| 00:01.27 | Harshmage | I'm around...what's up? |
| 00:01.58 | bleetah | Harshmage: this convo is going on in #wowi-lounge |
| 00:03.46 | Harshmage | aight |
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| 02:13.11 | KermitKiller | hi - is bleetah still in this channel? |
| 02:13.30 | bleetah | yup, but about 5 mins from leaving |
| 02:14.02 | KermitKiller | I did a scan with my second toon, and then she had all the info from the previous tunes many scans. :) |
| 02:14.20 | KermitKiller | Auctioneer - if you recall ;> |
| 02:14.31 | bleetah | after updating the mod? sweetness. glad it wasn't as painful as it might've been :) |
| 02:14.49 | KermitKiller | No updating - but thanks for your help! |
| 02:15.05 | bleetah | oh, hrm.. odd. nm, still, please update the mod to the current gamma release ;) |
| 02:15.24 | KermitKiller | gonna play now.. but wanted to let you know I appreciate it. I'll update tomorrow night when I can't play |
| 02:15.31 | bleetah | no probs |
| 02:15.36 | KermitKiller | night |
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| 02:25.49 | Piranha | hey guys i heard there was a Auctioneer BC |
| 02:26.02 | Piranha | cause my friend has it and i would like to get it |
| 02:26.18 | Piranha | if you have info email me at piranha_pb@hotmail.com |
| 02:29.30 | bleetah | wtf |
| 02:30.30 | CIA-20 | auctioneer: 03luke1410 * r1457 10auctioneer/AucScanManager.lua: |
| 02:30.30 | CIA-20 | auctioneer: void |
| 02:30.30 | CIA-20 | auctioneer: Changed the way QueryStyleScan is being set from 1/nil to true/false. This way it's far more obvious what this value is all about. |
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| 02:35.15 | kain_0063 | where do I unload the auctioneer zip file into? |
| 02:35.25 | bleetah | ~auctinstall |
| 02:35.37 | purl | If you are having trouble installing, try reading http://norganna.org/wiki/Installing |
| 02:36.04 | kain_0063 | tyvm |
| 02:36.44 | CIA-20 | auctioneer: 03luke1410 * r1458 10auctioneer/AucScanManager.lua: |
| 02:36.44 | CIA-20 | auctioneer: void |
| 02:36.44 | CIA-20 | auctioneer: Removed the AuctionsScanned variable, which is not required at all and renamed the AuctionsScannedCacheSize to AuctionsWrittenToDB which makes it easier to understand what this variable is counting. |
| 02:36.44 | CIA-20 | auctioneer: Also added fixed/added some more comments. |
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| 03:06.27 | CIA-20 | auctioneer: 03luke1410 * r1459 10auctioneer/AucScanManager.lua: |
| 03:06.27 | CIA-20 | auctioneer: void |
| 03:06.27 | CIA-20 | auctioneer: Removed unnecessary initialisation of LastRequestResult and added a description of what it's used for. |
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| 03:37.04 | WolfCat | I can't figure out if I'm being stupid, or something is wrong with my auctioneer, is there anybody here who can help either prove me an idiot, or point to my problem? |
| 03:38.25 | WolfCat | I've got the latest (gamma) version of auctioneer running, I had to do a fresh install of it so didn't have the old records etc from the past year or so of scans.. now, when I scan the AH, there's loads of stuff that are "never seen at auction" even though I can SEE them in the AH |
| 03:38.40 | WolfCat | to change this, I have to search for each item individually |
| 03:40.24 | WolfCat | is this problem me doing something wrong, is it a bug, is it the new way it works? |
| 03:44.42 | Luke1410 | so what u are saying is: |
| 03:44.42 | Luke1410 | You started up with a completely fresh installation of Auctioneer with no Auctioneer.lua file being present in ur SavedVariables folder. |
| 03:44.42 | Luke1410 | Then u performed a complete AH scan by clicking the Scan button in the AH and all categories on the left side were selected. |
| 03:44.42 | Luke1410 | The scan finished well, reporting a couple of new auctions in the AH frame as well as in the chat channel. |
| 03:44.43 | Luke1410 | Then u were mousing over an item in your bags where the tooltip said: "Never seen at auction" |
| 03:44.45 | Luke1410 | You searched for that item in the AH using the standard search window |
| 03:44.47 | Luke1410 | The search reported at least one match. |
| 03:44.49 | Luke1410 | You moused over that item in ur bags again and now it displayed something like: "saw 4 times at auction" |
| 03:44.51 | Luke1410 | Did I get u right? |
| 03:47.52 | WolfCat | not quite |
| 03:48.04 | WolfCat | I did the full scan, showed new auctions etc etc |
| 03:48.33 | WolfCat | then I was checking out the gems, and on the trade goods: gems section, I did an open search (no name) |
| 03:48.47 | WolfCat | and each and every item there was "never seen at auction" |
| 03:49.03 | WolfCat | I shift clicked one (tigerseye), and searched just that |
| 03:49.20 | WolfCat | and once the search had come up, I had an auctioneer price for it, and a proper "seen x times at auction" |
| 03:49.57 | WolfCat | but *anything* that I haven't done a single-title search for, is coming up as "never seen in auction" |
