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| 00:03.36 | dEofol | SO how difficult are these addons to code? I've done C/C++/C# for the past 12 years, easy comparitive? |
| 00:05.26 | Bleeter | if you're a decent programmer, know a bit about objective stuff, and how UI's work, it's not that hard really |
| 00:05.27 | m0oman | on a scale where 1 = easiest and 5 = hardest i'd say 2 for somebody very good a c derivates. |
| 00:05.27 | Bleeter | yeah |
| 00:05.28 | m0oman | it's just getting into how lua works with wow and how the wow interface works. |
| 00:05.28 | Bleeter | agreed, that's the tough nut. |
| 00:05.29 | Bleeter | there's no K&R book for WoW LUA ;) |
| 00:05.29 | m0oman | compared to windows gui coding it's very, very easy. compared to mac os x gui coding it's ridiculuously sophisticated. |
| 00:05.30 | dEofol | lol |
| 00:05.30 | m0oman | Bleeter: give it time. :p |
| 00:06.05 | dEofol | Are there any good sites to lean the language? |
| 00:06.05 | Bleeter | wowwiki.com and the UI Interface forum |
| 00:06.23 | Bleeter | for the WoW usage of it, and the official LUA site (lua.org , maybe, can't recall off top of head) |
| 00:06.35 | m0oman | aye. standard lua stuff won't get you too far apart from the basic syntax i guess. half of the world you're living in will be wow specific functions anyway. |
| 00:06.36 | dEofol | ok kewl. SO your mods are not compiled I take it, just a scripting language? |
| 00:07.03 | Bleeter | they're compiled after you select your char, but before you 'zone in' |
| 00:07.23 | Bleeter | hence, if you've got an error message noise happening, you'll hear it go off during the char loader screen hehe |
| 00:07.27 | dEofol | But the source is still in the interface folder? |
| 00:07.31 | Bleeter | yeah |
| 00:08.26 | Imrcly | the xml is the hardest part i think |
| 00:08.27 | m0oman | basically similar to php/cgi/asp at that point - gets compiled when needed/executed. |
| 00:08.27 | Bleeter | thus, you can't change the source on the fly. one needs to 'reloadui' to get it recompiled, but ideally logout and log back in just to be sure ;) |
| 00:08.29 | dEofol | I take it the new patch farked everything up then. |
| 00:08.45 | Bleeter | new patch -> moving from LUA 5.0 to 5.1.1 |
| 00:09.06 | dEofol | What does LUA stand for? |
| 00:09.07 | Bleeter | the core important changes are enough to bust most mods |
| 00:09.16 | m0oman | in theory you'll only have to log in if you add/delete files. but wow has some strange ways of acting sometimes. |
| 00:09.40 | Imrcly | lua is the coding language like java |
| 00:09.42 | Bleeter | Lua means 'moon' in Portuguese |
| 00:09.53 | Bleeter | it was started in Brazil |
| 00:10.12 | dEofol | ok, cool. I need to look more into this. Thanks all. |
| 00:10.18 | Bleeter | yeah, lua.org |
| 00:10.45 | Imrcly | the lua is easy very straightforward almost writes itself its the xml that is anoying |
| 00:12.30 | m0oman | xml is fun if you belong to the "OMG STANDARD! YOU HAVE TO CONFORM TO THE STANDARD! I DON'T CARE IF IT MAKES SENSE BUT IT'S A STANDARD AND YOU HAVE TO STICK TO IT!" people. :p |
| 00:12.59 | Cera | lua is not like java and never gets compiled into machine code |
| 00:13.50 | Imrcly | he was asking what lua meant i was trying to explain that its just a name |
| 00:14.49 | m0oman | i think i'll make another wow movie tomorrow. |
| 00:14.57 | m0oman | trying to login to the server. |
| 00:15.03 | m0oman | with some cool music. |
| 00:15.04 | dEofol | lol, I wrote the standards at my company. I'm one of "those" kind of people. lol |
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| 00:15.36 | Bleeter | I thought both java and lua shared the 'compilation to bytecode' theory... gah, I guess I need to read up more ;) |
| 00:15.46 | dEofol | The kind most people hate, because they can't follow standards. :/ |
| 00:16.14 | Jpmorgan | If I understand this correct Autioneer will not be availble for 2 weeks yet ? |
| 00:16.21 | m0oman | oh i like to follow standards. but mostly at some points it stops to work because some people with too much influence decide to not follow them. |
| 00:16.23 | Imrcly | i don't mind standards as long as i can see what they are |
| 00:16.29 | m0oman | --> browsers are the best examples here. |
| 00:16.37 | Bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:16.42 | Imrcly | opera follows standards |
| 00:16.48 | Cera | they do, but java goes further and compiles byte code into machine code |
| 00:17.21 | Imrcly | java translates byte code to machine code thats why you need a java virtual machine |
| 00:17.35 | m0oman | most of them. not all though. same problems like firefox, ie, safari at some point. even though i blame ie most. and opera i like, but i have no use for it. :/ |
| 00:17.39 | Bleeter | ah, it's been a while since I've seriously used java (ended working with it professionally around the time 1.2 came out) |
| 00:17.39 | Imrcly | does not translate* |
| 00:18.11 | Bleeter | twah, but the hotspot thing I seem to recall was an attempt to convert it further to machine code, which happened at runtime. |
| 00:18.33 | Cera | and java is distributed as byte code typically then gets compiled to machine code, lua is distributed as source and then converted to byte code |
| 00:18.35 | m0oman | so that made it so boggingly slow? ;) |
| 00:18.46 | Bleeter | safari is bork viewing the currnt wowroster layout |
| 00:19.06 | Bleeter | haven't decided yet which is breaking standards.. can't really be bothered. guild only has 3 mac users. |
| 00:19.41 | m0oman | well, looking at the wowroster html/css it's surprising it works in most other browser. it's a mess. |
| 00:20.10 | Bleeter | yeah, hence my lack of a desire to investigate ;) |
| 00:20.14 | m0oman | safari is mostly following standards in the way opera does that. but at some points it just needs some major work. especially xhtml. |
| 00:20.29 | FewynMorisato | sigh all these addons sites are dying |
| 00:20.35 | Imrcly | yeah |
| 00:20.53 | m0oman | the default wowroster 1.7.1 works on safari though apart from the tabs on the character/talents viewer, you have to scroll down in one first to be able to select another one. |
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| 00:21.02 | Bleeter | sigh for all these people hitting up the sites for downloads when no one really has 100% confidence that the 'updated' mods will actually work on live |
| 00:21.13 | FewynMorisato | yea |
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| 00:21.47 | m0oman | i'm not bothering with the mods for 2-3 days. not that there'll be any raiding in the first days. |
| 00:21.58 | Bleeter | yeah, prolly even during the first week |
| 00:21.59 | m0oman | i'd be surprised if the servers stayed up longer than 12 hours. |
| 00:22.00 | Cera | I have 100% confidence mine does |
| 00:22.04 | Imrcly | sure there will between restarts |
| 00:22.12 | Bleeter | people are gunna have learn to live without decursive |
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| 00:22.18 | Imrcly | what mod is yours cera? |
| 00:22.31 | m0oman | i never used decursive anyway. :p |
| 00:22.34 | Bleeter | and no serious raiders are going to want to go out with what amounts to a bunch of noobs doing decursing ;) |
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| 00:22.58 | Bleeter | yeah, then there's the restarts |
| 00:23.22 | Bleeter | also the new talents and stuff... people are going to need to learn to play (to varying extents) again |
| 00:23.32 | Cera | SpellTips, every site that hosts it is hammered so not going to bothering linking |
| 00:23.53 | Bleeter | Cera: wossitdothen? :P |
| 00:24.02 | Imrcly | everyone is going to go 41 points in even though there is no reason to until you hit 70 |
| 00:24.05 | m0oman | i never managed to finish a mod of my own. :o |
| 00:24.23 | m0oman | oh i'll love running around as a tree! |
| 00:25.11 | Malivil | Distribution of alcohol to minors. |
| 00:25.13 | Malivil | 3-5 years. |
| 00:25.22 | Cera | fixes the values on spell tooltips to be accurate |
| 00:25.46 | m0oman | nerf gf complaining. |
| 00:25.48 | m0oman | nightie. |
| 00:26.05 | Malivil | nn |
| 00:27.58 | Imrcly | thats cool i quess it works similar to theorycraft |
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| 00:29.40 | Cera | minus the bloat |
| 00:30.34 | Imrcly | theorycraft is good if you are learning how to get th emost dps or dpm but after awhile it is anoying |
| 00:30.45 | Cera | and TC was really a combination of 2 mods that already existed |
| 00:31.26 | FewynMorisato | Ninjas are WAYcooler than Pirates. |
| 00:31.43 | Imrcly | liar they are not |
| 00:32.17 | Bleeter | Cera: ooh, so, (in at least 1.x) with my hunter's 126AP Hunter's mark, the tooltip for the buff would've actually said that? |
| 00:32.43 | Bleeter | 'coz it constantly annoys me that I can't tell if an existing mark is base or improved :/ |
| 00:32.52 | Bleeter | and it's not just HM that does it, either. |
| 00:33.08 | Imrcly | lots of things do that |
| 00:33.37 | Bleeter | I can understand, to some extent, why. My client knows the buff, but has no idea of the talents the player has who put the buff on. |
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| 00:34.07 | Bleeter | at least, that's the only conclusion I could reach as to why. which is why I piped up when I thought *maybe* there's a mod that 'fixes' this :) |
| 00:34.19 | FewynMorisato | Did they change the image for the actual mark for hunters? |
| 00:34.26 | FewynMorisato | is it still a big red arrow? |
| 00:34.36 | Imrcly | my mod was destroyed i think do to new ui rules, it allowed you to target based on raid icon, i will find out as soon as i can log in |
| 00:34.39 | Harshmage | It should be the new arrow |
| 00:35.00 | Bleeter | what's new about it? |
| 00:35.02 | FewynMorisato | what does the NEW arrow look like? |
| 00:35.09 | FewynMorisato | i've yet to see a picture of it |
| 00:35.16 | Bleeter | btw, the arrow on an imp, or something even smaller, is very amusing |
| 00:35.19 | FewynMorisato | and i didn't want to level a hunter on ptr |
| 00:35.23 | Harshmage | It's more....pretty... |
| 00:35.27 | Cera | Bleeter, nope, it works for spell tooltips (ie. on your action bars) not buff tooltips |
| 00:35.27 | FewynMorisato | pretty? |
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| 00:35.40 | FewynMorisato | Grrr... i don't wanna log onto beta and find out |
| 00:35.40 | Harshmage | yeah...okay, it's not a dumb blockish arrow.. |
| 00:35.41 | sysrage | hi all |
| 00:35.46 | Harshmage | it has more curves... |
| 00:35.51 | FewynMorisato | it's not blockish? |
| 00:35.52 | FewynMorisato | cool |
| 00:35.57 | FewynMorisato | hopefully it looks better |
| 00:36.04 | FewynMorisato | i liked the arrow from Hakkar |
| 00:36.07 | Bleeter | nice, well I guess that makes up for the surv tree mass-nerf |
| 00:36.21 | Bleeter | cera: ah, k. still useful for 2.x? |
| 00:36.24 | sysrage | i'm sure it's been asked 5 billion times tonight, but i gotta ask again. is the developer version of auctioneer semi-stable and works with 2.0? |
| 00:36.32 | FewynMorisato | it's suppose to sysrage |
| 00:36.44 | FewynMorisato | not 100% certain untill the servers come up |
| 00:36.49 | Bleeter | sysrage: buggy, but work with 2.x, yes |
| 00:36.53 | sysrage | okie. will give it a try. thanks |
| 00:36.56 | Bleeter | even after servers come up, a bucket of work to be done |
| 00:37.23 | Bleeter | enchantrix and beancounter are still to be tested |
| 00:37.37 | Imrcly | what happens when the servers come up and all the idiots relize their mods are broken |
| 00:37.51 | FewynMorisato | the servers go down the crapper even more for the ui sites |
| 00:37.52 | Harshmage | babies will cry |
| 00:37.53 | sysrage | all the mod sites are already taking a hardcore beating. it'll only get worse |
| 00:37.55 | Bleeter | the servers go down, and use real coders have to wait longer ;) |
| 00:38.37 | Bleeter | for those who don't know it, here's the URL for the 'alert' you see on the login screen |
| 00:38.41 | Bleeter | http://12.129.217.200/alert |
| 00:38.48 | Bleeter | that way, load it in your browser, no need to have game up |
| 00:38.56 | Imrcly | aweet |
| 00:38.56 | FewynMorisato | wow |
| 00:38.59 | sysrage | nice |
| 00:39.00 | FewynMorisato | how did you find out about that? |
| 00:39.21 | Cera | Bleeter, not only does it work but it's a lot more accurate thanks to 2.0 |
| 00:39.23 | Bleeter | the IP changes occasionally, I use 'ethereal' to look at the packets on port 80 when the game fires up |
| 00:39.27 | FewynMorisato | ah |
| 00:39.28 | FewynMorisato | cool |
| 00:39.36 | Imrcly | netstat |
| 00:39.42 | Bleeter | i've got it embedded in our guild website |
| 00:39.53 | FewynMorisato | heh |
| 00:39.53 | FewynMorisato | cool |
| 00:39.56 | FewynMorisato | smart idea |
| 00:39.56 | Bleeter | when it 404's, the website sends me a mail to track down the new IP |
| 00:40.02 | FewynMorisato | nice idea |
| 00:40.07 | Bleeter | up until recently, the host was .201 |
| 00:40.26 | Bleeter | cera: sounds awesome then. I'll have to grab it :) |
| 00:40.28 | Imrcly | according to that we have 20 mins |
| 00:40.40 | FewynMorisato | yea |
| 00:40.43 | FewynMorisato | i'm waiting |
| 00:41.05 | Imrcly | the log in servers will start crying then |
| 00:41.05 | Cera | posted at 1:36pm though... watch another update soon >< |
| 00:41.12 | sysrage | 5 bucks says everybody logs in, then they take servers down again :P |
| 00:41.37 | FewynMorisato | we'll see :P |
| 00:41.37 | Bleeter | i'm not into giving away my money to IRC strangers :P |
| 00:41.37 | Bleeter | no offence ;) |
| 00:41.38 | sysrage | heh |
| 00:41.38 | FewynMorisato | xD |
| 00:42.03 | Bleeter | and I mean no disrepect to blizz when I say that |
| 00:42.06 | FewynMorisato | so i bet they break the arenas somehow in the next week |
| 00:42.15 | FewynMorisato | i really like the arena tho |
| 00:42.22 | FewynMorisato | i played it a bit on beta and ptr |
| 00:42.30 | Bleeter | I've coded for far simpler online multi-state games, and even with simple stuff - realtime operations aren't fun |
| 00:42.51 | Bleeter | ie, far more complex than what it would appear on the surface to require |
| 00:42.51 | FewynMorisato | *4:00 PM PST |
| 00:42.52 | Imrcly | i pitty them for the maintance window |
| 00:42.52 | FewynMorisato | Extended Maintenance Update- At this point in time we still anticipate a 5:00 PM PST time for all realms to be accessible to players. Should we need to extend our maintenance window further, we will post an update. |
| 00:42.53 | FewynMorisato | whieeee |
| 00:43.14 | FewynMorisato | i'm just glad we get new talents |
| 00:43.22 | Bleeter | as such, I'd be very suprised if there aren't major probs moving from a test environment to live |
| 00:43.24 | FewynMorisato | i've got two specs i can't decide between |
| 00:43.35 | FewynMorisato | yea i agree there Bleeter |
| 00:43.39 | FewynMorisato | i'm used to this type of thing |
| 00:43.48 | Imrcly | im going to go 0/0/0 for awhile |
| 00:43.49 | tcgiant | I'm actually just tuning all my toons back to the same exact specs of before |
| 00:43.50 | FewynMorisato | i've moved websites from test enviroments to live servers often |
| 00:43.54 | tcgiant | AS before, rather |
| 00:43.58 | sysrage | no talents FTW |
| 00:43.59 | FewynMorisato | and it never goes how i expect |
| 00:44.38 | Bleeter | yeah, move the webserver, the static data, the DB, and clone the OS, there's invariably something that goes awry |
| 00:44.54 | Imrcly | mostly with the db |
| 00:45.01 | Bleeter | murphy was no fool 'if something can go wrong, it will' |
| 00:45.37 | Imrcly | and oracle mysql and access will make sure it does |
| 00:45.53 | sysrage | access? *hurl* |
| 00:46.09 | sysrage | please.. i just ate |
| 00:46.11 | Bleeter | access is NOT a database system :P |
| 00:46.23 | Bleeter | i ate 12 hours ago, and I feel similar ;) |
| 00:46.24 | Imrcly | i work in a helpdesk postion i get to support it |
| 00:46.33 | Imrcly | daily |
| 00:46.33 | tcgiant | lawl tech doods |
| 00:46.43 | Bleeter | the ONLY help access users need.. is a lart so they ditch it |
| 00:46.48 | tcgiant | I hate doing IT work |
| 00:46.55 | FewynMorisato | ACCESS is horrible |
| 00:47.00 | sysrage | hah. been awhile since i've seen lart |
| 00:47.06 | FewynMorisato | i've had clients thinking they could use it instead of mysql |
| 00:47.11 | FewynMorisato | and ask me how to get it to work |
| 00:47.13 | Imrcly | we have access froms tied to oracle dbs |
| 00:47.17 | FewynMorisato | i feel like slapping them |
| 00:48.04 | Imrcly | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:52.28 | tcgiant | :/ |
| 00:52.39 | tcgiant | rough draft of term paper due tomorrow |
| 00:54.43 | Imrcly | i have to write a 1000 word paper on the philosophical issues of a brave new world with references |
| 00:54.55 | tcgiant | 1000 words, nice |
| 00:54.56 | FewynMorisato | i have to pvp |
| 00:54.59 | FewynMorisato | and pvp some more |
| 00:55.03 | tcgiant | likewise |
| 00:55.04 | FewynMorisato | and maybe pvp just a tiny bit more |
| 00:55.12 | tcgiant | gonna get me some new pvp rewardy stuff |
| 00:55.18 | FewynMorisato | yea |
| 00:55.24 | FewynMorisato | i need that gm dagger |
| 00:55.27 | tcgiant | pff |
| 00:55.30 | FewynMorisato | >_> |
| 00:55.34 | FewynMorisato | for my dmg gear |
| 00:55.36 | tcgiant | gonna get one of all of the gm weaps I can't use |
| 00:55.45 | tcgiant | actually just a GM longsword |
| 00:55.56 | Imrcly | i want that dagger also |
| 00:55.58 | tcgiant | 'cause I think that's the best looking 1h weap in the entire damn game, no fake |
| 00:57.03 | tcgiant | 7pm |
| 00:57.08 | FewynMorisato | no |
| 00:57.11 | FewynMorisato | 3 minutes |
| 00:57.11 | Imrcly | i really want that mageblade |
| 00:57.13 | FewynMorisato | offically |
| 00:57.13 | tcgiant | no |
| 00:57.21 | FewynMorisato | your clock is off then |
| 00:57.23 | tcgiant | just fired the game up |
| 00:57.35 | tcgiant | someone borked the arenas and they gotta test it out |
| 00:57.40 | tcgiant | gonna be til 7 pacific |
| 00:57.43 | tcgiant | 10pm my time |
| 00:57.56 | graymouser | new estimated time posted: 7pm pst. beh. |
| 00:57.57 | FewynMorisato | sdgkjglsdnggjl |
| 00:57.59 | FewynMorisato | GHEYT |
| 00:58.22 | graymouser | doh, note to self: must type faster.. |
| 00:58.23 | tcgiant | I know |
| 00:58.31 | tcgiant | gonna be ugly |
| 00:58.38 | FewynMorisato | SIGH |
| 00:58.39 | tcgiant | I hope we get a free day |
| 00:58.41 | tcgiant | or something |
| 00:58.42 | FewynMorisato | it's my birthday |
| 00:58.43 | tcgiant | I dunno |
| 00:58.47 | FewynMorisato | GET THE DAMN SERVERS UP |
| 00:58.48 | tcgiant | happy birthday |
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| 00:58.59 | sysrage | definately won't get a free day |
| 00:59.10 | FewynMorisato | it's my 21st.... there's plenty of things I could be doing |
| 00:59.23 | tcgiant | then I hope we get field marshall gearz |
| 00:59.25 | sysrage | so go get drunk |
| 00:59.30 | FewynMorisato | i rather not |
| 00:59.32 | tcgiant | I needs me some purple mage spikeshoulders |
| 00:59.32 | FewynMorisato | not my thing |
| 00:59.33 | Imrcly | and you are still sober? |
| 01:00.00 | tcgiant | I'm still sober |
| 01:00.06 | tcgiant | I wish I drank |
| 01:00.38 | tcgiant | I should start |
| 01:01.16 | Imrcly | avoid mixing alcohols you will wish you never started |
| 01:01.39 | FewynMorisato | i'm not a drinker |
| 01:01.44 | FewynMorisato | i'll drink socially |
| 01:01.50 | tcgiant | nor am I, don't feel discouraged |
| 01:01.51 | FewynMorisato | but I don't like to just go out to just drink |
| 01:02.24 | Imrcly | you get free drinks on your birthday |
| 01:02.37 | tcgiant | you know what I want? That super archmage armor that Arugal and the dude in the tower in azhara wear |
| 01:02.46 | tcgiant | the recolored cloth alliance pvp set |
| 01:02.55 | FewynMorisato | i just want the servers to come back up |
| 01:03.00 | tcgiant | that too. |
| 01:03.01 | FewynMorisato | so i can go play pvp with my guild |
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| 01:03.24 | tcgiant | all I need to win pvp is a dwarf priest to fear ward me |
| 01:03.32 | tcgiant | and to respec so I get ignite back |
| 01:03.40 | tcgiant | er, not ignite, impact |
| 01:03.55 | FewynMorisato | heh |
| 01:03.57 | TrimbleEpic | Hi everyone |
| 01:03.59 | FewynMorisato | i'm a dwarf priest |
| 01:04.07 | tcgiant | eldre'thalas? |
| 01:04.19 | TseTse | extended 2 more hours |
| 01:04.26 | FewynMorisato | norgannon |
| 01:04.27 | tcgiant | welcome to six minutes ago |
| 01:04.29 | tcgiant | bah! |
| 01:04.39 | TseTse | hey, just passing on the word =) |
| 01:04.39 | tcgiant | other realms don't matter |
| 01:05.55 | TrimbleEpic | what are they doing with arena, i thought you had to be 70 to create arena teams. will arenas be available at 60? |
| 01:06.33 | Cera | scrimmages at 60 |
| 01:06.55 | tcgiant | so basically all risk no reward |
| 01:06.57 | Cera | the ladder is 70 |
| 01:07.10 | tcgiant | I suppose we still get honor tokens for it |
| 01:07.19 | Imrcly | i am sure you still get honor points for that new store thing |
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| 01:07.37 | Cera | honor points yeah, topkens are only for the old 3 BG's |
| 01:08.04 | TrimbleEpic | oh well. |
| 01:08.05 | tcgiant | but I am going to take my arcane/fire mega crit build to the arena and ludicrous killing noobs |
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| 01:08.41 | tcgiant | man once bc hits it's going to be godly dangerous too |
| 01:09.14 | tcgiant | the moment I proc clearcasting the next thing I hit is going to be turned into a giant ball of burning agony |
| 01:09.15 | Cera | AP POM PYRO is about as skilled as deathcoil |
| 01:09.33 | tcgiant | you seem to assume I'd do a foolish thing like arcane power |
| 01:09.34 | tcgiant | pff |
| 01:09.44 | tcgiant | 28/23 arc/fire ftw |
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| 01:10.26 | Imrcly | 0/0/0 ftw |
| 01:10.35 | tcgiant | haw |
| 01:10.37 | Cera | the arena is all about cooldowns |
| 01:10.39 | Imrcly | going to wait a week to spec |
| 01:10.53 | TseTse | 5 destruction locks imo |
| 01:11.20 | TseTse | =) |
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| 01:11.20 | tcgiant | so if my pyroblast doesn't annihilate you, what then, I just sheep you and charge another |
| 01:11.20 | TseTse | stun and aoe hell |
| 01:11.20 | Cera | fights are over in a few seconds and by the time you do another your cooldowns are up |
| 01:11.40 | tcgiant | so it's basically a duel |
| 01:12.31 | norgs|laptop | how slack are blizzard - 6 hours over estimate |
| 01:12.44 | tcgiant | sux don't it |
| 01:12.49 | norgs|laptop | it makes me want to cry |
| 01:13.01 | tcgiant | it makes me not want to do more work on my term paper |
| 01:13.12 | norgs|laptop | i bet they're all tired as heck |
| 01:13.31 | tcgiant | probably |
| 01:13.36 | kimert | can't imagine the stress |
| 01:13.52 | norgs|laptop | they've been locked in a room for 18 hours |
| 01:13.56 | tcgiant | I'd love to get called in to fix things |
| 01:14.09 | Imrcly | several rooms the severs are not all in one building |
| 01:14.26 | tcgiant | "So here's what we've got for you... right now all our servers are down and it looks like we're going to be six hours over. How can we not make seven million people hate us?" |
| 01:14.56 | tcgiant | hmmm, give sheltem e't alliance those kickass archmage-recolored pvp shoulders all the cool npc mages have |
| 01:15.02 | tcgiant | that'll do it |
| 01:15.07 | Imrcly | yeah |
| 01:15.12 | Imrcly | id take em |
| 01:15.30 | tcgiant | actually just give me plate proficiency |
| 01:15.44 | tcgiant | magetank hoooooooo |
| 01:15.47 | norgs|laptop | wait... how about another minipet |
| 01:15.51 | tcgiant | pfff |
| 01:15.55 | norgs|laptop | hehe |
| 01:15.58 | tcgiant | unless it's a pet winthegame |
| 01:16.01 | tcgiant | or a grue |
| 01:16.10 | norgs|laptop | nah - a pet moth |
| 01:16.22 | tcgiant | also norg hi auctioneer has probably saved me like a million gold |
| 01:16.25 | norgs|laptop | how good would a pet moth be.... or a pet fenstrider |
| 01:16.34 | tcgiant | I got a prairie dog |
| 01:16.39 | tcgiant | bought it off the AH one time |
| 01:16.53 | Imrcly | i have alot of minipets |
| 01:17.06 | norgs|laptop | meh - prairie dogs... standard thunderbluff vendopet |
| 01:17.19 | tcgiant | not if you're a human mage it ain't a standard pet |
| 01:17.31 | tcgiant | I want a giant rideable combat chicken |
| 01:17.35 | tcgiant | ultramegachikkin |
| 01:17.40 | Imrcly | lots of mages here huh? |
| 01:17.42 | tcgiant | he is legend |
| 01:17.42 | norgs|laptop | my priest has a prairie dawg |
| 01:17.52 | tcgiant | mages are leeter |
| 01:18.00 | tcgiant | if this room was full of hunters and rogues I would cry |
| 01:18.39 | tcgiant | I actually play a mage, a druid, a lock, and a hunter but I only raid as a mage |
| 01:19.24 | tcgiant | I'm consistently top 5 damage in MC, using an arcane/fire build too |
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| 01:19.25 | TseTse | mc *shivers* |
| 01:19.25 | tcgiant | also I make people play portal roulette |
| 01:19.25 | norgs|laptop | i got a priest main only... but since i've seen tbc, i rolled a lock |
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| 01:19.26 | tcgiant | my guild just knocked over our first ragnaros last week |
| 01:19.26 | TseTse | i hope i never go into mc again, honestly |
| 01:19.30 | TseTse | oh, nice |
| 01:19.33 | tcgiant | yes |
| 01:19.37 | DJBlackwing | Portal roulette? lol |
| 01:19.39 | TseTse | my lock's guild just killed nef |
| 01:19.40 | tcgiant | I'm still 3rd lowest dkp in the guild |
| 01:19.45 | DJBlackwing | Summon all 3 on top of each other? |
| 01:19.53 | tcgiant | DJBlackwing: portal to stormforgedarnwindironnassus |
| 01:20.05 | DJBlackwing | nice |
| 01:20.10 | norgs|laptop | got her to 26 by the time i had to start coding and had to shelve her to do coding |
| 01:20.11 | TseTse | what i want to see... is blizzard sneak in MC Heroic mode |
| 01:20.19 | TseTse | and make it insanely hard |
| 01:20.24 | tcgiant | basically if you ask me for a port I will only ever give it if I either like you lots or you offer to pay, and I never actually charge for them |
| 01:20.56 | Imrcly | i charge 1g for everything |
| 01:21.00 | tcgiant | I hope the guy who wrote archud gets it up to date soon |
| 01:21.25 | tcgiant | Imrcly: I charge absurd amounts because I know people will get pissed and bother someone else |
| 01:21.26 | norgs|laptop | so - do any of you guys use gatherer? |
| 01:21.32 | TseTse | hell yea |
| 01:21.40 | tcgiant | I've heard good things but I don't use it personally |
| 01:21.45 | Imrcly | exactly |
| 01:21.47 | *** mode/#norganna [+v Cera] by norgs|laptop |
| 01:21.55 | TseTse | ive been testin the svn build too |
| 01:21.56 | tcgiant | I do use enchantrix all the time though |
| 01:21.57 | *** mode/#norganna [+v graymouser] by norgs|laptop |
| 01:22.03 | *** mode/#norganna [+v Mike-N-Go_] by norgs|laptop |
| 01:22.08 | *** mode/#norganna [+v Miravlix] by norgs|laptop |
| 01:22.16 | DJBlackwing | I do Norgs |
| 01:22.18 | *** mode/#norganna [+v TseTse] by norgs|laptop |
| 01:22.21 | Cera | no, not voice! |
| 01:23.00 | tcgiant | I should clear out my addons folder |
| 01:23.08 | tcgiant | all my now-garbage mods |
| 01:23.12 | Imrcly | moo |
| 01:23.15 | norgs|laptop | TseTse: Current SVN is almost stable TseTse |
| 01:23.25 | TseTse | very nice. how's the main map stuff? |
| 01:23.32 | TseTse | was lookin stable a few hours ago |
| 01:23.38 | tcgiant | I'm interested to see how the changes to auto-spellcasting will affect gameplay and future mods though |
| 01:23.41 | norgs|laptop | non-existant... it doesn't error though :) |
| 01:23.46 | TseTse | heh |
| 01:23.49 | tcgiant | good thing I've got remove curse mapped |
| 01:24.14 | TseTse | oh, i couldnt turn off mining nodes from showing on minimap. im sure you know that |
| 01:24.16 | norgs|laptop | actually... i'm tossing up whether todo main map first or the gui config |
| 01:24.28 | Cera | improved error frame is a must have for everyone in 2.0 |
| 01:24.44 | Cera | unless you like being spammed by addon errors |
| 01:24.48 | tcgiant | yar |
| 01:24.53 | TseTse | do whichever you dread doing the most first ;-p |
| 01:24.54 | tcgiant | or "disable all yr old shit" |
| 01:25.12 | norgs|laptop | that'd be the GUI |
| 01:25.17 | tcgiant | yeah |
| 01:25.19 | TseTse | heh |
| 01:25.30 | tcgiant | I just hope the latest distro of cosmos is all good as new |
| 01:25.38 | tcgiant | ...or I'm gonna be boned |
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| 01:25.45 | Malivil | tcgiant: The Alpha is |
| 01:25.49 | Malivil | Or should be |
| 01:25.49 | tcgiant | nice |
| 01:25.49 | norgs|laptop | it should be good |
| 01:25.51 | tcgiant | I'll snag it |
| 01:26.01 | norgs|laptop | they got like a thousand people working on it |
| 01:26.14 | tcgiant | I can't play without mobileframes, popbar, and better keybinding |
| 01:26.28 | tcgiant | and bar options |
| 01:26.35 | Bleeter | a couple of realms are up.. can't get to char selection tho :)) |
| 01:26.42 | Malivil | MoveAnything! Flexbar |
| 01:26.47 | Bleeter | heya norgs|laptop \o/ |
| 01:26.47 | norgs|laptop | orly? |
| 01:26.48 | TseTse | all my "must have" addons are now workign except for flexbar and necrosis |
| 01:26.51 | tcgiant | I need a bar mod that doesn't use the standard actionbar slots at all |
| 01:26.56 | Malivil | Flexbar has a 2.0 beta up |
| 01:27.06 | Aphrodites | didn't work earlier |
| 01:27.10 | TseTse | i heard it didnt have basic command working |
| 01:27.15 | Bleeter | CC, Uther and Cenarion |
| 01:27.17 | Bleeter | were up |
| 01:27.18 | norgs|laptop | hmm - nice |
| 01:27.19 | Bleeter | down again |
| 01:27.19 | Malivil | It does, but the formatting is different |
| 01:27.24 | Maxemus | i was trying on the beta and flex2 bugged out |
| 01:27.25 | norgs|laptop | they're getting closer |
| 01:27.29 | tcgiant | so I can do things like put about five thousand different buttons on my screen at once |
| 01:27.34 | norgs|laptop | hi Bleeter |
| 01:28.45 | tcgiant | well I see cenarius echo isles lightbringer uther and cc but they're all down except echo isles |
| 01:28.55 | Cera | I'm not sure if nurfed is now using custom buttons but tivoli said it doesn't have the 120 button limit anymore so I assume so |
| 01:28.57 | Imrcly | my friends all use discord alot |
| 01:29.05 | Bleeter | yeah, they're bouncing around. i guess very limited live testing at the moment |
| 01:29.05 | tcgiant | dischord is barf |
| 01:29.14 | TseTse | i use nurfed units |
| 01:29.24 | Maxemus | i was using bartender3 since flex is a bit dead atm :) |
| 01:29.32 | tcgiant | oh snap wil wright was on colbert report last night D: |
| 01:29.34 | norgs|laptop | it's funny cause some of them say medium |
| 01:29.38 | Bleeter | up and down like the bleedin' assyrian empire |
| 01:30.09 | tcgiant | haw |
| 01:30.13 | TseTse | colbert and daily show need their own usenet group |
| 01:30.16 | norgs|laptop | prolly getting hammered every time they light up |
| 01:30.27 | tcgiant | alt.binaries.the.colbert.report |
| 01:30.31 | Bleeter | could be IP restrictions on the backend |
| 01:30.36 | Bleeter | for live testing |
| 01:30.42 | TseTse | orly. lemme see if my server has that group |
| 01:30.51 | Imrcly | hrmm |
| 01:30.55 | tcgiant | don't bother |
| 01:30.57 | tcgiant | just made it up |
| 01:31.01 | tcgiant | who do you use? |
| 01:31.20 | TseTse | lol |
| 01:31.25 | TseTse | verizon |
| 01:31.52 | tcgiant | I subscribe to easynews, I don't trust comcast with my bootlegged files |
| 01:31.56 | TseTse | they have absolutely fantastic usenet out of nyc |
| 01:32.14 | Maxemus | is there an updated watcher, it just gave an error on clicking a npc |
| 01:32.20 | Imrcly | im to lazy to use usenet |
| 01:32.26 | tcgiant | I'm gonna get sick of that "doong" sound |
| 01:32.37 | norgs|laptop | What's the error Maxemus |
| 01:32.57 | TseTse | how can you be too lazy for usenet? it's the ultimate lazy leeching |
| 01:33.13 | Maxemus | 2 secs need to grab it again, since i don't have imp error frame atm |
| 01:33.45 | Imrcly | i don't want to find a good server |
| 01:34.00 | norgs|laptop | they keep changing stuff... it's been hard to write code when the ground keeps moving |
| 01:35.32 | tcgiant | I love when people pack stuff with the entire directory structure from, like, the root dir of the volume on in |
| 01:35.42 | tcgiant | digging through directories is super fun |
| 01:36.13 | Bleeter | particularly with mods, that are supposed to be mac/windows compatible |
| 01:36.17 | tcgiant | exactly |
| 01:36.22 | tcgiant | wtblazy |
| 01:36.36 | tcgiant | downloading alpha vers of your addons now norg |
| 01:36.38 | Bleeter | makes me always question the abilities of the authors, and thus I think less of the mod |
| 01:36.45 | tcgiant | gonna grab gatherer and have fun with that |
| 01:36.47 | Bleeter | no matter how good they are |
| 01:36.52 | tcgiant | exactly |
| 01:37.10 | tcgiant | having it set up to unpack a mod dir is fine by me |
| 01:37.16 | norgs|laptop | I'll be interested to hear how people like the guild/party/raid sharing |
| 01:37.19 | tcgiant | in fact that's the way it should be |
| 01:37.21 | Maxemus | okies the gatherer error is Error: attempt to call global 'GatherMain_Draw' (a nil value)String: Gatherer_WorldMapDisplay:OnClickCount: 1 when hide/show on world map button clicked |
