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| 03:27.04 | ulta711 | hey |
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| 03:29.23 | DAgher | whats up |
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| 03:31.58 | ulta711 | is anyone here able to help me with my problem? When i scan the AH i always get an error that auctioneer is using up to much memory and then WoW shuts down |
| 03:34.06 | bleetah | ulta711: in the character selection screen, press the 'addons' button. in the top right of the dialog, there's a 'memory limit' setting. increase that up to 64 or 96MB. |
| 03:34.15 | bleetah | in WoW 2.1, that setting won't matter. |
| 03:34.20 | bleetah | as it'll be gone compeltely |
| 03:34.33 | bleetah | (new memory management inside WoW itself makes it irrelevant) |
| 03:35.33 | ulta711 | is there anything else i might be able to do? |
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| 03:45.11 | ulta711 | is ther a reason its using up so much memry or is that just normal? |
| 03:46.04 | gleblanc | I think the newest releases use more memory than the older ones, but auctioneer has always used a fair bit of memory |
| 03:57.32 | bleetah | ulta711: if you're on multiple realms, the reason is that blizzard won't allow per-realm data to be stored, only per-char. so we can either split the data up so it'd only be available on one char, or.. re-write. we're working on the second solution as it's more appropriate/useful ;) |
| 03:58.18 | gleblanc | Can I use bottomscanner to find cheap herbs? |
| 04:03.20 | ulta711 | well increasing the memory usage worked ;) |
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| 04:33.20 | badelf | hey |
| 04:33.28 | badelf | anyone in/ |
| 04:33.31 | badelf | ? |
| 04:33.41 | bleetah | nope, just us 41 chickens |
| 04:33.47 | bleetah | bok bok |
| 04:33.56 | badelf | how do i downloud it |
| 04:34.02 | badelf | actioneer |
| 04:34.22 | badelf | ? |
| 04:34.38 | bleetah | http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/ .. and then |
| 04:34.44 | bleetah | /sigh |
| 04:40.27 | asser | heh |
| 04:40.35 | asser | prolly wouldn't do him any good in any case |
| 04:42.16 | bleetah | never ceases to amaze me that people can work out how to load up an IRC client, connect to this network, get to this chan |
| 04:42.32 | bleetah | and then ask how to go about pressing the download link on the page |
| 04:44.10 | bleetah | with any luck, they left to save themselves the embarrassment ;) |
| 04:44.11 | gleblanc | heh, yeah |
| 04:44.23 | asser | haha indeed |
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| 04:54.07 | demonictouch | hello |
| 04:55.29 | demonictouch | anyone know why my auctions dissapear when i log out? |
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| 13:41.52 | Leila | hello? |
| 13:42.08 | Leila | just wanted to make sure there were live people here lol |
| 13:42.43 | Leila | or not |
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| 13:44.16 | LeilaMcK | anyone here? |
| 13:45.44 | LeilaMcK | ok back to WOW till someone live shows up lol |
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| 13:58.59 | hungryhobo | hi ny1 |
| 13:59.03 | hungryhobo | on? |
| 13:59.38 | hungryhobo | does the auctioneer work and wat does the gatherer do? |
| 14:02.37 | LeilaMcK | anyone here? |
| 14:13.07 | Luke1410_ | what's up? |
| 14:16.38 | LeilaMcK | you there? |
| 14:17.06 | LeilaMcK | i go back and forth between looking for people here and playing WOW..wish i could do both at the same time lol |
| 14:22.11 | Luke1410_ | hm... that might sound strange, but why do u not simply say what u are up to and then wait for the answer instead of asking several times if anybody is around? :) |
| 14:22.23 | LeilaMcK | sorry you are right |
| 14:22.25 | LeilaMcK | ok here goes |
| 14:23.08 | LeilaMcK | two questions really.. first, when you run an auctioneer scan, is this simply to rebatch data for bottom scanner or should you be evaluating and doing something with the list of items that show up after the 12-13 min scan |
| 14:24.06 | LeilaMcK | i'm not sure how to use the results of the scan |
