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| 01:18.21 | Devlish | how come I cant get auctioneer to run? i followed the steps |
| 01:18.58 | Devlish | i type /auctioneer scan and I get the /help for more options, like its not loaded |
| 01:32.04 | MentalPower | ~auctinstall |
| 01:32.09 | purl | If you are having trouble installing, try reading http://norganna.org/wiki/Installing |
| 01:32.49 | Devlish | that is how I installed it |
| 01:33.29 | Devlish | where do I type ~auctinstall |
| 01:35.15 | Devlish | i have even tried getting rid of all addons, installing just auctioneer and it still wont load |
| 01:35.19 | Devlish | none of the commands work |
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| 01:55.59 | MentalPower | Devlish: did you read the page purl linked? |
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| 03:33.44 | Tsukari | Stupid question time! Since I'm sure this has been covered on the forums, I didn't really want to post it there... |
| 03:34.03 | Tsukari | But I couldn't myself find the topic I'm looking for, soo... |
| 03:35.01 | Tsukari | Auctioneer goes "nerrrrr" from time to time and forgets all of my prices. If I recall correctly, that's because some file is filling up. What is a good way to fix/avoid/lessen this problem? |
| 03:35.10 | Tsukari | If any. |
| 03:38.06 | dinesh | ~auctfaq |
| 03:38.07 | purl | The Auctioneer support FAQ can be found at http://norganna.org/discuss/discussion/3266/auctioneer-support-faq/ |
| 03:38.13 | dinesh | read that |
| 03:38.26 | Cera | it should tell you how full your database is every time you login |
| 03:39.02 | Cera | and to prevent it, avoid scanning on multiple servers |
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| 03:44.53 | Calliee | also make sure you're running a recent version |
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| 03:45.11 | Devlish | it still doesnt work |
| 03:45.25 | Calliee | versions prior to 1499 had an error in them that could fill up your SV file *very* quickly |
| 03:45.26 | Devlish | why wont the addon load when I enter the game |
| 03:46.02 | Calliee | Devlish: make sure the checkbox next to auctioneer is checked and not grey |
| 03:46.05 | Devlish | its in the addon folder and I followed the instructions |
| 03:46.24 | Calliee | check this by clicking the addon button on the toon selection screen |
| 03:46.31 | Devlish | they are checked adn they are the only addons I have installed |
| 03:47.00 | Devlish | but /auctioneer doesnt work |
| 03:47.00 | Devlish | have tried load, scan, enable |
| 03:47.52 | Calliee | if they are checked and not grey in the addons list, the commands should be working in game. please verify that |
| 03:48.13 | Devlish | I have and they are not working |
| 03:48.18 | Calliee | (grey means they only load for some of your toons) |
| 03:48.34 | Devlish | how do I tell which toons? |
| 03:48.46 | Calliee | just keep clicking till it turns to a color |
| 03:48.57 | Devlish | ok i try.. brb |
| 03:50.04 | Tsukari | Alright, I'll look into that. Thanks. Never noticed that it tells me how full my data is, but I get a pretty good amount of add-on spam when I log on, so it's very likely I'm just missing it. |
| 03:52.59 | Calliee | ... |
| 03:53.11 | Calliee | I wish I knew if the problem was solved... |
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| 05:26.16 | crucio | hello |
| 05:27.38 | crucio | when is the expected release of a fully funcional auction for BC? |
| 05:27.59 | crucio | *auctioneer |
| 05:29.23 | crucio | ~auctstuff |
| 05:29.34 | purl | I know about the following topics (type one for more info): ~aucdeletesv, ~auctioneerbeta, ~auctioneersvn, ~aucttrac, ~auctdoc, ~auctinstall, ~norgbug <nickname> |
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| 08:21.34 | CIA-19 | auctioneer: 03mentalpower * r1538 10/branches/4.0/: Branching off 4.0 so that work on 4.2 can commence. |
| 08:26.55 | CIA-19 | auctioneer: 03mentalpower * r1539 10/branches/4.0/ (enchantrix/ itemizer/): Removing Itemizer and Enchantrix from the 4.0 release as neither of them is ready. |
| 08:27.47 | CIA-19 | auctioneer: 03mentalpower * r1540 10/branches/4.0/ (auctioneer/ beancounter/ informant/): Changed the Babylonian externals reference to the 4.0 branch. |
| 08:44.59 | CIA-19 | auctioneer: 03mentalpower 074.0 * r1541 10Installer/Auctioneer.nsi: |
| 08:44.59 | CIA-19 | auctioneer: The NSIS installer script has been modified to not have references to Enchantrix |
| 08:44.59 | CIA-19 | auctioneer: or Itemizer. Swatter has also been moved from being always installed to being |
