! |
| 21:17.28 | Nader | didnt work with this gruul !!! |
| 21:17.32 | Patrocinor | Your still welcome to make a tooon. |
| 21:17.39 | Nader | tooon ? |
| 21:17.43 | Patrocinor | Character |
| 21:17.46 | Nader | oh |
| 21:17.48 | Nader | lol |
| 21:17.51 | Nader | i <3 my server |
| 21:17.57 | Nader | lot from my country |
| 21:18.21 | Patrocinor | Thats cool, well good luck adventuring. maybe we'll beet again. |
| 21:18.26 | Nader | i cant log to my realm now |
| 21:18.27 | Patrocinor | meet* |
| 21:18.28 | Nader | a'right |
| 21:18.30 | Nader | cya |
| 21:18.42 | bye | BYE |
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| 22:04.10 | Yeos | Calliee: for example in Appraiser Small Prismatic Shard have such numbers: 1 / 6 / 34 / 1 (green/yellow/orange/red) |
| 22:04.24 | Yeos | or Greater Planar Essence 80 / 239 / 10 / 3 |
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| 22:07.39 | Yeos | normal buyout price for Small Prismatic Shard is between 5 and 7g |
| 22:08.22 | Yeos | Greater Planar Essence buyout is something like 3 - 3.5g |
| 22:08.57 | Yeos | so i still don't understand what are those colored numbers on left column under item names in Appraiser |
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| 22:23.33 | RLD_osx | blue is low red is insanely high |
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| 22:49.56 | norgs | Yeos: They are the price levels |
| 22:51.19 | norgs | If you have a look in the Auctioneer/PriceLevels configuration, you will see a bunch of sliders, which determine the price range that the various levels represent. |
| 22:52.04 | norgs | For example, by default the blue represents the number of auctions that are less than 50% of their market price. |
| 22:53.38 | norgs | Green represents 50% up to less than 75% |
| 22:54.08 | norgs | Yellow is from 75% to 95% |
| 22:54.23 | norgs | Orange is 95% to 125% |
| 22:54.39 | norgs | Red is 125% and over |
| 22:55.40 | norgs | You may change both the price valuation method and the and the level brackets to your taste however |
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