| 03:52.46 | WolfCat | this is stuff I'm looking at *IN* the AH, not mouse-overing on my bags |
| 03:55.21 | WolfCat | does that make sense? |
| 03:57.23 | Luke1410 | just tested it |
| 03:58.09 | Luke1410 | I'm not able to reproduce ur behaviour over here... Are u absolutely sure that all the tags next to the item categories are selected and the scan really finished and was not canceled? |
| 03:58.23 | WolfCat | yup, all ticked |
| 03:58.32 | Luke1410 | How many pages were reported to be scanned and how many new auctions were recorded? |
| 03:58.35 | WolfCat | and the scan completed fully |
| 03:58.42 | norgs_away | How did you "Clear" all your data? |
| 03:58.47 | WolfCat | I'm currently doing a re-scan, it's on page 8 of 94 |
| 03:59.07 | WolfCat | using Khaos Configure, I clicked "clear data" |
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| 04:00.05 | MadM3rlin | hi |
| 04:00.10 | norgs_away | hola |
| 04:00.31 | MadM3rlin | anyone here able to answer a few questions about auctioneer |
| 04:00.45 | WolfCat | I can try to do a screen cap to show if someone has a IM program I can send picture through? |
| 04:01.04 | norgs | http://norganna.org/up |
| 04:01.17 | norgs | but i don't think there'll be anything useful |
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| 04:01.53 | MadM3rlin | has anyone had any issues using the cmd line to update the AH info? |
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| 04:02.18 | WolfCat | I just had to allow popups, can you repost please norgs? |
| 04:02.28 | norgs | http://norganna.org/up |
| 04:03.00 | MadM3rlin | anyone =\ |
| 04:03.20 | norgs | MadM3rlin: I'm not sure what you mean :) |
| 04:03.28 | MadM3rlin | if i use the cmd line, i get a lot of errors (over 600) and one of my procs maxes out |
| 04:03.44 | norgs | which command is this? |
| 04:03.57 | Luke1410 | MadMerlin, just a link which might help be of interest for u: |
| 04:03.57 | Luke1410 | http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 04:05.21 | MadM3rlin | if thats one of those rtfm links, no thanks, ive already read the faqs |
| 04:05.59 | MadM3rlin | ok the command is the one it tells you to run to scan the ah's when you load the mod |
| 04:06.32 | norgs | No, this is a "How to ask questions effectively to maximize the amount of help you're likely to receive" things. |
| 04:06.39 | MadM3rlin | ./auctioneer scan |
| 04:07.33 | WolfCat | Norgs, file sent |
| 04:07.51 | norgs | WolfCat: link please? |
| 04:07.53 | WolfCat | I cancelled my latest scan to send |
| 04:08.05 | WolfCat | http://norganna.org/up/?view=E4vzTD/Auctionproblem.jpg |
| 04:08.18 | Luke1410 | it's more one of those: Be precise with your questions :) ... but yeah... there's also a section about RTFM in that doc, too :) |
| 04:08.36 | MadM3rlin | sorry i cant post error logs |
| 04:08.36 | WolfCat | but even if that particular item is one missed because I cancelled the scan, thats what I see on *everything* |
| 04:08.56 | MadM3rlin | if i replicate the error, i have to restart |
| 04:09.10 | norgs | MadM3rlin: Type: /swat show |
| 04:09.21 | Luke1410 | The scan failed, Wolf... See how it reports: Total scanned: 0 .... That means it did not finish correctly |
| 04:09.34 | norgs | (hopefully you have swatter installed and running) |
| 04:09.36 | WolfCat | yes, I just cancelled my *latest* scan to show it all |
| 04:09.44 | MadM3rlin | well |
| 04:09.47 | MadM3rlin | this is only showing 4 errors |
| 04:09.51 | WolfCat | I've done like...5/6 scans recently though |
| 04:10.12 | MadM3rlin | there was 660 when i ran the scan cmd |
| 04:10.16 | norgs | WolfCat: Ok, some important questions to get us started |
| 04:10.20 | WolfCat | ok |
| 04:10.30 | norgs | What version of auctioneer are you running? |
| 04:11.03 | Luke1410 | @wolf: So in fact u didn't start up with a non-existing Auctioneer.lua file in ur saved variables folder, but instead used the Khaos-Configurator to purge the old data, right? |
| 04:11.15 | MadM3rlin | auctioneerpack-3.9.0.1430 |
| 04:11.21 | WolfCat | correct luke |
| 04:11.32 | MadM3rlin | also i am running Mac osx 10.4 on a ppc, if that matters |
| 04:11.37 | WolfCat | just checking version now |
| 04:12.04 | Luke1410 | And before deciding to use auctioneer again, u were using 3.8 or already an older 3.9 version? |
| 04:12.28 | WolfCat | auctioneer pack 3.9.0.1293 |
| 04:12.39 | norgs | MadM3rlin: No, it doesn't (matter that is) |
| 04:13.00 | MadM3rlin | ok |
| 04:13.17 | MadM3rlin | i am not using any extra addons besides shard tracker |
| 04:13.19 | norgs | Ok... so MadM3rlin, i'm trying to work out how you knew it had 660 errors? |
| 04:13.23 | MadM3rlin | no custom ui or anything |
| 04:13.36 | MadM3rlin | count:660 |
| 04:13.42 | norgs | right |
| 04:13.44 | MadM3rlin | err |
| 04:13.45 | MadM3rlin | id 660 |
| 04:13.47 | Luke1410 | k... I'd suggest u go into ur WoW-folder: \World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\[ACCOUNTNAME]\SavedVariables and remove (or better move) the Auctioneer.lua file. Then start WOW again and see if it works... |