| 01:37.31 | tcgiant | hold on going to go kill my roommate |
| 01:37.51 | Maxemus | and the error produced by watcher is Error: attempt to index field 'scans' (a nil value)AddOn: WatcherFile: Watcher_quest.luaLine: 30Count: 1 when u click a fligh master |
| 01:37.56 | Maxemus | flight master |
| 01:37.59 | TseTse | i just updated too. gonna fly around |
| 01:38.23 | Maxemus | also occurs when u click a quest giver |
| 01:38.24 | tcgiant | k back |
| 01:38.28 | Bleeter | norgs|laptop: when stuff goes live, I'll be running SVN and taking a look at enchantrix/beancounter |
| 01:38.48 | norgs|laptop | Bleeter: cool |
| 01:38.48 | Bleeter | where for cases of stuff read 'realms' |
| 01:39.02 | tcgiant | I know nothing about lua code at all |
| 01:39.11 | tcgiant | but I do know how to break stuff |
| 01:39.20 | Bleeter | me neither, but debugging something is always a great way to learn a new language :) |
| 01:39.24 | tcgiant | haw |
| 01:39.39 | Bleeter | and seriously, the code norgs and his mates have, is clean to read |
| 01:39.44 | Bleeter | not like some mod's spaghetti |
| 01:39.45 | tcgiant | that's good |
| 01:40.08 | tcgiant | yeah, I've tried decompiling flash files before and I've been like "wow, how does this work at all" |
| 01:40.49 | tcgiant | obnoxious and unreadable code is a good sign that a dev is basically throwing in stuff until the program works |
| 01:41.11 | Maxemus | that ok as long as u clean it up after :) |
| 01:41.14 | Bleeter | yeah, these up and down realms to me smell of ip restrictions, and attempted fix, a check, restart realms, rinse, repeat |
| 01:41.15 | Imrcly | like my code |
| 01:42.06 | norgs|laptop | Maxemus: are you using svn? |
| 01:43.10 | tcgiant | I just keep running cosmos and thumbing the patch button |
| 01:43.11 | Imrcly | im just wondering whats svn? |
| 01:43.18 | tcgiant | wowinterface is timing out |
| 01:43.40 | Maxemus | just pulled if down from http://gathereraddon.com/ front page |
| 01:43.40 | Maxemus | it* |
| 01:43.44 | tcgiant | a few more up now |
| 01:43.57 | tcgiant | seeing a lot of fulls |
| 01:44.00 | Maxemus | > http://media.wowwatcher.com/addon/Watcher-1.0.34.zip |
| 01:45.26 | Cera | ~svn |
| 01:45.29 | purl | [subversion] version control software. see http://subversion.tigris.org/ it aims to be a better CVS than CVS. |
| 01:45.55 | Bleeter | more realms 'up'.. still can't get in hehe |
| 01:46.02 | tcgiant | heh |
| 01:46.08 | tcgiant | guessing you wouldn't stay in |
| 01:46.12 | Bleeter | heh, queue of 1255 on one :) |
| 01:46.46 | tcgiant | nice |
| 01:46.46 | Bleeter | none up with any of my toons, tho :( |
| 01:46.48 | norgs|laptop | i'm just testing a change to gatherer at the moment Maxemus |
| 01:46.59 | Maxemus | is the developers section of the DL's connected to the svn ? |
| 01:47.10 | norgs|laptop | i've got a fix for watcher as well, which i need to upload |
| 01:47.38 | Maxemus | auctioneer seems fairly solid :) and ty |
| 01:48.08 | TseTse | norgs|laptop, earlier i seemed to have "flickering" on my icons in the minimap, particularly with the data from my old files |
| 01:48.08 | norgs|laptop | holy hanna |
| 01:48.22 | tcgiant | archud needs to work with 2.0.1 D: |
| 01:48.25 | norgs|laptop | you get into one of these servers and the starting areas are *packed* |
| 01:48.44 | tcgiant | hahahahahhahahah |
| 01:48.44 | Bleeter | heh |
| 01:48.50 | Cera | why not go on beta norgs? |
| 01:48.58 | norgs|laptop | meh |
| 01:49.04 | norgs|laptop | want to try out live :) |
| 01:49.14 | Bleeter | norgs got a beta? |
| 01:49.15 | TseTse | i just tried to log into one of these servers lol |
| 01:49.19 | Bleeter | stabby stab stab |
| 01:49.22 | Bleeter | :P |
| 01:49.24 | TseTse | im stuck at "connected" |
| 01:49.27 | norgs|laptop | i'm on the train at the moment = only got about 10 mins left to my station anyhow |
| 01:49.44 | tcgiant | drathal's hud would be perfect if it just remembered your settings between characters |
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| 01:49.49 | Bleeter | on the train? oops, best stop stabbing you then. you know how these trains ecurity types these days |
| 01:49.55 | Bleeter | they actually seem to pay attention |
| 01:50.07 | TseTse | 2696 queue lol |
| 01:51.33 | Cera | Bleeter I don't think that is universal across the world |
| 01:51.44 | Kiyla | Question... |
| 01:51.55 | Kiyla | is there a way to do a mass reset of items? |
| 01:51.58 | Bleeter | dont have passenger trains here, so I guess you're right ;) |
| 01:52.33 | norgs|laptop | nah - our trains are pretty lax |
| 01:53.19 | Bleeter | whoa, a whole bunch more just came up |
| 01:53.34 | Bleeter | still none with my chars tho |
| 01:54.27 | Bleeter | tip of the day: oceanic realms |
| 01:54.35 | Bleeter | it's midday, no queue ;) |
| 01:54.35 | TseTse | holy... lag |
| 01:55.04 | Imrcly | yay one of my realms is up and full |
| 01:55.13 | TseTse | i got into malganis |
| 01:55.28 | Cera | Kiyla, just delete your WTF\Account\[username]\SavedVariables\[addon name].lua file to clear all saved data for that addon |
| 01:55.48 | tcgiant | NOOOOOOOOOO POPBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR |
| 01:55.49 | tcgiant | :( |
| 01:56.45 | tcgiant | gonna have to see if I can get a manual ver |
| 01:57.07 | Maxemus | pop bar is in the cosmosui alpha for wow2.0 |
| 01:57.39 | Maxemus | 'll check if it works |
| 01:57.39 | tcgiant | really |
| 01:57.44 | tcgiant | it says it's incompatible |
| 01:57.56 | tcgiant | says the same for enchantrix alpha too |
| 01:58.45 | Imrcly | fubars are bubar |
| 01:58.49 | Kiyla | i want to find a way to clear just enchanting data... because i use enchantrix and it wont update the prices.. |
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| 01:59.22 | tcgiant | ooooh new loading art |
| 01:59.26 | tcgiant | :3 |
| 01:59.44 | Bleeter | hmmm, no 'addons' byutton on char selection. i must've put them somewhere wrong :/ |
| 01:59.55 | Cera | enchantrix doesn't work in 2.0 |
| 02:00.13 | NivFreak | doh |
| 02:00.21 | Bleeter | not surpised, I believe it's completely untested |
| 02:00.26 | NivFreak | I didn't notice that all my addons were going to break ;) |
| 02:00.28 | Bleeter | and I've also heard there's a new UI for enchanting |
| 02:00.34 | Bleeter | so doubly unsuprised |
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| 02:01.08 | Maxemus | yeah popbar is kinda working :P |
| 02:01.08 | Kiyla | whats the new enchanting UI? |
| 02:01.09 | Cera | yeah, you can filter it for only thing you have mats to do |
| 02:01.21 | Cera | they should have added that filter to other professions... |
| 02:02.31 | Bleeter | lol everyone naked and unknown when I logged in, very amusing |
| 02:03.10 | GulakaonMalygos | is this where I volunteer to be a guinea pig...I mean, 'beta tester' for the new version of auctioneer? |
| 02:03.17 | Maxemus | tcgiant: check your dcc |
| 02:03.24 | tcgiant | I saw that gimme ten seconds |
| 02:03.32 | tcgiant | I forgot why I didn't like dhud :/ |
| 02:04.56 | Bleeter | heh, my first attempt to scan the AH was met with 'autioneer isnot loaded' |
| 02:05.23 | Imrcly | retrieving character list hooray |
| 02:05.28 | tcgiant | max send that again |
| 02:06.09 | Maxemus | sent |
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| 02:13.25 | tcgiant | gah |
| 02:13.29 | tcgiant | enough with the dcc |
| 02:13.39 | tcgiant | wtf my fonts got super dumb |
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| 02:14.06 | tcgiant | damn trillian |
| 02:14.35 | tcgiant | max did you get my msg |
| 02:14.52 | Maxemus | nope |
| 02:15.13 | Maxemus | u need to register to send priv msg i think unless u have already |
| 02:15.31 | tcgiant | damn |
| 02:15.34 | tcgiant | tcgiant@tcgiant.com |
| 02:15.47 | Maxemus | okies |
| 02:20.33 | Maxemus | got it ? |
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| 02:22.38 | tcgiant | thanks |
| 02:22.46 | tcgiant | gonna have to use archud super b&w ver |
| 02:23.27 | Imrcly | i can't get on my mains server |
| 02:23.40 | Imrcly | it won't get past loading character list |
| 02:24.03 | Imrcly | i want to go to the bedroom so i wont have to talk to your mom or sister |
| 02:24.08 | Imrcly | lol |
| 02:24.11 | Imrcly | mistell |
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| 02:27.40 | ScratchMonkey | just pulled code from svn, I see %version% and friends, is there a script that populates those? I didn't see any kind of packaging script eg. in Installer |
| 02:27.49 | tcgiant | this is rediculous |
| 02:28.00 | tcgiant | hay blizz just be happy with something for once |
| 02:28.58 | ScratchMonkey | yeah, why move up to pentium with a 6502 was good enough for us? ;) |
| 02:29.04 | tcgiant | the worst part: I screwed up a talent point D: |
| 02:29.12 | ScratchMonkey | ouch |
| 02:29.14 | tcgiant | yeah |
| 02:29.36 | ScratchMonkey | mis-click, or just judged it wrong? did you do your tree ahead of time with the calculator? |
| 02:29.41 | tcgiant | so you're saying that in breaking all my addons they actually improved functionality |
| 02:29.48 | Imrcly | can you read my text? |
| 02:30.00 | tcgiant | well they're using some new font which is 3x harder to read when the UI is zoomed |
| 02:30.01 | ScratchMonkey | upgrades always break things, it's a rule of nature |
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| 02:30.33 | tcgiant | I can't believe I have to disable mobhealth2 |
| 02:30.37 | tcgiant | this is atrocious |
| 02:30.38 | tcgiant | :( |
| 02:30.50 | ScratchMonkey | did the author not upgrade it? |
| 02:30.53 | jaws | guys, I may be retarded, but how do you enable "old addons" i can't remember where the option is |
| 02:31.23 | Cairenn | on the character select screen, addons button, but it won't work with this patch |
| 02:31.23 | ScratchMonkey | i haven't connected to the game, but i'll bet they disabled that to prevent using incompatible LUA, since the fundamental language changed so drastically |
| 02:31.36 | Cairenn | mods *must* be updated |
| 02:31.41 | ScratchMonkey | that's why this is a major version jump, not just an incremental 1.x |
| 02:32.24 | ScratchMonkey | fortunately they didn't waste programmer hours building in a reverse-compatibility subsystem |
| 02:32.24 | tcgiant | wowinterface is acting like an asshole now too :( |
| 02:32.33 | Maxemus | to many people hitting it tc |
| 02:32.34 | jaws | really? On auctioneer's homepage it says it mostly works....they're wrong? |
| 02:32.52 | Maxemus | autioneer seems to be working fine |
| 02:32.58 | Maxemus | using the dev version |
| 02:33.03 | Cairenn | no, it's been updated :p |
| 02:33.12 | jaws | really? not for me....ah, dev version works? |
| 02:33.14 | Cairenn | and yeah, we're getting smacked, unfortunately |
| 02:33.20 | ScratchMonkey | so what's the process for going from a svn export to an installable file? I mostly want to know what I need to do about the %version% constants |
| 02:33.28 | Bleeter | norgs: it'll take me a little while to get going. my enchanter toon is missing gear, and my main (who's got the cash for auctioneer) has no quests in her log |
| 02:33.40 | Bleeter | working on trying to find out wtf gives with that before getting on to mods |
| 02:33.48 | tcgiant | so wtf I can't disable blizzard's target frames properly |
| 02:34.26 | jaws | hey maxemus, where'd you find the dev. version? |
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| 02:35.13 | jaws | nmind |
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| 02:36.57 | Maxemus | hey tc this might help u http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=370#devzone |
| 02:37.08 | Maxemus | ipopbar its called for PTR/TBC |
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| 02:37.31 | tcgiant | you know what no |
| 02:37.40 | tcgiant | any of those mega action bar ones support keybindings |
| 02:37.58 | tcgiant | I'm done with this, bar options doesn't work and so all my buttons are completely destroyed |
| 02:38.10 | Maxemus | bartender3 is a good one |
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| 02:38.30 | Maxemus | has keybindings and such |
| 02:38.40 | Bleeter | yup, all my quests on my main are gone :( |
| 02:38.41 | tcgiant | I'm about to scream so I'll try anything |
| 02:38.51 | Maxemus | 2 secs grabbing link |
| 02:38.55 | tcgiant | k |
| 02:38.55 | AnonUser1629 | can i access the data from the auctioneer program in notepad or something? |
| 02:39.00 | tcgiant | does it work |
| 02:39.12 | tcgiant | all my lootlink stuff is gone, atlasloot isn't working any more |
| 02:39.29 | tcgiant | I hate to react in such a fashion but this is some serious bullcrap |
| 02:39.30 | Maxemus | http://www.wowace.com/files/Ace2/ http://www.wowace.com/files/Bartender3/ |
| 02:39.41 | Maxemus | u'll need the files from the bottom of thoose pages |
| 02:39.43 | tcgiant | oh hay I love combing dirs |
| 02:41.47 | ScratchMonkey | AnonUser1629: yes, it's just a text file |
| 02:41.59 | AnonUser1629 | whitch file plz |
| 02:42.05 | Maxemus | ah lol don't use that PopBar, it just spat 146 errors at me |
| 02:42.29 | tcgiant | well it was nice until NOW |
| 02:42.36 | ScratchMonkey | I'd assume Auctioneer.lua under WTF somewhere, but check the code source to be sure |
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| 02:45.16 | tcgiant | 8/10 connects results in disconnects |
| 02:45.49 | tcgiant | ace doesn't work |
| 02:45.52 | tcgiant | missing some stuff |
| 02:46.07 | Lycanthor | How do I help test? |
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| 02:46.18 | norgs | so you guys are having fun with post 2.0 addons eh? |
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| 02:46.20 | TriSec | Hello |
| 02:46.36 | norgs | Hi :) |
| 02:46.39 | TriSec | Having a hard time switching to 2.0 :'( |
| 02:46.54 | TriSec | Can't seem to find updated mods |
| 02:46.56 | Bleeter | norgs: nah, having fun with post 2.0.1 missing items and empty quest logs :/ |
| 02:46.57 | tcgiant | ace and bartender won't work, max, says they need some other addons |
| 02:47.12 | Bleeter | four chars effected so far :'( |
| 02:47.24 | tcgiant | I found sites with updated ones but theyr'e all down |
| 02:47.29 | TriSec | That's not good Bleeter, I feel your pain... |
| 02:47.40 | Maxemus | which tcg? |
| 02:47.54 | Bleeter | i'm loathed to test any addons right now, given my current issues |
| 02:47.56 | TriSec | THey prob shut them down in fear of crash, too much bandwith |
| 02:48.09 | Bleeter | i'm still hoping it's some latency induced problem |
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| 02:48.49 | TriSec | Hey Ked |
| 02:48.51 | Lycanthor | Even WoW's site is having major problems. |
| 02:48.55 | Kedearian | Hi |
| 02:49.12 | Kedearian | I was just checking on the status of my favorite addon, and i'd like to help beta test if you still need people |
| 02:49.29 | Lycanthor | Is there an Alpha release of auctioneer available for testing yet? Or is that what you mean by Dec. 19? |
| 02:49.33 | TriSec | I'm up for beta testing too |
| 02:50.18 | tcgiant | wowinterface had them |
| 02:50.45 | tcgiant | ok so now about 60% of the time I log in and no icons work and my own character doesn't load |
| 02:50.45 | Lycanthor | I saw that. Site is definately down now of course. |
| 02:50.48 | TriSec | worldofwar.net had some...but not too many good ones (AKA Titan Bar/Auctioneer) |
| 02:50.49 | Maxemus | tcgiant : download Bartender3-r19311.zip and then unzip that, then unzip Bartender3.zip over the top of the 19311 version, this will give u the libs that are missing then replace the one u have in your interface folder |
| 02:51.04 | Cairenn | we're back up, at least at the moment ... sorry guys, the load is just insane =/ |
| 02:51.06 | tcgiant | and I STILL CAN'T DISABLE THE [profanity] BLIZZARD PORTRAITS |
| 02:51.27 | tcgiant | where the hell did that option gooooooooooo |
| 02:52.24 | Imrcly | aaaarfggggg |
| 02:53.14 | Imrcly | its not working |
| 02:53.36 | Lycanthor | WorldofWar.net is down too: As you know we are bring hammered :) I am going to bring another server online shortly |
| 02:53.36 | Lycanthor | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:53.37 | Lycanthor | Hang tight! |
| 02:53.37 | Lycanthor | Rushster |
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| 02:54.58 | Lycanthor | Hey, this just worked: http://provost.wowinterface.com/downloads/download5752-Auctioneer_3.9_WoW_2.0_Version |
| 02:55.05 | TriSec | I miss Panza... |
| 02:55.15 | Maxemus | panza :'( |
| 02:55.27 | TriSec | Pearl....Auctioneer...SCT...titan bar... |
| 02:55.36 | Imrcly | my server.... |
| 02:55.42 | Maxemus | perl working, titan working, sct working :) |
| 02:55.52 | Maxemus | auctioneer dev is working too |
| 02:55.57 | fnord___ | I'd be happy if my old hunter scripts worked |
| 02:56.04 | Imrcly | i want my server |
| 02:57.07 | Kedearian | foudn a collecition that works |
| 02:57.18 | Kedearian | Aethra's TBC... 20 or so addons |
| 02:57.35 | Kedearian | yeah they killed the point of scripts didnt they? |
| 02:57.43 | Kedearian | they cant call any skills while in combat |
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| 02:58.07 | Imrcly | yeah |
| 02:58.15 | sn0n | is there a broken beta even? |
| 02:58.15 | TriSec | where at Ked? |
| 02:58.16 | Maxemus | i got a clickheal that works :) clique |
| 02:58.21 | sn0n | this is where i can make a KILLING in ah |
| 02:58.24 | sn0n | since noone else has it |
| 02:58.25 | sn0n | LoL |
| 02:58.43 | tcgiant | deleted my whole wtf folder |
| 02:58.58 | sn0n | your update deleted it? |
| 02:59.06 | sn0n | omg.. id.. :: runs to check :: |
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| 02:59.33 | mossy | could you put up that link again my browser restarted |
| 02:59.46 | sn0n | noooooooooo |
| 03:00.06 | Bleeter | l/me breathes out as his items re-appear (I wasn't getting the red ?, or anything, previously) |
| 03:00.16 | DJBlackwing | omg lag |
| 03:00.20 | Bleeter | (with the missing quests) |
| 03:00.21 | sn0n | :: cries :: |
| 03:00.42 | TriSec | I'll just do with what I have for now...when things quiet down, I'll be good to go :D |
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| 03:00.46 | TriSec | See ya all later |
| 03:01.05 | Bleeter | TriSec: cya, take care |
| 03:01.07 | ScratchMonkey | thanks for reminding me, i just went and zipped my wtf tree before starting the new version |
| 03:01.10 | Kedearian | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6389-AethrasAnthology.html |
| 03:01.33 | sn0n | lol |
| 03:01.41 | Imrcly | stupid retrieving character list for my main |
| 03:01.43 | sn0n | my last backup was like a month ago |
| 03:01.44 | sn0n | LoL |
| 03:01.45 | Kedearian | thats not nice sn0n |
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| 03:02.09 | sn0n | well.. at least i can get good arse deals on things i do know the price for |
| 03:02.23 | MentalPower | hey guys |
| 03:02.27 | Bleeter | what has that got to do with kicking me? |
| 03:02.30 | Bleeter | heya MP! :D |
| 03:02.47 | sn0n | lol |
| 03:02.54 | sn0n | i need an unstable version |
| 03:02.54 | sn0n | LoL |
| 03:02.55 | sn0n | now |
| 03:02.57 | sn0n | ;-) |
| 03:03.06 | Bleeter | well l2r and go get one |
| 03:03.11 | sn0n | i just need scan, and search auctions |
| 03:03.25 | Maxemus | sn0n just read the auctioner homepage, downloads, dev section |
| 03:03.29 | AnonUser5026 | http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/AuctioneerComplete/ |
| 03:03.31 | sn0n | Bleeter, i was referring to a beta version of auctioneer that works |
| 03:03.38 | sn0n | oo.. the betas are 'compatible'? |
| 03:03.53 | Maxemus | http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/AuctioneerComplete/auctioneerpack-3.9.0.1111.zip |
| 03:04.00 | Imrcly | no they are still writing for the old version |
| 03:04.14 | Bleeter | i'm writing for wow 1.5 |
| 03:04.18 | MentalPower | lol, nice Imrcly :P |
| 03:04.20 | AnonUser5026 | as if 1:45 today? |
| 03:04.25 | AnonUser5026 | err as of rather |
| 03:04.31 | Bleeter | i figure one day, when retro wow becomes a fashion, i'll be leet |
| 03:04.40 | sn0n | auctioneerpack-3.9.0.1111.tar.gz 2006-12-05 01:45:44994,267 bytes Alpha |
| 03:04.47 | sn0n | = not working |
| 03:04.51 | AnonUser5026 | boo |
| 03:04.51 | Imrcly | always private servers |
| 03:05.00 | sn0n | lol |
| 03:05.01 | Maxemus | auctioneerpack-3.9.0.1111.zip - works great on TBC |
| 03:05.21 | Bleeter | which is a different UI etc. to live, so expect breakage |
| 03:05.52 | Maxemus | not if the final has been released i.e 2.0.1 since they share the same ui changes i believe |
| 03:06.03 | AlleriaOkin | 3.9.0.1111 isn't breaking so much as listed as incompatable |
| 03:06.24 | Maxemus | edit the .toc to 20000 for now :P |
| 03:06.25 | Bleeter | Maxemus: in theory yes, in practice no guarntee |
| 03:06.27 | MentalPower | sn0n: it works for me :) |
| 03:06.33 | sn0n | :: tries again :: |
| 03:06.52 | Maxemus | Bleeter : true ;) |
| 03:07.01 | Bleeter | still, it was quite odd first time I tried to scan the AH it told me that I needed to load auctioneer |
| 03:07.25 | tcgiant | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:08.14 | sn0n | man.. my old data is soo old :-/ |
| 03:08.14 | MentalPower | Bleeter: known bug, feel free to fix it :) |
| 03:09.00 | sn0n | anyone here play on kalecgos? |
| 03:09.06 | sn0n | and has old ah data |
| 03:09.23 | Bleeter | I've been away from IRC too long, what's the dang / equiv of a /w ? |
| 03:09.30 | Bleeter | (ie, privmsg of some type) |
| 03:09.36 | sn0n | query |
| 03:09.40 | Maxemus | . /msg i think |
| 03:09.41 | Imrcly | i might for horde sde |
| 03:09.55 | Bleeter | msg, thx |
| 03:09.59 | sn0n | Imrcly, hrmm.. im alliance |
| 03:10.09 | sn0n | query works too :-; |
| 03:10.31 | sn0n | query is raw, i believe /msg is a hack from mIRC days.. ;-) |
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| 03:11.54 | sn0n | ohh wow |
| 03:11.56 | sn0n | yey!!!! |
| 03:12.01 | sn0n | have my old data |
| 03:12.04 | sn0n | it didnt delete |
| 03:12.06 | sn0n | w00t w00t |
| 03:12.40 | Lycanthor | Did you just extract into the old directory? |
| 03:12.49 | Maxemus | it should put it in a folder dated from when u installed the patch |
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| 03:13.23 | sn0n | uhmmm |
| 03:13.32 | sn0n | i think manual search is broken.. known bug? |
| 03:13.57 | MentalPower | how broken? |
| 03:14.19 | sn0n | \Addons\Auctioneer\Database\AucSnapshotDB.lua:1069: attempt to compare number with string |
| 03:14.21 | Bleeter | svn seems to get 'stuck' 'searching for items...' |
| 03:14.28 | sn0n | thats when selecting 'search' |
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| 03:15.09 | Bleeter | that error is thrown if you press the search button after it gets 'stuck' searching |
| 03:15.24 | sn0n | when had Weapons : Daggers highlighted, when i use reg search all sections, no filtering, it just dont search |
| 03:15.34 | Bleeter | (ie, try to search again after it gets stuck in an infinite loop) |
| 03:15.51 | sn0n | hows that infinite loop happen? i seem to get that alot |
| 03:15.59 | sn0n | i always thought it was a bug with 'useable' items |
| 03:16.11 | Maxemus | so could u just unload it b4 u search and reload after? |
| 03:16.13 | sn0n | since thats always when it happened, and i'd have to restart WoW |
| 03:16.28 | Maxemus | auctioner that is |
| 03:16.32 | Imrcly | well my mod still seems to work so i will upload that once the servers unhammer |
| 03:16.46 | Bleeter | Maxemus: unloading and reloading has always been hit and miss for fixing the loop with me |
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| 03:17.02 | Maxemus | ah well was just a guess :) |
| 03:17.03 | bev | hey, i am interested in testing the newest auctioneer |
| 03:17.13 | bev | anything i should know when testing it? |
| 03:17.21 | MentalPower | sn0n: known bug |
| 03:17.25 | sn0n | thnx MentalPower |
| 03:17.28 | Lycanthor | bev: It won't work 100% |
| 03:17.30 | MentalPower | Bleeter: that one's related to sn0n's |
| 03:17.45 | sn0n | bev, : it ownt work. lol |
| 03:17.48 | Bleeter | mp: yeah, figured as much... I'm going to switch to my enchanter |
| 03:17.59 | sn0n | chanters are nerfed now too |
| 03:18.06 | sn0n | i have to actually level the twerp now |
| 03:18.07 | sn0n | :-( |
| 03:18.12 | sn0n | stupid disenchanting levels |
| 03:18.34 | Bleeter | I don't consider it a nerf, I consider it a fix for a problem that was wide open to abuse |
| 03:18.58 | sn0n | hehe |
| 03:19.07 | sn0n | but my lvl one is gonna take FOREVER to lvl |
| 03:19.07 | sn0n | lol |
| 03:19.23 | Bleeter | the change was announced some time ago |
| 03:19.25 | sn0n | ohh yes!!!! i forgot i lvl'd him to 20 a couple weekends ago.. LoL |
| 03:20.01 | Maxemus | damn only 5 hours to sleep nn guys :) |
| 03:20.36 | Bleeter | nn max |
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| 03:25.04 | tcgiant | well I had to blow up a lot of stuff but my UI works and doesn't generate tons of errors |
| 03:25.24 | Lycanthor | "blow up?" |
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| 03:40.05 | tcgiant | I relate a lot of stuff to explosions |
| 03:40.07 | Imrcly | moo |
| 03:40.11 | tcgiant | so I turned things off |
| 03:40.19 | Imrcly | still can't get on my server |
| 03:40.22 | tcgiant | but I have almost 400 int right now with no buffs so that makes me happy |
| 03:40.36 | tcgiant | looks like less mana per int for mages now though :( |
| 03:41.08 | Imrcly | oh that sucks |
| 03:41.31 | Imrcly | my mana pool was just about to break 7000 |
| 03:42.20 | tcgiant | your pool will be about the same |
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| 03:42.38 | tcgiant | thx to the change of arc mind from mana to int though I have about as much mana now unbuffed as I had buffed |
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| 03:42.49 | Imrcly | oh |
| 03:42.54 | Imrcly | ok good |
| 03:43.29 | AnonUser0307 | hi |
| 03:43.46 | Imrcly | moo |
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| 03:47.28 | tcgiant | apparently netherwind shoulders look different now :( |
| 03:47.35 | Bleeter | baaaa |
| 03:47.49 | MentalPower | yeahm their particle effects are over-accelerated |
| 03:47.54 | Imrcly | im still on magisters |
| 03:47.56 | tcgiant | how so |
| 03:47.58 | tcgiant | I want to see |
| 03:48.05 | tcgiant | lootlink is broken and atlasloot is too |
| 03:49.21 | Bleeter | from memory, after each major patch, the ID's for each item change |
| 03:49.31 | Imrcly | SERVERALERT: |
| 03:49.31 | Imrcly | [7:40 PM PST - December 5, 2006] |
| 03:49.31 | Imrcly | Our network administrators are continuing to work on the authentication issues affecting a select number of realms. We will provide another update in approximately 30 minutes. |
| 03:49.32 | Bleeter | either way, I'm not suprised |
| 03:49.39 | MentalPower | err... thats not correct |
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| 03:49.45 | MentalPower | ItemID's rarely change |
| 03:49.45 | Imrcly | yay mine is one of those |
| 03:49.51 | NivFreak | I think everything is working for me, except itemizer |
| 03:50.09 | MentalPower | I would be *really* surprised if itemizer worked :P |
| 03:50.11 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 03:50.17 | NivFreak | I just disabled it ;) |
| 03:50.19 | AnonUser0307 | Any idea what has to be tweaked in the lua files to get them to work with 2.0? |
| 03:50.33 | tcgiant | hahah |
| 03:50.35 | Imrcly | i was surprised my mod is working since it involves targeting |
| 03:50.42 | tcgiant | MentalPower: you haven't updated it? |
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| 03:50.50 | Bleeter | MP: My bad... I seem to recall someone explaining to me why ll and itemizer may not work after a patch, I clearly got everything wrong ;) |
| 03:51.06 | MentalPower | thats cause the server hasn't seen the items in question |
| 03:51.09 | NivFreak | MentalPower: any hope for it? ;) |
| 03:51.25 | MentalPower | potentially causing a DC when one of those items is linked |
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| 03:51.36 | MentalPower | NivFreak: once I get the others working, sure |
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| 03:52.45 | bnovc | quite a few more people here than i expected |
| 03:53.00 | MentalPower | me too :) |
| 03:53.19 | bnovc | i just joined to find out what the word norganna was actually ;) |
| 03:53.46 | bnovc | i was surprised that other people playing warcraft realized what IRC was and they have exams as posted in the article |
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| 03:55.37 | SuperTech | I would like to request a beta copy of Auctioneer for patch 2.0 since that is how I make my gold in-game |
| 03:55.55 | NivFreak | heh |
| 03:55.58 | Imrcly | moo |
| 03:56.00 | bnovc | ... |
| 03:56.47 | bnovc | SuperTech: http://auctioneeraddon.com/scm/browser/trunk/auctioneer |
| 03:56.48 | MentalPower | SuperTech: read the topic |
| 03:57.08 | MentalPower | guys, dev downloads are there for a reason :) |
| 03:57.26 | MentalPower | they put less stress on the server than an SVN checkout |
| 03:57.41 | SuperTech | ah, 3.9 dated today, danke |
| 03:58.08 | norgs | "I'd hate to have to butt heads against another site though. And feel like we could really help each other out, even allocating server resources to your other projects. Doing it all solo gets a bit overwhelming after a while :)" |
| 03:58.31 | bnovc | MentalPower: how many downloads do you guys get a day? bet it was a hard hit today? |
| 03:58.49 | norgs | That's what I got from a guy who wants me to join WoWWatcher with his site |
| 03:59.15 | norgs | I've got em worried... |
| 03:59.17 | MentalPower | bnovc: dunno, norgs would have that info |
| 04:00.43 | norgs | not really that hard |
| 04:01.00 | norgs | harder, but we didn't have anything for them to download |
| 04:01.51 | bnovc | norgs: thousands of people hit it? |
| 04:02.10 | norgs | http://norganna.org/usagestats/usage_200612.html |
| 04:02.28 | bnovc | nice |
| 04:03.46 | bnovc | you would make quite a bit of money off ads |
| 04:04.24 | norgs | Nope |
| 04:04.36 | TseTse | man, anybody else get really screwd up bags? |
| 04:04.38 | bnovc | why don't you think so? |
| 04:04.38 | norgs | cause I would never run ads |
| 04:04.48 | bnovc | thats very...moral...of you |
| 04:05.43 | norgs | that's very...diplomatic...of you :p |
| 04:06.18 | bnovc | i think if i had that many hits on any of my individual sites i'd be jumping to ads |
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| 04:07.10 | norgs | depends why you run the site in the first place, i guess |
| 04:07.59 | norgs | i can see that if you build a site to generate money, then sure... but this is my site for my addons, and i don't want it sullied... |
| 04:08.26 | bnovc | i figure that if i give away code, then i at least make some money for the time i spent doing it |
| 04:08.50 | norgs | that's why i have donations |
| 04:09.02 | bnovc | i bet you get very few of those |
| 04:09.43 | norgs | they've paid for every day of hosting that i've had so far |
| 04:09.43 | bnovc | did you read that the guy who made a new app a day for 30 days that was so popular only made $20 or something |
| 04:09.44 | norgs | that's all i really care about |
| 04:10.43 | norgs | karmic balance is everything |
| 04:11.02 | bnovc | so did blizzard make quite a few changes to their lua functions or something? |
| 04:11.04 | norgs | you don't want to piss off karma by earning a lot of money from little effort |
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| 04:12.08 | bnovc | blizzard doesn't seem to mind pissing off karma by making their game down for an entire day, breaking all addons, not having the expected features, and introducing a lot more bugs ;) |
| 04:13.20 | norgs | ahh, but all that negative energy from pissed off customers hating them actually turns into positive energy on their side to balance |
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| 04:13.51 | norgs | so by being angry at them, you're actually increasing their good fortune |
| 04:13.54 | sysrage | tsetse: i can't eat or drink or anything else from my all in one bags |
| 04:14.08 | Bleeter | I think it's more people's faulty expectations of what Blizzard actually does ;) |
| 04:14.09 | Sanpaku | dsf |
| 04:14.30 | Sanpaku | What's the news on when a beta version of Auctioneer might be up? |
| 04:14.45 | Bleeter | it's the same news as in topic |
| 04:14.49 | Bleeter | and .. posted elsewhere |
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| 04:14.52 | bnovc | Bleeter: i was expected maintence but i was thinking about 2 hrs less than the total was |
| 04:14.52 | Bleeter | in numerous places |
| 04:14.59 | Sanpaku | Topic |
| 04:15.04 | bnovc | *expecting |
| 04:15.08 | bnovc | Sanpaku: type /topic |
| 04:15.15 | Sanpaku | is wrapping off my screen -- I dont suppose an answer would be easy? |
| 04:15.17 | norgs | Ok, everyone who was waiting... Gatherer Alpha is updated |
| 04:15.26 | norgs | 2.99.0.0345 |
| 04:15.27 | Bleeter | personally, i'm suprised the realms have been up as long as they have |
| 04:15.31 | Sanpaku | /Topic -- not enough parameters |
| 04:15.46 | bnovc | Sanpaku: try /topic #norganna |
| 04:15.48 | Sanpaku | norgs -- where to get it? |
| 04:15.58 | bnovc | Bleeter: i figure it would be 2-3 hrs before i could login but that they would be up :) |
| 04:16.17 | norgs | Gatherer download page, scroll down the bottom and click on the Gatherer directory link |
