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| 03:29.28 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: 03norganna * r1602 10/trunk/ (auc-advanced/ auctioneer/): |
| 03:29.28 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: Moving auctioneer to auc-advanced (the new name of Auctioneer 5.0) so that 4.0 and 5.0 |
| 03:29.28 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: can run side-by-side. |
| 03:48.08 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: 03norganna * r1603 10/trunk/ (9 files in 4 dirs): Refactoring of all Auctioneer variables to AucAdvanced |
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| 05:09.28 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: 03mentalpower * r1604 10auc-advanced/CoreMain.lua: The AucAdvanced.DecodeLink() function will now correctly return "item" as its linkType return if its passed a numerical parameter. |
| 05:19.23 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: 03mentalpower * r1605 10/trunk/ (34 files in 10 dirs): Corrected the improper use of "it's" in our GPL boilerplate. |
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| 08:42.30 | deyanira | so can anyone here help me out with gatherer? |
| 08:42.39 | deyanira | what it can and can't do? |
| 08:46.37 | Bleeter | herb, mineral, treasure tracking. it *won't* have a pre-existing DB of nodes, as that's against Blizz's wishes, nor will it share your entire learned DB with anyone 'on the fly', as that's also against Blizz's wishes, but it will share anything you find with members of your party and/or guild when you tap a node |
| 08:55.29 | Bleeter | http://norganna.org/wiki/Gatherer_Documentation for more info, I guess |
| 08:56.30 | norgs | you summed it up pretty good |
| 09:01.33 | tedrock | i always run into people in burning steps farming ore and herb. so i tell them to party up if they have gatherer and we can share n |
| 09:01.40 | tedrock | nod data |
| 09:02.00 | tedrock | my map is full of nods. i think i have all of them mapped |
| 09:03.31 | norgs | i'm surprised that there's not more full-on gathering guilds. |
| 09:03.47 | tedrock | yah |
| 09:03.51 | norgs | i had figured that there's be a big call for all-gatherer guilds |
| 09:03.54 | tedrock | you would have sooo much stuff mapped |
| 09:04.24 | tedrock | and everytime i make a new toon i log more and more stuff |
| 09:04.47 | norgs | maybe i'll see if i can't start up a gatherers guild on my current server |
| 09:04.58 | norgs | spam the guild recruit channel |
| 09:05.06 | tedrock | haha |
| 09:05.14 | tedrock | most people that gather are greedy :P |
| 09:05.46 | norgs | true |
| 09:24.10 | deyanira | ah thanks a lot |
| 09:24.17 | deyanira | I thought I could share data with people but I guess not |
| 09:24.19 | deyanira | hahaha |
| 09:24.22 | deyanira | damn blizzard |
| 09:44.04 | Bleeter | well, think of it this way |
| 09:44.33 | Bleeter | if you're in a party or guild, it'd be damn easy for you to just say 'there's a copper node near this tree near the fork in the road in Elwynn' |
| 09:44.48 | Bleeter | and then, other players in your party/guild could just write that down on their pieces of paper |
| 09:45.00 | Bleeter | even then, it's flying close to the wind |
| 09:45.14 | Bleeter | whereas a complete share is straight out 100% datamining (no pun intended) |
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| 09:59.44 | tedrock | if someone wants to show me a location of a nod i just have them send me a map note :P |
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| 12:15.22 | *** topic/#norganna is Auctioneer 4.0 Released! | Gatherer 3.0 still in Gamma | http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl & http://gathereraddon.com/dl | Post bugs on trac or http://norganna.pastey.net/ | Uploads to http://norganna.org/up (if asked) | Vent: talk.norganna.org:4905 | ~auctstuff | #wowi-lounge for general chatter | Patience, my young padawan. |
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| 12:39.12 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: 03luke1410 074.0 * r1606 10enhtooltip/Tooltip.lua: |
| 12:39.12 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: (fixes #1512) EnhTooltip will nolonger raise a nil error, when the GameTooltip is not hooked at all (which could occur when using Bagnon, for example). |
| 12:39.12 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: Missed to handle the case, if GameTooltip was not owned by any other frame. This caused a nil error and should be fixed now. |
| 12:39.12 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: Also fixed some mistakes in code comments. |
| 12:58.19 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: 03luke1410 074.0 * r1607 10enhtooltip/Tooltip.lua: |
| 12:58.19 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: tiny code optimisation |
| 12:58.19 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: removed unnecessary local variable |
| 13:16.04 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: 03luke1410 074.0 * r1608 10enhtooltip/Tooltip.lua: |