| 04:14.02 | WolfCat | I don't know which version I *WAS* using though |
| 04:14.10 | WolfCat | and I see there is a new version now.. |
| 04:14.26 | norgs | ok, that's fine. the id's get reset when you restart |
| 04:14.50 | Luke1410 | ok... so ur current one is/was .1293... In this case: Yeah, upgrade pls :) |
| 04:15.05 | norgs | so, can you see the error that you were receiving in the swatter history? |
| 04:16.10 | MadM3rlin | its only showing 4 errors now |
| 04:16.30 | MadM3rlin | 1 sec im going to replicate the error |
| 04:17.20 | MadM3rlin | ok weird |
| 04:17.47 | MadM3rlin | its not doing it. now it says go to ah to run a scan |
| 04:18.36 | WolfCat | ok, I'll backup the folder, and upgrade auctioneer |
| 04:19.14 | MadM3rlin | i feel smart.. |
| 04:20.23 | MadM3rlin | one other thing |
| 04:20.34 | MadM3rlin | hrm never mind |
| 04:20.41 | MadM3rlin | everything is working now |
| 04:20.54 | MadM3rlin | what a great mod.. it fixes itself |
| 04:22.37 | MadM3rlin | could anyone here a nice simple ui that is compatible with auctioneer? |
| 04:22.47 | MadM3rlin | *recomend |
| 04:23.17 | norgs | nice and simple are oxymorons |
| 04:23.35 | MadM3rlin | something can not be nice and simple? |
| 04:23.45 | norgs | nope - 'fraid not |
| 04:24.16 | norgs | diametrically opposed |
| 04:24.34 | WolfCat | upgraded, will try again and see if it works now |
| 04:24.43 | MadM3rlin | nice doesnt mean complex |
| 04:25.17 | MadM3rlin | ok then anyone know of a "simple" ui |
| 04:28.02 | norgs | MadM3rlin: You could probably ask the same question over here: #wowi-lounge |
| 04:28.33 | MadM3rlin | well im looking for something that is compatible with the mods supported in this channel.. |
| 04:28.39 | norgs | they would be far more capable of answering this question imo |
| 04:29.56 | norgs | most ui compilations should be compatible with auctioneer |
| 04:30.03 | norgs | there's not much that isn't |
| 04:30.25 | MadM3rlin | windscar ui caused a lot of errors |
| 04:39.15 | WolfCat | ok, whatever it was, now seems fixed... |
| 04:39.24 | WolfCat | so, I shall feel somewhat foolish, and slink off.... |
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| 04:39.42 | norgs | it was a bug, and yes, we fixed it a few days ago |
| 04:40.45 | WolfCat | aha, thankee!! |
| 04:41.00 | WolfCat | out of interest, now you've done sections in the trade goods for gems etc, is there a chance of one for herbs? :) |
| 04:41.56 | WolfCat | or "alchemy ingredients" |
| 04:47.31 | MadM3rlin | "valuation" |
| 04:47.36 | MadM3rlin | why is it so high |
| 04:50.42 | norgs | WolfCat: no, sorry. the trade goods stuff is just exposing what was already in the interface, but hidden from view |
| 04:50.55 | WolfCat | ah fair enough |
| 04:51.01 | WolfCat | wishful thinking on my part :) |
| 04:51.30 | norgs | it would certainly be good, but we've done as much as is possible for us to do there. |
| 04:51.55 | WolfCat | no worries |
| 04:52.04 | WolfCat | anyway, thanks for the help, back to the crack for me :) |
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| 05:56.42 | tjf | how do i install this thing? |
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| 06:47.36 | xlvii | can anyone confirm that if you take a level 70 into zul'gurub it'll raise boss levels to 73? |
| 07:15.44 | cirdan | there are heroic settings, where loot is better but bosses are ahrder |
| 07:17.05 | cirdan | norganna: you awake? |
| 07:18.07 | bleetah | pre-BC instances don't get heroic mode |
| 07:18.19 | cirdan | no? oh |
| 07:18.46 | bleetah | but, from what I understand... pre-BC instance *skull* bosses get a scaled parry/block/defense kinda of thing |
| 07:19.00 | bleetah | but only the skull bosses do it, trash mobs and standard elite bosses don't |
| 07:19.04 | cirdan | that's kinda stupid, cause those are the ones that need a heroic mode |
| 07:19.06 | cirdan | oh |
| 07:19.27 | bleetah | thing in heroic, there trash spawn faster, the bosses have different spells, etc. |
| 07:19.53 | bleetah | so, maybe they'll hook heroic into the old instances later, but I guess they wanted to get this lot 'right' before deciding whether they wanna screw with the older stuff |
| 07:21.45 | cirdan | right |
| 07:21.58 | cirdan | i forget, do u know much about btm bleetah? |
| 07:23.37 | bleetah | not really.. i dunno much at all |
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| 07:39.58 | Beastje | anyone here? |
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| 08:10.58 | phylus | hello |
| 08:11.16 | phylus | I have a question, anyone on? |
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| 08:37.47 | manub | I'm experiencing some mail issues with the latest version of Auctioneer addon (3.9.0.1430), I can't open more than 1-2 mails without closing the mailbox and opening it again.. no one else experienced this issue? |
| 08:42.31 | bleetah | yes, something weird is going on with the mail. personally, I've not been able to narrow it down |