| 08:44.59 | CIA-19 | auctioneer: installed only on Development installs. The script has also been modified to |
| 08:44.59 | CIA-19 | auctioneer: include the new BottomScanner sounds and textures, and to take into account the |
| 08:45.01 | CIA-19 | auctioneer: change in file type for the Auctioneer textures. |
| 09:14.34 | CIA-19 | auctioneer: 03mentalpower 074.0 * r1542 10Installer/Auctioneer.nsi: Small typo in the NSIS script. |
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| 09:15.50 | Chardonnay | good day |
| 09:21.40 | MentalPower | howdy |
| 09:22.23 | *** topic/#norganna by MentalPower -> Auctioneer 4.0 Released! | Gatherer 3.0 still in Gamma | http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl & http://gathereraddon.com/dl | Post bugs on trac or http://norganna.pastey.net/ | Uploads to http://norganna.org/up (if asked) | Vent: talk.norganna.org:4905 | ~auctstuff | #wowi-lounge for general chatter | Patience, my young padawan. |
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| 10:47.16 | Patrik | hhello |
| 10:47.31 | Patrik | do any1 know how to set teh auctioneer to show prices outside of rest places? |
| 10:54.39 | Patrik | hello? |
| 10:54.43 | MentalPower | --/auc load always |
| 10:55.01 | MentalPower | patience is a virtue |
| 11:00.04 | Patrik | i have trieed that.. its not working |
| 11:00.33 | Patrik | when i go into a inn i can see like, item seen 6 times in AH etc etc |
| 11:00.45 | Patrik | but when i leave the in all i see is: Never seen at AH |
| 11:00.50 | Patrik | inn* |
| 11:01.12 | MentalPower | what zone? |
| 11:01.53 | Patrik | Booty bay |
| 11:02.01 | MentalPower | that would be why |
| 11:02.09 | Patrik | ? |
| 11:02.52 | MentalPower | you're in a zone that sports a neutral AH, so you're looking at neutral AH data |
| 11:03.31 | Patrik | okay.. so if i search the neutral AH at booty bay i will see info? |
| 11:03.35 | Patrik | is there a AH in booty bay? |
| 11:04.30 | Patrik | aha i foudn him :) |
| 11:04.39 | Patrik | scanning all now.. lets see if it works |
| 11:06.36 | Patrik | guess it works now but there wasnt very much in store at booty bay AH |
| 11:06.47 | MentalPower | --/auc also home |
| 11:06.52 | Patrik | is there no way i can load global AH lists anywhere? |
| 11:06.54 | Patrik | aha will try |
| 11:07.31 | Patrik | hmm yea that worked.. but i got an uggly interface now... |
| 11:07.47 | Patrik | like >> lots of % etx |
| 11:07.48 | Patrik | etc |
| 11:08.43 | MentalPower | yup, the also command is meant to compare one server's economy to another |
| 11:09.06 | MentalPower | it just so happens to be the only way to see your home faction's AH data while in a neutral zone |
| 11:09.21 | Patrik | ok thx.. one last question: |
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| 11:09.57 | Patrik | hmm got dc |
| 11:10.01 | Patrik | i have 1 more question |
| 11:10.11 | Patrik | wait, let me try something before i ask :) |
| 11:10.43 | Patrik | yea i solved it :) |
| 11:10.47 | Patrik | thanks for all the herlp |
| 11:10.51 | Patrik | GREAT PLUGIN |
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| 13:04.25 | Bishop_1942 | I've noticed Enchantrix is not included with Auctioneer 4.0 (or rather, is an empty folder), is that on purpose? :) |
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| 13:23.39 | jp_0055 | anyone there? |
| 13:28.20 | BankZ | If I do a AH scan on an Alt, do all the toons get access to the data? |
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| 13:46.31 | galdwin | can someone tell me why auctioneer is incompatible in my addons screen |
| 13:46.52 | BankZ | get latest version |
| 13:47.04 | galdwin | got it |
| 13:47.14 | galdwin | 4.0 just downloaded it |
| 13:47.19 | galdwin | extracted it |
| 13:47.44 | galdwin | copied all files to program Files/WoW/Interface/Addons |
| 13:47.51 | galdwin | started WoW |
| 13:48.02 | galdwin | clicked addons |
| 13:48.11 | galdwin | and it show as incompatible |
| 13:49.50 | galdwin | anyone know how to fix |
| 13:51.28 | galdwin | hello anyone here |
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| 13:54.19 | galdwin | anyone here |
| 14:20.44 | dinesh | i very much doubt it shows as incompatible. are you sure it's not "dependency disabled"? if it's incompatible, you're not installing it properly. |
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| 14:48.43 | Brett | Hello |
| 14:48.52 | dinesh | hi |
| 14:49.04 | Brett | The Release Auctioneer is missing Enchantrix |
| 14:49.27 | Brett | Bit of a problem there |