| 14:24.37 | LeilaMcK | actually three questions. here is the second: once you hit "scan" on auctioneer, it becomes very difficult to actually search for a specific item because the scan list keeps popping up. how do you stop the scan or go back to basic browsing/searching |
| 14:26.07 | LeilaMcK | last question: when using bottomscanner, windows pop up with suggestions for items to purchase and resell. i am confused however because more often than not these items are those that are listed in red as being unsellable at a lower price. So how do I best use the popup info given by bottomscanner? |
| 14:26.12 | LeilaMcK | ok done. was that better? |
| 14:26.48 | Calliee | I'll take on the second question first |
| 14:27.18 | Calliee | Bottom scanner doesn't use the auctioneer information as well as it could with the default baserule |
| 14:27.45 | Calliee | that's why the price bottom thinks you can get for an item isn't always what auctioneer thinks you can get for it |
| 14:27.57 | Luke1410_ | btmscanner does not rely on auctioneer's scan atm. The data gathered when pressing the scan button is used for the tooltip data and auctioneer's post/search tabs. |
| 14:28.33 | Calliee | right |
| 14:29.27 | Luke1410_ | 2. By saying "hit the scan button" u mean the "play"-button on the bottom scanner tab? |
| 14:29.41 | Calliee | check out our wiki http://norganna.org/wiki/Main_Page for more detailed information |
| 14:30.35 | Calliee | based on the behavior it has to be the "play" button |
| 14:30.56 | Calliee | the scan button makes it impossible to use the AH for just about anything else for the duration of the scan |
| 14:31.54 | LeilaMcK | that makes sense. so scanning is simply to update current info for tooltips and bottomscanner? |
| 14:32.02 | Calliee | with the "play" button (btm scanner scan) every time BTM requests a page, the browse tab is updated with the results of the query |
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| 14:32.56 | LeilaMcK | ok so stopping the "play" buttom of bottomscanner should allow me to search/browse for specific items when needed? |
| 14:33.05 | Luke1410_ | right |
| 14:33.05 | Calliee | the scan button (found on the browse tab) is used to up[date the main database |
| 14:33.20 | LeilaMcK | gotcha..thanks a lot this helps with that question a lot |
| 14:33.46 | Calliee | btm scan (the play button) is used to periodically look at the last page of the auction house to see if anyones listed a deal |
| 14:33.54 | LeilaMcK | ok |
| 14:34.22 | LeilaMcK | so how do you best utilize bottom scanner? the popups don't seem to be accurately suggesting good resell items |
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| 14:34.54 | Calliee | first off you need a good main database to work with |
| 14:35.00 | LeilaMcK | and i'm not sure i'm getting disenchant info with my tooltip at all... maybe i don't have entrantrix loaded right or defaulted to on? |
| 14:35.12 | CIA-19 | auctioneer: 03luke1410 074.0 * r1586 10auctioneer/AucCommand.lua: |
| 14:35.12 | CIA-19 | auctioneer: code layout changes |
| 14:35.12 | CIA-19 | auctioneer: split up the local function definitions to separate lines to make it easier to read |
| 14:35.15 | LeilaMcK | ok ... several weeks of scans you think calliee? |
| 14:35.23 | Calliee | if you're using the current release version 4.0 enchantrix was not included |
| 14:35.41 | Calliee | yeah, a couple weeks of daily scans ought to give a good baseline |
| 14:35.59 | LeilaMcK | so then the suggested popups from BS should be more accurate? |
| 14:36.13 | Calliee | yup |
| 14:36.21 | LeilaMcK | thank you so much both of you |
| 14:36.33 | Calliee | I'd also take some time with the wiki and configure a custom baserule |
| 14:36.37 | LeilaMcK | luke the last few lines, was i supposed to do something with that info? |
| 14:36.45 | Calliee | that can make the pop-ups even more accurate |
| 14:36.54 | LeilaMcK | yea i'm still trying to understand baserules..this is all new to me but really fascinating |
| 14:37.17 | LeilaMcK | my husband teaches economics but doesn't play wow... i play wow but don't know a thing about economics lol |
| 14:37.21 | LeilaMcK | just trying to learn |
| 14:37.23 | Calliee | the CIA stuff was just letting the lurkers in the channel know that he made a change to the code |
| 14:37.39 | LeilaMcK | lurkers? |