| 08:42.43 | bleetah | at first I thought it may have been interaction with CTMailMod, but I'm not too sure about that |
| 08:42.47 | bleetah | oh |
| 08:42.49 | bleetah | cya |
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| 08:45.58 | noname | hey can some1 help me out installing gatherer |
| 08:46.18 | norgs | what's up? |
| 08:46.36 | noname | im not sure how to do it |
| 08:47.02 | norgs | well, here's a guide for auctioneer: http://norganna.org/wiki/Installing |
| 08:47.15 | norgs | gatherer will similar to that |
| 08:47.39 | norgs | (although, obviously not the same) |
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| 13:01.47 | Moirannia | I was just wondering, does anyone know when the gamma version is going to be released? |
| 13:02.51 | Moirannia | also, I will be running an instance tonight, in order to disable the addon, I just deselect it at the log in screen, correct? |
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| 15:29.27 | Fylar | g'day mates |
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| 15:39.24 | Fylar | ummm i hear crickets |
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| 15:52.51 | bleedslowly | can anybody tell me about the auction addon |
| 15:53.22 | bleedslowly | what exactly does it do |
| 15:54.11 | bleedslowly | is there anybody out there??????????? |
| 15:55.14 | Daemona | http://norganna.org/wiki/Auctioneer |
| 15:56.35 | cirdan | hey all |
| 15:56.45 | cirdan | norganna: ping |
| 16:28.50 | cirdan | any btm dev: ping ;-) |
| 16:29.37 | Sheppy | cirdan... Most of the devs are online more in the afternoon / evening US time. |
| 16:30.23 | dinesh-work | cirdan: i can help you, but i already gave you a suggestion which i don't think you've tried |
| 16:30.38 | dinesh-work | i also don't know what baserule norgs gave you |
| 16:30.54 | cirdan | i did try it, it didnt seem to help |
| 16:31.09 | cirdan | http://norganna.pastey.net/5915 |
| 16:31.36 | cirdan | but if possible i dont want it to ask about what it thinks are deals, only about the stuff i say in the baserule |
| 16:31.50 | cirdan | of course my server is down atm, but hopefully it'll be back soon |
| 16:32.10 | dinesh-work | what is it you want to do again? |
| 16:32.33 | cirdan | bid or buy items based on catagory, level, and price |
| 16:32.50 | cirdan | it's the same criteria i use when i manually shop for items to DE |
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| 16:40.28 | dinesh-work | you can try this: http://norganna.pastey.net/6103 |
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| 16:42.37 | cirdan | cool, and what do i use for the minprofit stuff? |
| 16:44.06 | cirdan | do I set it high to avoid the normal rules? or do i need to keep it low still |
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| 16:44.56 | dinesh-work | shouldn't matter |
| 16:48.49 | cirdan | cool |
| 17:06.41 | cirdan | very cool... |
| 17:06.46 | cirdan | can't wait to test it |
| 17:07.04 | cirdan | there isn't yet any way to only scan weapons or armor, is there? |
| 17:28.46 | dinesh-work | you can while scanning. BTM looks at whatever AH query is being run, and will scan the last page if nothing is being run. |
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| 17:32.10 | cirdan | hmm, so i click armor and hit search then start btm to scan all the results? |
| 17:35.45 | dinesh-work | i would start BTM first, wait for it to slow down (about 15 seconds), then start a scan of just armor, but yeah |
| 17:36.03 | dinesh-work | you have to uncheck the other categories though, not just click armor |
| 17:38.22 | cirdan | hmm, ok |
| 17:38.50 | cirdan | was never sure how it worked, i thought it used the last auctionerr scan like search auctions does |
| 17:39.18 | cirdan | so it will scan through all 10k items for me? once i start the search? or do i need to keep clicking next page |
| 17:43.23 | dinesh-work | search auctions uses the snapshot, not the last auctioneer scan. (if you do a full scan, the whole snapshot will be replaced, but if you just update items piecemeal, or select only certain categories, only that portion of the snapshot gets updated) |
| 17:43.49 | dinesh-work | it will scan however many items are in the categories you select |
| 17:46.43 | cirdan | oh, i thought you always had to do a full scan or hit update ui to update a snapshot |
| 17:46.53 | cirdan | didnt realize you can check only certain caragories |
| 17:47.12 | cirdan | but btm uses the current scan you have in the browse window? |
| 17:51.40 | dinesh-work | as i just said, btm scans whatever you are currently querying on the browse tab. if no queries are active, it will scan the last page. |
| 17:53.09 | cirdan | sorry for being thick, but if i check only armor, and start btm, then start a search of all armor, it will scan the whole search result |
| 17:53.26 | cirdan | if nothing is being searched for, it will scan the last page of the entire AH |
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| 18:54.18 | cirdan | woot. it's almost back up |