| 13:16.04 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: fixed a potential bug, which might unintentionally move the gametooltip |
| 13:16.04 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: The behaviour if the currentTooltip is hooked to the UIParent was changed and is |
| 13:16.04 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: now handled the same way, as if it was attached to any other frame. Before it |
| 13:16.04 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: was handled as if it was not attached at all, which might, if another addon uses |
| 13:16.07 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: the UIParent to properly move the gameTooltip, unintentionally move the |
| 13:16.09 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: gametooltip somewhere else. |
| 13:21.56 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: 03luke1410 074.0 * r1609 10enhtooltip/Tooltip.lua: |
| 13:21.56 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: (fixes #1514) Addons like bagnon will nolonger raise an error, if Tooltip.Show() is called multiple times. |
| 13:21.56 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: If Show() was called multiple times, we ran into some trouble since |
| 13:21.56 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: currentTooltip:GetPoint() will return EnhancedTooltip as the owning object |
| 13:21.56 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: instead of the frame, whereto the gametooltip was attached, before we changed |
| 13:22.00 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: it. This case is now properly handled by the code and the correct owner frame |
| 13:22.02 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: identified. |
| 13:29.21 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: 03luke1410 * r1610 10enhtooltip/Tooltip.lua: |
| 13:29.21 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: void |
| 13:29.21 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: merged the latest changes to branches/4.0/tooltip.lua to the trunk |
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| 13:57.01 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: 03luke1410 074.0 * r1611 10auctioneer/ (AucCore.lua Database/AucDatabase.lua): (log message trimmed) |
| 13:57.02 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: (fixes #1513) Loading Auctioneer for the first time after upgrading from < 4.0 will no longer raise a nil error. |
| 13:57.02 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: Auctioneer calculates the size of the saved variables file upon start. In case |
| 13:57.02 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: the user runs Auctioneer the first time and used a <4.0 database, some of the |
| 13:57.05 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: new tables do not exist before the database is converted. These missing tables |
| 13:57.06 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: raised a nil error. To fix this the time when checking the constant limit was |
| 13:57.08 | CIA-2 | auctioneer: changed to perform the check after the database was converted. If the user |
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| 15:06.42 | FoxyofAzgalor | hello all |
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| 19:03.00 | lolledpala | anyone in here? |
| 19:04.00 | lolledpala | ... I hope not, but to be sure, anyone who reads this message has no life, so get a life plz! :D |
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| 19:30.07 | MentalPower | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:30.22 | purl | hmm... ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
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| 20:31.01 | Pimp1234 | 11H14ello |
| 20:31.29 | Pimp1234 | anyone around to answer questions about auctioneer and gatherer? |
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| 20:34.24 | Pimp1234 | cera u around |
| 20:36.56 | Pimp1234 | anyone around |
| 20:38.48 | MentalPower | perhaps |
| 20:39.09 | Pimp1234 | ah cool u got a second or two |
| 20:39.24 | Pimp1234 | i need help with your program i am a little lost right now with trying to get it workin so is my guild |
| 20:39.45 | Pimp1234 | beenlookin over the forums and help spots and still havent come across a fix or anything for it |
| 20:40.29 | Pimp1234 | i was using metamap which has a herb gatherer in it so i took it out and installed auctionner and gatherer the suite set it hink i download but nothing is working and i cant figure out why |
| 20:41.10 | Pimp1234 | i am wondering if an addon i have is conflicting with it |
| 20:41.22 | Pimp1234 | or is there something wrong that ineed to fix with it |
| 20:42.15 | MentalPower | lets start with the basics |
| 20:42.15 | Pimp1234 | i download this auctioneerpack-4.0.0.zip |
| 20:42.25 | MentalPower | right and gatherer? |
| 20:42.45 | Pimp1234 | yea gatherer came with it, but my guildies told me to redownload jst the gatherer part and i did |
| 20:43.50 | MentalPower | gatherer does not come with auctioneer |