| 14:50.21 | Brett | If you open the folder, it contains one file w/ 0 bytes |
| 14:50.40 | Brett | Someone missed their QA skill check |
| 14:50.43 | Brett | ;> |
| 14:51.16 | Brett | If you look at the SIZE of the 4.0 download compared to the 3.9 download it's quite a bit off |
| 14:52.35 | Brett_4 | any devlopers on? |
| 14:53.19 | Brett_4 | guess not |
| 14:56.55 | dinesh | no, it was purposefully done |
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| 15:13.21 | Shana | is there a channel for general wow scripting ? |
| 15:16.12 | FlAWD | #wowi-lounge |
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| 15:22.03 | Dustwhisper | Need help! Running auctioneer, got this error up that i could "disable or ignore" , ignore didn't work (my portal spells stopped working), i chose disable |
| 15:22.05 | Dustwhisper | it reloaded my UI |
| 15:22.08 | Dustwhisper | after that i cant reload auctioneer |
| 15:22.15 | Dustwhisper | (it's loaded in addons), i cant type /auctioneer |
| 15:22.18 | Dustwhisper | restart of WOW didn't help |
| 15:45.58 | FlAWD | re-enable it in the addons at your character screen |
| 15:46.05 | FlAWD | and if you get that error hit ignore |
| 15:46.22 | FlAWD | if it keeps coming up then theres something wrong with auctioneer and it will be fixed in a future version |
| 17:04.51 | Dustwhisper | doesn't work |
| 17:04.58 | Dustwhisper | already tried re-enabling it |
| 17:05.02 | Dustwhisper | by unticking/ticking it |
| 17:09.05 | Dustwhisper | FlAWD |
| 17:09.08 | Dustwhisper | or anyone else |
| 17:18.01 | BankZ | If I do a AH scan on an Alt, do all the toons get access to the data? |
| 17:34.11 | Malivil | all toons on the same server/account/faction |
| 17:54.26 | Dustwhisper | seriously |
| 17:54.29 | Dustwhisper | not even reinstalling auctioneer |
| 17:54.32 | Dustwhisper | would make it load now |
| 17:54.34 | Dustwhisper | i don't get this at all |
| 17:54.37 | Dustwhisper | neeeed assistance! |
| 18:46.49 | Dustwhisper | Malivil! |
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| 18:55.45 | MadM3rlin | hi |
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| 20:03.52 | Dustwhisper | please someone help! |
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| 20:04.59 | galdwin | can someone help me with auctioneer i can't seem to get it to work on World of warcraft |
| 20:05.31 | galdwin | i dl the newest version 4.0 complete |
| 20:05.42 | galdwin | some of the programs work but not the auctioneer |
| 20:05.58 | Malivil | what doesnt work about it? |
| 20:06.10 | galdwin | nothing |
| 20:06.19 | galdwin | i cant get it to load |
| 20:06.26 | Malivil | Did you go to the auction house? |
| 20:06.49 | galdwin | yes i did |
| 20:07.04 | galdwin | supposively there is to be a scan button |
| 20:07.14 | galdwin | but i didnt see one |
| 20:07.39 | galdwin | in the add ons when u choose your character it says auctioneer is incompatible |
| 20:08.04 | galdwin | i checked the box any ways and also checked the out dated box as well |
| 20:08.18 | Malivil | Are you sure you got the 4.0 and not the 3.8? |
| 20:08.31 | galdwin | ive heard great things about the prouct but it doesnt work |
| 20:08.43 | galdwin | yes i dl it again |
| 20:09.29 | Malivil | The "Incompatible" means that you are trying to use a pre 2.0 addon in a post 2.0 game. That was changed when we released 3.9 and now 4.0 |
| 20:09.43 | galdwin | ok |
| 20:09.52 | galdwin | so that part is normal correct |
| 20:10.24 | galdwin | hell i even uninstalled the game bc i dl it from internet went and bought the disc version |
| 20:10.34 | galdwin | currently installing it now |
| 20:10.52 | Malivil | ok |
| 20:11.05 | galdwin | it just finished |
| 20:11.22 | galdwin | should i copy the auctioneer folder in prior to updating?? |
| 20:11.38 | galdwin | or does it matter |
| 20:12.14 | Malivil | prior to updating... the game? |
| 20:12.27 | Chardonnay | shouldn't matter, but i'd install all the patches first, back the whole thing up somewhere, and then start installing addons... |
| 20:12.31 | galdwin | the game yes |
| 20:12.43 | galdwin | i just did a fresh install of the game |
| 20:12.56 | Malivil | yea, what Chardonnay said |
| 20:13.18 | Malivil | i have to go to work, another dev will be around |
| 20:15.43 | galdwin | ok let me do that and if it doesn't work ill be back i mean it shouldn't be that diffucult just copy the extracted folders !Swatter BeanCounter BtmScan Enchantrix EnhTooltip Informant Auctioneer Stubby to C:\Program files\WoW\Interface\Add ons correct |