| 18:54.35 | cirdan | can't get my char list though |
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| 18:59.07 | zetada | I have questions about enchantrix add on |
| 18:59.29 | dinesh-work | shoot. |
| 18:59.41 | dinesh-work | though i will warn you it is in the process of a complete rewrite |
| 18:59.49 | dinesh-work | because of the TBC changes to enchanting/deing |
| 19:00.06 | zetada | Of course, on my lower lvl enchanting toon, i am doing all my enchants free, but when I use barker it always puts a price.... |
| 19:00.23 | dinesh-work | sorry, i know practically nothing about barker |
| 19:00.36 | zetada | i have changed my max/min prices to zero, but it's still spitting out a price... |
| 19:00.39 | zetada | eek...great. |
| 19:00.56 | zetada | =( boo. I wish there was an idiot's guide to using enchantrix...lol |
| 19:01.39 | zetada | is there a readme file on usage anywhere? |
| 19:02.10 | zetada | another question: |
| 19:02.42 | zetada | all these people put out on /2 channel about their enchants and it looks alot like what barker spits out...however, they say they cut and paste from word? |
| 19:04.19 | cirdan | hrm |
| 19:04.24 | dinesh-work | this is all we have right nowL: http://norganna.org/wiki/Enchantrix |
| 19:04.48 | dinesh-work | i have no idea whether or not pepole are cutting and pasting from word |
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| 19:05.07 | dinesh-work | though i can't see why not |
| 19:05.36 | zetada | how do you do that? how do you paste in the chat text? |
| 19:06.07 | cirdan | btm seems to be scanning not the checked catagories, but still the last page of the AH :/ |
| 19:06.31 | dinesh-work | you hit enter to open up the chat box, then hit ctrl-v |
| 19:06.52 | dinesh-work | cirdan: you have to check the categories, then hit the scan button |
| 19:07.01 | cirdan | for btm? |
| 19:07.05 | cirdan | ok |
| 19:07.09 | cirdan | i hit search |
| 19:07.10 | dinesh-work | oh good god, you are driving me crazy |
| 19:07.10 | cirdan | :) |
| 19:07.20 | dinesh-work | please pay attention. |
| 19:07.21 | cirdan | lol, im not as stupid as i seem :) |
| 19:07.29 | dinesh-work | btm will look at the results of any search |
| 19:07.36 | dinesh-work | if it is running |
| 19:07.42 | cirdan | ok |
| 19:07.57 | dinesh-work | so start it running, then hit the scan button, and as the scan is running through the pages, BTM will evaluate all those items |
| 19:08.06 | cirdan | ok, cool |
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| 19:08.35 | dinesh-work | once the scan ends, or at any other time when no other search is being run (either a scan, or any manual search you so), if BTM senses nothing going on, it will start it's own search of the last page |
| 19:08.45 | cirdan | see i was confused by this: <@dinesh-work> as i just said, btm scans whatever you are currently querying on the browse tab. if no queries are active, it will scan the last page. |
| 19:08.58 | cirdan | thought query was normal search |
| 19:09.06 | dinesh-work | i don't know what to tell you. a query is any search |
| 19:09.16 | dinesh-work | including a normal search |
| 19:09.27 | dinesh-work | or a scan, which is nothing but an automated search of all pages |
| 19:09.35 | dinesh-work | (or whatever categories you have checked) |
| 19:10.28 | cirdan | ok. i noticed it is asking me to buyt he same item twice, but can't find the item the second time |
| 19:10.33 | cirdan | same reason, vendor |
| 19:10.56 | dinesh-work | be forewarned though that when we talk about "searching", we might mean doing so on the browse tab with live data (which is what BTM will key on and also search). or we might be talking about the search tab, which only searches the snapshot (i.e. not live data, and BTM ignores all this) |
| 19:11.06 | dinesh-work | that is a known issue with the current build |
| 19:11.11 | cirdan | ok |
| 19:13.10 | jparshall | hi there. I was asking yesterday about a crash I've been suffering, and I have an error message for the failure now (that is, if anyone cares...) ;-) |
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| 19:13.55 | cirdan | dinesh-work: well, i can't seem to get the baserule to work weather i use scan or the search buton |
| 19:14.16 | cirdan | it just scans the last page of the AH all the time |
| 19:15.24 | jparshall | i have a 15MB auctioneer.lua file now, and when I load the app I get "Error Occured in: Global. Count 1. Message: constant table overflow" with some debug info after that... |
| 19:15.56 | jparshall | at which point auctioneer.lua is wiped, and I'm starting from ground zero in terms of my data set |
| 19:16.13 | jparshall | (this makes my 'toon grumpy....) |
| 19:16.25 | jparshall | anyone have a clue as to what's goin' on? |
| 19:17.13 | Malivil | Can you get the whole error messagE? |
| 19:17.39 | Malivil | If it is coming up in the !Swatter box, you can just highlight it, copy and paste it to norgana.pastey.net |
| 19:17.49 | jparshall | sure, I can do that |