| 04:16.27 | Bleeter | you misunderstand, I'm suprised they haven't been taken down yet for further fixing |
| 04:16.30 | MentalPower | Sanpaku: if you're using the web app, you can drag the topic to see the rest of it |
| 04:16.53 | Sanpaku | Mental -- not to belabor a point but why not say "perhaps around the 19th"? |
| 04:16.55 | bnovc | Bleeter: aren't they planned to be tomorrow for the arenas? |
| 04:17.16 | Bleeter | i'm talking the usual unplanned ones :P |
| 04:17.17 | MentalPower | Sanpaku: it does... |
| 04:17.46 | bnovc | Bleeter: maybe they figured its better to have 50% of their customers in bug hell than 100% angry about not being able to play |
| 04:17.53 | Sanpaku | MentalPower -- I know -- I finally found out -- I was asking why not jsut say that in the frist place? :} |
| 04:18.10 | MentalPower | meh |
| 04:18.15 | norgs | Sanpaku: cause that'd be no fun |
| 04:18.20 | Sanpaku | lol |
| 04:18.44 | Sanpaku | Im up to my eyeballs in Blizz strangeness -- cant we all hang together? heheheh |
| 04:18.52 | norgs | giving people the answers to the questions they ask, without making them go through hell first... what kind of a world would we make for our children? |
| 04:19.07 | Sanpaku | true true |
| 04:19.30 | Sanpaku | norgs -- there is an alpha for Auctineer? |
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| 04:20.18 | MentalPower | Sanpaku: topic again :) |
| 04:20.19 | Bleeter | mp: ok, ready to start hacking enx. any tips you could give where I should start off, would be appreciated ;-) |
| 04:20.40 | Imrcly | all my bank stuff is gone |
| 04:20.50 | Bleeter | yes, let's spend time in IRC answering questions that have already been answered and advertised |
| 04:20.56 | Bleeter | rather than spending time coding |
| 04:21.03 | MentalPower | Bleeter: I haven't even loaded it, Esamynn did the basic conversion, its now a testing/debugging effort |
| 04:21.37 | Sanpaku | you have real scheduling problems by saying things like "YES"? |
| 04:21.47 | Bleeter | MentalPower: rightio... I seem to recall a switch or something to increase the debug level to the framexml.log. Is my memory that hazy it's wrong on that score as well, or something better? |
| 04:22.05 | Bleeter | Sanpaku: multiple that single yes out by the number of people asking |
| 04:22.08 | MentalPower | Sanpaku: I coudl've said "yes" but then you would've asked where |
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| 04:22.30 | MentalPower | wich males it two questions that are already answered in the topic |
| 04:22.42 | Sanpaku | Bleeter -- so far -- one. Mental -- no mind reading now -- help or dont -- sheesh |
| 04:22.47 | Berkers | Jeesh, I LOVE LFG now, but was lost without Auctioneer stuff |
| 04:23.02 | MentalPower | s/males/makes/ |
| 04:23.12 | Bleeter | Sanpaku: there's a reason it's in /topic... we're sick of answering already |
| 04:23.27 | Bleeter | some people are sane enough to read /topic on entering a channel |
| 04:23.31 | bnovc | Berkers: i'm much more lost w/o CT |
| 04:23.31 | Sanpaku | wow -- two whole questions -- answered by "19th" and "yes" -- I can see how onorous that is |
| 04:23.42 | bnovc | Berkers: logged in, got attacked, tried to vanish and realized i didnt have the bar |
| 04:23.47 | Berkers | CT? |
| 04:23.51 | bnovc | Berkers: yea |
| 04:23.53 | MentalPower | dude, you're not the only one in this channel |
| 04:23.57 | Sanpaku | CTRA |
| 04:24.06 | bnovc | Berkers: http://www.ctmod.net/ |
| 04:24.06 | Sanpaku | Mental -- let's take it out of channel |
| 04:24.09 | Bleeter | CT have said they weren't going to release until they can confirm the live UI and test it |
| 04:24.21 | Berkers | ahh, OK, makes sense |
| 04:24.27 | Bleeter | like any sane mod author |
| 04:24.29 | MentalPower | we devs are a bit busy *trying* to get this stuff out, and you want us to answer questions already asked a zillion times |
| 04:24.31 | MentalPower | come on! |
| 04:24.33 | bnovc | Bleeter: well, they have a released version just not with the parts i care about and i dont like the new version |
| 04:24.45 | Sanpaku | Waht about "Not in Channel Please" did I fail to make clear? |
| 04:24.46 | sn0n | weeee |
| 04:24.47 | Bleeter | well, I'm not ct, so i don't care either |
| 04:24.58 | Firador | WHere can I get auctioneer .... :P ;) Just kidding I think it's the worst thing to say here downloaded already and going to try it right away |
| 04:25.01 | bnovc | Bleeter: do you use any others that have similiar functionality? |
| 04:25.16 | Bleeter | i'm not using anything at the moment |
| 04:25.23 | bnovc | Bleeter: well, obviously |
| 04:25.32 | Bleeter | trying to work on getting enchantrix done, but being hammered by people who need to learn IRC nettiquette |
| 04:25.36 | norgs | Sanpaku: it is our policy to not answer questions that are answered in the topic |
| 04:25.41 | bnovc | i think the CT author must run an enormous resolution to find the buff interface reasonable |
| 04:26.00 | sn0n | netiquette dont exists.. its a utopian myth |
| 04:26.14 | norgs | It's more work for us, but hoperfully it breeds better netziens |
| 04:26.15 | Sanpaku | norgs -- Is there a reason we're continuing on this topic? |
| 04:26.19 | Bleeter | it used to exist, but not since AOL got connected to the net |
| 04:26.28 | sn0n | lol |
| 04:26.30 | sn0n | ;) |
| 04:26.33 | sn0n | *_* |
| 04:26.36 | Sanpaku | as I explained, your title wrapped -- big deal |
| 04:26.40 | sn0n | and lets not forget.. |
| 04:26.42 | sn0n | asl |
| 04:27.04 | Sanpaku | really like to drop it now |
| 04:27.46 | sn0n | hrmmmm |
| 04:27.51 | Berkers | Auctioneer is a kik ass mod... but you only appreciate it fully when ya don't have it! LOL |
| 04:28.03 | sn0n | Berkers, indeed |
| 04:28.08 | Bleeter | hmm, I think it's FrameXML_Debug(flag) that I'd like to use, anyone got suggestions on what the flag actually is? just a switch, or something more complex? |
| 04:28.13 | norgs | Berkers: You testing the alpha |
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| 04:28.40 | MentalPower | Bleeter: 0/1 |
| 04:28.55 | Bleeter | thx |
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| 04:29.18 | Starman2098 | #channels |
| 04:29.26 | Mutka | hello |
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| 04:29.59 | Berkers | no, didn't know alpha was avail |
| 04:31.03 | bev | its been about 22 hours since the alpha was uploaded..i think its time for an updated version |
| 04:31.05 | Mutka | how do I get it to try test and report back bugs? |
| 04:31.21 | Berkers | ok, I'll go look for it |
| 04:31.22 | bev | please tell me you are drinking Jolt Cola with shots of expresso, MentalPower |
| 04:31.22 | sn0n | reporting bugs at this point is useless |
| 04:31.25 | norgs | Mutka: it's in the channel topic |
| 04:31.28 | sn0n | looks like they've all been reported |
| 04:31.29 | sn0n | lol |
| 04:31.32 | norgs | report bugs here |
| 04:31.42 | MentalPower | bev: mountain dew FTW! |
| 04:32.01 | norgs | I hear that mountain dew is evil shit... |
| 04:32.06 | bev | MentalPower: http://wilstar.com/caffeine.htm |
| 04:32.16 | Mutka | lol sorry didn't see it on the first download page ;) |
| 04:32.44 | Bleeter | mp: initial reaction to looking at enchantrix, seem to work, just needs some loving in the UI dept to move the buttons from behind the new options |
| 04:33.00 | Bleeter | somrthing I' pretty confident in being able to do :) |
| 04:33.18 | MentalPower | be my guest :) |
| 04:33.28 | MentalPower | BTW, the relevel() function needs a tweak |
| 04:33.37 | MentalPower | details in the AuctioneerUI.lua file |
| 04:33.41 | *** topic/#norganna by norgs -> Auctioneer 4.0 & Gatherer 3.0 release on Dec 19th | Alpha versions: http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl & http://gathereraddon.com/dl | http://norganna.pastey.net/ | Patience, my young padawan. |
| 04:33.54 | MentalPower | succinct :) |
| 04:33.59 | Bleeter | rightio, btw I'm a 203/225 ench, level 60 tho so not too much drama |
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| 04:34.22 | bev | i should make /dl/AuctioneerComplete/ my homepage ;p |
| 04:34.23 | Bleeter | just can't login to the mod author realm, the test char there is only lvl 2 and has no mats to DE anyways ;) |
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| 04:34.37 | MentalPower | I'm not on Draka either |
| 04:34.47 | MentalPower | I'm on my live server (Alleria) |
| 04:34.48 | bev | less irc more coding |
| 04:34.55 | Firador | Auctioneer Author : Just a question... Was Auctioneer totally functionning or I might get error messages ? |
| 04:34.57 | MentalPower | yes, I agree :P |
| 04:35.10 | Bleeter | Thorium Brotherhood here (RP), moved from Khaz'Goroth (Oceanic) for personal reasons |
| 04:35.16 | MentalPower | Firador: huh? |
| 04:35.17 | Firador | Auctioneer Author : If there might be errors where should I let you know ? |
| 04:35.18 | Bleeter | <waiting for coffee to brew before coding :P |
| 04:35.32 | MentalPower | Firador: here |
| 04:35.34 | norgs | Report them here |
| 04:35.51 | norgs | If it was fully functioning, they would be released |
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| 04:36.05 | Firador | I am receiving some errors wait I'll let you know exactly where |
| 04:36.09 | norgs | the whole process is about you finding bugs so we can fix them :) |
| 04:36.29 | Mutka | ;) i like finding bugs that get fixed :p |
| 04:36.57 | bev | by the way, thank you all for working on the various addons, much <333 |
| 04:37.25 | Mutka | yep me too |
| 04:37.52 | bev | no errors so far with the alpha, too! :D |
| 04:38.45 | Berkers | ok, downloaded the alpha vers, looks ok, but I'll keep checking it |
| 04:39.09 | TseTse | anybody else getting nasty errors with the bags? any way around it? |
| 04:39.25 | Firador | OK here goes : When trying to put something on Auction House : I am getting an error message that look like : ( I'm putting the auction through the Post Auction tab ) Error is : ...AddOns\Auctioneer\UserInterface\Auction FramePost.lua:401: Attempt to index global `auction` ( a nil value ) |
| 04:39.59 | Firador | Posted here and to MentalPower in private room |
| 04:40.20 | MentalPower | you can't PM if you're not registered :) (I didn't recieve it) |
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| 04:40.27 | Firador | ahhh dang it lol |
| 04:40.47 | Firador | Well I posted it here :P You know what is that error ? |
| 04:40.55 | *** topic/#norganna by norgs -> Auctioneer 4.0 & Gatherer 3.0 release on Dec 19th | Alpha versions: http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl & http://gathereraddon.com/dl | Post bugs here, Don't PM | http://norganna.pastey.net/ | Patience, my young padawan. |
| 04:41.00 | MentalPower | one sec |
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| 04:41.04 | Firador | k |
| 04:42.47 | bev | bleh, stubby is giving me errors now |
| 04:43.19 | Bleeter | i can't believe I mispelled end 3 times in a row :/ |
| 04:44.43 | MentalPower | Firador: fixed [1113] |
| 04:45.01 | MentalPower | bev: what kind of errors? |
| 04:45.10 | MentalPower | Bleeter: it happens :) |
| 04:45.44 | Firador | Mental : Is this one will be fixed too ? Another one - While doing a search ( normal search ) I'm getting : ...terface\AddOns\Database\AucSnapshotDB.lua:1069 : Attempt to compare nil with string |
| 04:46.11 | sn0n | im so lost without titan and wim |
| 04:46.12 | sn0n | :-( |
| 04:46.26 | MentalPower | for titan, use fubar |
| 04:46.31 | MentalPower | I dunno what wim is |
| 04:46.38 | MentalPower | Firador: nop separate issue |
| 04:46.40 | sn0n | its a chat client in simple words |
| 04:46.47 | Sanpaku | You know -- I Truly hate to ask anythign here but as it's not in your topic, the zip file download crashes zip as an invalid archive file. Is there someplace to look for that? |
| 04:46.51 | sn0n | turns all /tells into their own lil windows |
| 04:46.53 | Imrcly | wim is a need addon |
| 04:47.07 | sn0n | wim is AWESOME |
| 04:47.08 | MentalPower | telltrack |
| 04:47.18 | MentalPower | try out telltrack |
| 04:47.25 | sn0n | telltrack url? |
| 04:47.31 | Imrcly | which ui site? |
| 04:47.38 | Firador | Mental I'll let you work on those problems ;) The 1113 is not there yet :P So I'll check everything tomorrow... if I ever find anything else I'll let you know ;) I LOVE to find bugs :P It's my real life job lol |
| 04:47.49 | MentalPower | WoWI? |
| 04:48.01 | MentalPower | its a cosmos addon thats also released stand-alone |
| 04:48.04 | Sanpaku | okay -- well -- auctioneerpack-3.9.0.1111.zip seems to be corrupted -- thanks |
| 04:48.09 | MentalPower | by AnduinLothar |
| 04:48.17 | MentalPower | Sanpaku: I'll look at it, one sec |
| 04:48.26 | MentalPower | what zip program are you using? |
| 04:48.27 | bev | MentalPower: bliz just said stubby performed an action it didnt allow and i could ignore or disable the addon |
| 04:48.28 | Firador | It wasn't 5 minutes ago |
| 04:48.35 | sn0n | telltrack = negative |
| 04:48.37 | sn0n | wim = need |
| 04:48.41 | MentalPower | bev: DE'ing? |
| 04:48.43 | bev | yup |
| 04:48.47 | bev | ;p |
| 04:48.49 | MentalPower | known issue :) |
| 04:48.55 | MentalPower | still engineering the fix |
| 04:49.02 | Bleeter | <working on enchantrix right now ;) |
| 04:49.02 | Sanpaku | thx |
| 04:49.14 | sn0n | we should all stop talking.. and let them work on the addons.. LoL |
| 04:49.17 | sn0n | +m ftw |
| 04:49.22 | Sanpaku | WInZip 9.x |
| 04:49.23 | Imrcly | breaks ftw |
| 04:49.26 | MentalPower | bev: sources tell me that right clicking functions as a work around |
| 04:49.33 | Sanpaku | you didnt encrypt or something? |
| 04:49.34 | Sanpaku | :} |
| 04:49.37 | MentalPower | no |
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| 04:49.41 | MentalPower | that would be silly |
| 04:49.48 | Sanpaku | that it would. |
| 04:50.10 | sn0n | best MD since gay doogie hauser |
| 04:50.16 | Sanpaku | but the only thing I can think of is there's a newer version of WInZIp with a better implementation of AES |
| 04:50.28 | Sanpaku | you getting a clean unzip? |
| 04:50.42 | Firador | It was working REALLY fine with my WinRar |
| 04:50.53 | sn0n | uhmm.. winxp compressed folders ftw? |
| 04:51.19 | Firador | Mental : Just to be sure : I'll let you work on those problems ;) The 1113 is not there yet :P So I'll check everything tomorrow... if I ever find anything else I'll let you know ;) I LOVE to find bugs :P It's my real life job lol / And the known problem ... was it for the second problem I reported ? |
| 04:52.01 | Sanpaku | compressed folders was prior to WinZip wasnt it? |
| 04:52.28 | MentalPower | Firador: I'm looking at the second bug ATM |
| 04:52.40 | Sanpaku | however the .exe DL works |
| 04:52.47 | MentalPower | Sanpaku: I used 7-zip to extract it, and it works perfectly |
| 04:53.00 | Firador | Great Mental have a good night!!! |
| 04:53.01 | Sanpaku | crashes on mine -- how weird |
| 04:53.07 | Sanpaku | thanks for trying |
| 04:53.11 | MentalPower | I must admit, I haven't used WinZip in ages |
| 04:53.19 | Bleeter | mp: ok, it's working again, with the relevel stuff.. not to just move the buttons a bit, or maybe... reduce the wordage |
| 04:53.21 | Firador | WINRAR FTW !!! |
| 04:53.29 | bev | 7zip :D |
| 04:53.37 | bev | 7zip + shell integration holllaaaa |
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| 04:54.03 | MentalPower | Bleeter: your choice :) |
| 04:54.15 | Bleeter | I know :D |
| 04:54.19 | Bleeter | POWER! POWER! POWER! :P |
| 04:54.21 | MentalPower | lol |
| 04:54.27 | Sanpaku | lol -- thanks |
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| 04:57.31 | Jingoist | Hey. Just wanted to drop by and say thanks for developing these wonderful addons. |
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| 04:57.48 | MentalPower | from all of us coders, forum helpers and others thanks |
| 04:57.49 | norgs | Thanks Jingoist |
| 04:58.05 | norgs | You tried the alpha versions yet, Jingoist |
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| 04:58.18 | Jingoist | Not yet, but I am downloading it now to take a peek at it. |
| 04:58.41 | norgs | We need a bunch of people testing them out |
| 04:58.51 | norgs | Do you usually use Gatherer? |
| 04:58.55 | Jingoist | I should have submitted this sooner, but I hacked in a bit on 3.8 to list AH deposit fees in the tooltips. |
| 04:58.57 | Jingoist | Yeah, I do. |
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| 04:59.28 | norgs | I'd be really interested in people giving some testing and feedback on Gatherer especially |
| 04:59.43 | Jingoist | Alrighty. I'll give the new Gatherer version a test too. |
| 05:00.04 | norgs | Especially if you can get some people in your guild to test it out as well, and see how the gatherer sharing works for you |
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| 05:00.38 | MentalPower | Bleeter: can you also change the slash command handler in enchantrix to match the one in informant? |
| 05:01.03 | Bleeter | um, sure, i'll give it a shot :) |
| 05:02.57 | Sanpaku | norgs -- I can egt the guild to use it -- what feedback do you want? |
| 05:03.45 | norgs | Well, I just really want people to test the guild-sharing / party-sharing components to make sure they work |
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| 05:04.08 | norgs | i can't really test those by myself |
| 05:04.19 | Sanpaku | spam the feedback here? |
| 05:04.48 | Sanpaku | NM -- I'll check your site and look for email addys |
| 05:04.49 | norgs | i've done as much testing as i can to make sure it's bug free... but there's nothing like real-world use to discover hidden bugs |
| 05:05.41 | Jingoist | Not to rain on the parade, and all, but doesn't GatherBook sort of make guild/party sharing useless? Or is the data there not complete? |
| 05:05.41 | norgs | yeah, just post feedback here |
| 05:05.41 | Sanpaku | thanks all - appreacite the development -- GL |
| 05:05.41 | Jingoist | I remember downloading the full load of data at gatherer.reet.org. |
| 05:05.49 | norgs | Jingoist: I wrote gatherbook |
| 05:06.04 | Cera | gatherbook has been unavailable for over a year |
| 05:06.25 | norgs | plus the data format's completely changed |
| 05:06.30 | Jingoist | I mean, I won't deny it's a cool feature. |
| 05:06.33 | norgs | it won't work anymore |
| 05:06.37 | Jingoist | Mmm. |
| 05:06.47 | Jingoist | So is old gatherer data going to be incompatible? |
| 05:06.54 | norgs | guild / party sharing will be much better anyhow |
| 05:07.08 | AnonUser7468 | so currently do any addons work with 2.0 |
| 05:07.14 | norgs | old gatherer data will be "upgraded" eventually |
| 05:07.37 | norgs | for the time being though, just backup your current file and start with a clean slate |
| 05:07.43 | Jingoist | Makes sense. Might be easier just to write a quickie script that converts the data. |
| 05:08.39 | norgs | the thing is, we don't want to write the converter until we're 100% sure on the new format |
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| 05:09.11 | norgs | but the release version will be able to convert any previous gatherer data to the new format |
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| 05:09.33 | Jingoist | Ah, okay. |
| 05:09.38 | Jingoist | That's more what I was concerned aobut. |
| 05:09.40 | Jingoist | About, even. |
| 05:09.47 | Jingoist | If the release version does it, then there's no issue. |
| 05:10.31 | AnonUser6136 | hello, just wondering if i can download and test auctioneer |
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| 05:11.07 | Thiana | Is there a way to pause an AH scan in the current snapshot? |
| 05:11.37 | norgs | AnonUser6136: You certainly may. Check the channel topic for details. |
| 05:12.03 | AnonUser6136 | oh, ic it now, sorry |
| 05:12.06 | Jingoist | Ooh, bean counter. Is that getting some upgrade love, too? |
| 05:12.48 | MentalPower | all in due time |
| 05:13.03 | Jingoist | Well, of course :) |
| 05:13.19 | Thiana | So that would be a no? Or my question isnt sufficiently clear? |
| 05:13.28 | norgs | BTW: Do we have any other lua coders in here (other than current devs) |
| 05:13.38 | Thiana | norgs: Myself. |
| 05:13.44 | norgs | Thiana: Hi :) |
| 05:13.50 | norgs | Yes there is. |
| 05:13.52 | Thiana | norgs: Hi :) |
| 05:13.57 | Jingoist | Unfortunately, I know very little about lua. |
| 05:14.05 | norgs | Why do you want to pause it? |
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| 05:15.11 | norgs | MentalPower: Want me to put BottomScanner into svn now? |
| 05:15.16 | Thiana | norgs: I have a personal addon that hooks the Auctioneer scan for items on my watch lists. Since they blocked PlaceAuctionBid to require key input, I want to pause the scan to place the bid manually. |
| 05:15.22 | MentalPower | norgs: sure |
| 05:15.48 | norgs | Thiana: Sure... that's kind of what BottomScanner is going to do |
| 05:15.52 | norgs | it's pretty easy |
| 05:16.03 | Electric_Skeptic | is Auctioneer 4.0 the version needed for it to work with the latest patch (today's) of WoW? |
| 05:16.25 | Thiana | norgs: What is BottomScanner? And is it available somewhere so I can see how it's pausing the scan? |
| 05:16.32 | Jingoist | Dumbass question: Where does Auctioneer store its data? |
| 05:17.07 | Jingoist | WTF/Account/accountname/SavedVariables? |
| 05:17.20 | Thiana | Jingoist, yes |
| 05:17.24 | Electric_Skeptic | is Auctioneer 4.0 the version needed for it to work with the latest patch (today's) of WoW? |
| 05:17.24 | Jingoist | Alright. |
| 05:17.27 | MentalPower | SavedVariables\Auctioneer.lua yes |
| 05:17.38 | Bleeter | to get the barker buttons for enchantrix to fit, i've had to reduce the text. it's now just 'options', and 'barker' |
| 05:17.44 | MentalPower | Electric_Skeptic: yes, its a developer version with bugs tho |
| 05:17.57 | Bleeter | as a quick and dirty hack. any dev object to the simpler wording? |
| 05:18.03 | norgs | Thiana: Just hook into: |
| 05:18.10 | Electric_Skeptic | when will a 'real' version of Auctioneer be out which works with the latest WoW patch? |
| 05:18.18 | MentalPower | Bleeter: are those constants in the EnxStrings.lua file or are they hardcoded |
| 05:18.27 | MentalPower | Electric_Skeptic: look at the channel topic |
| 05:18.40 | norgs | CanSendAuctionQuery() |
| 05:18.40 | Bleeter | hardcoded in the XML, it would seem |
| 05:19.21 | Bleeter | can i guess your next request? ;) |
| 05:19.22 | MentalPower | :) |
| 05:19.22 | norgs | as long as that returns false, everything pauses |
| 05:19.22 | Electric_Skeptic | MentalPower: i did. And you said that version is "a developer version with bugs". I asked about a 'real' version - a non-developer with lots of butgs version. |
| 05:19.22 | Bleeter | 'coz all of enchantrix needs localising love |
| 05:19.23 | Bleeter | and I'd rather leave that until after we get this working ;) |
| 05:19.28 | MentalPower | well, in reality barker needs localizing, so... right |
| 05:19.29 | norgs | Electric_Skeptic: Your answer is in the channel topic |
| 05:19.39 | Thiana | norgs: Perfect :) Thank you :) |
| 05:19.48 | Electric_Skeptic | norgs: is Auctioneer 4.0 "a developer version with bugs"? |
| 05:19.54 | norgs | no |
| 05:20.21 | Electric_Skeptic | norgs: okay, thank you. That answers my questions. MentalPower said it was, so I was asking when a 'real' version would be out. |
| 05:20.30 | Bleeter | mp: k, I'll get to work on that command handler, then I'll do a ci and see what you guys think |
| 05:20.31 | norgs | 4.0 is the release version of Auctioneer which will be compatible with wow-2.0 and contain as few bugs as is humanly possible\ |
| 05:20.49 | AnonUser6136 | sorry, i cant find 4.0, only 3.9.0.1111 |
| 05:21.22 | Electric_Skeptic | norgs: and previous versions of Auctioneer won't even be able to be loaded by WoW, is that correct? They just show as 'incompatible' in the Add-Ons GUI? |
| 05:21.37 | norgs | AnonUser6136: 3.9 is the development version of what will become 4.0 upon release (on Dec 19th) |
| 05:22.01 | Electric_Skeptic | can we download 3.9 anywhere? |
| 05:22.05 | norgs | Electric_Skeptic: Correct. It is not possible to get them to load without a large amount of recoding. |
| 05:22.16 | AnonUser6136 | ok, so then i will post any bugs i find here? |
| 05:22.22 | norgs | Electric_Skeptic: Yes, see the topic for download locations |
| 05:22.33 | norgs | AnonUser6136: Correct |
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| 05:23.11 | Electric_Skeptic | norgs: thank you VERY much! |
| 05:23.32 | AnonUser6136 | ok, thanks for your help, and keep up the good work, if i knew anything about coding, i would be glad to help, but idont |
| 05:23.56 | norgs | Testing and reporting bugs is just as important AnonUser6136 |
| 05:23.59 | Jingoist | So, for testing the new Auctioneer and Gatherer. Should I (backup and then) erase all my current data? |
| 05:24.29 | bev | i vote backup, but dont erase |
| 05:24.30 | norgs | Jingoist: Yes, that is the recommended procedure |
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| 05:25.05 | norgs | You may try to use the old files, but it may cause more problems. |
| 05:25.14 | Jingoist | Hell, I may just keep the clean slate. I've been playing a toon on a new server, and the economy on those changes so much in so little time. |
| 05:25.17 | norgs | Still they need to be fixed anyhow, I guess :) |
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| 05:25.30 | Electric_Skeptic | will 4.0 use the old versions of the *lua files, or will we have to delete them all and start over? |
| 05:25.46 | Sanpaku | Old news? Beancounter and Enchantrix come up as INcompatible -- |
| 05:25.50 | bev | w0o new upload in trunk!! |
| 05:26.09 | bev | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:26.10 | norgs | the new versions will (eventually) upgrade the old data |
| 05:26.22 | Whitor | Electric_Skeptic, why don't you just read the freaking site? |
| 05:26.22 | Electric_Skeptic | thanks a lot, norgs |
| 05:26.23 | Bleeter | Sanpaku: old news |
| 05:26.31 | norgs | the release versions will have upgrade code in them |
| 05:26.35 | Jingoist | I figured the upgrade the old data bits were not high priority, though. :) |
| 05:26.39 | Sanpaku | this is from a clean Addons and frmo loadup -- and -- Bleeter -- gotcha |
| 05:27.10 | bev | holy crap tons of errors after updating with that latest file |
| 05:27.11 | norgs | The trouble is the exact data formats are still in a little bit of flux |
| 05:27.39 | MentalPower | bev: huh? |
| 05:27.44 | bev | i took a screenshot |
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| 05:28.46 | MentalPower | norgs: I found out recently that your use of %1, %2 etc in the tr() and _tr() functions are unnecessary |
| 05:28.59 | norgs | MentalPower: yeah, i know - it sux |
| 05:29.01 | bev | i updated with http://auctioneeraddon.com/scm/browser/trunk/auctioneer/AucCommand.lua and got this: |
| 05:29.09 | bev | http://i11.tinypic.com/4hhrktz.jpg |
| 05:29.11 | MentalPower | WoW's lua uses the 4.0 version of the string.format() function |
| 05:29.20 | norgs | i go to all that trouble, and now it's supported by string.format |
| 05:29.28 | MentalPower | hehe |
| 05:29.28 | AnonUser2895 | saw you are looking for testers for mod - i'm game, but where do i get beta |
| 05:29.32 | Imrcly | my mod has an illegal targeting function |
| 05:29.35 | Imrcly | crap |
| 05:29.42 | MentalPower | AnonUser2895: channel topic |
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| 05:29.48 | Bleeter | Imrcly: dang :( |
| 05:29.52 | AnonUser8944 | hello everyone! |
| 05:30.07 | bev | my chat is being spammed with error messages |
| 05:30.13 | Bluekul | Hello! |
| 05:30.36 | MentalPower | bev: thats wierd, can you try using a real SVN client? |
| 05:30.41 | AnonUser8523 | saw you are looking for testers for mod - i'm game, but where do i get beta I second that |
| 05:30.43 | Brodin | Bev, did you start with a clean slate or kept the old data? |
| 05:30.43 | MentalPower | Bluekul: hey |
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| 05:30.49 | Bluekul | :) |
| 05:31.02 | norgs | AnonUser8523: Hi :) |
| 05:31.04 | bev | old data |
| 05:31.29 | norgs | AnonUser8523: Check out the channel topic for details on testing the alpha version |
| 05:31.34 | MentalPower | NOTE TO THE ANONS: Can you change your nicks to something else (lower right of the chat applet) |
| 05:31.48 | norgs | MentalPower: hehe :) |
| 05:31.49 | bev | and i dont understand "real SVN client" |
| 05:31.57 | MentalPower | bev: win or mac? |
| 05:32.01 | bev | win |
| 05:32.05 | MentalPower | ~tortoisesvn |
| 05:32.08 | purl | TortoiseSVN is a Windows SVN client that allows access to a Subversion repository. (see http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/) |
| 05:32.11 | Jingoist | Ahh, it is nice to have Informant back. :P |
| 05:32.23 | Sanpaku | New version of Gatherer from your website in the title comes up INCOMPATIBLE |
| 05:32.27 | Sanpaku | Old news again? |
| 05:32.35 | MentalPower | Sanpaku: it shoudn't |
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| 05:32.39 | norgs | What's the version number Sanpaku |
| 05:32.40 | Jingoist | Though I'll have to hack in that bit that gave me a line for AH deposit. |
| 05:32.48 | Sanpaku | two guild members 0-- same prob -- I'll lool |
| 05:33.04 | MentalPower | Jingoist: that's in the pipe (have it working locally) |
| 05:33.06 | Sanpaku | gatherer-2.2.3.1.zip |
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| 05:33.16 | Bluekul | umm can i be a tester for thew new version of auctioneer p;ease? |
| 05:33.30 | MentalPower | Bluekul: channel topic |
| 05:33.33 | norgs | Try Gatherer 2.99.0.0345 |
| 05:33.37 | Jingoist | Ah, good. Perhaps you'll do it the Right Way(tm), rather than my ugly way. |
| 05:33.53 | Sanpaku | where would I find that? (cringe) -- not on gatherer-2.2.3.1.zip |
| 05:34.01 | norgs | click the link at the bottom of the page to get to the developer downloads page |
| 05:34.07 | Sanpaku | thanks |
| 05:34.09 | Bluekul | mental power |
| 05:34.18 | norgs | (the Gatherer directory link) |
| 05:35.03 | Dixey | when testing will it use my old data? or will it start with clean database? |
| 05:35.06 | bev | ok MentalPower, i have it installed |
| 05:35.28 | Bleeter | i think all the ally enchanters on Thorium Brotherhood have just become my friend! |
| 05:35.35 | bev | i have no idea what to do with it now |
| 05:35.42 | Bleeter | i tested it out in trade, with a 'testing a fix for enchantrix, please ignore' and got about 30 tells |
| 05:35.43 | Brodin | Dixey: Best to start with a clean slate. Getting errors with old data |
| 05:35.58 | MentalPower | bev: now, delete your auctioneer addons from your iterface\addons directory, and right click the directory and select "SVN Checkout" |
| 05:36.30 | MentalPower | bev: the URL you need to input is http://norganna.org/svn/auctioneer/trunk/ |
| 05:36.59 | Bluekul | at the download page, that auctioneer isnt it the same as the latest release of it? |
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| 05:37.11 | Jingoist | Hm. /auctioneer pct-underlow 2 is throwing "Unknown command or keyword: pct" |
| 05:37.26 | Bluekul | so mental power |
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| 05:37.31 | Bleeter | it's days like this that remind me why I truly fear the OSS movement ;) |
| 05:37.34 | Bluekul | which one do u download |
| 05:37.47 | Mutka | i posted auctions just fine scanned just fine |
| 05:37.51 | MentalPower | Bluekul: 3.8 is the current "release", but you're looking for the alpha downloads wich are below under "AuctioneerComplete" |
| 05:38.04 | break19 | ok, so i grabbed the alphas... enchantrix is showing as incompatible? |
| 05:38.05 | MentalPower | ~wtf oss |
| 05:38.11 | Mutka | to bad when i go to feed my pet it turns of stubby and nothing works |
| 05:38.16 | Bleeter | open source software |
| 05:38.20 | break19 | as is beancounter? |
| 05:38.32 | break19 | also, open sound system |
| 05:38.36 | MentalPower | break19: known issue, we haven't gotten to those addons yet |
| 05:38.50 | MentalPower | break19: Bleeter is currently working on enchantrix |
| 05:39.03 | break19 | mp, kk. just wantin to make sure I wasnt missin somethin :) |
| 05:39.16 | bev | MentalPower: ok its done! |
| 05:39.30 | MentalPower | you should now be good to go |
| 05:39.36 | bev | no more errors! |
| 05:39.36 | bev | ty |
| 05:39.37 | MentalPower | tru /console reloadui |
| 05:39.41 | MentalPower | woot! |
| 05:39.55 | bev | <333333 |
| 05:39.56 | break19 | MentalPower: so, without beancounter, auctioneer still works ok? |
| 05:40.11 | MentalPower | bev: from now on all you need to do is right click your addons folder and select "SVN Update" |
| 05:40.11 | bev | so, now, i just right click and svn it to update my files from here on out? |
| 05:40.15 | bev | sweet |
| 05:40.16 | MentalPower | break19: yup |
| 05:40.20 | Jingoist | I tried to search for an item in the AH, and got a red error; auctioneer\database\AucSnapshotDB.lua:1069 -- attempt to compare nil with string |
| 05:40.23 | break19 | alrite, good to hear. |
| 05:40.31 | MentalPower | Jingoist: working on it |
| 05:40.54 | break19 | now to just find replacement addons for lost functionality of some other addon-groups |
| 05:41.08 | bev | testing auctioneer is way more fun than testing Firefox |
| 05:41.13 | Jingoist | Just throwin' 'em out there as I find 'em |
| 05:41.22 | Jingoist | Yell at me if I get annoying. :) |
| 05:41.26 | break19 | bah, firefox |
| 05:41.30 | break19 | camino is better :) |