| 14:38.07 | Calliee | most of the people here just sit idle all day (lurk) then read the backlog later to see if there's anything new |
| 14:38.26 | LeilaMcK | i guess i just need to know how to set up a very basic baserule list |
| 14:38.49 | LeilaMcK | i do find auctioneer helpful in listing items i loot when i don't have any idea how to price them |
| 14:38.51 | LeilaMcK | i love that feature |
| 14:39.14 | Calliee | and that's the main reason to keep your database updated ;) |
| 14:39.22 | LeilaMcK | so basically the take home message here is that i should continue to scan daily for a few weeks before really relying on BS to give me any reliable data? |
| 14:39.24 | Calliee | you'll get a better idea of what things sell for |
| 14:39.31 | Calliee | yup |
| 14:39.56 | LeilaMcK | and hopefully the baserule stuff will come later. any specific beginner baserule things i should set? |
| 14:40.17 | CIA-19 | auctioneer: 03luke1410 074.0 * r1587 10auctioneer/AucCommand.lua: |
| 14:40.17 | CIA-19 | auctioneer: code layout changes |
| 14:40.17 | CIA-19 | auctioneer: Renamed the chatprint variable to khaosCommand, since this does more likely reflect what it represents. |
| 14:40.29 | Calliee | the default one is ok, and will make you money |
| 14:40.45 | LeilaMcK | you guys have been great! guess i'm off to play for a bit. this has been very helpful! |
| 14:40.51 | Calliee | the wiki (and our forums) have lots of helpful information about it |
| 14:41.12 | LeilaMcK | i noticed that i can read the forums but there is no link to post.... am i missing something? |
| 14:41.22 | LeilaMcK | also can you give me the wiki link again? |
| 14:41.48 | Calliee | http://norganna.org/wiki/Main_Page |
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| 14:42.53 | LeilaMcK | well thanks again! |
| 14:49.25 | Calliee | no problem :) |
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| 15:05.11 | ezee | hello all...is there a way to use reports or auctioneer data files to see what items have the highest VOLUME of sales on my server? |
| 15:06.02 | Luke1410_ | no, reports and things like that are not included in Auctioneer atm |
| 15:06.36 | ezee | Luke1410_: does it have a data file I can open in excel (like a .csv) so I can make my own? |
| 15:07.06 | Luke1410_ | the datafile is located in ur WoW-SavedVariables folder and is in lua. |
| 15:08.02 | Luke1410_ | But there is no converter i'd know of to convert this data into csv or anything like that, so u might have to write one on ur own. |
| 15:08.11 | ezee | i see |
| 15:09.03 | ezee | Luke1410_: the data file is the scan snapshot? |
| 15:10.07 | ezee | yeah it opens in notepad |
| 15:10.32 | ezee | but its not my most recent scan |
| 15:11.31 | ezee | why is that i wonder |
| 15:11.55 | Calliee | have you exited wow or done a /console reloadui? |
| 15:12.27 | Luke1410_ | scan snapshot contains only the info of ur last ah scan. HistoricalData is what u probably want |
| 15:13.09 | ezee | Calliee: have you exited wow or done a /console reloadui?<<<no i have not |
| 15:13.23 | Calliee | that's why it's not your most recent then |
| 15:13.39 | Calliee | the .lua system only allows us to save to file on exit or reload |
| 15:13.53 | Calliee | the most recent is held in memory |
| 15:14.06 | ezee | i dont have a HistoricalData anywhere |
| 15:14.30 | ezee | Luke1410_: HistoricalData is what u probably want<<no can find HistoricalData |
| 15:14.31 | Calliee | it's in the same file, further down past he snapshots |
| 15:14.41 | Calliee | *the |
| 15:15.22 | Luke1410_ | the db is called: AuctioneerHistoryDB |
| 15:18.10 | ezee | Luke1410_: acutally "AucHistoryDB" but found it htanks |
| 15:22.05 | ezee | im really just looking for a way to find the most traded items, but on my server particularly |
| 15:22.47 | ezee | http://www.woweconomy.com/MostTraded.aspx is good but its not server specific its "World SErver" |
| 15:28.25 | ezee | any advice? is that info accurate http://www.woweconomy.com/MostTraded.aspx |
| 15:32.12 | Luke1410_ | sry, can't tell since i don't know how woweconomy works |
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| 16:07.11 | ezee | hey ahnyone here use gatherer? |
| 16:08.09 | ezee | ezee: im wondering how to use the LUA file you download from the norganna site |