| 19:18.14 | Malivil | *norganna |
| 19:18.37 | dinesh-work | jparshall: i tried to catch you yesterday before you left |
| 19:18.49 | dinesh-work | that is the error you get when your SV file is full |
| 19:18.55 | jparshall | ahhhhhhh |
| 19:19.14 | jparshall | is there a way to cull/compress, or otherwise get rid of the older data you don't need? |
| 19:19.21 | dinesh-work | unless you have an earlier backup, you're hosed. you can try manually editing it down, and keeping your fingers crossed |
| 19:19.29 | jparshall | lol |
| 19:19.30 | dinesh-work | ~auctfaq |
| 19:19.39 | purl | The Auctioneer support FAQ can be found at http://norganna.org/discuss/discussion/3266/auctioneer-support-faq/ |
| 19:19.42 | dinesh-work | in this faq i've documented the steps you can take |
| 19:19.45 | jparshall | I do keep older data sets, so I'm not totally boogered... |
| 19:19.51 | jparshall | ahhh, very good, I will look at that |
| 19:20.20 | dinesh-work | cirdan: if it's just scanning the last page, then it's not the baserule, you can't get BTM to work right. the baserule has nothing to do with it |
| 19:21.19 | cirdan | i hit start in the btmscan tab and then waited then hit scan in the browse tab with weapons and armor selected |
| 19:21.36 | cirdan | it asked 1 time because of an item was under vendor cost |
| 19:22.05 | cirdan | i pasted in the baserule that you posted |
| 19:22.08 | cirdan | before all that |
| 19:22.09 | dinesh-work | did the browse tab get covered by the "scanning" message? did it report how many auctions were added at the end? |
| 19:22.15 | cirdan | yes it did |
| 19:22.22 | dinesh-work | then it was running during the scan |
| 19:22.29 | dinesh-work | it was not just scanning the last page |
| 19:22.41 | dinesh-work | and if it only reported one thing, then yes, your baserule needs tuning |
| 19:22.49 | cirdan | ok but there were items that matched the baserule that it didnt ask about |
| 19:23.07 | cirdan | maybe i can remove the twilight robes section... |
| 19:23.11 | dinesh-work | well, i can't do any debugging of it now, since i'm not in front of the game, sorry |
| 19:23.13 | dinesh-work | yeah, try that |
| 19:23.18 | cirdan | np |
| 19:23.28 | dinesh-work | you want to cut out pieces, or try adding some debugging statements to see what is going on |
| 19:23.37 | cirdan | ok |
| 19:40.25 | jparshall | hi dinesh! I took a look over the FAQ you mentioned, and wanted to ask a follow-on, namely, I didn't see any information like "Editing your Auctioneer.lua file basic tips and tricks" or anything like that. I just wondered what the basic procedure for manually trimming this file is. Sorry if I'm being dense. |
| 19:41.21 | jparshall | (Incidentally, clearing unwanted faction/realm data isn't really an option--I only play one faction on one realm. My problem is that I scan the AH several times a day, every day, I guess...) |
| 19:46.15 | dinesh-work | jparshall: that's because there aren't any. |
| 19:46.20 | dinesh-work | step 1 - backup |
| 19:46.24 | jparshall | lol |
| 19:46.29 | dinesh-work | step 2 - eliminate realm-factions you don't need |
| 19:46.34 | dinesh-work | but you don't have any |
| 19:46.42 | dinesh-work | (did you scan the neutral ah ever?) |
| 19:46.51 | jparshall | nope! ;-) |
| 19:47.07 | dinesh-work | honestly, scanning frequently should have very little impact on thesize of your db |
| 19:47.11 | jparshall | (who goes there anyway? meh.....) |
| 19:47.20 | jparshall | fascinating... |
| 19:47.39 | dinesh-work | hmm, was your backup done a vfew versions ago? the data then had a bug where it would add a lot of nil auctions |
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| 19:48.02 | dinesh-work | not no impact, but we only keep the last 35 entries, so new data generally replaces old data |
| 19:48.19 | dinesh-work | anyway, you might try killing the whole snapshot section |
| 19:48.21 | jparshall | that's quite possible, actually--I tried to keep a pre-expansion data set around.... |
| 19:48.26 | dinesh-work | then loading (this should work) |
| 19:48.34 | dinesh-work | then saving again immediately. |
| 19:48.41 | dinesh-work | then make a backup |
| 19:48.49 | jparshall | i was wondering about that--the snapshot, of course, is the biggest chunk of the file |
| 19:48.57 | dinesh-work | then load again and try a scan and see what happens after you save and reload it |
| 19:49.07 | dinesh-work | yeah, and that's where our bug was |
| 19:49.09 | jparshall | is the historic pricing data kept above that section in the item description section? |
| 19:49.24 | dinesh-work | if you notice a lot of lines that look like "nil, 0 0 0 0 0" or some such, definitely give that a try |
| 19:49.26 | jparshall | i.e the [items] section? |
| 19:49.32 | dinesh-work | don't remember for sure |
| 19:49.34 | jparshall | ahhh, okay, i'll check for that.... |
| 19:49.36 | dinesh-work | but it's not in the snapshot |
| 19:49.52 | jparshall | k |
| 19:50.38 | boo_ | Is there anywhere to get a populated gatherer.lua for outlands mining? |