| 20:16.43 | Chardonnay | aye |
| 20:17.43 | galdwin | ok well i have to let all these updates dl ty all in advance for the help ive been trying to get this to work for 3 days now bc i have heard great things about it |
| 20:38.13 | Malivil-Work | ~auctinstall |
| 20:38.19 | purl | If you are having trouble installing, try reading http://norganna.org/wiki/Installing |
| 20:38.19 | Malivil-Work | ~aucinstall |
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| 20:46.39 | Dustwhisper | Malivil-Work |
| 20:46.43 | Dustwhisper | my addon wont load anymore at all |
| 20:46.48 | Dustwhisper | IsAddOnLoaded gives nil too |
| 20:46.52 | Dustwhisper | it worked |
| 20:46.58 | Malivil-Work | hmm |
| 20:46.58 | Dustwhisper | i got this disable/ignore crash dialog |
| 20:47.01 | Dustwhisper | ignore didnt help |
| 20:47.04 | Malivil-Work | Riight |
| 20:47.05 | Dustwhisper | i pressed disable |
| 20:47.08 | Dustwhisper | UI reloaded |
| 20:47.12 | Dustwhisper | auctioneer refuses to load again |
| 20:47.16 | Dustwhisper | (it's ticked off as enabled in addons) |
| 20:47.21 | Dustwhisper | i tried reinstalling it |
| 20:47.22 | Dustwhisper | didn't help |
| 20:48.03 | Malivil-Work | what happens when you do /auctioneer load |
| 20:48.04 | Malivil-Work | ? |
| 20:48.17 | Dustwhisper | Type /help for a listing of a few commands. |
| 20:48.23 | Malivil-Work | oo |
| 20:48.32 | Dustwhisper | and ye /dump IsAddOnLoaded("Auctioneer") gives a nice nil |
| 20:48.34 | Dustwhisper | stubby gives 1 |
| 20:48.50 | Malivil-Work | hmm |
| 20:48.53 | Malivil-Work | o crap |
| 20:48.54 | Malivil-Work | im late |
| 20:48.55 | Malivil-Work | i gotta go |
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| 20:49.03 | Dustwhisper | sadface :| |
| 20:49.07 | Dustwhisper | no auctioneer for me then |
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| 20:56.00 | MadM3rlin | hi |
| 20:56.06 | MadM3rlin | is anyone there? |
| 20:56.12 | Dustwhisper | ye |
| 20:56.26 | MadM3rlin | do you know if gatherer uses metamap? |
| 20:56.53 | Dustwhisper | no idea |
| 20:57.25 | MadM3rlin | does anyone know |
| 20:57.28 | MadM3rlin | =\ |
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| 21:01.02 | MadM3rlin | hey guillotene |
| 21:01.14 | MadM3rlin | do you know if gatherer uses metamap |
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| 21:06.38 | galdwin | cool its working just like in your tutorial i havent went to the auction house yet but im on way |
| 21:07.17 | galdwin | i think the difference is because i dl WoW from the net |
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| 21:12.44 | Auctioneer_Noob_ | Sorry to bother all, but I have an Auctioneer Noob question (surprise, surprise): I have done some quick reading/searching, but still don't see this concept 'implicitly expressed'.. Perhaps it is implied somewhere and I am too thick-headed: Are scans/dataaccess available to other characters on the same account/realm/faction, or do I need to scan each one seperately? |
| 21:12.53 | Auctioneer_Noob_ | wow that was long sorry :P |
| 21:14.26 | MadM3rlin | just scan each time you login man |
| 21:14.31 | MadM3rlin | to keep data current |
| 21:14.45 | MadM3rlin | all chars share auctioneer data |
| 21:14.50 | Chardonnay | it's shared on the same realm and faction yep. you need to use the "also" command if you want to share across factions/servers |
| 21:15.06 | MadM3rlin | chardonnaye |
| 21:15.19 | MadM3rlin | do you know anything about using metamap with gatherer |
| 21:15.30 | Auctioneer_Noob_ | good idea.. thanks Mad. AH HA! That's it - they are shared within them.. thank you all ^_^ |
| 21:15.54 | Auctioneer_Noob_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.59 | Chardonnay | nope no idea sorry |
| 21:16.33 | galdwin | hey ty guys after reinstalling WoW your program works great im at AH right now scanning it |
| 21:16.39 | galdwin | ty ty ty |
| 21:29.56 | Incredibull-Nord | Congratulations and thanks to all who have helped bring Auctioneer up to the new release version. I really appreciate it. |
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| 21:45.17 | RLD_osx | what happened to enchantrix. only file it has in it is nopatch and disenchant possibilities are not shown anymore. |
| 21:46.06 | bleetah | enchantrix wasn't released in Auctioneer Complete 4.0, as we're doing a complete re-write |
| 21:47.09 | RLD_osx | will the 2/22/07 release of enchantrix still work? |
| 21:48.20 | Incredibull-Nord | Completely rewriting Enchantrix, eh? Good luck with that, it is a wonderful program mod. |