| 16:08.16 | ezee | for gatherer |
| 16:13.50 | ezee | ? |
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| 16:17.50 | BigRedBrent | hello |
| 16:18.09 | BigRedBrent | it is just me or does gather some times not mark your nodes when you gather them |
| 16:18.46 | BigRedBrent | anyone in here |
| 16:19.15 | Luke1410_ | yeah, but not associated with gatherer, sorry :) |
| 16:19.30 | BigRedBrent | how so |
| 16:19.58 | Calliee | many of us just work on auctioneer |
| 16:20.06 | Calliee | some of the others work on gatherer |
| 16:20.30 | BigRedBrent | oh, auctioneer is cool and all, I like gatherer more though |
| 16:21.01 | BigRedBrent | I mean it is more useful to me, but auctioneer has its uses as well |
| 16:21.13 | Calliee | hehe understandable |
| 16:21.29 | Calliee | I use gather as well as auctioneer, but I nly code/understand auctioneer |
| 16:21.37 | Calliee | *only |
| 16:22.09 | BigRedBrent | i see |
| 16:22.14 | BigRedBrent | I used to code for an addon that was about the only addon I understood untill blizzard broke it, :P |
| 16:22.24 | Calliee | lol |
| 16:22.37 | BigRedBrent | ever hear of Zorlen |
| 16:22.44 | CIA-19 | auctioneer: 03luke1410 074.0 * r1588 10auctioneer/AucAskPrice.lua: |
| 16:22.45 | CIA-19 | auctioneer: code layout changes |
| 16:22.45 | CIA-19 | auctioneer: Also renamed the chatprint variable to khaosCommand in AucAskPrice, since this does more likely reflect what it represents. Additional some whitespaces were fixed. |
| 16:22.45 | BigRedBrent | I will dearly miss it |
| 16:23.28 | Calliee | can't say that I ever ran across it, what did it do? |
| 16:23.51 | BigRedBrent | it added a lot of macro helping functions |
| 16:24.25 | Calliee | I can see where Wow 2.0 would really screw it up then |
| 16:24.25 | BigRedBrent | it was getting very advanced the more I would work on it, I even added a gui close to the time blizzard had broken it |
| 16:26.09 | BigRedBrent | it was mostly used by hunters at first, but I took over the development when the original author left and I started adding a lot more useful funtions for other classes and many more useful funtions all around |
| 16:27.05 | BigRedBrent | I think blizzad broke them because people like me was makeing some functions way to advanced, :P |
| 16:27.46 | Calliee | Blizz is rather sensitive to people relying on macros too much and not playing the game |
| 16:27.53 | BigRedBrent | I had it set up so that I could press one button to cast all my spells on at least two classes |
| 16:27.54 | CIA-19 | auctioneer: 03luke1410 074.0 * r1589 10auctioneer/AucAskPrice.lua: (fixes #928) If khaos was installed settings for askprice might not be loaded properly throughout sessions. This has been fixed. |
| 16:28.44 | BigRedBrent | But that can be fun for many people, others may think otherwise, but still it was fun |
| 16:29.42 | Calliee | I thought I was going to be in trouble when CastAway broke with WoW 2.0 |
| 16:30.06 | Calliee | I used that one for every toon I have to save button space |
| 16:30.16 | BigRedBrent | like a macro to cast all of your warlock dots in the order that you like was priceless, warlock dots are a pain in the ass to keep up in the correct order, :P |
| 16:30.23 | Calliee | (allowed you to asign a sequence of spells to a single button) |
| 16:31.06 | Calliee | but the BlizzUI replacement castsequence is more powerful than castaway, once you figure out how to configure it |
| 16:31.42 | BigRedBrent | I even got around the recasting of things like immolate, I added a delay that would check to see if the spell failed or not, it did not interfear with normal casting at all, it was perfect, :P |
| 16:32.41 | BigRedBrent | castsequence is ok I guess, but it is rather stupid when it comes to knowing if a debuff it up or not |
| 16:33.07 | Calliee | that's the way Blizz wants it |
| 16:33.24 | Calliee | the mod should never make the decision of what to cast, that's the player's job |
| 16:33.31 | BigRedBrent | yeah, it still don't make it suck any less, :P |
| 16:34.16 | BigRedBrent | a lot of people don;t like to play games where they got to press so many buttons and pay atention to more then a ferw things at once, :P |