| 19:50.38 | jparshall | thanks very much for your help, and I'll leave you alone now! I will state for the record that it's a super-cool tool--it is the Way and the Truth, and the Key to All that is Cashflow.... |
| 19:51.04 | dinesh-work | boo_: we do not support shared databases |
| 19:52.30 | boo_ | boo :( |
| 19:52.30 | dinesh-work | jparshall: np. enjoy! |
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| 20:12.48 | ronin_0042 | Hello |
| 20:13.37 | ronin_0042 | Is anyone else in here? |
| 20:23.21 | cirdan | no |
| 20:23.25 | cirdan | i guess not |
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| 20:30.49 | nightbloom | hey |
| 20:31.14 | nightbloom | is it true the latest version of auctioneer works with burning crusade? |
| 20:31.30 | cirdan | the latest bets does, yes |
| 20:31.32 | cirdan | beta |
| 20:31.40 | nightbloom | Great =) |
| 20:31.45 | nightbloom | Missed auctioneer so much! |
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| 20:35.03 | yofoo | hey all |
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| 20:37.19 | Sheppy | Is there a document in the wiki that outlines the Auctioneer API? |
| 20:37.29 | Sheppy | Or anywhere else for that matter. |
| 20:38.24 | yofoo | does anyone know why my BTMscanner pops every item twice??? the second one always says there has been a higher bidder |
| 20:38.43 | Sheppy | Ahhh... Didn't look hard enough... AucAPI.lua does a pretty good job outlining it. |
| 20:39.42 | yofoo | sheppy are you having similar problems??? |
| 20:40.23 | Sheppy | I am not. IIRC, I think I saw something in one of the latest SVN versions that said it was fixed. One of the devs will have to tell you for sure. |
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| 20:41.42 | lightbringer_005 | um sup but how do i use auctioneer? |
| 20:42.01 | lightbringer_005 | how do i get the add on button |
| 20:42.38 | lightbringer_005 | yo any1 here? |
| 20:42.43 | yofoo | dude... |
| 20:43.00 | lightbringer_005 | um how do i do auctioneer |
| 20:43.08 | yofoo | http://norganna.org/wiki/Auctioneer |
| 20:43.14 | lightbringer_005 | i can't get the add on button |
| 20:43.32 | yofoo | go to that site |
| 20:43.37 | lightbringer_005 | k |
| 20:43.40 | lightbringer_005 | i'l try |
| 20:43.45 | yofoo | ...and what addon button? |
| 20:44.14 | lightbringer_005 | i thought u had to get an add on button to use auctioneer |
| 20:44.19 | lightbringer_005 | ok now wat? |
| 20:44.26 | yofoo | theres no button |
| 20:44.31 | lightbringer_005 | but now wat |
| 20:44.52 | yofoo | find what your looking for... |
| 20:45.22 | lightbringer_005 | i've already looked at all that. it doesn't answer wat i'm looking for. do u have auctioneer? |
| 20:45.54 | yofoo | lol yes |
| 20:46.03 | lightbringer_005 | ok how do i use it |
| 20:46.17 | lightbringer_005 | i downloaded it and everything |
| 20:46.42 | yofoo | http://norganna.org/wiki/Auctioneer/BasicAucUsage |
| 20:46.48 | yofoo | basic auctioneer usage |
| 20:47.03 | lightbringer_005 | now wat |
| 20:47.13 | yofoo | im afk dude bye |
| 20:47.20 | lightbringer_005 | dam |
| 20:48.35 | lightbringer_005 | any 1 here that uses auctioneer? |
| 20:49.03 | Sheppy | Pretty much everyone. yofoo linked you the uesage document. |
| 20:49.17 | lightbringer_005 | i no but i don't understand how i use it |
| 20:49.29 | lightbringer_005 | i downloaded it but i don't know what to do now |
| 20:49.50 | Sheppy | Did you install it? |
| 20:50.05 | lightbringer_005 | i downloaded it i dunno bout install |
| 20:51.08 | Sheppy | http://norganna.org/wiki/Auctioneer/Installing |
| 20:51.55 | lightbringer_005 | k i'll try |
| 20:52.14 | lightbringer_005 | i'll b away b back if need ne help |
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| 20:53.23 | yofoo | i dont tihnk this place was made for questions like "how do you use auctioneer" |
| 20:55.15 | yofoo | well it was the 2/4 auctioneer that was giving me problems...so i guess i gotta wait....cya |
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| 21:07.47 | Gku | hey guys |
| 21:08.14 | Gku | well anyways can someone help me with Enchantrix? i cant find any FAQs/Support sites for it |
| 21:08.18 | Gku | just the Auctioneer stuffs |
| 21:08.34 | Gku | guys? |
| 21:09.10 | MentalPower|ZZzz | norganna.org/wiki |
| 21:09.22 | Gku | will that help for enchantrix? |
| 21:10.55 | Gku | AWESOME! i guess i just needed to load it some how |
| 21:11.09 | Gku | it loaded itself and i got that encahnting % (it used to always be on) and now it has that Trade Barker thing |
| 21:11.11 | Gku | thanks man |
| 21:11.12 | Gku | lol |
| 21:11.21 | Gku | so ummmm what does Trade Barker do? |
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| 21:24.05 | CIA-20 | auctioneer: 03calliee * r1460 10auctioneer/ (AucQueryManager.lua AucScanManager.lua): |
| 21:24.05 | CIA-20 | auctioneer: Fixed the scan failure on sans of less than 50 auctions (fixes #1398) |