| 05:41.33 | bev | i helped a dev there fix a printer bug and i fucking hated it..i had to reinstall 2 weeks worth of nightly builds |
| 05:41.44 | bev | never reporting bugs there again :< |
| 05:41.49 | norgs | break19: as if not using webkit |
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| 05:42.05 | Bluekul | mental power how do i pm you? |
| 05:42.14 | AnonUser6136 | ok, im back, got an error |
| 05:42.54 | norgs | Bluekul: Post bugs here, or if there's too much data, use http://norganna.pastey.net/ and paste the link here |
| 05:43.05 | break19 | norgs - oh i know camino is essentially firefox.. but camino is prettier and looks more like a mac browser is supposed to.. and just simply feels nicer :) |
| 05:43.21 | norgs | break19: you should be using webkit |
| 05:43.41 | norgs | http://webkit.org/ |
| 05:43.47 | Bluekul | ok |
| 05:43.50 | Bleeter | mp: what, psecifically, did you need changed in ench command handle? it looks to me it'd be best suited to a re-write at the time it gets localised (ie, no point changing it twice). |
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| 05:44.05 | Bleeter | mp: if it's something minor that needs changing, then that I can live with and do ;) |
| 05:44.19 | norgs | break19: Drosera is awesome and it's element inspection is beautiful |
| 05:44.28 | Bluekul | with the alpha version, i know it will have bugs, but im not very knowlagable about programs, will it still be ok for me to use? |
| 05:44.29 | MentalPower | Bleeter: just the regex and args at the top 10 lines or so |
| 05:44.48 | Bleeter | MP; ah, sweet. easy. |
| 05:44.59 | MentalPower | especially the regex |
| 05:45.11 | AnonUser6136 | was posting an auction for battlecaller guantlet, addons\auctioneer\userinterface\auction framepost.lua:401: attempt to index global 'auction' (a nil value) |
| 05:45.30 | Jingoist | Got same as AnonUSer6136 |
| 05:45.37 | Jingoist | (Who sneakily beat me to posting it) |
| 05:45.44 | AnonUser6136 | lol |
| 05:46.02 | Bluekul | How do i correctly installe the Alpha version and correctly unistall the other version, please help! |
| 05:46.06 | Dixey | I keep getting a pop up when bidding/buying out asking me if I am sure I want to do that. don't remember that being there before |
| 05:46.17 | AnonUser6136 | and itype so fast with my 2 fingers, lol |
| 05:46.38 | MentalPower | AnonUser6136: known bug, fixed already |
| 05:46.50 | Bluekul | Could some one tell me the steps? |
| 05:46.52 | Jingoist | Well, I wasn't running WoW in windowed mode, so I had to switch back and forth. |
| 05:46.53 | AnonUser6136 | k |
| 05:47.09 | AnonUser6136 | i wrot it down |
| 05:47.36 | norgs | Can I get a volunteer to write a wiki page about how to get, install and test the alpha versions? |
| 05:47.49 | MentalPower | Bluekul: just overwrite it, as per http://norganna.org/wiki/Auctioneer/Installing |
| 05:48.03 | norgs | It's gonna make the rest of today a lot easier on us devs :) |
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| 05:48.22 | AnonUser6136 | lol, oh im sure it will |
| 05:48.48 | Bluekul | lol yes norgs |
| 05:48.48 | Jingoist | Attempting to change the Profit column on the search auctions bit from Profit to "Buyout Per" results in UserInterface\ListTemplate.lua:308: attempt to index local 'self' (a nil value) |
| 05:48.54 | Bluekul | that would help |
| 05:49.06 | norgs | AnonUser6136: Type: /nick <newnickhere> |
| 05:49.18 | Jingoist | (Same error for all of the list box items, FWIW) |
| 05:49.18 | break19 | is gatherer not working properly at all? |
| 05:49.22 | Bluekul | which one do i download, 3.8 or 3.9? |
| 05:49.48 | norgs | odis: That's better :) |
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| 05:50.08 | odis | thanks, i know who i am now, lol |
| 05:50.30 | Bluekul | Do i download 3.9? |
| 05:50.47 | Jingoist | Saving and deleting search auction settings appears to work fine. |
| 05:50.53 | Jingoist | Doubt that changed much, though :) |
| 05:50.56 | Dixey | tried searching for coarse stone and got message SnapshotDB.lua:1609: attempt to compare number with string - also seems to be continueing to try to search even though i closed out auction window |
| 05:51.01 | MentalPower | norgs: lol! |
| 05:51.14 | MentalPower | Bluekul: 3.9 |
| 05:51.27 | Sanpaku | /gather options command fails -- still old news? |
| 05:51.27 | Bluekul | Thankyou Mental power |
| 05:51.47 | break19 | GatherEvent.lua: 489: attempt to index global "GatherDrops' (a nil value) |
| 05:52.04 | Bluekul | Mental power are you a dev? |
| 05:52.06 | MentalPower | Sanpaku: I don't think we've gotten that far yet, :) |
| 05:52.15 | MentalPower | Bluekul: you could say that :) |
| 05:52.19 | Sanpaku | want info on it now? |
| 05:52.22 | Bluekul | :) |
| 05:52.33 | Bluekul | how do i pm ppl! |
| 05:52.37 | Bluekul | lol |
| 05:52.49 | MentalPower | Sanpaku: please |
| 05:52.57 | MentalPower | Bluekul: what do you need to PM? |
| 05:53.11 | MentalPower | You need to register first |
| 05:53.14 | Bluekul | like you or anyone else |
| 05:53.33 | MentalPower | --/msg nickserv register <password> |
| 05:53.44 | MentalPower | then /msg Person MessageHere |
| 05:54.02 | break19 | and just got [string "Gatherer_WorldMapDisplay: OnClick"]:9: attempt to call global "GatherMain_Draw" (a nil value) |
| 05:54.02 | MentalPower | though I would appreciate it if you didn't PM unless it was extremely urgent |
| 05:54.32 | Sanpaku | Interface\Addons\Gatherer\GatherCOmmand Lua 87 Attempt to index field "DialogFrame" a nill value |
| 05:54.34 | Sanpaku | ni; |
| 05:54.38 | Sanpaku | n i l |
| 05:54.39 | Sanpaku | there |
| 05:55.02 | Bluekul | how do i register? |
| 05:55.06 | Bleeter | what was the chan name to create to see the debug foo? |
| 05:55.06 | Jingoist | Typing is hard :( |
| 05:55.20 | Sanpaku | /say |
| 05:55.33 | Sanpaku | jsut the chat channel -- is tha what you meant? |
| 05:55.56 | Bleeter | no, debug foo from the mods |
| 05:56.09 | Bleeter | I might be getting confused with another set of mods, tho |
| 05:56.27 | Sanpaku | Im sorry -- gave you the only message I saw -- and that was.... |
| 05:56.32 | Sanpaku | Interface\Addons\Gatherer\GatherCOmmand Lua 87 Attempt to index field "DialogFrame" a nil value |
| 05:56.35 | Bleeter | mp, norgs: is there a chan name for debugging, or am I confused with another package from elsewhere? |
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| 05:56.52 | Sanpaku | Correction -- Lua 67 |
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| 05:56.58 | MentalPower | break19: thanks, I'll forward that to norgs for when he returns |
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| 05:57.17 | Philip_ | so no auctioneer till the 19th? |
| 05:57.19 | MentalPower | Bleeter: ETTDebug |
| 05:57.24 | Bleeter | mp: thx amte :) |
| 05:57.28 | Bleeter | er.. mate |
| 05:57.40 | MentalPower | Bleeter: and its a chat window name, not a channel :) |
| 05:57.50 | mebanebuzz | how about if I offer to beta or alpha? I need my time saver :) |
| 05:57.54 | break19 | MentalPower: no prob - guess I'll wallow in self-pity and languish my mining and herbalism until the 19th :p |
| 05:57.56 | gonron | so I cannot get Enchantrix to load on the alpha, is this knowm? |
| 05:58.03 | Jingoist | Yes |
| 05:58.16 | break19 | i better go to bed\ |
| 05:58.19 | break19 | night guys |
| 05:58.28 | MentalPower | night break19 |
| 05:58.29 | Philip_ | will all the old list convert? |
| 05:58.38 | MentalPower | eventually, yes |
| 05:58.40 | Sanpaku | /gather report fails too |
| 05:59.34 | MentalPower | Sanpaku: the UI hasn't been converted, for now just ignore it, same issues as break19's |
| 05:59.46 | MentalPower | the UI is not re-coded for the new API's |
| 06:00.44 | Bluekul | when i download this alpha will it have all my old prices? |
| 06:00.47 | Imrcly | i think i can still use targeting functions if i put them in different .lua files and call them |
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| 06:01.12 | Jingoist | Oops |
| 06:01.17 | Sanpaku | Blue -- on Terenas at least, the old prices look like they're going to be useless for a while -- weird pricing in AH |
| 06:01.26 | MentalPower | Imrcly: no, you need to use the secure templates for targetting |
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| 06:01.53 | Imrcly | ok thanks i will see if i can find them |
| 06:02.14 | Jingoist | Now I need to go find something to mine. :P |
| 06:02.54 | Imrcly | be cool if there was a mod that helped you find mineral nodes |
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| 06:05.03 | shownin | Is there a version of auctioneer and gatherer that I can load (even an alpha or beta) that will work with the new patch? If so which one is it? |
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| 06:05.26 | Zxcvb | how well does the current gatherer for 2.0 work? |
| 06:05.39 | MentalPower | shownin: channel topic |
| 06:05.41 | Imrcly | i wish there was some sort of topic that said something about that when people logged in |
| 06:05.43 | ScratchMonkey | shownin: did you read the notice on the website? |
| 06:05.55 | Jingoist | Hm. Drops: Silverleaf (300%) |
| 06:06.07 | MentalPower | anyone german around? |
| 06:06.10 | shownin | I saw the notice and wanted to help test |
| 06:06.11 | Jingoist | It got 3 silverleaf from one herbalism node |
| 06:06.23 | MentalPower | (or that speaks german) |
| 06:06.30 | Zxcvb | gatherer-2.99.0.0345 specifically |
| 06:06.37 | shownin | Sorry this is my first time to use mIRC |
| 06:07.16 | Jingoist | The new Gatherer features are pretty cool, BTW. |
| 06:08.00 | Bleeter | mp: I must be being very stupid. can't get this handler 'fix' happening yet. Clearly, when I said 'easy', I was out of my mind ;) |
| 06:08.08 | norgs | Jingoist: What do you like specifically? |
| 06:08.18 | Zxcvb | Jingoist: how well does it work? |
| 06:08.42 | Jingoist | Aside from being broken, the bit that gives you percentages of things found at each node is keen. |
| 06:08.56 | norgs | Why's that broken? |
| 06:08.57 | MentalPower | norgs: is the gatherer UI supposed to be usable ATM? |
| 06:09.03 | norgs | 300% is right |
| 06:09.07 | Jingoist | Oh, it is? |
| 06:09.23 | norgs | well, you got 3 from 1 harvest, right? |
| 06:09.26 | Jingoist | Correct. |
| 06:09.32 | Jingoist | I figured that would still be 100%, though. |
| 06:09.33 | norgs | so that's 300% |
| 06:09.36 | MentalPower | Bleeter: whats wrong? |
| 06:09.54 | Jingoist | And /gather options doesn't work, but it sounds like you guys knew that already. |
| 06:10.09 | norgs | Jingoist: that's right |
| 06:10.12 | norgs | no options yet |
| 06:10.26 | MentalPower | quick question, what percentage of fullness would you consider critical? |
| 06:10.47 | MentalPower | 75%, 80% 90% |
| 06:10.50 | MentalPower | ? |
| 06:10.50 | norgs | MentalPower: nope |
| 06:11.01 | MentalPower | norgs: thats what I thought |
| 06:11.06 | norgs | it's not meant to be usable (the gatherer ui) |
| 06:11.11 | MentalPower | *nod* |
| 06:11.17 | Imrcly | for z = 1, 16, 1 do |
| 06:11.17 | Imrcly | TargetNearestEnemy() |
| 06:11.21 | Imrcly | end; |
| 06:11.23 | Jingoist | Hm, so if I get only one silverleaf from a node, is it supposed to be 233.33%? |
| 06:11.34 | norgs | at the moment, gatherer is back to basics |
| 06:11.36 | Imrcly | that appears to be invalid usage |
| 06:11.40 | norgs | you gather, it displays |
| 06:11.46 | Bleeter | mp: I got your request to make it the same (or similar), and fix up the regex. I'm suffering from general brain seizure on the regex |
| 06:12.02 | Bleeter | and 'command:match' vs 'command:find' |
| 06:12.06 | MentalPower | Bleeter: just copy/paste from the InfCommand.lua file |
| 06:12.07 | norgs | Jingoist: that's the total for all silverleaf nodes |
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| 06:12.19 | Bleeter | and, informant only takes 1 param, enchantrix can take 2 (for precentless) |
| 06:12.39 | Zxcvb | trunk is the latest, right? |
| 06:12.41 | Jingoist | So, basically, that number means not at all what I thought it was. |
| 06:12.54 | norgs | what did you think it was? |
| 06:13.01 | MentalPower | initial, final, capture1, capture2 = command:find(), vs. capture1, capture2 = command:match() |
| 06:13.04 | Jingoist | I would expect it to be the percentage of things found at that particular node. |
| 06:13.11 | MentalPower | basically :match strips out the first two vars |
| 06:13.15 | norgs | that number is no, that would take too much storage |
| 06:13.16 | Jingoist | (Copper ore, coarse stone, etc.) |
| 06:13.24 | norgs | i meant: no, that would take too much storage |
| 06:13.33 | Bluekul | When do use update the alpha version? |
| 06:13.35 | Zxcvb | is trunk the latest version? |
| 06:13.47 | MentalPower | norgs: percentage full thats critical, any ideas? |
| 06:13.52 | MentalPower | Zxcvb: yes |
| 06:14.00 | norgs | MentalPower: i dunno 85%? |
| 06:14.27 | Jingoist | Is there a bit to allow one to put gather nodes on the 'M' map? |
| 06:14.33 | Jingoist | (Read: not the minimap) |
| 06:14.43 | norgs | Jingoist: not completed yet |
| 06:14.45 | Jingoist | OK |
| 06:14.55 | MentalPower | 85% critical and 75% warning? |
| 06:15.06 | Bluekul | When does the alpha version get updated? |
| 06:15.13 | odis | i tryed searching for thorium bar in the browse tab, it just kept searching and searching, never found it, went to make something for someone at great forge, came back and when auctioneer loaded it said it was still searching |
| 06:15.28 | Bleeter | odis: known bug |
| 06:15.31 | MentalPower | Bluekul: regularly (manually) |
| 06:15.46 | Jingoist | So the percentage is the average number of a given resource you'll find at any of its nodes? |
| 06:16.02 | Zxcvb | is there a mod that allows older mods to work in 2.0 yet? |
| 06:16.15 | MentalPower | Zxcvb: no, and there won't be one |
| 06:16.23 | Bluekul | ok mental, so you gather the known bugs and fix them, and when you update it, i have to download it again? is that correct? |
| 06:16.27 | odis | im jus not coming up with anything thats not nown, lol, by the way, is there a tab missing from the bottom? |
| 06:16.32 | MentalPower | Bluekul: correct |
| 06:16.36 | Jingoist | If that is the case, then I would suggest not noting it as a percentage. |
| 06:16.44 | Bluekul | :) |
| 06:16.57 | norgs | so, you'd just like to see that as a number like 3.0? |
| 06:17.04 | Jingoist | Yeah, I think that makes a lot more sense |
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| 06:17.10 | norgs | ok. |
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| 06:17.12 | Jingoist | God DAMN it! |
| 06:17.18 | Jingoist | I keep pressing the escape button. |
| 06:17.19 | Bluekul | Roughly when will the new update begin, and will apha contain all my old price info? |
| 06:17.47 | norgs | basically that's the number of items you should expect to get per-node anyhow, so that probably will make more sense |
| 06:18.23 | Jingoist | Yeah, if it were a straight decimal number, rather than a percentage, it would make a lot more sense at first glance. |
| 06:18.37 | Jingoist | The decimals might throw a few less-smart people, but most would figure it out. |
| 06:18.40 | MentalPower | Bluekul: dunno, perhaps later tonight, and yes you'll keep your data |
| 06:19.09 | Bleeter | mp: gunna check in, then get back to the handler ;) |
| 06:19.20 | MentalPower | ok |
| 06:19.23 | norgs | should i put an x in front, like "x 2.25" |
| 06:19.25 | Bluekul | k thankyou mentalpower you have been a big help :) catcha later mate! |
| 06:19.28 | Jingoist | Hmm. |
| 06:19.31 | MentalPower | later Bluekul |
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| 06:19.58 | Jingoist | Yeah, probably. |
| 06:20.00 | MentalPower | ok 70% is warning and 85% is critical for the auctioneer savedvariables fullness meter |
| 06:20.19 | Jingoist | It'll look a bit goofy with the number right justified like it is, but I think it's right to have it right-justified. |
| 06:20.25 | Jingoist | Easier to read the numbers when they're lined up. |
| 06:20.30 | bev | has anyone else reported errors when searching the AH? |
| 06:20.46 | Bluekul | Oh one more thing, are there any bugs so far that will effect me using auctioneer for basic use? |
| 06:20.47 | ScratchMonkey | kinda clever how you check for a development version in the lua, looking for the "<".. to see the unexpanded macro |
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| 06:21.36 | MentalPower | bev: what kind of errors? |
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| 06:21.54 | bev | random errors when searching for items |
| 06:21.55 | MentalPower | ScratchMonkey: hehe, norgs' idea |
| 06:22.01 | bev | i dont remember them now and im gone |
| 06:22.08 | MentalPower | bev: I think they're all related, one sec |
| 06:22.41 | tcgiant | Hmm, thinking about it, I'd love a mod that would automatically /laugh at the first person to bid/greed a shadowstrike |
| 06:22.48 | bev | i got summoned to strat so i cant do anything now |
| 06:24.09 | Jingoist | Now I need to go do this on a character with mining. |
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| 06:24.23 | Jingoist | I'll use the one with a mount. :) That'll make it easier. |
| 06:24.37 | Bleeter | MP: checked in the UI changes, feel free to take a peek ;) |
| 06:24.49 | bev | omg changes reload ui! |
| 06:24.53 | Bleeter | back to more coffee and the handler |
| 06:24.55 | MentalPower | lol |
| 06:25.30 | ScratchMonkey | had you considered using a svn keyword to stick the current rev in the dev version printout? (it lags the real rev since your wc can be changed or you could have a mixed-rev wc) |
| 06:26.23 | MentalPower | we use it in enchantrix |
| 06:26.32 | Bluekul | BeanCounter, Enchantrix & Itemizer are all not compatable? |
| 06:26.41 | MentalPower | I haven't been bothered to change auctioneer to use it |
| 06:26.42 | Bluekul | Why does WoW say that? |
| 06:26.44 | norgs | We really don't care all that much ScratchMonkey :p |
| 06:27.03 | MentalPower | Bluekul: itemizer and beancounter are not compatible yet, correct |
| 06:27.16 | norgs | just so long as it doesn't say <%version%> |
| 06:27.20 | Imrcly | its got to do with the ui version code honestly |
| 06:27.29 | ScratchMonkey | yeah, was just looking at it in the svn book and realize it's per-file, so it's not as useful as it could be if it were per-directory |
| 06:27.30 | Bluekul | Ok what about enchantrix, it says it isnt compatable? |
| 06:27.55 | Bleeter | a first cut of an attempt at a compatible version of enchantrix just got sent to the devs for checking |
| 06:28.08 | Bluekul | :) ok |
| 06:28.20 | MentalPower | Bleeter: looks good to me, but I haven't tested it |
| 06:28.22 | Bleeter | but it's still in a bit of flux ;) |
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| 06:28.38 | MentalPower | I'll update the zip so the masses can test it :) |
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| 06:29.07 | Bleeter | oh my, look at the time... i'm late, must logoff ;) |
| 06:29.12 | Bleeter | j/k |
| 06:29.37 | Aethelwulf | enhanced tooltip is really buggy in both bc and bts >.< |
| 06:29.39 | norgs | Jingoist: Updated gatherer 2.99.0.0346 |
| 06:30.28 | MentalPower | Auctioneer 3.9.0.1117 available for DL |
| 06:30.38 | notMaddox | where's that |
| 06:30.45 | MentalPower | Aethelwulf: you sure, no bugs here |
| 06:30.46 | Jingoist | I assume with each patch level version I need to erase my data? |
| 06:30.54 | bev | MentalPower: pfft old news |
| 06:30.57 | MentalPower | Jingoist: nop |
| 06:31.00 | norgs | Jingoist: nope |
| 06:31.02 | MentalPower | bev: haha! |
| 06:31.07 | Jingoist | Ah, keen. |
| 06:31.10 | Aethelwulf | well that was with 3.9.0.1111 |
| 06:31.15 | MentalPower | Moser: channel topic |
| 06:31.30 | Moser | yea I see that, but the files are still auctioneer-3.8.0.7z |
| 06:31.31 | MentalPower | Aethelwulf: I haven't changed EnhTT, whats the bug? |
| 06:31.47 | MentalPower | Moser: scroll down and/or read the red letters :) |
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| 06:32.08 | Moser | oh gotcha :) |
| 06:32.13 | Thyme41 | I've got a question. |
| 06:32.16 | Aethelwulf | not sure, it didn't show up in improved error frame |
| 06:32.22 | MentalPower | Thyme41: shoot |
| 06:32.30 | MentalPower | Aethelwulf: orange text in the chatframe? |
| 06:32.35 | Aethelwulf | yes |
| 06:32.42 | Bleeter | mp: woot, I think I just nailed the regex ;) |
| 06:32.50 | TseTse | anybody know the script for the petbarframe offhand? =) |
| 06:32.59 | MentalPower | Aethelwulf: can you post a screenshot somewhere? |
| 06:33.16 | Thyme41 | I'd really like to be able to use Auctioneer again now that 2.0 is in effect. I have little to no scripting knowledge, is it safe for me to download the alpha if I only use the basic auctioneer scanning and auctioning tools? |
| 06:33.37 | Jingoist | Hmmmm. |
| 06:33.43 | Aethelwulf | sure... I will have to log in to wow to get the screen but for some reason cause of my router I can't dcc send... |
| 06:34.35 | Jingoist | Rough Stone x 0.71, Copper Ore x0.57 |
| 06:34.41 | MentalPower | Aethelwulf: http://ctscreens.net/ |
| 06:34.41 | ScratchMonkey | Thyme41: depends on what you mean by "safe" |
| 06:35.03 | Thyme41 | Well, will it crash my UI if I do the wrong thing? |
| 06:35.04 | ScratchMonkey | backup your data, and never rely on Auctioneer as gospel |
| 06:35.43 | ScratchMonkey | I don't think crashing the UI is supposed to be possible (although I've had WoW crash from issues in Cosmos some time ago) |
| 06:36.14 | Thyme41 | Mmkay, so as long as I have my SV files backed up I shouldn't cause any permanent damage? |
| 06:36.15 | ScratchMonkey | if you do crash your UI, tell us what you did at the time so we can track it back to Thing To Avoid When Coding |
| 06:36.46 | ScratchMonkey | I just back up the whole WTF directory, something like "zip -r wow-backup wtf" |
| 06:37.01 | Aethelwulf | you want .jpg or is .tga fine? |
| 06:37.11 | ScratchMonkey | I actually do that just before each patch, and date-stamp the zip file name, so today I have wow-backup-20061205.zip |
| 06:37.51 | TseTse | whre can i get info on /script PetBarFrame: and how to use it? |
| 06:37.52 | Bluekul | What are defunct auctions? |
| 06:38.00 | MentalPower | Aethelwulf: whatever ctscreens takes is fine |
| 06:38.24 | MentalPower | (they take pretty much anything) |
| 06:38.47 | Thyme41 | That's probably a good idea, I'll make that a habit. Do you guys know of any other addons that have been updated for the 2.0 change? |
| 06:39.13 | Aethelwulf | uploading now |
| 06:39.29 | Bluekul | Ok, above items it has link: and a random number, is that supposed to do that? |
| 06:39.52 | MentalPower | Bluekul: thats part of the itemLink |
| 06:40.10 | Bluekul | ok, how does it work? |
| 06:40.45 | Aethelwulf | http://ctscreens.net/983 |
| 06:40.48 | ScratchMonkey | nice tip about ctscreens, looks like they convert stuff to jpeg to be web-friendly |
| 06:40.52 | MentalPower | its just for display/education/expert users, you can disable it via "/inf show-link off" |
| 06:41.21 | Bleeter | mp: before I check in the 'fixed' handler, i'm looking at another area that seems to be a little bugged right now, I shan't checkin until I work out if it's a bug or a feature ;) |
| 06:41.43 | MentalPower | features are good :) |
| 06:41.47 | Aethelwulf | and before you ask I tried disabling the vBagnon addon and I still got that error |
| 06:41.56 | Aethelwulf | MentalPower - posted at http://ctscreens.net/983 |
| 06:42.12 | MentalPower | Aethelwulf: yup saw it, researching |
| 06:42.22 | MentalPower | what version of informant are you running? |
| 06:43.02 | Aethelwulf | I think I downloaded the auctioneer complete today so what ever version is in there |
| 06:43.25 | Bleeter | np: in a nutshell, i'm trying to ascertain what the second param is for in a couple of the commands when the help indicates there's only one param |
| 06:43.46 | Aethelwulf | MentalPower from the informant .toc file ## Version: 3.9.0.1102 (Kangaroo) |
| 06:44.16 | MentalPower | what item where you trying to show? |
| 06:44.23 | MentalPower | or is it any item? |
| 06:44.34 | Aethelwulf | it does that for any item bandages poisons, my weapons |
| 06:47.10 | ScratchMonkey | that's interesting. I've had WoW crash twice now with common.mpq reported as corrupt. |
| 06:47.26 | ScratchMonkey | i didn't reproduce the tooltip bug though |
| 06:47.44 | MentalPower | I can't repro either |
| 06:48.09 | ScratchMonkey | i'm using r1112 |
| 06:48.28 | Aethelwulf | well I just downloaded the auctioneer complete 1117 I will try running with that and see if I have the same problem |
| 06:48.50 | ScratchMonkey | can anyone give me an md5 on common.mpg (us english)? |
| 06:48.59 | ScratchMonkey | mpq that is |
| 06:49.59 | Bleeter | data/common.MPQ ? |
| 06:50.52 | MentalPower | calculating, one sec |
| 06:50.58 | Thyme41 | Should I back that up myself before I launch wow now then? |
| 06:51.10 | MentalPower | you shoudn't need to |
| 06:51.24 | Thyme41 | Okay. |
| 06:51.30 | MentalPower | ScratchMonkey: you can also try the repair.exe utility |
| 06:51.46 | ScratchMonkey | thanks |
| 06:51.57 | ScratchMonkey | waiting for md5summer to get its number, about 1/2 done |
| 06:52.59 | ScratchMonkey | 1bdc3fa3122290002da1a752f9d00265 *common.MPQ |
| 06:53.02 | ScratchMonkey | big file |
| 06:53.03 | Bluekul | When i attamp to search for "Stormshroud Pants" it does display the results, but a box pops up also,saying "..terface/AddOns/Auctioneer/Database/AucSnapshotDB.lua:1069: attempt to compare nil with string" what the hell does that mean? |
| 06:53.58 | ScratchMonkey | file size for common.mpq is 3,838,254,223 |
| 06:54.03 | Bleeter | mine's still calcing the md5 as well |
| 06:54.10 | Aethelwulf | are been counter and itemizer supposed to be reporting as incompatible? |
| 06:54.17 | Bleeter | file sizes don't mean squat, particularly on a virtual file system like mpq |
| 06:54.18 | Bluekul | yes |
| 06:54.20 | MentalPower | Aethelwulf: yep |
| 06:54.29 | Bleeter | at least, as far as I understand mpq |
| 06:54.43 | Bluekul | mental what does that error mean |
| 06:54.45 | ScratchMonkey | size should still be consistent, unless that file changes over time |
| 06:54.47 | Bluekul | is it a bug? |
| 06:55.08 | MentalPower | ya, still fixing it |
| 06:55.18 | Aethelwulf | ahh that could be the problem |
| 06:55.33 | Aethelwulf | when I sawthem reporting as incompatable, I disabled them >.< |
| 06:55.47 | Aethelwulf | please don't think I am a toolbox now LOL |
| 06:55.55 | Sanpaku | OKay -- some of us had their old Gatherer files convert -- others blacked out altogther |
| 06:55.58 | ScratchMonkey | is there a utility for reading an mpq, like unzip or unrar? that might be useful in checking the file's integrity |
| 06:55.59 | MentalPower | that shoudn't matter |
| 06:56.10 | Sanpaku | and some have the circles in colors so faded it's hard to see them |
| 06:56.14 | MentalPower | Sanpaku: the conversion routines aren't robust yet |
| 06:56.30 | Sanpaku | jsut save gather*.*? |
| 06:56.58 | Sanpaku | share btw seemed to work fine otherwise |
| 06:57.07 | MentalPower | I'd suggest that you start fresh for now, till we can polish the conversion functions |
| 06:57.13 | MentalPower | cool! |
| 06:57.19 | Sanpaku | yeah -- that was slick |
| 06:57.40 | ScratchMonkey | btw, offtopic, there's a myspace worm sweeping the site, look out if you have an account, it's a password sniffer http://www.websense.com/securitylabs/alerts/alert.php?AlertID=708 |
| 06:57.58 | Sanpaku | we'll keep checking -- only about 5 of us so far but I'll put it on our forums, so I'll have at least 20 on it by tomorrow |
| 06:58.00 | ScratchMonkey | NOT related to norgana stuff in any way, just that a lot of folk have myspace accounts these days |
| 06:58.10 | Sanpaku | ScratchMonkey --- thanks |
| 06:58.21 | Sanpaku | and thanks agian guys -- gnight |
| 06:58.51 | MentalPower | ScratchMonkey: 0093959af963066642a132b7ef26358f |
| 06:59.19 | ScratchMonkey | looks like mine is trash then |
| 06:59.25 | MentalPower | I'd wait for confirmation tho |
| 06:59.28 | Aethelwulf | MentalPower - i disabled every thing and Iam slowly re enableing every thing I had loaded to see which addon caused the problems with enhanced tooltip and informant... |
| 06:59.57 | MentalPower | Aethelwulf: that would be awesome, thanks :) |
| 07:00.01 | ScratchMonkey | it's ok, his old 386 is smoking right now ;) |
| 07:00.39 | MentalPower | lol! |
| 07:00.58 | ScratchMonkey | gack, remember when a 386 was a hot CPU? About 1989, when my Sun 386i with the extra-cost 25 MHz chip was bling |
| 07:01.56 | Thyme41 | I remember when I was playing DOS games off 5.5" floppies on my old 486. |
| 07:02.14 | ScratchMonkey | I'm not *quite* old enough to remember when "bugs" were actual insects trapped in the relays :P |
| 07:02.18 | Thyme41 | I was the shizzle at Slayter and Charlie. >.> |
| 07:02.39 | TseTse | is there a site where i can lookup /script PetBarFrame (and learn how to use it?) |
| 07:03.05 | MentalPower | what about the petbarframe? |
| 07:03.10 | MentalPower | what do you wanna know? |
| 07:03.17 | TseTse | just how to toggle it showing |
| 07:03.35 | TseTse | blizz didnt fix the bug where it vanishes |
| 07:03.40 | MentalPower | :Show() |
| 07:03.47 | MentalPower | www.wowwiki.com |
| 07:03.58 | MentalPower | --/script PetBarFrame:Show() |
| 07:04.29 | ScratchMonkey | I just googled PetBarFrame and found a forum post saying it's attached to the main bar, so if you hide the main bar, the pet bar disappears |
| 07:04.32 | Bleeter | gah, i was just testing barker out again, and someone's started a freaken argument in trade about some buddy of his who 'got banned for using auctioneer'... how do people with such low IQ even find the keyboard? |
| 07:04.49 | TseTse | oic, k |
| 07:04.53 | ScratchMonkey | just follow the drool and see where the puddle is |
| 07:05.01 | MentalPower | Bleeter: lol |
| 07:05.17 | MentalPower | Bleeter: did you 386PC finish computing the MD5? |
| 07:05.19 | Thyme41 | Depends on the kind of idiot, it may not be drool you're following. |
| 07:05.20 | MentalPower | :P |
| 07:05.34 | ScratchMonkey | like how you know when their computer chair is level: drool comes out of *both* sides of their mouth! |
| 07:05.41 | TseTse | think i tried :Show() and it didnt work, so the bug might not be a simple hide/show issue. i'll try it again next time |
| 07:05.52 | Bleeter | mp: heh, nah... P4, running wow and cygwin and... urgh, not many spare cycles at the moment ;) |
| 07:06.09 | ScratchMonkey | boy, i know what that's like |
| 07:06.10 | Bleeter | doing the calc in cygwin i think is my downfall haha |
| 07:06.19 | ScratchMonkey | i need to upgrade to a dual-core so i can compile and play at the same time |
| 07:06.26 | ScratchMonkey | compiling just lags me out horribly |
| 07:07.21 | Bluekul | man can anyone get onto mod sites, for some reason i cant now |
| 07:07.37 | ScratchMonkey | just tried repair.exe and it tells me it doesn't support my version |
| 07:07.43 | Thyme41 | Alright I'm installing more addons. I hope I won't have to but I might be back here later tonight if auctioneer gives me trouble. See you all later. |
| 07:08.05 | *** part/#norganna Thyme41 (i=Anonymou@cpe-76-168-177-8.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 07:08.17 | Bleeter | $ md5sum.exe common.MPQ |
| 07:08.18 | Bleeter | d103b7fd3e7248fba6ef15dea8cb498b *common.MPQ |
| 07:08.37 | Jingoist | No two of them match. :D |
| 07:09.14 | MentalPower | hmm, well thats no surprise, we all prolly had different update paths |
| 07:09.39 | ScratchMonkey | ah, that sucks that it's not a constant deterministic value |
| 07:09.54 | Bleeter | probasbly need to unpack the MPQ, and sum the files inside, really |
| 07:10.08 | MentalPower | thats what the repair.exe does |
| 07:10.20 | MentalPower | seems that its definition files haven't been updated |
| 07:10.22 | Bleeter | no suprise there |
| 07:10.25 | MentalPower | (yet) |
| 07:10.54 | Bleeter | hmm, seem to recall something on the forums about unsupported version errors, can't recall what specifically tho |
| 07:12.15 | ScratchMonkey | found repair.zip on blizzard site, comparing to the one i have |
| 07:14.05 | ScratchMonkey | no joy, repair.exe from that zip is dated 9/26 |
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| 07:16.29 | MentalPower | ok, I'm outta time for tonight, |
| 07:16.49 | MentalPower | and it seems that the "compare number with nil" error goes deeper than I thought |
| 07:16.55 | MentalPower | gnight guys |
| 07:17.20 | Aethelwulf | so far so good... |
| 07:21.41 | Bleeter | nn MentalPower|ZZzz |
| 07:23.10 | Aethelwulf | for those interested it was an addon called playerexpbar |
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| 07:28.30 | Aethelwulf | now to see if I can go get an answer out of the rogues channel on quakenet |
| 07:30.40 | m0oman | woohoo. patch downloaded in 13 minutes and 12 seconds. \o/ |
| 07:37.36 | GomiSensei|WoWin | bah, no shadowstep |
| 07:39.08 | GomiSensei|WoWin | bahahahahahaha |
| 07:39.10 | GomiSensei|WoWin | http://forum.darthnader.com/viewtopic.php?p=668#668 |
| 07:39.32 | GomiSensei|WoWin | </bullshit angry propaganda> |
| 07:42.14 | Bleeter | updated EnxCommand.lua checked in |
| 07:42.23 | bev | omhg reload ui |
| 07:42.43 | Bleeter | still not that happy with it, definately needs lots of loving, but the commands seem to be more usable now ;) |
| 07:46.09 | GomiSensei|WoWin | gatherer needs a subversion server |