| 16:35.25 | BigRedBrent | I mean I can handle this more then most and I still think it sucks to do, others have a lot more dificulty then I |
| 16:36.24 | BigRedBrent | I mean some classes are easy, nut others like warlocks are a lot more dificult |
| 16:36.47 | BigRedBrent | oh I was wondering if you knew something about a macro I am trying to fix |
| 16:37.21 | BigRedBrent | it seams to cast some spells fine but others that have something like (Bear) at the end of the spell name do not cast |
| 16:37.47 | BigRedBrent | or like Fery Fire(Feral) |
| 16:38.17 | BigRedBrent | they do not cast for some reason, I was wondering if this was a known bug or there is a way to fix it? |
| 16:39.39 | BigRedBrent | I mean like /cast Faerie Fire (Feral) will not cast on my druid |
| 16:40.07 | BigRedBrent | but all the other spells without the () in the name will |
| 16:40.24 | Calliee | does it cast if you leave out the () ? |
| 16:40.40 | BigRedBrent | but any spell that requires () in the name will not cast in a macro |
| 16:40.47 | BigRedBrent | the () is required |
| 16:41.02 | BigRedBrent | it is part of the spell name, and I have tried without just to see |
| 16:41.33 | BigRedBrent | well druid or not any spell that requires () in the spell name does not seam to work |
| 16:42.04 | BigRedBrent | I also can not get /cast Wing Clip to work at all |
| 16:42.17 | BigRedBrent | on a hunter |
| 16:42.39 | BigRedBrent | maybee they are bugs that have just gone overlooked or something |
| 16:42.55 | Calliee | ok, 1 sec, I do have a hunter |
| 16:43.13 | Calliee | are you leaving a space between the spell name and the () ? |
| 16:43.21 | BigRedBrent | ok, are you going to check the wing clip thing? |
| 16:44.37 | BigRedBrent | what realm is your hunter on by the way |
| 16:44.48 | Calliee | Thorium Brotherhood |
| 16:44.49 | Cera | better yet, are you shift clicking the spell in the spell book |
| 16:45.13 | BigRedBrent | yes I always shift click it in the same way to place the names for all the spells in my macros |
| 16:45.36 | BigRedBrent | works perfect for all the other spells in the game |
| 16:46.40 | Calliee | Wing Clip works for me |
| 16:46.51 | Calliee | I typed /cast Wing Clip |
| 16:46.54 | Calliee | and it did |
| 16:47.14 | BigRedBrent | ok I just tested wing clip, let me see something |
| 16:47.55 | BigRedBrent | #showtooltip |
| 16:48.04 | BigRedBrent | try that macro and see if that works |
| 16:48.11 | BigRedBrent | #showtooltip |
| 16:48.26 | BigRedBrent | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.36 | BigRedBrent | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.42 | BigRedBrent | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.50 | BigRedBrent | without the \ |
| 16:49.04 | BigRedBrent | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:49.11 | Calliee | that macro will fail |
| 16:49.11 | BigRedBrent | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:49.19 | BigRedBrent | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:49.24 | BigRedBrent | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:49.27 | Calliee | you need to be using castsequence to do that |
| 16:49.31 | BigRedBrent | why would it fail |
| 16:49.34 | Cera | yep |
| 16:49.52 | BigRedBrent | it cast all the spells correctly but wing clip |
| 16:49.58 | Calliee | there's a built in delay to *every* spell to prevent just what you're trying to do |
| 16:49.58 | BigRedBrent | in that macro |
| 16:50.13 | Cera | only 1 true cast per macro |
| 16:50.25 | Calliee | right because you're still on the delay from the first cast |
| 16:50.28 | Cera | only mongoose should ever cast in that |
| 16:50.39 | Calliee | by the time you get to the 3rd the delay is over, so it casts |
| 16:50.39 | BigRedBrent | I been playing a long time and useing macros for a very long time, everything you are telling me I know and have told others just like you are telling me |
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| 16:51.21 | BigRedBrent | it is a spam macro and it should work fine if you keep pressing it |
| 16:51.24 | Cera | not everything obviously... |
| 16:51.29 | BigRedBrent | even with the new restrictions |
| 16:51.37 | Calliee | go here: |
| 16:51.39 | Calliee | http://borkweb.com/story/world-of-warcraft-20-macros#section-13 |