| 20:44.01 | MentalPower | they're separate mods, distributed separately |
| 20:44.58 | Pimp1234 | yea i understand that, the zip file i got has both auctiooneer and gatherer in it |
| 20:45.09 | Pimp1234 | got it off a UI site |
| 20:45.30 | MentalPower | link? |
| 20:45.53 | Pimp1234 | like me to send u the file and u can tell me if came from yall |
| 20:46.08 | Pimp1234 | or if i should jst delete it all and start over |
| 20:46.40 | Pimp1234 | cause the package came with auctioneer, btmscan, enhtooltip, stubby, swatter, beancounter, enchatriz and informant |
| 20:47.15 | MentalPower | lets start over |
| 20:47.40 | MentalPower | http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/ & http://gathereraddon.com/dl/ |
| 20:48.20 | MentalPower | extract both of those into your interface\addons directory as detailed in: |
| 20:48.24 | MentalPower | ~auctinstall |
| 20:48.39 | purl | If you are having trouble installing, try reading http://norganna.org/wiki/Installing |
| 20:49.11 | Pimp1234 | installin is fine, most can figure that part out, let me delete all the stuff i added in |
| 20:49.21 | Pimp1234 | should i leave metamap out of my addons for now? |
| 20:50.11 | MentalPower | it should not matter |
| 20:54.26 | Pimp1234 | ok done downloaded and put in addons folder |
| 20:54.41 | Pimp1234 | i am leaving metamap out of it for now until i get this work |
| 20:54.47 | Pimp1234 | then will add metamap afterwards |
| 20:54.53 | Pimp1234 | as long as they dont conflict |
| 20:55.02 | Pimp1234 | anything else i should do before i start wow? |
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| 20:57.36 | Pimp1234 | 11y14ou still around metalpower? |
| 21:01.40 | PProvost_ | ~seen MentalPower |
| 21:02.07 | purl | mentalpower <i=MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower> was last seen on IRC in channel #norganna, 11m 56s ago, saying: 'it should not matter'. |
| 21:02.10 | Pimp1234 | well i start Wow bck up an dnothing |
| 21:02.30 | MentalPower | oops sorry, got distracted |
| 21:03.01 | Pimp1234 | hey mental |
| 21:03.05 | Pimp1234 | well i installed it all |
| 21:03.09 | MentalPower | when you login to the char select screen and hit the "AddOns" button, is there something different about auctioneer or gatherer? |
| 21:03.09 | Pimp1234 | and start wow back up |
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| 21:03.23 | Pimp1234 | 11N14ope says all good |
| 21:05.02 | Pimp1234 | the only ones that have something next to them is ace 2, proximity and sraidframes which all say out of date, the rest of my addons are working it says |
| 21:05.14 | MentalPower | login and tell me what happens when you do "/auctioneer" and "/gatherer" |
| 21:06.44 | Pimp1234 | nothing says type help for more commands |
| 21:07.38 | Pimp1234 | correctiion it says type help for a listing of commands, but nothing about auctioneer or gatherer came up |
| 21:08.44 | MentalPower | and you're sure that on the char select screen they're both enabled and their dependancies are enabled? |
| 21:09.22 | Pimp1234 | 11y14ep 11y14ep |
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| 21:10.13 | Pimp1234 | all wacked huh |
| 21:11.21 | MentalPower | can you take a screenshot of your AddOns list (in the char select screen) and post it to http://norganna.org/up ? |
| 21:11.30 | Zxcvb | are there any plans to add back to gatherer the ability to search through the collected node info? |
| 21:12.00 | MentalPower | Zxcvb: yes, there are plans |
| 21:12.26 | Zxcvb | any news on the progress of that feature? |
| 21:13.11 | Pimp1234 | hey mental |
| 21:13.15 | Pimp1234 | i think i jst got it to work |
| 21:13.22 | Pimp1234 | i unload all my addons and reloaded them |
| 21:13.26 | MentalPower | Zxcvb: its on the backburner pending the completion of other features |
| 21:13.31 | Pimp1234 | and bingo, i can now type acutionner and it comes up |
| 21:13.33 | MentalPower | Pimp1234: cool! |
| 21:14.09 | Pimp1234 | and hey mental if come to undernet i run a channel called #moviestogo, i am operator there, if u ever stop by |
| 21:15.23 | MentalPower | if I ever go over there I'll say hello |
| 21:15.26 | MentalPower | whats it about? |
| 21:16.52 | Pimp1234 | movies we deal in new released films, Mpeg format |
| 21:17.07 | Pimp1234 | ones that come out in threatre |
| 21:17.12 | Pimp1234 | if i spelled it right lol |
| 21:19.00 | Pimp1234 | one other question for ya metalpower, if i load metamap back up will gatherer still work? or will it conflict with that programs gather , cause i want to use yalls and not there? |
| 21:20.53 | MentalPower | I've never used metamap, but other people do and have not reported any issues |
| 21:21.08 | MentalPower | I believe theres a way to disable metamap's gathering features |
| 21:22.14 | Pimp1234 | ok will do thanks ,for the help |
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| 23:38.51 | Wannaknow | hi |
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| 23:39.32 | Wannaknow | anyone not afk/bot? |
| 23:39.50 | MentalPower|Food | me |