| 07:53.56 | Miravlix | If I had a php based control interface for webdav I could host that. |
| 07:55.20 | GomiSensei | well, i doubt i'd have ever used svn if not for the tbc and beta stuff |
| 07:55.42 | GomiSensei | but no discord for at least a month, I may just give up for a while |
| 07:55.58 | GomiSensei | cuz i can't stand ag_unitframes |
| 07:56.14 | Miravlix | Atleast there will be one |
| 07:56.17 | GomiSensei | and the action button mods are weak |
| 07:56.28 | Miravlix | My druid is dead due to mod changes and I cant fix it. |
| 07:56.36 | GomiSensei | i'll prolly have to learn lua and code my own |
| 07:56.52 | Miravlix | Naah, thats silly |
| 07:57.01 | GomiSensei | i think I did a good conversion of censusplus, tho |
| 07:57.06 | Miravlix | Its far better to join a existing team |
| 07:57.08 | GomiSensei | managed to hack gatherer into working |
| 07:57.32 | GomiSensei | well, existing teams don't exist for all the little mods that were already out of development last year |
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| 07:58.36 | Terron | anyone here? |
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| 07:58.55 | Miravlix | http://www.arcdraco.net/svn/ |
| 07:58.56 | GomiSensei | my main faves are auctioneer, gatherer, discord, fubar (used to be titan) |
| 07:59.14 | Miravlix | Not a team but it does contain some age old addons I keep alive |
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| 08:00.42 | GomiSensei | yeah, what i'd prolly do for my mods |
| 08:01.03 | GomiSensei | i discored bagnon tho, it's a pretty nice bag/bank addon |
| 08:01.16 | GomiSensei | the new vBagnon looks to be shaping up nicely |
| 08:01.23 | Asadas | is there a new bagnon? |
| 08:01.27 | GomiSensei | yeah |
| 08:01.32 | Asadas | Curse and Wowinterface are DEAD |
| 08:01.36 | GomiSensei | been using it on tbc for a few months |
| 08:01.36 | Asadas | I cant get shit |
| 08:01.45 | Asadas | <== Not in beta =(( |
| 08:01.46 | GomiSensei | worldofwar is ok |
| 08:01.55 | Asadas | i just tried it like 10 min ago |
| 08:02.08 | GomiSensei | really? It's slow, but not unworkable as wowinterface |
| 08:02.13 | Asadas | i can get on worldofwar.net |
| 08:02.21 | GomiSensei | then again, I'm a suppoter |
| 08:02.22 | Asadas | but not ui.worldofwar.net |
| 08:02.50 | Terron | curse just let me download something |
| 08:03.01 | Asadas | i was runnin reborn UI and the whole UI is crashed |
| 08:03.11 | GomiSensei | i was all happy till i found out no shadowstep rogue talent |
| 08:03.11 | Terron | yeah most of those are |
| 08:03.20 | Terron | nurfed UI did too |
| 08:03.25 | Asadas | Discord did |
| 08:03.27 | GomiSensei | there are a few tbc addons that should work ok |
| 08:03.33 | Asadas | Nurfed is updated except the bars |
| 08:03.37 | Terron | bongos has a version that works in 2.0 |
| 08:03.42 | GomiSensei | yeah |
| 08:03.43 | Terron | and it's pretty much the same as discord |
| 08:03.56 | Asadas | i used discord for the art |
| 08:03.58 | Asadas | =D |
| 08:04.00 | Terron | :P |
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| 08:04.46 | GomiSensei | discord was harder to set up, but a LOT more versatile |
| 08:05.06 | GomiSensei | trinity is what I settled on out of bartender3, bongos, and trinity |
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| 08:05.49 | GomiSensei | the BCbeta mods should mostly work on live now |
| 08:05.55 | Terron | yeah, makes sense |
| 08:05.57 | GomiSensei | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/index.php?cid=89 |
| 08:06.05 | Bluekul | Hello all i'm back! |
| 08:06.06 | GomiSensei | a bit slow, but... |
| 08:06.58 | GomiSensei | ok, i'm giving up and going to bed |
| 08:07.11 | Bluekul | How come i cant load WOWinterface.com? |
| 08:07.26 | Terron | cause everything is getting hammered |
| 08:07.38 | Bluekul | what do you mean? |
| 08:07.46 | Terron | everyone's addons broke in the patch |
| 08:07.53 | GomiSensei | yeah |
| 08:07.53 | Terron | so they're trying to download new ones / updated versions |
| 08:08.03 | Terron | and the servers just can't handle it |
| 08:08.03 | Bluekul | haha! |
| 08:08.10 | Bluekul | stupid servers |
| 08:08.17 | GomiSensei | i'm getting stuff from wowinterface |
| 08:08.22 | Miravlix | You cant even do load out of date addons |
| 08:08.31 | Miravlix | So they have no choice but to grab new ones |
| 08:08.33 | GomiSensei | they got an addon that tells you waht got blocked and why |
| 08:09.17 | GomiSensei | think Imma have to just rename my wtf |
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| 08:09.43 | Asadas | im finally browsing curse. its slow. but i am. |
| 08:09.52 | Bleeter | a blue sticky said everyone should rename wtf, wds and interface before patching |
| 08:10.01 | Bleeter | or move it out of the tree, etc. |
| 08:10.04 | Terron | huh |
| 08:10.11 | Bleeter | *wdb |
| 08:10.11 | Terron | everything worked fine for me |
| 08:10.18 | Terron | hopefully it won't all come crashing down |
| 08:10.25 | GomiSensei | me too, till i moved my bc mods over |
| 08:10.40 | Bleeter | your operational success by not moving those folders is not proof that it'll work for everyone else |
| 08:10.45 | Terron | oh i agree |
| 08:10.53 | GomiSensei | IT worked for me (tm) |
| 08:11.17 | GomiSensei | wds? |
| 08:11.26 | Miravlix | tHAT JUST bullshit |
| 08:11.32 | Miravlix | to tell people to remove wtf |
| 08:11.36 | Miravlix | they loss all settings |
| 08:12.07 | GomiSensei | it's to cover their asses |
| 08:12.19 | GomiSensei | so they can say "well, we told you to..." |
| 08:12.44 | Miravlix | Freaking no it's not acceptable that we have to wipe to update |
| 08:12.50 | Bleeter | yes, I pointed that out to them, and ever since they've used the words 'move' or 'rename' |
| 08:12.55 | GomiSensei | yu don't have to |
| 08:13.01 | Miravlix | If anything they uncovered there ass by saying so |
| 08:13.26 | Bleeter | no, they've limited the number of support calls to them that are due to people.. like us! :) |
| 08:13.52 | Bleeter | there's no counting the stupidity of people seeing mod errors and blaming blizzard |
| 08:13.56 | GomiSensei | yeah, redoing your settings is familar terriotry to most |
| 08:14.13 | GomiSensei | whereas deciding which settings are screwing with you are not |
| 08:14.26 | GomiSensei | me, I don't need support |
| 08:14.37 | GomiSensei | or blizz telling me what I should do |
| 08:14.57 | Bleeter | yes, but as the old LFG channel would prove daily, there's far more stupid people playing wow than sane ones ;) |
| 08:14.59 | GomiSensei | like any tech support in the industry, most frequent advice given... reinstall |
| 08:15.12 | GomiSensei | all channels prove that |
| 08:15.14 | GomiSensei | heh |
| 08:15.18 | Bleeter | true |
| 08:15.24 | GomiSensei | I like the idea of a world wide chat chan |
| 08:15.38 | m0oman | the problem is, in a bad case scenario moving won't save the wtf folder from being read on a mac. :p |
| 08:15.44 | GomiSensei | default jonined |
| 08:16.01 | GomiSensei | people use macs? |
| 08:16.08 | GomiSensei | freaky |
| 08:16.14 | m0oman | yes. what else would you use? |
| 08:16.22 | GomiSensei | notamac |
| 08:16.30 | GomiSensei | heh |
| 08:16.37 | m0oman | i don't fancy lego for work. :p |
| 08:16.47 | Bleeter | linux on a 8 way sparc box! :P |
| 08:16.48 | Curnguz | is there a beta version of auctioneer for 2.0? |
| 08:17.08 | Bleeter | rolling restarts @ 2am PST |
| 08:17.32 | Curnguz | ah, i found it |
| 08:17.34 | Miravlix | You need PC hardware to run Wine and WoW? |
| 08:17.51 | m0oman | you need x86. |
| 08:18.07 | m0oman | or some compatible derivate of that. |
| 08:18.37 | m0oman | linux for productive use is just missing so much essential software (which, frankly, isn't exactly the fault of linux) :/ |
| 08:18.50 | Terron | depends what you mean by productive :P |
| 08:18.53 | Miravlix | It doest |
| 08:19.07 | Miravlix | The problem is you define productivie to require Microsoft Office |
| 08:19.17 | m0oman | i don't use microsoft office. |
| 08:19.18 | Miravlix | and 3 other locked in products |
| 08:19.23 | GomiSensei | openoffice does kinda suck |
| 08:19.28 | Terron | yeah it does |
| 08:19.34 | Miravlix | Seems good to me |
| 08:19.38 | GomiSensei | the windows version, anyways |
| 08:19.51 | Miravlix | Whats wrong with it? |
| 08:20.09 | GomiSensei | bulky, slower than ms version (seriosuly) compatibility issues |
| 08:20.24 | GomiSensei | again, I'm talking the windows version |
| 08:20.34 | GomiSensei | i only use linux as a server |
| 08:20.38 | m0oman | just flash, a common audio sequencer and video editing software. :p |
| 08:20.41 | GomiSensei | not a desktop |
| 08:20.42 | Bleeter | compatibility with what? |
| 08:20.46 | Terron | linux version is rough too |
| 08:20.49 | Miravlix | Ive never used WIndows |
| 08:20.51 | Bleeter | it's not as if M$'s 'standards' are open |
| 08:20.52 | Terron | compatibility with MS word docs |
| 08:20.53 | m0oman | with ms office documents. :P |
| 08:20.57 | Miravlix | Went from OS/2 to Linux |
| 08:21.03 | Bleeter | so everything has to be reverse engineered |
| 08:21.07 | Miravlix | 13 years ago I skipped windows entirely |
| 08:21.24 | GomiSensei | not me, I liked using software |
| 08:21.26 | Bleeter | I've made my living in my hometown out of not doing macs or windows |
| 08:21.28 | GomiSensei | that worked |
| 08:21.29 | bev | i just had the worst scholo run. 1 full set of my gear is 0 durability, and a shaman piece dropped that a lock needed and won from me |
| 08:21.35 | GomiSensei | was there ever os/2 doom? |
| 08:21.48 | GomiSensei | guess it was dos, so yeah |
| 08:22.04 | m0oman | never tried the good old amiga os? that was one hell of an operating system. :p |
| 08:22.06 | Bleeter | i think it ran on os/2, can't recall precisely |
| 08:22.12 | Miravlix | No |
| 08:22.15 | Bleeter | my brother runs doom on his ipod |
| 08:22.21 | Miravlix | My father bought an IBM PC in 1981 |
| 08:22.23 | m0oman | comparable to mac os pre x. |
| 08:22.30 | Terron | there's a whole site devoted to seeing what doom can run on |
| 08:22.34 | Bleeter | amigaos seriously rocked for it's time |
| 08:22.34 | Miravlix | So Ive never used all those crap machines |
| 08:22.40 | Miravlix | We went directly to PCs |
| 08:22.52 | Bleeter | the rest of the industry took about 15 years to catch up.. there were some severe limitations with it, mind you, but it still rocked |
| 08:23.01 | GomiSensei | hehe, i had macs at school, monocolor noHD floppy machines |
| 08:23.25 | Bleeter | additionally, amiga had the whole integrated media centre idea down pat back around circa 1987, and everyone was 'wtf you want a computer that plays movies for in your stereo setup?!' |
| 08:23.29 | GomiSensei | all i remember is dark castle, and macpuke |
| 08:23.41 | m0oman | hm. everbody grows to hate school computers. if it's macs, it's even easier to find something to blame over the incompetent admins. |
| 08:23.55 | m0oman | haha macpuke ftw. \o/ |
| 08:23.56 | GomiSensei | actually I hacked ther school network |
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| 08:24.13 | GomiSensei | macpuke makes a puking sound when you eject your floppy |
| 08:24.15 | GomiSensei | haha |
| 08:24.31 | GomiSensei | I was dialing LD to bbs'es from the networked modem |
| 08:24.39 | Bleeter | being in australia, the bbc micro was very widely used over here. that was actually a great educational machine. could incorporate assembler into basic code, had mutliple hardware interfaces, co-processor capability, networking |
| 08:24.46 | GomiSensei | downloading porn pics, and posting them on the file servers |
| 08:25.02 | Bleeter | all on a 6502 based machine in around 1980 |
| 08:25.26 | GomiSensei | haha, I'll never forget the day someone found my stash, and then it was on everyone in classes screen when the tracher walked in |
| 08:25.41 | GomiSensei | it was a day I wasn't there |
| 08:25.43 | Bleeter | problem with computers nowadays, is that there's no prompt at boot up. people don't actually get to learn about how they work now in school |
| 08:25.57 | Bleeter | computer studies seems to be about how to make a nice powerpoint presentation, and nothing else |
| 08:25.58 | Miravlix | My school didnt have computers. :p |
| 08:26.07 | GomiSensei | people don't wanna know, it's a tool |
| 08:26.21 | GomiSensei | just like you don't need to know physics if your laser is working right |
| 08:26.32 | Bleeter | i got suspended for being asked to do an audit of my highschool's network, and discovering a teacher's pirated games and pron |
| 08:27.07 | Miravlix | Yeah sure, it wasnt because you stole the software or something other illegally |
| 08:27.21 | GomiSensei | ok, i go sleep now |
| 08:27.30 | Bleeter | nah, i was asked to check certain network drives, and just did the lot |
| 08:27.32 | GomiSensei | L8a kidz |
| 08:27.38 | Miravlix | I dont beleive in I'm oh so innocent stories |
| 08:27.39 | m0oman | imo that's not the point of a modern computer anyway. you get a computer to do what you want with it. not to spend 80% of the time actually trying to figure it out or getting to know how it works. it simply just should work. and that's where windows spectacularly fails. D: |
| 08:27.40 | Bleeter | so I broke the directive |
| 08:28.43 | Bleeter | m0oman: that's true, but it's not what an educational class called 'computer science' or 'computer studies' should teach |
| 08:28.59 | m0oman | well, yeah. |
| 08:29.07 | Asadas | Theres a jail full of innocent peeps in every town Just go ask em . They all will tell u they are innocent |
| 08:29.18 | Bleeter | not knowing the basics of how any computer bootstraps, a little about the general architecture.. generic stuff, is like giving away driver's licenses and expecting everyone to stay on the road |
| 08:29.26 | Miravlix | m0oman: The technoligy that makes a computer work like a car wont be here for another 30 years |
| 08:29.28 | m0oman | "computer science" at my school taught how to use ms works. |
| 08:29.39 | Bleeter | oh no, i was definately guilty of not following instructions |
| 08:29.47 | Miravlix | So I think it's bull to expect people to have no computer knowglede and use them |
| 08:30.00 | Miravlix | and we see how botnets can control the net with intimidation |
| 08:30.13 | Miravlix | Because people really shouldnt be using computers yet |
| 08:30.31 | m0oman | Miravlix: it will never be like a car - just because the line between development, development/use and pure clueless use is so thin at times. |
| 08:31.06 | Miravlix | I think safe computing as safe as car driving with minimal license training is possible |
| 08:31.40 | Bleeter | safe computing? computer, no HD, no cpu, no ram, concrete pit, no power cables, no network |
| 08:31.44 | m0oman | i blame >50% of the bots to be ms fault because they don't allow security patches on pirated machines. (i understand why they have that policy, but in the end they just cut themselves with it) |
| 08:32.36 | m0oman | it should be possible after >20 years of extensive gui development. but i don't think there's a full market for it. would more likely be moving towards non sophisticated devices, like set top boxes/tablet pcs/consoles. |
| 08:32.52 | Bleeter | i think that's more due to the inherent flaws way back when (ie, absolutely no concept of security in earlier versions), NT started adressing the issue, and for domestic purposes only kind of started happening with XP. It'll probably take two or three more gens for Windows to be reasonably secure. |
| 08:33.01 | m0oman | a general desktop/workstation machine simply is more than the average user needs anyway. |
| 08:33.40 | Miravlix | Blaming windows is pointles |
| 08:33.48 | Miravlix | When no one else is able to do better |
| 08:34.17 | Miravlix | We just dont have the software development technoligy level that is high enough to make safe computers |
| 08:34.22 | Miravlix | But it will come some day |
| 08:34.28 | m0oman | no it won't. :p |
| 08:34.45 | m0oman | safety always has been and always will be illusion. |
| 08:34.53 | m0oman | it's only good aslong as nobody breaks it. |
| 08:35.08 | Miravlix | Your reading ot many dark scifi books. :p |
| 08:35.19 | m0oman | i'm not reading any scifi books. :p |
| 08:40.49 | Bleeter | tree of life durid says 'I'm not dancing, I'm having sunlight withdrawls' hehe |
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| 08:42.50 | Asadas | Give him a shiny apple and tell him YOU DROPPED THIS |
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| 08:57.28 | m0oman | yay finally my cable line got updated. more upstream ftw. \o/ |
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| 09:06.04 | m0oman | only 3 hours to go, officially. woo. |
| 09:07.53 | zanny | hey folks |
| 09:08.10 | zanny | anyone uses alphas with 2.0 yet ? |
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| 09:13.49 | Jingoist | On typing /auctioneer with Auctioneer 3.9.0.1115, AucCommand.lua:1539, bad argument #2 to format (expected string, got nil) |
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| 09:18.50 | Trela | Is it cool to report bugs in here? |
| 09:20.07 | Trela | AucSnapshotDB.lua. On line 682 it is comparing a string to a number. I stuck tonumber around them and it fixed the problem. This is using the latest 3.9 development version. |
| 09:20.39 | Trela | ...Damn topic not expanding! *looks at link* |
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| 09:31.31 | kerveros | hi all |
| 09:32.28 | Miravlix | Hey |
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| 09:38.49 | AucUser | hi, was wondering what the auctioneer's svn address is, couldn't find it on the webpage |
| 09:40.08 | norgs | sure |
| 09:40.24 | norgs | it's http://norganna.org/svn/auctioneer/trunk |
| 09:41.02 | AucUser | thanks alot norgs |
| 09:42.59 | Cera | damn it, for some reason I can't scan talents at startup :-/ |
| 09:43.20 | AucUser | do you know if there's a way to read the commit notes? |
| 09:44.00 | Bleeter | yes |
| 09:44.13 | Cera | TortoiseSVN -> Show Log |
| 09:44.54 | AucUser | just curious if a problem i'm having w/ rev 1117 has been adressed in 1118. the conversion destroys my db data |
| 09:45.16 | Bleeter | from what I understand, there's no migration code for the DB until release |
| 09:45.24 | Bleeter | as the structure for release is still in a bit of flux |
| 09:45.48 | AucUser | ah ok, makes sence |
| 09:45.52 | norgs | that's correct. the conversion code is waiting for the format to be bedded down |
| 09:47.21 | Bleeter | wow, a guildie here has -3 honor. no previous DK's, and they've just logged in |
| 09:47.33 | AucUser | thanks for explaining |
| 09:49.43 | Miravlix | Why not make a table with and a engine that reads the table to convert the data, that way it can be eaily updated every time the format change |
| 09:50.06 | Miravlix | Could even contain multiple versions to convert from |
| 09:55.12 | AucUser | The format of that "table" would be subject to change aswell i guess. The converter would have to guess from which version it has to convert |
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| 09:56.19 | AucUser | But while your at it, i'd like to see my Actioneer data stored in a sql database :) |
| 09:56.46 | Miravlix | That sound like using nuclear bombs to kill flys |
| 09:56.51 | Miravlix | Major overkill |
| 09:57.44 | AucUser | for the sole purpose of auctioneer? yes |
| 09:58.16 | m0oman | you'll have a hard time putting wow data into an sql database anyway. :p |
| 09:58.31 | Miravlix | Not really |
| 09:58.59 | m0oman | O_o how would you access the server from within the game? |
| 09:59.13 | Miravlix | But we might just see a slowdown instead of a speedup |
| 09:59.16 | Bleeter | recreating the auctioneer to web thing as GPL and getting it working is on my list of things to do |
| 09:59.26 | AucUser | sqlclient.lua (yet to be written) ;) |
| 09:59.48 | Bleeter | sending data to an external app is a violation of Blizz's ToS, iirc |
| 10:00.00 | m0oman | well umm addons are pretty much instanciated to wow itself. :p |
| 10:00.01 | Bleeter | ingame, that is |
| 10:00.09 | m0oman | it is. |
| 10:00.14 | SDraconis | so WoWRoster is violating ToS? |
| 10:00.26 | norgs | nope |
| 10:00.31 | Bleeter | no, it doesn't update in realtime, only when the SV is updated |
| 10:00.36 | SDraconis | ah |
| 10:00.37 | Bleeter | or when it's done manually |
| 10:00.45 | SDraconis | very small line to cross there |
| 10:00.51 | norgs | wowroster accesses the addon's files only after the game writes them |
| 10:01.10 | norgs | there's 2 issues: |
| 10:01.15 | AucUser | well, i read the ToS during the downtimes, if i read it right you're not allowed to fart during the runtime of Blizzard owned code aswell |
| 10:01.17 | m0oman | well it's not wowroster itself anyway. it's an additional uploader. |
| 10:01.34 | Bleeter | i've got a g15 keyboard, there's stuff I'd like to see on the LCD display, but blizz won't right it due to security/3rd party issue stuff |
| 10:01.37 | norgs | you may not have a third-party application interacting with the running game in any fashion |
| 10:01.56 | Bleeter | *write |
| 10:02.07 | norgs | you may not also decompile or reverse engineer game files (this is DMCA) |
| 10:02.08 | Bleeter | afk, drink time |
| 10:02.17 | m0oman | i have an activity monitor checking the resources wow eats. :p |
| 10:02.19 | Miravlix | Im outside the US. :) |
| 10:02.30 | norgs | since wowroster does nitehr of these, it's fine |
| 10:02.31 | Miravlix | 1: TOS doesnt work legaly for me |
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| 10:02.39 | norgs | Miravlix: where abouts are you Mira? |
| 10:02.50 | m0oman | the eula/tos don't work for most non us countries anyway. |
| 10:02.52 | Miravlix | EU |
| 10:02.55 | Bleeter | we've got a section in our (C) law that says reverse engineering is fine, if it's so we can write programs that interoperate with close source |
| 10:03.09 | AucUser | if they want they can terminate your account for no reason |
| 10:03.13 | Bleeter | close source/closed api |
| 10:03.29 | Bleeter | but yes, blizz owns everything, and they can pretty much do what they like |
| 10:03.36 | Miravlix | EU law protects end users, not companies like in the US |
| 10:04.10 | Miravlix | It makes it quite different what a company can get away with around here |
| 10:04.10 | m0oman | still even in eu law they can just delete your account if they feel like it. :p |
| 10:04.23 | Miravlix | They just lost the lfg gay announcement thing |
| 10:04.38 | AucUser | well would you really go to court for getting your wow account back? :) |
| 10:04.46 | norgs | the question is.. the EULA in europe... does is subject you to the legal jurisdiction of california? |
| 10:04.49 | Miravlix | As an example where they run afoul of EU laws |
| 10:06.09 | m0oman | it doesn't refer to california, just tho the US in general. |
| 10:06.29 | m0oman | PLUS their office in velizy. |
| 10:07.21 | m0oman | choose your language: English |
| 10:07.24 | m0oman | huh. |
| 10:12.09 | Miravlix | Sometimes you have to think of the bigger picture, getting a law ruling on a thing like this will protect millions of EU citizens |
| 10:12.10 | SDraconis | so what's known to be broken in the alpha version? |
| 10:15.06 | Miravlix | Just about everything thats why it isnt close to release. :) |
| 10:16.54 | Miravlix | Error: attempt to compare number with nil |
| 10:16.54 | Miravlix | AddOn: Gatherer |
| 10:16.54 | Miravlix | File: GatherCommand.lua |
| 10:16.56 | Miravlix | Line: 94 |
| 10:17.08 | SDraconis | damn. I hadn't noticed anything glaring when I tried it. I'm guessing it's mostly underneath stuff? |
| 10:17.37 | Antari | Stubby doesn't like it when I feed my pet :( |
| 10:18.19 | Miravlix | The 5.0 lua to 5.1 upgrade is pulling a fast one on everyone especially since Blizzard refused to use the COMP option for a few patches |
| 10:19.30 | Miravlix | I just cant figure out why they have this hard line with addon developers |
| 10:19.58 | ScoTTie | fairness |
| 10:20.02 | Miravlix | It wouldnt hurt them to give us some space and have a patch with overlapping functionality so our old addons wouldnt break until next patch |
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| 10:21.24 | Antari | Well, if they use the comp option, then they have to break all the addons TWICE (once now, and once later when the comp option is removed), and they did give 10+ weeks warning of the changes, and access to the beta server to test addons, etc. |
| 10:21.25 | SDraconis | wtf? It looks like I have monitor burn-in from my WoW action bar on my LCD... |
| 10:22.30 | Miravlix | Antari: No they idnt give any warning |
| 10:22.46 | Miravlix | They just tell us your addon will break, hahaha |
| 10:23.01 | Miravlix | Wth are we going to do with that, we cant code before we have the new version |
| 10:23.28 | Miravlix | They need to give us a new version with overlapping functionality where new and old works |
| 10:23.30 | Antari | Miravlix - If you read the UI & Macros forum they were detailing the lua changes for the last 10 weeks... The beta server has been available with the code in the 2.0.1 patch for a month |
| 10:23.37 | Miravlix | So we can code updates |
| 10:23.46 | Miravlix | Cosmos was broken in 2.0.1 |
| 10:23.54 | Miravlix | We didnt KNOW until we loade it on live |
| 10:24.00 | m0oman | cosmos still exists? :o |
| 10:24.08 | norgs | The problem is Antari that we were in the middle of 2 very big upgrades at the time. We've been rushing as much as we can to push them to completion, but unfortunatly we have lost some devs for the last few weeks due to exams |
| 10:24.09 | Antari | Did it load on beta? If it worked on beta, it should have worked on live |
| 10:24.25 | Miravlix | It worked in beta |
| 10:24.31 | Miravlix | But they changed things in 2.0.1 |
| 10:24.38 | Antari | I understand that, but I'm just saying Blizzard did give warning and access to a test bed |
| 10:24.42 | Miravlix | We dont get a chance in hell |
| 10:24.49 | Miravlix | No they didnt |
| 10:24.59 | Miravlix | We dont get full access until its released on live |
| 10:25.02 | Miravlix | and then its too late |
| 10:25.04 | m0oman | they changed a lot from the beta servers to the patch that currently is live. |
| 10:25.05 | norgs | They've been changing things right up to the end... heck, they're still changing things on TBC |
| 10:25.10 | m0oman | good example: durid talents. |
| 10:25.16 | m0oman | they're a complete mess now. |
| 10:25.24 | m0oman | they worked fine in the beta. |
| 10:25.27 | Fze | theres another patch coming post 2.0.1 dec 20 :\ is that going to affect the release of the addons? |
| 10:25.34 | Antari | That's cause live is an old version of beta :( |
| 10:26.14 | m0oman | they probably just upgraded the servers with the wrong rc. :p |
| 10:26.30 | m0oman | wouldn't surprise me, especially looking at blizzard qa. |
| 10:26.44 | SDraconis | okay, this is fucked up. I just tried hooking up the LCD to a different computer and it's still there. Definite burn-in |
| 10:27.04 | m0oman | how the hell would you get a burn-in with an lcd? O_O |
| 10:27.12 | SDraconis | that's why I'm confused! |
| 10:27.17 | Antari | I think their main problem is the beta server doesn't have a 'live' database to test with, it has a nice clean fresh one for beta, and then when they install that patch on the live servers and go to update the DB - BOOM! |
| 10:27.19 | SDraconis | and it's not like I was playing that long |
| 10:27.52 | SDraconis | but yeah, it still shows up when I hook the screen up to another comp over RGB (it's connected here over DVI) |
| 10:27.55 | Jingoist | You'd think Blizz would understand 3-environment dev bynow |
| 10:28.10 | Miravlix | Ultima ONline had a nice idea they copied a live server to the test and updated the code |
| 10:28.10 | Jingoist | Dev, testing, live |
| 10:28.23 | Miravlix | Blizzards has tons of realms why not copy one to a test |
| 10:28.42 | m0oman | well their test server was basically a live server anyway. :p |
| 10:28.43 | Antari | It'd make patch day go a lot smoother if they did |
| 10:28.51 | Miravlix | Would test there backup software too |
| 10:28.53 | m0oman | players could spawn their own gold/stuff. |
| 10:33.38 | m0oman | i started with uo back then. way before t2a. i think the first 6 months of uo were the most fascinating mmo time i had. being a complete noob just figuring everything out and exploring. \o/ |
| 10:34.02 | Bleeter | with 7 million users, a very delayed expansion pack, hardware issues, and the rest, I think blizz do OK |
| 10:34.31 | m0oman | oh they're doing better than most other mmo people. looking at the problems other mmos had/have to fight with. |
| 10:34.38 | Bleeter | i'm 50/50, but having worked for an online gaming comany, I can udnerstand their position |
| 10:34.49 | Bleeter | user interests and what users think they need are the enemy |
| 10:35.11 | m0oman | and considering shadowbane having a daily maintenance of 45 mins in the middle of the day. |
| 10:35.12 | Bleeter | and I think they don't do a bad job at all of trying to meet it, sure sometimes they're bad, but we frequently overlook the good |
| 10:35.17 | Miravlix | I dont think there way of handling the addons is okay |
| 10:35.32 | Bleeter | I don't think wow was EVER designed to have addons |
| 10:35.34 | Miravlix | Its downright rude the way they deal with people that spend hours on making there game better |
| 10:35.46 | Bleeter | and it's like 2.x is the first release with addons seriously in mind |
| 10:35.50 | m0oman | i think contrary. they say it's unsupported, end of story. |
| 10:36.02 | Bleeter | havne't look hard enough, but wouldn't be suprised if re-written from the ground up to be sane towards addons |
| 10:36.31 | m0oman | but the lack of communication sure can be a major annoyance. |
| 10:36.45 | Bleeter | yeah, unsupported, then mods turn up in core (modified slightly, of course) |
| 10:38.00 | m0oman | aye. |
| 10:38.22 | m0oman | but i seriously hope the raid interface in 2+ will be any good. ctra is annoying the hell out of me. |
| 10:38.33 | m0oman | but i doubt blizz will do it better. |
| 10:38.48 | Bleeter | so it's not as if they dislike mod authors, sound more like not enough hours in the day to support mod authors, write the game, deal with customer ingame issues, create new content, etc. |
| 10:39.08 | Miravlix | I dont want support, its fine as is |
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| 10:39.14 | Miravlix | But I do want consideration |
| 10:39.16 | Bleeter | yeah, ain't seen it, but when I read the note on the MT frame i was 'orly, this should be fun' |
| 10:39.42 | Bleeter | the consideration is there, it's called the UI and Macro forum |
| 10:39.53 | Miravlix | What irks me is that showing us consideration wont hurt Blizzard or cost them money |
| 10:39.59 | m0oman | they certainly have too little folks to work for them. |
| 10:39.59 | m0oman | especially in europe they're not finding people and they're in addition not to keen on working on keeping their employees (that's vivendi though) |
| 10:40.01 | Miravlix | Its a simple policy change |
| 10:40.28 | m0oman | well, saying it's "unsupported" is an easy way out really. :p |
| 10:41.05 | Bleeter | and curses their australian branch |
| 10:41.38 | Bleeter | ring aussie wow support, they put you on hold for 30 mins at $3 per min, then tell you they can't help |
| 10:42.04 | Bleeter | so you ring US support, free of charge mind you, but get CD quality music blasted down the phoneline so it's unbearable |
| 10:42.19 | Bleeter | so you either hang up in annoyance, or... |
| 10:42.34 | Bleeter | stay in the queue to be told to ring vivendi australia |
| 10:43.38 | Miravlix | Ive had no issues with there email support |
| 10:43.51 | Miravlix | Even had a makr removed from my account when they made a mistake |
| 10:44.23 | m0oman | well, the original branch, vivendi france is the worst. it's ea, just cheaper and with a french attitude. very annoying, especially towards people they employ. |
| 10:44.56 | Bleeter | yeah, had minor dealings with them when I was working in France |
| 10:45.03 | m0oman | having to sue the company you work for for the money they promise you in the work contract ftl. |
| 10:45.12 | Bleeter | was the only thing that put a cloud on my entire feel for the coutnry |
| 10:45.40 | m0oman | my entire feel for the country has sunken into oblivion after working there for a few months. :p |
| 10:45.54 | m0oman | never again. |
| 10:46.10 | Bleeter | my expense account certainly offset the smell of marseille ;) |
| 10:46.42 | m0oman | eugh. marseille is the only town that's uglier than paris which i can think of. .p |
| 10:47.14 | Bleeter | heh, that's one reason I liked it. it actually felt like a really old city |
| 10:47.25 | m0oman | (and yes, i've been to dallas before) |
| 10:47.40 | Bleeter | you should visit Sydney sometime |
| 10:47.42 | Bleeter | that's ugly |
| 10:47.44 | m0oman | old because of the age or the dirt? :p |
| 10:47.50 | m0oman | never been to australia. |
| 10:47.55 | m0oman | only new zealand so far. |
| 10:48.25 | m0oman | and the people there didn't enjoy me constantly asking about the location of the bridge to ozziland. :P |
| 10:49.18 | Bleeter | did you make sheep jokes? |
| 10:49.32 | Bleeter | 'czo they hate that too |
| 10:50.03 | m0oman | well no, i didn't want them to let me starve. |
| 10:51.09 | Bleeter | yay for realm restarts... i wonder what was wrong with the banks |