| 21:24.06 | CIA-20 | auctioneer: Split off the function for finishing off a scan in QueryManager and added a call to the new function in ScanManager. Functionality should not have changed. |
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| 21:44.53 | merlinz | can anyone tell me how to install the auction add on plz |
| 21:45.07 | Sheppy | http://norganna.org/wiki/Auctioneer/Installing |
| 21:45.23 | TonyD | is there a way to make a cancelled scan include the info already scanned? |
| 21:45.56 | bleetah | TonyD: only by doing selective category scans |
| 21:47.02 | bleetah | the cancellign of a scan stops duplicate request checking, and various other sanity checking stuff that goes on. so, on a complete AH scan, everything gets thrown away. on selective categories, only those categories which have been fully scanned will be added |
| 21:47.14 | bleetah | actually, they're added when the category is compelted |
| 21:47.32 | bleetah | the reason why we don't use the same code to scan all the AH, is that there are some AH items that have no category |
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| 22:14.50 | Sheppy | I haven't tried yet, but is it possible access Enchatrix from within a baserule? Such as local disenchantsTo = Enchantrix.Storage.GetItemDisenchants(auctKey, name, true); and then use the disenchantesTo.totals for item evaluation? |
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| 22:23.56 | zen991 | Sheppy Yes that should be possible. |
| 22:25.10 | zen991 | Sheppy: With the warning that enchantrix is a bit, no offense, flaky at the moment. In theory it will work. |
| 22:25.42 | Sheppy | Thanks... I'll try it tonight. One of my guildmates spends a lot of time in the AH looking for disenchantables and, while the existing logic isn't bad, he wants something better. Since my baserules are pretty complex, he asked me to work on one for him. |
| 22:25.50 | Sheppy | And thanks for the warning. |
| 22:26.34 | bleetah | Sheppy: yeah, we're working on a complete re-write... be aware that DE info for items above level 55 are... completely wrong ;) |
| 22:26.56 | bleetah | oh, hang on.. not 55, but you get the idea. stuff that DE's to the new BC stuff |
| 22:27.29 | bleetah | hence we've disabled data upload while we work on the fix |
| 22:27.34 | Sheppy | Right... I have noticed that... The numbers are waaay off. |
| 22:27.58 | bleetah | and whilst thinking of the fix, we realised a complete re-write is in order |
| 22:28.07 | Sheppy | I was getting level 60+ greens with a DE value of 15g. |
| 22:28.55 | bleetah | we do humbly apologise for the inconvenience. |
| 22:29.39 | Sheppy | I'm not stressed by it... I take a lot of that with a grain of salt. Its a game and its not real money and it has paid for my epic flyer when I get there. |
| 22:29.49 | zen991 | Considering how all this fits together and works, all the moving parts, all the unknowns. I am amazed, dumbfounded, and #### impressed with the work that is done here. |
| 22:31.10 | Sheppy | I noticed the new branch for enchantrix. If you need testers, even in the alpha state, I'm not afraid of errors... ;) |
| 22:39.54 | bleetah | heh, I think it's still completely non-functional.. I need to ctch up later today with norgs about it |
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| 22:43.21 | Sheppy | It actually looks like there hasn't been a ton of work on it since it got branched and the last checkin says "No where near complete", so I'm guessing it has a while to go. |
| 23:04.31 | jparshall | hey dinesh, wanted you to know that I tried disassembling my auctioneer.lua file to excise the snapshot portion, and ended up with a file that had no prior data in it anyway! lol. I'm not much of a programmer, though, so I'm just going to bag it, I think, and rebuild the data set anew. |
| 23:04.51 | jparshall | thanks again for your help |
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| 23:41.34 | Huoh | hi all, i have a problem. my addons says on auctioneer that "dependency disabled" what can i do about it |
| 23:44.31 | Huoh | any1? |
| 23:52.58 | Huoh | ?? |
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| 23:55.39 | lightbringer_002 | sup guys how do i do auctioneer |
| 23:55.59 | lightbringer_002 | how do i do auctioneer? |
| 23:56.30 | lightbringer_002 | how do i |
| 23:56.33 | lightbringer_002 | ... |
| 23:56.39 | lightbringer_002 | fuckin bitches |
| 23:56.47 | lightbringer_002 | talk you fuckin assholes |
| 23:57.03 | Huoh | =D |
| 23:57.11 | lightbringer_002 | plz i'm just really pissed |
| 23:57.17 | lightbringer_002 | really really pissed |
| 23:57.28 | lightbringer_002 | i've been trying for the last 2 hours lolz |
| 23:57.29 | Huoh | they r pretty quiet... i have problems with Auctioneer too |
| 23:57.42 | lightbringer_002 | i can't install it that's the problem |
| 23:58.03 | lightbringer_002 | can some1 tell me how to install? |
| 23:58.04 | Huoh | i have info that says Denedency disabled |
| 23:58.14 | Huoh | dependency** |
| 23:58.16 | lightbringer_002 | o w/e i'm just gonna play |
| 23:58.21 | lightbringer_002 | cya |