| 23:39.58 | Luke1410 | he's lying :P |
| 23:40.07 | Wannaknow | hehe.. damn bots.. |
| 23:40.10 | Wannaknow | >< |
| 23:40.13 | Wannaknow | j/k |
| 23:40.26 | MentalPower | woot! I was called a bot! |
| 23:40.31 | Wannaknow | anyone know lots about auctioneer, and lua? |
| 23:40.41 | Luke1410 | well wannaknow u just lost ur best source of information :)) |
| 23:40.43 | Wannaknow | (my apologies mental) |
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| 23:40.56 | Wannaknow | darn. |
| 23:41.26 | MentalPower | shoot |
| 23:41.39 | Wannaknow | :) wa-wa-wee-wah. |
| 23:41.50 | Wannaknow | ok.. il make it simple. |
| 23:42.03 | Luke1410 | well... i can tell u how to spell Auctioneer, if that's what u wanna know... otherwise why don't u just ask ur question right ahead so we all can skip these quite boring back and forward posts? |
| 23:42.50 | Wannaknow | ok ok.. - has anyone ever came up with idea to make auctioneer a bot? - |
| 23:43.00 | Wannaknow | combine it with autoit script.. and make him make money himself? |
| 23:44.20 | MentalPower | that would be against the EULA/ToS |
| 23:44.31 | Wannaknow | ye, i know. |
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| 23:44.55 | Wannaknow | so what - worst case scenario is that they ban your acc.. |
| 23:45.03 | Wannaknow | isnt it? |
| 23:45.28 | Luke1410 | yeah... and since auctioneer is meant to be used by players, not by people who wanna make illigeally money out of WoW, that's why we don't do it. |
| 23:45.38 | Wannaknow | (and tell me if its against auctioneer/your personal "EULA" too.. |
| 23:45.56 | Wannaknow | ah, no.. i didnt mean to sell gold or smth like that >< |
| 23:46.07 | Wannaknow | i just wanted to not ever need to grind again |
| 23:46.22 | Wannaknow | or buy and sell things... |
| 23:46.49 | Wannaknow | or ever post in trade chanel again.. - and all the other - time taking actions. |
| 23:47.05 | Luke1410 | it is against all why I'm contributing my freetime for this project without even earning a single penny out of it. So, the answer to ur question would be: It's against my conviction todo anything like that. If u wanna make money out of WoW, than u'd better start coding something urself :) |
| 23:47.23 | Luke1410 | so why the fuck would u wanna risk ur account then? |
| 23:47.49 | Wannaknow | good point. |
| 23:48.09 | Cera | ebayed account? |
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| 23:49.17 | Wannaknow | now i think i was missinterpreted... as i once more read luke's post. |
| 23:49.30 | Wannaknow | i DONT want to make money OUT of wow.. |
| 23:49.43 | Wannaknow | i want to make money in wow :_) for my own personal amusement. |
| 23:49.58 | Wannaknow | (and for guildies.. ) |
| 23:50.13 | Cera | yeah yeah, but what you're asking for is botting, and bots make gold farmers rich |
| 23:50.19 | Luke1410 | well... that amusement would be screwed up as soon as bliz detects that u'd use a bot and removes ur account... wouldn't it? |
| 23:50.51 | Wannaknow | thats true luke. but.. they dont seem to give too much crap about it. |
| 23:51.03 | Wannaknow | well.. - |
| 23:51.18 | Wannaknow | i've been trying out fishbot for.. over a half year now. |
| 23:51.29 | Wannaknow | on guest acount |
| 23:51.35 | Wannaknow | ive put him in orgri to fish.. |
| 23:51.38 | Wannaknow | tb to fish.. |
| 23:51.39 | Wannaknow | etc.. |
| 23:51.47 | Wannaknow | he was never banned. |
| 23:52.00 | Wannaknow | in the middle of .. well.. middles. |
| 23:52.03 | Luke1410 | what makes u think like that? All the users of the most common bots are being banned all the time (check out the record who is using those bots, and then compare it with the amount of accounts being closed per month/quartal)... It's that easy... |
| 23:53.27 | MentalPower | anyways, point is that we don't support that and never will |
| 23:53.40 | Luke1410 | well... probably because did not act conspicious enough? Using fishbot in org, won't make too much money at all... so the impact in the economy is quite low. |
| 23:53.41 | MentalPower | it is also our policy to not help those on that path |
| 23:53.54 | Cera | why even argue over it, botting is against the ToS, people get banned for it, we don't want blizzard to ruin the ui enhancement abilities they've given, nuff said |
| 23:54.06 | MentalPower | what Cera said |
| 23:54.23 | Luke1410 | on the other side a bot like u'r requesting would have a huge impact on WoW's economy and I've got no doubt that Blizz would close every and each account who'd use such a bot.., |
| 23:54.38 | Wannaknow | i m not requesting a bot! i just asked. |
| 23:54.59 | Wannaknow | i cant sleep.. i came up with dumb idea.. thats all. |
| 23:55.47 | Luke1410 | it was a really dumb one, and u'd better convince urself that people who use stuff like that should be everything, but ur friends... |
| 23:57.13 | Wannaknow | oke. nn all.. and sry for hassle. auctioneer is a rly nice addon. keep up the good work. |
| 23:57.53 | Luke1410 | well... u didn't hassle at all :) --- gn8 |
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