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| 10:53.17 | m0oman | the realm my chars are on isn't even up yet. |
| 10:53.59 | m0oman | and all languages apart from english have disappeared from the realm list. |
| 10:54.29 | m0oman | i can just watch guild movies all morning then. \o/ |
| 10:58.51 | Bleeter | wow, it appears the UBRS Rend event, although resetting 'properly' (for loose definitions of that term), is thoroughly bugged now |
| 10:59.14 | Bleeter | But one Gyth came in and we had him halfwaydown...another wave of mobs came, and as we killed Gyth and Rend jumpedoff...another wave of mobs came again, so we had 4 dragonkin, 2humaoids, 6 whelps, and Rend to deal with...i sure hope this is a bug" |
| 10:59.23 | m0oman | those who wipe at rend deserve to have it not reset. |
| 10:59.29 | m0oman | :P |
| 10:59.37 | Bleeter | the mobs are coming in faster, and aggroing thru the doorway |
| 10:59.53 | m0oman | cool |
| 11:00.13 | Bleeter | the faster I can deal with, but thru a closed door? hehe |
| 11:00.34 | Bleeter | and the reset won't let you skin 2 gyth's (there's no suprise there), but screws with ML as well |
| 11:00.42 | Maxemus|Zzz | mornin :P |
| 11:00.58 | Bleeter | just another reason why I'm ignoring the beggar in my guild ;) |
| 11:01.00 | Bleeter | heya max |
| 11:01.47 | m0oman | our guild is dying of drain/tbc atm. going back to the old guild in january i guess. :/ |
| 11:01.54 | Maxemus | do u know if norgs fixed watcher/gatherer bugs i put up last nite? |
| 11:02.06 | norgs | most of em |
| 11:02.16 | Maxemus | oh hey norgs :) |
| 11:02.21 | Bleeter | pretty much the same here, m0oman |
| 11:02.21 | norgs | did you try out 2.99.0.0346? |
| 11:02.52 | m0oman | now i just have to find someone providing me with the missing splinters for my staff. having only half of them collected ftl. :< |
| 11:03.05 | m0oman | and i was looking forward to the portal. |
| 11:03.07 | Bleeter | personally, it's looking increasing like 2.x is based on old 1.9 code, given some of the bugs I'm seeing in the forums |
| 11:03.20 | Bleeter | ie, bugs that haven't been since since 1.9 |
| 11:03.28 | Maxemus | norgs: just dlin it now |
| 11:04.09 | m0oman | you never know their patchways. not even if you work for them. |
| 11:05.35 | Cera | mod sites are too hammered for me to even update my mod! |
| 11:05.44 | Bleeter | true |
| 11:05.55 | m0oman | xsan servers ftw. :P |
| 11:05.59 | Bleeter | i know for the company i used to work for, our patchways were.. as mad as our build system |
| 11:06.30 | Cera | I got it onto CG after about an hour, other sites won't load at all |
| 11:06.31 | m0oman | at least last.fm is still working. |
| 11:06.41 | Bleeter | customers would insist on escrow, and we were 'sure, not as if you need it, we can barely build the thing ourselves' |
| 11:06.50 | Bleeter | heh m0oman |
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| 11:07.24 | Bleeter | *you need/you can use |
| 11:07.53 | Cera | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/4747/spelltips/ |
| 11:08.06 | AnonUser3701 | hello everyone |
| 11:09.26 | m0oman | i should register my nick here to be able to reply to queries i guess. one sec. :p |
| 11:09.31 | AnonUser3701 | On the auctioneer website it said the current version of aucyioneer does not work with wow 2.0 . Is there a beta version that works with 2.0? |
| 11:09.54 | Bleeter | m0oman: heh |
| 11:10.07 | norgs | AnonUser3701: Hi :) |
| 11:10.22 | norgs | Yes there is. Check out the channel topic for the url |
| 11:10.23 | AnonUser3701 | :) |
| 11:10.50 | norgs | It is an Alpha version however |
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| 11:11.12 | norgs | which means there's a few bumps. We're fixing them as quick as we can |
| 11:11.37 | AnonUser3701 | so I should d/l and report glitches to help identify them? |
| 11:11.42 | norgs | Yep |
| 11:11.56 | AnonUser3701 | no problem |
| 11:11.59 | norgs | just report the full error message here in the channel |
| 11:12.05 | Fze | is it safe? |
| 11:12.32 | AnonUser3701 | only been using the program a week or so. surprised at how much I missed it when I logged in lasy night |
| 11:12.57 | norgs | Fze: Safe? Like is it gonna blow up your computer / steal all your gold and mail it to some anonymous gold seller? |
| 11:13.21 | Daardvark | lol |
| 11:13.28 | norgs | heheh... It's got some bugs, but nothing really serious. :) |
| 11:13.36 | Daardvark | i'm more interested in informant - how buggy is that right now? i was hopin to grab the alpha |
| 11:13.43 | Fze | guess i wont try it :p |
| 11:13.58 | AnonUser3701 | all software does when it is first implemented |
| 11:14.11 | norgs | I haven't used it recently (i'm only working on Gatherer at the moment), but I hear it's working |
| 11:14.11 | Daardvark | but i looked at alpha release advice and it said that generally, i should be able to debug problems myself - i can only do basic html, i have no idea what wow scripts are like |
| 11:14.39 | Daardvark | sweet ^_^ |
| 11:14.40 | norgs | Daardvark: reporting the problems here in channel is fine |
| 11:14.46 | Daardvark | how's gatherer coming along? |
| 11:14.47 | AnonUser3701 | that alpha is on the d/l page? |
| 11:15.02 | Fze | yeah you have to click that link on the bottom |
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| 11:15.16 | Bleeter | shh, i told you to be quite about that gold thing |
| 11:15.21 | norgs | yup, scroll down to the bottom and click on the directory link - that'll take you to the developer downloads page |
| 11:15.23 | AnonUser3701 | thanks. will give it a shot |
| 11:15.39 | AnonUser3701 | have a good day everyone |
| 11:15.45 | Daardvark | you too 370 |
| 11:15.47 | Daardvark | *3701 |
| 11:16.18 | Daardvark | hehe, calvin and hobbes are great |
| 11:17.08 | AnonUser5326 | hija peeps |
| 11:18.16 | norgs | Hi AnonUser5326 |
| 11:18.30 | robaire | Hello, I'm having a problem with stubby. When I go to disenchant something it says stubby has been blocked |
| 11:18.40 | AnonUser5326 | i was wondering if i could help speeding up the auctioneer release .. ? |
| 11:18.56 | AnonUser5326 | not a developer .. but a hardcore user |
| 11:19.09 | norgs | robaire: what version are you using? |
| 11:19.27 | robaire | alpha |
| 11:19.41 | norgs | do you know the exact version? |
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| 11:20.34 | TeRaStIoS | [TeRaStIoS] Kanei Ton Hlio Na Pethenei Apo To Kryo Kyries Kai Kyrioi Mprosta Sas To Thirio |
| 11:20.34 | robaire | 3.9.0.1104 |
| 11:20.50 | norgs | thanks matey... TeRaStIoS. |
| 11:22.34 | norgs | robaire: Did you download it as part of the Auctioneer pack? |
| 11:23.09 | norgs | accountant: what we need are people who can alpha test and diagnose problems in the lua. |
| 11:23.28 | robaire | yes, part of the pack |
| 11:23.49 | norgs | we welcome all testers of course, but those that can diagnose the problems themselves are quite handy :) |
| 11:24.20 | accountant | i see .. |
| 11:24.47 | norgs | robaire: and the pack was version 1117? |
| 11:25.15 | accountant | i do have the most updated data on balnazar (eu) Aliance side .. scanned for months about 3, 4 times a day |
| 11:25.55 | accountant | dunno if that is of any help |
| 11:26.00 | norgs | unfortunatly our conversion code is not working yet either so everyone's having to clear their data |
| 11:27.11 | accountant | hehe .. so i have to start all over.. good thing i sold all my banked stuff .. i expected problems with 2.0 |
| 11:27.58 | robaire | yes |
| 11:28.03 | norgs | well, the release version will have working conversion code, but it doesn't work in the current alpha |
| 11:28.27 | robaire | actually, pack was 1117 |
| 11:28.30 | robaire | I tried both |
| 11:28.35 | m0oman | just backup your db until the release version is out. :P |
| 11:28.44 | norgs | robaire: Ok, I think I know where the problem is. |
| 11:28.53 | accountant | i did .. ofc.. |
| 11:28.56 | norgs | I'll have a patch ready in a little bit |
| 11:29.42 | robaire | alright, thanks! |
| 11:31.56 | Daardvark | how do u learn how to fix problems yourself? do u have any tutorials? |
| 11:32.09 | accountant | well .. anyway, shame i can't be of any help .. but i like to thank you all for the great addon .. make's my life in wow a lot more easy! |
| 11:32.34 | Cera | norgs, both enchantrix and auctioneer cause the stubby block |
| 11:33.04 | robaire | norgs, please just say it in here when you put up the fix, I'll be in here. thanks. |
| 11:34.11 | Bleeter | norgs: did we roll a new alpha after I checked in enchantrix? |
| 11:34.20 | Bleeter | or are you waiting on something else? |
| 11:34.40 | norgs | Bleeter: What changes did you make to enchantrix? |
| 11:35.00 | Bleeter | updated the toc, fixed the button positioning, got the command handler working |
| 11:35.24 | Bleeter | not sure if it's technically 2.0.1 compatible now, but it loads and works |
| 11:35.29 | norgs | ok, did you fix the disenchant tracking? |
| 11:35.47 | Bleeter | nup, first I've heard of it... what's up with it? |
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| 11:35.59 | Bleeter | I asked MP what needed to be done, maybe he wasn't aware |
| 11:36.08 | Cera | well first off you can't DE anything :p |
| 11:36.17 | norgs | nah - it's ok... i have some changes to make to it... i've already got the code lying aroung |
| 11:36.44 | norgs | essentially the tracking used to work by hooking the click handler of the containeritems |
| 11:37.16 | norgs | however the containeritem_onclick function is the one actually casts the disenchant spell onclick |
| 11:37.19 | Bleeter | ah, i can kinda vaguely see the 'problem' there |
| 11:37.26 | norgs | so when we hook it, it can't cast |
| 11:37.37 | Bleeter | yup |
| 11:37.48 | Bleeter | wqouldn't know where to start looking, tho, glad you've got a head start |
| 11:37.50 | norgs | the only reason that we hook it is because we want a looksee at the item before it's gone |
| 11:38.09 | norgs | so we need to hook the preclick instead |
| 11:38.11 | Bleeter | yeah, so it can go into the stat data for de's |
| 11:38.53 | Bleeter | makes reaonable sense to me... i'll leave you with it, tho, it's getting late here, and my mind went days ago ;) |
| 11:39.00 | norgs | only problem is that there is no containeritem_preclick function to hook and about 50 bazillion different containeritems with all kinds of funky names lying about the pace |
| 11:39.22 | Bleeter | once it's reasonable as far as you're concerned, I'll look at fixing up localisation (if that's not something you have lying around) |
| 11:39.42 | Bleeter | or give you more of a hand tomorrow |
| 11:39.48 | norgs | so we hook the containeritem_onenter, then check to see if we've hooked "this", if not, we place the hook |
| 11:39.58 | norgs | and now i'll stop ranting :) |
| 11:40.17 | norgs | nite Bleeter |
| 11:40.31 | Bleeter | no, not going yet |
| 11:40.38 | Bleeter | still got a mug of hot chokkee to go ;) |
| 11:40.44 | norgs | oh ok then :P |
| 11:41.59 | Bleeter | goddamn it... patchnotes say hunter FD no longer dies at the end of the cast |
| 11:42.07 | Bleeter | I say my corpse disproves this |
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| 11:42.41 | Trela | You just stand back up! |
| 11:42.46 | Bleeter | no, you die |
| 11:42.49 | Bleeter | just like before |
| 11:43.12 | Slackster | anyone knows where all the gathere information are saved .. ? |
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| 11:46.47 | Bleeter | in the savedvarialbes folder |
| 11:48.57 | Slackster | thanks Bleeter |
| 11:49.58 | Slackster | ehh .. where do I find that folder :P |
| 11:51.11 | Slackster | found it :D |
| 11:53.11 | norgs | Ok, I'm gonna go home now |
| 11:53.42 | norgs | I'll work on that issue on the train and should have a fix ready in about an hour or so. |
| 11:54.12 | Bleeter | cya norgs, if I wake up with a nightmare I'll come check it out ;) |
| 11:54.15 | Bleeter | nn folks |
| 11:55.01 | robaire | thanks norgs |
| 11:58.47 | Slackster | Bleeter ... If I save Gatherer.lua somewhere else .. can i then restore all information in next gathere version .. :P ? |
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| 13:09.13 | m0oman | bah @ trying to get xml data into mysql. |
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| 13:16.33 | Arrow203 | How's it going :) |
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| 13:40.58 | rpz | m0oman: i'm planning to do that for part of my uni dissertation soon, going to use ruby :S |
| 13:41.14 | m0oman | poor bugger. |
| 13:41.19 | rpz | hehe |
| 13:41.30 | rpz | How are you trying to implement it? |
| 13:41.30 | m0oman | i'm having to deal with automatic imports of xml data into mysql, daily. |
| 13:41.37 | m0oman | about 300mb of data. |
| 13:41.42 | rpz | savage |
| 13:41.48 | m0oman | not sure. i have php5 and mysql4 at my hands. |
| 13:42.11 | rpz | theres probably some kind of parsing library you could use |
| 13:42.25 | m0oman | none i found that worked properly so far. |
| 13:43.12 | rpz | :S |
| 13:43.50 | m0oman | and it's pretty rare to find something that doesn't involve massive work by yourself, dealing with poopy xslt. |
| 13:44.27 | rpz | im hoping the rexml thing for ruby will make it nice and easy |
| 13:46.57 | m0oman | i don't have ruby available. :< |
| 13:47.08 | m0oman | currently trying navicat as external solution. |
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| 13:47.31 | m0oman | whoops. |
| 13:47.34 | rpz | I dont know what that is |
| 13:47.49 | rpz | but hope it goes well for you :) |
| 13:48.15 | m0oman | http://www.navicat.com/ |
| 13:48.20 | m0oman | has an xml import function. |
| 13:48.29 | m0oman | but it doesn't yet want to import. :< |
| 13:49.20 | rpz | It's not cheap is it! |
| 13:49.50 | m0oman | $99 |
| 13:49.59 | rpz | I suppose that's not so bad... |
| 13:50.05 | m0oman | but it's pretty cool. |
| 13:50.19 | rpz | Are you implementing in a work environment? |
| 13:50.36 | m0oman | yes. |
| 13:50.43 | rpz | Ah, was gonna suggest some piracy lol |
| 13:51.03 | m0oman | :p |
| 13:51.18 | m0oman | i rather avoid... umm... "backup" copies of software. |
| 13:52.54 | m0oman | the app is missing the good old mac look and feel though. dragging a table onto the desktop should put a dump of it right there. |
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| 14:12.02 | norgs|laptop | New release of Auctioneer is up |
| 14:12.05 | norgs|laptop | 1120 |
| 14:12.18 | norgs|laptop | solves Enchantrix/Stubby errors |
| 14:12.33 | DWKnight | just got it like seconds after you put it up |
| 14:13.00 | norgs|laptop | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:13.16 | DWKnight | or something like that |
| 14:13.32 | M4XiMuS | <3 |
| 14:13.43 | DWKnight | today is the day I go through my addons and actually update |
| 14:15.18 | bnovc | are addons completely unable to interface with the file system or use http,ftp,ssh,etc? no external access? |
| 14:15.33 | norgs|laptop | bnovc: That's correct |
| 14:15.56 | bnovc | norgs|laptop: does blizzard just serializes all the variables that you provide and then bring them back for you? |
| 14:16.40 | M4XiMuS | beancounter not functional yet? |
| 14:18.13 | bnovc | ah, i see so there is WTF/Account/<name>/SavedVariables |
| 14:18.59 | norgs|laptop | bnovc: Yes, we tell blizzard which variables we want to keep between sessions, and they just magically get saved off and reloaded next time |
| 14:19.25 | norgs|laptop | M4XiMuS: I've got no clue |
| 14:19.28 | bnovc | norgs|laptop: so could you hypothetically load a mod on the fly, make a variable, and unload it to get a file saving done for you? |
| 14:19.45 | norgs|laptop | I'm not running it at the moment |
| 14:20.03 | norgs|laptop | bnovc: can't unload |
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| 14:20.16 | bnovc | norgs|laptop: can you reload? |
| 14:20.29 | norgs|laptop | yes, but not without user input |
| 14:20.44 | M4XiMuS | addons screen says it (beancounter) is imcompatible w/the alpha version you just released :) |
| 14:20.55 | M4XiMuS | just fyi |
| 14:21.04 | M4XiMuS | everything else appears to be working |
| 14:21.09 | norgs|laptop | M4XiMuS: yeah, i didn't even bother installing it |
| 14:21.36 | M4XiMuS | ah |
| 14:21.37 | bnovc | norgs|laptop: so you can *kind of* get input from the internet by reloading? for example i could stream this irc channel into a lua file and then reload and have it show up in my WoW chat? |
| 14:21.42 | norgs|laptop | i'm just running auctioneer, informant, enchantrix, stubby and enhtooltip at the moment |
| 14:22.00 | norgs|laptop | bnovc: nope |
| 14:22.24 | bnovc | norgs|laptop: what am i missing |
| 14:23.26 | norgs|laptop | cause when you reload, the file would be saved, but blizzard don't reload the file to see what it's contents are, since theoretically it should be the same as what's already in memory... (at least that's what used to happen) |
| 14:23.53 | norgs|laptop | even if they did reload the file, it would be what they just wrote, anyhow |
| 14:24.13 | bnovc | and even with user input you can't unload? |
| 14:24.17 | norgs|laptop | (unless you can arrange it to write inbetween save and load) |
| 14:24.32 | bnovc | which is a very small time frame |
| 14:24.38 | norgs|laptop | no unloading |
| 14:24.53 | norgs|laptop | not if it's a load on demand addon |
| 14:25.01 | bnovc | so if you load a mod the variables from that mod are wasting away your memory the whole time? |
| 14:25.16 | norgs|laptop | then you could pause for a bit before demand loading the addon |
| 14:25.32 | norgs|laptop | bnovc: that's correct |
| 14:25.35 | bnovc | ah, i see... |
| 14:25.53 | bnovc | so whatever is streaming from irc could look file timestamps to change and write then |
| 14:26.44 | bnovc | norgs|laptop: sorry to bother you with this - i was just thinking i might attempt to make an irc client for WoW in the period where i don't want to play until the patch is stable/mods out |
| 14:26.49 | bnovc | couldn't find any good information online |
| 14:27.47 | norgs|laptop | yeah, basically blizzard have mad it as hard as possible for you to do stuff like that |
| 14:28.04 | bnovc | yea, and they have good reason to do it, but it just makes me want to find a way even more |
| 14:28.48 | bnovc | i was thinking even if i couldnt write during that pause, i could load mods with new names like every 15 seconds load a new mod for the new chat text, but that would be so memory intense |
| 14:29.42 | bnovc | norgs|laptop: does what i was mentioning seem possible |
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| 14:29.51 | bnovc | worth the time i would invest trying? |
| 14:31.13 | norgs|laptop | not really... reloading the UI is a ver painful process |
| 14:31.35 | norgs|laptop | better off investing in a second display for your computer |
| 14:31.56 | bnovc | norgs|laptop: hah i have another computer next to me, i was just going to do it for fun |
| 14:32.22 | norgs|laptop | heheh - well, if you want to try :) |
| 14:32.46 | bnovc | norgs|laptop: and that would be a large proof of concept - because then i could do almost anything with the internet |
| 14:32.58 | bnovc | norgs|laptop: could make an aim client, get the weather, etc. :) |
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| 14:33.21 | starlon | thought you said "change the weather" for a second there |
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| 14:33.44 | Yid | hi |
| 14:33.52 | Crushar | arrg don't know if I can go two weeks without my auctioneer... =( |
| 14:33.59 | bnovc | starlon: that'll be v3 |
| 14:34.02 | Yid | I know how you feel =] |
| 14:34.10 | starlon | heh |
| 14:34.19 | Yid | same thing for gatherer ... it's my best friend |
| 14:34.25 | norgs|laptop | So go and test out the alpha's |
| 14:34.36 | Crushar | where are the alpha downloads? |
| 14:34.38 | bnovc | better get going before i get in trouble with my gf :P thanks for the info norgs|laptop |
| 14:34.39 | Yid | that's what I came to ask about, actually |
| 14:34.43 | bnovc | Crushar: /topic |
| 14:34.57 | Yid | do you have a svn:: set up or? |
| 14:35.20 | norgs|laptop | Alpha Auctioneer+Enchantrix+Informant are almost release quality, bar a few minor bugs. |
| 14:36.08 | Crushar | norgs I'm confused... I don't see any alpha download? |
| 14:36.11 | norgs|laptop | You can just go to the respective download pages and then scroll to the bottom and click the appropriate directory to get to the developer downloads |
| 14:36.19 | Crushar | maybe I'm just blind as allways |
| 14:36.21 | Yid | btw, since it's my first time here, I must give kudos for a couple of very excellent apps |
| 14:36.23 | Crushar | ahh thanks ;) |
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| 14:37.00 | Yid | how is lua programming? I was looking over some basic syntax and it seems pretty straightforward |
| 14:37.11 | norgs|laptop | Gatherer is a lot less functional than Auctioneer at the moment |
| 14:37.32 | Yid | too early to test? |
| 14:37.40 | norgs|laptop | it still records gathers and shows them on the minimap, but that's about it |
| 14:37.53 | Crushar | enough to satisfy me |
| 14:37.58 | Crushar | lol |
| 14:38.03 | norgs|laptop | and it won't work with your old data yet either :) |
| 14:38.12 | Crushar | doh... |
| 14:38.15 | Yid | bummer |
| 14:38.21 | norgs|laptop | heh - yeah |
| 14:38.45 | Yid | but since the old data is essentially of no use anyway ... |
| 14:38.55 | norgs|laptop | it's ok to play with for now though |
| 14:39.05 | norgs|laptop | you get to see a few new cool things about it |
| 14:39.05 | Yid | cool |
| 14:39.27 | norgs|laptop | like the new tooltips and the new minimap display |
| 14:39.30 | Yid | are you using bug tracking? how would you like them to be reported? |
| 14:39.39 | norgs|laptop | just post in here |
| 14:39.45 | Yid | ok |
| 14:40.30 | Yid | are you doing nightly builds? should I update daily? |
| 14:40.35 | Crushar | Got the alpha now, well here goes nothing... |
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| 14:42.28 | norgs|laptop | We're doing releases everytime we fix bugs and have a functioning codebase |
| 14:42.59 | Yid | ok, I guess I'll just have to watch the version numbers |
| 14:43.16 | Yid | anything have to be wiped before the install? |
| 14:44.16 | norgs|laptop | I'd backup your Auctioneer.lua and Gatherer.lua out of the way first |
| 14:44.25 | Yid | ok |
| 14:45.04 | Crushar | Hmm in the auctioneer the Broker function does not work yet? |
| 14:47.07 | norgs|laptop | Crushar: you sure? what exactly are you doing (and have you done a scan yet) |
| 14:47.48 | Crushar | Well I have all of my old auctioneer scans and data... it seems to recognize that all |
| 14:48.09 | norgs|laptop | you'll need to do a new scan |
| 14:48.14 | Crushar | ahh ok |
| 14:48.15 | Crushar | thanks ;) |
| 14:48.18 | norgs|laptop | before broker will work |
| 14:48.30 | norgs|laptop | (cause all those auctions have expired) |
| 14:48.36 | Crushar | never would have guessed |
| 14:48.46 | norgs|laptop | yeah, it's been more than 24 hours :p |
| 14:49.11 | Crushar | with the extra, what? 6 hours of downtime? |
| 14:49.18 | norgs|laptop | heheh |
| 14:50.59 | bnovc | norgs|laptop: were you meaning you have to do ReloadUI() then LoadAddon() to get that pause? |
| 14:51.11 | norgs|laptop | Yeah. |
| 14:51.32 | bnovc | oh... |
| 14:51.37 | bnovc | that would be so incredibly laggy |
| 14:51.42 | norgs|laptop | so you'd have to have a control addon (which does the reload, pause and load) and then the data addon |
| 14:52.10 | norgs|laptop | it'd be nasty, that's for sure |
| 14:52.19 | bnovc | that would mean every time you get new information the screen probably freezes for a few seconds |
| 14:52.50 | bnovc | i'm going to assume that ConsoleExec("comand") is blocked in WoW |
| 14:53.22 | norgs|laptop | ah, i got no clue |
| 14:53.36 | bnovc | if they went to the trouble to block file io it would be stupid to allow that |
| 14:53.38 | norgs|laptop | i'd presume so, but i'd also not like to say |
| 14:54.16 | bnovc | i was thinking maybe i could run wow as user X that doesnt have write permissions to SavedVariables/addon.lua then run file updater script as user Y who does, then when i reload it wouldnt save over it?! |
| 14:54.36 | norgs|laptop | that's possible |
| 14:55.00 | norgs|laptop | (assuming wow actually bothers to reload the file for a reloadui |
| 14:55.04 | norgs|laptop | ) |
| 14:55.46 | bnovc | UI UIParentLoadAddOn("AddOnName") - Loads or Reloads the specified AddOn, and pops up an error message if it fails to load for any reason. |
| 14:55.49 | bnovc | ^ maybe? |
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| 14:59.34 | norgs|laptop | nite bnovc |
| 15:03.00 | Maxemus | lo guys |
| 15:03.17 | Maxemus | now us EU guys have the troubles the US guys had yesterday |
| 15:04.00 | norgs|laptop | hehe |
| 15:04.17 | Maxemus | and typically my mains realm is still dead :) |
| 15:04.39 | Crushar | lol |
| 15:04.43 | Crushar | payback :-p |
| 15:04.51 | Maxemus | back to the beta for me :) |
| 15:08.00 | Miravlix | 30 chars talent wiped and I didn't write down there specs |
| 15:13.44 | Crushar | got a bug for you to squash... when I try to auction a red linen bag in the post auctions section it says: "Usage:PickupContaineritem(index,slot) |
| 15:16.26 | Crushar | but it does work in the normal auction post... |
| 15:16.59 | Miravlix | there isno problems |
| 15:17.40 | Crushar | ? |
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| 15:19.43 | Pioneer11 | Good Morning |
| 15:19.59 | Pioneer11 | Anyone knows where gatherer add on is available for the new wow patch? |
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| 15:21.01 | Miravlix | There was no wow patch, everything is the same old working wow. |
| 15:21.04 | Crushar | it is... but all it does at the moment is add the icons to the map, nothing else |
| 15:21.30 | Crushar | there is a patch lol |
| 15:21.37 | Pioneer11 | Strange... I downloaded the gatherer add on from curse-gamining and now it says it is incompatible |
| 15:21.41 | Miravlix | Nope, there is no problems |
| 15:21.45 | Miravlix | All works fine. |
| 15:21.49 | Crushar | lol what dark age do you live in |
| 15:22.11 | Pioneer11 | So, from which website do you recomend to download again the gatherer add on? |
| 15:22.13 | Miravlix | Blizzard didnt pull the all time biggest rape on addon developers, nope nope nope |
| 15:22.14 | Crushar | go to www.worldofwarcraft.com and see for yourself |
| 15:22.17 | Miravlix | It doesn't exist |
| 15:22.21 | Miravlix | so it cant harm me |
| 15:22.23 | Crushar | lol |
| 15:22.25 | Crushar | oooh ok |
| 15:22.41 | Crushar | *gives miravlix a cookie* keep thinking that |
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| 15:23.40 | Miravlix | I dont have around 300-400 talent points I need to resue. nope nope nope |
| 15:25.42 | M4XiMuS | norgs... i ran a scan... and now when i search for items on the AH i'm getting a "AucSnapshotDB.lua:1069:attempt to compare number with string" error |
| 15:26.08 | M4XiMuS | and it just stalls on "searching for items..." |
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| 15:27.38 | M4XiMuS | after reloading wow... and going back to the AH... it'll find items now... but the same error window comes up after it finds items |
| 15:28.17 | Crushar | I got a similar error when doing a search... it says "AucSnapshotDB.lua:1069:attempt to compare nil with string" |
| 15:28.39 | dgee | I also found that after a scanning I can't look at auction items |
| 15:29.03 | M4XiMuS | if you reload wow you can |
| 15:29.05 | M4XiMuS | BUT |
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| 15:29.14 | M4XiMuS | the same error comes up after the search. |
| 15:29.21 | Crushar | I did reload... |
| 15:29.22 | dgee | Plus, it only finds 43 items to scan each time |
| 15:29.43 | Crushar | hmm my scan worked fine and fount 4990 or so |
| 15:29.52 | M4XiMuS | ya my scan was fine as well |
| 15:30.13 | dgee | sorry, i ment 43 pages |
| 15:30.25 | Crushar | maybe there are only 43 pages of auctions? |
| 15:30.34 | Crushar | my realm that is super overcrowded only had 100 |
| 15:31.05 | M4XiMuS | most auctions expired... |
| 15:31.16 | M4XiMuS | not a lot have been put back up yet |
| 15:31.20 | M4XiMuS | not to normal levels anyways |
| 15:31.34 | dgee | my realm normally has arouind 100-160 pages |
| 15:31.50 | norgs|laptop | did you guys clean out your existing db's or levt your old sv files in there? |
| 15:31.59 | M4XiMuS | left mine |
| 15:32.13 | norgs|laptop | i think that may be the problem |
| 15:32.18 | moo390man | we only have 50-60 pages normally. |
| 15:32.21 | dgee | i cleaned mine out |
| 15:32.39 | M4XiMuS | so delete your saved variables files? |
| 15:32.50 | Crushar | I do believe I deleted mine? |
| 15:32.56 | norgs|laptop | dgee: you getting the AucSnapshotDB.lua:1069 error too? |
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| 15:34.01 | norgs|laptop | so ok... you do a scan, then what do you search for? |
| 15:34.17 | M4XiMuS | well, in this case i'm searching for all daggers |
| 15:34.26 | M4XiMuS | so... weapons -> daggers -> search button |
| 15:34.28 | norgs|laptop | ok, never mind |
| 15:34.29 | M4XiMuS | no criteria |
| 15:34.31 | dgee | i use the broker command |
| 15:34.38 | norgs|laptop | i've got the error now |
| 15:34.43 | norgs|laptop | that's all i need |
| 15:35.25 | M4XiMuS | what/how is broker used :x |
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| 15:36.30 | dgee | its when i use the broker, it stays on searching fir items and shows the item |
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| 15:36.45 | Crushar | once you have completed an AH scan you type /auctioneer broker # |
| 15:36.52 | M4XiMuS | ya i see it now |
| 15:36.58 | M4XiMuS | helps if i rtfa |
| 15:36.59 | Crushar | the # is the amount of silver profit you want to make off of that item |
| 15:37.01 | M4XiMuS | on the how-to |
| 15:37.24 | dgee | and if you hold ALT and left click on a linked item, it should load in the AH window |
| 15:37.31 | Miravlix | You cant type /auc stuff |
| 15:37.34 | Miravlix | Its broken |
| 15:38.26 | M4XiMuS | ..... |
| 15:38.36 | M4XiMuS | topic |
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| 15:40.43 | M4XiMuS | norgs |
| 15:40.45 | M4XiMuS | another note |
| 15:41.05 | M4XiMuS | if i search for something specifically... i don't get the error |
| 15:41.36 | M4XiMuS | only when the search box is left blank and you search an entire category does the AucSnapshotDB.lau error come up. |
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| 15:42.11 | AnonUser7829 | is there an Auctioneer 2.0 beta that I can download now? |
| 15:42.26 | dgee | read the topic |
| 15:42.43 | AnonUser7829 | lol |
| 15:42.44 | AnonUser7829 | ty |
| 15:42.50 | AnonUser7829 | just woke up |
| 15:44.39 | fritt | wow, just am doing my first scan of the morning and there's less than half the normally posted auctions going on |
| 15:44.55 | AnonUser7829 | lol |
| 15:45.01 | fritt | without auctioneer people are lost! |
| 15:45.21 | AnonUser7829 | they dont know what to price things at :P |
| 15:45.46 | dgee | i have scanning now everytime cause a terface\AddOns\Auctioneer\Database\AucSnapshotDB.lua:1069: attempt to compare nil with string... even with /reload ui |
| 15:46.29 | M4XiMuS | ya he's aware of it dgee |
| 15:46.47 | dgee | kk |
| 15:47.11 | dgee | im just being through |
| 15:53.01 | fritt | okay, just ran scan and search and no errors at all, only onther mod i'm running atm is ctmod |
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| 15:55.56 | Crushar | ctmod has a 2.0 out allready? |
| 15:57.07 | norgs|laptop | ok... fixed the aucsnapshot bug - releasing new version now... one sec. |
| 15:57.31 | Crushar | :) |
| 15:57.36 | Crushar | yay! hurrah for norgs |
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| 15:58.19 | norgs|laptop | it's days like today where i'm glad i automated the build process |
| 15:58.26 | norgs|laptop | ok, it's done. |
| 15:58.36 | norgs|laptop | 1121 |
| 15:59.19 | Crushar | lol |
| 16:00.08 | M4XiMuS | :D |
| 16:00.11 | M4XiMuS | <3 |
| 16:00.27 | Crushar | +D |
| 16:00.40 | M4XiMuS | offtopic question... |
| 16:01.01 | M4XiMuS | is there any way to lock/unlock frames now w/ctmod 2.0? |
| 16:01.13 | norgs|laptop | Now i just gotta work out where this bug is: "Error: Usage: PickupContainerItem(index, slot)" |
| 16:01.14 | M4XiMuS | i don't see it unless i'm overlooking something |
| 16:01.16 | Miravlix | To hell with it all |
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| 16:01.22 | Miravlix | I cant even make a macro /charge |
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| 16:01.31 | fritt | sry, was afk, yea, got it late last night, ctmod.net |
| 16:01.46 | norgs|laptop | Miravlix: /cast Charge ? |
| 16:01.49 | Crushar | yep just downloaded it |
| 16:02.02 | robaire | hey, was just wondering if there was a way to get rid of the Link: ###### |
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| 16:02.18 | Miravlix | norgs: the point is to limit the charge |
| 16:02.24 | Miravlix | So it doesnt do it all the time |
| 16:02.29 | Miravlix | But thats INTELIGENCE |
| 16:02.32 | Miravlix | To cast emotes |
| 16:02.35 | Miravlix | ffs |
| 16:02.52 | AnonUser6668 | I'm looking to test an alpha version for auctioneer for the 2.0 patch |
| 16:03.06 | AnonUser6668 | is 4.0 going to be fist to be compatible? |
| 16:03.11 | norgs|laptop | robaire: yeah /auc show-link off |