| 16:51.57 | Calliee | that should help you get what you need working |
| 16:53.28 | BigRedBrent | ok let me test the macro, I have not tested it since the last patch since the hunter problem is not what I was dealing with, the druid one was |
| 16:54.10 | BigRedBrent | I mean I know for a fact the hunter one should work |
| 16:55.02 | Cera | no, no it should not |
| 16:55.10 | Calliee | it should fail miserably |
| 16:55.59 | Cera | mongoose bite should try to cast every time and prevent the rest |
| 16:56.08 | BigRedBrent | ok you do not seam to understand why it should work |
| 16:56.31 | Cera | you do not seem to understand why it should fail |
| 16:56.58 | Cera | the whole point of the macro changes were to prevent stuff like that |
| 16:57.00 | BigRedBrent | ahhh, ok, I understand why you think that, I mean I do |
| 16:57.42 | BigRedBrent | and the pont of the macro was not to prevent spam of spells in the order that I am showing you |
| 16:57.52 | BigRedBrent | I mean the point of the update |
| 16:58.35 | Calliee | even so, they *Gave* you the tools to create a macro to fire those 3 spells one right after another |
| 16:58.36 | BigRedBrent | the reason being is that if a spell does not trigger the clobal cool down the next spell in the macro should cast |
| 16:58.40 | Cera | partly it was |
| 16:58.51 | BigRedBrent | global I mean |
| 16:59.09 | Calliee | that is correct, however, ALL of those spells trigger the global cooldown |
| 16:59.16 | BigRedBrent | not correct |
| 16:59.28 | BigRedBrent | only when they cast they trigger the global cool down |
| 16:59.44 | BigRedBrent | and does the first one always cast, you have a hunter? |
| 16:59.47 | Cera | they don't want you to be able to cast something like mongoose bite, disarm, execute, etc. if they're up but otherwise do other junk |
| 16:59.54 | Calliee | you are correct, some do not, like petattack, that is a true instant, so I can cast paetattack and hunters mark in 1 macro with 1 button press |
| 17:00.40 | BigRedBrent | ok I completly understand all of this, I am trying to figure out why one spell follows what I am saying while another does not |
| 17:00.48 | Calliee | yes, I have a *ranged* hunter, I never use those spells |
| 17:00.56 | BigRedBrent | you see wing clip does not cast in my macro, but the last spell does |
| 17:01.01 | Cera | even though monggose bite may not be up, it still TRIES to cast and stops the rest of the macro |
| 17:01.20 | Cera | the restriction isn't on actual casting , it's of TRYING to cast |
| 17:01.26 | Calliee | it really doesn't matter why, that macro goes against all of the rules Blizz is trying to set up for macros |
| 17:01.36 | Cera | the ui will only attempt to cast a single spell per macro |
| 17:02.04 | Calliee | please look at the link I put up earlier, it outlines everything for you |
| 17:02.37 | BigRedBrent | I guess it seams they may have added more restrictions then they originaly said they would |
| 17:03.05 | Cera | the reason raptor strike goes through is most likely because it is a "next swing" spell and doesn't actually trigger the global cooldown |
| 17:03.27 | BigRedBrent | but then again I have a druid macro that cast every spell in a very long macro, all but two that use () in the spell name |
| 17:04.42 | Calliee | really don't kjnow how you accomplished that without some sort of hack |
| 17:04.58 | BigRedBrent | well no hacks for sure |
| 17:05.09 | BigRedBrent | let me get the macro, one sec |
| 17:08.02 | BigRedBrent | I am thinking you may be correct about this, but I very much did not think they would take it this far |
| 17:08.37 | BigRedBrent | I mena the normal /cast maro system is very limited anyway, why limit it any further |
| 17:09.05 | Calliee | have you played with it at all since 2.0 came out last year? |
| 17:09.46 | Calliee | they re-enforced the 1 spell per cast limitation, but broadedned the options for deciding *wich* spell to cast, and on wich target |
| 17:09.58 | BigRedBrent | if a global cool down is not triggered I see no reason why they should prevent the next spell in a list from casting, I guess they have prevented it, but I still think they should not |
| 17:10.25 | Calliee | you are correct, if global cooldown is not triggered, the next spell will cast |