| 21:48.57 | bleetah | RLD_osx: the beta/alpha will work, it's just not suitable for 'release' |
| 21:49.09 | bleetah | hence it's not in the 'release' of auctioneercomplete |
| 21:49.24 | bleetah | what you're seeing on that page are the last death throws of the old version |
| 21:49.53 | Incredibull-Nord | Is there any utility available to help reduce the size of the database file, when it is getting close to exceeding the size limit? |
| 21:50.39 | RLD_osx | lol.... never seemed to have an issue with it. |
| 21:50.51 | Incredibull-Nord | It would be nice for me, if there was a simple way to remove data from specific realm-faction combinations |
| 21:52.06 | Incredibull-Nord | When I first began playing WoW I set up alts on at least 6 servers, and on many I scanned the AH on both factions |
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| 21:53.13 | Chardonnay | i don't think there is, but you could edit your savedvariables files manually (back em up first :) |
| 21:53.56 | bleetah | we're also looking at a complete re-write of auctioneer, that'll help alleviate those pesky DB size issues |
| 21:54.27 | bleetah | (amongst a pile of other legitimate reasons) |
| 21:55.44 | Incredibull-Nord | Is there available some info on how the data is represented/sorted within the db? I haven't attempted looking at it with a basic text viewer/editor. I expect it is stored in a more binary form, so haven't tried |
| 21:56.22 | Dustwhisper | bleetah could you please help me =) |
| 21:56.27 | Dustwhisper | i'm having super-issues with auctioneer |
| 21:56.37 | bleetah | Incredibull-Nord: it's a straight save of the memory structures of the tables inside WoW, just like any other mod. it's all text files:) |
| 21:57.14 | Chardonnay | it's text. you'll see the big databases AuctioneerSnapshotDB and AuctioneerHistoryDB, each containing big tables for each realm/faction |
| 21:58.12 | bleetah | Dustwhisper: auctioneer's appearing in the AddOn menu (on the char selection screen, press the 'Addon' button in the lower left) |
| 21:58.35 | bleetah | (and is not showing dependency errors, etc. etc.)? |
| 22:00.23 | Incredibull-Nord | Thanks, Bleetah, I'll give it a look then. I used to be a half decent program back in the days before C became the language of choice... thanks to Chardonnay as well for the info. It is encouraging, I may be able to cut out whole sections dealing with no longer used realms. |
| 22:01.36 | bleetah | Incredibull-Nord: our current implementation, combined with some of the way that WoW does stuff, makes it hard to have an internal tool that'd do that. Hopefully this'll be the sort of thing the re-write will fix ;) |
| 22:01.55 | bleetah | no ETA on when we'll have it happening tho :-D |
| 22:02.13 | Incredibull-Nord | Is there a freeware or open source text editor that would be an excellent choice for working on a file that approaches 16 MB in size? |
| 22:03.38 | Chardonnay | in windows, notepad will struggle with files that large but wordpad should work ok |
| 22:03.38 | bleetah | notepad++ http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/ (for Win32 systems) |
| 22:04.01 | Dustwhisper | yes it is bleetah |
| 22:04.03 | Dustwhisper | it's showing |
| 22:04.07 | Dustwhisper | and it's ticked off for enabled |
| 22:04.17 | Dustwhisper | there seems to be no visible errors (buggrabber or something might take it) |
| 22:04.26 | Incredibull-Nord | Notepad will freak out, obviously. Notepad++ though, should do the trick? Thanks. Much appreciated, the help and all the effort put in by folks on Auctioneer and the other mods in the complete p0ackage. |
| 22:04.52 | Dustwhisper | textpad32 > notepad++ |
| 22:05.21 | bleetah | Dustwhisper: hmm, you've got otheraddons installed.. try disabling *everything* 'cept for the auctioneer set, and see if it works. if so, there's some conflict going on |
| 22:05.48 | Dustwhisper | hmm |
| 22:05.48 | Dustwhisper | thing is |
| 22:05.50 | Dustwhisper | it DID work |
| 22:05.54 | Dustwhisper | before it crashed |
| 22:06.02 | Dustwhisper | before i got the whole "Disable/Ignore" dialog |
| 22:06.07 | Dustwhisper | that reset my ui/game |
| 22:06.42 | bleetah | oooh, you had a crash? sorry, I looked back through the chatlog when you said 'I have a problem' to identify what the prob may be. when i saw 'don't work' I figured we'd start at the start of identifying a cause |
| 22:06.43 | Incredibull-Nord | Oh, btw, I keep Itemizer disabled, as it shows as not working. Will it be worked on in the near future? I can't say that I notice it's absence, really, not sure what it contributed before... |