| 16:03.28 | norgs|laptop | hmm |
| 16:03.32 | norgs|laptop | or not... |
| 16:04.13 | AnonUser6668 | will 3.9 load? |
| 16:04.19 | norgs|laptop | ok, so that seems to be broken... the answer is no |
| 16:04.26 | AnonUser6668 | kk |
| 16:04.33 | norgs|laptop | AnonUser6668: yes |
| 16:04.38 | norgs|laptop | it works fine |
| 16:04.43 | AnonUser6668 | great =) |
| 16:04.44 | norgs|laptop | all but a few bugs |
| 16:04.49 | AnonUser6668 | sweet! |
| 16:04.51 | AnonUser6668 | thks |
| 16:05.04 | norgs|laptop | report any bugs you find back here |
| 16:05.21 | norgs|laptop | and enjoy the auctioneer-free marketplace while it lasts |
| 16:05.33 | AnonUser6668 | i sure will =) |
| 16:05.42 | fritt | heh, sweet deals on herbs yep yep |
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| 16:13.50 | dgee | hey norgs, i got an long error message after a scan, using the newest you just released |
| 16:14.15 | dgee | want the chat log dump? |
| 16:14.34 | norgs|laptop | You should install improved error frame... one sec |
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| 16:17.30 | dgee | I do have it installed, I got it with the newest chronos pack |
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| 16:18.09 | AnonUser8023 | hallo ich suche auctioneer für die aktuelle wow version die alte version geht nicht mehr |
| 16:18.15 | norgs|laptop | ok, so click that little ! on you minimap and a box pops up, right? |
| 16:18.26 | norgs|laptop | just copy and paste from there |
| 16:18.48 | dgee | i normally get that for errors, but did not on this error... it wrote straight to chat log |
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| 16:19.07 | norgs|laptop | hmm - weird |
| 16:19.15 | dgee | thats what i thought |
| 16:19.21 | norgs|laptop | so what was the gist of it? |
| 16:19.38 | dgee | i can post the dump to a pm |
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| 16:19.50 | norgs|laptop | kk |
| 16:20.30 | dgee | looks like it has to do with enchantrix |
| 16:21.10 | Dixey | I don't know if auctioneer is connected, but have a corrupt file now on machine that the repair utility can't fix. again - may not be auctioneer problem, but it was the only thing different than the other machine i have running wow |
| 16:22.44 | dgee | dixey pm me |
| 16:23.13 | norgs|laptop | It's happened to several people I know, and no, I don't believe it has to do with auctioneer, as auctioneer hasn't been present in all the cases. |
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| 16:24.10 | norgs|laptop | dgee - were you going to send that to me? |
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| 16:24.38 | dgee | i sent a PM |
| 16:24.41 | dgee | on here |
| 16:24.59 | norgs|laptop | ahh - no... it doesn't let you unless you're registered. |
| 16:25.12 | norgs|laptop | paste it here http://norganna.pastey.net/ |
| 16:25.15 | dgee | ok |
| 16:25.22 | dgee | what me to dump it n here |
| 16:25.22 | norgs|laptop | then post back the pastey url |
| 16:25.59 | norgs|laptop | no, go to the pastey site and pop it into the text box, submit and then it will give you a url |
| 16:26.02 | norgs|laptop | post that here |
| 16:26.08 | dgee | Error occured while running hooks for: EnhTooltip.AddTooltip Interface\AddOns\Informant\Informant.lua:155: attempt to index global 'baseSplit' (a nil value) Call Chain: (tail call): ?Interface\AddOns\EnhTooltip\Tooltip.lua:1093: in function <Interface\AddOns\EnhTooltip\Tooltip.lua:1054>(tail call): ?[C]: in function `pcall'Interface\AddOns\Stubby\Stubby.lua:272: in function <Interface\AddOns\Stubby\Stubby.lua:250>(tail call): ?Interface\FrameXML\ |
| 16:26.31 | dgee | i got it after a scanning |
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| 16:32.06 | norgs|laptop | Ok, new informant and auctioneer fixes coming down the pipeline. Fixes dgee's last bug and the dragging items into the post auctions tab bug. |
| 16:32.32 | norgs|laptop | it will be 1122, up in a few seconds |
| 16:32.43 | Deadzero | nice... |
| 16:33.01 | samwise | i just downloaded 1122 ;-) |
| 16:33.06 | norgs|laptop | and now i must to bed :P |
| 16:33.18 | samwise | poor norgs ;-) |
| 16:33.21 | Deadzero | night norgs |
| 16:33.33 | norgs|laptop | it's almost time for MP to come back online anyhow :) |
| 16:33.49 | M4XiMuS | tyvm norgs |
| 16:34.01 | Deadzero | one last thing to inform you on |
| 16:34.05 | samwise | so we talk to MP about bugs ;-) good night |
| 16:34.16 | Deadzero | kk |
| 16:34.29 | Crushar | thanks so much norgs... I owe you much :) |
| 16:34.50 | norgs|laptop | BTW: MentalPower, when you read this... Fantastic job with the Bid/Buyout prompting... I love it. |
| 16:34.50 | Deadzero | we all do |
| 16:35.50 | norgs|laptop | Ok, nite everyone |
| 16:36.03 | samwise | cu |
| 16:36.25 | Crushar | cya |
| 16:37.51 | norgs|laptop | and now i'm gone.... |
| 16:38.11 | Deadzero | lol |
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| 16:50.42 | AnonUser7529 | I am having problems searching auctions after a scan. |
| 16:50.58 | AnonUser7529 | Have error message where do i post |
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| 16:51.45 | VIPeace | yo |
| 16:52.24 | VIPeace | so auctioneer doesnt work 4 wowpatch 2. :) |
| 16:52.36 | M4XiMuS | topic |
| 16:52.38 | M4XiMuS | alpha works. |
| 16:52.42 | Deadzero | kinda |
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| 16:53.05 | Deadzero | still little buggy for now |
| 16:53.21 | VIPeace | well |
| 16:53.38 | VIPeace | im stuck in loading char screen |
| 16:53.42 | VIPeace | cant even log in |
| 16:53.48 | VIPeace | 2sad |
| 16:53.50 | Deadzero | i had that prob last night |
| 16:54.03 | Deadzero | just wait an hour and relogin then |
| 16:54.06 | VIPeace | i had it never before |
| 16:54.22 | VIPeace | hope so |
| 16:54.31 | VIPeace | well i really enjoy auctioneer so |
| 16:54.35 | Deadzero | is it locked at the toon selection sreen? |
| 16:54.39 | Deadzero | screen |
| 16:54.42 | VIPeace | feel free to use me for testing or whatever |
| 16:54.57 | VIPeace | its locked after |
| 16:55.03 | VIPeace | choosing realm press enter |
| 16:55.15 | Deadzero | http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl for newest alpha |
| 16:55.18 | VIPeace | then it forwards to server and button Loading char shows up |
| 16:55.20 | AnonUser7529 | Interface\addons\auctioneer\Aucfilter.lua:120:attempt to index local 'itemInfo' (a nil value) |
| 16:55.23 | VIPeace | there it stops |
| 16:55.51 | AnonUser7529 | I get that message when i attempt to search auctions after a scan |
| 16:56.25 | Deadzero | did you update to the newest after 11am EST? |
| 16:56.36 | samwise | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:56.44 | AnonUser7529 | 1122?? |
| 16:56.51 | samwise | yes |
| 16:56.55 | AnonUser7529 | yeah |
| 16:57.01 | Deadzero | yes |
| 16:57.21 | VIPeace | btw what kind of influecne was doen from blizz that auctioneer doesnt work? |
| 16:57.26 | Deadzero | remember ppl this is an alpha, not a final release |
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| 16:58.42 | Deadzero | http://norganna.org/discuss/discussion/2928 |
| 17:01.19 | Crushar | yep |
| 17:01.30 | Crushar | still have some bugs to squash... but it works well for the most part |
| 17:01.54 | samwise | my problems are more with gatherer ;-) |
| 17:02.29 | VIPeace | gatherer is now useless? |
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| 17:02.41 | VIPeace | blizz added auto pickup all |
| 17:03.07 | AnonUser7552 | So are the alpha versions 2.0 Compatible I take? |
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| 17:03.35 | VIPeace | with some troubleshooting as far as i am reading here |
| 17:03.43 | VIPeace | but blizz improved |
| 17:03.54 | VIPeace | many addosn are now not required due already existing in blizz |
| 17:04.01 | AnonUser7552 | It's like I feel naked without these couple of mods |
| 17:04.17 | rpz | is there a working titan/fubar yet? |
| 17:04.18 | AnonUser7552 | They don't have anything close to gatherer though do they? |
| 17:04.19 | VIPeace | gatherer, selfbuff, selfheal |
| 17:04.26 | VIPeace | no clue |
| 17:04.32 | AnonUser7552 | Yes, working versions of both Titan and fubar |
| 17:04.33 | VIPeace | just readed and activated it hehe |
| 17:04.40 | VIPeace | was only 10 min after server up in |
| 17:04.47 | VIPeace | tru true adds were nice |
| 17:05.03 | VIPeace | auctioner items and pick up atlas rocked |
| 17:05.07 | AnonUser7552 | Though alot of the titan addons are 2.0 friendly yet |
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| 17:05.27 | rpz | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.53 | TseTse | i like fu |
| 17:06.04 | TseTse | doesnt have all the toys tho |
| 17:06.06 | rpz | i only used titan but heard fu was possibly better |
| 17:06.15 | TseTse | it's more streamlined, simple |
| 17:06.20 | rpz | toys? I want exp/hr |
| 17:06.23 | VIPeace | i only use auctioner and enxchantrix |
| 17:06.24 | rpz | co-ords |
| 17:06.25 | euroboy | is there actually an alpha of auctioneer up? |
| 17:06.25 | rpz | and not much else |
| 17:06.26 | VIPeace | and atlas |
| 17:06.28 | VIPeace | ^^ |
| 17:06.34 | VIPeace | it is |
| 17:06.38 | VIPeace | read in topic |
| 17:06.51 | euroboy | i did, and i'm there, but i haven't seen anything but 3.8 and 3.9 under the dev folders |
| 17:06.57 | euroboy | but that doesn't mean much ;) |
| 17:07.24 | euroboy | ah.. labelled by colors. |
| 17:07.56 | euroboy | How is 3.9a working under the 2.1 patch? |
| 17:08.11 | gheydax420 | I like it |
| 17:08.16 | TseTse | ive been doing nothing but pvp so i havent been testing much =( |
| 17:08.38 | euroboy | I guess it can't be anymore broken than nothing at all :D |
| 17:08.42 | samwise | euro , try the 1122 release from svn fixed some more bugs then the current zip-file ;-) |
| 17:08.47 | euroboy | will do, sam |
| 17:09.29 | rpz | auctioneerpack-3.9.0.1122.zip <- is that what i need? |
| 17:09.30 | Crushar | the newest build seems to be working well |
| 17:09.33 | Crushar | yes |
| 17:09.35 | Crushar | 1122 |
| 17:09.57 | rpz | thanks |
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| 17:13.17 | Deadzero | when using the broker command, it stil does not let you link to AH items |
| 17:14.38 | Crushar | what do you mean? |
| 17:14.51 | Deadzero | you use the broker? |
| 17:15.16 | Crushar | yes I do all of the time |
| 17:15.46 | Deadzero | ok |
| 17:15.59 | Deadzero | when the linked names show in chat log |
| 17:16.26 | Deadzero | do you use the the ALT left click on them to load the in AH window? |
| 17:16.49 | Deadzero | i did all the time and it still does not work |
| 17:17.00 | Crushar | umm I never really messed with that... try shift clicking it? |
| 17:20.22 | Deadzero | shift-click does not work for that, the whole thing of doing the Alt-Click is to have it load from broker info, then make AH search for that item |
| 17:21.28 | Deadzero | it is a normal in game function that is being blocked by a auctioneer error.. it works fine, if you /reload ui |
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| 17:22.52 | AnonUser9935 | i miss auctioneer :o |
| 17:22.53 | Deadzero | well that is why you should help out all you can |
| 17:22.53 | AnonUser9935 | nah, im a leecher |
| 17:24.28 | euroboy | at least he's honest. |
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| 17:26.26 | samwise | norg fixed a lot today, and if MP comes back i'll ask him to fix some more |
| 17:26.32 | AnonUser7529 | still can't use the search auction button but command lines seem to work fine |
| 17:27.05 | AnonUser7529 | Just have to remember the command lines |
| 17:27.23 | euroboy | search auction button works for me |
| 17:27.37 | AnonUser7529 | ???? GRRRR |
| 17:27.44 | euroboy | well, the BUTTON works, let me see if the returned data is valid |
| 17:28.14 | euroboy | yeah i just did a buyout from the search auctions results. |
| 17:28.31 | AnonUser7529 | I'm getting error message about the AucFilter.lus |
| 17:28.34 | AnonUser7529 | lea |
| 17:28.38 | AnonUser7529 | lua |
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| 17:29.21 | AnonUser7529 | Which one you using Euro |
| 17:30.49 | euroboy | auctioneerpack from here http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/AuctioneerComplete/auctioneerpack-3.9.0.1122.zip |
| 17:31.24 | euroboy | i'm not sure whether this is the actual svn version referred to by samwise, but i couldn't find any info on direct svn checkouts and i'm supposed to b eworking anyway ;d |
| 17:31.49 | AnonUser7529 | That's the one i am using too |
| 17:32.03 | AnonUser7529 | U using old DB |
| 17:32.28 | euroboy | I think so. It just converted on the way in on firstrun |
| 17:32.42 | euroboy | suffice it to say i didn't do anything special to get rid of the old DB |
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| 17:35.34 | euroboy | and in case it matters, I don't have any other addons running right now. everything else is unloaded/incompat |
| 17:36.17 | Chipokatis | Well i'm jealous urs working and mine is not |
| 17:37.00 | euroboy | Yeah that's pretty lame. I'm sure it will be sorted. |
| 17:37.28 | Chipokatis | at least it is not a total washout for me |
| 17:38.51 | TseTse | wow, the nurfed that was posted last night is borked |
| 17:39.07 | euroboy | ?? |
| 17:39.36 | TseTse | was working fine all through beta and now the version posted at 8pm is totally nonfunctional |
| 17:42.53 | euroboy | :/ |
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| 17:49.31 | moo390man | server shutdown in 14 minutes. |
| 17:49.36 | moo390man | server shutdown in 5 minutes. |
| 17:49.43 | moo390man | they must have installed pentiums! |
| 17:49.54 | TseTse | lol |
| 17:51.04 | samwise | they have a hotfix , servers go down one group after the other |
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| 17:55.21 | moo390man | hopefully they fix the enchants. |
| 17:55.22 | moo390man | and druids. |
| 17:55.25 | moo390man | and arenas. |
| 17:55.40 | Chipokatis | Think i fixed my problem. Beancounter was not compatible so I changed the toc to update it. |
| 17:55.49 | TseTse | and the vanishing pet bar that's been reported in beta 100000s of times for 2 months |
| 17:55.53 | moo390man | and finally change the guild interface (which i doubt will happen since blizzard has never been keen on upgrading guild functinoality) |
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| 18:01.46 | moo390man | can watch more movies while the server is down. \o/ |
| 18:01.46 | moo390man | http://www.monster-guild.com/movies/ ftw! |
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| 18:06.35 | AnonUser9093 | can anyone give me a link to directions on how to convert my old scanned ah info so I don't lose it when I convert my mods to BTS 2.0? |
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| 18:24.34 | MentalPower | morning! |
| 18:25.07 | samwise | good morning mental |
| 18:25.28 | samwise | the svn version of itemizer is it 2.0 compatible? |
| 18:26.15 | MentalPower | nop |
| 18:26.21 | MentalPower | on ice ATM |
| 18:26.40 | samwise | there are more things to fix i know ;-) |
| 18:26.52 | MentalPower | :) |
| 18:26.59 | samwise | ll incompatible itemsync too itemizer as well..... |
| 18:27.19 | samwise | you can't help with gatherer i suppose? |
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| 18:31.01 | bev | hi MentalPower! |
| 18:31.04 | bev | updates plz |
| 18:31.41 | MentalPower | samwise: I can, but I'd rather the experts on the material (norgs and Esamynn) do the updates |
| 18:31.53 | MentalPower | bev: looking thru the issues ATM |
| 18:32.19 | samwise | norgs sleeping, do you know when esamynn comes back? ;-) |
| 18:33.17 | MentalPower | Esamynn is busy with schoolwork, same as I, just that I have less schoolwork and can squeeze coding in between it |
| 18:33.53 | aiki | so how stable are the dev releases of auctioneer and gatherer? |
| 18:34.06 | samwise | thank you so much mental for doing this |
| 18:34.21 | MentalPower | auctioneer is more stable than gatherer |
| 18:34.23 | hexed | yeah finals suck :/ |
| 18:34.37 | samwise | gatherer is not usable for me ;) |
| 18:35.08 | aiki | where does gatherer store it's data so i can back it before i install the dev release? |
| 18:35.54 | samwise | wow\wtf\account\name\savedvars\gatherer.lua if i remember correctly |
| 18:36.40 | MentalPower | yup |
| 18:36.40 | aiki | yeah i found it lol |
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| 18:37.30 | aiki | i can't survive without auctioneer and gatherer lol |
| 18:37.34 | aiki | thanks for these great mods |
| 18:38.03 | aiki | and damn blizzard for breaking them! |
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| 18:58.48 | Alexandri | Hi |
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| 19:12.46 | AnonUser3809 | Hey all had a thought. Can I add a feature(or is there a feature in auctioneer) that let's me scan for a list of item x under a certain price buyout or bid? |
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| 19:16.52 | Alexandri | I was wondering, are you fine people of auctioneer still looking for a Dutch localisation? |
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| 19:27.07 | Chipokatis | Anyone else having auctioneer error when opening mailbox |
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| 19:32.19 | VIPeace | rere |
| 19:32.40 | VIPeace | auctioneer working more or less= |
| 19:32.44 | VIPeace | without tons of bugs? |
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| 19:35.48 | Bleeter | g'day folks |
| 19:36.03 | cron | hiya! |
| 19:36.13 | VIPeace | in what state is auctioneer? |
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| 19:36.21 | VIPeace | alpha? gamma? lol ^^ |
| 19:36.34 | Bleeter | read /topic |
| 19:36.43 | Bleeter | apart from that, i have no idea. i just woke up. |
| 19:36.55 | Bleeter | compiling a WoW 2.0.1 known bug list, tho |
| 19:37.11 | Bleeter | to my mind, it would appear that whatever they pushed to us as a patch, does NOT match the patchnotes |
| 19:37.36 | Bleeter | so many things meant to be fixed, and are just simply not. |
| 19:37.42 | VIPeace | ok alpha |
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| 19:45.30 | MentalPower | Alexandri: yup, visit www.norganna.org/localizer to help in the translations |
| 19:47.23 | Bleeter | gmorn MP |
| 19:47.39 | MentalPower | mornin' |
| 19:48.10 | Alexandri | Morning, thanks for the link |
| 19:49.47 | MentalPower | I should make a wiki page about translation tips, but not till after auctioneer is released |
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| 19:51.56 | Xion | hi to all |
| 19:52.05 | Xion | where i can download the new auctioneer? |
| 19:52.14 | Xion | for test it |
| 19:53.29 | Xion | it dont work with the new patch |
| 19:53.49 | TseTse | oh, then i donno |
| 19:53.50 | Xion | i need the auctioneer for 2.0 |
| 19:54.00 | Mike-N-Go | MP: How was the transfer to 2.0.1? |
| 19:54.19 | MentalPower | Xion: channel topic |
| 19:54.23 | MentalPower | Mike-N-Go: painful |
| 19:54.57 | Mike-N-Go | Oh? Is there any thing I can test for your benefit? |
| 19:55.03 | Xion | ah at december? |
| 19:55.09 | Xion | ok thx man |
| 19:55.12 | Xion | see ya |
| 19:55.15 | Xion | ^^ |
| 19:55.20 | MentalPower | no |
| 19:55.27 | Xion | 'Auctioneer 4.0 & Gatherer 3.0 release on Dec 19th |
| 19:55.33 | MentalPower | reading comprehencion FTW |
| 19:55.50 | Mike-N-Go | Ok, let me know if there is a beta/alpha I can test for you. |
| 19:55.53 | MentalPower | s/comprehencion/comprehension/ |
| 19:56.01 | MentalPower | Xion: what is there after that |
| 19:56.17 | MentalPower | starts with "Alpha versions:" |
| 19:56.33 | Chipokatis | You have to read it to comprehend |
| 19:56.43 | Xion | NOTE: These release versions are not yet WoW 2.0 compatable |
| 19:56.43 | Xion | See the bottom section for developer test versions. |
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| 19:56.58 | Xion | where is the bottom section? |
| 19:56.59 | Chipokatis | peeps try to comprehend without reading. I'm confused |
| 19:57.01 | MentalPower | Mike-N-Go: sorry, that no wasn't for you. You can test out the alpha versions |
| 19:57.07 | Mike-N-Go | OK |
| 19:57.30 | MentalPower | Xion: you do know what bottom means right? |
| 19:57.37 | Xion | nope |
| 19:57.51 | Mike-N-Go | Wow, it is Alpha :) |
| 19:57.52 | MentalPower | than you're hopeless, gday |
| 19:58.05 | Xion | sorry :| |
| 19:58.07 | MentalPower | s/than/then/ |
| 19:58.16 | Mike-N-Go | Is it able to use me old data? |
| 19:58.36 | MentalPower | Mike-N-Go: I'd suggest you woudn't (ie clear your SV file) |
| 19:58.45 | Chipokatis | MP I have been using alpha where do I report bugs |
| 19:58.54 | MentalPower | here |
| 19:59.22 | Mike-N-Go | OK, then, the prices will racily change anyways :P |
| 19:59.34 | Mike-N-Go | Everything will go up, practically. |
| 19:59.52 | Xion | oke i have find these |
| 19:59.58 | Xion | :) |
| 20:00.10 | Chipokatis | Don't want to repeat but after bidding on item, then looking at buyouts it will not let you buyout something you have bid on |
| 20:00.37 | cron | Bleeter: fyi blue posted in the general forums saying the patch was changed and the patch notes that was with the preload/patch is incorrect |
| 20:00.44 | MentalPower | Chipokatis: thats a new bug, I'll look into it |
| 20:00.51 | Bleeter | MP: norgs pointed out to me last night that enchantrix had another bug, that DE didn't work. he said he was going to try fixing it up. I'm gunna do a pull, make some coffee, and check stuff out ;) |
| 20:00.56 | MentalPower | cron: link? |
| 20:01.10 | MentalPower | Bleeter: I think he fixed it |
| 20:01.15 | Chipokatis | also the alt+left click won't bring up item in browse |
| 20:01.31 | bnovc | this is a test of the bot that 0a1b2c4d i just saw and looked cool |
| 20:01.31 | Bleeter | cron: the published patch notes (worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev) don't match the patch, either |
| 20:01.42 | bnovc | s/0[a-z0-9]+/test/ |
| 20:01.51 | Chipokatis | sort of freezes the search window |
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| 20:02.12 | Bleeter | lol, someone just bought a level 15 jewelcrafting recipe from a guildie for 200g |
| 20:02.42 | bnovc | is the bot voice/op only? |
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| 20:02.57 | Chipokatis | also had to change the toc of beancounter to 200000 |
| 20:03.12 | MentalPower | bnovc: nop, but it doesn't do regex |
| 20:03.21 | MentalPower | only simple substitution |
| 20:03.41 | MentalPower | Chipokatis: the TOC is old for a reason :) |
| 20:03.50 | MentalPower | we haven't gotten to beancounter yet |
| 20:04.02 | bev | i never got the pointof beancounter |
| 20:04.10 | bev | of course, i never read the docs, but thats besides the point |
| 20:04.58 | Chipokatis | lol what does it do anyway |
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| 20:05.41 | Quati | MP - I want to help - so what do you need? Testing 3.9 Auctioneer? |
| 20:05.46 | MentalPower | Chipokatis: it looks at your AH transactions and gives reports of that data |
| 20:06.13 | bnovc | MentalPower: :'( |
| 20:06.14 | Bleeter | mmmm coffeeeee |
| 20:06.21 | MentalPower | Quati: download the alpha, and report bugs here |
| 20:06.23 | bnovc | s/:'(/:)?/ |
| 20:06.45 | bnovc | MentalPower: tried to trick me by naming it purl and using s/// |
| 20:06.59 | MentalPower | its a blootbot |
| 20:07.04 | MentalPower | ~blootbot |
| 20:07.08 | purl | i guess blootbot is an IRC bot written in perl descended from infobot. Hosted on SF. Patches welcome, submit on SF or mailto:Tim@Rikers.org, or http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/,. I am a blootbot |
| 20:07.21 | Quati | k-will do as soon as the european servers are up again :-( |
| 20:07.22 | MentalPower | it used to use perl's regex, but it was abused and got diabled |
| 20:07.51 | bnovc | MentalPower: yea, i was just thinking about how many horrible regexs i could see if it could handle :P |
| 20:08.05 | Chipokatis | I was having errors searching auctions after a scan and it seemed to go away after i changed the toc. If that makes sense |
| 20:08.21 | cron | mentalpower/bleeter: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=52716960&pageNo=1&sid=1#8 |
| 20:08.29 | MentalPower | Chipokatis: what sort of errors? |
| 20:08.58 | MentalPower | cron: thanks |
| 20:09.13 | Bleeter | cron: check his follow up, where he says he really has no idea and will get back to everyone |
| 20:09.28 | Bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=52716960&sid=1&pageNo=5#85 |
| 20:09.38 | Bleeter | "I'm in the process of trying to find out what the situation was and what ended up occurring" |
| 20:10.14 | Chipokatis | Mp: Aucfilter.lua:120 attempt to index local 'itemInfo' ??? |
| 20:10.27 | Bleeter | which gets back to Drysc relying on the patch notes he was given |
| 20:10.36 | Bleeter | these are the same patch notes that are up as the official list |
| 20:11.01 | cron | What a mess... |
| 20:11.04 | Bleeter | there's a blue post on the same forum, of 2.0.1 patch notes, but that's a different list |
| 20:11.15 | Bleeter | missing a bunch of stuff from the 'official' list |
| 20:11.36 | Bleeter | so it's a patch that doesn't match any known patchnotes |
| 20:12.16 | MentalPower | lol |
| 20:12.33 | MentalPower | and he later confirmed that its going to stay that way till TBC (2.0.2) |
| 20:12.54 | Bleeter | but given the number of major probs, I'd be suprised |
| 20:13.05 | MentalPower | hmm... seems that I'm going to have to go, taking some CPR classes |
| 20:13.16 | MentalPower|AFK | later |
| 20:13.19 | samwise | cu later |
| 20:13.19 | Bleeter | no probs, i'll catchya later mp |
| 20:13.33 | Bleeter | i'll try stres testing stuff for now ;) |
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| 20:18.29 | jaws | a quick question for somebody in the know |
| 20:18.49 | jaws | anybody experience a hang while searching for items? |
| 20:19.06 | jaws | auctioneer scans properly, but is hanging when i look for anything. |
| 20:19.10 | Bleeter | yes, known bug. |
| 20:19.14 | jaws | is it....k |
| 20:19.19 | Bleeter | i assume you're using the indicated alpha version |
| 20:19.39 | Bleeter | i'm not working in that department at the moment, unsure of it's current status, but yesterday it wsa a known bug ;) |
| 20:19.45 | jaws | yup, sorry, using the alpha released today and 2.01 wow |
| 20:20.01 | jaws | just wondering....other than that, great job! |
| 20:20.12 | Bleeter | thx, we're getting there ;) |
| 20:20.14 | jaws | broker's working well as is the auctioneer |
| 20:20.34 | jaws | just wish I could search the items i've looked for while running broker ;) |
| 20:20.52 | jaws | anyhow, keep up the work |
| 20:20.58 | Bleeter | just don't go buying stacks of black pearls greater than 5 in size |
| 20:21.25 | Bleeter | you'll either not be able to get them out of the mail, or lose the remainder (ie, buy 18 only 5 show up) |
| 20:21.37 | jaws | egh, k, good to know. |
| 20:21.38 | Bleeter | (the stack size seems to have been messed up by blizz) |
| 20:21.57 | jaws | damn, i have to get an item off auction then (8 flasks of mojo) |
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| 20:22.09 | Bleeter | I have to get coffee ;) |
| 20:22.25 | jaws | thanks for the answers...i'll hold off on searching then.... |
| 20:22.28 | jaws | cheers |
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| 20:24.37 | Lethanialist | anyone here to talk to about testing auctioneer 4? i cant live without it for 2 weeks :P |
| 20:26.45 | samwise | not now, school and bedtime for the devs atm , wait a bit |
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| 20:28.38 | Bleeter | or cofefe, in an attetmpt at waking up |
| 20:28.51 | Lethanialist | meh one of my addons is messing my wow i think |
| 20:28.53 | Bleeter | although I'm not really a dev, just some crazy guy who hacks away until some bits start working again |
| 20:29.04 | Lethanialist | it keeps repeating the same sounds over/over again |
| 20:29.05 | Lethanialist | UI sounds |
| 20:29.15 | Lethanialist | like the sound it makes when you go over a button in the menu :( |
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| 20:51.00 | AnonUser4408 | hi all, i was wondering if i could get help with an auctioneer issue |
| 20:51.35 | samwise | you can, but not now (see userlist) |
| 20:51.45 | AnonUser4408 | everytime i try to put an item in the auction creation screen, i get the error: pickupcontaineritem(index, slot) |
| 20:52.01 | Bleeter | are you using the developer version? |
| 20:52.04 | AnonUser4408 | ahhh.... guess i wait for tonight |
| 20:52.07 | Bleeter | (as referred to in /topci) |
| 20:52.09 | AnonUser4408 | yep |
| 20:52.25 | AnonUser4408 | in fact, i removed all addons but the developer version and still got it |
| 20:52.52 | Bleeter | hmm, i haven't tried posting an auction yet.. currently testing an ingame mechanic for a couple of guildies |
| 20:53.10 | AnonUser4408 | i havent seen any others reporting this... |
| 20:53.13 | Bleeter | not that I'm an auctioneer dev, more just a mad temporary hacker. you'll probably need to wait for norgs or mp to get back |
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| 20:53.18 | Deadzero | yeah... norgs was working on alot of stuff 2day and he needed some ZZZZZZ's |
| 20:53.53 | AnonUser4408 | np - if i knew enough about the lua stuff id try to fix it myself... |
| 20:53.57 | Deadzero | this patch messed with everyone |
| 20:54.16 | samwise | and the servers are bugged as hell atm |
| 20:54.34 | Deadzero | on my server i can ride my mount in water |
| 20:54.42 | AnonUser4408 | a coupla adays and most of the bs should be gone |
| 20:54.48 | Lethanialist | i just wanted the dev version |
| 20:54.50 | Lethanialist | lol |
| 20:54.55 | Lethanialist | gotta wait for that too? |
| 20:55.03 | Deadzero | read topic |
| 20:55.18 | Deadzero | it is posted on the auctioneer site |
| 20:55.21 | Lethanialist | it says alpha is at that url |
| 20:55.23 | Lethanialist | but i didnt see alpha |
| 20:55.27 | Lethanialist | i saw 3.9 but not 4... |
| 20:57.11 | Deadzero | http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/AuctioneerComplete/?all=1 |
| 20:57.25 | AnonUser4408 | but the 3.9 version has todays date on it |
| 20:57.40 | Lethanialist | well i didnt notice that AnonUser4408 :P |
| 20:58.09 | AnonUser4408 | sweet - the new alpha version fixed my porblems... thanks guys |
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| 20:59.02 | Deadzero | version 4 will not be released until the 19th i belive |
| 20:59.55 | Deadzero | Patience, my young padawan |
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| 21:00.04 | Lethanialist | grr |
| 21:00.21 | Lethanialist | a coworker just called from the pc repair shop i work at and said "if youre not gonna come in the next day write a note on the service sheet with a full description of what you did" |
| 21:00.27 | Lethanialist | problem is i did... someone else musta taken them off :/ |
| 21:00.30 | Lethanialist | and now i get balmed |
| 21:01.14 | Bleeter | that was me... and tell your boss he owes me for international flight tickets, etc. etc. |
| 21:01.17 | Lethanialist | xD |
| 21:01.22 | Lethanialist | yeah but see |
| 21:01.24 | Mike-N-Go | MP: What all should I clear out of my WoW foler, WDB, WTF, Interface, etc?? |
| 21:01.25 | Lethanialist | when i get blamed for something |
| 21:01.31 | Lethanialist | the next day i work, -$1/hour pay |
| 21:01.38 | Lethanialist | and next time im working will be all day |
| 21:01.38 | Lethanialist | :/ |
| 21:01.53 | Bleeter | Mike-N-Go: move wtf, interface and wdb to somewhere 'safe' |
| 21:02.03 | Lethanialist | whys that? :X |
| 21:02.05 | Lethanialist | i didnt do that lol |
| 21:02.08 | Lethanialist | and my WoW runs just fine |
| 21:02.23 | Bleeter | when auctioneer is made final for 2.0, there'll be a method which will coinvert the 1.x data to 2.x, just there isn't one at the moment and thus it'll wipe your data |
| 21:02.33 | Lethanialist | doesnt bother me |
| 21:02.39 | Lethanialist | i wipe the data manually when i can remember where the data is saved |
| 21:02.40 | Lethanialist | :P |
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| 21:03.30 | Mike-N-Go | My client froze, what did you say? |
| 21:03.38 | Bleeter | no p[robs |
| 21:03.39 | Bleeter | when auctioneer is made final for 2.0, there'll be a method which will coinvert the 1.x data to 2.x, just there isn't one at the moment and thus it'll wipe your data |
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| 21:03.55 | Bleeter | (the final data structure for 2.x is in flux still) |
| 21:04.23 | Mike-N-Go | Bleeter, speaking to me? |
| 21:04.53 | Mike-N-Go | MP: What folder on the SVN do I use for the current wow? |
| 21:05.07 | Lethanialist | question guys |
| 21:05.14 | Lethanialist | whats the name of the book for first aid max above 150 |
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| 21:05.33 | Bleeter | Mike-N-Go: yeah |
| 21:05.33 | natael | Mein Kampf |
| 21:05.40 | cron | ha |
| 21:05.46 | Lethanialist | i have that pdf |
| 21:05.48 | Lethanialist | how do i import it to wow? |
| 21:05.51 | Lethanialist | i want first aid :( |
| 21:06.00 | Mike-N-Go | And do I report bugs here, or where-else? |
| 21:06.00 | Lethanialist | (and if you couldnt tell i was sarcastic, well... wow) |
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| 21:06.24 | Legorol | morning |
| 21:06.45 | Lethanialist | morning |