| 17:10.49 | Calliee | but there are very few spells that do not trigger a global cooldown |
| 17:10.51 | BigRedBrent | yes but I am finding out that the next spell is not being cast if the global cool down is not triggere |
| 17:10.53 | BigRedBrent | d |
| 17:11.46 | BigRedBrent | wait I have a macro that proves otherwise, this is very confuseing |
| 17:12.04 | BigRedBrent | I mean for a fact proves that what I am trying to do should work |
| 17:12.18 | Calliee | I know what you are trying to do |
| 17:12.25 | Calliee | and it won't work |
| 17:12.40 | Calliee | yes sometimes a spell will not cast and you'll move on to the next |
| 17:12.58 | BigRedBrent | #showtooltip[next line]/cast Growl[next line]/cast Mangle (Bear)[next line]/cast Faerie Fire (Feral)[next line]/cast Lacerate[next line]/cast Maul |
| 17:13.03 | Calliee | but they should all be triggering the global cooldown even on a failed cast |
| 17:13.14 | BigRedBrent | ok this works perfectly but does not cast the spells that have () in them |
| 17:13.17 | Calliee | the fact that your macros work at all indicated bugs on Blizzards end |
| 17:13.30 | Calliee | *indicates |
| 17:14.06 | Calliee | I can't help you debug a macro that should not be working |
| 17:14.20 | BigRedBrent | no if they are allowing spells in a row to cast if all other spells in front of it do not trigger global cool downs then my macros should be 100% legit |
| 17:14.46 | Calliee | ok, you're not listening to me |
| 17:14.59 | BigRedBrent | if the last thing I said was true then everything thus far I have said it 100% true |
| 17:15.25 | BigRedBrent | is |
| 17:15.27 | BigRedBrent | :P |
| 17:15.41 | Calliee | ok, let's try this again, see if you can follow along. |
| 17:16.11 | BigRedBrent | omg, sounds like me talking to someone else who visited my developer web sight before the last patch |
| 17:16.27 | Calliee | every spell in the game, save a very select few *should* be triggering a global cooldown on a successful cast, as well as a failed cast |
| 17:16.38 | BigRedBrent | why do they trigger on a failed cast? |
| 17:16.41 | Calliee | the fact that they don't seem to be is a bug |
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| 17:17.29 | Calliee | I can't help you make your macro work, because it should not be working at all |
| 17:18.32 | BigRedBrent | ok I need to find out about this global cool down on failed cast thing, if this is true then you are correct, but if not, and my god I hope not then I will be happy once more |
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| 17:20.43 | BigRedBrent | I know all about /castsequence as well, i use it on my warlock often, :P |
| 17:21.10 | BigRedBrent | it is just that some spells do not work well that way and require spam |
| 17:21.34 | Calliee | now, about your original question try putting the spell with the () into a propper castsequence macro and see if it works |
| 17:21.57 | BigRedBrent | I will, I thought I already had, :P |
| 17:23.38 | BigRedBrent | ok alone /cast Mangle (Bear) this does not work, also alone /cast Mangle this does not work |
| 17:23.46 | BigRedBrent | I would think this is a bug |
| 17:23.50 | BigRedBrent | at the very least |
| 17:24.11 | Calliee | take out the space |
| 17:24.23 | Calliee | the format is /cast Mangle(Bear) |
| 17:24.48 | BigRedBrent | also alone /cast Mangle(Bear) this does not work |
| 17:24.59 | BigRedBrent | and the format is correctly /cast Mangle (Bear) |
| 17:25.09 | BigRedBrent | that is useing shift click |
| 17:25.13 | Calliee | it should be just like the spell level format |
| 17:25.19 | Calliee | no space |
| 17:25.32 | BigRedBrent | it has a space in the spell name itself |
| 17:26.01 | BigRedBrent | and at any point I have tried every format I could think of and it does not work |
| 17:26.25 | Calliee | then congradulations, you've found a bug |
| 17:26.41 | BigRedBrent | i triesd all of this at one point and it failed in the past, I tried it now just to confirm it |
| 17:27.27 | BigRedBrent | what I do not know is why some spells seam to trigger a global cool down even if they do not cast and others do not? |
| 17:27.46 | BigRedBrent | I do not understand this |