| 22:07.08 | Chardonnay | dust, have you tried resetting your savedvariables (back them up somewhere first). if the game crashed they could be all messed up |
| 22:07.10 | Dustwhisper | nono |
| 22:07.12 | Dustwhisper | it worked brilliantly |
| 22:07.17 | Dustwhisper | until the whole "Disable/Ignore" dialog |
| 22:07.23 | Dustwhisper | which i never saw before i installed auctioneer |
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| 22:07.42 | Dustwhisper | which happened when i tried using a portal spell or something |
| 22:08.05 | bleetah | right, so it's some kinda conflict then. further, what was mentioned about backed up SV's. |
| 22:08.31 | Dustwhisper | backed up SVs? |
| 22:08.40 | Dustwhisper | but what kind of conflict |
| 22:08.41 | Dustwhisper | it worked fine |
| 22:09.34 | Dustwhisper | just want it reenabled |
| 22:09.35 | Dustwhisper | so it loads |
| 22:10.16 | Chicken` | Good evening. I just upgraded to v4.0 and I'm having a huge problem with EnhToolTip attempting to index 'vendbuy' which is a nil value. The end result is as I mouse over items I get an impressive flow of errors in my chat box. Is this a known issue? |
| 22:13.40 | RLD_osx | looks like prices on AH are starting to lvl out. just got the Braxxis Staff for 21g. |
| 22:13.55 | bleetah | Dustwhisper: so what you're saying, is that your WoW did the 'ignore/disable', then crashed out.. and even though you've got it 'enabled' in the addons dialog, now when you login it doesn't work at all and you don't get an 'ignore/disable' dialog. if so, that almost sounds like the saved variables have been destroyed. logout of wow, move the auctioneer to a safe location for backup purposes, try logging in again. |
| 22:14.49 | bleetah | Chicken`: works fine for me. sounds like it might be a conflict with another mod. do you have other mods enabled when the error is thrown? when you disable all but the auctioneer mods does the error still occur? can you slowly re-enable the other mods and identify which may be causing a conflict? |
| 22:15.40 | Chicken` | bleetah: Standby, I'd be happy to test |
| 22:16.53 | Chicken` | bleetah: I get the error with just Auctioneer/EnhToolTip/Stubby |
| 22:18.17 | bleetah | Chicken`: odd.. hmm, could you try moving your EnhTooltip SV out to a safe location, or better still all the auc/stub/enhtt SV's out, and try again, please? |
| 22:19.23 | Chicken` | Sure, one sec. |
| 22:20.59 | Chicken` | EnhToolTip doesn't appear to have any SVs but the other two do. Let me relog now. |
| 22:22.05 | bleetah | Chicken`: you may also wish to install/enable !swatter from the AuctioneerComplete pack, it's a debug monitor thing we're written tha should put the error into a frame from where the text can be copied for posting either to pastey or a bug report |
| 22:23.16 | Chicken` | Alright. I'm still getting the error again. Let me install swatter from the installer and see if I can get you guys a paste. |
| 22:24.07 | bleetah | i'm gunna have to go afk real soon, hopefully another dev /helper can continue assisting |
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| 22:25.22 | Chicken` | Alright, where should I paste this |
| 22:25.50 | Chicken` | Found it. |
| 22:26.11 | bleetah | http://norganna.pastey.net |
| 22:26.18 | bleetah | and post the resultant URL here |
| 22:26.57 | Chicken` | http://norganna.pastey.net/7556-h5np |
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| 22:28.42 | bleetah | ahh,,, hmm.. looks like some info is missing from the release. i'll have to chase up a senior dev to see what the story is. |
| 22:29.10 | Dustwhisper | bleetah |
| 22:29.11 | Dustwhisper | yea |
| 22:29.14 | Dustwhisper | that's about right |
| 22:29.17 | Dustwhisper | except for the game never crashed |
| 22:29.21 | Dustwhisper | after the ignore/disable |
| 22:29.22 | Dustwhisper | and i disabled |
| 22:29.25 | Dustwhisper | and it reset my UI |
| 22:29.27 | Dustwhisper | auctioneer was gone |
| 22:29.30 | Dustwhisper | so i restarted wow |
| 22:29.30 | bleetah | Chicken`: did you install from the exe? the report I've seen would lead me suspect that the .zip file is fine, and the .exe is faulty. |
| 22:29.31 | Dustwhisper | still gone |
| 22:29.36 | Dustwhisper | i've tried deleting auctioneer |
| 22:29.38 | Dustwhisper | logging inn |
| 22:29.41 | Dustwhisper | and reinstalling auctioneer |
| 22:29.42 | Dustwhisper | didnt help |
| 22:29.48 | Chicken` | bleetah: I'd be happy to install from the zip and possibly compare files that would be mismatched if it will help. |