| 21:07.46 | Bleeter | Mike-N-Go: you can give it a shot reporting bugs here :) |
| 21:07.54 | Bleeter | hopefully someone's looking at the screen ;) |
| 21:08.04 | Bleeter | heya Legorol |
| 21:08.23 | Legorol | i finally found my way here :D |
| 21:08.44 | Deadzero | or you can post it here http://norganna.pastey.net/ |
| 21:08.55 | Deadzero | and paste the link here |
| 21:10.01 | Bleeter | Legorol: heh, yeah, took me a little while to notice it too... irssi, screen and auto-rejoin all channels ftl! |
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| 21:11.23 | cron | bleeter |
| 21:11.25 | cron | oops |
| 21:12.11 | cron | Bleeter: i deleted all the mods in my addons folder (except for the blizzard ones) and installed the alpha. ran the DB conversion and it kept the data but yeah i'd back everything up too |
| 21:12.42 | Mike-N-Go | MentalPower: What folder on the SVN do I use for the current wow? |
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| 21:15.06 | Cera | same as for beta |
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| 21:15.42 | Mike-N-Go | Well, night guys! |
| 21:15.54 | Laurt | if u beta auctioneer |
| 21:15.59 | Laurt | what could happen |
| 21:16.08 | Laurt | to your game |
| 21:16.11 | Bleeter | ok, DE and Sea don't like each other |
| 21:16.19 | Bleeter | (Blizz goes to disable Sea) |
| 21:16.44 | Bleeter | and a whole bunch of other 3rd party stuff, too |
| 21:17.00 | Laurt | now they made it when u wanna duel some 1 |
| 21:17.09 | Laurt | they disable all mods |
| 21:17.20 | Lethanialist | wtf... |
| 21:17.23 | Lethanialist | auctioneer just rebooted me on wow |
| 21:17.27 | Lethanialist | because the blizz ui blocked a function xD |
| 21:17.35 | Laurt | which ver |
| 21:17.38 | Laurt | u using |
| 21:17.39 | Lethanialist | alpha |
| 21:17.44 | Laurt | is it safe |
| 21:17.48 | Laurt | to use it? |
| 21:17.50 | Lethanialist | ya |
| 21:17.56 | Lethanialist | unless youre protective of your saved vars folder |
| 21:17.58 | Lethanialist | and interface folder |
| 21:18.00 | Lethanialist | all that good stuff |
| 21:18.07 | Lethanialist | i myself dont mind uninstalling and reinstalling wow multiple times |
| 21:18.29 | Bleeter | Legorol: what did it disable? |
| 21:18.39 | Lethanialist | idk |
| 21:18.39 | Bleeter | s/legorol/lethanialist/ |
| 21:18.43 | Lethanialist | it said uhh |
| 21:18.50 | Lethanialist | auctioneer has been blocked by a function only available to the blizzard ui |
| 21:18.52 | Lethanialist | and then it had a disable button |
| 21:18.56 | Lethanialist | and that was only one i could click |
| 21:19.00 | Lethanialist | and it reloaded wow |
| 21:19.07 | Lethanialist | and i dont mean reload ui |
| 21:19.10 | Lethanialist | it closed and restarted wow lol |
| 21:19.19 | Laurt | i really need Auctioneer |
| 21:19.41 | Laurt | it sucks w/o it |
| 21:19.41 | Laurt | and i cannot find any mods that work for ah |
| 21:19.41 | Laurt | for now |
| 21:19.43 | Lethanialist | wow |
| 21:19.45 | Lethanialist | you gotta be kidding me |
| 21:19.48 | Lethanialist | all the chants on my armor are gone |
| 21:19.50 | Lethanialist | and i dont have mats :( |
| 21:19.51 | Bleeter | heh, just put out a call on my trade chan for greens for DE testing, integration for other mods (not ours)... someone's bank's throwing stuff at me |
| 21:20.29 | Bleeter | anyways, they've said they love us all, and thank us greatly |
| 21:21.02 | Legorol | anyone who is in the know: what's the difference between /trunk and /branch/3.9 |
| 21:21.07 | Laurt | will 4.0 be more accurate |
| 21:21.16 | Laurt | than 3.8? |
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| 21:30.12 | Bleeter | confirming: DE'ing doesn't seem to work with Cosmos Alpha installed (I only installed it 'coz I know fellow guildies use it, and would come to me if/when there were probs) |
| 21:31.11 | Lethanialist | cosmos or ct? ;o |
| 21:31.23 | Lethanialist | i personally use CT but what does everyone else use |
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| 21:34.37 | Cera | the thottbot addon blocks DE for sure |
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| 21:35.48 | Bleeter | Sea collapsed first, taking out other bits and pieces along the way |
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| 21:36.17 | Lethanialist | whats a good amt of gold to have at lv26? |
| 21:36.30 | Knaledge | anyone here able to help me with 3.9.0.1122? |
| 21:36.44 | Cera | yeah... I don't care for most of cosmos so I just have a few of the minor things installed |
| 21:36.45 | Lethanialist | like, to ensure i can get any skills i need maybe some armor and repair items if needed |
| 21:37.07 | Lethanialist | my guildies brag "ive got 500g" but i only have around 100 :( |
| 21:37.39 | Knaledge | Item link ids are showing in 3.9.0.1122 by default and there is seemingly no way to turn them off |
| 21:37.49 | Knaledge | not to mention a bunch of auccommand.lua errors |
| 21:37.58 | Bleeter | i made the mistake of telling my guild I do a bit of addon coding, so consequently i'm the guild 'guru' on all things mod-wise |
| 21:38.01 | Knaledge | and the options/config text now is only partial |
| 21:38.12 | Bleeter | so inevitably they ask me every question about every mod, and expect me to know the answer |
| 21:38.25 | Knaledge | So if any devs are on that care about auctioneer functionality, please speak with me for more info |
| 21:39.26 | Bleeter | I'm a dev, I'm on, I care about the functionality, but don't deal in the Auctioneer code. |
| 21:39.42 | Knaledge | well askprice is broken, itemizer is incompatible |
| 21:39.49 | Lethanialist | what is itemizer |
| 21:39.51 | Lethanialist | and what is askprice ;P |
| 21:39.56 | Lethanialist | ive never used the package until now, i always got auctioneer alone |
| 21:40.01 | Knaledge | along with informant throwing errors |
| 21:40.08 | Bleeter | you're using the developer version, Knaledge ? |
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| 21:40.23 | Knaledge | yes, the only one compatible with 2.0.1 |
| 21:40.32 | Knaledge | obviously, I expect problems, so to speak |
| 21:40.36 | Bleeter | and have downloaded the most recent of the same? (I can't recall, nor quickly see, what's on the website) |
| 21:40.44 | Knaledge | but I noticed you guys are still updating the current branch so I figured to let you know |
| 21:40.49 | Knaledge | 3.9.0.1122 |
| 21:40.55 | Bleeter | i think itemlink got moved to informant |
| 21:40.56 | Knaledge | thats the latest as per the site |
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| 21:41.14 | Knaledge | beencounter and itemizer are both incomaptible. |
| 21:41.15 | Bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.30 | Bleeter | beancounter hasn't been touched for updating yet |
| 21:41.34 | Bleeter | still working on the others |
| 21:41.42 | cron | i gotta say auctioneer is working well for me.. posted a load of junk/did an update.. functional for me.. no errors so far with 3.9.0.1122 |
| 21:41.44 | Knaledge | they have to be disabled;; @ Bleeter: auctioneer show-link is borked then or depricated |
| 21:41.51 | ScratchMonkey | anyone else seeing error 131 with corrupt common.mpq? From the Blizzard forums it's affecting a lot of people |
| 21:41.51 | fox007 | hello |
| 21:41.56 | Knaledge | @Cron: I never said auctioneer is broken |
| 21:42.04 | Lethanialist | auctioneer disabled itself for me |
| 21:42.04 | Knaledge | I just said major parts of it are not on |
| 21:42.04 | Lethanialist | ;P |
| 21:42.13 | Knaledge | like beancounter and itemizer |
| 21:42.19 | Bleeter | broken, deprecated and soon to be thrown out |
| 21:42.21 | cron | Knaledge: neither did i just a general comment ;) |
| 21:42.28 | fox007 | if i want to do some testing on the new auctionneer i should use the 3.9.0.1122 right with the new version ? |
| 21:42.32 | Bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.37 | Knaledge | that doesnt do it |
| 21:42.47 | Knaledge | it just says "now showing link informaton" etc. |
| 21:42.55 | Knaledge | doing it again states that it IS showing info |
| 21:43.03 | Knaledge | neither change the tooltip, however. |
| 21:43.36 | Knaledge | also gatherer is a bit muffed up atm |
| 21:43.41 | MentalPower|Busy | ok, my class was cancelled, but I have some other stuff to do so I'll be out of touch |
| 21:43.47 | MentalPower|Busy | Knaledge: use /inf show-link |
| 21:43.59 | Bleeter | hmm, so it would seem. the text printed to general is correct, but the tooltip doesn't change |
| 21:43.59 | MentalPower|Busy | also try /inf show-ilevel |
| 21:44.01 | Knaledge | lots of command.lua errors when you try doing anything with the options gui or even displaying it |
| 21:44.17 | Knaledge | what is ilevel, MP? |
| 21:44.20 | MentalPower|Busy | Knaledge: known issue |
| 21:44.23 | MentalPower|Busy | item level |
| 21:44.30 | Knaledge | is red a whisper to me? |
| 21:44.48 | Knaledge | I can't tell on this jiRC |
| 21:44.54 | MentalPower|Busy | Knaledge: this? |
| 21:44.57 | MentalPower|Busy | no |
| 21:44.58 | Knaledge | yeah |
| 21:44.59 | Knaledge | oh ok |
| 21:45.12 | Knaledge | alright and beancounter and itemizer are also incomaptible |
| 21:45.12 | MentalPower|Busy | its just a targeted public message |
| 21:45.25 | MentalPower|Busy | beancounter hasn't been touched and itemizer is on ice |
| 21:45.30 | Knaledge | ok word :) |
| 21:45.46 | Knaledge | MP - I now I mentioned this earlier but damn... is there a rolling changelog? |
| 21:45.53 | Knaledge | the trac link you gave me personally no longer works |
| 21:46.07 | Knaledge | http://auctioneeraddon.com/trac/log |
| 21:46.10 | MentalPower|Busy | Knaledge: /scm/ |
| 21:46.15 | MentalPower|Busy | instead og /trac/ |
| 21:46.19 | MentalPower|Busy | s/og/of/ |
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| 21:46.55 | Knaledge | ah nice :) Now I can keep up with all these builds and know whats what |
| 21:47.08 | AnonUser1600 | I want to test it out |
| 21:47.12 | Knaledge | I recal you saying the 3.9 branch would resolve the asprce duplicate posting? |
| 21:47.17 | Knaledge | askprice |
| 21:47.42 | Knaledge | I could be mistaken |
| 21:48.07 | *** topic/#norganna by MentalPower|Busy -> Auctioneer 4.0 & Gatherer 3.0 release on Dec 19th | Alpha versions: http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl & http://gathereraddon.com/dl | AnonUsers, please change your name in the lower-right corner of the Java applet | Post bugs here, Don't PM | http://norganna.pastey.net/ | Patience, my young padawan. |
| 21:48.19 | MentalPower|Busy | Knaledge: nop, still an issue |
| 21:48.45 | Bleeter | MP: Rclick with cosmos doesn't fault out |
| 21:48.56 | MentalPower|Busy | cool |
| 21:49.00 | MentalPower|Busy | I thought as much |
| 21:49.02 | Bleeter | it would seem their PopupPower, which is a dependency for their Khaos, is causing the prob |
| 21:49.20 | MentalPower|Busy | Khaos requires popuppower now? |
| 21:49.22 | MentalPower|Busy | eek! |
| 21:49.26 | Knaledge | it does? |
| 21:49.28 | Knaledge | thats lame |
| 21:49.49 | MentalPower|Busy | it is... |
| 21:49.50 | cron | Bleeter/MentalPower: wand us to log tickets there or just say them here? |
| 21:49.51 | Knaledge | I gotta say the cosmos gang did a sort of sloppy job at preparing for the patch |
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| 21:50.21 | Bleeter | i'd rather track down the cause myself, thanks... don't want to create extra work for other mod devs, 'coz then they'd come here doing the same |
| 21:50.25 | Knaledge | on the other hand, they did do well at throwing it together quickly enough to get most of it up and running. |
| 21:50.34 | Bleeter | ie, much better for me to say 'your blah.lua line 239 is causing probs because...' |
| 21:50.34 | MentalPower|Busy | cron: here, if you don't get a response then do trac |
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| 21:51.40 | AnonUser9702 | Is there an auctioneer addon for 2.0.1 yet? |
| 21:52.14 | ScratchMonkey | AnonUser9702: yes, see irc topic |
| 21:52.43 | *** topic/#norganna by MentalPower|Busy -> Auctioneer 4.0 & Gatherer 3.0 release on Dec 19th | Alpha versions: http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl & http://gathereraddon.com/dl | Post bugs here, Don't PM | http://norganna.pastey.net/ | AnonUsers, please change your name in the lower-right corner of the Java applet | Patience, my young padawan. |
| 21:53.27 | ScratchMonkey | I've been using an addon called PriceEach, has that functionality ever been adopted into Auctioneer? |
| 21:53.38 | ScratchMonkey | It reports the per-item price alongside the item name in the auction list |
| 21:53.44 | MentalPower|Busy | not yet |
| 21:53.46 | ScratchMonkey | very handy for spotting deals |
| 21:53.56 | cron | error: /auctioneer generates an error auccommand.lua line 1542 "bad argument #2 to format (string expected, got nil)" |
| 21:54.25 | MentalPower|Busy | cron: known, fixed in my version |
| 21:54.35 | Bleeter | ryup, confirming from the addon list selector, khaos requires popuppower |
| 21:54.47 | Bleeter | le sigh |
| 21:54.59 | Knaledge | what turns off the name of the item in the norg addons for items? |
| 21:55.05 | Knaledge | is it an informant comm |
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| 21:55.13 | Knaledge | like /inf show-icon |
| 21:56.07 | MentalPower|Busy | Knaledge: its part of informant, but theres no command, same as there was no command to turn it off when it was part of acutioneer |
| 21:56.26 | Knaledge | ah ok |
| 21:56.57 | cron | error: using search for competition "Userinterface\auctionframesearch.lua line 968 attempt to index global 'filterArgs' (a nil value)" |
| 21:59.03 | MentalPower|Busy | cron: found, and just fixed |
| 21:59.28 | Knaledge | also the /inf embed bug is still present |
| 21:59.38 | MentalPower|Busy | embed bug? |
| 21:59.45 | Knaledge | whenever you use the embed portion of the informant, and someone posts a link in chat |
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| 22:00.04 | Knaledge | if you have a tooltop open, it duplicates everything informant inserted into the tooltip |
| 22:00.37 | MentalPower|Busy | thats an EnhTT bug, post a trac ticket for it |
| 22:00.41 | MentalPower|Busy | please |
| 22:00.50 | Bleeter | first, search for duplicates |
| 22:01.03 | Bleeter | was *just* having a convo with a lvl 1 bank on my realm |
| 22:01.12 | Bleeter | they were asking me where they should go report that bug lol |
| 22:02.17 | Bleeter | cosmos guys gunna grab enchantrix SVN and take a peek |
| 22:02.30 | Bleeter | so, i'll go brew us up some coffee, mp ;) |
| 22:04.06 | Knaledge | thats been an issue for so long though I'm surprised only just now someone is reporting it |
| 22:04.20 | Knaledge | I honestly always just let it pass my mind as it was so common |
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| 22:04.51 | Knaledge | it also happens without embed enabled if you have a shift-clicked tooltip open |
| 22:04.59 | Knaledge | even with/without embed enabled. |
| 22:05.37 | Knaledge | so if you shift-click on a tooltip and its hovering in the center of your UI over your playing field, if you link an item yourself it will duplicate all the auctioneer, enchantrix, etc. info |
| 22:05.46 | MentalPower|Busy | in all honesty, embed is such a hack |
| 22:05.56 | Knaledge | thats without embed enabled however. |
| 22:06.07 | Knaledge | I don't know what it would do with it enabled. |
| 22:06.12 | Knaledge | I'd imagine much worse |
| 22:06.32 | Knaledge | (forget the shift portion of the clicking above) |
| 22:06.42 | sysrage | damnit. AIOI isn't fixed yet |
| 22:06.42 | Knaledge | just when you click on an item link and its displayed |
| 22:07.16 | Knaledge | and never mind about without embed enabled |
| 22:07.31 | Knaledge | apparently that was fixed as I never played with embed eabled but it used to happen |
| 22:07.39 | Knaledge | now it apparently only happens WITH embed enabled. |
| 22:07.47 | Knaledge | so yes, MP, embed is hackish I'd imagine hehe |
| 22:10.51 | Bleeter | MP: it's OK, DE'ing doesn't work at all with Cosmos ;) |
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| 22:11.03 | Bleeter | ie, I just disabled all our stuff, it still faults out |
| 22:11.05 | cron | just a general thing the scan didn't update my database after the "conversion" so it looks like wiping is the only way to update the database |
| 22:12.33 | Zyrex | yes, cosmos poop itself when I tried to disenchant |
| 22:13.06 | sysrage | zyrex: can't eat or drink from the damn inventory either.. makes me sad |
| 22:13.09 | cron | general error: if you tab away during a scan and come back to the browse window your update is locked in a search if you back away from an auctioneer it dosen't clear the update its still "searching for items..." |
| 22:13.39 | MentalPower|Busy | Bleeter: tell them to look for PickupContainerItem hooks |
| 22:14.17 | Knaledge | @cron: thats a long standing issue since 3.8 iirc |
| 22:14.26 | Knaledge | it doesnt even have to be tabbing away |
| 22:14.31 | cron | Knaledge: cool |
| 22:14.38 | Knaledge | it can be if you accidentally searched for an item during a scan |
| 22:14.43 | Knaledge | perpetual scanning |
| 22:14.47 | cron | it use to clear tho im sure if you backed away from the auctioneer |
| 22:15.00 | Knaledge | nah not since 3.8.0.x iirc |
| 22:15.06 | cron | kk |
| 22:15.17 | Knaledge | I would hope MP et all know about it |
| 22:15.43 | MentalPower|Busy | actually I didn't |
| 22:15.50 | Bleeter | cailenn of THorium Brotherhood apologises for the double-posted bug ticket |
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| 22:16.00 | MentalPower|Busy | trac ticket that one as well please (after checking for dups) |
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| 22:17.15 | Bleeter | MP: do I have 'login' access to the website? If so, is it my SVN username? Can't seem to get it happening :/ |
| 22:17.53 | MentalPower|Busy | to wich website |
| 22:18.05 | MentalPower|Busy | we still haven't completely integrated the logins :) |
| 22:18.08 | Bleeter | sorry, to http://auctioneeraddon.com/scm |
| 22:18.15 | Bleeter | ah |
| 22:18.34 | MentalPower|Busy | that one uses its own credential iirc, not linked to anything |
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| 22:22.27 | Bleeter | ah, rightio. no great shakes, was going to go through and remove duplicates ;) |
| 22:23.14 | cron | Knaledge: interesting the search button is grayed out. The only way to trigger the error now is to search for an item and walk away/tab off the browse panel it will cause the "searching for items..." error |
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| 22:29.29 | Bleeter | heh, cosmos team just noticed the cascasing disabling of all mods after trying to DE |
| 22:29.44 | Bleeter | I'm *so* glad it's not our prob :) |
| 22:31.29 | sysrage | i'd give my left nut if they fixed all in one inventory |
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| 22:31.45 | GomiSensei | there was a working aioi update that did bank too |
| 22:31.51 | GomiSensei | but bagnon pwns it |
| 22:32.15 | GomiSensei | i'm trying to get a working ace library now |
| 22:34.08 | Gabber | is there a new version of bagnon ? |
| 22:34.14 | Knaledge | no but onebag works |
| 22:34.23 | GomiSensei | yes |
| 22:34.31 | Knaledge | google that it works pretty well even though I have AIOI type mods. |
| 22:34.37 | GomiSensei | vbagnon and the old bagnon have working versions |
| 22:34.37 | Knaledge | too much cltter |
| 22:35.01 | Knaledge | @cron: are you going to submit a trac for that? |
| 22:35.08 | cron | Knaledge: done |
| 22:35.11 | Knaledge | word |
| 22:37.28 | Colawley | vbagnon actually isn't that bad of a replacement for aioi once you set it up right |
| 22:37.46 | Knaledge | yeah Its not that I disagree |
| 22:37.54 | Knaledge | its that I just dislike all those "super bag" addons |
| 22:38.05 | Knaledge | honestly, I wish a few addons were still functioning |
| 22:38.09 | Knaledge | BankItems is one |
| 22:38.09 | Gabber | i didnt find a link to bagnon (cursegaming is down) but here's a link to onegab : http://www.wowace.com/files/OneBag/ |
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| 22:38.15 | Knaledge | DepositBox another |
| 22:38.20 | Knaledge | and BarOptions |
| 22:38.33 | Gabber | i miss my discord action bars |
| 22:38.35 | sysrage | cryolysis! |
| 22:38.51 | GPLGeek | so does anyone have problems with blizzard's default bags |
| 22:38.54 | Knaledge | IS there a bank items thing nowadays? |
| 22:39.05 | Colawley | I actually use very few addons so it wasn't that difficult to find updates for them. Only ones I'm waiting on now are Auctioneer and Gather |
| 22:39.08 | Knaledge | @GPL: not I |
| 22:39.30 | GPLGeek | well my bags are all messed up and the bags are split from the background, etc, i pick up the wrong items |
| 22:39.31 | Gabber | i have the alpha from auctioneer, works fine |
| 22:39.32 | Knaledge | everything is working for me except outfitter with Titan, Bankitems, BarOptions, and DepositBox |
| 22:39.35 | GPLGeek | they are not where they say they are |
| 22:39.39 | GPLGeek | thats with no addons |
| 22:39.55 | Knaledge | then just delete your layoutcache.txt file |
| 22:39.56 | GPLGeek | I need a working allinone inventory to fix this |
| 22:40.02 | GPLGeek | tried... |
| 22:40.03 | GPLGeek | doesnt work |
| 22:40.16 | Knaledge | I'm sure its a file level issue |
| 22:40.20 | GomiSensei | gpl: get bagnon |
| 22:41.03 | Colawley | so the alpha is working fairly well? |
| 22:41.54 | GPLGeek | where can i download it? all the addon sites are own |
| 22:41.56 | Bleeter | for various definitions of the words 'working' and 'fairly', sure |
| 22:41.56 | GPLGeek | down |
| 22:42.32 | GomiSensei | gpl: worldofwar works, it's just really slow |
| 22:42.37 | Bleeter | most of them aren't down, just overloaded again, as the EU just got the patch and now all the EU players are overloading the servers ;) |
| 22:43.15 | cron | Bleeter: the scan not updating old db isn't an issue during alpha correct? |
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| 22:44.18 | Bleeter | cron: can't say for sure, but I suspect ythat is correct |
| 22:45.00 | cron | kk i'll just backup the old variable and start a new one till release :) |
| 22:45.16 | Colawley | yeah I have no problems starting my db over again. |
| 22:46.33 | SDraconis | so the SV does get updated on subsequent alpha scans, but only after the pre-2.0 SV is wiped? |
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| 22:48.02 | Colawley | so anyone used the alpha of gatherer yet? |
| 22:48.14 | Cera | of course |
| 22:48.18 | Bleeter | if you don't backup pre-2.0.1 data, your existing data will be wiped |
| 22:49.12 | Bleeter | when final is released, it'll import the pre 2.x data, maybe the 2.x alpha data too, but I doubt it'll combine both data sets |
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| 22:51.15 | Colawley | I'll make sure to backup my data then before I install it |
| 22:51.21 | Mike-N-Go | Why are there so many people in this room today, lol. |
| 22:51.28 | cron | Bleeter: this is silly of me to ask but the WTF/Account/<USERNAME>/SavedVariables/Auctioneer.lua is the main/only database right? |
| 22:51.42 | Knaledge | well it was nice to chat with all of you one on one finally! I really enjoy your mods and hope to be in touch more. Off to dinner! Take care |
| 22:51.54 | cron | Knaledge: later! |
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| 22:53.13 | Texasbelliott | So, what can one do to help with Auctioneer 4.0 testing? |
| 22:53.13 | Colawley | I must be off also. Thanks for the help. |
| 22:53.15 | Bleeter | cron: yes |
| 22:53.16 | Bobby | Well a good bug for the alpha. You get a "attempt to index local 'zone data' (a nil value)" error |
| 22:53.28 | Bleeter | Bobby: known |
| 22:53.51 | Mike-N-Go | http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/AuctioneerComplete/ |
| 22:53.58 | Mike-N-Go | Download the Alpha |
| 22:54.24 | Texasbelliott | Cool, I'll check it out. |
| 22:54.46 | Mike-N-Go | Be carful to backup your data :) |
| 22:55.09 | Zyrex | mine didnt get hosed |
| 22:55.15 | Zyrex | Lucky I guess |
| 22:55.21 | Bleeter | yeah, best practice before any patches is to zip up your wtf folder, and store safely outside of the WoW directory tree |
| 22:55.50 | Texasbelliott | Will do Mike, thx. Is the place to report bugs and unusal occurances? |
| 22:55.57 | Mike-N-Go | It may, the DB is going to change drastically in the next 2 weeks. |
| 22:56.03 | Mike-N-Go | Yup |
| 22:56.15 | Mike-N-Go | Direct bugs to MentalPower |
| 22:56.22 | Bleeter | Texasbelliott: yup, altohugh if we can't help, a submission to our tracker is appreciated (trac link @ auctioneeraddon.com) |
| 22:56.45 | Bobby | anyway to get the error off my screen while I play this ab? |
| 22:56.47 | Bleeter | where 'can't help' matches cases of 'dunno about that' and 'no one about to reply/act on it' |
| 22:56.55 | Mike-N-Go | http://auctioneeraddon.com/scm/ |
| 22:57.00 | Mike-N-Go | That is track |
| 22:57.12 | cron | Bleeter: deleting the auctioneer.lua and rescanning returned results of "Total auctions scanned: 24504 New auctions scanned: 0 Defuction audctions removed: 0 Previously scanned: 0", new auctions zero worried me and no results on definatly known items. I'm confirming its reproducable atm |
| 22:57.28 | Mike-N-Go | Well, you type it out, and cut and paste :P |
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| 22:58.17 | Bleeter | cron: sorry, I lost your original report in the scrollback. what are you reporting? |
| 22:58.18 | Texasbelliott | Thanks again y'all. I have some testing to do! |
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| 22:59.00 | cron | Bleeter: problem in the database. I removed my old pre 2.0 db and started to poplate a new one |
| 22:59.06 | Mike-N-Go | If MP is not aviable, chose someone with operator or helper states |
| 22:59.52 | Bleeter | cron: ok, going to try to reproduce here... i've removed my SV file, launching wow |
| 23:00.37 | cron | Bleeter: the auctioneer.lua is filling with data and growing but it dosen't return any results right away going to relaunch wow after this scan |
| 23:02.22 | Bleeter | scan's going to take 10 mins, I'm still not quite sure what you're reporting. but I guess I'll figure it out. |
| 23:02.32 | Bleeter | afk during scan |
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| 23:06.37 | MentalPower|Busy | I need a break, later guys |
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| 23:09.33 | cron | Bleeter: basicly without the SV file i preformed a new scan. The scan said it found 0 new auctions, and no items have any auction info. If you attempt to search for anything after the scan it locks up and you have to camp or /reload ui. Once thats done the data appears |
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| 23:17.04 | AnonUser0082 | can someone help me? im lokking for a mail mod, that wotks with the new patch. anyone know one? |
| 23:17.04 | bleeter|mmcoffee | cron: searching is a known bug |
| 23:17.20 | zen991 | Ct_mailmod |
| 23:17.24 | zen991 | has been updated |
| 23:17.39 | Bleeter | insofar as the scan, 'total auctions scanned: 5569, new auctions: 5569, defunc auctions removed: 0 previously scanned: 0' |
| 23:17.47 | zen991 | http://www.ctmod.net/ |
| 23:18.05 | AnonUser0082 | ok thank u wery much .-) |
| 23:18.18 | Bleeter | cron: my ietms have auctioneer data in the tooltip |
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| 23:18.46 | cron | Bleeter: my inital scan reported no new. And no ah stats were on item tooltip had to /reload ui to fix it |
| 23:19.03 | Bleeter | weird |
| 23:19.27 | cron | Bleeter: did a second scan after the reload to test again and it has no new again |
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| 23:20.55 | zen991 | cron: Try scanning just a single category of items |
| 23:21.32 | cron | search locked again and requires a /reload ui seems like my scan isn't finishing correctly or releasing. This is with 1122 |
| 23:21.48 | cron | zen: sec |
| 23:22.50 | cron | worked perfect just scanning container |
| 23:23.11 | Bleeter | listen, searching is a known bug. stop trying to do it. |
| 23:23.28 | zen991 | Someone on the forums is having the same issues. Said that scanning single groups was working but a full scan was not |
| 23:23.28 | Bleeter | you're probably introducing more problems into the attempted diagnosis of your original error. |
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| 23:25.47 | cron | Bleeter: Ok, was just assuming the scan/search was treated different |
| 23:26.26 | Bleeter | when reporting one bug, one should do one's utmost to not hit other knwon bugs along the way |
| 23:26.55 | Bleeter | either way, I still can't repoduce the lack of items in the scan DB |
| 23:28.08 | rpz | Where can I get a working Titan/Fubar? |
| 23:29.36 | cron | Bleeter: It has to be the searching bug, im going to wipe my sv and just do an inital scan of the AH on one filter, i bet it returns the data then. |
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| 23:30.26 | zen991 | rpz: http://www.curse-gaming.com/ has an updated Titan - of course hitting the site while it is up seems to be a challange |
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| 23:32.23 | Bleeter | be aware that titan for 2.0.1 seems a dirty hack to get it working again, rather than a proper re-write |
| 23:32.39 | zen991 | good to know thanks |
| 23:32.43 | cron | Bleeter: it did indeed return data then, sorry man about reporting it twice :) |
| 23:32.44 | Malivil | They prolly hacked it to make it work, and will re-write it later |
| 23:32.53 | Bleeter | Malivil: hopefully |
| 23:32.59 | Malivil | That's what i would do |
| 23:33.06 | Malivil | Just so you can at least use it |
| 23:33.17 | Bleeter | cron: good to hear. it was getting as frustrating reading an unreproducable as no doubt you were frustrated trying to report it ;) |
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| 23:33.34 | cron | Bleeter: good times, good times :) |
| 23:34.09 | Bleeter | Malivil: but to be fair, they've had quite a few weeks to get it going again. maybe though they've been hit by the RL/exam problems too |
| 23:34.38 | Malivil | Yea |
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| 23:41.43 | zen991 | later. |
| 23:42.00 | illn3ss | Hey! any knows in what language those addons are coded? |
| 23:42.07 | Malivil | Lua |
| 23:42.22 | illn3ss | that is a file extension |
| 23:42.22 | Malivil | and .Xml |
| 23:42.32 | Malivil | Lua is programming language |
| 23:42.40 | Malivil | http://www.lua.org/ |
| 23:42.49 | illn3ss | must have a bigger name |
| 23:42.51 | Malivil | and xml is used to make the frames. |
| 23:42.53 | illn3ss | yeah ill go check |
| 23:42.54 | Malivil | No... Lua is the who thing |
| 23:43.01 | Malivil | s/who/whole |
| 23:43.10 | Malivil | <.< >.> |
| 23:43.19 | Malivil | no purl, oi |
| 23:44.33 | illn3ss | geez... i code... but nerver heard of this. |
| 23:44.39 | illn3ss | i guess i got homeworks |
| 23:45.14 | illn3ss | what is it use for expect wow? |
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| 23:46.00 | Malivil | Except wow? |
| 23:46.13 | Malivil | I don't know |
| 23:46.30 | SDraconis | I think some other games use lua somewhere |
| 23:46.46 | illn3ss | is it like c? |
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| 23:46.50 | illn3ss | or c++ |
| 23:48.07 | Malivil | No... |
| 23:48.11 | Malivil | It's more like Java |
| 23:48.16 | illn3ss | nice... i do java |
| 23:48.18 | SDraconis | but it's written IN c |
| 23:48.22 | Malivil | I'm learning it |
| 23:48.27 | Malivil | I wrote an addon a while back |
| 23:48.30 | Malivil | I don't think it works anymore |
| 23:48.45 | illn3ss | ive been working in java for 2 years now in java |
| 23:48.55 | illn3ss | oups |
| 23:49.19 | illn3ss | so there is now pointers right? |
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| 23:50.18 | Malivil | I dunno |
| 23:50.18 | SDraconis | I think you should have a look at the Lua tutorial if you really want to learn: http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaTutorial |
| 23:50.36 | illn3ss | im currently reading the intor :P |
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| 23:50.37 | illn3ss | intro* |
| 23:50.37 | graymouser | java has implicit child-parent object orientation, lua has none of that... Lua is very much like C without ANY memory handling.. |
| 23:51.02 | tnunamak | ok so just to check.. I can't use auctioneer until the 19th? |
| 23:51.21 | Malivil | It won't be released until then is what they are saying |
| 23:51.24 | Malivil | There is an alpha |
| 23:51.28 | Malivil | But its buggy |
| 23:51.37 | tnunamak | hmm ok thanks |
| 23:51.41 | tnunamak | alpha not worth trying? |
| 23:52.41 | sysrage | anybody use cosmos and/or partyquests and know of a fix to get it to stop spamming the quests in chat log? sorry for asking here, but their website is overloaded like everybody elses and i dunno where else to ask |
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| 23:53.25 | Malivil | tnunamak: It'll be frustrated |
| 23:53.29 | Malivil | *frustrating |
| 23:54.17 | tnunamak | ok |
| 23:54.25 | tnunamak | thanks.. I think I'll wait a bit |
| 23:54.33 | Malivil | Yea, that's what i'm doing |
| 23:55.05 | Bleeter | there's also the wowwiki.com pages about coding mods |
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