| 17:27.52 | Calliee | because Blizz is trying to stop people from doing exactly what you are trying to do |
| 17:29.05 | Calliee | Spam macroing |
| 17:29.05 | BigRedBrent | i mean none of my druid spells (that work anyway) trigger a global cool down on fail, but the hunter spells that do not cast seam to |
| 17:29.25 | Calliee | again, I'm not going to help you figure out a macro that is against Bliz macro rules |
| 17:29.55 | BigRedBrent | I would like to find out from blizzard themselves, they do not have anything againsed spam macroing, it is spam macroing with inteligence they do not like, they have said this many times and have even shown this with the caastsequence function |
| 17:30.02 | Calliee | If you want help converting to something that conforms to the rules I'd be happy to point you in the direction of help |
| 17:30.20 | BigRedBrent | I will not argue this any further though, i do not need a lecture on blizzards stances, I know then far to well |
| 17:30.38 | BigRedBrent | them |
| 17:30.40 | BigRedBrent | :P\ |
| 17:32.18 | BigRedBrent | I already know how to make macros that conform to blizzards standars, I will not require help with that, I was only wondering if some spells was bugged in some way, I think I have found what I need in that reguard |
| 17:33.59 | BigRedBrent | I do have a feeling of wanting to talk to a blizzard developer to confirm exactly what they intended to do with spells that do not cast, just to find out if they intended non casting spells to break list of spells |
| 17:34.38 | Calliee | good luck with that |
| 17:35.08 | BigRedBrent | I mean this is the first I have ever heared of such a thing, and I have read a lot about what they intend for macros |
| 17:35.48 | BigRedBrent | maybe I missed something about failed casts triggering a macro cool down |
| 17:36.51 | BigRedBrent | but then again everything I have read thus far has shown blizzard has absolutly no problem with a spell casting instead of one in front of it that failed to cast |
| 17:37.32 | BigRedBrent | unless blizzard has chainged there mind I would not jump to any conclusions |
| 17:38.12 | Calliee | ok, I'm sorry, but as you don't seem to be taking my hints: You're really pushing my buttons here and I would like this discussion to have ended quite some time ago |
| 17:39.01 | BigRedBrent | i will bring this to the ui forums, sorry for that rant, and button pushing, not intended by any means, i more then likly will not return anyway, :P |
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| 18:13.26 | H-Compiler | Hey there. How would you guys say this AddOn compairs to WoWEcon's auction house modifacations? |
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| 18:32.59 | Ahrim | Hello, quick question, why does enchantrix not show DE for items more than like 5 levels above me? |
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| 20:41.50 | Magasabi | Greetings - I have an easy question. Do all toons share the database? i.e. Could I keep a banker at the AH to scan and not have to worry about the stats for my main? |
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| 20:48.14 | SeeD_0055 | Any quick syntax to delete all saved variables? Or do I have to delete them manually. Would like to start over. |
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| 20:49.39 | SeeD_0055 | If anyone answered that I missed it x3 |
| 20:49.49 | SeeD_0055 | Otherwise I'll be lurking |
| 20:50.52 | Bleeter | SeeD_0055: /auc clear all |
| 20:52.32 | SeeD_0055 | Hey... appriciate it. |
| 20:52.42 | SeeD_0055 | Saves me some looking around time |
| 20:53.23 | Bleeter | no probs, you can "/auc help" to get a list of the command line functions. quite a few aren't available in the UI |
| 20:53.46 | Bleeter | also @ http://auctioneeraddon.com/wiki/Auctioneer |
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| 20:58.50 | SeeD_0055 | Cool beans, I suppose that works with Relam specifics too, /auc clear Alliance/horde-server |
| 21:00.05 | SeeD_0055 | I mean, server-alliance/horde |
| 21:01.32 | bleetah | on that above page, follow the slash commands link and look at the statistical section of slash commands. |
| 21:04.22 | SeeD_0055 | Allright. Thanks again. |
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