| 22:30.08 | bleetah | the report I've seen indicates that the .exe is missing the prices for informant.. oops ;) |
| 22:30.20 | Chicken` | bleetah: Standby I'll see what I can find :D |
| 22:30.30 | Chardonnay | i think the data it's looking for there comes from Informant\Data\InfPrices.lua |
| 22:30.34 | Dustwhisper | maybe i should try auctioneer 4.0 |
| 22:30.34 | bleetah | as the .exe is created by a script on the build system, and I can't change that script (not high enough privs), I'm gunna have to chace this a little |
| 22:30.54 | bleetah | Dustwhisper: erm, you *weren't* using 4.0? that's the current release |
| 22:31.04 | Chicken` | LOL |
| 22:31.09 | Chicken` | Well that would be the problem right there |
| 22:31.13 | Dustwhisper | 3.9.0.1535 |
| 22:31.18 | Chicken` | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.33 | Chicken` | Containing InfPrices.lua and InfQuests.lua |
| 22:31.51 | Chicken` | Let's try a relog and see what that does |
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| 22:32.52 | Chicken` | Looks good, let me put my SVs back |
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| 22:33.42 | Dustwhisper | ok |
| 22:33.45 | Dustwhisper | installed auctioneer 4.0 |
| 22:33.47 | Dustwhisper | /auctioneer |
| 22:33.49 | Dustwhisper | does NOT work |
| 22:35.27 | Chicken` | bleetah: Everything's great. ..\Informant\Data is missing in the 4.0 EXE release. |
| 22:35.33 | Chicken` | bleetah: Thanks for your help :) |
| 22:37.05 | Chicken` | Everyone else who has anything to do with this mod, it's wonderful and you guys should keep up the good work :) |
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| 22:39.41 | Bloodhoof | Does the current version of Auctioneer contain Enchantrix data for TBC-only items? |
| 22:40.06 | Chardonnay | the current version of auctioneer doesn't include enchantrix. they're working on rewriting it |
| 22:40.20 | Bloodhoof | Is there any Enchantrix data for TBC-only items, then? |
| 22:40.31 | Dustwhisper | the one in 3.9.0.1535 worked fine for me |
| 22:40.34 | Dustwhisper | no dbase though really |
| 22:41.01 | Dustwhisper | but seriousl |
| 22:41.03 | Dustwhisper | *seriously |
| 22:41.10 | Dustwhisper | there must be some way to debug why this isnt working |
| 22:41.32 | Bloodhoof | Does 4.0.0 contain Enchantrix? |
| 22:42.08 | Incredibull-Nord | I noticed that it has gradually been including DE info for a few more BC items as it has been progressing through the Beta and Gamma packages... |
| 22:42.57 | Incredibull-Nord | I guess you may want to download the most recent EnchantrixOnly developer release... |
| 22:43.38 | Bloodhoof | Could you link me to it, please? |
| 22:43.48 | Chardonnay | it will show data from your own disenchants, but i don't think the included database has any/many tbc items |
| 22:44.32 | Chardonnay | i posted a bottomscanner baserule on the forums that'll predict disenchants up to ilevel 99 pretty accurately (my disenchanter is only level 31 so i don't have any data on 100+ :) |
| 22:44.49 | Dustwhisper | got it working by loading without any addons |
| 22:45.05 | Dustwhisper | just need to reload my gfxaddon which i have no idea what was |
| 22:51.33 | bleetah | for those who've downloaded the .exe, you're prolly missing the infomant data. Whilst I'm working on fixing up the .exe, you can download the Informant addon standalone at http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/ Apologies for the inconvenience |
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| 22:52.19 | Incredibull-Nord | Bloodhoof, here is where to go for most recent developer version of Enchantrix http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/Enchantrix/ |
| 22:53.21 | bleetah | enchantrix is currently *NOT* production quality. there are some problem with it and we're completely re-writing it. this is why it's not in the current auctioneer release |
| 22:53.38 | Incredibull-Nord | It could be that the data I began to see for DE results of some BC stuff was due to my having disenchanted some items myself, and that there haven't been any additions to the database included with Enchantrix |
| 22:54.37 | bleetah | yes, we've disabled Enx uploads because of the problem. further, items whose rounded up ilvel is either 55 or 60 have no predictions available (due to our DB being polluted with pre and post BC items). All items above ilevel 60 can only be learned from self-DEing |
| 22:55.19 | Incredibull-Nord | I'm just a fan & user, Bleetah and Chardonnay and some others are certainly better sources of facts and advice |
| 22:56.24 | Incredibull-Nord | Heck, this is my first time even checking out this IRC chat.... ;^) |
| 23:00.00 | Incredibull-Nord | In general, you can get an idea of what to expect for an item by looking at similar items of the same level. This is fairly reliable for levels below the 40 range, which is about all I've personally ever DE'd. As a Jewelcrafter it didn't take long to realize that any basic armor item of the same level as an item I jewelcrafted, gave me good predictions as to what I would get. |
| 23:07.38 | Chardonnay | for tbc armor <= 99 it's approximately 75% arcane dust * 2.5, 20% lesser planar * 2.5, 5% small prismatic shard. swap the 75 and 20 for weapons |
| 23:07.52 | Chardonnay | that's what i'm using in my baserule and it seems to be pretty accurate |
| 23:09.46 | bleetah | yeah, there are some largely workable 'general rules' that seem to work. thing is, we don't like assuming that stuff like that will always work for every item, so we prefer to collect data for everything, then examine it at a later stage when we've got masses of data to look for such patterns (if any truly exist). that's to say, we desire to err on the side of caution when collecting data at the moment, with an eye to *hopefully* being a |
| 23:11.33 | Chardonnay | yeah, there are exceptions. some items not being disenchantable, others not matching the "rules of thumb". some rares and epics don't fit the general pattern, but you're unlikely to be buying those for de so i don't worry too much about that :) |
| 23:12.35 | Incredibull-Nord | That effort and thoroughness is much appreciated by most of us, Bleetah. Thanks again for all of your help, folks, I'm gonna exit now to install Notepad++ and work on my Auctioneer.lua file. Thanks again for all the help, and keep up the wonderful job you are doing! |
| 23:13.54 | Incredibull-Nord | #? |
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| 23:14.23 | Incredibull-Nord | Oops, trying to find basic IRC help info, forgot how to properly exit.... |
| 23:14.39 | Incredibull-Nord | I'll just close the window. TTFN |
| 23:16.02 | CIA-19 | auctioneer: 03mentalpower 074.0 * r1543 10Installer/Auctioneer.nsi: The installer will now also include Informant's Data folder. |
| 23:16.35 | Chardonnay | anyone else get that issue with item icons being swapped around if you switch away from wow and come back? it's happening a lot more since i reinstalled my machine so i'm thinking it's a driver problem... |
| 23:17.08 | CIA-19 | auctioneer: 03normal * r1544 10Installer/Auctioneer.nsi: Adding informant/Data/*.lua |
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| 23:17.13 | bleetah | aargh! |
| 23:17.20 | bleetah | oops mp... lemme revert ;) |
| 23:17.27 | MentalPower|ZZzz | sure |
| 23:18.07 | bleetah | MentalPower: meh, I don't think there's a need to revert, really.. looks like it's all fine ;) |
| 23:18.21 | bleetah | sorry I missed the ci, was in guildchat |
| 23:18.49 | MentalPower | nop, your change will install the data folder's files into informant's root folder |
| 23:19.10 | MentalPower | lemme backport the changes I made to the NSIS installer to the trunk |
| 23:19.38 | Chardonnay | oh yeah, btw, small issue i noticed in bottomscanner. when i buy items for disenchant i set the depositRate and depositCost to zero, but this isn't reflected in the tooltip |
| 23:19.57 | Chardonnay | should i add a ticket for that or is it a known thing? |
| 23:21.13 | MentalPower | There, new NSIS should be fine |
| 23:21.21 | MentalPower | bleetah: can you confirm? |
| 23:22.09 | bleetah | MP: hmm, I was only touching trunk. not seeing any change there. You did the 4.0 branch, so no wonder I didn't get a conflict, etc. |
| 23:22.27 | bleetah | lemme do trunk |
| 23:22.58 | MentalPower | yeah, I changed the build script last night so that the installer script is taken from the branch specified in the build page, and not always the trunk |
| 23:23.05 | CIA-19 | auctioneer: 03normal * r1545 10Installer/Auctioneer.nsi: MP: your change will install the data folder's files into informant's root folder |
| 23:23.38 | bleetah | so, we should be good now for a new 4.0 .exe build, imo |
| 23:23.51 | MentalPower | already done |
| 23:23.55 | bleetah | goodo :) |
| 23:30.59 | CIA-19 | auctioneer: 03mentalpower * r1546 10Installer/Auctioneer.nsi: Porting changes to the NSIS Installer script from the 4.0 branch to the trunk. Revisions [1541], [1542] & [1543]. |
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